As a followup to the MadLeomon situation, it's fairly well known by now that when a single effect with multiple parts causes multiple other effects to trigger, those effects will then all trigger together once said effect has finished activation, however looking at it that way is actually a bit misleading, in reality it would be more accurate to say that the effects all trigger separately, but they are only considered to trigger together for the purposes of effect resolution order, so using MadLeomon and Deckerdramon as an example, let's say we had another effect that triggered in response to your opponent adding cards to their hand, only this theoretical effect is interuptive, so it triggers when they "would" add cards to their hand, in this case the effect will trigger once when they're about to draw with Deckerdramon the first time, at which point because it's interuptive they active the eff or not imediatly, and afterwards because it's an effect in multiple parts that occur in order, not at the same time, it will trigger again when they're about to draw for the second part of Decker's effect, and activate or not immediately, well MadLeomon works the same way, it's just that because it's not interuptive it has to wait to activate, but it still has 2 separate triggers, and because the game recognizes this and MadLeo's eff is OPT, you can only activate the eff in response to one of those triggers. Of course Bandai still hasn't released any kind of comprehensive rulebook, so this framework has all been extrapolated from a bunch of different rulings that we've gotten from them over time, but they've been fairly consistent in treating effect triggers in this way.
Well the trashing of all the cards is not the correct ruling as I mentioned. I just wanted to bring it up since I know a lot of people still think that it is when it was discussed during the JP release of the set.
I have a question and might just not know the rules well enough. With Digivolution Plug-in S if I have a digimon in breeding can I evolve onto it using the card. Digivolution seemingly allows you to digivolve without specifying in the play area, but I know card effects can't mess with things in the breeding area. The card wouldn't be targeting the digimon, just allowing a digivolution made by oneself right? Thanks for any info
I’ve been specifically waiting for this video because I had that exact question about the Miko Mode, Sunrise Buster into T.K. timing. Thanks for answering that, and for making great content!
So just to make sure, if I play a taiki and reveled a shoutmon, taiki kudo, deathex, and a sunbuster. I assume I can grab the shoutmon and then let the rest go to the bottom, or am I forced to grab the taiki kudo because the placing one card under isn't optional. We had a ruling called today at my local. I was told that since I had targets to properly complete the effect I must grab the taiki and let the shoutmon get put under the tamer.
i have a question what if maid mode is played with the green plug in that lets you evolve using rikas effect to activate when a taomon or his evo lines attack , does miko mode still triggers the when attacking? can i activate the when attacking when it evolves in mid aattack? cause it doesnt say when it declares an attack .
With Taiki, if your reveal was something like, Shoutmon X4, Zenjiro Tsurugi, Fire Ball, DeathXmon, can you choose to add X4 to hand, have no remaining targets for the second half of his effect (because the other part needs to be a digimon), and bottom deck the other 3? Or do you need to add Zenjiro to hand and X4 under Taiki?
Hey, very informative video as always. Quick question, let's say I have an EX2 Sakuyamon on board and I play an Evolution Plug-In S to evolve into Maid Mode. Ex2 Sakuyamon's effect still triggers from playing the option and will resolve after I am done with the Maid Mode effect, right?
In the madleomon vs dekerdramon, if the opponent has 4 digimon and draws 4. Does madleomon discard 4 or since it's draw 1 it's one instance for each opponent's digimon?
That part is still something I need to try and contact support on. It can go either trash 4 or trash 1 based on the wording so I want to make sure first. I'll let you and everyone else know when I hear back!
Would Tactimon be able to proc MadLeomon / Troopmon's abilities while the latter 2 have no sources underneath them if Tactimon had sources itself? I saw comments on a different bagra army video that implied that the digimon has to have a source in order to get the trigger for the effect before it can be redirected to Tactimon.
They do not need sources. Their effects trigger when the conditions is met, they just normally would not be able to activate. But if you have Tacti on field, then you can use it’s effect to trash its sources instead which would allow it to activate, even if Troop/MadLeo does not have any sources.
