I ran the motor/esc specs through three different calculators. If Hobbywing didn't inflate their numbers this combo should produce a 28hp @ 300 amps @ 50v. That would be wild, but here's where it gets crazy. If peak current is actually 2000 amps, @ 50v that's roughly 180hp, depending on efficiency. Mind-blowing. 🤯
Awesome! Couldn't wait to see this motor/esc combo in a big rc! You didn't say anything about it being sensored, but that first slow, smooth, non-cogging pull was butter.
I'm so glad I just watched this video! I have a team Corelli punisher which runs hobbywing rebranded motors and ESC and I've had problems lately with my trigger on my remote and I couldn't figure out how to calibrate the ESC and now you showed me thank you so much
Explain what do you mean? I have a Losi dbxl-e 2.0 can you explain the problem? What are you trying to out it in? A MGM Esc and motor will cost as much as 3 combos of the hobbywing tho🤔
hello there. That was a while ago. I ended up getting the Hobbywing Max4 with a castle 800kv. goto my channel and I show my setup.@@truthisweareallgonnadie.
I’m sure you know someone with a mill, just mill out the chassis for motor clearance so it looks nice & gives you what room you need. Probably better than raising the entire drivetrain. Can’t wait to see how fast it is on 12s, will be crazy fast!
That thing jumps like it’s tethered to the ground…. Stiffer springs help I guess but it seems like you need more suspension travel and a higher CST shock fluid. That nose dive made me cringe. Props to the losi for not taking a dirt nap after that. Nice video
Awesome! As far as I know, the castle 800kv is rated for 12s. It would be interesting to see how the castle motor does on 12s in the real world. You would definitely get more rpms vs the 560kv.
I don't think you overgeared at all brother. More punch for sure and you could easily go 34 or 36 but dont think you need to. What a beast brother, I just can't imagine how much $$ you have in this rig, gotta be over 3k at this point. I live losi but there $$ a bit more. Appreciate ya
nice work Exo, thanks for sharing brother🤙🏽 Are you sure though that the pinion is 30t? it has 25t written on it... keen as to see what tyres will be able to handle the 12s!!
Holy hell Joe!!!! That is bad ass man!!!! Don't know how I missed this video, start my daily get ready for work routine watching your vids, 5am daily lol. Good stuff man!!!!
I added the 18 tooth pinion to my dbxl. 1st the pinion was wearing, replaced motor mount with vitavon, fixed problem. Then I bought belted tires, they came unglued 3 out of 4 glued them back, fixed. Installed beast 2000 works great. Now stock esc is sending hot capacitors 5 green lights. Guess I need to spend another 500 bucks and get the xlx2 setup. The 18 tooth pinion is one expensive upgrade.
Mate that's a beast now. On 12s it's going to be a insane animal good luck mate 👍🤣🤣. I don't know about putting that in a X maxx it will fold it self in half 🦘🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think I'm finally to the point where I'm going to get the max 4 and motor. I'm tired of the xlx2 and leopard motor overheating, just a short 10 min run will get things so hot you can't touch them. The gears are not binding because it roles freely. I have good fans on motor and esc. The only draw back is the price of getting the hobbywing kit and 6S batteries.
i wouldnt even put these in an rc tbh. i would replace the petrol engine in a sand buggy that can carry people direct drive 24s sensored with drag slicks on the rear would be a fun wheelsander
It’s awesome and I love seeing it mounted up but almost seems like a little too much motor for the dbxle. The 800kv 2028 with the max4 on 12s wold seem perfect
Man you had that thing flying!! i just set my dbxl up with a xlx2 combo. now you make me want to rip it all back out! lol awesome video Joe keep up the hard work. I always look forward for the daily uploads
Great job. Seams it has a bit more room as we where talking with the vitavon chassis and motor mount then the stock chassis. Going to be a beast on 12s. Just ran my kraton8s on 12s this morning quick will be doing a video this weekend on it.
So, you can in fact fit that ESC and motor into a Kraton 8S? I was thinking of picking these max4 motor combo. But, how is the clearance for that motor? Did you have to mount it up? Thanks.
I wouldn’t turn the punch up before you go 12s. Once you go 12s that may be to much punch. You probably only have a day or two until the other 6s battery comes in. You should be able to run a taller pinion too.
