While the Private Pilot Glider rating only requires 10 hours flight time by the FAA, Right Rudder Aviation will take the time you need to become safe and proficient. If you think 10 hours is crazy, wait until you hear about FAR Part 103!
In 1963, at age 17, I took flying lessons at the Blairstown, N.J. airport ! In those days, a minimum of eight hours of instruction was needed to acquire a 'solo' pilot's license, ( where you could fly w/o an instructor, but not with a passenger.) The total cost for the eight or more hours of instruction was $100. After you 'soloed' you could rent a plane (Piper Cub or Aeronca Champion) for $8.00 an hour! What a difference!
Yowsy, I learned at Birchwood Pocono and Settled in a Stroudsburg Airpark across the mountain after they closed up... Yep, in 72 it was only $ 15.00 Solo..
My instructor always said - your certification is a license to learn. This is the beginning of the learning experience, not the end. Hope you’re passing that along to your students
Well this is a certificate not a license so definitely need more flight time but if you pass the ppl and ground school CFI signs offf then at least it gets you going at least locally worse case scenario. I think it’s a great idea.
Here's the thing about earning a pilot's license. People used to ask me, "How long does it take?" And I would ask, "Why does it matter? From the very first day, you're FLYING." That's a big deal. It doesn't matter that it takes 40 hours (legally) or longer if you need it. What matters is from the very first day, you're flying. And sometime after about 8-15 hours, you're able to fly solo. Your license gives you the chance to take passengers and fly at night without an instructor. Those are cool. But long before you have your license, you're having fun.
I have a friend who owns a light sport aircraft…. But he won’t fly cross country in it. “It takes too long, my cruise is only 100 knots”. And I think to myself, “So? Slower just more time having fun in the air!”
@@ssn608 He should be thankful that he has something to fly in. At 60+ (my age) I wish I could get back up there. My priorities and finances have changed over the years. Enjoy what you've got - that's the answer. Time will take care of itself.
That's what I realized when I started. I was so worried about doing my solos and taking friends flying, but my instruction hours are just as fun as all that.
Also just because you require a minimum of 10 hours doesn't mean you will get a PPG license in 10 hours.Could be twice that. Or more even. Someone with an ultralight license might be able to do it in 10 hours because they know how to fly already
There's a big difference between attaining a license to fly (which is really a license to learn) and becoming an experienced, skilled, and safe pilot. I almost can't believe, or appreciate, someone being given the responsibility of a flight instructor so quickly.
Good Video - love Florida weather. I flew for over 20 years in Alaska and I bought my 170 in the mid 80s before learning to fly - I never was interested in learning to solo in 10 or 15 or even 20 hours - I was only interested in soloing when I felt ready. And I think this is the best way to look at it. Don't push it - you will know when you are ready.
I've been instructing [in airplanes] for 46 years and never knew about this path to a pilot certificate or this learn-to-fly option. Very interesting! And looks like a lot of fun.
And then, with a PPL - Glider... one goes on to do a PPL-airplane as an ADD-ON.... you will need 40 hours of time in aircraft, including 20 hours dual instruction in an AIRPLANE, and 10 hours solo in an AIRPLANE. The 10 hours getting your glider ppl can count for the remaining 10. Of course most people don't get a ppl airplane at 70 hours.... most more nearly double that. But if you have been tooling around in a motor glider just... flying places... flying cross country, doing patterns, etc. those topics will be easy when being instructed in airplane, and less hours in an airplane may be required. And of course, that dread engine out landing in an airplane will be old hat., as seen in this video. I was flying the other day, and somebody was practicing an engine out in the pattern, and sounded kind of stressed about it. I was practicing an engine out starting 5000 feet and 10 miles from the airfield l in my motorglider, and had to bleed off a lot of altitude (about 2000 feet) to get to the pattern altitude as I was on the 45 to the downwind.
There is no shortcut for a PPL aircraft license. You still have to do the solo hours in a type, and do the cross-country, etc. And the written. This glider thing is bullshit.
@@foobarmaximus3506 lol! People have been getting their glider rating this wat for as long as private pilots been getting theirs. The FAA allows this, so where is the BS?
Flying a single engine basic trainer is pretty easy. Flying the rules, regulations, radio etiquette etc is way more complex. Weather adds to the mix. Well worth it though.
@@rabbitholereviews Yes and no. Flying a 172 into bad weather (learning to not)...flying into uncontrolled airspace with 5 our aircraft all trying to land...there is SOOOO much more to flying.
True. I've flown my buddy's Cessna 152 many times, with him beside me of course, including takeoffs and landings. Never had a flying lesson. Just like driving a car, but there's no way I could remember all the regulations, radio chatter with the Alpha, Victor, Charlie, blah, blah, blah and all that other crap.
@@danieltaylor4819 "all the regulations, radio chatter with the Alpha, Victor, Charlie, blah, blah, blah and all that other crap."...that's flying. And taking off a C152 is easy. Knowing what to do when there is a problem is not.
My father was a military flight instructor in WW2. After he bought and sold aircraft. He flew everywhere. My two brothers and one sister have been pilots since the age of 16. I am the only that is not a pilot, but served and retired from the military. Now, at age 78, I wish that I had not turned down the Army's flight school for Special Forces. Inspiring video🏆
Don’t blame the school for this. They are following the FAA rules. If you don’t like it, complain to the FAA. The same principle applies to rich people who pay no taxes (legally). They are just taking advantage of the IRS rules. If you don’t like rich people paying little to no taxes, complain to the IRS. This is the same thing so don’t blame the school for putting together this kind of program.
You do know that the rich pay almost all of the taxes in the US right? 1% of the population pays 40% of all income taxes. The top 10% pays 70% of all taxes. Maybe check the numbers before you say dumb things.
Right, it's only gonna kill a few people right? Millennials have no problem with this. So GTM, there is absolutely a problem. Your just trying to sidestep liability and responsibility. Just like a child.
I had no clue about this as an option. I looked at gliding but had no clue about the motorized glider option and the benefits you showed us in this video. Thank you so much!
I think I soloed in less than 15 hours. I bought a 7ECA Champ for 9 grand in 1984 and learned to fly it with a CFI friend teaching me. The radios and using other cockpit instruments were very familiar to me as I was an avionics tech on Navy Patrol aircraft not to many years before.
I've been to Alaska three times & met the then oldest "bush pilot" still flying, Don Derring, age 77 in 1999! I understand that there are more private pilots per capita in Alaska than any other state! I took 6 lessons on a two-seat "Champion" in 1963 at age 17, but never soloed! The plane was destroyed after a 16 year old student soloed but crashed a few flying hours later on an unsanctioned & uneven landing area! Best of luck!
I moved to Inverness in March 69. I left 😢after HS to pursue my life in 71. I got my PPL in Brooksville because there was nothing at the Inverness airport. My God you made it absolutely outstanding! I am retiring in July and I will be taking my Cygnet Amphibian down in the winter to visit and reminisce. I will meet you soon Andy
This is a great idea as a compliment to a PPL or light sport. Gliders require skills not typical of regular planes. The Gimli Glider incident showed how glider piloting skills can be helpful.
Good on the FBO and flight school for introducing a (relatively) inexpensive way to fly. That said, an "instructor" or even a "demo pilot" with 30 hours is as competent to teach flying as I am to perform surgery after watching a season of Grey's Anatomy. When everything lines up and the airport is in sight, he or she is probably OK. When anything out of the ordinary happens mechanically, with the weather, with the pilot, you have zero backup in the way of experience to put the beans back in the bag. Just saying.
After 4200 majority IP/FE hours in the Tomahawk, 172, T-37, T-38, F-16, and 100 combat missions, many as Mission Commander and FAC-A, plus tens of thousands of RC hours over 45 years, which definitely helps, I still feel like I could use another 10K hours to gain much needed experience.
You are correct, sir! These people think there is a shortcut. It's their life and death - let them think what they want. Most of these will Crash and Burn.
@@dougearnest7590 Yeah, there are "C" doctors, too. not sure how the ones that come into a country are rated. But we'll soon find out with the shortage of people due to mandates and deaths.
