This Is Our THIRD Brand New Land Rover Defender, But Will It Be Our Last?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • GIVE GIFT OF A TFL T-SHIRT! You know the truck and car lovers on your list want one. (www.duckco.com.... This is it - the third (and hopefully last) Land Rover Defender has arrived at the TFL base! Here's our latest update on the story so far and what our plans are for this Defender.
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Комментарии • 3,6 тыс.

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel 3 года назад +693

    IT IS A TFL CHRISTMAS MIRACLE

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 3 года назад +15

      It will be, if there are no more warnings that pop up!

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 3 года назад +21

      next episode, check engine light

    • @Craig-wp3pz
      @Craig-wp3pz 3 года назад +15

      'It's been a series.......'
      Does that make it a series three defender????
      🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👏
      Now want to see you put THE SAME 167 miles on it to see if that pesky light come back?

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 3 года назад +5

      @@Craig-wp3pz Hahaha,..good one! I believe it does.

    • @ducknorris233
      @ducknorris233 3 года назад +1

      And now feats of strength

  • @pomegranatepip2482
    @pomegranatepip2482 3 года назад +893

    Can you imagine the marketing folks at Land Rover watching this and praying that the bloody thing does not fail. 🤣😂🤣😂

    • @HansraRulez
      @HansraRulez 3 года назад +56

      That warning in middle of video, almost gave them heart attack. 😂😂

    • @scratchy996
      @scratchy996 3 года назад +18

      It can't not fail, it's a Land Rover :)

    • @UserUser-vo2ky
      @UserUser-vo2ky 3 года назад +25

      I'm British and I'd love to say buy British but Landrovers are crap man. Buy American. Not German (rust and electrics) Not Japanese (rust) but American. Had over 40 cars of various makes and thats my conclusion. Make if it as you will.

    • @Jesuosivwi
      @Jesuosivwi 3 года назад +1

      Pity full

    • @GuitarsRockForever
      @GuitarsRockForever 3 года назад +4

      To fail is what LR does.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 3 года назад +488

    When you ask for the “Tow Package” with a Rover you don’t realize they mean that it will get towed everywhere it has to go.

    • @matt9c1
      @matt9c1 3 года назад +19

      I thought the tow package was a lifetime subscription to AAA :)

    • @johnperry7534
      @johnperry7534 3 года назад +2

      Very clever !! Indeed

    • @fredbrackely
      @fredbrackely 3 года назад +1

      LOL

    • @adlibitumster
      @adlibitumster 3 года назад +2

      Somebody from JLR will call you about this.... LOL

    • @deansapp4635
      @deansapp4635 3 года назад +4

      The tow package includes a Front mounted hitch

  • @ClownSpass
    @ClownSpass 3 года назад +447

    Spoiler: that Lego Land Rover Defender will last 10x longer!!

    • @martinhawkes2823
      @martinhawkes2823 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, not only last longer but look's better aswell, I'm sure i saw somewhere one of the concept's actually looked more like that & that's why people were getting excited, but what turned out was the cotton wool version.

    • @tanssi2145
      @tanssi2145 3 года назад +23

      I just set my LEGO defender up and it already has a check engine light and leaking coolant

    • @danf321
      @danf321 3 года назад +2

      @@tanssi2145 Ha! Exactly!!

    • @iliasmoussaoui5076
      @iliasmoussaoui5076 3 года назад +1

      Literally! 😂

    • @robertlee9395
      @robertlee9395 3 года назад +4

      What an insult to Lego's!

  • @CokaRolla
    @CokaRolla 3 года назад +1443

    I didn’t even buy this thing and I have buyers remorse...

    • @howardsherback9503
      @howardsherback9503 3 года назад +26

      I just burst out laughing, uncontrollably !

    • @skywalk78none94
      @skywalk78none94 3 года назад +12

      Hahhahaha dude I’m dying tooo 😂

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne 3 года назад +57

      And if you were a normal average customer, you would have got way worse service. This issue would have dragged out 6 months at least.

    • @steved1880
      @steved1880 3 года назад +6

      LOL, thanks for the laugh. Needed that one....

    • @steved1880
      @steved1880 3 года назад +9

      @@mdbourne good point and I agree!

  • @gabrielgavilan5131
    @gabrielgavilan5131 3 года назад +507

    The Lego one is going to be your most reliable defender for sure!

  • @jonesjones7057
    @jonesjones7057 3 года назад +186

    We all know what next week's video will be:
    "OK guys we can't make this up..."

    • @nunya9555
      @nunya9555 3 года назад

      Or it will be a glowing review of amazing offroad performance. But in every shot a winch line can be seen pulling it up a hill, with poorly added (vroom vroom) engine sounds! What a wonderful SUV, sounds a bit like a Harley though!

  • @steved1880
    @steved1880 3 года назад +446

    The most reliable component of a Land Rover/Range Rover is the check engine light.

    • @beer3029
      @beer3029 3 года назад +6

      LOL!!!

    • @solgudman1439
      @solgudman1439 3 года назад +7

      That is the truth and very funny

    • @solgudman1439
      @solgudman1439 3 года назад +4

      Wow a Land Rover bag did the handles fall off Wow Lego set does it come with the tow truck Lego kit as well..

    • @steved1880
      @steved1880 3 года назад +3

      @@solgudman1439 the bag is big enough to hold the diagnostic equipment, emergency cones and flairs. LOL

    • @mightyfella
      @mightyfella 3 года назад +4

      @@solgudman1439 I bed that Lego version would be much more reliable

  • @BadDriversOfTheIllawarra
    @BadDriversOfTheIllawarra 3 года назад +470

    Tommy: "The 4 cylinder was perfect!"
    Dad: "It had a check engine light after 167 miles."
    Tommy: *Looks at camera like hes in The Office*

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 3 года назад +8

      Jim

    • @Robert.Axelrod
      @Robert.Axelrod 3 года назад +6

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @tmanepic
      @tmanepic 3 года назад +14

      That killed the argument fast!