I hate to subscribe.....but you are such a lunatic...I had to :D You spend a lot of money to keep the channel busy. I thank you for that and subscribed now. And now - i watch that, for sure amazing, video :)
Ideally, that same system SHOULD fit/work in the rampage! Should. But finding or making the direct drive setup will be the issue. Maybe holler at Medic, owner of 'RC Sparks'. He has a ton of connections. 👍😁
Replace the failed stock servo with a NSDRC RS2500 ($250). It's the most powerful 5th scale servo on the market right now. It's also more powerful then the Reefs rapes beast 2000 ($350) which is just a rebranded AGFRC A280BVSW direct power 3s/4s which retails for $260 on their site. The NSDRC RS2500 is made by another Chinese manufacturer that produces all the highest torque hitting servos on the market right now.
I love Hobbywing stuff. They all run so efficiently. What I’ve heard the difference is between Hobbywing and Castle is that Castle doesn’t have the internal safeguards like Hobbywing so theoretically if they make a 12S system it may end up pushing more power but it won’t be as dependable as a Hobbywing. I think for me I’d rather have a dependable rig than a $3000 build go up in flames
Just met him this weekend at beat the creek he's a awesome guy an everyone that was at the event best time ever
Thanks to you buddy I just pre-ordered mine today for my Losi 5T I love how smooth that system is looking forward to it when it comes in
Any issues with the max4 1 yr on
Man you wasted no time getting this done! Looks like a solid performer, certainly has me looking forward to the 12s video, thanks for sharing
I ran the motor/esc specs through three different calculators. If Hobbywing didn't inflate their numbers this combo should produce a 28hp @ 300 amps @ 50v. That would be wild, but here's where it gets crazy. If peak current is actually 2000 amps, @ 50v that's roughly 180hp, depending on efficiency. Mind-blowing. 🤯
That's more hp than my daily Honda Civic 😂
@brainbah gotta use thicker ones
Awesome! Couldn't wait to see this motor/esc combo in a big rc! You didn't say anything about it being sensored, but that first slow, smooth, non-cogging pull was butter.
I'm so glad I just watched this video! I have a team Corelli punisher which runs hobbywing rebranded motors and ESC and I've had problems lately with my trigger on my remote and I couldn't figure out how to calibrate the ESC and now you showed me thank you so much
I bought one and just realized i'll have to send it back because of the 600kv limit on 12S. oh well , guess i'll get an MGM. THANKS for the video.
Explain what do you mean? I have a Losi dbxl-e 2.0 can you explain the problem? What are you trying to out it in? A MGM Esc and motor will cost as much as 3 combos of the hobbywing tho🤔
hello there. That was a while ago. I ended up getting the Hobbywing Max4 with a castle 800kv. goto my channel and I show my setup.@@truthisweareallgonnadie.
Nice setup!
Motor design is out of this world
I’m sure you know someone with a mill, just mill out the chassis for motor clearance so it looks nice & gives you what room you need. Probably better than raising the entire drivetrain. Can’t wait to see how fast it is on 12s, will be crazy fast!
Spectacular a launch as I've seen!
Beautiful bud, pretty sure i saw 25t on that pinion but either way its a screamer....again love the channel
Insane! 😱 I can't believe the motor actually fit without more modifications. Pretty crazy performance 👍
Man that was just impressive. Looking forward too seeing what the future of this Monster and the awesome builds you and others will have too show.
That thing jumps like it’s tethered to the ground…. Stiffer springs help I guess but it seems like you need more suspension travel and a higher CST shock fluid. That nose dive made me cringe. Props to the losi for not taking a dirt nap after that. Nice video
Yesyesyesyesuesyesyes please!!! I'm counting my money now, car payment or max4 for dbxle2🤔 I do need to start exercising anyway.🤫 dont tell the wife
Awesome! As far as I know, the castle 800kv is rated for 12s. It would be interesting to see how the castle motor does on 12s in the real world. You would definitely get more rpms vs the 560kv.
damn that thing rips! I have a xmaxx and a db pro so I can't see myself getting one of these but I'm a huge fan
I don't think you overgeared at all brother. More punch for sure and you could easily go 34 or 36 but dont think you need to.
What a beast brother, I just can't imagine how much $$ you have in this rig, gotta be over 3k at this point. I live losi but there $$ a bit more.
Appreciate ya
thank you ! at least someone understand low KV and ratios !
Awesome video that combo is a Beast 🤩💪💪💪
Bro the track looks awesome. I'd love to check it out. And that max4 combo😱😱😱😱. Awesome videos
You should take a torch and a shovel or something heat up the ends of the pipes and flatten them so you don’t smack them a full speed
I could see the RC madness in your eyes !