@@foobarmaximus3506 "Most.... will crash and burn"? Where's the data on that? I suspect most will have a hell of a lot of fun living their dream and will be perfectly safe while doing so. 70% will go on to earn private pilot certificates. A very few will crash and burn. Life is full of risks, and sooner or later, something kills every single one of us. I'd rather die swiftly crashing and burning than slowly while lying under flourescent lights in a pool of my own excrement in a nursing home the way most people do. Jesus Christ 😅
Minimum hours are just that. I started my PPL in a 172 and had to switch to SPL with about 13 hours logged. Light Sport is 20 hours and my time counts, however, I'll still need about 20 in the P92 before I get my license. Most people over 40 earn it by about +/- ten hours of their age. While the P92 is similar, I have to learn a new cockpit and procedures. The basics are the same, but different. Either way, aviation is a blast.
Wow... Real Land of The Free! And here I am, dreaming about flights, here in Siberia, Russia, working for $300 a month. USA is a real Dream Land! Thanks for your Video!
Right? I had about 3 hrs of instructor led flying 25 years ago. He said I had a good grasp of the basics but he didn't think it made sense to do more until I passed ground school. Working in two back to back start-up companies left little time and no money for study or instruction and getting a cert was put on the back shelf. It would be interesting to see how this program works. 🤔 Edit: I forgot to mention, the hardest part of my 3 hrs instruction was talking to the tower.
Thanks for the ride mr. I've always said ... I'd rather go 60 in the air than 160 on the ground. Staying in the circuit doing 'touch and goes' is more fun than any amusement park
Right Rudder advertises the complete private glider training package at $2499. Not sure why this video says $3000. That is super expensive. After removing the cost of the headset, books and incidentals that's around $270 per hour. Private Pilot instruction, including wet plane rental, is at least $100 per hour less. Glider instruction is generally much less than that.
@@wiley0714 Hmm. You think that was sarcastic? Haha. Ok then. If you would like sarcastic I can do that. I am fearful You may start crying though. But I guess that is the chance you take trolling in on random conversations ah?And why would one learn NOT to be sarcastic? Is it so that I don't offend someone that I called out for being rude? Oh no. Or offend someone that is trolling the internet trying to start an argument for no particular reason other than maybe lack of female (or male)companionship has made him angry? Not sure why I am explaining this other than the fact the first 3 men with my name taught me to not only stand up for myself, but also to stand up for others given the chance, especially if they haven't stood up for themselves, and also let others know so. Your welcome. This CFI is clearly upset because his competition is using powered gliders to train people and he is not. For him to say "I hope they are teaching good glider skills" Is extremely rude, and clearly shows he didn't even watch the vid. before his negative post , as he would have seen if he did they ARE teaching glider skills. How would you like some stranger coming along and saying about you, oh I hope he is doing a good job! At the job you get paid to do, while they have no idea if you are or not. Kind of like someone popping in on a conversation and saying something rude and stupid while insinuating that person being spoken to is somehow different, even unintelligent, and or rude because his ancestors of 3 generations have the same name? Or wait, should be smarter and less rude.. Um err. Well. Anyway.That would just be silly right? Do you think I should teach #5 what I guess I was never taught? To not offend easily offended snowflakes with his sarcasm? Naa. Maybe number 6 won't be such an as$ hole ah? We will see.You keep guarding the internet though, and watching for sarcasm because you really are making it a better place.I can tell people are way more polite because of you. You should be proud of yourself.Thank you so much for your concern, really. Peace.
One of the best lessons I've learned over my time of being an engineer is, "meets regulation" is oftentimes not synonymous with "safe". Meets regulation is the requirement to stay in business. Having strong safety requirements beyond that is how you keep people safe and achieve excellence in what you do. That combined with "just because you can doesn't mean you should" makes me really nervous about this.... loophole for "gliders".
The real reason it takes 65 hours for so many is b/c most of your flying hours you are sitting in the airplane on the ground wasting your Time and money listening to the CFI or waiting to take off...One hour of flight time is really about 25-35 mins flying the plane...and the slower they are in taking off the more money for the flight school or the CFI that you hired...so, find a small airport and do your training there and or Buy a plane and train in it and you will save $10,000 dollars and then resale the plane and get a better one...or lease or rent it out and do it all for free or very cheaply!
This is wonderful because from what I heard, about half of those who start flying lessons never finish. This will get more people flying, then they will eventually get their private pilot's license.
I have yet to fly a Pipistrel but everything I have heard is they are extremely easy to fly, loads of fun, and relatively cheap (flying has gotten so cost prohibitive for most).
I've flown all kinds of fixed wings, but the 10 hour claim to reasonable competence is, well questionable IMHO from what I've seen. BUT, learning to fly in a 'glider' and what you learn taking this route is priceless, not just myself but seeing other pilots becoming MUCH more competent in pushing powered tin around the sky.
I would assume your CFI would have final say if you are ready. He just stated minimum number of hours. Some people are smart enough and have the aptitude to pick it up that fast. Some do not. Why force the people who CAN do things safely to go the long route because some cannot. There are some folks out there who will never be able to learn to fly no matter how much time you give them...
@@TedSchoenling Simply, being competent in putting an unpowered aircraft into a small field is invaluable. Flying gliders (and for me before that hang gliders) does this better than any SEL training. Your entire mindset changes flying sailplanes (gliders), constantly evaluating landing options while flying. How many engine-out off field forced landings does SEL training administer? Zero. Probably same for the CFI. Yet that situation is what kills power pilots because it's completely unfamiliar. Glider pilots laugh when the SEL CFI pulls power asking what they're going to do. I did, and so do others I know. We've already evaluated 2 or 3 potentials and not only picked the best one but planned our approach, in a few seconds. And this mindset never goes away, flying anything.
I know everyone thinks about the cost, but more should think about if u feel u have learned enough and the important things about flying. A lot to learn take it slow and easy and once ur comfortable keep expanding. This is one part abt aviation. U never stop learning.
Soooo fun! I wish this was available when I was young. My friend had a Cesna 182. We went everywhere (California) I loved flying but never wanted the engine to turn off. 🙂 How fun!
This is a fun video, GREAT camera work and good video of just talking while flying. There I was, 1967, 18 and starting AARRMMYY TTRRAAINING at Ft Wolters primary helicopters. 1968 final exam in VietNam. Ya'll enjoy this new stuff - I sure enjoyed the ride .
Man! Cut the engine at 1500 feet (?) and glide home to land. Amazing. Gives a factor of security if engine does fail. (?) I doubt NZ flying PPL is obtainable through this ‘shortcut’.
@@dougearnest7590 I had started training back in 07 and stopped in 08 when the market crashed, so I did have past experience. Took me 2.5 months, flying only some weekends, but only 7 days of flying. I did it in the minimum time required and only paid the flat fee.
@@FlyinMike84 -- Thanks for the prompt response - and congratulations on getting it done. I emailed that outfit with a few basic questions and never got a response. I was thinking that they either didn't want my money, or I asked questions they didn't want to answer.
@@dougearnest7590 They just became the new US Pipistrel distributor and had been extremely busy. I believe they are working on more staff to make that better. If you can call, that may be the best right now. If I can help with anything else, let me know.
@@FlyinMike84 - Okay, thank you for that info. I have a couple of exams coming up in the next two weeks for which I need to study. After that I'm going to be giving some serious consideration to getting my (glider) license - The questions I had were sort of a pesky list of things I was curious about, not something I expect a busy person to know offhand and answer over the phone -- hence, the email. I might be in touch at some point after exams. Thanks again!
Minimum hours are just that, minimum. To become proficient, to become safe or safer requires a lot more hours. Been flying for 43 years, have over 5,000 hours now. I probably was getting right at about 1,000 hrs…that’s a few more than 10hrs. I do support the idea/concept of getting more people interested in flying, love that part. Again, not hating, just my humble opinion. Keep making these vid’s and putting them out there.
I learned to fly and became licensed. I never had an overwhelming urge to fly. I just wanted to see if I could do it. It always seemed like intense work every time I went aloft. I was flying in the mid Atlantic region. To say it was complicated is an understatement. After several years I relinquished my certification.
I love that there are people who can only dream of flying, but sadly don't have the financial backing to do so. Thanks for sharing your story about how you wasted money, just to see if you could do something, rather than cultivating it and passing that knowledge along, only to let your cert expire. Tell me your parents had money or your're a trust fund baby, without really telling me. Ultra douchey comment of the year right here.