    • @ohhhtag
      @ohhhtag 3 года назад +17

      Roman is right though. Why would you buy another 4 cylinder and risk it being broken for another 3 months?

    • @91lrrrc
      @91lrrrc 3 года назад +11

      @@ohhhtag The 6 cylinder shares the same architecture as the 4 cylinder tho. Same engine design with 2 more cylinders and a MHEV system connected to engine.

  • @collinhopper7542
    @collinhopper7542 3 года назад +11

    TFL's review of the Defender is actually the most accurate representation of Land Rover ownership. Most people that own a LR product own multiple vehicles, that way, when the LR goes to the dealership, they have something else to drive.

  • @Nightakula
    @Nightakula 3 года назад +300

    The way more equipped Defender is somehow much less interesting than the base one

    • @marioman971
      @marioman971 3 года назад +14

      Yeah, sounds like Tommy felt the same way about it... But given what they've already gone through they needed something lol

    • @marioman971
      @marioman971 3 года назад +6

      I like the inline 6, would like to see a locker. But eh. Take what you can get at this point

    • @TemoTemo1995
      @TemoTemo1995 3 года назад +8

      why do you need defender if it does not even has rear locker

    • @kylehamm7287
      @kylehamm7287 3 года назад +11

      I feel the same way. I wish they would have ordered one and waited the 3 months. This is ehhhhhhh

    • @mattiagnagno757
      @mattiagnagno757 3 года назад +3

      I agree

  • @dommm111
    @dommm111 3 года назад +222

    My heart literally stops when Tommy said warning message. It stops and now I need a cup of green tea

    • @dazzlingd
      @dazzlingd 3 года назад +36

      In the Land Rover, it's called the Terminator light. "I'll be back..."

    • @acdimitriu
      @acdimitriu 3 года назад +4

      @@dazzlingd get to the chopper... it's not a tumor

    • @yalcharan
      @yalcharan 3 года назад

      @@dazzlingd epic quote

    • @rubyl3284
      @rubyl3284 3 года назад +9

      JLR’s PR team just nearly had an aneurism

  • @4xoverland
    @4xoverland 3 года назад +186

    But that's not the car you paid for. You bought the basic model because it was the basic model you wanted - and needed to complete your project. You can no longer do what you wanted to. But you're spinning this as a plus, which is okay. But deep down, I think you know it isn't. I for one, am let down.

    • @YusufPetersenCPT
      @YusufPetersenCPT 3 года назад +8

      OOOooooooooo i feel the same that zing for the basic one is gone now. For one no steel wheels.

    • @hypergarage8595
      @hypergarage8595 3 года назад +7

      precisely what I was thinking.

    • @bobsuzy1
      @bobsuzy1 3 года назад +11

      Agreed, they should have paid full price or their much vaunted independence goes out the door. But, unlike many other youtubers, they did disclose the details of the deal. Either way, that heap of British junk won’t make it to 1,000 miles without breaking down. The suspension warning light is a sign of things to come.

    • @MatthewTafoya
      @MatthewTafoya 3 года назад +5

      Agreed , we were all tuning to see a real off-roader do off road things. NOW it s LUX roader doing 'SOME' off road things. Land Rover is the only winner in this saga...

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 3 года назад +8

      Agreed. And where's the winch?

  • @yotagang3705
    @yotagang3705 3 года назад +88

    I love how Tommy doesnt hide his distain for the new luxury Defender like a Dad who gets his son the gift on xmas and the kid says this is not the one I wanted but the dad continues to convince him how great it is😂

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 3 года назад +32

    The most important thing I have learned from your videos is that if you are going to buy a Rover product you better have a big time RUclips channel so you can get upgraded after everything breaks.

    • @TheMari189
      @TheMari189 3 года назад +1

      That finally explains Doug Demuro’s purchase!!

  • @smsetty
    @smsetty 3 года назад +154

    Fun Fact: Even the lego model of the Defender has a transmission issue 😂

    • @garage779
      @garage779 3 года назад +9

      come's with its own engine light.

    • @ChuckRage
      @ChuckRage 3 года назад +21

      Lego really going to great lengths to ensure an authentic experience

    • @D_2_M
      @D_2_M 3 года назад +4

      @@ChuckRage heritage experience.

    • @wildnwheeling3042
      @wildnwheeling3042 3 года назад +6

      I bet a child can install a lego winch without issue

  • @bgehsen
    @bgehsen 3 года назад +184

    Roman: Tommy floor it.
    Tommy: No dad I dont wanna break it.
    😂😂😂

    • @jessyjohnson3919
      @jessyjohnson3919 3 года назад +1

      He should bang it like a baddy...nasty style shi

    • @bgehsen
      @bgehsen 3 года назад

      @WesleyTommy sounds like a brat to me lol

    • @ryanb4777
      @ryanb4777 3 года назад +1

      @@bgehsen kind of a tacky thing to say lol

    • @bgehsen
      @bgehsen 3 года назад +2

      @Wesley yea i felt the same way. Tommy is mostly negative abt change. Roman was excited and happy they got an SE model when they paid for a base model but Tommy was whinging abt the 2.0 turbo engine and base model. I don't dislike Tommy but at times he gets to me

    • @bgehsen
      @bgehsen 3 года назад

      @@ryanb4777 lol.

  • @matthelm4666
    @matthelm4666 3 года назад +162

    Orders rock climber... ends up with grocery getter, lego's, and a stylish travel bag. Gold star.

  • @silverstake88
    @silverstake88 3 года назад +58

    Matt's off road recovery....
    "So, we got a call..."

    • @platec4798
      @platec4798 3 года назад +1

      F--k! I burst out laughing! I love it!
      Plate [C]

    • @romeoalphafoxtrot9517
      @romeoalphafoxtrot9517 3 года назад +1

      Yea. They probably have him on speed dial!

    • @7saxby
      @7saxby 3 года назад +1

      OMG...... Now this is funny 🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂

  • @2packs4sure
    @2packs4sure 3 года назад +46

    Man,,,,,, I laughed SO hard when that warning popped up that I had tears in my eyes,, MADE MY MORNIN' !! lol

    • @chanshuwun
      @chanshuwun 3 года назад +1

      Me too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @henkstols9326
      @henkstols9326 3 года назад

      I would still notify the workshop, because the hi-tech of this new model means its one message away from being broken.

