@@Burgerbeast101 it was pretty clear that he has emotional regulation issues and for her it was likely a game of constantly walking on eggshells around him. That can make you exhausted and you begin to resent your partner. Glad he's in therapy though. I really hope it helps him!
@@dreamsniceridk what this person specifically means but my interpretation is that ryker went thru the post breakup rebound process to cope with losing her, meaning that even though they broke up really recently and he had his rebound, he still never took time to actually think and emotionally process the emotions of his breakup
Some men aren’t good with being confrontational. And she doesn’t seem very inviting to his feelings. But yeah, he still shouldn’t hold it all inside til it seeps out in passive aggressive ways. But again, hard not to when the girl won’t even let you talk to your therapist without turning it into a fight.
@@KingstonHawke it’s crazy you saw it that way because i saw it as him being super manipulative. like it seemed like miranda was trying not to give back in/stay strong while he was like trying to manipulate the situations into her being the “bad guy” (or at least that he wasn’t in the wrong). idk it’s hard to know what went on between them since we aren’t them but funny that it can be perceived differently from the same content.
@Aila Verco You having ''baggage'' does not mean you are not passive agressive and a potentially shit person. Shocker, most serial killers also have a lot of ''baggage'', doesn't mean they aren't evil murderers now does it? He goes from saying that she should just move on from hearing he slept with someone else within days of them (not even really) having broken up, and acts pretty rude about it even though she is clarifying that she agrees it was miscommunication. Then suddenly switches and cries saying he wanted to marry her and misses her EVERYDAY, yet a few minutes ago was being passive agressive towards her because she wasnt happy hearing that he essentially cheated on her as they were not properly broken up. He even ADMITS that he does in fact take out his anger ''around her'', which is literal abuse. Those are not normal descriptive words, and clearly imply he would break, punch or do stuff around her that is not normal cause of his anger issues. Then has the audacity to say that SHE should ''listen more'' in her next relationship, when throughout the video she is the one constantly walking around eggshells trying to make sure not a single word is triggering him into getting rude and agressive towards her. Plus his definition of ''listening'' was to listen when someone is begging you to do something that they really want, aka be OBEDIENT. Very different from listening. It was so obvious even at the end! Her CLEARLY being unsure about kissing him, and him clearly looking unhappy, pressuring her. This isn't ''emotional", this is emotional irregulation. EVERYONE has emotions, we are humans, emotions come with it no matter your gender. It doesn't mean that having emotional irregulations and VERY clearly needing mental help justifies your deeds. Your emotions are still yours, and yours actions are yours. If you have baggage in your life, go fix it, not ruin someone else's life with it.
Riker is definitely a manipulative door/wall puncher lmao. You can see his passive aggressive digs at her throughout the whole video. I’m happy she’s free
@@raizelcortez3219 absolutely not only that but the wording and phrasing and lack of awareness. Him about to level up when he says she needs to listen more, gave me "you need to do what you're told or else" kinda vibe
7:30 He isn't asking for someone who 'listens', he's asking for someone who 'follows orders', and there's a big difference. She knows that, and I'm quite sure he knows that too. Super manipulative.
@@anna-ij8rb Instead of only considering the words people say, consider what they're trying to get by saying those words. Imagine someone who doesn't care about lying or telling the truth, and who only cares about getting what they want. That sort of person will say anything to get what they want. Typically when someone's words don't quite align with reality, but the words they use would advantage them if you assumed they were true, then you can assume they're lying.
And it was so obvious that he was talking about something in their relationship, as if she was forced to do the things he wanted. He seems like the type to get very passive aggressive at someone when they don't "listen more" or "answers to his prayers" + He wants HER to still miss him, he was doing everything he could to get that "ego boost" and power over her
I think bc Ryker was so intense that couple overshadowed. But I also thought their dynamic was interesting, sweet, awkward & confusing lol. I wish I new how old they were. Seem very early 20s
Him saying his favorite thing was her ordering for him made me tear up, it’s something so small but made me think how comfortable and trusting they must’ve been with each other
I swear girls that don't always expect you to do and handle everything at all time is a blessing. A simple thing like taking an order for him is enough to make a man happy, it just shows that you care .
Wait but I have so much respect for that woman for saying “that’s not fair. I put in so much effort”. His response to that question was telllllling and girl I’ve been there. Don’t let anyone tell you you’re not giving when you know for a fact you are.
Just because you’re sitting there listening doesn’t mean the other person feels heard. Not blaming either of them, but this seems to be a common disconnect
@@ahha2523 His form of listening was wanting her to be obedient or blindly agree with him. He has anger and mental issues that he needs to work on and stop blaming someone else for his feelings.
Ok but is he? Or does he just genuinely have feelings and didn't want to lose her. It's hard to tell. Just because someone shows their emotions maybe differently or more than others doesn't mean they're manipulative. I struggle with this a lot. I am human. I have feelings. When I talk to people about those feelings I'm trying to help myself, I don't want to manipulate them into anything, thats not my intention. That's my problem with this
I can tell Ryker was hard to deal with. The way Miranda didn't want to kiss but did it because he was getting upset about her saying "I don't know" brings me back to my toxic relationships. I hope she is doing well!
Ryker reminds me so much of my ex lmao, it's like they're specimens of the same clone or something. Miranda should run for the hills he is very manipulative. that + the anger outbursts - just no.
Please go ahead and call him a rapist as well. You people should just date your own gender and leave us alone. Have a problem with everything that a man does. He literally didn't force her or anything. In every walk of life there's going to be some level of bargaining and here it wasn't that. He is entitled to his sadness but how dare a man feel anything but admiration for women, happiness and pleasantness right? Then crocodile tears on men don't feel safe to express emotions... wow!
I can't help but feel Miranda was definitely trying to protect herself, the entire video. You can see her trying to keep a straight face while Riker was balling his eyes out, trying to resist giving into his vulnerability. Idk how she got through it, but I certainly hope she finds someone who makes her feel safe. ❤
@@espressonoob from feeling hurt again, emotionally or physically 💔 maybe she felt scared that if she just gave into his wishes, she’d get hurt again and go through unnecessary drama
I feel like she’s been in a cycle of being manipulated by him and him twisting around his issues into something that was her fault. Sounds like he was being volatile and taking out anger around her but then blaming her for withdrawing.
@@Natu014 sounds like BPD to me. Efforts to avoid abandonment lead to manipulation but not purposeful manipulation. I have BPD. It is HELL in my mind when my gf and I fight. I hope Miranda is able to keep herself safe and recognize that his emotional lability is not her responsibility. Sometimes it’s better to love people from further away.
If you listened to her earlier, she stated that he has anger issues. Imagine living with someone who can't regulate their emotions. That shit is DRAINING.
as someone with severe anxiety who “ practices their lines “ before appearing in public ill say ryker does seem like this ain his first time saying it 😂 also he’s named after a prison like come on now
I truly can't imagine what Riker will say in private, when he say those things on camera. He went from bawling his eyes out and claiming he's never going to find love like that again to critiquing the shit out of her PUBLICLY.