Only reason I'm watching aviation videos is for the same reason OP stated. I'm interested enough to try it, but probably won't persue it past cert. Just want to see if I can do it. Then I want to become a railroad engineer.
I dont find it complicated at all if you just avoid controlled airspace . Yes you never stop learning when you're a pilot or a musician or an athlete or a scientist....or a...you get the idea
I soloed at 10 hours, 17 years old on a flying brick Piper Colt. On a busy class D airport. 3 touch and goes with short approaches too. And forward slips too. I never have handled a motor machine in my life. My english was poor due im latino and have never spoke a word of english except hamburgers and hot dogs and ... Coca Cola.. But hey, Coca Cola is Spanish name.. lol. It is good that non rich, hard working people can fly at 10 hours too. Piper Colt dont glide, they drop like hell when power off. Short wing Pipers are not built since 1960's. Too dangerous with power off.
I hit "like" because I like you guys getting people into flying. That's awesome. 10 hrs? /Shrug If you guys were in my neighborhood I'd give you a shot. It scares me that a 10hr pilot says "I'm going to do this engine-off stuff like I learned from the other low-time pilot who learned from that other low-time pilot." Ehud Tucson, Arizona FAA Commercial Helicopter Pilot -- but I'm not casting any shade your way. I'd fly with you, but I'd be clenching all my cheeks.
If this path is a gateway to flying that’s one thing. Letting newbie pilots loose after just 10 hours in powered aircraft is totally another. Hope the school is setting proper due expectations with incoming students
This is vary interesting. Got a couple of questions- (1) what is the glide ratio, (2) can this glider catch thermals like regular gliders, hang gliders?
The glide ratio of the Alpha Trainer is 15:1. With this it is theoretically possible to ascend using strong thermals, but you can't expect it to act like a true glider (without an engine).
Things have really changed since I earned my private pilots certificate. When he said $3000 I just about fell out of my chair because my total cost was $695 to my full private pilots license. I was fortunate and had a great instructor and I soloed at 7.5 hours. He really tricked me when he got out of the plane and said said, just after landing, go ahead and fly the pattern. Learning to fly and flying is a great experience. Today you can get the same view that pilots and their passengers get by watching videos that are shot by drones. But there is still nothing quite like being in the left seat and being the pilot in command or the PIC.
No question that gliding is a great way to get started especially for teenagers. However claims like “learn to fly in 10 hours” do aviation a huge disservice because the claim is not true. Sure you can learn to manipulate the aircraft well enough to takeoff, land, basic flight maneuvers in 10 hours but you haven’t learned to fly- you’ve learned to manipulate the aircraft. I’m a retired flight school owner and our best and at the same time worst students were the 10 hour wonders. We had a guy who solo’d at 4 hours that I doubt will ever know how to fly- safely. It’s one of the big problems in the airline industry. Pilots are flying the automation but when that breaks (think 737 Max or Air France Flight 447) they are flying perfectly good aircraft into the ground/ocean killing hundreds at a time because they can’t fly the plane unless all automated systems working perfectly.
Well, here’s the thing: you’ve laid out your concerns about student pilots or recent PPL’s only having a surface level knowledge of how to fly a plane. ie just the basics of manipulating a plane. And if true, no reasonable person would disagree such pilots are dangerous. But glider piloting is as close to pure flight as you can get. Without an engine, one really gets a feel for the characteristics of air and how the plane is truly navigating through it, and therefore I think your comment is misplaced. As to the claim that through this program one could “learn to fly in 10 hours”- that just a marketing gimmick. And I think all involved know that. Also, I’m sure this school informs their students that they’ll need many more hours before they become proficient, if there is such a thing.
Well why’d you let the guy solo at 4 hours if you didn’t think he’d be a safe pilot? That sounds like there’s something wrong with the instructors/school if you’re allowing people like that to just go on through instead of teaching them how to be a safe pilot. Sounds like you were just in it for the money instead of training safe competent pilots. I’m not saying you were doing that just saying that’s what you make it sound like.
Really it's down to developing long term memory, reaction time, and muscle memory, which is why it takes longer. You don't want to be up there with just a few hours when something goes wrong or in a complex situation. Definitely not enough for employment, but good enough for joy rides under controlled conditions and good weather.
Over a decade of flight sim, I took my first discovery flight a year ago. CFI was pretty impressed with my knowledge, and how I handled myself. CFI encouraged me to continue. Sadly I'm too poor to obtain a PPL. Never knew this was an option outside of a sports license. That motorized glider is amazing. Ummmm Florida here we come!!!!
I got my private pilot license in 1996. I soloed at 51 hours, meaning I had 51 hours of paid instructor lessons. After I soloed, I had to complete a “cross country” flight. I think I had to fly a total of 500 miles?? Maybe.. but I also had to land at two airports not on my usual route. I had 40 hours of ground school, passed a written test and then passed a check ride with a FAA employee that was his job to check pilots flying abilities for the certificate they were going for. I understand that was 27 years ago, but my total cost was $4500. Based on inflation I would be looking at $9000.00 in today’s dollars. Even today you are looking at under $200 per hour to get a private license.
What’s the good news of a 14yo with very limited hours, flying cross country through all weather, Flight conditions, and traffic areas? Lucky to be alive, and to not have killed anyone else.
I still find it hard to believe.. unless they did without a license or meant flew balloons.. if I understand you need to be minimum 17 to obtain a license.. People think it’s a bragging right someone that young did such thing.. it’s pretty dangerous and unnecessary, if it actually happened
Does your Private Pilot Glider Rating require that you make all your landing unpowered? Can you fly into fields with a tower? Is their a max speed (120 mph) as in Light Sport Aircraft?
Yes you can fly into a towered airport as a Private Pilot Glider, a powered glider need not necessarily land power off, there is no speed limit. A powered glider glider can have retractable gear and an inflight adjustable propeller.
You have all the privileges of a private pilot except limited to powered gliders like the pipistrel. You may fly to 18000ft, out of the country and at night.
The cost prohibitive is probably a good thing. I’ve seen military pilots who had no business flying. Piloting is not driving in the air. Just like a brand new sixteen year old driver shouldn’t get a Dodge Demon as his first car, not everyone should be able to get a pilot certificate.
Not that you would ever mean to discourage a young person who held a passion to learn to fly right! After all, tomorrow's Chief Pilot could be reading your comment today and think to themselves, nah, I guess he's taking about me! Just a thought!
@@travelingman8230 if they are that easily discouraged, then the first time ATC chews them out, then they would be done. I see this as a money making venture for instructors padding a resume, nothing else.
@@travelingman8230 one other thing, you have an opportunity to teach young people discouragement is an obstacle you will always face in life and it’s better to push it aside and work through or around the obstacles that cause it, but you think it’s better to show them someone else should remove it for them? They’re better off not having someone like you in their life.
JD every bit of what you just said is wrong and I dare say few ppl would agree with your mentality on this subject. There is going to be a pilot shortage in the coming years, we need to encourage not discourage new pilots. This type rating and the way to achieve it, may seem beneath your flight chop snobbery, but for most it is merely opening a door to bigger and more advanced training. The training departments of the majors are looking for pilots from diverse backgrounds, not just jet jockeys or daddies money bought them 400hrs. Why are you so jaded, you sound like a child who doesn't want others to share his accomplishments because they earned them in a different manner! Do me a favor, stay away from young influential minds, you sound like an old crab!
In my country you need to absolve 45 hours of flying by any airplane license training..! Well,Ultralight plane license is cheaper,but it´s all the difference...
awesomeness!!! I flew about 2,000 hours and this is mind blowing. and thank you for not playing some schlock crappy hip ass doofus "cool" rap metal musak in the background. very chill video. top class production
Hi Andy. I have just seen your RUclips video on getting your private gliding license using your Pipistrel Alpha Glider. My name is Mr Robinson and I live in London England UK. Do you offer a package where overseas candidates could take your private gliding license but also have some form of accommodation in or around the airport? It would be a very long way for me to travel, but I would also need somewhere to stay. I am dyslexic so passing the written exams would be of some concern to me. I am willing to do what it takes, if you’re willing to assist me to pass all the exams.I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible. Much regards Mr Robinson.
Ok, that was very very cool.... I was taught be purpousely High every time in the old 140. Eng quits got plenty of room, then slip it in if needed. Every landing we did was power off.
