Why radical PFI is banned now & why it wasn’t for so long & why a rare opposition consensus on it

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • In episode 1085 of #CutTheClutter, Shekhar Gupta explains the origin of the Popular Front of India (PFI), its key members and how even the worst critics of the Modi government support a ban against it. We will also look at why it is believed that PFI is a revamped version of banned terror outfit Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) despite the former's members contesting the claims and how 'political polarisation' may be behind delay in putting the ban.
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  • @ThePrintIndia
    @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад +11

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    • @oldmonk1593
      @oldmonk1593 2 года назад

      Ur good but be modret.

    • @navindipali5862
      @navindipali5862 2 года назад +1

      Mutual fund ad hai, subscribers kyun?

    • @chsn13
      @chsn13 2 года назад +1

      Ppppp

    • @chsn13
      @chsn13 2 года назад

      Pppppp

    • @aries5534
      @aries5534 2 года назад

      Along with PFI islamic print needs to be banned too. I wouldn't be surprised if print was found to be receiving terrorist fund from Isis for its anti hindu propoganda

  • @JJ-jt8ie
    @JJ-jt8ie 2 года назад +838

    Dear Shekharji, as a Kerala Christian, I can say 100% that Islamic ideology is not good for Kerala, or anywhere. There will be plurality in India only if the majority continues to be Hindu

    • @padma9025
      @padma9025 2 года назад +49

      👏👏

    • @srichakrahubli
      @srichakrahubli 2 года назад +60

      Sir thank you for your openness. SG WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS. IDEOLOGY AFTER ALL

    • @abhinashkumar3161
      @abhinashkumar3161 2 года назад +24

      Exactly

    • @desistarktm7270
      @desistarktm7270 2 года назад +26

      @Pierre In Christian Missionaries only lessen Hindu population.
      Whereas peaceful faith is a threat to the idea of India itself due to high fertility rates,female illiteracy, misogyny and terrorism apart from conversions.
      I hope you choose your fight wisely.

    • @srichakrahubli
      @srichakrahubli 2 года назад +7

      @Pierre In what's wrong is wrong middle eastern or south western

  • @bondinthepond
    @bondinthepond 2 года назад +219

    I love 30 mins CTCs….more details…some stories, more fun. 20 mins CTCs might end up being too professional in order to just cover the content.

    • @BeE_AriyaN
      @BeE_AriyaN 2 года назад +8

      Exactly, it's not just the details but the way of putting them together 👍🏻

    • @shadowstorm9363
      @shadowstorm9363 2 года назад +7

      same, i dont mind longer ctc, it gives us more clarity and more explanation, however if we are shortening ctc, i hope it does not reduce below 20 min

    • @hemantpathak7927
      @hemantpathak7927 2 года назад +10

      Absolutely
      Personally I believe duration should depend on the complexity

    • @drmusicfun
      @drmusicfun 2 года назад +4

      Completely agree

    • @goldenbennett7407
      @goldenbennett7407 2 года назад +1

      I'm also for long ctcs

  • @lordcommander4694
    @lordcommander4694 2 года назад +42

    I always love the longer CTC's. The more depth the better.

    • @arjungupta4288
      @arjungupta4288 2 года назад

      That's what she said!!!

    • @johndoe-vc1we
      @johndoe-vc1we 2 года назад

      Not me, it is long because he has to dumb it down for the kiddies here. I lost interest and went with other programs.

  • @Himarius
    @Himarius 2 года назад +26

    Shekhar, I don’t think the duration should be of any concern - what really matters is how cluttered, complex and chaotic is the topic.
    Sometimes the topic might have many layers and repercussions requiring more explanations and hence a lengthy narrative while in other cases it might not have the layers but needs interpretation of reading between the lines/words and could be of a shorter duration.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Himar…a lot of people also say they find some episodes Tom long..so we need to find a balance…thanks for writing in..Shekhar

  • @MrRanganath1982
    @MrRanganath1982 2 года назад +5

    Your hate for bjp is eternal.. They wanted evidence to be collected and were learning the modus operandi of the org so that they will not come back as diffent org..

  • @rajendranathanmnair4122
    @rajendranathanmnair4122 2 года назад +6

    This episode of cut the clutter is not really cutting any clutter regarding PFI, it's role in fomenting trouble in various parts of the country, taking support from various terrorist organisations, sending it's cadres to fight along with ISIS, etc.,etc. This is the most disappointing episodes among all you have made so far. in fact PFI cadres will be very happy with this as the hard truth about what's happening in South India in account of these forces will not be known to your listeners from this episode. Kerala was being converted into a Islamist terror hub aided by both left and congress fronts since past two decades. I know it's not politically correct for Sekharji to expose radical ismalists for who or what they really are. ( More so since they don liaftist mantle too which is woke)

    • @essee3984
      @essee3984 2 года назад +1

      TBH, I've never met a Hindu Keralite in my life. Delhi University has a lot of Malayali students, and everyone's either Muslim/Christian ..most having a really radical outlook to things in general, heavily influenced by Communist ideology.
      Because of this, I've never felt good about Malayalis and I used to wonder how can people coming from God's Own Country be so cold and irrational. And im not the only one, most people I know ended up developing the perception abouy Malayalis. However, the more I read about Kerala politics the more I understand.

  • @jagatchaitanyaprabhala8668
    @jagatchaitanyaprabhala8668 2 года назад +5

    Conclusion is to blame bjp for not banning so long? I really didn't understand your conclusion 🤷‍♂️ i thought you should be giving reason why it didnt get banned by congress or other parties also when they all feel pfi is the bad guy 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ no mention of why it took SIMIs ban so long

  • @shrivastavasaurabh2
    @shrivastavasaurabh2 2 года назад +3

    The title is confusing. I assumed it to be rare all party consensus against ban and not against pfi.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад

      Well the consensus is against PFI. Space in a headline is very limited…thanks for writing in…Shekhar

  • @santosh4s604
    @santosh4s604 2 года назад +1

    At 1.35 - SG - since May 2014, there has been a plethora of UNIMAGINABLE ACTIONS and this is one of them.
    BJP is not like the cong - merely to come and go. But their vision & mission is to leave an INDELIBLE IMPRESSIONS, as long as mountains last.