The fact he's far more attractive than her, for one. She said he had anger issues. He said she didn't listen. But her criticism is valid and his is ABUSE. @@kaskaskas
as someone who had a VERY emotionally abusive and manipulative ex, i see the red flags from ryker a mile away lmao. not insinuating that he is abusive, but he seems manipulative. i hope they both find someone that is better suited for them and are able to get into healthy relationships. i hope she realizes her worth and that there are signs to look for
yeah i hope riker gets help. dude definitely punches shit around the house. once he gets better i hope he finds someone. i also hope miranda finds someone as special, but i will say that she needs to start losing weight. not being mean or fat shaming, but if fat guys arent her thing (which theyre clearly not looking at riker) then she would have to get very lucky if shes not willing to put in the work
@@oliviamckinney6340 fat shaming - "the action or practice of humiliating someone judged to be fat or overweight by making mocking or critical comments about their size" tell me where i was doing that
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 you are saying she can only get guys of her type if she slims down. you're basically saying she isn't worth anything if she doesn't lose weight. I don't know why you needed to feel the need to comment on her body she didn't ask you for your opinion.
Even with the kissing dare… he was SHOCKED that she didn’t want to kiss him and was getting angry about it, and then equally shocked/pissed when she did a single quick one. He was really hoping he still had huge amounts of power over her. I just got out of a marriage like this, it’s actually terrifying.
She seems like a sweet person with her head on her shoulders, been hurt way too many times and knew she shouldn't be with that person. That doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt. I feel for her! It absolutely sucks
Savannah has her wall up so high. Shes afraid to be vulnerable in this relationship and seems like a runner. She tries to use humor to mask her real feelings but overall she seems to really like him and they seem like a good match
@@michellealvarez5451 Wdym she did him dirty and is the one who broke up with him😂 She has the upper hand, its clear that she doesn’t want to be with him in THAT way. She wants him around, but not the commitment of the actual relationship. You can read christians face like a book when she says she likes them better ‘as friends now’
@@saraosori14 they're friends with benefits. savannah needs to learn how to respect herself and not focus so much on needing christians presence for her comfort, that's why she loves sleeping with him as friends and not as lovers any longer.
I think she wants him back (in bed), that outfit says date night not mourning 😄 she also admits "we work well together *giggles*" 🔥 I get it girl! Ex d is the safest d around, period.
For the girl in the red skirt: please run, run as fast as you can and never look back. He seems like someone with anger issues. His emotions where all over the place. Spare your self a life full misery of with him.
I feel toxicity from him and he's a very sensitive and emotional person. I see myself in his bad habits, I hope he can find peace and learn to be a better person before becoming someone else's partner. They still love each other, but it's so obviously done.
idk if he was acting he looked genuinely sad. But I do agree that he doesn't look good for her as is. I feel like he has good intentions but has a poor hold on his emotions and how they impact her. Good that he's in therapy ig.
I think they might just end up being together again.. even if it was the shots talking but yet I feel they are deeply attached to each other.. They could date others but then maybe get back to each other!
how quickly and completely Riker fell apart is extremely worrying, and how often and extreme his emotional swings were in the first 2 mins is unsettling. I hope Miranda finds someone I hope Riker does well on his mental health journey... and i hope he stays out of a relationship for a while.
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Riker made me side eye him so many times. His emotions came off so much like a soap opera or the break up point of a rom com 😂😂😂 Second hand embarrasement it seemed so ingenuine
Ryker gives me so many red flags. His manipulative and explosive nature shakes me to my core. I also had a partner who took their anger out “around me” and it absolutely was traumatic for me too. I still experience fear that people will do that even if it’s so far from the reality. He needs to take responsibility for his own actions and be accountable for the ways he has hurt Miranda. You can tell you has a victim complex.
Why do you make immediate assumptions. We don’t know the details. If the details were that terrible then I have trouble thinking she’d want to go on this in the first place
That's literlly what projection is. "I had an ex who did xyz..." - ok? You had an ex who traumatised you, that doesn't give you license to make moral judgments about this guy whatsoever.
The speed and intensity with which Riker went back and forth with his attitude/comments and emotional state raised HUGE flags for me. I liked him initially but after that rollercoaster... protect your peace, Miranda!
Do note that the video is edited, and that a lot was probably cut out for brevity. For all we know, this was probably an hour or two of footage that got condensed down to 10 minutes. The "speed and intensity" you noticed is most likely mistaken.
Poor Miranda. I can see why she’s being guarded and distant. Dude has a lot going on, I hope he gets help and that his therapist is trauma focused. I do feel for him too.
i tnink a lot of men go though that, their lack of self love and self steem makes them insecure and angry and manipulative with their partners to make them fill the void they have themselves inside. And ath the same time they hate that part of themselves and try to love deeply their partners and suffer alot when they loose them. I hope he can solve it before giving more pain to others and to himself.
Feels a lot like Miranda is being emotionally manipulated. I hope she moves on. I also hope he gets the help that he needs because he seems like a really great guy with a lot of love to give. But at the moment, he seems a bit explosive.
@@DA-js7xz lol which doesn’t change my opinion of the way he treated her. Glad he sees therapy is needed. But being “in therapy” doesn’t fix him magically, it takes time and effort. His words and actions would suggest he’s a work in progress. She deserves to be in a relationship where she is there by choice, not manipulated by guilt.
Dudes like, “yeah I wanted to marry you so much and I miss you every single day” but had no issue hooking up with another girl and describing it in her vicinity. Which I don’t believe was an accident for a second. That is not how you treat the woman you want to marry.
Are you braindead by any chance? They broke up and he went to someone else for the physical intimacy that he missed,it's called a rebound and it's very normal. Him wanting to marry her might've been valid while they were together,that's why it's in past tense. I swear to God people like you shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
Bruhhhh when Ryker read the card that said “I dare you to kiss me” and she said idk. His response was soooo manipulative and creepy in fact kinda. 8:55
It’s funny, people say they want men to be more emotionally open and vulnerable, but the minute they are, the same people who’ve asked for it don’t know how to handle seeing it/feel about it and usually end up uncomfortable lol
Riker needs to continue with his therapy sessions. Having a conversation with your therapist about a hook-up while your ex is still in the apartment, then acting surprised that she heard part of that conversation, like she shouldn't have, the "you suck" used as a joke so naturally, diminishing the whole experience of ending their relationship by saying "I miss watching tv with you"... And then the meltdown afterwards, which is even more revealing (she has to say “I love you” to make him feel better, very manipulative from him)... The whole thing, guys... no. Please. Being a bit older here, I can see a fully unbalanced vibe from Riker that I don’t dig. He may be either very inexperienced (too young) or a bit toxic. Good thing is, he's going to therapy. Miranda, she's better off without him, I guess.
Speaking on the Zoom session though, knowing they live together and she knows the walls are thin, she chose to stay where she could be exposed to the conversation versus leaving for the time being. I feel like that was likely a choice and maybe even predictable as it seems like that was not the first time he had online therapy and on her a bit even if unintentional. I agree though that he shouldn't be surprised that she would have her feelings hurt from overhearing.
@@Ellie-jl3vk well, he was in his home as well. I don't think he should watch out for what he says in therapy just 'cause there is another person in the house. therapy time is really a private thing and if the person knows to respect the other one, then they would do anything but listen to what the person is saying.
💯!!! how low to gp on a date while you're still figuring out the separation and then talking about it - was a trap for her to hurt her. And anyway, I know tons of people who do therapy and don't change because they want to tell themselves they're doing fine and everyone else is the problem. They're just offloading or abstracting rather than really addressing. Sounds like he kind of pats hinself on the back for doing therapy - and then still behaving like a douche!
I used to not even talk about my friends to my therapist while I was living with one of them and this man talking about fucking someone else while living with his ex 🤦🏿♂️
His fake tears, omg. "Listen to them ... when someone is openly asking you!" You can tell she was his de facto therapist in between the Zoom one. The actual ick, tho.
Riker seems like the type of guy that would try to convince her to keep dating by emotionally manipulating her when he wants. Then he'd probably go back to being a shitty person when he gets her where he wants. My ex was like this. And it's extremely hard to break out of the cycle.