    • @2packs4sure
      @2packs4sure 3 года назад +2

      @@henkstols9326 One message away from being broken,,,,,,,,, lol,,,,, it's was BUILT broken and on it's best day ever it will be "slightly" broken...

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 3 года назад +179

    “What else could possibly go wrong”. Probably about 4 seasons worth of episodes.

    • @wingding028
      @wingding028 3 года назад +4

      another 2 cylinders

    • @martycavassa
      @martycavassa 3 года назад +7

      "What else could possibly go wrong?" JLR: "Hold my beer..."

    • @NextAdventureATV
      @NextAdventureATV 3 года назад

      They made a couple bucks for this defender series win win

    • @jonesjones7057
      @jonesjones7057 3 года назад +3

      It already threw a quick suspension code glitch while sitting still. I know there's growing pains but YIKES! That was a prelude of things to come.

    • @enterBJ40
      @enterBJ40 3 года назад

      JLR : hold my warm pint of beer from my Lucas refrigerator

  • @theoonesite
    @theoonesite 3 года назад +33

    You know it's bad when you build a relationship with your mechanic good enough for him to buy you a lego kit.

  • @TK-kq7pg
    @TK-kq7pg 3 года назад +207

    "Well, it doesn´t have a locker but look at these cup holders!"

    • @josephndazi5863
      @josephndazi5863 3 года назад +17

      That locker is going to be really missed offroad 😁😁

    • @LafemmebearMusic
      @LafemmebearMusic 3 года назад +3

      @@josephndazi5863 idunno ive driven off road in a working one of these that was an x and let me tell you that terrain response mode system... I dont understand how it defys logic...we climbed over some small boulders and went up nearly 40 percent grades in wet rain thick deep mud... it just went up it...

    • @mhalley5
      @mhalley5 3 года назад

      Land Rover in 2020

    • @josephndazi5863
      @josephndazi5863 3 года назад +1

      @@mhalley5 its got more options than a smart phone.
      Drive system very complicated

    • @calsurflance5598
      @calsurflance5598 3 года назад +6

      Those cup holders will come in handy when they are stuck in the weeds.

  • @Checkerz-le7rs
    @Checkerz-le7rs 3 года назад +35

    Amazing you got 160 trouble free miles from the first one! I'm truly blown away

    • @simonlloyd7557
      @simonlloyd7557 3 года назад +3

      it was even better than that..167 miles!

  • @paulpearce172
    @paulpearce172 3 года назад +52

    Disappointed, no diff locker, no winch, you compromised for a "Chelsea Tractor" as we say in the UK.

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman 3 года назад +32

    So they went from a base 4 cylinder with steelies (that I was actually interested in), to this $71K luxury 6 cylinder that isn't an offroad vehicle, and Land Rover basically bribed them with $16K. So now there is no one on youtube or the media that can show the 4 cylinder and all we know is that the 4 cylinder had a check engine light at less than 200 miles and was shit right out of the factory.

    • @Craig-wp3pz
      @Craig-wp3pz 3 года назад +2

      The only one I could possibly afford is the base 90, 4 banger with no added toys, so was watching with interest, :-/
      JLR Saw the video views and slipped them an upgrade to quieten them down!
      Really want 2 see a 4pot 110, in action as I need the space even if I can't afford it! 🤔
      But would be removing everything behind the 3 front seats to turn it into a van shell

    • @alexsystems2001
      @alexsystems2001 3 года назад

      I know me too, this was an exciting series, but I kind of lost interest a bit. I probably won’t be following up.

  • @seansangvannguyen9266
    @seansangvannguyen9266 3 года назад +98

    It's nice that the engineer gave you a lego set that's more durable than the actual vehicle.

    • @mariowhyte2816
      @mariowhyte2816 3 года назад +6

      This is so true it's hilarious!!!

    • @calsurflance5598
      @calsurflance5598 3 года назад +5

      It will give them something to do while the vehicle is in the shop.

    • @bryanclark3739
      @bryanclark3739 3 года назад +4

      Should have given TFL “Free Towing for Life”.

    • @brvaughan
      @brvaughan 3 года назад +3

      So true, what a POS

    • @13x
      @13x 3 года назад +2

      Waiting to hear how many parts were missing from the lego set.

  • @picodoc8001
    @picodoc8001 3 года назад +82

    You should start a pool: "How long before it goes into the shop." LOL

    • @michelt4390
      @michelt4390 3 года назад +3

      Well, they're already having random error msg about the suspension on start-up... I don't think it will make it before the end of 2020 before it's next dealership visit...

    • @robertlee9395
      @robertlee9395 3 года назад

      One week.
      Damn! I went over!

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 3 года назад

      Who owns Land Rover? They have garbage reliability.

    • @romeoalphafoxtrot9517
      @romeoalphafoxtrot9517 3 года назад

      Or maybe some kind of drinking game.

    • @robertlee9395
      @robertlee9395 3 года назад

      @@romeoalphafoxtrot9517 I'm dead.

  • @bpeeps00
    @bpeeps00 3 года назад +157

    When you buy a $70k car and have to cross your fingers and say “please work” I think that says something...

    • @hypergarage8595
      @hypergarage8595 3 года назад

      exactly.

    • @numbnutz9398
      @numbnutz9398 3 года назад +11

      Ya it says buy a Landcruiser

    • @bpeeps00
      @bpeeps00 3 года назад +1

      @@numbnutz9398 100% 👏

    • @docsaaab
      @docsaaab 3 года назад

      Do you remember all the Lucas Elektric jokes....
      Lord of darkness?

    • @mikevadvilavich1414
      @mikevadvilavich1414 3 года назад

      I almost fell out of my chair laughing when the suspension failure light came on! Something tells me that warning will be back - probably up in the mountains.

