I am a hunter. But I only hunt for food, and I have never targeted or killed an endangered species. I personally don't like trophy hunting. I can understand culling to help sustain a population at a stable level, but if you're not going to eat it, don't kill it
@@ultroy-motorslimitedlnc Ethical? Are you crazy? Tell me what is ethical about murdering animals for selfish taste pleasure. Just another excuse for eating dead animal flesh.
You don't have to kill for survival. Not unless you're an indigenous man living in a place with zero edible crops. This circumtance doesn't apply to the majority of people.
Trophy hunters killed the largest lions in Africa back in 1930s. This affects the establishment of a diversified species. Trophy hunters belong in jails or worse.
I have a question: if the fundamental problem is finding money to fund conservation instead of relying on trophy hunting, why do we not explore the idea of conservation carbon credit trading more?
Because the idea of "carbon neutrality" or "conservation neutrality" is a lie. You can't emit 10,000 tons of carbon and then buy "offsets" to be "neutral" Those 10,000 tons. The goal shouldn't be carbon neutrality but carbon negative or carbon zero. I emit 10,000 tons of carbon, then I buy offsets that state that 10,000 tons worth of carbon absorption of trees will be planted. Do they get planted right away? No. Do they absorb 10,000 tons worth of carbon right away? No. Is there a strong possibility that those trees being planted are actually for a forestry company to cut down when mature? Yes. I emitted 10,000 tons of carbon in 1 year with my business, but it's totally cool because the trees I paid to have planted will absorb that over 100 years. So every year I emit 10,000 tons and then in that 1 year (possible but unlikely) the trees planted absorb 100 tons of carbon. 1 year : +10,000 tons / -100 tons 2 years +20,000 tons / - 300 tons 3 years +30,000 tons / - 600 tons 4 years +40,000 tons / - 1000 tons. So now I'm carbon neutral but in 4 years I have emitted 40,000 tons of carbon into the atmosphere but my offsets have only absorbed 1000 tons. Not very neutral. The same thing would happen with "conservancy credits" You would pay someone to "conserve" the wildlife and that might include culling the wildlife. But it would probably get called "herd health management" or "active population management" so that everyone feels good and no one asks what exactly that means.
What would that entail? Western companies donating/investing in conservation projects so they gain carbon credits with which they are allowed to contaminate more? I would be surprised if that wasn't already happening, although not quite in the scale you're thinking of. Many multinational companies will boast about planting trees just to greenwash their massive exploitative profits. But the reality is that most of these projects are insignificant because the follow-up is shorter than two years and trees reaching adulthood is not guaranteed. But hey, it looks good on the audit and on the website! Nobody is going to go deep into the Amazon or Canada to check whether those trees are still alive.
I completely understand the need for conservation. What I don't understand is how the "hunters" get any satisfaction from someone basically walking them up to their "prey." It's not hunting, it's an ego check.
Well here's a question that I'll ask these trophy hunters, if they're so concerned with conservation and if they really do want to hunt animals for the challenge.... Why not go to Texas and help them hunt their feral pigs? Or why not go to a place where it's unequivocably a good thing to hunt whatever animal? It's because it's not about conservation, it's like what's said in the video. Status. Or pride or a misguided belief that killing the animal makes them more masculine. All the other answers just seem to be a bunch of post-colonialist louts trying to justify why they are entitled to murder an elephant or a rhino.
@@Fledermausmann I’m positive it’s you who hasn’t seen enough. Hunters know more about the animals they hunt than people like you and me. They have strict rules to minimize the suffering when they take the shot. A lot of the animals meats are donated to the communities they’re around as well. Besides, regardless of how much the hunters actually care about conservation, it’s just a fact that it helps to conserve the wildlife. They keep the value of these animals high enough for the countries to prevent poaching.
@@FledermausmannI bet you didn’t know that a lot of the money these hunters pay for the permits to hunt these animals goes to anti poaching organisations? That stops illegal poaching and allows sustainable hunting, not to mention that the meat goes to surrounding villages, that also goes a long way to helping those villagers give up poaching to feed their families. It always amazes how people feel sorry for the poor people in Africa and want to donate all this money to help them yet actively support the stuff that goes against helping them.
It's always people in countries outside of Africa that try and dictate how African countries utilise their sustainable resources. International hunters bring in millions each year and that money goes towards local businesses, infrastructure, plumbing, education, healthcare and anti poaching. People always say that they need to ban hunting and also increase the number of anti poaching in underdeveloped African countries. Where do you expect the money for anti poaching to come from? Also, the meat that's harvested goes to local villagers who would poach to get meat, don't need to as they get meat from hunter. That gives them a reason to NOT poach using snares and traps. Hunting saves so many animals and gives back to countries. Many people have been killed due to poaching as the snares have killed off predators natural prey which then in turn, prey on people. It's a win win for everyone.
I see no one has replied to your comment, because it’s full of facts and truths most people can’t handle. I believe in Botswana they give out 5 permits a year for people to go elephant hunting. They have the best population of elephants in Africa (more than the ecosystem can actually handle now) all because these people who hunt help the country in all the ways you just explained. I wish more people could realise this and put their feelings behind logic for once.
@@spencersanderson1894the country's in Africa do and can control who comes in it becusse of the money, even if there is an endangered species there guess what it's already paid for and taken care of by the hunter, poaching still happens for the trophy hunting,the medicinal practices in China and bush meat like with most of africas primates. People inside the country very do control it. It happens all the time down in the lower regions like South Africa,samolia, Madagascar and more. Especially when the government funds reserves for the hunters to purchase an animal and buy said animal or sign forms for hunters to take care of pesky ones like a male giraffe killing small baby giraffes for females to go into heat faster or a lion just killing females or a female lion killing males. It's not people from other countries at the end of the day it's all the 30 + countries that have a say in it. Ignorants.