Can i get a confirmation with BT10 -066 Darkknightmon's effect? It's [All Turn] when this card would be deleted, bounce one card to play one card from it's source. Will the effect activate if Darkknightmon is deleted by DP reduction? I think the BT08 Darkknightmon effecf is also a little different. Thank you!
I'm so glad to see more of these ruling videos, they are so helpful, I have one that I assume I'm ruling correctly but it has been questioned at locals already, but you can totally play BT09 Pomumon with BT10 Ajatarmon or Sunflowmon correct?? You'd just no longer be able to resolve those effects while Pomumon is in play??
Yes, you may play it using there effects but after it is in play, you can no longer play anything via their effects. Interesting point though is you can still suspend them for the cost of you want, even if you cannot play anything because Pomu would stop it.
@@R0boSushi as always, thank you for all you do, and Green Control is gonna be fun this format Shivamon, Tamer hate Argomon level 6, Pomumon, Terriermon, Psychemon (with Kogamon), and a Cutemon, using the Bloomlord engine, oh man it's going to be a fun format
@@R0boSushi also next video you should totally do me a huge favor if you're so kind, you mentioned the BT10 Ciel interactions, I wanna know how GX functions when you play a Ciel when attacking with the old Jesmon with either old Savior or tucking a Magnamon under GX with it's effect, I just wanna know if I can essentially swing twice with GX in this way, I'd truly appreciate it, it's a pretty cool interaction if it works how I think
@@codyschulte9649 Unless the memory stays on your turn you would not be able to attack again while in the middle of the attack. So you would attack, use Ciel to go into GX, GX effect to unsuspend, then you cannot activate blitz because you are already in the middle of an attack that you need to finish first before you can declare another attack.
@@R0boSushi ah I see, that does make sense, I was hoping the when digivolving Blitz would trigger after the first attack but the way you explained it made it understandable, you're so awesome, thank you for the responses
Say I have a Takuya and a Shoutmon on the field. Shoutmon gets deleted, but Save puts him under Takuya. Takuya gets Digivolved into Agunimon. Agunimon suffers a . Is Shoutmon in play, then? Or does it stop at Takuya?
The blue flare metalgreymon says on play this digimon gains rush for the turn. If I digivolve on top of him say with metalgreymon x antibody will it still have rush since it said this digimon gains rush for the turn
quick question about bloomlord if you have 2 digimon in play both unsuspended and 1 is a bloomlord , say he attacks and the security card hit is needlespray or something similar tapping your other digimon does bloomlord now do a second check as there is 2 digimon suspended or are those checks now entirely finished
He will do a second check. The game will check to see how many sec check can be made after each check and since after the first one he meets the requirements to gain the extra check, another check will be made.
Darkknightmon question: The scenario is this BT7 SkullKnight coming out of raising, BT7 SkullKnight already on board, Darkknight and Cavalier in hand. If you digivolve onto the SkullKnight that was previously in play into Cavalier it gains jamming/blocker. You swing with Cavalier for 2 checks. You then swing with SkullKnight from raising and place the Cavalier into the bottom of the stack to go into Darkknightmon. Does the Darkknightmon gain jamming/blocker? The Cavalier with jamming/blocker never left the play area and was placed under an existing digimon that then digivolves. In my opinion the effects transfer to the new stack (unlike in DNA or Xcros where a new digimon is coming into the field via the effect), but I would like some validation on this.
DarkKnightmon will not have blocker and jamming. The only Digimon that had those effects was Cavalier Mode and when it gets added to the sources of another Digimon, it is no longer the Digimon that gained the effect. The effects do not transfer to the new DarkKnightmon.
Blue Flare combo: Digixros Metalgreymon, gains Rush, digivolve into DeckerGreymon. Does DeckerGreymon have Rush? Some people say yes b/c of wording on Metalgreymon, but some no b/c of past rulings on the Rush mechanics.
I have a ruling question. If i have a boutmon p-074 with a wizardmon bt6 underneath and the boutmon uses effect to digivolve into kazuchimon does kazuchimon’s when digivolving effect cause wizardmon to miss his timing Or viceversa?