  • @ps-fv5qr
    @ps-fv5qr 2 года назад +2

    Congress muslim appeasement policy is serious issue

  • @amiindra
    @amiindra 2 года назад +2

    Equating RSS with PFI is just money balancing, this is liberal concept of race theory

  • @RavindraSinha
    @RavindraSinha 2 года назад

    Removing the traitors from their holes takes time, once they are exposed then it is the right time to take action. Banning such organizations will not work unless the root cause is addressed.

  • @MrLotliker
    @MrLotliker 2 года назад +1

    PFI SDPI and all similar types are strategic outfits of Congress and its branches or clones like SP,NCP, Udhav Sena, NCP, DMK, TRS SP, NC AAP etc. Only party whose welfare is in its heart is BJP.

  • @artis4985
    @artis4985 2 года назад +472

    Congress cleared cases on PFI members in the past. Kapil Sibal fights cases for PFI.

    • @Gappasappa
      @Gappasappa 2 года назад +105

      Somehow SG doesn't mention that. So much for unhyphenated journalism.

    • @parvadhami980
      @parvadhami980 2 года назад +4

      Kapil Sibal is indeed a "Devils Advocate"

    • @astee.007
      @astee.007 2 года назад +44

      khursid fought the case for simi

    • @pranjalaneja1325
      @pranjalaneja1325 2 года назад +14

      @Kaushal Batavia should bjp be banned to make a govt with anti national PDP of Kashmir in past?

    • @debmitra4384
      @debmitra4384 2 года назад +47

      @@pranjalaneja1325 bjp formed government to get a inside look on the workings of Jammu Kashmir which ultimately helped them to revoke article 370 as smoothly as it was done

  • @bindurao3463
    @bindurao3463 2 года назад +383

    You don't mention Congress has openly supported PFI for decades

    • @sensiesama2713
      @sensiesama2713 2 года назад +30

      Also didn't mention the 2047 toolkit

    • @AkashAkash-qd1sq
      @AkashAkash-qd1sq 2 года назад

      He cannot. He's the Congress Media Commander in Chief !

    • @shubhamjha4998
      @shubhamjha4998 2 года назад +14

      Oh hello gobarbhakt in 2012 then Kerala CM Oommen Chandy requested central government to ban PFI and he was also from congress

    • @manjulashanmugasundaram706
      @manjulashanmugasundaram706 2 года назад +2

      On what date and which congressi did that? How?

    • @kd6788
      @kd6788 2 года назад +20

      @@shubhamjha4998 Then why didnt scamgress ban it?? Chamcha

  • @iragateestataatateesta971
    @iragateestataatateesta971 2 года назад +84

    *Interesting Discussion✨*
    *Judge :* Did you raise the slogan that India will be divided into pieces?
    *Accused :* Yes.
    *Judge :* Did you raise the slogan of Pakistan Zindabad?
    *Accused :* Yes.
    *Judge :* You insulted the National Anthem and the National Flag?
    *Accused :* Yes.
    *Judge :* Did you support Terrorism and Naxalism?
    *Accused :* Yes.
    *Judge :* Did you support raising weapons against army, police ?
    *Accused :* Yes.
    *Judge :* Did you damage government property?
    *Accused :* Yes.
    *Judge :* Did you hoist Pakistani flag in India ?
    *accused :* Yes Judge, I have done all this.
    *Judge:* Why did you do this, are you not a citizen of this country, do you know what is the punishment for this treason ?
    *accused :* Yes, Judge I am familiar with all of these and I have done it very thoughtfully! Before I did all this I was anonymous, craving for the little things, but ever since I've done it I've fallen in the category of Honorable People. Big leaders of national and regional parties like Laluputra, Maya, Akhilesh, Mamta, Pawar, Devegowda, Yechury, Abdullah and Kejriwal are eager to meet me! I've been getting calls all day, someone comes to see me every morning and evening.
    Good political analysts debating my ideology. Journalists like Ravish Kumar, Rajdeep Sardesai, Barkha Dutt, Karan Thapar and Shekhar Gupta are praising me, articles are being written on me in print media, TV channels are debating on me.
    Judge sir, yesterday I was worried about a small job but today proposals are coming from big parties to contest assembly and parliamentary elections!
    Don't know from where, but millions of rupees came into my account now!!
    *Judge:* But this is treason, you may be charged with treason.
    *accused :* no fear of him.
    Kapil Sibbal, Manu Singhvi, Prashant Bhushan, the country's well-known lawyers who defended Yakoob Memon, Kasab and Afzal are craving to get me out of this!
    It will take 20 years in lower Court to convict me, then I will go to High Court, then Supreme Court and maybe in the meantime I will become MLA, MP or even minister, so what is the problem with me ?
    *This article is not a joke!*
    Kanhaiya Kumar, Jignesh, Umar Khalid, Shahla Rashid, Hardik, Alpesh, Owaisi, Azam and Ajmal, have become leaders by such actions!! 😭😭
    *Blessed is our democracy and our people!*

    • @PrasannaOgaleSG
      @PrasannaOgaleSG 2 года назад +5

      Really liked your comment. Let us hope the so called seculars of India see the true nature of organisations like PFI.

    • @kumarswamymc433
      @kumarswamymc433 2 года назад +1

      Fantastic 👍👏

    • @the_storyteller5396
      @the_storyteller5396 2 года назад

      And so has the terrorists sadhvi thakur Modi and Shah...get your ass straight bitch!!

    • @mujahidi1075
      @mujahidi1075 2 года назад

      Shut up you moron. The reality is that the only party diving India is BJP.

    • @prasadlele8332
      @prasadlele8332 2 года назад +5

      you nailed it perfectly. thia is how antinationals have grown in this country and today many in media including Shekhar Gupta slyly support them.

  • @chanakyabharat756
    @chanakyabharat756 2 года назад +124

    SIMI staying for long is mystery says Shekarji, Congress will tell hold my coffee.
    And he expects Vajpayee to ban it immediately hahaha, OMG 😱

    • @srichakrahubli
      @srichakrahubli 2 года назад +14

      SG is a sickular Saint.