@@pedronycum6765 sorry are you for or against trophy hunting? I’m all for it if it’s sustainable and helps local communities because of the benefits it can provide. Although it can do very good things I believe there are people out there who exploit it for their own greed and profit but, on the whole trophy hunting (if done right) has far more benefits than negatives. Sorry if I wasn’t clear in the first comment.
@@spencersanderson1894 I am for trophy hunting when it benefits the ecosystem and me. Otherwise it's a one sided relationship, I love animals, grew up on wild Kratts and that one girls show where she had a whole house of animals and dr do little, but animals don't comprehend when they negatively affect an ecosystem just look at brazills hippos. Absolute menaces to a world that can't defend itself from them.
@@pedronycum6765 Fair play, then we are on the same side! I agree with you, there are people that don’t do it fairly or sustainably and that’s wrong. and yes there are also animals that are too much for an ecosystem, as well as the point you just made about the hippos, I made a point about the Elephants in Botswana, they have got to a population size that is too much for the ecosystem in Botswana to handle, so they need to be controlled before they cause too much damage to the environment and to humans.
How much money did these people who condemn trophy hunting contribute towards the conservation of these animals? The majority of these animals roam on private land with no government funding. Wildlife fences cost money, labor costs money, feed in the dry seasons costs money, hiring rangers cost money, treating sick animals costs money. If there's no incentive to manage wildlife for private land owners then the spaces these animals roam will be converted into agricultural land or urban developments. If you want to get rid of trophy hunting then start paying up. Simple as that
Your absolutely right, people seem to temporarily forget money makes the world go around when it comes to hunting.im not a hunter but I have always been a fisherman and have killed and eaten lots of fish. I've always said hunters should have to use a spear or bow and arrow for trophies.ive eaten plenty of deer meat that someone else shot without a problem.no matter what people say or do hunting will continue,I believe trophie hunting should be outlawed,ive seen rooms full of a hundred animal mounts alll shot by one super rich old man,ann just think how many thousands of animals he killed to get the best one for the walls.taxidermy is a legitimate proffession that employs people worldwide.theres no solution to hunting because it will continue as long as people have money to waste.
You seem to forget about the millions of people visiting African countries for the other kind of wildlife tourism, where you ¨shoot¨ an animal with your camera or phone. They might not pay as high a price per individual guest as hunters pay per dead animal, but the infrastructure required to maintain it is larger and more intricate, because they are more people: that sounds like a better way to sustain job availability in the region for locals.
@@NewAge374 true but why cant you have both? Aren’t two avenues of revenue towards conservation better than just one? And like you said a hunter is bringing way more $.
@@NewAge374 As mentioned most of the wildlife roam on private land. Tourists wants to get wined and dined and therefore they only go to bigger established reserves. They don't go to the random guy's place and sleep in a tent. I'm from South Africa and I can assure you that what you are suggesting isn't feasible across the board. It's easy to talk if you're not the one who has to implement it
As a lifelong Greenpeace supporter /activist I find trophy hunting abhorrent. However I thank DW for this balanced and informative documentary, as the last person said we need to understand and listen to both sides,surely mankind can come to a funding solution,I'm sure the people who currently run the hunting reserves would be open to continue there work of conservation if alternative revenue streems could be given them,this way they could be part of the solution going forward.A consensus must be reached. Vilification iss not th answer.Thanks DW again for excellent content
Not in any way trying to cause a row, but as a fellow activist you might relate to the experience of how hard it is for the two sides of an argument to come together. How would you do it if you stood in their shoes? Can you look someone in the eye who hunts animals for sport and gives you shit arguments about how it helps conservation, the local economy, and how they reduce the suffering by trying not to miss the first shot? Is it possible to have a discussion when you're starting from different philosophies? You might believe that nature is not there for humans to exploit or use at all, while they are scrambling to put some neo-colonial logic to their fancies. Are we allowed to show our emotions to be able to reach consensus, should we try to convince each other with pure ratio? I honestly don't know how to do it, but I'm willing to learn and take every piece of advice
I don’t even understand why is conversation of species so important? Isn’t it better if a species goes extinct naturally or survives without human intervention?
@@eno.5796 what are u trying to say exactly. Coz I am saying the same thing- if they become extinct naturally like dinosaurs did- let it be. But humans shouldn’t try to play God- they shouldn’t take away lives of animals
@Barry-p8u dinosaurs weren't hunted by man to extinction, but I was saying most creatures not just animals but insects fish even forna are being pushed to extinction by mankind.competition for resources and land and sea etc everywhere and not to forget polution and pesticides etc.very few species being kept viable that wouldn't be otherwise by man
One may not like hunting, I respect the opinion.However, in Africa in particular, those countries that have banned hunting ,have seen their wildlife population decline massively:Kenya is a very good example.The African countries with the most wildwife are the ones that are funded with hunting dollars, this is a Fact.And for info, wildlife get killed and wounded in tens of thousands by poachers in countries where hunting is banned
@@intelysisconsultants8253are you sure, show your sources? Go on the cites website for data, 50 years plus of Kenya hunting ban has not yielded its promise. Grevy's zebra is the sad illustration of it. No wildlife in mangetout and rose plantations...
I am a Kenyan and I can tell you that you are either misinformed or ignorant. The Kenya Wildlife Service is a good example of the government developing a task force to protect animals that actually works. Sure animal numbers are declining throughout Africa including Kenya, but I can tell you that we are doing better at conservation than most other African countries. Hunting is just a profitable business venture for greedy men and they will fight to keep it alive. This is a question of morality...not conservation as there are other ways that work other than hunting.