@@braylon4125 Rikers sounds like the type of guy who thinks that somehow justifies cheating on her whilst still dating (which somehow he didn't know they still were but after a proper break up is supposedly crying DAILY about her?). He also seems like the type of guy who thinks bein ''in therapy'' is somehow equal to being better, even though people who have been in therapy for 2+ years often aren't even better and it clearly means nothing based on his behaviour in this video alone. He also seems like the type of guy that thinks being abusive by taking out his anger ''around'' his girlfriend, aka most likely breaking things, is somehow justified and excused because he is ''in therapy''. Riker is also the type of guy who thinks being ''listened to'' is equal to having someone be obedient and do whatever you want, as his only ''advice'' to his ex is that she should ''listen more when people beg you for something they really want", which has nothing to do with listening and more with the fact they didn't do specific ACTIONS that you wanted aka were not obedient. Now, is all of this justified because he is a ''guy who struggles"? It's not, none of it is. Your baggage is yours, your significant other is not your therapist, and you being manipulative and borderline abusive is NOT ever gonna be justified by whether or not you have mental issues going on. That's a YOU problem.
I can see it he's got some acting chops but people don't talk like that in situations like this, And just for the record, they're all a huge pass in my book
@@the-bill-cipher in a similar logic... Never leave your children alone with female nurses or midwives... It may be a very small number of them, but enough have been convicted for murdering children or babies 🤷♂️ guess we should treat them all the same!
From the question roughly 6 minutes in, Ryker is literally doing the most to perform how he thinks he’s meant to be acting 😒 girl you better RUN and remember you can do better and you will
The part where Ryker gives one word of advice and she counteracts clearly shows they are on different pages. He feels he wasn't validated/ listened to when he was at a very low point, whereas she thinks she did listen. I think they are both right in their own ways - she probably did listen and was there as much as she could be, but he needed more. And as painful as it is, its good they broke up because they are both better off finding someone who is on a better wavelength/page as each other. Wishing everyone the best ❤
Yeah I agree, I think she did listen in her own way but I think it would have been beneficial to have asked him what she needs to do to feel heard, because despite the fact that she was listening there was still something he was missing to feel seen. The only way to know each others needs though is to properly communicate.
@@rayfreeman6998 I got dumped by my fiancee after a year, that sucked for many, many months but after a while it does get better. I just started working on multiple businesses, hitting the gym harder and now my bank account and looks (and skin) have never been better. You have to turn your pain into motivation to do amazing things for yourself. Love is cool if it happens accordingly, but if it doesn't then I might as well take care of myself and my parents first. You'll get stronger out of this!
I don’t know whether to feel lucky that I’ve never had a breakup anywhere near this emotional, or sad that I’ve never been able to feel this intensely about anyone 😅
I've been through a break up that hurt me more than I thought I could hurt and now that I'm past that hurt the love I felt was well worth the pain of it not working out
what he said: ‘listen more’ ‘when someone is begging’ ‘do things that take effort’ what he meant: do exactly what i want when i want. he’s a walking red flag
@@rsmith4407 Nobody is saying therapy is a 100% cure. But I am saying that he has acknowledged a problem and is showing that he is working to fix it. Yall are looking for every reason to hate rather than help. Yall are acting like yall have this guy completely figured out when you don't.
you said exactly what I was thinking. He definitely resents that she set boundaries. He wanted her to sacrifice her happiness for his and called it "not listening" when she stood up for herself.
"I don't know whether it's going to hurt me or not" Ryker: *shrugs*. Ryker earlier: drowning in sorrow. Also Ryker, when kissing her: arms folded, barely getting up from chair, zero reaction to the kiss.
Both these ex couples seem like great people who just didn’t work out w each other. It was nice seeing Miranda comfort ryker when he started crying about how much he missed her and see him accept her hand for comfort. It’s the little things, it didn’t have to be a romantic gesture but a comforting one
At 5:57 to right about at 6:48 , nearly all of us have felt that way. The realization that the future you dreamt with that person - the certainty of it and how sure you were that dreams would become reality - will now not happen ... you can hear it in the way he conveys his feelings and emotions. To his credit, he reminds us how fresh the breakup is, and wow, I remembered feeling the way he does in that part of this video. As much as I loathe platitudes, Ryker: it will get better. Time has a funny way of working things out. My ex-wife and I were each others best friends; I never ever thought I would feel that way about someone else ever again. Turns out, 5 years later, someone else came along and made me feel alive again. Take your time, heal, learn from the past, and keep bettering yourself. With the right attitude and mindset, it gets better. Really hoping he overcomes the hurt. I felt that one deep.
Time has the funniest way of healing things.. love that you posted this and agree with it all. I, too, know that feeling of certainty about the future, especially when it comes to those I love. Planning things, imagining the future, simply daydreaming about whatever but always with them and you in mind, to not.. it's earth-shattering until you can breathe again knowing you're okay. Happy to read that love found you again :)
Love Christian and Savannah's vibe. They seem like very cool people. Watching Miranda and Riker together is... disturbing, good on her for setting some boundaries.
Absolutely feel and sympathize for Miranda. Coming from a similar situation, I can’t imagine how much of a relief but also how painful that breakup must have been.
Ryker reminds me of my mentally abusive ex boyfriend. Seems so sweet on the outside but when you dig deeper there's so much manipulation and gaslighting.
You can tell miranda is holding back what she really wants to say because of his issues with anger. The way they are is exactly how I was with my ex. I would agree with him just because if I felt differently to him he would get mad real quick. I wish her nothing but the best ❤
i feel like ryker wanted more than someone to listen, because this whole time she was so attentive and from the way they described things she always has been. she’s also very careful with her words, she really cares about him but he seems like he needs more time to heal from other things.
For the couple with black shirt and dress: she mentioned he would "take out" his issues near her, he also just went a dated someone else while still living with her after a breakup. Seems like it wasn't very clear where they were but for me he seems a narcissist. He was overdoing the crying, I am not buying him. She really seemed very understanding to him but he wasn't giving the same.
Yes. But it was also odd that she became so defensive when he said she could listen more with all the 'that's so unfair I make so much effort'. I think there were times he tried to break down the barrier and she stonewalled hime.
Seems like Ryker still can't take responsibility of his own emotions. But I personally feel that taking responsibility is not that easy as it sounds like, and requires a lot of brainstorming / self acceptance / and dealing with self hatred. Hope Ryker can find peace and finally find a great relationship.
The dude went on a date with somebody else a WEEK after they maybe broke up. I do believe he needs a therapist, and I do believe that they both loved the idea of their relationship, but it is clear he didn't love her. For him to be in tears acting like she didn't try hard enough is just icky. I see my ex in him so much. I hope she finds somebody that truly deserves her.
4 months late but the way Savannah and Christian handled this was nice. Yeah there might have been a lot of tension but they were able to talk through it and laugh and enjoy each other’s presents. Neither of them seem to be possessive over each other, but they still have that spark of friendliness in them that keeps the close (?)
when Riker described the relationship, he mentions and focuses on himself ("someone I have spent so much time with" ..., when I watch shows with you ..., I won't get to watch house of dragon"). he gives psychopathic vibes and she should have listened to gut about not wanting to kiss him.
“When someone as special as you comes along” immediately started crying
Same 🥺
Damnit. I’m teary-eyed again.