  • @nathanielcargile7135
    @nathanielcargile7135 3 года назад +25

    It’s amazing that father and son can work together in the same company as a team. It’s a beautiful thing, honestly. Thank you for setting the example of how families are supposed to be.

    • @craiglutska2850
      @craiglutska2850 3 года назад

      Exactly!

    • @theruleoffire
      @theruleoffire 3 года назад

      Actually the whole dad/ tommy talk is annoying. It why I rather have Andre and tommy together. The tit for tat back and forth looses its flare after an hour. What I “do” appreciate it the perspective from two different age groups.

  • @t.m.6505
    @t.m.6505 3 года назад +178

    18 mins of convincing themselves that “yeah it’s good!”

    • @jordanjohnson5784
      @jordanjohnson5784 3 года назад +8

      Exactly... I'm just not interested anymore. I liked the white one 1000x more. 😣

    • @cd9504
      @cd9504 3 года назад

      @@jordanjohnson5784 time to cut the boomer from the channel

  • @mustangs107
    @mustangs107 3 года назад +43

    I’m with Tommy on this one. The whole point was testing the 4. Everyone else already tested the 6.

    • @daltontrum83
      @daltontrum83 3 года назад +2

      Agree 100%

    • @aribloch
      @aribloch 3 года назад +3

      They tested the 4 already

    • @mustangs107
      @mustangs107 3 года назад

      @@aribloch for 1 day. So are we just to assume all 4s are bad???

    • @aribloch
      @aribloch 3 года назад

      @@mustangs107 I mean, no but yes. It would be different if land rover fixed it easily...
      I bet they wanted the more expensive one because it was free + would hold value better than the 4 cylinder

    • @mustangs107
      @mustangs107 3 года назад

      @@aribloch that’s kind of the point. If they would have gotten another 4 to see if it had the same issues.

  • @FlyingScud
    @FlyingScud 3 года назад +95

    As a Brit, I am watching this closely! You: "No winch?" Dealer: "Don't even go there!"

    • @timoliver8940
      @timoliver8940 3 года назад +4

      Dealer “go watch the PowerfulUK Channel if you want a winch”

    • @Craig-wp3pz
      @Craig-wp3pz 3 года назад +2

      UK2 And I'm still waiting to see one with a snorkel and some mud on it!!!

    • @BionicRusty
      @BionicRusty 3 года назад +2

      Another Brit here watching intensely 😃

    • @1mikeclay1
      @1mikeclay1 3 года назад +4

      I installed a winch and Aussie bull bar on my 2020 Defender - works flawlessly, no issues.

    • @richardhaywood4123
      @richardhaywood4123 3 года назад +1

      The real defender stopped in 2016,even then the tdci engine was self distructing!lol Better off with a kia.

  • @Fouxdufafafafafa
    @Fouxdufafafafafa 3 года назад +85

    I almost died laughing when he said this "directly competes" with the Land Cruiser. hahahahahahaha

    • @kelvinwarburton6094
      @kelvinwarburton6094 3 года назад +23

      No they will need to take a landcruiser with them to tow the landrover back to the dealer.

    • @Radi0he4d1
      @Radi0he4d1 3 года назад +3

      in the price department maybe lol

    • @nunya9555
      @nunya9555 3 года назад +11

      I agree. The least reliable 4wd made does in no way compete with the most reliable vehicle of any type ever made: Land Cruiser

    • @lifeinrussia1991
      @lifeinrussia1991 3 года назад +5

      There is no comparison - anyone who knows anything about cars knows to buy the Toyota and to leave the Land Rover well alone!

    • @sethlucc9469
      @sethlucc9469 2 года назад

      Like we say in Australia
      If you want to go 4x4 buy a land rover but if you want to comeback buy a land cruiser.

  • @jasoncapecod
    @jasoncapecod 3 года назад +39

    I am anti lease. That would be a vehicle you would lease. I can’t imagine the repair bills after the warranty expires.

    • @mkejake6673
      @mkejake6673 3 года назад +2

      I am pro-lease since I like vehicles with warranty's and get bored with vehicles. I would never lease a Land Rover. Who wants to make any sort of payments on a vehicle that spends a good chunk of its time in the shop? I mean, Jag's are pretty but the same deal. I'd never lease one. Maybe a rental for a weekend where I had no pressing timeline and can wait for a tow. :)

    • @brianaustin1328
      @brianaustin1328 3 года назад

      I lease my daily driver (currently a Civic Sport hatch with a 6M) and own my weekend truck (currently a 2004 Honda Pilot). There is room in the world for both.

    • @stanleymomys
      @stanleymomys 3 года назад

      After the warranty/lease period the only buyers will be clowns in a circus looking for a new ride for their act.

  • @underthelibertytree712
    @underthelibertytree712 3 года назад +50

    I predict the Lego Defender will drive more trouble free miles than the blue Pretender will.

    • @garage779
      @garage779 3 года назад

      The Lego's are to keep them busy while their waiting for Matt's Towing to fish them out of the mall parking lot.

  • @solfest9508
    @solfest9508 3 года назад +136

    To be honest, by this point, I've kinda lost interest. Already proved that it's not a vehicle you could rely on off road, it's just another lifestyle SUV.

    • @jdd1224
      @jdd1224 3 года назад +16

      it's reliable off road literally. On a lift for repairs.

    • @LGaragem
      @LGaragem 3 года назад +7

      Yeah, tow truck lifestyle SUV.

    • @Shawn_Magara
      @Shawn_Magara 3 года назад +7

      Agreed lost interest over a month ago. Ready for a bronco

    • @MatthewTafoya
      @MatthewTafoya 3 года назад +1

      I literally Yawned when I saw another LUX SUV going to do SOME off road stuff. Land Rover motto should be "off road light"

    • @kevs2good133
      @kevs2good133 3 года назад +1

      @@jdd1224 it’s reliable off road. Off road being on a lift getting repairs done.

  • @kaox44
    @kaox44 3 года назад +258

    Non-RUclipsr like most of us will NEVER get the same treatment...NEVER. let alone a lego toy.