I would think you do NOT miss timing, cards were trashed from the stack and will proc Wizardmon after resolution of digivolving into Kazuchimon. If anything, Kazuchimon and Wizardmon proc at the same time since they're both "when" effects whose conditions are fulfilled simultaneously after resolution of Boutmon's effect
What if i have alphamon with no lv3 in digivolution sources and i have xantibody in its digivolution sources and they active ultimate flare and they de digivolve in to x antibody?
Hey R0bo love the vids! Ruling question for you. Ok so player A has a Weregarurumon and attacks security and hits a flame hellscythe and brings back on play Angewomon -2 security security till the end of next turn. That would not persist through the end of that turn, player Bs turn and another turn correct? It should be gone on player As second turn cause that effect was hit on his turn right?
The effect will end on after Player A’s current turn. Think of effects like that, Crimson Blaze, Innocence Blizzard, etc, to read “Until your opponent’s next turn end” if that makes sense.
I have a question! Kentaurosmon states : WHEN DIGIVOLVING: up to 5 of your oponerse DIGIMON gain SECURITY ATTACK -2 until the end of your opponent’s next turn… does this mean that if there is not 5 DIGIMON on my opponents battle field then the one in raising will also get the SECURITY ATTACK -2 if it comes out ????? Please help!
@@qmas1983 yes, Venusmon doesn’t target and more or less affect the player. Kenta targets a certain amount and that can’t be applied to the breeding area.
I'd like some clarification with the digisorption thing, it's suposed to be a cost (the suspend a digimon thing), so it won't trigger the "when you suspend a digimon by an effect" inheritables of things like Sunflowmon bt10. Man i wish this game had official rulings haha
Great Video! I have a question about Solarmon and the other Digimon that have the effect of "Can't reduce play cost". Let's say my opponent has 3 Digimon on Field, one of them is a Solarmon. Can I still reduce the cost of the option card Crimson Blaze?
I have a question regarding DarkknightmonX and his interaction with X-Antibody, In Jodobbi's video he said you could attack with Skullknightmon with X-Antibody in it's source to digivolve into Darkknightmon for free by placing Deadlyaxe underneath it's sources THEN using X-Antibody's when attacking to digivolve into DarkknightmonX? Sorry for the paragraph I just didn't want to mince words.
That is correct. Both the When Attacking effects trigger and you can activate them in any order. So you activate SKM first, digivolve into DKM. Then, you can activate X Antibody inherit to digivolve into DKM X.
With the Jesmon video you’re planning on making, can you be sure in specifying when you have to say you’re triggering all of your when attacking effects? Do you have to announce all of them as soon as you attack, or can you choose which ones you activate as you go? I assume you plan on covering it, but I’d also like to know if you play a digimon with Minerva’s opponents turn effect, and the turn player has bt6 BAO, if they can delete the digimon you just called from minerva. Thanks!
For example, if the turn player has to declare bt6 Bao before the Minervamon has called back a lvl 4 or lower, the Minervamon could potentially call back an elecmon and the Jesmon turn player would be forced to destroy the elecmon if it happens to be only digimon with 5000 dp or less?
Woah I heard the other way around for Blazing Memory Boost, that the tamer has to played from the 2 cards chosen out of the six, and not from the 4 cards that weren't chosen. So the correct play is the way you described it as?
The way I described is correct. You add two cards first, then from the remaining 4 you may play a Kiriha if there is one. Then place the remaining on bottom.
As a followup to the MadLeomon situation, it's fairly well known by now that when a single effect with multiple parts causes multiple other effects to trigger, those effects will then all trigger together once said effect has finished activation, however looking at it that way is actually a bit misleading, in reality it would be more accurate to say that the effects all trigger separately, but they are only considered to trigger together for the purposes of effect resolution order, so using MadLeomon and Deckerdramon as an example, let's say we had another effect that triggered in response to your opponent adding cards to their hand, only this theoretical effect is interuptive, so it triggers when they "would" add cards to their hand, in this case the effect will trigger once when they're about to draw with Deckerdramon the first time, at which point because it's interuptive they active the eff or not imediatly, and afterwards because it's an effect in multiple parts that occur in order, not at the same time, it will trigger again when they're about to draw for the second part of Decker's effect, and activate or not immediately, well MadLeomon works the same way, it's just that because it's not interuptive it has to wait to activate, but it still has 2 separate triggers, and because the game recognizes this and MadLeo's eff is OPT, you can only activate the eff in response to one of those triggers.