Feel like Ryker didn’t know what he had or didn’t appreciate it enough. When a woman says “i tried so hard” you know they’re doing more than enough
@@Burgerbeast101 It's easy to assume but most probably that wasn't the case lol
@@Burgerbeast101 it was pretty clear that he has emotional regulation issues and for her it was likely a game of constantly walking on eggshells around him. That can make you exhausted and you begin to resent your partner. Glad he's in therapy though. I really hope it helps him!
The emotions in this video are going from aggression to tearing up so quickly lmao
I got chills
The alcohol kicked in. 😅
Right? That dude is kinda creepy and scary. Idk if it’s mental disability or a narcissist personality.
@@nikitah8303 😂😂
😭😭😭
“What does slept mean?” That man is media trained😂
LOL. That part!
“Have you fucked anyone since August!?”
“… when you say ‘fuck’ … “
*cracks up laughing*
“Shut up!”
I’m rooting for them. 😂
😂😂😂
Lost in Translation for the win 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
😂😂
Man took the entanglement course 101
Ryker crying and saying "it's fresh...it's really fresh" while forgetting when they broke up and sleeping with someone soon after is SOOOO telling
u hit the nail on the head
so telling of what?
@@dreamsnicerthat is was (probably,maybe) the problem.
The fake crying
@@dreamsniceridk what this person specifically means but my interpretation is that ryker went thru the post breakup rebound process to cope with losing her, meaning that even though they broke up really recently and he had his rebound, he still never took time to actually think and emotionally process the emotions of his breakup
Ryker goes back and forth between being passive aggressive towards Miranda and then is like “omg I miss you and I wanted to marry you so bad”
Some men aren’t good with being confrontational. And she doesn’t seem very inviting to his feelings.
But yeah, he still shouldn’t hold it all inside til it seeps out in passive aggressive ways.
But again, hard not to when the girl won’t even let you talk to your therapist without turning it into a fight.
@@KingstonHawke it’s crazy you saw it that way because i saw it as him being super manipulative. like it seemed like miranda was trying not to give back in/stay strong while he was like trying to manipulate the situations into her being the “bad guy” (or at least that he wasn’t in the wrong). idk it’s hard to know what went on between them since we aren’t them but funny that it can be perceived differently from the same content.
@@KingstonHawke he literally told his therapist he cheated on her 😂 she only listened cos she had a gut instinct which turned out correct.
whew
@Aila Verco You having ''baggage'' does not mean you are not passive agressive and a potentially shit person. Shocker, most serial killers also have a lot of ''baggage'', doesn't mean they aren't evil murderers now does it? He goes from saying that she should just move on from hearing he slept with someone else within days of them (not even really) having broken up, and acts pretty rude about it even though she is clarifying that she agrees it was miscommunication. Then suddenly switches and cries saying he wanted to marry her and misses her EVERYDAY, yet a few minutes ago was being passive agressive towards her because she wasnt happy hearing that he essentially cheated on her as they were not properly broken up.
He even ADMITS that he does in fact take out his anger ''around her'', which is literal abuse. Those are not normal descriptive words, and clearly imply he would break, punch or do stuff around her that is not normal cause of his anger issues. Then has the audacity to say that SHE should ''listen more'' in her next relationship, when throughout the video she is the one constantly walking around eggshells trying to make sure not a single word is triggering him into getting rude and agressive towards her. Plus his definition of ''listening'' was to listen when someone is begging you to do something that they really want, aka be OBEDIENT. Very different from listening. It was so obvious even at the end! Her CLEARLY being unsure about kissing him, and him clearly looking unhappy, pressuring her.
This isn't ''emotional", this is emotional irregulation. EVERYONE has emotions, we are humans, emotions come with it no matter your gender. It doesn't mean that having emotional irregulations and VERY clearly needing mental help justifies your deeds. Your emotions are still yours, and yours actions are yours. If you have baggage in your life, go fix it, not ruin someone else's life with it.
when homie started crying I felt like I needed to leave the room 🫥
😂😂
Lmaoooo
frrrr I was like 😶
Yall goofy 😂 comment AND replies made me laugh
😂😂😂😂
I can tell bro goes from crying to punching walls real quick 😅
Forget wall punching he hits bins with baseball bats lol
He does. I’ve seen it in person
@@Pvtryan2167 you've seen HIM punching walls?
its giving kyle and drywall
Ronnie from jersey shores.
Miranda not being fazed by Ryker’s “performance” is ALL I need to know
FRRR lmao not a single tear on that man's face, and then the advice where he tells her to "try more" yeah we all knew
For real... he's just trying to hit raw before they part ways again 💀
@@Deedruh.Lmao😂😂💀
Noticed that too
@@Deedruh.HEAVY ON THAT ONE.
I was expecting drama from Savannah and Christian but they were funny and cute asf. There energy together was fun
Their
It probably was that’s why some of their answers were cut out
idk he deserves better
@@JakeBor i like it my way
@@kiarathompson8145 I
Riker is definitely a manipulative door/wall puncher lmao. You can see his passive aggressive digs at her throughout the whole video. I’m happy she’s free
...?
@@Loading-lg6hs this is quite literally exactly what happened
I was thinkin the same thing😂
Idk if I’m just too skeptical when people cry cos of my exes, but am I the only one who thought his voice when he was “crying” sounded fake?
@@raizelcortez3219 absolutely not only that but the wording and phrasing and lack of awareness. Him about to level up when he says she needs to listen more, gave me "you need to do what you're told or else" kinda vibe
D got D-clined is crazy💀
HAHAHA this got me LOL
Lmaooo
10 000 likes
😂
7:30 He isn't asking for someone who 'listens', he's asking for someone who 'follows orders', and there's a big difference. She knows that, and I'm quite sure he knows that too. Super manipulative.
😭 thank you for your comment
Tell me how to read people
@@anna-ij8rb Instead of only considering the words people say, consider what they're trying to get by saying those words.
Imagine someone who doesn't care about lying or telling the truth, and who only cares about getting what they want. That sort of person will say anything to get what they want. Typically when someone's words don't quite align with reality, but the words they use would advantage them if you assumed they were true, then you can assume they're lying.
bro he seems insane ngl
And it was so obvious that he was talking about something in their relationship, as if she was forced to do the things he wanted.
He seems like the type to get very passive aggressive at someone when they don't "listen more" or "answers to his prayers"
+ He wants HER to still miss him, he was doing everything he could to get that "ego boost" and power over her
Why is nobody talkin bout how funny Savannah and Christian are lmao I was geeking every time they were on screen
I think he said his name was Kristen 💀
They're so adorable and the way they look at each other?? Pulling my hair and sliding down the wall
I think bc Ryker was so intense that couple overshadowed. But I also thought their dynamic was interesting, sweet, awkward & confusing lol. I wish I new how old they were. Seem very early 20s
@@ileanabanana8254LMFAOOO
Kristen seems too sweet for Savannah lmao
Him saying his favorite thing was her ordering for him made me tear up, it’s something so small but made me think how comfortable and trusting they must’ve been with each other
Bahahahahaha
@@DA-js7xz shut up
@@DA-js7xz ?
I swear girls that don't always expect you to do and handle everything at all time is a blessing. A simple thing like taking an order for him is enough to make a man happy, it just shows that you care .
Cause yall want a parent basically in the relationship.
Wait but I have so much respect for that woman for saying “that’s not fair. I put in so much effort”. His response to that question was telllllling and girl I’ve been there. Don’t let anyone tell you you’re not giving when you know for a fact you are.
Cringe. Of course you're gonna think you are giving enough, doesn't mean you really do.
Just because you’re sitting there listening doesn’t mean the other person feels heard. Not blaming either of them, but this seems to be a common disconnect
@@ahha2523 His form of listening was wanting her to be obedient or blindly agree with him. He has anger and mental issues that he needs to work on and stop blaming someone else for his feelings.