    • @DoctorSkillz
      @DoctorSkillz 3 года назад +19

      It’s true. I can guarantee JLR would return the car even with the problems and tell the customer it’s a normal behavior.

    • @phillipberk5767
      @phillipberk5767 3 года назад +8

      @@DoctorSkillz yep it is true, that is the type of treatment I get with my F-type

    • @theshadypilot
      @theshadypilot 3 года назад +2

      JLR gave my friend and I both a Lego Def and the latest Go Pro's Hero's...

    • @alanoakley3242
      @alanoakley3242 3 года назад +6

      The Pre-delivery Inspection on this one probably took the same number of days as the rest of us would get minutes

    • @mrswinkyuk
      @mrswinkyuk 3 года назад +4

      Get a better dealer. I've had good and bad experiences....from ALL makes.

  • @mariusswart7257
    @mariusswart7257 3 года назад +8

    I am glad Landrover came to the party. Shows they are willing to go the extra mile to get things done and keeping the client happy. Well done both parties.

    • @smythie888
      @smythie888 3 года назад +1

      Because this client has a you tube channel with millions of viewers and JLR’s reputation is at stake.

    • @mariusswart7257
      @mariusswart7257 3 года назад +1

      @@smythie888 I hear you, but never was anyone badmouthed or anything. Just straightup with all the facts. This had the potential to go south real quick but didn't. Glad it worked out.

  • @davidnalls8628
    @davidnalls8628 3 года назад +55

    I’m with Tommy. This isn’t the same kind of project.

    • @MrNotgoth
      @MrNotgoth 3 года назад +5

      I mean the base model Defender project ended already. The conclusion is that you have a high chance of getting a lemon!

    • @Bayfire-ki9du
      @Bayfire-ki9du 3 года назад +2

      @@MrNotgoth How is that the conclusion? They only get one base defender and it was a lemon. You can't say it is a high chance if they never got another.

    • @redzoom7857
      @redzoom7857 3 года назад

      But on the other hand they are testing the sort that most people would actually buy. A rare person is gonna order the bare bones model.

  • @forgetfulduck
    @forgetfulduck 3 года назад +65

    Forget it, by this stage the relationship with this brand would be well below dead if it were your average consumer.

    • @ModelA
      @ModelA 3 года назад +4

      That's right. I would have gone to a Ford or Chevy etc. by now.

    • @ricardomoyer3251
      @ricardomoyer3251 3 года назад +7

      @@ModelA so you can get another faulty truck? No way! I’d go straight for a 4runner

    • @ModelA
      @ModelA 3 года назад +3

      @@ricardomoyer3251 That would be a good choice

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 3 года назад +1

      @@ricardomoyer3251 Fords are pretty reliable.

    • @kyle8523
      @kyle8523 3 года назад

      Ford and Chevy trucks have decent reliability.

  • @luke78333
    @luke78333 3 года назад +39

    "I don't want to floor it, I don't want to break it dad!" This says a lot. 16:13

    • @MilGrip76
      @MilGrip76 2 года назад

      IKR? Have 'floored' my Audi hundreds of times, still no breaky-breaky.

  • @lonelyfarmer
    @lonelyfarmer 3 года назад +18

    You can see Tommy's frustration since this series started going downhill. You feel the pain in his voice. =)

  • @josephwhiskeybeale
    @josephwhiskeybeale 3 года назад +128

    Ngl the white base Defender was perfect, this one is what Karen would drive down Rodeo drive.

    • @salami99
      @salami99 3 года назад +4

      Well its too bad land rover makes it impossible to get one. Like a 30$k tesla model3 it exists but they wont sell it

    • @Stackali
      @Stackali 3 года назад

      no thats the x

  • @Stargate971
    @Stargate971 3 года назад +108

    Lol, that suspension fault was a teaser for "more to come"

  • @RangerDanger303
    @RangerDanger303 3 года назад +30

    Poor Tommy looks so upset and beat down. You can tell he definitely lost the inter-office argument.... #TeamTommy

  • @RysterARCEE
    @RysterARCEE 3 года назад +200

    "Where do we go from here?"
    Probably back to the dealer soon.

  • @rubenbraekman4515
    @rubenbraekman4515 3 года назад +142

    Next video: "The 3rd Land Rovers engine light is on..."

    • @ethanol1586
      @ethanol1586 3 года назад +9

      Next video after that "we got a 4th defender"

    • @56585656587
      @56585656587 3 года назад +5

      Hey at least that’s one thing you can count on in a Range Rover.

    • @iwontpostvideos6
      @iwontpostvideos6 3 года назад +5

      Kudos to Land Rover for not charging you for the upgraded version. It was the right thing to do.

    • @petermcmullin8464
      @petermcmullin8464 3 года назад +2

      @@ethanol1586 more like "the 7th defender is orange?"

    • @NSW2040
      @NSW2040 3 года назад +4

      The "Take It Back & Buy A Toyota" light just came on ....

  • @croaker4747
    @croaker4747 3 года назад +4

    I really wanted one of these, but I came to my senses and remembered that I swore I’d never buy another Land Rover. I bought a LC Heritage Edition instead. Not as many screens, but everything works, and will continue to work.

  • @Followthelemming
    @Followthelemming 3 года назад +16

    Nice interior. You will be comfortable waiting for the tow truck.

    • @verliebt3465
      @verliebt3465 3 года назад

      that's why they got the big bag, to store food and water untill the tow truck arrives.

  • @gffriedman
    @gffriedman 3 года назад +187

    JLR is trying their hardest to bribe you without actually bribing you

    • @darranblackwell4630
      @darranblackwell4630 3 года назад +6

      Oddly, TFL took the bribe as well !!!
      Al for the public interest of course !!!!!!!!!!
      I guess the upshot is, JLR can't make a reliable base model and simply would prefer not to.
      It seems then that JLR are now fully committed to the luxury end buyer, all other users need not apply !!!

