I Bought A Fake Greeny ... How Bad Or Good Is It? Kirk Hammett Might Actually Like This Thing!
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2023
- In this video we take an up close and in depth look at a Chibson Les Paul Greeny I purchased on line for just over $300. I was curious how good or bad this thing actually would be. I think the results will surprise you. I not only film the guitar in detail but provide a lengthy tone demonstration showcasing different tones and settings. I will never (and never would) opt to purchase the 20K version of this guitar, so in a way I feel justified in purchasing this guitar since the originals are so far out of reach for most of us (All of us LOL). So this was really just a fun experiment. Shortly I will do a pickup upgrade to some custom TNTones pickups being sent my way. They will be wound like Green Pickups with the out of phase option with the neck pickup in the middle toggle position. I also plan on upgrading the volume and tone pots along with the 3 way toggle switch. I hope you enjoy the video. Please subscribe!
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A few years back I bought a Jimmy Page model off AliExpress. After replacing all the hardware, levelling and dressing the frets, I had a great playing and sounding guitar that didn’t break the bank.
The quality looks like it’s improved.
It's definitely a fun thing to play something that looks & sounds like the guitars you grew up listening to... and on the cheap! haha
Definitely. Coincidentally ever since the Epiphone factory moved its production to China, that it’s seemed like the Chibson’s have really stepped up in quality. I’m not one for spreading rumors but the quality jump since the company moved to China, the Chibsons are noticeably different. Seems like today they actually use real maple caps with thin veneers overs the top, real mahogany neck and on some standard and most custom models, you actually have a chance you might find one with an actual ebony board. Also recently found out they do indeed use real mother of pearl inlays, just not near as nice as Gibson’s. But still that’s a lot in a guitar for the money.
Sounds really good, not what I was expecting at all, solid purchase man
Great purchase. Looks great, sounds awesome. Can’t wait to see the changes you make on it.
It looks great. It sounds great. I hope the neck feels good. Very curious about these as a project guitar. Thanks for making this video. Subscribed.
Dude, awesome video. Sounds pretty good to my ears already. Looking forward to the next video with upgrades.
Sounds pretty darn good. Look forward to seeing/ hearing the changes you make. Great job love what you do on your channel.
Thanks so much man. I appreciate it! 😎🤟🏻
Sounds and looks fantastic! Perfect copy to take out playing and not be terrified to let it out of your sight!
@profoundsinger excellent point! 😳🎸
Indeed! Surprised how good it sounds out of the box!
You'll be gigging this guitar whilst someone will be breaking in at home to steal your good one.
@@Rich6Brew Na, his watchdog will eat them
I’m shocked that it plays lol
I work for a furniture store years ago when I was in my early twenties where they manufactured furniture and a lot of it had to look like antique furniture. so we had to smack everything up with a big Ring full of keys and different ways of dinging the surface to make it look like it's old and then painting it to look like a real antique and you couldn't tell the difference, but they were obviously less expensive than the real antiques. It was a very interesting job and I learned a lot they had some really cool stuff to repair broken furniture and you couldn't tell where the thing was ever broken I was good at that stuff😎
Even if BOUGHT it hang on the wall as art its Pretty cool ,
Ok, yeah that sounds really good! With minimal work so far, really liking the tones. Can't wait to see what else you do to it. Might have to get one myself but I know it can be a crap shoot when it comes to knock offs. Thank you for the video. Subscribed!
Crap shoot. I've spent more in a casino with nothing to show for it.
Dang! That sounds awesome. It'll be interesting to hear if there's that much difference with the change in pickups😮
Thanks! I look forward to the upgrades and filming part two soon!
@@Ranch5150SkinWalkerMarty....i am just blown away !!
And that is all factory pickups and setup ??
Holy cow !!
Plzzzz can you kind of tell us how to fond that webpage ??
Not to do harm to the original market !!
Is just for decor purposes !!
Ther are some of us that dont have 20 grands to hand up on our walls !!
Hehehe
The looks are amazing !!
Once again proving that amps are more important to tone then the actual pickups
Glenn would be proud of you. You have acended.