Trophy hunters more for conservation and preservation of habitat than talk from the couch or comments on social media. By adding a financial value to the wildlife, there is an incentive to preserve and conserve them in an otherwise poor country. Alternatively, wildlife are considered a cheap source of meat or competition for livestock
Very shameful to some African countries allowing this terrible service western countries shouldn't tell how Africans how to control their solutions such as this trophy hunting isn't fun. I'm thankful trophy hunting is illegal in Kenya (my country) wildlife conservation is taken very seriously despite the challenges in many wild areas in Kenya taken so seriously to the point some communities gave their lands for wildlife to roam freely and live alongside them
Kenya is home to the Grevy's zebra. It is the largest zebra in Africa and the only zebra on CITES appendix 1, endangered. Strange result for the super "conservationist" country... a sad running joke...
I hate to say it, but by making farming of such animals for hunting illegal, your government is giving poachers more reasons to want to poach these animals, for them the more likely the species is to go extinct, the more valuable to the poachers they become, with trophy hunting farming, along with farming rhinks for horns that can be cut and regrown over and over again, the animals are protected from poachers, money is made that can be used by the community for improvement, and for proper land management.
If it’s local hunting, such as local whaling in Indonesia, that I understand because it’s part of the people’s livelihood, but this is nothing short of human greed and pride
You don't understand Africa and the African attitude towards flora and fauna.. I guess chicken, cows, sheep, and pigs, will never go extinct because we eat them or find a used for them.. hmmmm.. Trophy Hunting is wrong.. but if a business model are made to preserve flora and fauna as that of Hunting ranges..( so be it )..hmmmm.. Maybe one day we could protect animals without the reason of exploiting it as wealth motivation.
Between 2014 and 2018, the U.S. imported 2,169 lion trophies, or more than 433 trophies on average per year (Table 14). All lion trophies imported into the U.S. during this period originated in Africa. The vast majority (86%) originated in South Africa, followed by Zimbabwe (6%), Tanzania (5%), Mozambique (1%), Namibia (1%) and Zambia (1%) (Table 14). Of the 2,169 lion trophies imported, 1,165 (54%) were from lions bred in captivity with almost 100% of those originating in South Africa
For people who don't get it most African countries who do wildlife conservation relies heavily in funding from trophy hunting someone has to pay all of their activities.
You want to earn a trophy? Do something that’s really meaningful, cause this is meaningless. So what if you have all these trophies? When you die, you won’t bring them with you into the afterlife. But if you put in the effort to preserve them, that’s the true trophy. On another note, as an aspiring conservationist, watching this really sickens me because nature is beautiful. Why destroy it for our own greed? It needs to be saved before we too suffer from our own actions.
Interesting point! Why take the trip at all, and not just donate 75,000 dollars directly into each conservancy? They might send you a nice souvenir in return, in the form of a fridge magnet, a woven basket or something else that also foments the local arts and crafts
Life need the dead to thrive and this hunters help in this when a great elefhant is hunting the other young and strong elefhant Will replace his position and the circle of life keep going
@@antoniobarbierineto9999 And why has this ¨circle of life¨ worked for millions of years before human intervention then? Where is your justification that suddenly human hunters need to step in?
@@leonardowynnwidodo9704 trophy hunting brings in a lot of money economically, this I then spent on better infrastructure, business development and anti poaching organisations, this is a massive benefit for African countries. Botswana gives out 5 permits a year to trophy hunt their elephants. Botswana now has more elephants than its ecosystem can handle, because trophy hunting has helped get rid of poachers to the point elephant numbers have increased. Sustainable hunting is a thing and can be very beneficial for the surrounding communities. My last point is that the meat gets distributed between the local communities, that helps to lift the burden of poaching on local wildlife, as well as giving the locals a decent meal. You may not agree with hunting and that’s fair enough, but please learn the facts before trying to stop something that benefits others, just because it doesn’t benefit you.
Their arguments are ridiculous. You're conserving these animals for future humans to shoot at them. If you want to help the locals then just help them, don't act like they're not just a barrier between you and hunting for sport.
The lady who said if conservation doesn't put food on the table it won't work is spot on. The breeding of animals to hunt is wrong, that's all about money. Doc was pretty balanced but the lobbyist in the EU and most commentators don't want to hear anything from the hunters. The hunters in the meeting were shut down. Europeans stop telling Africans how to live their lives and run their countries. Good job DW.
Adam Cruise is a shallow man he says trophy hunting should not continue, but does he or people like him realize that without this industry wild animals stand no chance, there is no way they will ever make it, and what will left is just an imprint of these animals
@@effscottfitz-gee2024 I guess you are so unused to people commenting positively and appreciating other's work, that you think anyone being appreciative on social media is a bot
@@Knightmare919 I understand. But I have to say that's twisted. I think the huntards built this system in order to not get blamed for killing endangered species.
Hunting is cowardly... You are the one crying and who is so broken that you get sad if you don't bully and harm innocent sentient beings who are likely only about as intelligent as children... Pathetic of you... Fix yourself... ;-)
They are both deplorable when you could just eat something else... Since when you could just do something else they are both just done for pleasure and not need... ;-)
24:45 The translation is not very accurate: „If one rhino covers the cost for the ‘Schutztruppe‘, then i think it is totally fine.“ “Schutztruppe“ ist the name oft the german colonial army. Interesting that the guy who looks like a german settler, also talkes like one.