    • @lastminutesolutions
      @lastminutesolutions 3 года назад

      3 row P400 is a pretty good bribe :)

  • @LexPena
    @LexPena 3 года назад +50

    Tommy: let us know what you'll like to see for the next video
    Me: I want to see the LR make it to its first oil change under its own power lol

    • @zelenizub2036
      @zelenizub2036 3 года назад +4

      Let's set little more realistic goal. Maybe be still on the first engine....

    • @nunya9555
      @nunya9555 3 года назад +1

      @@zelenizub2036. For sure. Baby steps

  • @flamingoaviation
    @flamingoaviation 3 года назад +56

    A very smart mechanic once said to me, “ before machines break, they whisper to you”.

    • @calsurflance5598
      @calsurflance5598 3 года назад +6

      As a retired aircraft mechanic I say Very True!!
      And you’d better listen!!

    • @flamingoaviation
      @flamingoaviation 3 года назад +6

      @@calsurflance5598 it was an aircraft mechanic who told me that! I guess that’s a mantra for you all....

    • @calsurflance5598
      @calsurflance5598 3 года назад +6

      Art Scholl once said if an airplane starts making noises you cannot locate,get rid of it, because it will kill you. He was killed filming Top Gun.

  • @djcoronel
    @djcoronel 3 года назад +22

    i look forward to watching things break during this series 🤣

  • @mathyoubuggin
    @mathyoubuggin 3 года назад +32

    “Maybe we’re good.”
    The mantra of Land Rover owners.

  • @lees7a
    @lees7a 3 года назад +13

    Glad you got that 'suspension error detected' on camera. It will be back some day. Hopefully not too soon!

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt 3 года назад +1

      Some expensive vehicles with air suspension will lower down when the door is open to ease ingress/egress. If this has that I'm wondering if it got confused because the passenger door was open.

    • @louissmith6074
      @louissmith6074 3 года назад +3

      If you play with the air suspension to much with out the engine running you will get this message. Its just air tank needing to be filled.

  • @crazygooseventures
    @crazygooseventures 3 года назад +82

    Famous last words, “what else could possibly go wrong?”

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 3 года назад +2

      I think for a viewer standpoint, it will be hilarious if this one had problems. Not for TFL though.

    • @RustbeltBlues
      @RustbeltBlues 3 года назад

      Along with "I think we're good" and "please work."

  • @Igneshto
    @Igneshto 3 года назад +7

    "It had a check engine light after 167 miles"
    Oof
    I felt that burn all the way from Israel!

  •  3 года назад +34

    Glad to see finally you got a Defender. Though, it also means there’s no “affordable” Defender and that the 2L engine is basically useless.

  • @macoyupadoodle
    @macoyupadoodle 3 года назад +19

    That initial warning is an omen for things to come

  • @sundevilkdaddy
    @sundevilkdaddy 3 года назад +15

    Funny when the check engine light came on the Sirius radio was playing “Lose my Head”.

    • @timlong1462
      @timlong1462 3 года назад +1

      Rüfüs du sol! If you haven’t listened to them, you should give it a shot.

    • @rodwilliams7763
      @rodwilliams7763 3 года назад

      Except it wasn't a Check Engine light. No indication what the suspension message was caused by. On one of my cars, if I try to drive it over 31mph with the front lift engaged, I get a suspension error message too. smh

  • @buckhorncortez
    @buckhorncortez 3 года назад +68

    This vehicle will be perfect for your new project - "To the mall and back"...

  • @1NG_
    @1NG_ 3 года назад +43

    The Lego Defender, once assembled, will be the most reliable ever of all Defenders JLR ever built

    • @clooperman3745
      @clooperman3745 3 года назад +1

      Had a Defender 90" Td5 from new, 100% reliable from new, rust on the frame wasthe main reason for selling it, hope the new Defender 90" Commercial is better!

    • @misterminister3858
      @misterminister3858 3 года назад +1

      @@clooperman3745 the new one will not rust because it will never be able to leave the garage due to some issues

    • @nunya9555
      @nunya9555 3 года назад +1

      @@misterminister3858. Hey, that is a bit misleading. I am certain it will rust while in the garage!

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 3 года назад +303

    Now you're stuck with 19" or 20" wheels, no rear locker, and are driving just a bougie basic SUV.

    • @lr._ry
      @lr._ry 3 года назад +4

      it has the offroad package

    • @gregmach8230
      @gregmach8230 3 года назад +41

      It’s the Off (to the mall) Road Package, not quite the same as the Off (to the mountain) Road Package.

    • @khondkerjamil39
      @khondkerjamil39 3 года назад +11

      Let's call it mall road package.

    • @itayrada
      @itayrada 3 года назад +10

      @@lr._ry without the rear diff lock.... what a shame to LR

    • @davidnalls8628
      @davidnalls8628 3 года назад +16

      I’m less interested in this defender.

  • @kdrguru
    @kdrguru 3 года назад +62

    That overnight bag will be useful when stranded on Cinnamon Pass.

    • @robsea8088
      @robsea8088 3 года назад +2

      😂🤣

    • @frankcourtney6413
      @frankcourtney6413 3 года назад +4

      And you can use the time waiting for the tow truck by building the lego set.

    • @sirmingusdewiv8325
      @sirmingusdewiv8325 3 года назад

      Are you claiming this won't be reliable??? ***gasp*** 🤪

  • @TimDuncan21Rules
    @TimDuncan21Rules 3 года назад +1

    I'm happy for you guys! I know its not the one yall expected, but what a nice upgrade from Land Rover. They did the right thing on their part, well done. I'll still be watching every video on the Defender yall make.

  • @jaronshelton4124
    @jaronshelton4124 3 года назад +121

    I think it’s safe to say that anyone who doesn’t have a popular RUclips channel should NOT buy a defender.