Great content as always
Wow I’m pretty impressed! I never thought I would be blown away by a Chibson but yeah I’m really surprised! Your chops were crushing as well!
I really wann see what it sounds like with your upgrades!
Man this chibson are getting better and better. Looks and sounds great 👍
i love the way it sounds this is one of my favorite channels too
Looks and sounds beautiful, well played and great review. Nice one.
Right on Marty! I dig ti. Well done man, cheers!
Thanks bro!
From a distance, if you said you got a Gibson Greeny, I would totally have believed it! Like you said, even as wall art, it would be great! Neck pickup sounds better than the bridge pickup. Can't wait for part 2. Even though i think putting expensive parts in this makes no sense!
I played it at a rehearsal tonight and it held up well. I was impressed for what it is. It's pretty awesome. Thanks man!
Agree! Do Not expense this out! Didn’t get to the “warm” finger picking mood riffs but hey we’re talking electronics and fretboard strings, right? Adjusted or not, this is a $4k guitar.
Hoovies Garage! I see ya. You def got me closer to pulling the trigger on one of these. That thing's a gem and you saved a fair bit of money
Sounds great in your hands Marty! I've always been in the camp that looks at these things as counterfeit Gibsons and honestly wouldn't have a problem with it if it didn't say Gibson on the headstock. Now if it said...Gibsin... that would be cool and I'd be all for it! Long live Rock n' Roll !!! 😂🤘🎸
Check it out at 3.04...I think it says Gibsun 🧐😉😁
It does say Gibsun. Very nice
A guitar shop I used to hang out at had a guitar someone had bought in person in the orient. It was a GIvson. The guy who bought it was friends with the shop owner and gave it to him. He had to do a lot of work to make it playable.
It was cool. Imagine something like a Florentine cut Brydland but with no pickups or pots. It was super light, felt like it was made of paper.
As a real les paul owner..... I'm cool with chibsons. As long as you're not trying to pass it off as real. Besides, I'd rather take that to a gig than my real one!
Same, honestly. I bought a Donner Telecaster style guitar and after a few upgrades, It's a beast. EMG T-Series pickups, locking tuners and new fender string trees. Plays great.
I'm totally OK rubbing off the GIbson logo and basically using these like a base kit to build an "homage" to some of my favorite guitar players & their guitars. Definitely a "just for me" kind of thing
Past owner of 3 70's Kalamazoo artisans and numerous other LP's including a cherry in the 80's, and a natural w a maple neck in 2011, I obviously have a spot for the real thing, cost is a HUGE problem but....last thing America needs is more Chinese goods coming in. sorry
Exactly, can't replace vintage gear to replace vintage gear owned for forty plus years.
Also bought the Gary Moore relic for 307.00 love it .took 2 months to get here but exceeded my expectations, and keep it out ready to play and keep the oldies locked up.
i bought one of these also. I had to adjust the truss rod as it would not play around the 7 fret.. got it dialed in. I also bought the real deal for 3100 bucks.. I have to say, I like the Chibson better.. there are so many issues with the real deal it's unreal.. I had to sand the neck to a reasonable size. It had bulbous sides and a lump under the wood near the neck/body connection. The nut sucks and sticks, the strings plink out. One knob was broken when it got here.. I almost returned it. I'm still working on it. Personally it's really hard to tell the dif in pickup sound.. my Chibson also has the dime sized Pots.. will put new electronics in it. Can't wait to see how you upgrade yours. This is not my first Chibson.. I have many, one already upgraded and that one sounds really different from my others.. so I was surprised that this Greeny sounded so good comparatively speaking. Have fun.
If a feller was handy he could build a wood frame around that foam packaging and skin it with thin plywood and case material, use the already supplied guitar shape on the inside and glue some type of fabric to it, screw handles locks and protective corners to it and you have a nice custom case for your Geeeeeiinah guitar!
I ordered one too yesterday. Will be here next week if everything works. Well, if it's not as good as yours, it'll serve as a very cool wall decoration.
Very nice! Sounds pretty good without any mods.