I don't understand how one can fly a motor aeroplane with a glider licence... it seems those things are rather strange in the US. Here in Europe you can only fly gliders with a glider licence - you can't certify a plane with an engine as a glider. For motorgliders you still need a motorglider licence. And another thing: 10 hours is only the minimum required time. I can't imagine anyone learing to safely fly a plane in just 10 hours of flight.
It's very different. You're not gonna just figure out how to land. It takes at least a little brains to fly a plane, but pretty much anyone that can ride a bicycle can ride a motorcycle.
What a great concept, never heard of it before, I doubt it would be allowed under NZ regulations. I only flew gliders, soloed after 5 hours, but that was an awful lot of take offs and landings on auto tow, as well as airplane launches. Would have loved to fly this way. An excellent video, thanks.
@@keithmorrison6176 Yest indeed. Many years ago the Americans were bringing their stuff over here. Giving people an hour's training and then saleing them the aircraft. We heard of people trying to land and take of down wind and all sort. No training to look out for wires crossing fields no flying around an area before trying to land. Yes indeed the flying is the easy bit. It's all the knowledge that you only get good at with time.
🤷♂️ license isn't the issue, it's the cost of buying, equipping, maintaining, and storing a plane that doesn't make a whole lot of sense for 95% of the world. Then there's the reason to even need to fly your own aircraft outside of the seldom occasions you'll take it out for recreation.
The implication that getting a glider rating allows you to transition to a PPL as though it were an 'add on' is ludicrous. The FAA requires a MINIMUM of 35 hours Part 141 or 40 hours Part 61 to obtain a PPL and it takes an average pilot about 65 hours to become proficient and safe. Proficient and safe. Proficient and safe. Aviation is not for those looking to cut corners or hang their hopes on FAA minimums. When it all goes wrong at low altitude and you find yourself in a life or death scenario with 10 hours logged - looking to Section 61 of your FAR/AIM won't be much help.
Flying is pretty easy.. and easy to understand. The real problem is most people are idiots and can't even safely drive a car. Also with this license you still have to have FAA approved check ride and can only fly in planes that have a glider certificate... Most of which are near impossible to crash unless you purposely do a nose dive into the ground. This is actually a great program. It introduces people to flying at much more affordable and less stressful environment. It also, from the get go, teaches gliding, which Is probably one of the most important aspect of flying. Most people that have engine outs low to the ground forget how to glide because besides doing it once or twice in training.. they haven't really done it. I would say this actually a way safer form of learning. This is basically a glorified powered hang glider.. but with training.
If you subtract night, instrument, cross country, control tower, etc from ASEL’s 40 hours then 10 is about all you’re left with… So, if you want to add on ASEL to an existing Private Pilot Certificate w/ glider rating you need to do the parts of 61.109 that say “in a single engine airplane.” But it’s done under the provisions of additional category/class not Student Pilot. The training in the video is also 61.109…
Worth every penny (or cent) - What a great experience. Being Florida I don't suppose you have too many bad weather days restricting Lesson flights, much easier to concentrate learning into a short period without forgetting what you just learnt.
Had my first ever flight in one of those not too long ago. Been dying to get back up in the air! Never flown a plane before that but I have to say I think getting a license is totally worth it.
"As a motorglider, you get all the perks of a light sport airplane in half of the flight training time. (Refer to FAR 61:109 and 61:129)" - 10 hours in not half of the flight training time - what is the trick ?)
That's such an exciting and ambitious goal! Learning to fly is a remarkable skill, and the fact that it can be achieved in just 10 hours shows how accessible and achievable dreams can be with the right guidance and determination. The sky's the limit, and this kind of endeavor truly inspires others to reach for their own goals, no matter how high they might seem! 🛫✨
While the Private Pilot Glider rating only requires 10 hours flight time by the FAA, Right Rudder Aviation will take the time you need to become safe and proficient.
If you think 10 hours is crazy, wait until you hear about FAR Part 103!
I love the idea of these would be worth looking into
You doing a ppg video? You should do one and what it takes to train for ppg, maybe at a place like Aviator PPG in Lake Wales.
How much do gliders cost? and this one in particular.
Do you know if I could use that glider to get my private pilot license? Since it seems to have similar features to a light sport aircraft
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In 1963, at age 17, I took flying lessons at the Blairstown, N.J. airport ! In those days, a minimum of eight
hours of instruction was needed to acquire a 'solo' pilot's license, ( where you could fly w/o an instructor,
but not with a passenger.) The total cost for the eight or more hours of instruction was $100. After you
'soloed' you could rent a plane (Piper Cub or Aeronca Champion) for $8.00 an hour! What a difference!
Yowsy, I learned at Birchwood Pocono and Settled in a Stroudsburg Airpark across the mountain after they closed up... Yep, in 72 it was only $ 15.00 Solo..
That’s nuts!! It’s literally thousands now just to solo! And 7-14k for private pilot license.
Times have change sinse then mate and wagers wss only about £18 per week 240 pence in the pound lol
Cost is always relative to decade. We in UK are too cheap at equivalent of $250/hr.
@@stephenstead6333 I was paying £23/ hour in 1979. I was taking home as 19 year old £26 a week.
My instructor always said - your certification is a license to learn. This is the beginning of the learning experience, not the end. Hope you’re passing that along to your students
That is good advice, no matter the endeavor.
You right tjis when you start your learning when you on your own. mate
Good outlook
“Your certification is a license to learn”. Excellent advice/evaluation of certification
I'm glad I did the 40+ hours of training. Prepared me for several emergencies that I encountered over the years.
can you describe what type of emergencies
Well this is a certificate not a license so definitely need more flight time but if you pass the ppl and ground school CFI signs offf then at least it gets you going at least locally worse case scenario. I think it’s a great idea.
"Over the years", a pilot should have enough experience to overcome many situations...
Certificate = License
No matter what certificate u have always keep training and moving up. Get ur ticket and train on.
Here's the thing about earning a pilot's license. People used to ask me, "How long does it take?" And I would ask, "Why does it matter? From the very first day, you're FLYING."
That's a big deal. It doesn't matter that it takes 40 hours (legally) or longer if you need it. What matters is from the very first day, you're flying. And sometime after about 8-15 hours, you're able to fly solo.
Your license gives you the chance to take passengers and fly at night without an instructor. Those are cool. But long before you have your license, you're having fun.
Thank you for this comment. You've almost restored my faith in people who post on RUclips, but not my faith in humanity as a whole just yet.
I have a friend who owns a light sport aircraft…. But he won’t fly cross country in it. “It takes too long, my cruise is only 100 knots”.
And I think to myself, “So? Slower just more time having fun in the air!”
@@ssn608 He should be thankful that he has something to fly in. At 60+ (my age) I wish I could get back up there. My priorities and finances have changed over the years. Enjoy what you've got - that's the answer. Time will take care of itself.
That's what I realized when I started. I was so worried about doing my solos and taking friends flying, but my instruction hours are just as fun as all that.
I'm too afraid of embarrassing myself, flying and speaking to ATC. I just don't have the speech ability even though I do have my Dispatcher Liscense 😶
I believe one can learn to fly in 10 hours. Learning to handle emergencies, and critical situations requires much more training.
Yep.
Also just because you require a minimum of 10 hours doesn't mean you will get a PPG license in 10 hours.Could be twice that. Or more even. Someone with an ultralight license might be able to do it in 10 hours because they know how to fly already
@@eclipser2004 in the US you don't need any license to fly an Ultralight or Paramotor alone.
Talking to tower and traffic was my biggest problem. You basically have to know what they will tell you.
Well said
There's a big difference between attaining a license to fly (which is really a license to learn) and becoming an experienced, skilled, and safe pilot. I almost can't believe, or appreciate, someone being given the responsibility of a flight instructor so quickly.
Good Video - love Florida weather. I flew for over 20 years in Alaska and I bought my 170 in the mid 80s before learning to fly - I never was interested in learning to solo in 10 or 15 or even 20 hours - I was only interested in soloing when I felt ready. And I think this is the best way to look at it. Don't push it - you will know when you are ready.
I've been instructing [in airplanes] for 46 years and never knew about this path to a pilot certificate or this learn-to-fly option. Very interesting! And looks like a lot of fun.