And that shit eating grin 😁
Definitely rethinking my xlx2 and 1100 kv setup i have now for 12s thanks bro wife's not.gonna be happy lol
Jesssusssss I can't even imagine what 12s is gonna do
Those looks perfect for the Raminator.
nice work Exo, thanks for sharing brother🤙🏽 Are you sure though that the pinion is 30t? it has 25t written on it... keen as to see what tyres will be able to handle the 12s!!
Definitely 25t if you freeze frame and count the teeth you’ll count 25t
Who makes the 25t pinion gear for the DBXL-E?
😆
Your commentary and general excitement is contagious! Love it!
Glad you enjoy it!
Glad to finally see you coving those jumps, going to save a lot of work on maintenance now 👊🏼 can’t wait to see the Max4 rip on 12s eventually 😎
Holy hell Joe!!!! That is bad ass man!!!! Don't know how I missed this video, start my daily get ready for work routine watching your vids, 5am daily lol. Good stuff man!!!!
*BEAST*
nice vid man cannot wait to see the 12s run :)
That thing is awesome. Looks like the perfect upgrade for my 1/5th scale kraton lol.
Holy shyt! That motor and esc is HUGE!
Fingers crossed a updated version of the max5 and max6 get released after seeing this and seeing the new max8 that is now a 160amp esc
Wow, you win the go big or go home challenge 😀
Wowwwwww, love this DBXLE with the crazy big combo.
WoooW very nice amigo 🤟🏽😎🤟🏽
I added the 18 tooth pinion to my dbxl. 1st the pinion was wearing, replaced motor mount with vitavon, fixed problem. Then I bought belted tires, they came unglued 3 out of 4 glued them back, fixed. Installed beast 2000 works great. Now stock esc is sending hot capacitors 5 green lights. Guess I need to spend another 500 bucks and get the xlx2 setup. The 18 tooth pinion is one expensive upgrade.
That thing is so sick granted mine does not have as many upgrades as yours but that 12s combo, the money is burning a hole in my pocket!
Awe hell nah 👍💯 already putting it to use
Mate that's a beast now. On 12s it's going to be a insane animal good luck mate 👍🤣🤣. I don't know about putting that in a X maxx it will fold it self in half 🦘🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think I'm finally to the point where I'm going to get the max 4 and motor. I'm tired of the xlx2 and leopard motor overheating, just a short 10 min run will get things so hot you can't touch them. The gears are not binding because it roles freely. I have good fans on motor and esc. The only draw back is the price of getting the hobbywing kit and 6S batteries.
Nice Frankenstein you built there 👍
THAT IS INCREDIBLE !!! I need this combo for my 5ive T. I have the Max5 in it at 8S and its a beast with it but 12S will be a whole new experience
Joe will go for a backflip, wfo, & the buggy will go into the multiverse! Lmao! 😜
Wow that's MAH HOOSIV😳 BIGASS beer can..
I’m digging the 12s system I might have to get one for my xmaxx
I wanted more I will get more. Love the attitude and the optimism you’re one of my favorites!
Good luck on the warranty.
Whooaah, that's one huge freaking motor!! 😳..... Hmmmm, I could probably use that system for my kids power wheels 🤔😂
Awesome stuff Joe. Can't wait for castle to release a monster like that
I've been waiting for the install and running of this 👍💯👊
What a MONSTER
i wouldnt even put these in an rc tbh. i would replace the petrol engine in a sand buggy that can carry people
direct drive 24s sensored with drag slicks on the rear would be a fun wheelsander
My steering servo on my dbxl went out to I can’t wait to run 12 s get that air control
I Wanted more...
I Will get more...
Love'it 😂 💯
Temperature guns aren't accurate on reflective surface so be careful were pointing it might not be getting good reading but awesome video 👏
Dude, that thing is sick!
Too much power 🔋 💪 😍
Enjoyed your video, great information.
O~my god!!! Metal dbxl~e 12s power
What a beast ahaahhaaha, crazy powah!!1
Man this video was awesome 👌 I really learned alot ,thanks man !!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Damn that is sweet!
It’s awesome and I love seeing it mounted up but almost seems like a little too much motor for the dbxle. The 800kv 2028 with the max4 on 12s wold seem perfect
I think thats the point lol
I believe the Max4 can only run motors up to 600kv .
@@clairecooper3848 that is if they are 70120 size, it should have no problem running an 800kv 56 size motor.
Man you had that thing flying!! i just set my dbxl up with a xlx2 combo. now you make me want to rip it all back out! lol awesome video Joe keep up the hard work. I always look forward for the daily uploads
Be careful it doesn't catch fire, i sold my xlx2 because of that fear.
Great job. Seams it has a bit more room as we where talking with the vitavon chassis and motor mount then the stock chassis. Going to be a beast on 12s. Just ran my kraton8s on 12s this morning quick will be doing a video this weekend on it.