Trophy hunting is a vile practice that caters to a perverse sense of pride and entitlement, and anyone defending it with feeble excuses is complicit in its cruelty. Claims that trophy hunting supports conservation or local communities are nothing more than a pathetic attempt to sanitize the reality of a sport that thrives on killing animals for sport. The truth is, it's an egotistical pursuit that prioritizes human vanity over the well-being of sentient creatures and the health of ecosystems. Defenders of trophy hunting who hide behind the façade of "wildlife management" or "economic benefits" are either deeply misguided or morally bankrupt. Their justifications crumble under scrutiny, as they fail to address the fundamental issue: that the killing of majestic animals for trophies is inherently unethical and destructive. The supposed benefits of such hunting are grossly exaggerated, and the damage done to wildlife populations and habitats far outweighs any alleged financial gain. In reality, these defenders are perpetuating a cycle of exploitation and disrespect. They are clinging to a twisted notion that devalues animals to mere playthings and perpetuates a culture of cruelty. It's time to call out this barbaric practice for what it is and reject the weak excuses offered by those who seek to justify their callous actions. Trophy hunting is an affront to decency and conservation efforts, and it deserves nothing but condemnation. "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Every living being has a right to live in peace." - *Mahatma Gandhi* @DWDocumentary
Hurting animals for sport is sick and heart breaking it’s no wonder why we have so many animals going extinct theses days it’s because of people like this going out and killing animals for what hobby well this hobby or sport needs to be banned so animals can stop going extinct.
[For] short period of time it can be good for conservation because those rich will use their money and influence to (indirectly) support conservation. But in the long run this permit can be problematic. Not to mention about ethics. [Edit]
The segment with Adam Cruise, they were filming completely different people than the ones filmed with the hunters. The people benefiting are the actual natives, the Saan/bushmen. The people he filmed were all completely different, not natives, and it didn't seem like they were living "wild". So I call BS on that segment. Where was it even filmed? Give us the locations and context. "Where animals are declining, trophy hunting must not take place" Seems a plain and truthful statement, but that is exactly opposite. Where hunting is legal and correctly managed, wildlife populations INCREASE. Where it's illegal, wildlife disappears, because the locals poach for meat, other poachers for big-money tusks and rhino horns (Chinese market) come in, and locals with livestock drive the wildlife out, leading to monoculture and desertification.
Dear ancestors 400 years and they are still bringing there printed dollar bills and taking the lives of our wildlife. you have to be from a different planet to see beauty in a dried up corpse 😢😢
Other people have no business dictating whether someone can shoot a roe deer, an impala, or a lion. If the hunting is ethical and sustainable - the animal didn't suffer and the population benefited - then no one else with their "feelings" have the right to say what's okay to hunt and what isn't, even if they're in the majority. If you allow this, any one thing part of YOUR life can be similarly banned because some people half a world away "don't like it".
How are they part of the solution when they're hunting Lions and Elephants? Hunting for food is something i encourage, especially if it's seasonal or that particular animal is invasive or just a problem for farmers, however hunting for sport is a cruel practice, that should be illegal.
You were generous, I barely consider them as human. They have no feelings, they have no empathy, they have no compassion, they only appear human but they are not.
You were generous, I barely consider them as human. They have no feelings, they have no empathy, they have no compassion, they only appear human but they are not. They are abject, cowardly and demonic beings.
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Any hunter or person who is involved in big game hunting is doing 100 times more for the environment on a daily basis than any of the loud mouths sitting on the sidelines judging ignorantly.
not everyplace is the same but to look at some areas that arent going well and make it a reason to stop trophy hunting wouldnt be smart. trophy hunting is a big part to communities and states so the banning of it would be detrimental. i understand it isnt perfect but in general i think it could be said that it isnt bad either. right now it isnt the cause of dropping populations so i dont see the big problem. (breeding lions and things like that for hunting is messed up tho because it isnt conservation if they are in cages and it feels unethical). feel free to tell me otherwise
Indeed, if they were so concerned about the baobabs they wouldn't have any elephants on that area. They just need excuses like these to shoot another animal
@@JP-rs1md Yeah because of anthropogenic causes... Idk I don't think humans should be punishing elephants for trying to survive in conditions we've caused ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think it's a really weak excuse lol
Not a bad documentary, but again I need to criticise the angle. Is this framing of the debate between conservationists and hunters, with policy makers in the middle really what is going to break us out of this stagnation? At 40:10 we hear a racialised woman speaking of what she and her continent or origin have inherited after centuries of colonialization, and she hits the nail on the head. I would much rather watch hours of footage with her and other people of colour demanding social justice from the global North. How true does she speak when she says they do all they can with what they have, knowing that once again they have to sell their heritage of elephants, wildebeest and lions to the same countries that demanded labour power and valuable minerals from them before.
I believe that as a hunter, I am first and foremost a conservationist. I take a page out of the indigenous peoples' books: using as much of the meat as I possibly can.
Trophy hunting made the survival of Markhors in Pakistan. They earn revenue and helps other animals survive. But lots of corrupt practices are there involved in trophy hunting
@@Quanic2000 It’s other context,here we’re talking about controlated hunt,I don’t like this too,but we can’t ignore the facts.I said that after the animal’s death,don’t make diference to the nature what they do with the “trophy”.It’s a number’s question,not emotion.
As a South African, I would like to thank all Americans and Europeens for choosing South Africa as a hunting destination. You stimulate our economy and contrubite to the industry. Hunting is conservation. Final comment, conservation as some people want, creates luxury game reserves that 99.99% cannot afford in anny case. I doubt that 90% of South Africans have ever seen an elephant in the wild. Who does that cocervation benefit?