@@ahha2523 His way of feeling heard very clearly lies in her following everything he does. The emotional manipulation is top tier for this guy
@@Aj-sn1dp you might be right, but saying it’s “very clear” is just false lol
Riker is 100% emotionally manipulative its scary..i can see the gaslighting and shes so lucky shes out
Ok but is he? Or does he just genuinely have feelings and didn't want to lose her. It's hard to tell. Just because someone shows their emotions maybe differently or more than others doesn't mean they're manipulative. I struggle with this a lot. I am human. I have feelings. When I talk to people about those feelings I'm trying to help myself, I don't want to manipulate them into anything, thats not my intention. That's my problem with this
Glad someone else got that!!!
It's horrible
I can tell Ryker was hard to deal with. The way Miranda didn't want to kiss but did it because he was getting upset about her saying "I don't know" brings me back to my toxic relationships. I hope she is doing well!
Ryker reminds me so much of my ex lmao, it's like they're specimens of the same clone or something. Miranda should run for the hills
he is very manipulative. that + the anger outbursts - just no.
It’s nothing to do because she was upset, she says herself in the video why. Stop projecting and putting narratives on people.
Bruh you can’t make these assumptions about people from a ten minute video
@@ponagesports5447 “bruh”, you my have your opinion on it but from what I see and get is not ok. The guy may have some sort of mental health issue.
Please go ahead and call him a rapist as well. You people should just date your own gender and leave us alone. Have a problem with everything that a man does. He literally didn't force her or anything. In every walk of life there's going to be some level of bargaining and here it wasn't that. He is entitled to his sadness but how dare a man feel anything but admiration for women, happiness and pleasantness right? Then crocodile tears on men don't feel safe to express emotions... wow!
I can't help but feel Miranda was definitely trying to protect herself, the entire video. You can see her trying to keep a straight face while Riker was balling his eyes out, trying to resist giving into his vulnerability. Idk how she got through it, but I certainly hope she finds someone who makes her feel safe. ❤
protect from what?
@@espressonoob from feeling hurt again, emotionally or physically 💔 maybe she felt scared that if she just gave into his wishes, she’d get hurt again and go through unnecessary drama
I feel like she’s been in a cycle of being manipulated by him and him twisting around his issues into something that was her fault. Sounds like he was being volatile and taking out anger around her but then blaming her for withdrawing.
@@Natu014 sounds like BPD to me. Efforts to avoid abandonment lead to manipulation but not purposeful manipulation. I have BPD. It is HELL in my mind when my gf and I fight.
I hope Miranda is able to keep herself safe and recognize that his emotional lability is not her responsibility. Sometimes it’s better to love people from further away.
Led me to think
They're not being dramatic, break ups are HARD lol
IYKYK
So hard and it’s about to be Valentine’s Day 😩
Break ups r not hard at all 😂😂
@@enishalihoward8119 maybe thats bc ur a problem😭😭
If you listened to her earlier, she stated that he has anger issues. Imagine living with someone who can't regulate their emotions. That shit is DRAINING.
Riker practised that crying scene.
as someone with severe anxiety who “ practices their lines “ before appearing in public ill say ryker does seem like this ain his first time saying it 😂 also he’s named after a prison like come on now
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@braidenfriday2389
I truly can't imagine what Riker will say in private, when he say those things on camera. He went from bawling his eyes out and claiming he's never going to find love like that again to critiquing the shit out of her PUBLICLY.
Like what he said about her that was wrong?
@@ExMuslimRev11 what about him wasn't wrong. that's a better question.
when you put fresh exes in a room and have them drink and question each other it can get ugly😂
The fact he's far more attractive than her, for one.
She said he had anger issues. He said she didn't listen. But her criticism is valid and his is ABUSE. @@kaskaskas
"PUBLICLY"? ...............It's a public video she agreed to do.
as someone who had a VERY emotionally abusive and manipulative ex, i see the red flags from ryker a mile away lmao. not insinuating that he is abusive, but he seems manipulative. i hope they both find someone that is better suited for them and are able to get into healthy relationships. i hope she realizes her worth and that there are signs to look for
yeah i hope riker gets help. dude definitely punches shit around the house. once he gets better i hope he finds someone.
i also hope miranda finds someone as special, but i will say that she needs to start losing weight. not being mean or fat shaming, but if fat guys arent her thing (which theyre clearly not looking at riker) then she would have to get very lucky if shes not willing to put in the work
That’s interesting. I see that… I get the sense that Savannah is manipulative too
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 "Not ft shaming but..." You are literally fat shaming her
@@oliviamckinney6340 fat shaming - "the action or practice of humiliating someone judged to be fat or overweight by making mocking or critical comments about their size"
tell me where i was doing that
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 you are saying she can only get guys of her type if she slims down. you're basically saying she isn't worth anything if she doesn't lose weight. I don't know why you needed to feel the need to comment on her body she didn't ask you for your opinion.
Ryker is emotionally manipulative I can see the signs allllll over and she’s kind. Perfect victim
No, you're just a misandrist.
Even with the kissing dare… he was SHOCKED that she didn’t want to kiss him and was getting angry about it, and then equally shocked/pissed when she did a single quick one. He was really hoping he still had huge amounts of power over her. I just got out of a marriage like this, it’s actually terrifying.
@@winiconnor4981 same ! Best thing is no contact for people like this
T H I S
@@winiconnor4981 He wasn't "getting angry" in any way whatsoever. Stop projecting your trauma onto the world.
Ryker gave me a bad feeling and looking at the comments I'm not the only one feeling this way. What a scary guy.
He blows hot and cold, like bipolar vibes!
Borderline disorders
He's very fake the crying was so rehersed
Thays why he in therapy @@hopebullard460
miranda's roomie here to confirm she is in fact the coolest and sweetest
Oh Ahmed 💩
She definitely seems like a sweet person. I really do hope she's doing great
any update on her and Riker?
She seems like a sweet person with her head on her shoulders, been hurt way too many times and knew she shouldn't be with that person. That doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt. I feel for her! It absolutely sucks
U never been in a relationship wit her so you would never kno
Savannah and Christian are so funny LMAO i hope they got back together again, they seemed like a great fit for each other
Savannah has her wall up so high. Shes afraid to be vulnerable in this relationship and seems like a runner. She tries to use humor to mask her real feelings but overall she seems to really like him and they seem like a good match
@@michellealvarez5451 Wdym she did him dirty and is the one who broke up with him😂 She has the upper hand, its clear that she doesn’t want to be with him in THAT way. She wants him around, but not the commitment of the actual relationship. You can read christians face like a book when she says she likes them better ‘as friends now’
@@saraosori14 they're friends with benefits. savannah needs to learn how to respect herself and not focus so much on needing christians presence for her comfort, that's why she loves sleeping with him as friends and not as lovers any longer.
right?! so playful haha
I think she’s so over him
I really enjoyed watching Miranda and Riker. Hope they find happiness. Separately LOL
THIS.
I think she wants him back (in bed), that outfit says date night not mourning 😄 she also admits "we work well together *giggles*" 🔥 I get it girl! Ex d is the safest d around, period.
@@GaiaGalaxy420 boy STFU, thats just a casual outfit
@@GaiaGalaxy420 what? her outfit doesn’t “say anything” you’re just weird
@@funnygal5837 I never said I wasnt. You aint funny tho, troll.
For the girl in the red skirt: please run, run as fast as you can and never look back. He seems like someone with anger issues. His emotions where all over the place. Spare your self a life full misery of with him.