Of course Bandai still hasn't released any kind of comprehensive rulebook, so this framework has all been extrapolated from a bunch of different rulings that we've gotten from them over time, but they've been fairly consistent in treating effect triggers in this way.
Best Digimon content! Most educational for players. Thank you!
That Omnimon/Kongou situation makes me want to bookmark a lot of rulings for quick reference in games.
Well the trashing of all the cards is not the correct ruling as I mentioned. I just wanted to bring it up since I know a lot of people still think that it is when it was discussed during the JP release of the set.
I have a question and might just not know the rules well enough. With Digivolution Plug-in S if I have a digimon in breeding can I evolve onto it using the card.
Digivolution seemingly allows you to digivolve without specifying in the play area, but I know card effects can't mess with things in the breeding area. The card wouldn't be targeting the digimon, just allowing a digivolution made by oneself right?
Thanks for any info
I’ve been specifically waiting for this video because I had that exact question about the Miko Mode, Sunrise Buster into T.K. timing. Thanks for answering that, and for making great content!
So just to make sure, if I play a taiki and reveled a shoutmon, taiki kudo, deathex, and a sunbuster. I assume I can grab the shoutmon and then let the rest go to the bottom, or am I forced to grab the taiki kudo because the placing one card under isn't optional. We had a ruling called today at my local. I was told that since I had targets to properly complete the effect I must grab the taiki and let the shoutmon get put under the tamer.
i have a question what if maid mode is played with the green plug in that lets you evolve using rikas effect to activate when a taomon or his evo lines attack , does miko mode still triggers the when attacking? can i activate the when attacking when it evolves in mid aattack? cause it doesnt say when it declares an attack .
With Taiki, if your reveal was something like, Shoutmon X4, Zenjiro Tsurugi, Fire Ball, DeathXmon, can you choose to add X4 to hand, have no remaining targets for the second half of his effect (because the other part needs to be a digimon), and bottom deck the other 3? Or do you need to add Zenjiro to hand and X4 under Taiki?
From what it sounds like you add to hand first. So you can add 4 you just won’t have a target for the second part
I have the same question and haven't found an answer yet
Hey, very informative video as always. Quick question, let's say I have an EX2 Sakuyamon on board and I play an Evolution Plug-In S to evolve into Maid Mode. Ex2 Sakuyamon's effect still triggers from playing the option and will resolve after I am done with the Maid Mode effect, right?
So if I reveal 1 blue flare card with blazing mem boost, I can't take any card, since I need to add 2?
You can still take the card. In the DCG, you do as much as you can. So you are still able to take the card if only one is revealed.
@@R0boSushi oh I see, tysm!
In the madleomon vs dekerdramon, if the opponent has 4 digimon and draws 4. Does madleomon discard 4 or since it's draw 1 it's one instance for each opponent's digimon?
That part is still something I need to try and contact support on. It can go either trash 4 or trash 1 based on the wording so I want to make sure first. I'll let you and everyone else know when I hear back!
Great video super helpful!
Would Tactimon be able to proc MadLeomon / Troopmon's abilities while the latter 2 have no sources underneath them if Tactimon had sources itself? I saw comments on a different bagra army video that implied that the digimon has to have a source in order to get the trigger for the effect before it can be redirected to Tactimon.
They do not need sources. Their effects trigger when the conditions is met, they just normally would not be able to activate. But if you have Tacti on field, then you can use it’s effect to trash its sources instead which would allow it to activate, even if Troop/MadLeo does not have any sources.
Can i get a confirmation with BT10 -066 Darkknightmon's effect? It's [All Turn] when this card would be deleted, bounce one card to play one card from it's source. Will the effect activate if Darkknightmon is deleted by DP reduction? I think the BT08 Darkknightmon effecf is also a little different. Thank you!