    • @akshaypai2096
      @akshaypai2096 2 года назад +1

      Actually 🤣

    • @IASachin
      @IASachin 2 года назад +5

      Your comment is real cut the clutter 👌

  • @aashishsharma083
    @aashishsharma083 2 года назад +289

    Ok let’s suppose that BJP didn’t ban PFI for their electoral profit. But then why didn’t congress ban the PFI?

    • @LostSoul979
      @LostSoul979 2 года назад +4

      They also had electoral profit from their existence but in a different way...

    • @shubhamjha4998
      @shubhamjha4998 2 года назад

      Because you need lot of evidence before banning any organisation it cannot be on the emotions and now also government ban it for only 5 years that means they don't have enough evidence otherwise they would have ban it for forever

    • @madhulikanegi319
      @madhulikanegi319 2 года назад +20

      How BJP benefits from not baning PFI . Muslims anyway never vote for BJP

    • @madhulikanegi319
      @madhulikanegi319 2 года назад +1

      @@LostSoul979 so complexity 😀😁 BJP is not so sophisticated

    • @uglytoad285
      @uglytoad285 2 года назад

      @@madhulikanegi319 but Hindus vote detesting muslims.

  • @prashadin
    @prashadin 2 года назад +217

    It is not opportunism-for BJP, it’s the right thing to do. Congress didn’t have guts to do it. Don’t make it political , the country needs it

    • @santosh4s604
      @santosh4s604 2 года назад +3

      SG is against BJP and he has admitted this in "How India Voted: Making Sense of the 2019 General Election" available in youtube 18.57 mts clip.

    • @adityadhardwivedi634
      @adityadhardwivedi634 2 года назад

      @@santosh4s604 thanks

    • @Thanveerkamal
      @Thanveerkamal 2 года назад

      Nothing will happen with the ban, the work PFI has done will take another route, evolution is the theory... and PFI doesn't have worst background like RSS & sangh pariwar ( like real bomb blast of Ajmer, Malegoan, Makka masjid, samjhota express) and the recent testimony from the Maharashtra RSS person that RSS planted bombs in all over India to help BJP etc,
      So crushing and Ideological part with opposition with further create stronger support, unlike Congress, who cut the roots of Muslims organisation in the name of Muslim appeasement.
      BJP is a rightwing party, so the action will further strengthen the Muslim based parties and will evolve further. There are two ways to neutralise a society one is directly plucking out of radicals (definitely not an easy task) another is creating virtual leaders to cater the or neutralise the radical minded people.
      So BJP'S move is direct, then you will see some more direct or indirect open challenges.. let observe how these things move further, history will tell the answer.
      Every action has an equal or opposite reaction.

    • @adityadhardwivedi634
      @adityadhardwivedi634 2 года назад +4

      @@Thanveerkamal You're blaming an organization from which India has got 2 popular prime minister from its people's votes. Any kind of foul crying is unnecessary.

    • @Thanveerkamal
      @Thanveerkamal 2 года назад

      @@adityadhardwivedi634 is there any criteria that creating two prime ministers make that organisation sacred? And terror organisations is indeed a terror organisation, communist part had created most tyrant leaders in the history, Hitler & Mussolini we the tyrant rulers.. so it doesn't justify atrocities against any community.
      So better pounder before its too late, we Muslims has nothing to loss, due to majoritarian & Hindu politics our country is heading towards destruction.
      In fact now i wish for most ferocious Hindu leader who should really hurt Muslims, Modi is simply playing politics and fooling people to stay in power, we need a real kattar Hindu PM, a kattar Hindu PM will help Muslims to get stronger and we Muslims can pluck out the termite from our community. A void in Muslim community will give birth of a many greatest leaders who will make India again rich & super power.

  • @parvadhami980
    @parvadhami980 2 года назад +58

    17:25 PFI holding a "Yoga" camp? Who would believe that 😂

    • @sagarshetty3175
      @sagarshetty3175 2 года назад

      average keralite who thinks muslims are very secular and encourage other religion.

    • @santosh4s604
      @santosh4s604 2 года назад +7

      Only SG would believe even if PFI says they are running a "Journalism Academy".

    • @rakeshp80
      @rakeshp80 2 года назад

      He doesn't know... Kerala public know about these terrorist group

  • @goyanka01
    @goyanka01 2 года назад +62

    ‘SIMI was not ready to convert India into Muslim nation via democratic means’ - what is he smoking? Who and which organization converts a country into a different religion via democratic means!!! 😅

    • @D_stranger7
      @D_stranger7 2 года назад +13

      Guptaji doesn’t want to hurt feelings of particular community I guess, thus playing with words to make it sound little less disturbing

    • @shyambajekal8084
      @shyambajekal8084 2 года назад +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @bkp95
      @bkp95 2 года назад +7

      Just like their pir Aurangzeb converted through democratic means .

    • @niveditakamath5366
      @niveditakamath5366 2 года назад

      @@D_stranger7 Journalism is about spitting out truth in its most horrid form. Its not our grandmother to sugar-coat bitter facts in order to not hurt our feelings. 😕 Also SIMI does not equal to all muslims. Its a terrorist org. So who's feelings were being protected I dont know.

    • @D_stranger7
      @D_stranger7 2 года назад

      @@niveditakamath5366 I guess I wasn’t bold enough to make my point well better late then never,
      Let me rearrange my thoughts in a way which make a more bold statement what I was trying to imply was that Shekhar Gupta doesn’t belong to the category of journalism you were implying, he is left leaning, use selective facts to divert and direct people mind in his propaganda and he is quite good
      If you still have doubts regarding what I stated you can research on yourself first
      I will give you a point to start with Bangladeshi journalist Taslima Nasreen and guptaji 2017 case start with this you will reach a certain point in your research that the next time you watch guptaji’s cut the clutter your rational mind will trigger you automatically on certain phrases guptaji opt out and the whole journalism is hard core truth definition will make a whole different meaning the world will be better place
      That’s a promise

  • @alexjoy9693
    @alexjoy9693 2 года назад +31

    The PFI’s Islamist and violence in Kerala has destroyed the Kerala’s Congress vote bank which was Upper caste Hindus and Christian’s with the Muslim league as its coalition partner. Now Christian’s and upper caste Hindus vote for any party that ally’s with any Muslim party because the PFI has tarnished the reputation of Muslims in the state. Most of my family who have been Congress supporters, have vowed to only vote for the BJP because only they can counter the violence and hatred from the PFI.