Because so many people (in and out South Africa) can afford to spend thousands of dollars on shooting an animal? Is the only way to get close to another animal, which lives in your backyard, to shoot it with a gun? If the South African government cared about their people seeing wild elephants that much, they would organise school trips from the Cape to Kwazulu-Natal to bring people to Kruger NP. They would respect the animals as part of their heritage to protect and they would think of a myriad of other ways to live alongside them in harmony.
No it should not do you know what happens when you ban most conservation efforts rely on troohy hunting for their more like a chuge chunk of their budget if you ban it this could happen please stop following your heart it is deceitful follow you brain for a moment. 1. Funding Loss: Many conservation programs rely on revenue from trophy hunting. A ban could lead to significant funding shortfalls for anti-poaching efforts and habitat preservation. 2. Wildlife Management: In some areas, trophy hunting can help manage animal populations. A sudden ban might lead to overpopulation of certain species, resulting in habitat degradation and increased human-wildlife conflict. 3. Economic Impact: Communities that benefit economically from trophy hunting (through jobs, tourism, and infrastructure) might suffer financially, leading to increased poaching as local livelihoods are threatened. 4. Conservation Incentives: Trophy hunting can provide incentives for landowners to maintain wildlife habitats. A ban could reduce these incentives, potentially leading to habitat loss. 5. Ecological Imbalance: Removing a regulated hunting practice may disrupt carefully managed ecosystems, possibly leading to unforeseen ecological consequences. 6. Shift to Illegal Hunting: If trophy hunting is banned without viable alternatives, it might lead to an increase in illegal poaching as people seek income from wildlife. While a ban on trophy hunting could have negative impacts, the extent of damage would depend on how conservation strategies are adapted in response to the change. 1. Funding Loss: Many conservation programs rely on revenue from trophy hunting. A ban could lead to significant funding shortfalls for anti-poaching efforts and habitat preservation. 2. Wildlife Management: In some areas, trophy hunting can help manage animal populations. A sudden ban might lead to overpopulation of certain species, resulting in habitat degradation and increased human-wildlife conflict. 3. Economic Impact: Communities that benefit economically from trophy hunting (through jobs, tourism, and infrastructure) might suffer financially, leading to increased poaching as local livelihoods are threatened. 4. Conservation Incentives: Trophy hunting can provide incentives for landowners to maintain wildlife habitats. A ban could reduce these incentives, potentially leading to habitat loss. 5. Ecological Imbalance: Removing a regulated hunting practice may disrupt carefully managed ecosystems, possibly leading to unforeseen ecological consequences. 6. Shift to Illegal Hunting: If trophy hunting is banned without viable alternatives, it might lead to an increase in illegal poaching as people seek income from wildlife.
I love the documentary but I’m surprised you didn’t include stories like that of the black wildebeest or the scimitar ibex animals at the heart of this issue
Excellent documentary from DW. Wildlife existed perfectly well until trophy hunters came along to kill animals and hang heads to show off to their friends.
Adam Cruise's conclusion is astounding. "Let's have trophy hunting banned and MAYBE later we will find a better way of fostering for wildlife." And what happens during the time-lapse? You want to cancel a working solution and have nothing yet to replace it? This type of interviews remind me of "What have the Roman's ever done for you?". Or more recently to the Welsch farmer "What has the EU ever done for you?".
Well, it's just like saying that you graduated from high school and college and you got a diploma. Then I would say that it is extremely stupid to hang your diploma on the wall, because it is a piece of useless paper!! Would that be deplorable to you or not? It is a work of art to hunters. Besides, studies have shown that hunters, like me, are very great conservationists. As a matter of fact, we sometimes are the only people that are willing to give money for restoration of habitat and wildlife. Now does that mean that poaching is legal? Of course not! Even though it is sad that there are a lot of people poaching(which is probably the word that you're looking for instead of trophy hunting), hunters, anglers and conservationists funding usually helps with local wildlife divisions to help remove poaching and learn more on helping wildlife be more happy, healthy and huntable! By the way, if you are willing to study why trophy hunting is different from poaching, I'll tell you. Trophy hunting is considered hunting for old, mature animals that have seen and lived a good, long and happy life. If we don't get rid of these old animals, there could be a numerous amount of diseases that could hurt the animals more than people think, which results to mass death in the animal kingdom. Hense why the saying "New ones die, old ones go" exists. This is, in a nutshell, why hunting in general helps with conservation! P.S. If you're wondering how I have this much information, I studied a lot about wildlife/fisheries biology for 6 years, general information like books, talking to wildlife agents and..... just pure common sense!
Those pictures at 4 minutes in are almost all the most extreme, disgusting photos they could find. Normal trophy photos look like the one with the leopard, oryx and crocodile. I have seen a couple disrespectful photos over the years, but they are almost always dug up by anti-hunting activists, from some far corner of the internet. The people in those photos are disgusting, disrespectful and don't represent hunting as a whole, not even remotely. I am not a hunter, but will get my license when I return to Sweden. I have no interest in ever hunting in Africa (if I could afford it), but I support what they do because 99% of the time, they are respectful true hunters who love nature and animals, and it's needed for wildlife in Africa to survive until the 22nd century.
I hope everyone here complaining is vegan and doesn't engage with all the parts of society that harm animals then. You don't get to tell other countries what they can do with their wildlife. You know what is controlled? Licensed game hunting. You know what isn't controlled? Poaching.
If they are obsessed with hunting Why not they hunt the invasive species of australia and usa? Wild boars in usa, foxes and feral cats in australia, invasive deers ,apes and boars in hawaii , new zealand and Mauritius....and in australia too Why not hunt them that will help the natives? Because they are not majestic as elephants, rhinos, lions and other mega fauna 😊?