And then, with a PPL - Glider... one goes on to do a PPL-airplane as an ADD-ON.... you will need 40 hours of time in aircraft, including 20 hours dual instruction in an AIRPLANE, and 10 hours solo in an AIRPLANE. The 10 hours getting your glider ppl can count for the remaining 10. Of course most people don't get a ppl airplane at 70 hours.... most more nearly double that. But if you have been tooling around in a motor glider just... flying places... flying cross country, doing patterns, etc. those topics will be easy when being instructed in airplane, and less hours in an airplane may be required. And of course, that dread engine out landing in an airplane will be old hat., as seen in this video.
I was flying the other day, and somebody was practicing an engine out in the pattern, and sounded kind of stressed about it. I was practicing an engine out starting 5000 feet and 10 miles from the airfield l in my motorglider, and had to bleed off a lot of altitude (about 2000 feet) to get to the pattern altitude as I was on the 45 to the downwind.
There is no shortcut for a PPL aircraft license. You still have to do the solo hours in a type, and do the cross-country, etc. And the written. This glider thing is bullshit.
@@foobarmaximus3506 lol! People have been getting their glider rating this wat for as long as private pilots been getting theirs. The FAA allows this, so where is the BS?
Soon enough you will be able to do it in a sim,only a matter of time
The times, tech, and equipment, and the FAR's have changed.
Flying a single engine basic trainer is pretty easy. Flying the rules, regulations, radio etiquette etc is way more complex. Weather adds to the mix. Well worth it though.
Agree 100%. Cessna 152/172s are very forgiving.
@@rabbitholereviews Yes and no. Flying a 172 into bad weather (learning to not)...flying into uncontrolled airspace with 5 our aircraft all trying to land...there is SOOOO much more to flying.
True. I've flown my buddy's Cessna 152 many times, with him beside me of course, including takeoffs and landings. Never had a flying lesson. Just like driving a car, but there's no way I could remember all the regulations, radio chatter with the Alpha, Victor, Charlie, blah, blah, blah and all that other crap.
@@danieltaylor4819 "all the regulations, radio chatter with the Alpha, Victor, Charlie, blah, blah, blah and all that other crap."...that's flying. And taking off a C152 is easy. Knowing what to do when there is a problem is not.
@@edwardr5084 I don't disagree with that.
My father was a military flight instructor in WW2. After he bought and sold aircraft. He flew everywhere. My two brothers and one sister have been pilots since the age of 16. I am the only that is not a pilot, but served and retired from the military. Now, at age 78, I wish that I had not turned down the Army's flight school for Special Forces.
Inspiring video🏆
Life zooms by so fast, but we can’t choose ALL the doors of opportunity, just so little time. Thank you for your service.
Be well!
I bet you have still had a great life though...Well done.
@@nikkimontgomery6889 Thanks
@@EuropePropertyDebt Thanks
Don’t blame the school for this. They are following the FAA rules. If you don’t like it, complain to the FAA. The same principle applies to rich people who pay no taxes (legally). They are just taking advantage of the IRS rules. If you don’t like rich people paying little to no taxes, complain to the IRS. This is the same thing so don’t blame the school for putting together this kind of program.
Uh oh, another internet tax expert. Complaining to the IRS will get you nowhere. Only congress has the power to change the tax code.
Well said very well said.....I hope to checkout their program soon
You do know that the rich pay almost all of the taxes in the US right? 1% of the population pays 40% of all income taxes. The top 10% pays 70% of all taxes. Maybe check the numbers before you say dumb things.
Right, it's only gonna kill a few people right? Millennials have no problem with this. So GTM, there is absolutely a problem. Your just trying to sidestep liability and responsibility. Just like a child.
What a dumb comment. Let's randomly dump on an entire segment of the population for no reason. Maybe look into your Napoleon complex.
I had no clue about this as an option. I looked at gliding but had no clue about the motorized glider option and the benefits you showed us in this video. Thank you so much!
I think I soloed in less than 15 hours. I bought a 7ECA Champ for 9 grand in 1984 and learned to fly it with a CFI friend teaching me. The radios and using other cockpit instruments were very familiar to me as I was an avionics tech on Navy Patrol aircraft not to many years before.
I've been to Alaska three times & met the then oldest "bush pilot" still flying, Don Derring, age 77 in 1999!
I understand that there are more private pilots per capita in Alaska than any other state! I took 6 lessons
on a two-seat "Champion" in 1963 at age 17, but never soloed! The plane was destroyed after a 16 year old
student soloed but crashed a few flying hours later on an unsanctioned & uneven landing area! Best of luck!
I moved to Inverness in March 69. I left 😢after HS to pursue my life in 71. I got my PPL in Brooksville because there was nothing at the Inverness airport. My God you made it absolutely outstanding! I am retiring in July and I will be taking my Cygnet Amphibian down in the winter to visit and reminisce. I will meet you soon Andy
What a great trainer. Always positive, always confident. It helps a person learn with a patient instructor who can give them confidence.
This is a great idea as a compliment to a PPL or light sport. Gliders require skills not typical of regular planes. The Gimli Glider incident showed how glider piloting skills can be helpful.
Good on the FBO and flight school for introducing a (relatively) inexpensive way to fly. That said, an "instructor" or even a "demo pilot" with 30 hours is as competent to teach flying as I am to perform surgery after watching a season of Grey's Anatomy. When everything lines up and the airport is in sight, he or she is probably OK. When anything out of the ordinary happens mechanically, with the weather, with the pilot, you have zero backup in the way of experience to put the beans back in the bag. Just saying.
I disagree
@@Digital__rb elaborate.
@@daddysenpai681 flying is so much easier than surgery, and 30 hours of flying is so much more experience than a season of greys anatomy
Also this license is only good for VFR and the plane only flies for a few hours at a time so weather wouldnt be a factor
No shit sherlock
After 4200 majority IP/FE hours in the Tomahawk, 172, T-37, T-38, F-16, and 100 combat missions, many as Mission Commander and FAC-A, plus tens of thousands of RC hours over 45 years, which definitely helps, I still feel like I could use another 10K hours to gain much needed experience.
TFYS 🇺🇸
Don't feel bad, some people take longer to catch on than others. 🛩
You are correct, sir! These people think there is a shortcut. It's their life and death - let them think what they want. Most of these will Crash and Burn.
@@dougearnest7590 Yeah, there are "C" doctors, too. not sure how the ones that come into a country are rated. But we'll soon find out with the shortage of people due to mandates and deaths.
@@foobarmaximus3506 "Most.... will crash and burn"? Where's the data on that? I suspect most will have a hell of a lot of fun living their dream and will be perfectly safe while doing so. 70% will go on to earn private pilot certificates.
A very few will crash and burn. Life is full of risks, and sooner or later, something kills every single one of us. I'd rather die swiftly crashing and burning than slowly while lying under flourescent lights in a pool of my own excrement in a nursing home the way most people do. Jesus Christ 😅
Minimum hours are just that. I started my PPL in a 172 and had to switch to SPL with about 13 hours logged. Light Sport is 20 hours and my time counts, however, I'll still need about 20 in the P92 before I get my license. Most people over 40 earn it by about +/- ten hours of their age. While the P92 is similar, I have to learn a new cockpit and procedures. The basics are the same, but different. Either way, aviation is a blast.
I learned to fly on gliders. I have some time in motorgliders and I have PPL training time. This licence looks perfect for me.
Wow... Real Land of The Free!
And here I am, dreaming about flights, here in Siberia, Russia, working for $300 a month.
USA is a real Dream Land!
Thanks for your Video!
Comrade Biden is working to make us equal.
@@screddot7074 bastard putin ruins everything
Russia is a shithole
Flying is easy.
Navigation, communication and meteorology is harder when you have to combine all four skills.
Right? I had about 3 hrs of instructor led flying 25 years ago. He said I had a good grasp of the basics but he didn't think it made sense to do more until I passed ground school. Working in two back to back start-up companies left little time and no money for study or instruction and getting a cert was put on the back shelf. It would be interesting to see how this program works. 🤔
Edit: I forgot to mention, the hardest part of my 3 hrs instruction was talking to the tower.