    • @narendraSingh-cl6ps
      @narendraSingh-cl6ps Год назад

      @alexjoy9693 Brother I've gone through your comments while looking at your profile. I have a few friends from Kerala but I don't want to discuss with them anything political especially based on Hindu-muslim and all cz they will think that he is hate monger or so.
      I just want to have a real scenario of Kerala especially after this new film "The Kerala story". I know people of Kerala are most educated and they are living in peace and harmony atleast on paper. Only thing I want to know is, whether this issue is REAL or only a few number of cases are there.
      Please respond .

  • @krishnaxyz
    @krishnaxyz 2 года назад +110

    Shekhar sir, educated 'guess' is so much flawed and dangerous that tomorrow you will say BJP had propped up PFI. Imagine if it was banned between 2014-2019, then I guess this 'unanimity' across political spectrum would not have happened. This ban is not to be done simply by a gazette notification alone but has to be backed up by building case against the organization legally, politically and socially. PFI should not be allowed to banned to create martyrdom and more division.

    • @IASachin
      @IASachin 2 года назад +7

      Shekhar is so deeply ingrained in politics that sometimes he doesn't see things as they are. He always look for some politics into it even if it is non existant.

    • @santosh4s604
      @santosh4s604 2 года назад +2

      For people like SG it is the easiest thing - pick holes on others' decisions/policies.
      His policy is like that of the Wolf in the tale "The Wolf and the Lamb" i.e. blame BJP just b'cos he does not like BJP or b'cos he can.

    • @sujithkumar2041
      @sujithkumar2041 2 года назад +1

      Kerala gvt on record recommended bjp gvt to ban pfi. It’s only until they challenged rss on their own turf with tit for tat killing and this backlash from rss as in coastal Karnataka

    • @krishnaxyz
      @krishnaxyz 2 года назад

      @@sujithkumar2041 RSS workers are being attacked for the past 4 decades in Kerala for that matter. If Kerala govt resolution is anything to go by as example, then CPM would have been banned at the first instance of NDA government.

    • @VM-is8by
      @VM-is8by 2 года назад

      Ask to any Christians in kerala about PFI.....they suffered most love jihad(girls from commie families also).....love jihad have caders in every educational institution, they planning and trapping girls....PFI Muslim girls setting trap for other girls....in this many were sent to Iraq and Syria for fighting with ISIS....PFI plan ,execute and support every love jihad...in legally and illegal way....they have special lawyers and religion conversation centers....Still no trace about many missing girls....maybe around ur inside burqa or sent abroad for jihad

  • @jaisalsanghvi
    @jaisalsanghvi 2 года назад +97

    Calling this a "rare moment" where all sides agree is not right. The left dropped the ball on this and any amount of sugar coating this will be as effective as Congress loyalists betting on Rahul Gandhi.
    6:19 Owaisi said he opposes the approach, not the objective of PFI. That's very different from being against PFI.

    • @ashash9986
      @ashash9986 2 года назад +2

      You correctly worded.

    • @shyambajekal8084
      @shyambajekal8084 2 года назад +3

      Owaisi has set the ball rolling. Now slowly, the same guys who were agreeing with the action are now slowly changing their tune 😃

    • @Thanveerkamal
      @Thanveerkamal 2 года назад

      Nothing gonna happen, they did their part, now new things will evolve... Muslims will get United further and will become strong further.

  • @SuspectUsual
    @SuspectUsual 2 года назад +72

    MOST IMPORTANT REASON: PFI's Mission 2047 to establish Islamic rule in Bharat!

    • @ululukululu450
      @ululukululu450 2 года назад +5

      Jai Hindu Rastra.

    • @bkp95
      @bkp95 2 года назад +3

      He forgot to cover this even caders were arrested . May be certificate of secularism would have been cancelled.

  • @vippanchal8
    @vippanchal8 2 года назад +69

    By the logic given at 18.30 mean, it can also be extrapolated that the congress ‘secular’ party has so much vested interest that one could never expect of them (when in power) banning extremists organisations!

  • @SuspectUsual
    @SuspectUsual 2 года назад +107

    Mission 2024: PM Modi 3.0
    Mission 2029: PM Yogi 1.0
    Mission 2047: SANATAN RASHTRA!

    • @green7759
      @green7759 2 года назад +8

      chal mil gya sanatan rashtra, phir kya? what you'll get out of that

    • @karrivenkatavanaja4641
      @karrivenkatavanaja4641 2 года назад +27

      @@green7759 peace n prosperity. Not to mention the progress of human civilization... !

    • @green7759
      @green7759 2 года назад +3

      @@karrivenkatavanaja4641 kyun abhi ni hai prosperity and development?

    • @green7759
      @green7759 2 года назад

      @@karrivenkatavanaja4641 tum lindu nikalte ho ghar se bahar bhi ki bs whatsapp dekh dekh kr opinion bnate ho ?

    • @karrivenkatavanaja4641
      @karrivenkatavanaja4641 2 года назад

      @@green7759 Prosperity is nothing without peace n security... Otherwise, we'll fall like Pershia.. There are still moles n supporters of Islamic radicals exist n they ruin n tarnish the country's imagine... Not to mention Shahidbag, Godhra n Delhi riots... They won't study except Qran n don't except the coexistence of another religion...To keep this jahil in a cage n to still run a multi cultural country towards progress is huge task... History speaks once the greatest civilizations of the world like Pershia n Egypt pulled down to underground by the Islamisation..

  • @stayreasonablestayreasonab8133
    @stayreasonablestayreasonab8133 2 года назад +58

    It's not easy to arrest a minority religion org in India. Too many people will play sickular politics. It needs to get really bad before BJP can actually arrest them.