HI so hunting boars in Texas is harder then you think because people actually charge you for your help lots of people do they take advantage of people who try to help clear out invasive species on their land so that's why they don't do it alot
Trophy hunting can increase the population of a species if the money generated is spent on developing local communities. In the northern areas of Pakistan, due to the efficient use of trophy hunting funds, the markhor population increased from about 700 in 2004 to more than 5,000 in 2023. People from villages in these areas are also helping the government combat illegal hunting.
BMX riding has been stopped, MX riding has been stopped, 4x4 driving has been stopped, EVERYTHING is being stopped. Now hunting too. If you grew up in Africa, hunting is in your blood, it's part of every culture. EVERY CULTURE, not just wealthy tourists. We eat wild game as a treat, not a staple diet. Poorer people hunt for the pot to stave off starvation, something Brussels obviously knows nothing about!! Come and live in Africa, experience Africa, live Africa, learn Africa. You'll go away a wiser activist. As for the trophies, each man to his own...
Hunters and exotic pet owners/breeders are among the most demonized by animal "rights" activists, but actually the ones doing the most for conservation, along with zoos and field researchers.
Cant they provide the local villagers goats and other livestock for meat and create multiple ponds for water supply and growing feeds for the livestocks? Isnt that a solution?
I think I’ve heard of something like this before on an episode of Captain Planet & The Planeters “Canned Hunt”. Something about a real Big Game Hunt Hunter named Trevor who doesn’t tolerate with Canned Hunting & Poachers. At least I think that’s how it went on that episode. At least Trevor helped out Captain Planet & The Planeters to stop this hunting plot of Hoggish Greedly.
If you ban trophy hunting how will you pay for the people who works at wildlife conservation believe or not trophy hunting provides a large revenue for wildlife conservation because why would the locals care about wildlife animals who may ruin their livelihood yo have in someway give incentives.
The loss of trophy hunting thos our the impacts 1. Funding Loss: Many conservation programs rely on revenue from trophy hunting. A ban could lead to significant funding shortfalls for anti-poaching efforts and habitat preservation. 2. Wildlife Management: In some areas, trophy hunting can help manage animal populations. A sudden ban might lead to overpopulation of certain species, resulting in habitat degradation and increased human-wildlife conflict. 3. Economic Impact: Communities that benefit economically from trophy hunting (through jobs, tourism, and infrastructure) might suffer financially, leading to increased poaching as local livelihoods are threatened. 4. Conservation Incentives: Trophy hunting can provide incentives for landowners to maintain wildlife habitats. A ban could reduce these incentives, potentially leading to habitat loss. 5. Ecological Imbalance: Removing a regulated hunting practice may disrupt carefully managed ecosystems, possibly leading to unforeseen ecological consequences. 6. Shift to Illegal Hunting: If trophy hunting is banned without viable alternatives, it might lead to an increase in illegal poaching as people seek income from wildlife.
You know it's crazy that Africa has some of the most dedicated and successful wildlife conservation efforts in the world, botswana especially, yet Europeans love to criticize and pearl clutch at there methods. Africa are the global experts at conservation of african wildlife, not europeans
Hunting Big cats , Elephants, Rhinoceros or Hippo is utterly shameful most people dont eat those animals Alot of those animals are low in numbers its stupid. On the other hand hunting Deer, antelope ,impala etc ihave no problem with its better meat than the grocery stores.
If the trophy hunting is conducted on a licenced hunting farm, the animals are farmed like a pic or a cow in Europe. With the only difference that the animals from a game farm had a nice life in nature . There is no difference between wearing a pair of leather schooes or hanging a Zebra skin on the wall. This kind of industry is providing a living to a lot of people in those areas.
As a baby taken away from your mother and the pride to be used as a pet, used as breeding machine, sold on the internet for getting shot, bones sold to the asian market. Is that what you call a nice life, you hypocrite.
@@lollol2172... He never said they were and they wouldn't need to be in order for his comment to hold true... Also some animals are humans since humans are an animal species... ;-)
A $350,000 hunt for a critically endangered black rhino in Namibia. An outfitter advertised its “Trump Special” - a $25,000 hunt for a buffalo, sable, roan and crocodile. Advertised as a “bargain” was a captive-bred lion hunt for $8,000 in South Africa. A $6,000 hunt for any six animals that a customer can choose to kill in South Africa. The offerings were: zebras, wildebeest, warthogs, impalas, hartebeest, gemsbok, nyala and waterbuck. A polar bear hunt in Canada was offered for sale for $35,000. An Asiatic black bear hunt in Russia sold for $15,000. A 15-day Alaska hunt to kill a brown bear, black bear, mountain goat and wolf was sold for $25,000.
Under an international convention, Namibia may allow five male rhinos to be killed per year. The meat is distributed to the local people and the payment helps fund conservation programs. The black rhino hunted was twenty-nine years old and was interfering with breeding by younger males. - So a male that was no longer breeding was stopping males who could be increasing population from doing that. Hunt in south africa for any 6 - all of which are not endangered. So managed hunting. Cool. You do realize that you're paying for the opportunity to hunt not a guaranteed kill right?
Your point? As this video indicated as part of a critique to the argument that the money the ¨client¨ pays does not end up benefitting the people in those areas that need it the most. If only a handful of dollars end up with the locals, I don't call that a success story of sustainability
@@susllim Okay, got it. Just wanted to make sure. I think another point that could be taken from these numbers is how a pastime like this is not accessible to the larger masses of tourists who want to experience African wildlife. It's a hobby for rich people and that by definition should raise questions about its ethics. Not to mention that many practices created for the rich are not exactly sustainable financially nor ecologically.