So, you can in fact fit that ESC and motor into a Kraton 8S? I was thinking of picking these max4 motor combo. But, how is the clearance for that motor? Did you have to mount it up? Thanks.
@@lexsteel12 I am running a 58113 Leppard motor and a beast pro 300a esc in the kraton 8s.
@@lnskustoms6795 What Kv Leopard are you running?
@@phillymetalhead 530kv.
@@lnskustoms6795 Thanks.
You sound like an evil doctor with that laugh while updating the esc!
I wouldn’t turn the punch up before you go 12s. Once you go 12s that may be to much punch. You probably only have a day or two until the other 6s battery comes in. You should be able to run a taller pinion too.
I need this in my life
I hate to subscribe.....but you are such a lunatic...I had to :D
You spend a lot of money to keep the channel busy. I thank you for that and subscribed now.
And now - i watch that, for sure amazing, video :)
My ocd was triggered seeing you didn't use flanged nuts on your rear upper hinge pins lol
edit: ps the vitavon battery trays are good
Ideally, that same system SHOULD fit/work in the rampage! Should. But finding or making the direct drive setup will be the issue. Maybe holler at Medic, owner of 'RC Sparks'. He has a ton of connections. 👍😁
For a rampage check out steel city rc or i think Mega RC, if i recall correctly steel city has a center diff and motor mount setup in his rampage
Raz Shifrin just introduced HIS OWN branded servo. It's 1/5 I believe. Looks amazing.
Replace the failed stock servo with a NSDRC RS2500 ($250). It's the most powerful 5th scale servo on the market right now. It's also more powerful then the Reefs rapes beast 2000 ($350) which is just a rebranded AGFRC A280BVSW direct power 3s/4s which retails for $260 on their site. The NSDRC RS2500 is made by another Chinese manufacturer that produces all the highest torque hitting servos on the market right now.
Wowzers
Nice that’s going to be my next rc
That makes the xlx2 look like a tenth scale motor 😂what a beast . Wonder if they will fit into the kraton/outcast 1/5th . Nice job .
😂😂 I’m sure we will see these in the Kraton somehow
You should give the 5th scale hobbystar servo a try I've got one in my xmaxx and in my baja 5b and I really like it
25t pinion lol. Close enough. Beast now
just discovered your channel and subbed great video dude.
Thanks!
Ahh i just noticed the Florida RC Outlet sticker. Those guys are great and one of the best shops ive been to.
Yes they are!
It runs like a champion 👍. Any ideas if the drivetrain will keep up with 12s ?
Wow I love it🔥🔥👈🏾
Keep the pinion gear at 30. No need to change even on 12 s
Hey @EXOCAGEDRC HOW WAS YOUR LOSI IS DOING!? BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED YOUR SERVO ARE KILLING OVERVOLTAGE!!!
can't wait to see it on the Big kraton.......
I heard there was a "Flip" Kit to fit the larger motors in them, I haven't seen one of those yet
Hey my friend can you please do a video on what u use to raise that transmission and how u did it I have one and I don't want to get rid of it thanks
It's a 25T pinion isn't it? Also, will the vitavon ESC mount acomodate the Max 4?
Bro you got that pinion & spur gear mesh way to tight!!
Now dats whats for dinner yo
How big pinion will fit? I also have the Vitavon motor/center diff mount
This is the RC I want. I like the size.
8:50 my same reaction to the Max 4 release
Look at the perfect pass monster(servo). This looks like a good option for your dbxle
Isn’t that standard size servo and just and agf rebrand?
And they're gone
@@Mckhus no it’s not agf rebrand and yea it’s for 1/8
I love Hobbywing stuff. They all run so efficiently. What I’ve heard the difference is between Hobbywing and Castle is that Castle doesn’t have the internal safeguards like Hobbywing so theoretically if they make a 12S system it may end up pushing more power but it won’t be as dependable as a Hobbywing. I think for me I’d rather have a dependable rig than a $3000 build go up in flames
Me too, have HW in all my cars and no issues with any of them. Love their programming, much easier to do and the motors are quiet.
Have you tried cpu thermal paste to transfer heat better from the esc?
I'm thinking this could compete with the XLX2 for those speed runners who want to go really fast.
Big time!!!!! can't wait to see them top speeds
Beast
Man I got the max5 in my dbxle and the thing is a beast, I can't imagine with this.
If I could like this video 1000 times I would
I just want the max4 and I m going to use my 800kv motor and only run on 8s in my kraton exb 1/5