    • @santosh4s604
      @santosh4s604 2 года назад

      It is an unadulterated terrorist organisation not religious org.
      There are many muslims who do not tow the violent methods of PFI viz., the sufis, the IUML, Ahmedias, etc....
      Will you stayreasonable if your hand is chopped off (like Prof TJ Joseph) or murdered like Sanjit, Pravin Nettaru, Ramalinga, etc.
      Be practical. Professing via social media is easy but PRACTISING ?

    • @gauravshah89
      @gauravshah89 2 года назад

      @@santosh4s604 well the religion of Islam is itself a violent political ideology of Mohammad mascarading as religion. So if Islam is religion then PFi is religious org.

  • @ravi-fc2tp
    @ravi-fc2tp 2 года назад +25

    Ban is on Pfi and he used many times RSS photos to defame shameful gupta

    • @santosh4s604
      @santosh4s604 2 года назад +1

      SG is against BJP and so what do you expect.
      Watch his video dt. 1.6.2019 "How India Voted: Making Sense of the 2019 General Election - Shekhar Gupta" in youtube 18.57 mts.
      He admitted indulging in YELLOW JOURNALISM - deliberately ignoring the good work done by BJP from 2014 and tarnishing the image.

  • @milindapanha
    @milindapanha 2 года назад +18

    So if BJP had acted with alacrity it would have been undemocratic and if it acted slowly it was doing so for electoral gains. Fantastic!!

  • @nijilanand
    @nijilanand 2 года назад +50

    Some of CPIM leaders openly challenged the ban of PFI.
    Muslim league and AIMIM support the ban of PFI because PFI/sdpi were eating the vote of respective party.
    One main reason for ban is hartal conducted after raid and arrest of PFI leaders...

    • @madara7305
      @madara7305 2 года назад +4

      First of all they don't support the ban , just hear Owaisi thoughts on it he clearly quoted that ki pfi ke tariko se ashamti thi par ban ko oppose krta hu.

    • @ashiq7332
      @ashiq7332 2 года назад +6

      Here in kerala pfi and cpim have alliances in many areas

    • @shyambajekal8084
      @shyambajekal8084 2 года назад +1

      Even the Congress 'leader', (I think it was D. K. Shivakumar) who also said, "ban the RSS!" Bull... RSS is not an extremist organisation for one and it is not out to _destroy_ the country, like these fellows are.

  • @Drkp23
    @Drkp23 2 года назад +8

    Surprising that PFI was not very active or famous in states like Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal, Telangana etc with significant Muslim population…

    • @Gr8putin
      @Gr8putin 2 года назад +1

      Good observation

    • @MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA
      @MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA 2 года назад +6

      Becoz RSS Is active In Hindi Heartland & BJP Governed States.

  • @7hills812
    @7hills812 2 года назад +13

    So, SG says ‘Print is a decent organization’ and does not use the Italian leaders speech because he could not know if it was copyrighted. But, without any basis, he asserts that BJP did not ban PFI because it was politically convenient. Oh! Forgot to tell you that Congress lawyers argued on PFI side. Runs pictures of RSS while talking about PFI. Only thing the Print is ‘un-hyphenated’ from is shame.

    • @ykps1978
      @ykps1978 2 года назад

      spot on analysis.

  • @nishantgarg2485
    @nishantgarg2485 2 года назад +61

    SG please keep them long, love your style of journalism, keep it the way it is with stories and cricket references

  • @ashutoshdeuskar65
    @ashutoshdeuskar65 2 года назад +13

    Come on SG.. every name you mentioned has said one thing and one thing only... That PFI is bad but so is RSS. Why they did not do it without this qualification.. that's the clutter I expected you to declutter.. what you have done is news reading

    • @nameall2808
      @nameall2808 2 года назад

      Because rss doesn't involve in terrorism

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад +1

      Well, I take your criticism. These statements come from politics. There is no clutter there…thanks for writing in..shekhar

  • @LightPlays012
    @LightPlays012 2 года назад +6

    What a spin man you managed to blame BJP, well I respect the hustle man have to earn bread and butter

  • @thayiljoseph277
    @thayiljoseph277 2 года назад +4

    Ban is long overdue, thankfully Modiji took correct decision, since successive kerala ruling parties , both Congress and Communists are continuously competing in appeasing Muslims, to such an extent that it will be difficult for both Hindus and Christians to exist in Kerala ,in future

  • @dayalsambhwani8888
    @dayalsambhwani8888 2 года назад +12

    Very strange comment action delayed by BJP Intentionally 😂.
    The fact is BJP waited to ensure no objection from opposing parties . Hats off to them just like article 370 this also done smoothly

  • @bhai857
    @bhai857 2 года назад +22

    *Indian Govt. consults Muslim Bodies and bans PFI
    Indian Muslim Bodies: we support the govt. move
    meanwhile Western Media: One more example of how Modi govt. is suppressing the voice of minorities.

  • @gajinik4308
    @gajinik4308 2 года назад +4

    starting 18:14 What an educated speculation Shekhar sir?! If BJP don't ban extremist organization it is 'BJP politics', 'Polarization', if BJP banned earlier you would have speculated as 'BJP Politics', Hindu Polarization etc.. Thankfully you did not speculate PFI was backed by BJP.. 😆 . I guess you are haunted with 'Politics by BJP' for every happening in India 🙃.. Real reasons for the rise in BJP is their outreach on public welfare schemes and because of so called minorities community mindset. We know you don't appreciate the government on the move, atleast you should have give credits to all the officials who had done this nationwide crackdown smoothly. Good job sir!

  • @ankitsingh3155
    @ankitsingh3155 2 года назад +6

    Owaisi's comment was most amusing and stupid imo, on one hand he criticises PFI and on the other hand, he links it with banning other Muslim organisations. I mean if you do notorious things, you should be banned, isn't it? What else one could do?

  • @savithakl7577
    @savithakl7577 2 года назад +6

    People in liberal media like Shekhar Gupta have supported PFI indirectly by supporting likes of Safoora Zargar or S Kappan or Rana Ayyub. Waiting for Kapil Sibal to fight for PFI along with lawyers like Indira Jaising who all worked on Hadiya case for free. In case of Hadiya the poor father did everything to save his daughter from PFI clutches, Kerala HC for a change went with father but likes of Kapil Sibal supported PFI. PFI spent to close of 1 crore by getting media to talk on rights of choice with Barkha, Sagarika, Rana and even Shekhar defended Hadiya choice thereby supporting PFI.