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 3 года назад +175

    Old in Landrover terms: 2 months.
    Old for Lexus: 12 years

    • @Craig-wp3pz
      @Craig-wp3pz 3 года назад +8

      The old ones ARE better, mines 26 years old and been to Africa, and back to the UK at least 3 times, as well as Morocco,Spain Italy, and it's still my daily driver
      TDi 300, won't be changing for a new one, as soon as they heard me say Africa, they DECLINED to sell me one, so if JLR doesn't have any faith in it, I REALLY can't justify having the new one, think it'll be another engine and 'box if a few years to keep it on the road, cos there still is NO VIABLE REPLACEMENT, unless I want to drive a toyota

    • @pimpplayboy5727
      @pimpplayboy5727 3 года назад +2

      Both are very ugly vehicles

    • @OGcottoncandyrandy
      @OGcottoncandyrandy 3 года назад +12

      20 years* my gx470 is still flawless 15 years and 200k miles in.

    • @johnpaulonyeama9931
      @johnpaulonyeama9931 3 года назад

      @@Craig-wp3pz lol thats an odd one i live in afria and any car i wnt they happily deliver

    • @Craig-wp3pz
      @Craig-wp3pz 3 года назад +3

      @@pimpplayboy5727 I'm in it, so I don't have to look at it!! just the discomfort to contend with, when they make something worthy to replace it, I'll buy it, Toyota's may be reliable, but but God they're dull!!! where's the fun in that? 🔧🔩
      Got 'Wallace and Gromet cartoons painted on it distract from the old school looks!!
      Can't do much more than that! Sorry

  • @musicISlyf1
    @musicISlyf1 3 года назад +19

    Wonder if an average buyer would have gotten the same treatment from LR/Dealership.

    • @wolfman9999999
      @wolfman9999999 3 года назад +8

      No

    • @numbereightyseven
      @numbereightyseven 3 года назад +3

      Nope.

    • @michelt4390
      @michelt4390 3 года назад +3

      Average buyer would (hopefully) had the common sens to turn-it in after the 1st dead one...

    • @XerxezsX
      @XerxezsX 3 года назад

      Heck No, the dealer would have "fixed"(let it drag on) it for years until it's out of warranty.

  • @valz2167
    @valz2167 3 года назад +120

    Land Rover/Range Rover has only one reliable feature is "check engine" light.

    • @EricaMTB
      @EricaMTB 3 года назад +7

      This model has a digital check engine light. Probably to make it unreliable

  • @rvrnnr987
    @rvrnnr987 3 года назад +24

    3/4 of the way through the video and I'm thinking, 'They're scared to drive it!'

  • @dietrichris
    @dietrichris 3 года назад +21

    Tommy: If anything breaks we’ll be the first to let you know.
    Roman: Sure...

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 3 года назад +34

    12:27 this one made it 161 miles before it threw a fault code.

  • @nordicwolf8808
    @nordicwolf8808 3 года назад +6

    And we appreciate the fact that you guys are really transparent with us, the viewers. A trait lost by so many. Respect for all of u @TFL 👍

  • @CorySpears1978
    @CorySpears1978 3 года назад +13

    We bought another Land Rover after the last one lasted 160 miles.... Everyone that is watching this video is trying to process exactly why anyone would ever do that....

    • @kelvinhill9874
      @kelvinhill9874 3 года назад +2

      Cory Spears they didn’t buy it. This is a replacement vehicle from JLR.

    • @Jason-cw6ws
      @Jason-cw6ws 3 года назад +1

      They still had to buy it. It wasnt free

    • @jaybeemhardscrote7466
      @jaybeemhardscrote7466 3 года назад +1

      @@Jason-cw6ws they bought the first one, this one is worth $16,000 more and they did not have to pay the difference.

    • @kelvinhill9874
      @kelvinhill9874 3 года назад +1

      Jason no, they bought the first one and this one is a replacement vehicle. They didn’t pay anything for this one. They only bought and paid for one vehicle.

    • @XerxezsX
      @XerxezsX 3 года назад

      😂

  • @Andrew-nr9nx
    @Andrew-nr9nx 3 года назад +11

    TFL Defender review so far:
    2.0 litre 4 cylinder - good for 167 miles.
    Looking forward to the 6 cylinder review!

  • @stevenking3222
    @stevenking3222 3 года назад +59

    Unfortunately what was gonna be an interesting series is just another defender review

    • @ModelA
      @ModelA 3 года назад +2

      Yep

    • @SM-wt8gd
      @SM-wt8gd 3 года назад +4

      Exactly. I have no interest in a super expensive defender with 20" wheels

    • @francois3991
      @francois3991 3 года назад +3

      Yeah basically TFL was bribed by luxury options. JLR used this perfectly to their advantage. Every Defender reviewed thus far is a luxury SE. Marketing BS. 🤮

    • @geoffhaylock6848
      @geoffhaylock6848 3 года назад

      @@SM-wt8gd After breaking the 2nd one, the sales department wouldn't let the technicians swap the wheels over

    • @xappyoverland
      @xappyoverland 3 года назад +1

      Geoff Haylock I believe the 6 cylinder does not have the smaller steel wheel option because they don’t fit over the larger brakes. So they get the larger alloys only. Not great if you can’t have clearance for some more rubber

  • @jacksonaction.
    @jacksonaction. 3 года назад +7

    DAMN LAND ROVER NEEDS TO GET THEIR QUALITY CONTROL TOGETHER

  • @leeward6762
    @leeward6762 3 года назад +34

    Absolutely No Way a Normal Land Rover buyer gets that kind of treatment...we would maybe get the lego defender to play with while our real one was in the shop for months.

  • @PacoRudilla
    @PacoRudilla 3 года назад +110

    To me, the big question is how JLR would have reacted if you were not who you are...

    • @tomokokishi3066
      @tomokokishi3066 3 года назад +11

      Pretty much obvious I think

    • @Harry._.Thompson
      @Harry._.Thompson 3 года назад +2

      Similar I reckon as would have been still in warranty

    • @tmwei396
      @tmwei396 3 года назад +29

      @@Harry._.Thompson Yes, it would still be under warranty but they would order the same spec'd out one and make you wait 3 months for it instead of giving you one that's $17k more and not charge you for it.

    • @shubhamjalwal3893
      @shubhamjalwal3893 3 года назад +2

      @@tmwei396 exactly

    • @OGcottoncandyrandy
      @OGcottoncandyrandy 3 года назад +5

      Their response “get rekt”

  • @MonkeyShadow
    @MonkeyShadow 3 года назад +1

    JLR came through! Upgrade at 0 cost. Smiles all the way ... makes the pain worth it. Good work team JLR!