Sounds good to me... just curious about specs... nut width for one.
Where did you get it?
Marty, nice Review,,for under $ 610.00
I bought a Telecaster, Stratocaster, Les Paul,, Gibson style hollowbody, & a 6 string bass, all China made, each month I expected to get ripped off, to my amazement they all proved to be very well built, usual same woods, electronics and hardware was amazingly high quality.
Grabbed them cheaper early this year now the prizes are climbing. So I had a feeling the 90.$ Tele, the $150 Les Paul were going to increase in price, all sellers did, Thanks for your guitar tips brother.
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Does your silent ending with no comment mean that you were possibly satisfied with the Chinese knock off?
Great sounding pickups for a Chibson. You lucked out!
I purchased a fake Ace Frehley budokan guitar nearly 3 years ago, absolute love it, stays in tune, and still has the original strings. Id say its almost up there with Epiphone, paid $370 AUS$, came to my door in 7 days flat
Sounds great. What setup are you using when you start to play night train riffs?
Thanks, for RUclips I run a Fractal AX8. Most of the time it's the Freidman BE amp setting with Friedman IR's from ML labs.
This sounds awesome !!
Unbelievable !
It looks and sounds fabulous.
Can you link to where you bought this guitar?
I enjoy your channel Marty !!
Thanks bro!! I really appreciate the support man. 😎🍺
What website did you order this from? It's pretty cool, and I was wondering if I can get a guitar from there.
Very cool.
Did you get it from Aliexpress or dhgate?
And which store?
Thanks!
sounds so good man
Whats your guys seller of choice? I bought a chibson 8 years ago, there are a lot of sellers but have no idea wich to choose
That actually sounds pretty killa for a chibson & looks pretty good too 🤘🤘
Looks Great.. I agree about the neck... I bet it will be Awesome with new pots & pickups.. Most of the Chinese Guitars my wife & I get are actually in cardboard not foam.. You could use the foam for a wooden Case if you make it...
That's a great idea.
where did you buy this I would like to get one
If you dont mind , who is the seller ? I got one several years ago to relic and was not playable . the frets spacing was off and had an oversized pickup cavity and seller would not communicate . Thanks
Great video! I got a relic'ed one last October. By the looks of yours, it looks like mine came from the same manufacturer as the fit and finish looks very, very similar. Mine's supposed to be a relic'ed '59 in dark sunburst, I turned it into a little Slash project and turned out great. Electronics and hardware aside, it's pretty well made and it even came with a well cut bone nut!
Very cool!! 😎
I love seeing that yellow taped box turn up at my door.
Hi you do a great video demo I’m impressed,can you please tell me which shop you got it off if possible or maybe a link,much appreciated 🎸🎸🎸
Hey Marty, I bought one of these (non-relic'd) Chibson Greenies about a year or so ago. I think I paid like 200 or 250 shipped. I love the guitar. I couldn't believe the quality---and for me, a very casual, at-home, non-gigging player, the guitar is close enough to the real thing for me. I found myself before ordering and after watching every Greenie documentary I could find. Happy I didn't have to pay what Hammett did, lol
I look forward to your series on this. Thanks 👍
where do you buy these at?
@@green461 by the hoo, it is legal to own at least one of these. As long as you aren't looking to resell it and/or advertise as the real thing. Based on my unsupported Google research, there is a slim chance it can get seized by customs and you will get a nasty letter from Gibson's lawyers. But for the most part, they are going after the major buyers and resellers. So order one at a time and be happy.
They let US citizens who have traveled abroad and bought a counterfeit item at least 1 item, because there is so much of this going on, and again, as long as it is for your personal use and you don't intend to sell it, you're fine. More info than you may have wanted, but questions I had before and during ordering.
@@dougsmaintenanceshop5868 Thanks, I did some research and found some. I want one to mess around with, i like rewiring, building them, basically a test mule and dont want to take apart and modify my real one. I ordered 2 off ebay, (different sellers) one greenie and then another R9 one. One was 100. so my expectations are low, if i can go through them and they are good enough platforms to replace everything cool.. if not they will be living room wall decorations. If the greenie sets up well i'll put some SD green magic pickups in, set it up like the real one, and have a nice sounding LP that i dont care if gets scratched... a beater kind of. and the other one to do some R&D work on.. to see what i can make of it.