  • @advaitr7582
    @advaitr7582 2 года назад +15

    One thing is true from all opposition parties messages (pro- Muslims, or Muslim vote bank parties) that they are Soft in criticize and trying NOT much to lose their votes, Everything for votes..

    • @user-ey3dh8gs4j
      @user-ey3dh8gs4j 2 года назад

      @@ycs9985 hindu population is now 75% only, if this continued then india will be islamic rashtra and then every religion will be in danger.

  • @arjuniyer5047
    @arjuniyer5047 2 года назад +17

    Jamaat-ul-this, Jamaat-ul-that hahaha this is gold xD

  • @user-hw8os4dx6l
    @user-hw8os4dx6l 2 года назад +2

    Seriously Shekhar? To reduce everything to politics to justify not banning PFI all these years is quite lame and lazy. Before taking any such major decisions which may have far reaching support, one needs to take a lot of factors into account - evidence gathering (even now quite a few are challenging the legal validity of this move), assessing the impact on the overall social harmony, understanding the larger network of these organisations etc.

  • @prasannarajendran9315
    @prasannarajendran9315 2 года назад +80

    I really appreciate the effort SG puts into these cut the clutter and we really don't mind a 30 min CTC..

    • @akshytube
      @akshytube 2 года назад

      To prove that BJP is wrong and what ever BJP does is for politics.

  • @Hayat-singh
    @Hayat-singh 2 года назад +6

    All kinds of communilism is bad but all kinds of appeasement politics is equally bad

  • @vamsi9855
    @vamsi9855 2 года назад +3

    Doesn’t your educated guess don’t see the point that the evidence required to do this much massive operation do need time? At least speak of all possible reasons and let people make the guess …

  • @manomano2524
    @manomano2524 2 года назад +3

    SDPI in tamilnadu making more worse than PFI and recently they bombed in multiple places by petrolbombs(moloyov cocktail) and Sdpi leaders were against the police and govt by saying they didn't throw even though they found on CCTV camera

  • @thenoone4892
    @thenoone4892 2 года назад +5

    leaving this comment for reminder-
    by the year of 2050 which ever party rule center there will be AFSPA ,internet ban, in Kerala.

  • @spraveeny
    @spraveeny 2 года назад +5

    Why convicted criminal Lalu opinion matters?

  • @viralshah2447
    @viralshah2447 2 года назад +4

    I really enjoy Cut the Clutter for its objective view on current affairs. Unfortunately this episode reeked with anti BJP bias. You are not in a position to comment on who are the secular and communal forces in Indian politics. The Vajpayee government banned SIMI a step which no Congress government took - better late than never. In my humble opinion, the facts should be presented as they are without any judgement. The lady 10 minutes of the video about the BJP strategy were uncalled for.

  • @chaitanyakandwal7827
    @chaitanyakandwal7827 2 года назад +62

    We want every topic be given its fair share. Some topics are more cluttered, they deserve more time.

  • @gunasagaran1
    @gunasagaran1 2 года назад +3

    ALWAYS blames it on BJP.

    • @12345614489
      @12345614489 Год назад

      Sheher ji always blame BJP for everything

  • @rajx7120
    @rajx7120 2 года назад +14

    Now that PFI is banned, can we expect UCC, CAA and NRC to be implemented ?

    • @johndoe-vc1we
      @johndoe-vc1we 2 года назад

      Interesting question. In effect the fear was there would be chaos by this outfit.

  • @jaisalsanghvi
    @jaisalsanghvi 2 года назад +7

    The assumption that an active PFI wins votes for BJP is flawed. PFI isn't the beginning or the end of this issue. PFI is a product of it's environment and it's that environment which pushes people to vote one way or the other. Most people aren't political minded or keep up with the activities of organisations like PFI but they are perceptive to their environment. Now, if the argument was that banning PFI will win votes for BJP, that's much more plausible.

  • @FahadHasin
    @FahadHasin 2 года назад +6

    I am frankly agnostic to the length of CTC episodes - I'd like you to take longer if you think the topics requires depth. Few extra minutes is not that big of a deal. In any case, I listen on 2x speed; so a 30 minute episode takes 15 minutes to listen

  • @anurag4722
    @anurag4722 2 года назад +2

    Udaipur incident shows what is real Islam is. Issi liye bjp active hui aur PFI ko ban kiya

  • @ontisalaga1789
    @ontisalaga1789 2 года назад +20

    I never felt they were, long. Please Sir keep it as long as required.
    They are always engrossing.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад +1

      Thank youVibhu…we will try and find a balance..I take your point..best wishes..shekhar

  • @nicolasflamel3489
    @nicolasflamel3489 2 года назад +2

    Used to watch ThePrint before. Not anymore. It has given space to too many anti-Bharat voices/writers.
    Won't compromise with Bharat, come what may.

  • @srinivasanr1565
    @srinivasanr1565 2 года назад +3

    most useless ending or conclusion..... not worth your standards.
    you have NOT bothered to point out that there are some political parties that have NOT supported the ban while have tried to deflect it on to RSS thereby 'justifying' the PFI and its action.
    I dont know what prompted your trying carpet sweep this major anomaly. that point has a lot of relevance as these parties have been benefitted and are hand in glove with it they should have been exposed.
    you had only focused on the 'mollycoddling' the issue and rather look into it as a BJP thriving on PFI and its action.
    A sham and A Shame of a report.

  • @Amuzic_Earth
    @Amuzic_Earth 2 года назад +10

    Please don't fall for RUclips algorithm and don't be like most youtubers with hurried speech, quick cuts etc. One of the reasons I (and i am sure many others) prefer watching you is the laid back calm analysis. That's good for the brain like reading a book, the info gets assimilated and added to knowledge. Quick, junk food like videos may be good for attracting people with short attention span but not for serious subjects that you delve in.

  • @srinisbir8781
    @srinisbir8781 2 года назад +4

    PFI holding a Yoga camp🤣🤣😂😁😆. At least, they could have claimed of holding a Namaaz camp. Come one PFI, such a white lie.