Riker is such an actor.
Glad you were able to stand up for yourself Miranda or he would've walked all over you.
Paid
All that from 10 minute video?
I feel toxicity from him and he's a very sensitive and emotional person. I see myself in his bad habits, I hope he can find peace and learn to be a better person before becoming someone else's partner. They still love each other, but it's so obviously done.
idk if he was acting he looked genuinely sad. But I do agree that he doesn't look good for her as is.
I feel like he has good intentions but has a poor hold on his emotions and how they impact her. Good that he's in therapy ig.
Misandrist.
Man Ryker seemed like such a nice guy, until all of a sudden he didnt
r/niceguys
I’m proud of Miranda for knowing what’s best for her 🫶🏽 and I hope Riker finds someone 💜
This, I can tell she truly loves him but I’m so glad she was able to walk away when she needed to, that’s hard
But howwwww! I could never 👏👏👏👏👏
I think they might just end up being together again.. even if it was the shots talking but yet I feel they are deeply attached to each other..
They could date others but then maybe get back to each other!
how quickly and completely Riker fell apart is extremely worrying, and how often and extreme his emotional swings were in the first 2 mins is unsettling.
I hope Miranda finds someone
I hope Riker does well on his mental health journey... and i hope he stays out of a relationship for a while.
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Riker made me side eye him so many times. His emotions came off so much like a soap opera or the break up point of a rom com 😂😂😂 Second hand embarrasement it seemed so ingenuine
Misandrist
I felt exactly the same
Give that boy an oscar lol
Oscar?? For that?
@@sarcasticgal6403He seemed like an idiot.
Yo Riker is a door/wall puncher 100%
i hate these types so
Frrrr am so happy homegurl escaped safely
So you are saying one shouldn't let their anger out. Atleast it's not on humans 💀
@@truth6074 yes thats what we said word for word, how attentive you are
@@truth6074 toxic mf
Ryker gives me so many red flags. His manipulative and explosive nature shakes me to my core. I also had a partner who took their anger out “around me” and it absolutely was traumatic for me too. I still experience fear that people will do that even if it’s so far from the reality. He needs to take responsibility for his own actions and be accountable for the ways he has hurt Miranda. You can tell you has a victim complex.
The Spanish chick acts the same way
same, actively cringed and reminded me of my ex so much. she’s so strong, I wouldn’t be able to even hear my ex’s voice
Why do you make immediate assumptions. We don’t know the details. If the details were that terrible then I have trouble thinking she’d want to go on this in the first place
@@ponagesports5447 he is hot af and he knows that and he uses it to be a b*tch he is
That's literlly what projection is. "I had an ex who did xyz..." - ok? You had an ex who traumatised you, that doesn't give you license to make moral judgments about this guy whatsoever.
The speed and intensity with which Riker went back and forth with his attitude/comments and emotional state raised HUGE flags for me. I liked him initially but after that rollercoaster... protect your peace, Miranda!
All that from 10 minute video?
Do note that the video is edited, and that a lot was probably cut out for brevity. For all we know, this was probably an hour or two of footage that got condensed down to 10 minutes. The "speed and intensity" you noticed is most likely mistaken.
Misandrist.
ryker we know its you... we know this ur alt account... stop commenting on all the comments hating on u lol@@hehehheyy
It was very obviously fake crying. Narc behaviour
Poor Miranda. I can see why she’s being guarded and distant. Dude has a lot going on, I hope he gets help and that his therapist is trauma focused. I do feel for him too.
Amen.
I get a little bit of BPD vibes from him but obviously I have no idea. I hope he's getting good help processing his emotions.
i tnink a lot of men go though that, their lack of self love and self steem makes them insecure and angry and manipulative with their partners to make them fill the void they have themselves inside. And ath the same time they hate that part of themselves and try to love deeply their partners and suffer alot when they loose them. I hope he can solve it before giving more pain to others and to himself.
Feels a lot like Miranda is being emotionally manipulated. I hope she moves on. I also hope he gets the help that he needs because he seems like a really great guy with a lot of love to give. But at the moment, he seems a bit explosive.
Calm down. If you bothered to listen you'd see that he's in therapy.
@@DA-js7xz lol which doesn’t change my opinion of the way he treated her. Glad he sees therapy is needed. But being “in therapy” doesn’t fix him magically, it takes time and effort. His words and actions would suggest he’s a work in progress. She deserves to be in a relationship where she is there by choice, not manipulated by guilt.
Facts
Yeah I’m glad she got out of that before it escalated
@@DA-js7xzyou’re such a jerk
Dudes like, “yeah I wanted to marry you so much and I miss you every single day” but had no issue hooking up with another girl and describing it in her vicinity. Which I don’t believe was an accident for a second. That is not how you treat the woman you want to marry.
The question was literally asked to him... You people are dumb
Are you braindead by any chance?
They broke up and he went to someone else for the physical intimacy that he missed,it's called a rebound and it's very normal.
Him wanting to marry her might've been valid while they were together,that's why it's in past tense.
I swear to God people like you shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
savannah and christian actually have so much chemistry
Na she seems very toxic. I hope he finds happiness.
@@deztellez2571 she does seem so toxic. He looked hurt honestly
She’s a little immature and very defensive. She need to focus on herself and Christian need the same too.
@@deztellez2571literally i could tell ah hoe when i see one i really dont like her lame ass 🤣🤣💯
Hmm so much lust, yeah
Bruhhhh when Ryker read the card that said “I dare you to kiss me” and she said idk. His response was soooo manipulative and creepy in fact kinda. 8:55
He definitely gives off r@pist vibes.
His face right there was a Freudian slip. Only time he was being real
Wow. This is probably the most secondhand uncomfortable I’ve been in a hot minute.
when ryker got emotional it rlly reminded me of those wattpad stories LMAO
It was funny at first and then I was just like “this is a lot..” 😅
@@dawn_morningstari mean he also had some alcohol in him and they said this is the first time they’ve spoken about it since the break up.
It’s funny, people say they want men to be more emotionally open and vulnerable, but the minute they are, the same people who’ve asked for it don’t know how to handle seeing it/feel about it and usually end up uncomfortable lol
@@dawn_morningstar yeah if he acted like that all the time she was probably just like “not again…”
7:39 when she realised breaking up was a good idea
Riker needs to continue with his therapy sessions.
Having a conversation with your therapist about a hook-up while your ex is still in the apartment, then acting surprised that she heard part of that conversation, like she shouldn't have, the "you suck" used as a joke so naturally, diminishing the whole experience of ending their relationship by saying "I miss watching tv with you"... And then the meltdown afterwards, which is even more revealing (she has to say “I love you” to make him feel better, very manipulative from him)... The whole thing, guys... no. Please.
Being a bit older here, I can see a fully unbalanced vibe from Riker that I don’t dig. He may be either very inexperienced (too young) or a bit toxic. Good thing is, he's going to therapy.
Miranda, she's better off without him, I guess.
Speaking on the Zoom session though, knowing they live together and she knows the walls are thin, she chose to stay where she could be exposed to the conversation versus leaving for the time being. I feel like that was likely a choice and maybe even predictable as it seems like that was not the first time he had online therapy and on her a bit even if unintentional. I agree though that he shouldn't be surprised that she would have her feelings hurt from overhearing.
@@silverbracelet6 She was in her HOME. If he doesn't want to be heard then he should go somewhere private.
@@Ellie-jl3vk well, he was in his home as well. I don't think he should watch out for what he says in therapy just 'cause there is another person in the house. therapy time is really a private thing and if the person knows to respect the other one, then they would do anything but listen to what the person is saying.