Lol, same as driving.... But its the rules that / knowlegde that makes you a great driver/pilot
@@alanploetz7100 25years ago :') can be for sure it is now much harder :') not only age but rules also
Cries in instrument rating
Thanks for the ride mr. I've always said ... I'd rather go 60 in the air than 160 on the ground. Staying in the circuit doing 'touch and goes' is more fun than any amusement park
Right Rudder advertises the complete private glider training package at $2499. Not sure why this video says $3000. That is super expensive.
After removing the cost of the headset, books and incidentals that's around $270 per hour. Private Pilot instruction, including wet plane rental, is at least $100 per hour less. Glider instruction is generally much less than that.
As a glider CFI, I hope they are teaching good glider skills and not just motor around.
I would hope that a CFI might actually watch the video before posting negative comments. Apparently not.
@@gt4th I would hope that the fourth generation would have learned by now not to make sarcastic comments.
@@wiley0714 Hmm. You think that was sarcastic? Haha. Ok then. If you would like sarcastic I can do that. I am fearful You may start crying though. But I guess that is the chance you take trolling in on random conversations ah?And why would one learn NOT to be sarcastic? Is it so that I don't offend someone that I called out for being rude? Oh no. Or offend someone that is trolling the internet trying to start an argument for no particular reason other than maybe lack of female (or male)companionship has made him angry?
Not sure why I am explaining this other than the fact the first 3 men with my name taught me to not only stand up for myself, but also to stand up for others given the chance, especially if they haven't stood up for themselves, and also let others know so. Your welcome. This CFI is clearly upset because his competition is using powered gliders to train people and he is not. For him to say "I hope they are teaching good glider skills" Is extremely rude, and clearly shows he didn't even watch the vid. before his negative post , as he would have seen if he did they ARE teaching glider skills. How would you like some stranger coming along and saying about you, oh I hope he is doing a good job! At the job you get paid to do, while they have no idea if you are or not. Kind of like someone popping in on a conversation and saying something rude and stupid while insinuating that person being spoken to is somehow different, even unintelligent, and or rude because his ancestors of 3 generations have the same name? Or wait, should be smarter and less rude.. Um err. Well. Anyway.That would just be silly right? Do you think I should teach #5 what I guess I was never taught? To not offend easily offended snowflakes with his sarcasm? Naa. Maybe number 6 won't be such an as$ hole ah? We will see.You keep guarding the internet though, and watching for sarcasm because you really are making it a better place.I can tell people are way more polite because of you. You should be proud of yourself.Thank you so much for your concern, really. Peace.
@@gt4th .. wow thatz a lot
@@venusreena2532 Lol. Right. I was bored I guess.
One of the best lessons I've learned over my time of being an engineer is, "meets regulation" is oftentimes not synonymous with "safe". Meets regulation is the requirement to stay in business. Having strong safety requirements beyond that is how you keep people safe and achieve excellence in what you do. That combined with "just because you can doesn't mean you should" makes me really nervous about this.... loophole for "gliders".
The real reason it takes 65 hours for so many is b/c most of your flying hours you are sitting in the airplane on the ground wasting your Time and money listening to the CFI or waiting to take off...One hour of flight time is really about 25-35 mins flying the plane...and the slower they are in taking off the more money for the flight school or the CFI that you hired...so, find a small airport and do your training there and or Buy a plane and train in it and you will save $10,000 dollars and then resale the plane and get a better one...or lease or rent it out and do it all for free or very cheaply!
Ohhhh - finally a dream come true. I will look into this program soon. Love and passion for airplanes is what defines me.
"Ignition to off." Naw homie, I'm good! 😂😂😂
I'm so encouraged by this video! thank you!
I just turned 50 last week. I think this may be my new life goal is to learn to fly. This video is phenomenal and very intriguing to me.
At my flight school, we had a few guys older than you come and get their private. You can definitely do it
Cooler than a hair transplant and a convertible mustang
This is wonderful because from what I heard, about half of those who start flying lessons never finish.
This will get more people flying, then they will eventually get their private pilot's license.
yeap, and more of them getting killed due to lack of real training, save a $1000 and go for a private license which includes ground school.
Half? I wish! It’s my understanding that only 8% of starts finish.
I want my grandkids to learn in this plane! 60 years flying and want to leave them a skill. Flown all kinds of planes but this is very impressive.
I have yet to fly a Pipistrel but everything I have heard is they are extremely easy to fly, loads of fun, and relatively cheap (flying has gotten so cost prohibitive for most).
This good practice to fly ...
Nice knowledge...
Everyone hope can fly
If I had wealth I would love to learn this 10 hour flight time. I think it's awesome.
People like instant accomplishments but if you want to do it right you need to be thorough. Thorough takes time.
I've flown all kinds of fixed wings, but the 10 hour claim to reasonable competence is, well questionable IMHO from what I've seen. BUT, learning to fly in a 'glider' and what you learn taking this route is priceless, not just myself but seeing other pilots becoming MUCH more competent in pushing powered tin around the sky.
I would assume your CFI would have final say if you are ready. He just stated minimum number of hours. Some people are smart enough and have the aptitude to pick it up that fast. Some do not. Why force the people who CAN do things safely to go the long route because some cannot. There are some folks out there who will never be able to learn to fly no matter how much time you give them...
@@TedSchoenling Simply, being competent in putting an unpowered aircraft into a small field is invaluable. Flying gliders (and for me before that hang gliders) does this better than any SEL training. Your entire mindset changes flying sailplanes (gliders), constantly evaluating landing options while flying. How many engine-out off field forced landings does SEL training administer? Zero. Probably same for the CFI. Yet that situation is what kills power pilots because it's completely unfamiliar. Glider pilots laugh when the SEL CFI pulls power asking what they're going to do. I did, and so do others I know. We've already evaluated 2 or 3 potentials and not only picked the best one but planned our approach, in a few seconds. And this mindset never goes away, flying anything.
I know everyone thinks about the cost, but more should think about if u feel u have learned enough and the important things about flying. A lot to learn take it slow and easy and once ur comfortable keep expanding. This is one part abt aviation. U never stop learning.
Soooo fun! I wish this was available when I was young. My friend had a Cesna 182. We went everywhere (California) I loved flying but never wanted the engine to turn off. 🙂 How fun!
Did my first discovery flight here and loved it.
This is a fun video, GREAT camera work and good video of just talking while flying. There I was, 1967, 18 and starting AARRMMYY TTRRAAINING at Ft Wolters primary helicopters. 1968 final exam in VietNam. Ya'll enjoy this new stuff - I sure enjoyed the ride .
@Ed ... God Bless the Vietnam veterans! 🇺🇸
Man! Cut the engine at 1500 feet (?) and glide home to land. Amazing. Gives a factor of security if engine does fail. (?)
I doubt NZ flying PPL is obtainable through this ‘shortcut’.
Āe rā e hoa! No way you’d get a PPL using this shortcut even with a light sports ‘plane.
I did the program with RR, the Alpha Trainer is a blast to fly!
How long did it take? (I'm talking hours of flying and days/weeks/months overall.)
@@dougearnest7590 I had started training back in 07 and stopped in 08 when the market crashed, so I did have past experience.
Took me 2.5 months, flying only some weekends, but only 7 days of flying. I did it in the minimum time required and only paid the flat fee.
@@FlyinMike84 -- Thanks for the prompt response - and congratulations on getting it done. I emailed that outfit with a few basic questions and never got a response. I was thinking that they either didn't want my money, or I asked questions they didn't want to answer.
@@dougearnest7590 They just became the new US Pipistrel distributor and had been extremely busy. I believe they are working on more staff to make that better.
If you can call, that may be the best right now. If I can help with anything else, let me know.
@@FlyinMike84 - Okay, thank you for that info. I have a couple of exams coming up in the next two weeks for which I need to study. After that I'm going to be giving some serious consideration to getting my (glider) license - The questions I had were sort of a pesky list of things I was curious about, not something I expect a busy person to know offhand and answer over the phone -- hence, the email. I might be in touch at some point after exams. Thanks again!
Minimum hours are just that, minimum. To become proficient, to become safe or safer requires a lot more hours. Been flying for 43 years, have over 5,000 hours now. I probably was getting right at about 1,000 hrs…that’s a few more than 10hrs. I do support the idea/concept of getting more people interested in flying, love that part. Again, not hating, just my humble opinion. Keep making these vid’s and putting them out there.