Awesome Marty.I don’t know how much better a guitar can get for $300!!!!!
Sounds beautiful
I agree! I think I got lucky on this one!
@@Ranch5150SkinWalkercan you share the link to purchase this?
@@devingoldberg4518 it was on eBay. But taken down a while back. Sorry man.
Looks good, sounds good, onley the test off time will tell!
Do these Chibson guitars typically have an authentic looking set of logos on the headstock? The photos in the listings never have pics of the headstock so that’s always been a mystery. Thanks.
I guess it pushes legalities too far to post them with Logos. 🤷
Hey Marty, how much does it weigh? Since it's an alder body, I assume not very heavy? Also, how does this get through customs?
Man it's pretty light. I haven't weighed it but it's probably 8 pounds. The top is kinda thin which helped too. It really breathes with the light weight.
It’s awesome , with the price tag of vehicles the manufacturer should give them away , spare tire , & car jack to the buyers , they make more than enough profit
What a great sounding guitar and what a price!
Stunning looking and sounding bit of kit...where do you get one from?
Could you divulge which company you purchase it from or website? I'm a lefty and want to see if they could make a lefty Chibson model
Sure man!
www.ebay.com/itm/314638799590?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=h2wbkofnrse&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=ddjz77XhRwu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Damn you Brian !!!! You put a mark on my new Relic'd guitar !
Wow I’m impressed I’d like to purchase one myself. Do you have the link or any information I could get one would be much appreciated
Really surprised how damn good it sounds right from China! intonation on the neck sounds tight. I would definitely feel good about that purchase!!!
What a great guitar for pubs and clubs. You definitely wont be shit scared to leave it unattended on the stage. I love the Japanese knockoffs Like Greco. Also look good and sound great, just put in a great pair of pickups and way to go. Great value for money.
Can you put the link up to buy this bud? Mite to order one
You need to flip the magnet in the neck pickup to get the Greeny sound in the middle position. Once you do that, it won't matter which way you have the pickup facing,
True. I have a set of custom wound greeny pickups being mailed to me by a sponsor. Should get them Saturday ... there will be a part 2. 😎🍺
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker awesome 👌
100% Correct. Turning the pickup around doesn't change the magnets relationship with the coil . Need to flip mag or swap the wires around on the potentiometer (easier)
Cool stuff no idea how it made it thru customs - how long did it take to get it
This one took about 2.5 weeks. It was promised by end of July.
Thanks Buddy
Dude where are you getting that distorted tone from? Sounds massive
You either got lucky, or that is one HELL of a bargain! I would be happy with it as it is, regardless of upgrades.
That is what I was going to say, but could not put it into words. Thanks.
It looks and sounds great! I bought two Chibsons (LP and ES-345) and a Chickenbacker 325 within the last two years and with minimal setup time by myself, they sound and look great. And as several commenters have said, why take the chance at a gig of having your "legit" guitars stolen or puked on? As long as you don't sell them as OEM guitars I don't see a problem with it at all. Plus, replacement parts sales for electronics and hardware on these copies drives a lot of $$$ back into the pockets of the companies we "cheated" on.
I can just imagine somebody coming up and puking on your guitar in a club. That would be bad, it happens all the time.
@@davidmarks5400 Indeed it was. A bar patron stumbled up to us during a break and asked if we could play Freebird. Then projectile vomited on my 1970 Les Paul Custom. Luckily, it washed off easily. But that was it for taking an expensive guitar out in public.
@@ishatype2764 Yeah, I've seen and heard just about everything out there-never seen or had one puked on though. Never had one stolen either during breaks or loading-unloading,one of us was always watching like a hawk.
I’m glad you bought a solid replica. It looks and sounds great.
Maybe I’ll buy that ace Frehley copy I’ve been eyeballing.