  • @subramanianiyer374
    @subramanianiyer374 2 года назад +3

    SG is a chamcha of congress. Always presents one sided story. Please be fair in your view. Why congress did not ban Pfi?. Can SG come out with a view on that.

  • @Kenkalsi
    @Kenkalsi 2 года назад +3

    I think there should be no arrest and there should be no property left under name of anti national guy.
    All their properties must be attached.
    I am always writing that properties of Khalistanis must be confisicated in India but Indian Govt is keeping these anti India rats. Look like Indian Govt uses them to push Canada. Otherwise how these guys are doing anti India rallies while their families are living like kings in India.
    Its high time to make beggers out of these anti India Kings.
    Must be punished.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад

      Well, you have strong views! Do keep writing in..Shekhar

  • @GauravSokhi
    @GauravSokhi 2 года назад +20

    I was waiting for PFI analysis for a while, thanks Mr. Gupta. I personally prefer CTCs with some of your professional stories, 20 mins might not give you time to include them.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад

      Thank you Gaurav. We will try to find a balance…do stay in touch…best wishes..shekhar

    • @user-ey3dh8gs4j
      @user-ey3dh8gs4j 2 года назад

      @@ThePrintIndia wait for u'r karmafal, u will be punished by lord vishnu for supporting wrong things, mark my words

  • @pradipkumarmitra7412
    @pradipkumarmitra7412 Год назад +3

    The guy actually supports anti - India forces, survives on foreign money, yet asks for subscription in the name of journalism.

  • @marathes
    @marathes 2 года назад +2

    As expected, SG did not finish the episode without hitting Bjp and spitting venom on them. BJP used PFI for their politics ? And to hit Congress? Why did congress and left didn’t talk a word against PFI so far ? Why did Karnataka dismissed 170+ cases against PFI several years ago ? To help Bjp? What a joker. And now Bjp didn’t ban pfi (and everybody agrees with that, in his own words) to protect our national integrity, but only because pfi has grown too deep? Bjp cannot do any good other than playing politics ? You are polarised not Bjp. Sorry for your biased journalism, supported by your ideologies behind the Weil of data/research. I hear you only to understand your version of the story…

  • @nitinpatel1039
    @nitinpatel1039 2 года назад +6

    I have a question why such faction come up only in South, when we are seing whipping out of moist, j and k insurgency and NE insurgency, we are seing these terror outfit in South, Politics of appeasement is one of the principle cause of this

  • @atuldeshpande3228
    @atuldeshpande3228 2 года назад +2

    PFI is nothing but modern day Razakars. Just like Sardar Patel took police action and crushed Razakars during merger of Nizam's Hyderabad into India. Similarly action is required by Indian state to crush PFI otherwise they will break Kerala from India

  • @homeless007
    @homeless007 2 года назад +3

    Hindu rastra, read that again, the glorious past

  • @georjopius5962
    @georjopius5962 2 года назад +2

    Sir please listen to your conclusion again and again. 😂😂😂. Finally everything you want to connect with BJP.😂😂 No blame for the other parties which ruled the centre earlier. 🙈

  • @ganeshdore
    @ganeshdore 2 года назад +2

    Shekhar Gupta never took up PFI as a topic ..cuz he is a anti BJP guy ...Vampanthi ...Urban maoist ... Khan market thinking ... and Pro Amir Khan

  • @prakhargupta1405
    @prakhargupta1405 2 года назад +4

    Thank God not many people watch this one sided propaganda, the way he twisted the facts is unbelievable 😂

  • @shubh1694
    @shubh1694 2 года назад +2

    Sir ur left leaning journalist ....simi flourished because of congress yet you blamed atal bihari for most part ... hypocrisy ki bhi Seema hoti hai ......

  • @srinisbir8781
    @srinisbir8781 2 года назад +3

    Most of Muslims in Kerala are in Northern area of Kozhikode (formerly Calicut). Most of christians are in Cochin (central part), and rest of people (Hindus) are in Southern part, Tiruvanathapuram and down.

  • @akshytube
    @akshytube 2 года назад +2

    SG always find fault wit BJP, looks the the world/India (his) was very heaven before BJP.

  • @parvadhami980
    @parvadhami980 2 года назад +7

    Interesting to note that most of these Islamist organisation/Political parties were founded or have a strong hold in the "Secular, Well-off" South India, rather than North India where BJP holds sway.

    • @nrusimha11
      @nrusimha11 2 года назад +1

      southern and northern India, if you please; and yes, seems to be generally true, although UP bears the brunt.

  • @RajendraYadav-sc8yr
    @RajendraYadav-sc8yr 2 года назад +2

    Sorry SG, Congress is in collaboration with PFI & have fought elections with PFI.

  • @karthikyadav826
    @karthikyadav826 2 года назад +28

    Shekhar Sir's 15 to 20 mins episode is an optimal time for an episode that declutters the topic as well as gives depth and broad knowledge as well. This is also a great episode as usual your effort to reduce the episode time is going well. By the way, we love your voice it's not boring at all. 😀. Watching your episode is time well spent.

  • @drtgopalakrishnan
    @drtgopalakrishnan 2 года назад +1

    You gave a good presentation then as usual you blamed BJP. Banning request came from Kerala, Jharkhand and Assam none were BJP state. This is a Democratic Country, need proper tools to Ban to avoid being overturned by Supreme Court.

  • @Valkyri3Z
    @Valkyri3Z 2 года назад +3

    What SG explains it seems there is not much difference between RSS and PFI ..LOL or even SIMI for that matter.

  • @sanjeevtiwari8347
    @sanjeevtiwari8347 2 года назад +2

    True to your ideology you have in a way blamed BJP for waking up too late on PFI , but conveniently forgot 10 long years of Congress government, they didn't act even if Pfi was hurting them.
    If BJP had acted prematurely and the case would have fallen flat at SC , you would have been the first channel to denounce BJP. Heads you lose tails I win is the situation.

  • @shivaprasad8085
    @shivaprasad8085 2 года назад +6

    Better late than never. It is a clandestine cover criminal organisation. I had the opportunity to investigate and interact with these people. They are comparable to ISIS
    But the problem is that they have been cleverly operating as a progressive organisation.
    I have not seen a organisation more dangerous than PFI. .