I learned to fly and became licensed. I never had an overwhelming urge to fly. I just wanted to see if I could do it. It always seemed like intense work every time I went aloft. I was flying in the mid Atlantic region. To say it was complicated is an understatement. After several years I relinquished my certification.
Really cool that you pushed your limits, got out of your element. When the shtf you're the kind of person who will survive!
I love that there are people who can only dream of flying, but sadly don't have the financial backing to do so. Thanks for sharing your story about how you wasted money, just to see if you could do something, rather than cultivating it and passing that knowledge along, only to let your cert expire. Tell me your parents had money or your're a trust fund baby, without really telling me. Ultra douchey comment of the year right here.
@@Constitutionalist76 wow, mean comment.
I bet you're a socialist, or maybe full blown commie!
Only reason I'm watching aviation videos is for the same reason OP stated. I'm interested enough to try it, but probably won't persue it past cert. Just want to see if I can do it. Then I want to become a railroad engineer.
I dont find it complicated at all if you just avoid controlled airspace . Yes you never stop learning when you're a pilot or a musician or an athlete or a scientist....or a...you get the idea
Pipistrel looks gorgeous, and many people who want to become private pilots have to watch this video.
I soloed at 10 hours, 17 years old on a flying brick Piper Colt. On a busy class D airport. 3 touch and goes with short approaches too. And forward slips too. I never have handled a motor machine in my life. My english was poor due im latino and have never spoke a word of english except hamburgers and hot dogs and ... Coca Cola.. But hey, Coca Cola is Spanish name.. lol. It is good that non rich, hard working people can fly at 10 hours too. Piper Colt dont glide, they drop like hell when power off. Short wing Pipers are not built since 1960's. Too dangerous with power off.
I hit "like" because I like you guys getting people into flying. That's awesome.
10 hrs? /Shrug
If you guys were in my neighborhood I'd give you a shot.
It scares me that a 10hr pilot says "I'm going to do this engine-off stuff like I learned from the other low-time pilot who learned from that other low-time pilot."
Ehud
Tucson, Arizona
FAA Commercial Helicopter Pilot -- but I'm not casting any shade your way. I'd fly with you, but I'd be clenching all my cheeks.
Great video! The CFI was awesome!
If this path is a gateway to flying that’s one thing. Letting newbie pilots loose after just 10 hours in powered aircraft is totally another. Hope the school is setting proper due expectations with incoming students
Those darn birds !!! @3:00-3:05
@floridaflying , ANDY! Great to see you doing great things!!
This is vary interesting. Got a couple of questions- (1) what is the glide ratio, (2) can this glider catch thermals like regular gliders, hang gliders?
The glide ratio of the Alpha Trainer is 15:1. With this it is theoretically possible to ascend using strong thermals, but you can't expect it to act like a true glider (without an engine).
What do you do with this value?
@@venusreena2532 for every 15 feet forward, you drop one foot in altitude. You can substitute meters or miles or whatever unit measurement you like.
@@MegaMike7 .. power gliders they use are much higher i think
About 15:1 on a strong day you could termal with this. I have a friend with a Kitfox Model II that he has soared.
Things have really changed since I earned my private pilots certificate. When he said $3000 I just about fell out of my chair because my total cost was $695 to my full private pilots license. I was fortunate and had a great instructor and I soloed at 7.5 hours. He really tricked me when he got out of the plane and said said, just after landing, go ahead and fly the pattern. Learning to fly and flying is a great experience. Today you can get the same view that pilots and their passengers get by watching videos that are shot by drones. But there is still nothing quite like being in the left seat and being the pilot in command or the PIC.
No question that gliding is a great way to get started especially for teenagers. However claims like “learn to fly in 10 hours” do aviation a huge disservice because the claim is not true. Sure you can learn to manipulate the aircraft well enough to takeoff, land, basic flight maneuvers in 10 hours but you haven’t learned to fly- you’ve learned to manipulate the aircraft. I’m a retired flight school owner and our best and at the same time worst students were the 10 hour wonders. We had a guy who solo’d at 4 hours that I doubt will ever know how to fly- safely. It’s one of the big problems in the airline industry. Pilots are flying the automation but when that breaks (think 737 Max or Air France Flight 447) they are flying perfectly good aircraft into the ground/ocean killing hundreds at a time because they can’t fly the plane unless all automated systems working perfectly.
Boohoo
Well, here’s the thing: you’ve laid out your concerns about student pilots or recent PPL’s only having a surface level knowledge of how to fly a plane. ie just the basics of manipulating a plane. And if true, no reasonable person would disagree such pilots are dangerous. But glider piloting is as close to pure flight as you can get. Without an engine, one really gets a feel for the characteristics of air and how the plane is truly navigating through it, and therefore I think your comment is misplaced. As to the claim that through this program one could “learn to fly in 10 hours”- that just a marketing gimmick. And I think all involved know that. Also, I’m sure this school informs their students that they’ll need many more hours before they become proficient, if there is such a thing.
I soloed in 10 hrs 25 years ago. I started lessons in November and got my PPC in February the following year and have flown safely ever since...
Well why’d you let the guy solo at 4 hours if you didn’t think he’d be a safe pilot? That sounds like there’s something wrong with the instructors/school if you’re allowing people like that to just go on through instead of teaching them how to be a safe pilot. Sounds like you were just in it for the money instead of training safe competent pilots. I’m not saying you were doing that just saying that’s what you make it sound like.
Really it's down to developing long term memory, reaction time, and muscle memory, which is why it takes longer. You don't want to be up there with just a few hours when something goes wrong or in a complex situation. Definitely not enough for employment, but good enough for joy rides under controlled conditions and good weather.
wow! ok, this video got me thinking about coming down to Inverness and signing up for this!
I love your backing music, it makes me feel like I'm watching Mr. Roger's neighborhood
I am so enthused that I found this video and program. I will make this happen for myself.
Over a decade of flight sim, I took my first discovery flight a year ago. CFI was pretty impressed with my knowledge, and how I handled myself. CFI encouraged me to continue. Sadly I'm too poor to obtain a PPL. Never knew this was an option outside of a sports license. That motorized glider is amazing.
Ummmm Florida here we come!!!!
I got my private pilot license in 1996. I soloed at 51 hours, meaning I had 51 hours of paid instructor lessons. After I soloed, I had to complete a “cross country” flight. I think I had to fly a total of 500 miles?? Maybe.. but I also had to land at two airports not on my usual route. I had 40 hours of ground school, passed a written test and then passed a check ride with a FAA employee that was his job to check pilots flying abilities for the certificate they were going for. I understand that was 27 years ago, but my total cost was $4500. Based on inflation I would be looking at $9000.00 in today’s dollars. Even today you are looking at under $200 per hour to get a private license.
What’s the good news of a 14yo with very limited hours, flying cross country through all weather, Flight conditions, and traffic areas? Lucky to be alive, and to not have killed anyone else.
I still find it hard to believe.. unless they did without a license or meant flew balloons.. if I understand you need to be minimum 17 to obtain a license..
People think it’s a bragging right someone that young did such thing.. it’s pretty dangerous and unnecessary, if it actually happened
@@c.v.v You can fly a glider solo at 14 years old. Motorglider too..
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14 Year Old Glider Pilot Flies Solo / WXII 12 News
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14yr old Pilot Glider Solo across USA / Rizak Flys
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Her father was flying (near)in support, she had learned comms& was endorsed for to fly cross country, class C,etc, amazing young lady.
This is an awesome combination of glider vs Cessna style plane. Great combination.
Does your Private Pilot Glider Rating require that you make all your landing unpowered? Can you fly into fields with a tower? Is their a max speed (120 mph) as in Light Sport Aircraft?
Bump for an answer to this question?? thx
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Yes you can fly into a towered airport as a Private Pilot Glider, a powered glider need not necessarily land power off, there is no speed limit. A powered glider glider can have retractable gear and an inflight adjustable propeller.
You have all the privileges of a private pilot except limited to powered gliders like the pipistrel. You may fly to 18000ft, out of the country and at night.
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Clean looking little puddle jumper....Wonder about its range and how much baggage I could load into it?
The cost prohibitive is probably a good thing. I’ve seen military pilots who had no business flying. Piloting is not driving in the air. Just like a brand new sixteen year old driver shouldn’t get a Dodge Demon as his first car, not everyone should be able to get a pilot certificate.