This guitar looks and sounds great
Is there a link you could send so i
might aquire one for myself??
sorry if you covered this but can you tell us where you bought it from? want one. thanks.
It was eBay. They took it down. 🤷
are the volume and tone knobs normal for this guitar?
Do you have a lead where I can buy one? Most I see I cant see the headstock...
They just hide it so they don't get in trouble. 👍
I'm blown away not gonna lie, I build guitars so I know what goes into a build like that, how are they doing that for under $400 even with cheap parts and CNC machines? If you don't know what you are looking at you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between this guitar and an actual Gibson, crazy!
I am not a guitar builder but I would guess they price is low due to the hardware, cheap electronics, multiple piece mahogany like/relative body, less good quality (possibly soft instead of hard) maple with veneer, cheaper workforce, probably 0 or very minimal marketing expenses etc
How do they make these at such a low sale price?
Either slave labor, or with subsidies from the CCP or both.
Awesome vid, do you have a link to the store you used? Cheers
I’m afraid it will still sound tinny no matter how many things get swapped out. No sack at all. Wall art for sure. Thanks for the video. Well done!
Sounds killer!!!
The website you ordered the instrument from seems to be down. Does anyone know more about this?
Hi can you please let me know what the name of the company you purchased it from..thank you
The Bridge Pickup sounds great, the Neck Pickup sounds like not very well like normal Les Paul does. I changed it by a Di Marzio Blues Bucker, thats what I like....
I got one of these from China but mines got fret nibs I've changed everything its got Gibson reissue 57 humbuckers, Gibson pot's, vintage capacitors, Schaller turners, Gibson 3 way switch , frets leaved and polished ,relic hardware and like you say the neck and I put an artificial split in headstock like on the real greeny all in all it turned out to be a really nice guitar I still looking for a monty's bethnal green pad humbucker for the right price for the neck Good luck with yours
What seller did you get your LP from that offers fret nibs
It sounds really good. I think that if you get a guitar with the same shape, same wood, and a good set of pickups, you would arrive at the same sound as something that costs thousands. All the fancy paint, and knobs, logos and other crap doesn't really do anything to improve the sound.
I did the same about a month ago. I was surprised on frets and set up. It wasn’t bad. It felt good to play and didn’t sound bad. My top was really flamey but lighter shade with a very light coat of finish. As yours knobs and poker chip were terrible hardware on mine wasn’t reliced and had kluson tulip copies that look like pea soup. I thought the finish sanding could of been better. All in all I’m not disappointed. I’m doing the same as you and hope to have something looks cool plays well and I don’t have to worry about. Can’t wait to see more on yours
Very Cool, Thankyou. Stunning Guitar, Looks and Sounds amazing. I have tried ordering a couple of guitars from China to Australia, but for some reason our Customs has canned the deal. Got money back but still disappointing. I suppose it has something to do with 'Counterfeit' as I have ordered Rickenbacker copies. Would love one of these, but have just ordered from an Australian Company 'Artist Guitars' a LP 'Apricot Burst' which is Identical to the Slash "Apetite Burst" LP so will be my 'Greeny' Guitar too, lol, With Hard Case $400- so a good price for Australian Prices, and Artist Guitars make Quality Guitars with awesome finishes and amazing Playability. They are available now in USA market, apparently and well worth checking out if into quality 'Budget' Guitars. Cheers
I’m in The U.K. and have the Artist LP59, great guitar with amazing tones from their “Bullbucker” pickups which I believe are based on the Seymour Duncan JB Jazz set! Although ok, the bridge and locking tuners could benefit from being upgraded and I plan to when I have the time.
So far I have modified the headstock to look more like the Gibson “open book”, put on a more authentic looking trussrod cover, and added strap locks and a pick guard as I personally think Les! Pauls look naked without one
Is the bridge pup out of phase in middle position as standard on that?
Just normal wiring
Bought a Chinese guitar some years ago. Awesome stuff for under £200. After I changed the strings. One thing I can’t get my head around is relicing. Would you go to a Ferrari dealer and say I will buy your best new motor but I want you to curb it a few times , scuff up the interior trim and sand blast the bonnet ? Yes I’m old !