Yes it will.
I'm so glad to see more of these ruling videos, they are so helpful, I have one that I assume I'm ruling correctly but it has been questioned at locals already, but you can totally play BT09 Pomumon with BT10 Ajatarmon or Sunflowmon correct?? You'd just no longer be able to resolve those effects while Pomumon is in play??
Yes, you may play it using there effects but after it is in play, you can no longer play anything via their effects. Interesting point though is you can still suspend them for the cost of you want, even if you cannot play anything because Pomu would stop it.
@@R0boSushi as always, thank you for all you do, and Green Control is gonna be fun this format Shivamon, Tamer hate Argomon level 6, Pomumon, Terriermon, Psychemon (with Kogamon), and a Cutemon, using the Bloomlord engine, oh man it's going to be a fun format
@@R0boSushi also next video you should totally do me a huge favor if you're so kind, you mentioned the BT10 Ciel interactions, I wanna know how GX functions when you play a Ciel when attacking with the old Jesmon with either old Savior or tucking a Magnamon under GX with it's effect, I just wanna know if I can essentially swing twice with GX in this way, I'd truly appreciate it, it's a pretty cool interaction if it works how I think
@@codyschulte9649 Unless the memory stays on your turn you would not be able to attack again while in the middle of the attack. So you would attack, use Ciel to go into GX, GX effect to unsuspend, then you cannot activate blitz because you are already in the middle of an attack that you need to finish first before you can declare another attack.
@@R0boSushi ah I see, that does make sense, I was hoping the when digivolving Blitz would trigger after the first attack but the way you explained it made it understandable, you're so awesome, thank you for the responses
Say I have a Takuya and a Shoutmon on the field. Shoutmon gets deleted, but Save puts him under Takuya.
Takuya gets Digivolved into Agunimon.
Agunimon suffers a .
Is Shoutmon in play, then? Or does it stop at Takuya?
The blue flare metalgreymon says on play this digimon gains rush for the turn. If I digivolve on top of him say with metalgreymon x antibody will it still have rush since it said this digimon gains rush for the turn
Yes
@@R0boSushi TYVM
quick question about bloomlord if you have 2 digimon in play both unsuspended and 1 is a bloomlord , say he attacks and the security card hit is needlespray or something similar tapping your other digimon does bloomlord now do a second check as there is 2 digimon suspended or are those checks now entirely finished
He will do a second check. The game will check to see how many sec check can be made after each check and since after the first one he meets the requirements to gain the extra check, another check will be made.
Darkknightmon question:
The scenario is this
BT7 SkullKnight coming out of raising, BT7 SkullKnight already on board, Darkknight and Cavalier in hand.
If you digivolve onto the SkullKnight that was previously in play into Cavalier it gains jamming/blocker. You swing with Cavalier for 2 checks.
You then swing with SkullKnight from raising and place the Cavalier into the bottom of the stack to go into Darkknightmon.
Does the Darkknightmon gain jamming/blocker?
The Cavalier with jamming/blocker never left the play area and was placed under an existing digimon that then digivolves. In my opinion the effects transfer to the new stack (unlike in DNA or Xcros where a new digimon is coming into the field via the effect), but I would like some validation on this.
DarkKnightmon will not have blocker and jamming. The only Digimon that had those effects was Cavalier Mode and when it gets added to the sources of another Digimon, it is no longer the Digimon that gained the effect. The effects do not transfer to the new DarkKnightmon.
Blue Flare combo: Digixros Metalgreymon, gains Rush, digivolve into DeckerGreymon. Does DeckerGreymon have Rush? Some people say yes b/c of wording on Metalgreymon, but some no b/c of past rulings on the Rush mechanics.
I have a ruling question. If i have a boutmon p-074 with a wizardmon bt6 underneath and the boutmon uses effect to digivolve into kazuchimon does kazuchimon’s when digivolving effect cause wizardmon to miss his timing Or viceversa?