💯!!! how low to gp on a date while you're still figuring out the separation and then talking about it - was a trap for her to hurt her. And anyway, I know tons of people who do therapy and don't change because they want to tell themselves they're doing fine and everyone else is the problem. They're just offloading or abstracting rather than really addressing. Sounds like he kind of pats hinself on the back for doing therapy - and then still behaving like a douche!
I used to not even talk about my friends to my therapist while I was living with one of them and this man talking about fucking someone else while living with his ex 🤦🏿♂️
His fake tears, omg. "Listen to them ... when someone is openly asking you!" You can tell she was his de facto therapist in between the Zoom one. The actual ick, tho.
His hair reminds me of that guy from riverdale
This is literally the phases of grief summed up in one video.
Separation grief. Nothing like death...
@@DA-js7xz I said "grief". You said "grief". Grief in general.
a real ass comment
Riker seems like the type of guy that would try to convince her to keep dating by emotionally manipulating her when he wants. Then he'd probably go back to being a shitty person when he gets her where he wants.
My ex was like this. And it's extremely hard to break out of the cycle.
Riker seems like the guy who has struggles but is in therapy and is attempting to get better.
Exactly
@@braylon4125 agreed
@@braylon4125 no lol
@@braylon4125 Rikers sounds like the type of guy who thinks that somehow justifies cheating on her whilst still dating (which somehow he didn't know they still were but after a proper break up is supposedly crying DAILY about her?). He also seems like the type of guy who thinks bein ''in therapy'' is somehow equal to being better, even though people who have been in therapy for 2+ years often aren't even better and it clearly means nothing based on his behaviour in this video alone. He also seems like the type of guy that thinks being abusive by taking out his anger ''around'' his girlfriend, aka most likely breaking things, is somehow justified and excused because he is ''in therapy''.
Riker is also the type of guy who thinks being ''listened to'' is equal to having someone be obedient and do whatever you want, as his only ''advice'' to his ex is that she should ''listen more when people beg you for something they really want", which has nothing to do with listening and more with the fact they didn't do specific ACTIONS that you wanted aka were not obedient.
Now, is all of this justified because he is a ''guy who struggles"? It's not, none of it is. Your baggage is yours, your significant other is not your therapist, and you being manipulative and borderline abusive is NOT ever gonna be justified by whether or not you have mental issues going on. That's a YOU problem.
how do they get people willing to do this
Money lol
People apply to get on this. They don't "get" people to do it
Everything for the money
How much do they pay?
@@GuitarHeroRocks99 yeah I guess a lot of people will find this hard to believe
ryker scares me.. i can already tell how toxic and manipulative he was. i hope amanda is in a great place rn far away from him.
when a women cries every1 of you say awwwwwww but when a men cry he is manipulative lol
Blink twice Miranda if you need help
I didn't see that. I saw it's still raw and painful.
Oh stop it
can you describe what ryker looks like?
Get people drunk and slowly feed them emotional questions. Love it
Ryker is kind of all over the place. I hope his therapy teaches his how to better regulate his emotions.
Miranda I'm rooting for you. You deserve the absolute best
Ryker is scaaaaaaaary! Definitely a massive manipulator. I saw it the moment he was pushing out that first tear. He deserves an award!
I can see it he's got some acting chops but people don't talk like that in situations like this,
And just for the record, they're all a huge pass in my book
Homie with the jack daniels shirt got a little tipsy and started telling her how he really felt. 😅
Ha you're right. People don't usually seem to actually get that noticably drunk on this show
@@wge621 well he was definitely one of the few that showed it on here 😂
Can't have that, men expressing their actual feelings 🙄
@@DaveWraptastic it’s nice when they do though lol
@@DaveWraptastic if i shake you i’d hear rattles in your mind
Are we all just going to ignore how beautiful Christian is?
LITERALLY I couldn’t stop staring at him
like a more beautiful asap rocky
@@girlsjustwannahavefun6960 less ashy version of him
Idk the subtitles said “Kristen“😂
It’s his eyes
Ryker just reminded me why I’m scared of men. It’s subtle but it’s unsettling.
No, you're just a misandrist.
@@Luke_2828men say that all the time
@@the-bill-cipher in a similar logic... Never leave your children alone with female nurses or midwives... It may be a very small number of them, but enough have been convicted for murdering children or babies 🤷♂️ guess we should treat them all the same!
@@Luke_2828 men quite literally say this all of the time lol, “my ex cheated on me so all girls are whores” etc
@@the-bill-ciphermost men dont say that lol. Thats a very illogical idea
From the question roughly 6 minutes in, Ryker is literally doing the most to perform how he thinks he’s meant to be acting 😒 girl you better RUN and remember you can do better and you will
The part where Ryker gives one word of advice and she counteracts clearly shows they are on different pages. He feels he wasn't validated/ listened to when he was at a very low point, whereas she thinks she did listen. I think they are both right in their own ways - she probably did listen and was there as much as she could be, but he needed more. And as painful as it is, its good they broke up because they are both better off finding someone who is on a better wavelength/page as each other.
Wishing everyone the best ❤
I hope his therapy helps too. It takes years but it can make a difference with the right practitioner.
This!!!!!
omg you’re right!!
We don’t know the full story. He seems to have taken a lot stuff out on her and she maybe had grown tired and built stronger boundaries
Yeah I agree, I think she did listen in her own way but I think it would have been beneficial to have asked him what she needs to do to feel heard, because despite the fact that she was listening there was still something he was missing to feel seen. The only way to know each others needs though is to properly communicate.
It's not the breakup that's difficult. It's the memories that follow, Whoever going through break up rn. Please never give up ❤️
Got dumped after 2 years of dating 4 years of him being my best friend about 2 weeks ago and girl I'm boutta give up ngl
@@rayfreeman6998 I got dumped by my fiancee after a year, that sucked for many, many months but after a while it does get better. I just started working on multiple businesses, hitting the gym harder and now my bank account and looks (and skin) have never been better. You have to turn your pain into motivation to do amazing things for yourself. Love is cool if it happens accordingly, but if it doesn't then I might as well take care of myself and my parents first. You'll get stronger out of this!
Just saw my ex photo on Facebook he got married last year
@@rayfreeman6998 It gets better trust me, but it's probably gonna mess you up for some time. Good luck 🥺❤️
It's the loss aswell, the emptiness
Once she said that about meeting someone as special as him, that was his cue. I feel like his tears were a manipulation tactic.
Christinan may still have feelings for Savanah at 9:08 they kissed before but a kiss after that real ass conversation would've definitely hit harder
This was beautiful but so so hard. My heart hurts for all of them. Break ups just suck no matter the case 😢
I don’t know whether to feel lucky that I’ve never had a breakup anywhere near this emotional, or sad that I’ve never been able to feel this intensely about anyone 😅
I've never had a bad breakup, or any breakup in general because I've never been in a relationship!
its always worth it when youre in the moment to bring mindfulness into the relationship and be grateful .
and with a name like @@Killbayne, it's incomprehensible!
jk, I hope you experience that if you want to
@@d.f.4830 and now I just experienced my first heartbreak with that remark 💔💔
thank you tho!!!
I've been through a break up that hurt me more than I thought I could hurt and now that I'm past that hurt the love I felt was well worth the pain of it not working out
what he said: ‘listen more’ ‘when someone is begging’ ‘do things that take effort’
what he meant: do exactly what i want when i want.
he’s a walking red flag
You think he's in therapy to have fun?