I understand. Totally! Relics feel great however. 🤷☮️
IM confused were those the stock pickups or your custom ones installed?
These were stock. I have an upgrade video shortly after this one was released.
Can you provide a link to where you got this guitar? It sounds great.
Here ya go!
www.ebay.com/itm/314638799590?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=h2wbkofnrse&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=ddjz77XhRwu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Where did you order it ? Please let us know
Just curious.... Are there fake serial numbers on the back of the head stock?
Thanks, Dan
Not that I recall. My son has the guitar at college currently so I'm not 100% sure at the moment.
Looks great for a chibson man! Is there a chance of telling what is the name of the shop this came from?
I bought a Fender Chinese Squier Precision Bass many tears ago and to be honest the build was second to none. Maybe the pickups needed changing but other than that I was very Impressed. I am not a bass guitarist btw, Les Pauls are my thing. I never liked those fret nibs anyway. When the neck shrinks they can open up and grab the top string on pull offs. My '68 has been re-fretted and it feels better that my other LPs with the fret binding.
I think they make good copies of Greenies, what I do is to flip the magnet180% in Neck pickup, so that in the middle position it has an out phase - a real greenie tone.
And one more important detail, I take out the metal bushings on the bridge, and place the screws that hold the bridge directly in the wood, this has a favorable effect on the transmission of resonance, like with old LPs.
I notice that the wiring is typical Chinese-serial, the capacitors seem to be soldered to the pin of the ton pot and the other end to ground.
It is better when one end of the capacitor goes from one of the pins of the volume pot (vintage/modern), and the other to one of the pins of the tone pot, certainly one of the other two pins of the tone pot is grounded.
Anyway, it looks and sounds good.
Where u buy these I own one and is sounds bad I had to replace everything this would look nice to hang up and play
Where did you buy this chibson?
Shouldn't the pickup screws face each other so that it's like the revered ones in the real one?
Those fakes are starting to look really close to the real thing 😮
Iv'e seen a couple of videos on YT saying they are better quality guitars than the authentic gibsons lol. And they probably are
@@bigbasil1908 Chibsons are getting better each years but it really depends on the manufacturer/seller. The QC is almost inexistant and the materials used isn't that good. Chibsons are way better than Harley benton though. I didn't have an Epiphone to compare too but the quality doesn't beat an american LP in the end.
With a nice setup and mods, a Chibson is probably the best money worth guitar though.
@@WagnerWarner I recently got an epiphone les paul studio and it's so easy to play and sounds and feels really good to play. It's a bit of a plain looking guitar but it's brilliant.
It’s obvious that the top as been flamed with a torch and that’s not true flamed maple.
Its a flame maple veneer,@@pobass007
That thing looks pretty good so far! Sometimes it's about your fingers. Your guitar playing is amazing dude. Doesn't hurt to plug it in to those legendary amps that you have man. Sounded pretty good as far as tone goes. Can't wait to see part 2 with your upgrades and changes. I thought about getting a China flying V, heard so many bad things. People saying that the Floyd Rose that it comes with and locking nut have to be upgraded. For the cheap price a person can get that look, just do the upgrades then? Imagine gigging with that after you upgrade it. People in the audience that haven't seen this video will think that your playing with a $50,000.00 guitar. 😁 killer video man. Also cant wait to see what your buddy Ed has to say! Would be killer to see a video of him playing this! 😁🎸 Thanks Man!
Hi there! just wondering how was the fret level. I have 4 of this chibson and struggle with the fret level. I hope yours are okay?/.good luck to your project. My guitarist friend was impressed, he is not able to determine the real one on a quick look, I told him to smell first. that quickly you can . LOL
It's good! I was shocked. No fret issues at all. I had to loosen the truss rod a tad and lower the bridge dude to some bussing in first fret. But it was just a basic setup tweak.
who did you buy this from? i am looking to get one
do you have a link for the pickups?
This looks pretty good, who did you buy it from?
Awww Marty, I was hoping for your thoughts on how it sounded at the end. Oh well, maybe in part 2....?
Yep part two!