Hunting has saved animals from poachers in places like south africa and the population of threaten species has gone up. The local poachers get more money from the hunter then from poaching. And the locals try to save the animals for the specific hunts. So if done right it is a win for the animals. And the word trophy... If I garden and try to raise biggest crops am I a trophy gardener? If raising beef am I a trophy farmer? if so is that bad? If I am hunting and try to get biggest deer or elk ..... am I a trophy hunter? Should I get smaller deer or elk? Should I pick small crops? Should I raise small cows? Maybe I should just get my meat from the local animal assassinating grocery store? Wait if I buy the large chunks of meat there am I a trophy meat buyer?
"You cannot run this CONservancy without trophy animals on this CONservancy it gives a purpose to the animals. If there is no purpose to the animals, the animals is not going to survive at the end of the day." Stephen Jacobs He clearly not aware of the inherent, intrinsic vale of animals irrespective of the value they may or may not bring. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
“Yeah it’s fairly cheap” translate the Euro amount to the Tanzanian Shilling and see how much that is. Or even the US Dollar. I can also guarantee that they’re showing the lowest price.
They are also putting this issues into the formula, considering our growing population. More people means more space and more mouths to feed, and also more tensions between us and the natural environment. Which is why we need to handle this ethically if no one wants another casualty on their side
I am a hunter. But I only hunt for food, and I have never targeted or killed an endangered species. I personally don't like trophy hunting. I can understand culling to help sustain a population at a stable level, but if you're not going to eat it, don't kill it
Thank you brother for being understanding and being ethical about hunting
They never said anything about not eating the meat.
@@effscottfitz-gee2024 He knows his talking about himself specifically
@@ultroy-motorslimitedlnc Ethical? Are you crazy? Tell me what is ethical about murdering animals for selfish taste pleasure. Just another excuse for eating dead animal flesh.
You don't have to kill for survival. Not unless you're an indigenous man living in a place with zero edible crops. This circumtance doesn't apply to the majority of people.
Trophy hunters killed the largest lions in Africa back in 1930s. This affects the establishment of a diversified species. Trophy hunters belong in jails or worse.
The 1930's...before we had modern hunting laws...it's 100% different now
@@powerhouseexotics sure but little too late. I come from the Savannahs so believe me when I say the lions were larger back in the days.
I have a question: if the fundamental problem is finding money to fund conservation instead of relying on trophy hunting, why do we not explore the idea of conservation carbon credit trading more?
Because the idea of "carbon neutrality" or "conservation neutrality" is a lie.
You can't emit 10,000 tons of carbon and then buy "offsets" to be "neutral" Those 10,000 tons. The goal shouldn't be carbon neutrality but carbon negative or carbon zero.
I emit 10,000 tons of carbon, then I buy offsets that state that 10,000 tons worth of carbon absorption of trees will be planted. Do they get planted right away? No. Do they absorb 10,000 tons worth of carbon right away? No. Is there a strong possibility that those trees being planted are actually for a forestry company to cut down when mature? Yes.
I emitted 10,000 tons of carbon in 1 year with my business, but it's totally cool because the trees I paid to have planted will absorb that over 100 years. So every year I emit 10,000 tons and then in that 1 year (possible but unlikely) the trees planted absorb 100 tons of carbon.
1 year : +10,000 tons / -100 tons
2 years +20,000 tons / - 300 tons
3 years +30,000 tons / - 600 tons
4 years +40,000 tons / - 1000 tons.
So now I'm carbon neutral but in 4 years I have emitted 40,000 tons of carbon into the atmosphere but my offsets have only absorbed 1000 tons. Not very neutral.
The same thing would happen with "conservancy credits" You would pay someone to "conserve" the wildlife and that might include culling the wildlife. But it would probably get called "herd health management" or "active population management" so that everyone feels good and no one asks what exactly that means.
What would that entail? Western companies donating/investing in conservation projects so they gain carbon credits with which they are allowed to contaminate more?
I would be surprised if that wasn't already happening, although not quite in the scale you're thinking of. Many multinational companies will boast about planting trees just to greenwash their massive exploitative profits. But the reality is that most of these projects are insignificant because the follow-up is shorter than two years and trees reaching adulthood is not guaranteed.
But hey, it looks good on the audit and on the website! Nobody is going to go deep into the Amazon or Canada to check whether those trees are still alive.
I completely understand the need for conservation. What I don't understand is how the "hunters" get any satisfaction from someone basically walking them up to their "prey." It's not hunting, it's an ego check.
EXACTLY. It's ALL ego and nothing else
The best way to conserve wildlife is to give it value. A quote,"if we can't make money off our animals, we'll eat them"
Well here's a question that I'll ask these trophy hunters, if they're so concerned with conservation and if they really do want to hunt animals for the challenge.... Why not go to Texas and help them hunt their feral pigs? Or why not go to a place where it's unequivocably a good thing to hunt whatever animal?
It's because it's not about conservation, it's like what's said in the video. Status. Or pride or a misguided belief that killing the animal makes them more masculine.
All the other answers just seem to be a bunch of post-colonialist louts trying to justify why they are entitled to murder an elephant or a rhino.
I have never seen any anti hunter donate as much money as hunters to communities dying of hunger...
@@bekkerbosbeer3453 Well that makes me think that you just haven't seen much in your life...
@@Fledermausmann I’m positive it’s you who hasn’t seen enough. Hunters know more about the animals they hunt than people like you and me. They have strict rules to minimize the suffering when they take the shot. A lot of the animals meats are donated to the communities they’re around as well. Besides, regardless of how much the hunters actually care about conservation, it’s just a fact that it helps to conserve the wildlife. They keep the value of these animals high enough for the countries to prevent poaching.