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад

      Well, as I said organizations like this keep morphing into other variants. So it is a constant tussle…thanks for writing in…shekhar

  • @Codetutor-DemystifyCoding
    @Codetutor-DemystifyCoding 2 года назад +2

    I agree with most of other comments here. 20 mins might be too short. If the subject merits 30 mins of CTC, it's not that bad after all. Let the material dictate the length of CTC, but let the time length be not more than early 30s. After that it starts to feel bit long.

  • @sanjaydawda324
    @sanjaydawda324 2 года назад +3

    RSS 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

  • @pranpeshin7171
    @pranpeshin7171 2 года назад +2

    Shekhar ji is always biased against BJP. So I just watch facts narrated by him and make my own conclusion.

  • @vatsaakhil
    @vatsaakhil 2 года назад +37

    I love a 30 min+ CTC 😃

  • @flyjamesmartin
    @flyjamesmartin 2 года назад +2

    PFI was banned at the right moment, just a few month before the elections in Karnataka. Also, they were becoming a threat to BJP (and to society at large) so it a good that PFI was banned. PFI was largly responsible for the riots in Bangalore, a very shameful incident.

  • @beholdmaverick7121
    @beholdmaverick7121 2 года назад +1

    Please get you facts straight, Mr. Shekar. Most of the time I know you are right but this time you are just fumbling. In Kerala many Panchayats are governed by CPI(M) with the full support from SDPI (Political wing of PFI). Both Left and Right (UDF and LDF) governments in Kerala have been nurturing and pampering PFI for all these years, since it's inception. One could easily see how deep-rooted these monsters are in the state of Kerala by just looking at the havoc and destruction they caused on the recent Hartal. Many Indian Union Muslim League (IUML) members work stealthily for PFI in the night and become secular in broad day light. There is an awful nexus between, CPI(M)-SDP and UDF-SDP in Kerala. Let me correct you, all most in all Malayalam channel debates Congress and Communist panelists are spending more time drawing equivalence between RSS and the filthy PFI thereby diluting the gravity of terrorist activities slapped on PFI by NIA. Only a brain dead, stupid vermin can dare compare the great nationalist Organization RSS with the scumbag and pukes like PFI, SDPI.. etc.

  • @libshastra
    @libshastra 2 года назад +9

    We need seriously good casework and convictions. PFI wasn't founded solely because of domestic politics, similar to SIMI, it has consistent foreign support and funding. To go after them you need solid casework and convictions in our Judiciary.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  2 года назад +1

      PFI is certainly a very dodgy organization, I agree…thanks for writing in..shekhar

    • @bkp95
      @bkp95 2 года назад

      @@ThePrintIndia it was a dodgy organisation as you are talking now but still you did not covered it because it may have cancelled your certificate of secularism.

  • @bobkr156
    @bobkr156 2 года назад +1

    So I got it Shekar Sir.....you mean to say that the organisation which formed in 2007 and began to show its terrorism inclination from 2011 onwards was not band from 2011 itself because it suited the BJP. Meaning Manmohan Govt and the Congress state govt were actually working for BJP. OK. So is it also means that SIMI, which was formed in 70s and soon shown its terrorism inclination was not bend by Congress, Janta or Third front Govt because they wanted BJP to grow. So ultimately every political party is actually secretlly working for the growth of BJP. That's why Siddaramaiah govt drop PFI cases. That's a revelation.

  • @raolatchireddi
    @raolatchireddi 2 года назад +3

    You are so smart, but why didn’t you speak about atrocities of PFI until now. You are a journalist, you are expected to speak these things before the political action.
    It shows your character

  • @117flood4
    @117flood4 2 года назад +1

    I made a hateful comment. But after knowing the reaction of IUML. I deleted it. My faith prevailed. That is why true neutral journalism matters. That is why Muslims protesting for right things matters instead of blindly defending anything Islamic. Thank you "The Print" - I will consider donating for neutral positive journalism. (Note: Don't ever be like Quint, WIre and Aljazeera. U know what I mean )

  • @AnirudhPsychPixel
    @AnirudhPsychPixel 2 года назад +5

    Since this is on youtube where 'long form podcast' are so successful. People are use to long conversations/monologues. and actually like it. I think reducing epsiode length is great for monetization but for long term visibility - the epsiode length should increase as and when required by the topic.

  • @hirenbafna
    @hirenbafna 2 года назад +1

    The CTC did not cut the clutter on why the SIMI & PFI kind of organization has flourished in southern states and especially in Kerala. Can you do a CTC on this? Kerala has 100% literacy; it has so called secular government for decades still this has happened? Many people expected this kind of thing to start from Northern states but it's been the opposite. When will the so called Secular parties (lalus, cpis, sps etc.) understand that if they keep supporting the violent & rabid organizations like PFI even the MUSLIMS will turn their back on them. Will INC now go away from parties like IUML?

  • @kirankoti6316
    @kirankoti6316 2 года назад +1

    For every action BJP takes,our Shekhar sir will cite polarisation and electoral gains.
    There is no need for BJP to do polarisation anymore.Electorate is already polarised.Will Muslims in Karnataka and Kerala ever vote for BJP?Never
    This analysis is flawed to the core.This time NIA has enough evidence to produce in the court of law in case of any challenge.
    In the name of cut the clutter,Isn't Shekahr adding more clutter this time?😂
    One question he fails to ask is why UPA didn't ban PFI??

  • @1331tejas
    @1331tejas 2 года назад +12

    Happy to have you do longer episodes… all angles covered

  • @vineetshrivastava6249
    @vineetshrivastava6249 2 года назад +1

    I read an scientific article which says, if you want to have your city/ state/ country sanitized from stray/ street dogs.
    YOU NEED TO ACT FAST- capture, sterilize all dogs with in 2 months to have long lasting peace. Else process wont be effective, because dogs breed very fast and grow very rapidly due availability of waste food and dog lover( I don't mean indgineous secular-socialist)
    Note: This has been written to the SG to understand why the government has not acted piecemeal, incident by incident)