I would think you do NOT miss timing, cards were trashed from the stack and will proc Wizardmon after resolution of digivolving into Kazuchimon. If anything, Kazuchimon and Wizardmon proc at the same time since they're both "when" effects whose conditions are fulfilled simultaneously after resolution of Boutmon's effect
What if i have alphamon with no lv3 in digivolution sources and i have xantibody in its digivolution sources and they active ultimate flare and they de digivolve in to x antibody?
Similar to if it were a Lvl 2 Digimon, Rules Processing will send the option card to the trash since it is unable to stay in the battle area
Hey R0bo love the vids! Ruling question for you. Ok so player A has a Weregarurumon and attacks security and hits a flame hellscythe and brings back on play Angewomon -2 security security till the end of next turn. That would not persist through the end of that turn, player Bs turn and another turn correct? It should be gone on player As second turn cause that effect was hit on his turn right?
The effect will end on after Player A’s current turn. Think of effects like that, Crimson Blaze, Innocence Blizzard, etc, to read “Until your opponent’s next turn end” if that makes sense.
I have a question! Kentaurosmon states : WHEN DIGIVOLVING: up to 5 of your oponerse DIGIMON gain SECURITY ATTACK -2 until the end of your opponent’s next turn… does this mean that if there is not 5 DIGIMON on my opponents battle field then the one in raising will also get the SECURITY ATTACK -2 if it comes out ????? Please help!
No, effects like that do not apply to anything in the breeding area.
@@R0boSushi how come Venusmon actually works that way then?
The difference is the globally effect? Compared to the “up to 5”?
@@qmas1983 yes, Venusmon doesn’t target and more or less affect the player. Kenta targets a certain amount and that can’t be applied to the breeding area.
I'd like some clarification with the digisorption thing, it's suposed to be a cost (the suspend a digimon thing), so it won't trigger the "when you suspend a digimon by an effect" inheritables of things like Sunflowmon bt10. Man i wish this game had official rulings haha
I would love the answer to this too!
Great Video! I have a question about Solarmon and the other Digimon that have the effect of "Can't reduce play cost". Let's say my opponent has 3 Digimon on Field, one of them is a Solarmon. Can I still reduce the cost of the option card Crimson Blaze?
Yes, because you 'use' an option card and don't play it. Due to this the cost can be reduced.
If u look on options they don't have a play cost they just have a cost while digimon have a play cost
I have a question regarding DarkknightmonX and his interaction with X-Antibody, In Jodobbi's video he said you could attack with Skullknightmon with X-Antibody in it's source to digivolve into Darkknightmon for free by placing Deadlyaxe underneath it's sources THEN using X-Antibody's when attacking to digivolve into DarkknightmonX? Sorry for the paragraph I just didn't want to mince words.
That is correct. Both the When Attacking effects trigger and you can activate them in any order. So you activate SKM first, digivolve into DKM. Then, you can activate X Antibody inherit to digivolve into DKM X.
Thank you
I wonder how many of these will refer to miss translation on cards.
With the Jesmon video you’re planning on making, can you be sure in specifying when you have to say you’re triggering all of your when attacking effects? Do you have to announce all of them as soon as you attack, or can you choose which ones you activate as you go?
I assume you plan on covering it, but I’d also like to know if you play a digimon with Minerva’s opponents turn effect, and the turn player has bt6 BAO, if they can delete the digimon you just called from minerva.
Thanks!
For example, if the turn player has to declare bt6 Bao before the Minervamon has called back a lvl 4 or lower, the Minervamon could potentially call back an elecmon and the Jesmon turn player would be forced to destroy the elecmon if it happens to be only digimon with 5000 dp or less?
Woah I heard the other way around for Blazing Memory Boost, that the tamer has to played from the 2 cards chosen out of the six, and not from the 4 cards that weren't chosen. So the correct play is the way you described it as?
The way I described is correct. You add two cards first, then from the remaining 4 you may play a Kiriha if there is one. Then place the remaining on bottom.
@@R0boSushi Got it. Thanks!
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Sunrise set taí kari, oponent lose 3000 dp our 6000dp