  • @JercCro
    @JercCro 3 года назад +16

    I really think that you won't have to decorate a christmas tree this year. You'll have enough flashing lights in your car! 😂😂😂😂

  • @davidgilmour3954
    @davidgilmour3954 3 года назад +41

    Land Rover - the most comfortable wait for a tow you will ever have!

    • @betoen
      @betoen 3 года назад

      Not if the engine fails and you have not AC.

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib 3 года назад +1

      thats what the lego is for. they can build their toy while waiting inside.

  • @ToreHansen
    @ToreHansen 3 года назад +2

    Really hope all the problems are ironed out on this one, cool that you guys got an upgrade without extra cost.

  • @mitcl8915
    @mitcl8915 3 года назад +5

    I truly enjoy this series. I know it’s been a pain to go through what you have with these, but it makes for seriously good content. Your actual real life interactions just are outstanding!

  • @arthwys
    @arthwys 3 года назад +18

    "How ya doin' back there Dad?" Roman really is a kid in a candy store with this thing!

  • @HammerRocks
    @HammerRocks 3 года назад +2

    Appreciate the full disclosure and transparency of your experience. I'm glad LR & the dealer are doing the right thing for you. Though I'm holding back on ordering (if at all) for now. Maybe after they've been building it for over a year, they would have ironed out all the bugs. I'll take a look at it again then - unless I've gotten something else by then - like the new Ford Bronco. Please Ford Australia, sell the new Bronco here.

  • @trey8872
    @trey8872 3 года назад +48

    If Land Rover treated every consumer with a warranty issue in this manner, they’d be out of business. I think we all know what the company was thinking.

    • @BamaPewPew
      @BamaPewPew 3 года назад +3

      If it was your company and you knew it was a journalist how would you handle it? I wager the same.

    • @BamaPewPew
      @BamaPewPew 3 года назад +2

      @Brian M lol you do know they are trying to sell vehicles, not sway people away from them right? Admitting it’s crap and saying you should buy it anyway isn’t a great pitch lol

    • @27Zangle
      @27Zangle 3 года назад

      @Brian M - Yeah, but I have full trust in TFL for their honest unpaid review.

  • @sampatankar1977
    @sampatankar1977 3 года назад +9

    Enjoy it as we live vicariously! I think you should treat it exactly as you were going to use the white one...it would be good to see how a 'fancy' model holds up!

  • @trapper1211
    @trapper1211 3 года назад +11

    at this point, I'm legit sure, the unreliability is the part of their marketing strat

    • @orkzin
      @orkzin 3 года назад

      Dude

  • @sir_spam-alot
    @sir_spam-alot 3 года назад +122

    "What else could go wrong?"
    Doug DeMuro has entered the chat

    • @jordangraf673
      @jordangraf673 3 года назад

      Did something happen to his?

    • @GeoZeppelin1979
      @GeoZeppelin1979 3 года назад +10

      I hate that guy (not personally just his way of reviewing cars)

    • @solfest9508
      @solfest9508 3 года назад +8

      That bumper to bumper warranty was money well spent.

    • @JS-qi1ou
      @JS-qi1ou 3 года назад +3

      @@GeoZeppelin1979 I agree, he fixates on stuff that no one else does, and also thinks some of the most gimmicky shit is cool.

    • @bronxzou
      @bronxzou 3 года назад +8

      @@GeoZeppelin1979 seems to be working out for him

  • @trailrunnah8886
    @trailrunnah8886 3 года назад +12

    I can just imagine the trepidation you guys will feel every time you hit that button to start it, LOL.

    • @alskooper3319
      @alskooper3319 3 года назад +3

      Rover dogs are like Tuner Cars, never drive more than 15 miles from home. True anecdote: A Rover owning friend and I planned a trip in two vehicles through several States. Part of his trip planning was mapping out Rover dealers along the way. Too funny. BTW he had to visit one. 😂

    • @fatty2027
      @fatty2027 3 года назад +4

      Imagine taking that thing into the boonies to simply go camping, I would be afraid to turn it off. " pleasepleaseplease start new $70k vehicle" with finger crossed

  • @jubrum2476
    @jubrum2476 3 года назад

    LR really did a good job here. You can tell there are plenty of trolls with their fake disrespect comments. They are just Jealous. It is an amazing car and top of its class!

  • @McTwistedTwisties
    @McTwistedTwisties 3 года назад +31

    I'm 99% sure land rover is holding their breath after that suspension fault message

    • @michelt4390
      @michelt4390 3 года назад

      Wait until they ride in the rail/snow...

  • @alankwok2210
    @alankwok2210 3 года назад +62

    Now with all this extra tech, just more stuff to break.

    • @trapper1211
      @trapper1211 3 года назад +1

      The amount of tech is not the problem. Poor engineering is the problem.

    • @scottcoleman7304
      @scottcoleman7304 3 года назад +1

      Yeahhh the British don't make stuff very well lol

  • @millomweb
    @millomweb 3 года назад +6

    2:00 So what you're saying is, you didn't get what you ordered. GREAT !

  • @graumail
    @graumail 3 года назад +17

    I’m sure its a much nicer one for them to drive around, but my interest went from 100 to 0.

  • @dkjoses12
    @dkjoses12 3 года назад +31

    I got my money on them having an issue with the 3rd one

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill 3 года назад

    You can tell how smooth it drives by how much the camera *DOESN'T* move when it's pointed to the back of the vehicle, filming Dad back in the 3rd row. And so quiet! You can hardly hear it when it's driving!
    They might not be the most reliable vehicles, but I can definitely see why folks buy them -- *so* quiet and smooth, while still being capable of handling rough terrain.

  • @bRiAn55549
    @bRiAn55549 3 года назад +13

    "So we are gonna build that right?"
    "Yeah we ARE gonna build it"
    Sounds so excited about the lego set, I would be too though