Not that you would ever mean to discourage a young person who held a passion to learn to fly right! After all, tomorrow's Chief Pilot could be reading your comment today and think to themselves, nah, I guess he's taking about me! Just a thought!
@@travelingman8230 if they are that easily discouraged, then the first time ATC chews them out, then they would be done. I see this as a money making venture for instructors padding a resume, nothing else.
@@travelingman8230 one other thing, you have an opportunity to teach young people discouragement is an obstacle you will always face in life and it’s better to push it aside and work through or around the obstacles that cause it, but you think it’s better to show them someone else should remove it for them? They’re better off not having someone like you in their life.
JD every bit of what you just said is wrong and I dare say few ppl would agree with your mentality on this subject. There is going to be a pilot shortage in the coming years, we need to encourage not discourage new pilots. This type rating and the way to achieve it, may seem beneath your flight chop snobbery, but for most it is merely opening a door to bigger and more advanced training. The training departments of the majors are looking for pilots from diverse backgrounds, not just jet jockeys or daddies money bought them 400hrs. Why are you so jaded, you sound like a child who doesn't want others to share his accomplishments because they earned them in a different manner! Do me a favor, stay away from young influential minds, you sound like an old crab!
@@travelingman8230 It is just called reality.
Blows me away. I would think a glider rating take alot more time!!
In my country you need to absolve 45 hours of flying by any airplane license training..! Well,Ultralight plane license is cheaper,but it´s all the difference...
I would be careful about where I flew , if I had one of these, and air speed & stall awareness are critical.
Cool plane and video. I think what made the video more enjoyable was the tilt and pan features of the camera. Thanks.
awesomeness!!! I flew about 2,000 hours and this is mind blowing. and thank you for not playing some schlock crappy hip ass doofus "cool" rap metal musak in the background. very chill video. top class production
Got to say. The instructor was a breath of fresh air. Not a thing like those nasty ones on FSX.
Hi Andy. I have just seen your RUclips video on getting your private gliding license using your Pipistrel Alpha Glider. My name is Mr Robinson and I live in London England UK. Do you offer a package where overseas candidates could take your private gliding license but also have some form of accommodation in or around the airport? It would be a very long way for me to travel, but I would also need somewhere to stay. I am dyslexic so passing the written exams would be of some concern to me. I am willing to do what it takes, if you’re willing to assist me to pass all the exams.I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible. Much regards Mr Robinson.
Ok, that was very very cool.... I was taught be purpousely High every time in the old 140. Eng quits got plenty of room, then slip it in if needed. Every landing we did was power off.
So it takes 30 more hours to learn to land with the engine on?
only 10 more hours for light sport, for half the price, 150. hr most schools vrs there 300.hr
40 hours is the MINIMUM time. Very few people only take 40 hours to get their PPL. I think the national average is about 50-60 hours.
If you subtract night, instrument, cross country, control tower, etc from ASEL’s 40 hours then 10 is about all you’re left with…
Seems to me a great skill to learn for a PPL, just for emergencies helps take some of the fear factor out of it.
Most of the people that trained with me did their solo in 8 to 9 hrs of flight time.
Look at that; I just happen to live 10 miles from Inverness. This school has opened recently i think, within the last two years.
I don't understand how one can fly a motor aeroplane with a glider licence... it seems those things are rather strange in the US. Here in Europe you can only fly gliders with a glider licence - you can't certify a plane with an engine as a glider. For motorgliders you still need a motorglider licence. And another thing: 10 hours is only the minimum required time. I can't imagine anyone learing to safely fly a plane in just 10 hours of flight.
i could totally pull it off. i learned to ride a motorcycle on the way home from the dealership on my first bike
It's very different. You're not gonna just figure out how to land. It takes at least a little brains to fly a plane, but pretty much anyone that can ride a bicycle can ride a motorcycle.
@@mctransportation9831 hahaha i have been waiting for 2 days to see if anyone would bite.
@@cheezyridr 🤣 good one. They are about the same, right?
In the US you can be issued a Private Pilot Glider License with a self launch endorsement.
Holly Schmoly, that is assume. I'll check for this opportunity in Orange County CA
is this a good thing?
What a great concept, never heard of it before, I doubt it would be allowed under NZ regulations.
I only flew gliders, soloed after 5 hours, but that was an awful lot of take offs and landings on auto tow, as well as airplane launches. Would have loved to fly this way.
An excellent video, thanks.
Most people can be taught to fly that in about an hour. But the actual flying is the easy bit.
take off and landing is more hard, its like an art screwup and you are toast lol.
@@keithmorrison6176 Yest indeed. Many years ago the Americans were bringing their stuff over here. Giving people an hour's training and then saleing them the aircraft. We heard of people trying to land and take of down wind and all sort. No training to look out for wires crossing fields no flying around an area before trying to land. Yes indeed the flying is the easy bit. It's all the knowledge that you only get good at with time.
This instructor was great for such little exprience.
🤷♂️ license isn't the issue, it's the cost of buying, equipping, maintaining, and storing a plane that doesn't make a whole lot of sense for 95% of the world. Then there's the reason to even need to fly your own aircraft outside of the seldom occasions you'll take it out for recreation.
Very nice,Great little plane just to enjoy weekends and short trips, Belus
The implication that getting a glider rating allows you to transition to a PPL as though it were an 'add on' is ludicrous. The FAA requires a MINIMUM of 35 hours Part 141 or 40 hours Part 61 to obtain a PPL and it takes an average pilot about 65 hours to become proficient and safe. Proficient and safe. Proficient and safe. Aviation is not for those looking to cut corners or hang their hopes on FAA minimums. When it all goes wrong at low altitude and you find yourself in a life or death scenario with 10 hours logged - looking to Section 61 of your FAR/AIM won't be much help.
I'm I wrong thinking it was 40 hours when I got mine in 1986? And that was probably to little?
Flying is pretty easy.. and easy to understand. The real problem is most people are idiots and can't even safely drive a car. Also with this license you still have to have FAA approved check ride and can only fly in planes that have a glider certificate... Most of which are near impossible to crash unless you purposely do a nose dive into the ground. This is actually a great program. It introduces people to flying at much more affordable and less stressful environment. It also, from the get go, teaches gliding, which Is probably one of the most important aspect of flying. Most people that have engine outs low to the ground forget how to glide because besides doing it once or twice in training.. they haven't really done it. I would say this actually a way safer form of learning. This is basically a glorified powered hang glider.. but with training.
If you subtract night, instrument, cross country, control tower, etc from ASEL’s 40 hours then 10 is about all you’re left with…
So, if you want to add on ASEL to an existing Private Pilot Certificate w/ glider rating you need to do the parts of 61.109 that say “in a single engine airplane.” But it’s done under the provisions of additional category/class not Student Pilot.
The training in the video is also 61.109…
Worth every penny (or cent) - What a great experience. Being Florida I don't suppose you have too many bad weather days restricting Lesson flights, much easier to concentrate learning into a short period without forgetting what you just learnt.
This should be how EVERY pilot should start.
Had my first ever flight in one of those not too long ago. Been dying to get back up in the air! Never flown a plane before that but I have to say I think getting a license is totally worth it.
Wow thank you for this!
Awesome, now I just need to find time and one near me. Thanks for the info and video
"As a motorglider, you get all the perks of a light sport airplane in half of the flight training time. (Refer to FAR 61:109 and 61:129)" - 10 hours in not half of the flight training time - what is the trick ?)
Sport pilots minimums are 20 hours so half of that is 10
Sport Pilot requires 20 hours. 20 divided by 2 is 10. Private Pilot with a glider rating requires 10 hours. So, “half of Sport Pilot.”
That's an awesome video! Thanks...I am learning on the Sinus in San Antonio...This was great to watch!
I made it to 3:18 and now I have to fire up my flight sim.
This was a great video. Thx I loved it.
Very nice and cheaper than I thought
Excellent video guys. Love to do your private pilot glider program some day soon.
Super intriguing! Does Right Rudder Aviation offer glider-add ons?
Yes
That's such an exciting and ambitious goal! Learning to fly is a remarkable skill, and the fact that it can be achieved in just 10 hours shows how accessible and achievable dreams can be with the right guidance and determination. The sky's the limit, and this kind of endeavor truly inspires others to reach for their own goals, no matter how high they might seem! 🛫✨