@@rsmith4407 Nobody is saying therapy is a 100% cure. But I am saying that he has acknowledged a problem and is showing that he is working to fix it. Yall are looking for every reason to hate rather than help. Yall are acting like yall have this guy completely figured out when you don't.
@@braylon4125 He showed nothing in these clips. All he showed is that he is a manipulative ass.
you said exactly what I was thinking. He definitely resents that she set boundaries. He wanted her to sacrifice her happiness for his and called it "not listening" when she stood up for herself.
Exactly!
Them drinks kickin in 5:56
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Im literally hollering cause u physically see the liqour kicking in fr 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The passive aggressive towards the girl in the Jean jacket was real🥲 she was so sweet
Yeah and the guy gives major dickhead vibes and then became a boo hoo bitvh boy when he got drunk 🙄 She deserves way better
@@marrionna044 ya his response and face to the hesitation in kissing him, reminded me of my ex🙃
@@christinescorner111 low key he manipulative I can tell.
They both seemed a little off
@@alexare6655 I don’t think he’s manipulative but broken. As it seems he can’t handle certain emotions and he bottles them up
Rikers performance was amazing lol 😭 he doesn’t even believe it himself he just wants to hang onto her.
I feel so sorry for the girl in the Jean Jacket, she was being manipulated with his passive aggressiveness.
"I don't know whether it's going to hurt me or not" Ryker: *shrugs*. Ryker earlier: drowning in sorrow. Also Ryker, when kissing her: arms folded, barely getting up from chair, zero reaction to the kiss.
Yeah idk how to describe him but I guess I’ll just say he somehow seems empty on an emotional level to me
Riker gives me crazy vibes…… like even when he was getting emotional
Miranda is clearly in an healtier place in life good for her
healthier
6:18 the guy is pouring his heart out and the background music is making it worse 😂😂
It's like watching mr bean doing goofy stuff and sad music playing
savannah and christian were so fun to watch i hope they’re both doing well :) ❤️
Both these ex couples seem like great people who just didn’t work out w each other. It was nice seeing Miranda comfort ryker when he started crying about how much he missed her and see him accept her hand for comfort. It’s the little things, it didn’t have to be a romantic gesture but a comforting one
He was literally the worst and those were not real tears lol
At 5:57 to right about at 6:48 , nearly all of us have felt that way. The realization that the future you dreamt with that person - the certainty of it and how sure you were that dreams would become reality - will now not happen ... you can hear it in the way he conveys his feelings and emotions. To his credit, he reminds us how fresh the breakup is, and wow, I remembered feeling the way he does in that part of this video.
As much as I loathe platitudes, Ryker: it will get better. Time has a funny way of working things out. My ex-wife and I were each others best friends; I never ever thought I would feel that way about someone else ever again. Turns out, 5 years later, someone else came along and made me feel alive again. Take your time, heal, learn from the past, and keep bettering yourself. With the right attitude and mindset, it gets better. Really hoping he overcomes the hurt. I felt that one deep.
Time has the funniest way of healing things.. love that you posted this and agree with it all. I, too, know that feeling of certainty about the future, especially when it comes to those I love. Planning things, imagining the future, simply daydreaming about whatever but always with them and you in mind, to not.. it's earth-shattering until you can breathe again knowing you're okay. Happy to read that love found you again :)
Y'all writing essays
Time heals all. Amazing how you can move on and barely remember the angst
@@odette-is-kinda-gay Tell everyone you can't read without telling everyone you can't read
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"When someone as special as you comes along". Ouch. I felt that.
Dude with the jack shirt made me SO irrationally angry in this. He is so emotionally manipulative it’s insane
getting major toxic musical theater kid energy from jack daniel's
Love Christian and Savannah's vibe. They seem like very cool people.
Watching Miranda and Riker together is... disturbing, good on her for setting some boundaries.
Yeah, because her listening in on his therapy session is totallyrespecting boundaries!
@@pinkkfloydd bro was in her house talking loud as hell brotha
she shouldn't have kissed him.
Seriously props to all these people. This is a level of vulnerability I be hesitant to show my family let alone a million people on the internet
Miranda and Ryker.... That was like a quality horror film; you keep thinking it can get no worse but it DOES.
Absolutely feel and sympathize for Miranda. Coming from a similar situation, I can’t imagine how much of a relief but also how painful that breakup must have been.
Riker’s ‘tears’ and dramatic speech just because Miranda started crying 😕
miranda and rykers situation is SO deja vu for me and i FEEL her urge to sob when he says she doesn’t listen or try enough.
Ryker reminds me of my mentally abusive ex boyfriend. Seems so sweet on the outside but when you dig deeper there's so much manipulation and gaslighting.
You can tell miranda is holding back what she really wants to say because of his issues with anger. The way they are is exactly how I was with my ex. I would agree with him just because if I felt differently to him he would get mad real quick. I wish her nothing but the best ❤
Women = always the victim, never the abuser.
I got straight up whiplash going from crying to laughing in this video
"Did you give D the D?"
"D got Declined"
LMAO
I REALLY HOPE MIRANDA SEES THESE COMMENTS AND KNOWS THAT WE ARE THERE FOR HER AND THAT SHE IS FINALLY FREE FROM HER ABUSIVE TOXIC NARCISSISTIC EX.
i feel like ryker wanted more than someone to listen, because this whole time she was so attentive and from the way they described things she always has been. she’s also very careful with her words, she really cares about him but he seems like he needs more time to heal from other things.
This showing up the same week as getting broken up with it just….
This is brutal
Mirnda deserves better i swear she's literally so sweet
For the couple with black shirt and dress: she mentioned he would "take out" his issues near her, he also just went a dated someone else while still living with her after a breakup. Seems like it wasn't very clear where they were but for me he seems a narcissist. He was overdoing the crying, I am not buying him. She really seemed very understanding to him but he wasn't giving the same.
omg right!! i got major manipulator vibes from him
Yes. But it was also odd that she became so defensive when he said she could listen more with all the 'that's so unfair I make so much effort'. I think there were times he tried to break down the barrier and she stonewalled hime.
Tell me you haven't interacted with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder without telling me.
I’m not buying his shit either
I hate when people who don’t know sht bout any of these people like to jump to weird ass conclusions based off nothing.
Seems like Ryker still can't take responsibility of his own emotions. But I personally feel that taking responsibility is not that easy as it sounds like, and requires a lot of brainstorming / self acceptance / and dealing with self hatred. Hope Ryker can find peace and finally find a great relationship.
9:13 I lover her. Her tone is very direct but you can tell she’s very confident, secure and also mature
ryker was trying to manipulate SO hard. he’s scary. i’m sorry miranda i hope you’re doing well
The dude went on a date with somebody else a WEEK after they maybe broke up. I do believe he needs a therapist, and I do believe that they both loved the idea of their relationship, but it is clear he didn't love her. For him to be in tears acting like she didn't try hard enough is just icky. I see my ex in him so much. I hope she finds somebody that truly deserves her.
(that kiss question with Miranda and Ryker): "yeah... i don't know...." "you don't know?" THE AUDACITY??
4 months late but the way Savannah and Christian handled this was nice. Yeah there might have been a lot of tension but they were able to talk through it and laugh and enjoy each other’s presents. Neither of them seem to be possessive over each other, but they still have that spark of friendliness in them that keeps the close (?)
when Riker described the relationship, he mentions and focuses on himself ("someone I have spent so much time with" ..., when I watch shows with you ..., I won't get to watch house of dragon"). he gives psychopathic vibes and she should have listened to gut about not wanting to kiss him.
isn’t psychopathic kind of outdated/ableist
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