@@FledermausmannI bet you didn’t know that a lot of the money these hunters pay for the permits to hunt these animals goes to anti poaching organisations? That stops illegal poaching and allows sustainable hunting, not to mention that the meat goes to surrounding villages, that also goes a long way to helping those villagers give up poaching to feed their families. It always amazes how people feel sorry for the poor people in Africa and want to donate all this money to help them yet actively support the stuff that goes against helping them.
Exactly
It's always people in countries outside of Africa that try and dictate how African countries utilise their sustainable resources. International hunters bring in millions each year and that money goes towards local businesses, infrastructure, plumbing, education, healthcare and anti poaching. People always say that they need to ban hunting and also increase the number of anti poaching in underdeveloped African countries. Where do you expect the money for anti poaching to come from? Also, the meat that's harvested goes to local villagers who would poach to get meat, don't need to as they get meat from hunter. That gives them a reason to NOT poach using snares and traps. Hunting saves so many animals and gives back to countries. Many people have been killed due to poaching as the snares have killed off predators natural prey which then in turn, prey on people. It's a win win for everyone.
I see no one has replied to your comment, because it’s full of facts and truths most people can’t handle. I believe in Botswana they give out 5 permits a year for people to go elephant hunting. They have the best population of elephants in Africa (more than the ecosystem can actually handle now) all because these people who hunt help the country in all the ways you just explained. I wish more people could realise this and put their feelings behind logic for once.
@@spencersanderson1894the country's in Africa do and can control who comes in it becusse of the money, even if there is an endangered species there guess what it's already paid for and taken care of by the hunter, poaching still happens for the trophy hunting,the medicinal practices in China and bush meat like with most of africas primates. People inside the country very do control it. It happens all the time down in the lower regions like South Africa,samolia, Madagascar and more. Especially when the government funds reserves for the hunters to purchase an animal and buy said animal or sign forms for hunters to take care of pesky ones like a male giraffe killing small baby giraffes for females to go into heat faster or a lion just killing females or a female lion killing males. It's not people from other countries at the end of the day it's all the 30 + countries that have a say in it. Ignorants.
@@pedronycum6765 sorry are you for or against trophy hunting? I’m all for it if it’s sustainable and helps local communities because of the benefits it can provide. Although it can do very good things I believe there are people out there who exploit it for their own greed and profit but, on the whole trophy hunting (if done right) has far more benefits than negatives.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear in the first comment.
@@spencersanderson1894 I am for trophy hunting when it benefits the ecosystem and me. Otherwise it's a one sided relationship, I love animals, grew up on wild Kratts and that one girls show where she had a whole house of animals and dr do little, but animals don't comprehend when they negatively affect an ecosystem just look at brazills hippos. Absolute menaces to a world that can't defend itself from them.
@@pedronycum6765 Fair play, then we are on the same side! I agree with you, there are people that don’t do it fairly or sustainably and that’s wrong. and yes there are also animals that are too much for an ecosystem, as well as the point you just made about the hippos, I made a point about the Elephants in Botswana, they have got to a population size that is too much for the ecosystem in Botswana to handle, so they need to be controlled before they cause too much damage to the environment and to humans.
How much money did these people who condemn trophy hunting contribute towards the conservation of these animals? The majority of these animals roam on private land with no government funding. Wildlife fences cost money, labor costs money, feed in the dry seasons costs money, hiring rangers cost money, treating sick animals costs money. If there's no incentive to manage wildlife for private land owners then the spaces these animals roam will be converted into agricultural land or urban developments. If you want to get rid of trophy hunting then start paying up. Simple as that
Your absolutely right, people seem to temporarily forget money makes the world go around when it comes to hunting.im not a hunter but I have always been a fisherman and have killed and eaten lots of fish. I've always said hunters should have to use a spear or bow and arrow for trophies.ive eaten plenty of deer meat that someone else shot without a problem.no matter what people say or do hunting will continue,I believe trophie hunting should be outlawed,ive seen rooms full of a hundred animal mounts alll shot by one super rich old man,ann just think how many thousands of animals he killed to get the best one for the walls.taxidermy is a legitimate proffession that employs people worldwide.theres no solution to hunting because it will continue as long as people have money to waste.
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You seem to forget about the millions of people visiting African countries for the other kind of wildlife tourism, where you ¨shoot¨ an animal with your camera or phone. They might not pay as high a price per individual guest as hunters pay per dead animal, but the infrastructure required to maintain it is larger and more intricate, because they are more people: that sounds like a better way to sustain job availability in the region for locals.
@@NewAge374 true but why cant you have both? Aren’t two avenues of revenue towards conservation better than just one? And like you said a hunter is bringing way more $.
@@NewAge374 As mentioned most of the wildlife roam on private land. Tourists wants to get wined and dined and therefore they only go to bigger established reserves. They don't go to the random guy's place and sleep in a tent. I'm from South Africa and I can assure you that what you are suggesting isn't feasible across the board. It's easy to talk if you're not the one who has to implement it
It is the duty of every human being to protect and to have compassion for fellow beings.
As a lifelong Greenpeace supporter /activist I find trophy hunting abhorrent. However I thank DW for this balanced and informative documentary, as the last person said we need to understand and listen to both sides,surely mankind can come to a funding solution,I'm sure the people who currently run the hunting reserves would be open to continue there work of conservation if alternative revenue streems could be given them,this way they could be part of the solution going forward.A consensus must be reached. Vilification iss not th answer.Thanks DW again for excellent content
Not in any way trying to cause a row, but as a fellow activist you might relate to the experience of how hard it is for the two sides of an argument to come together.
How would you do it if you stood in their shoes? Can you look someone in the eye who hunts animals for sport and gives you shit arguments about how it helps conservation, the local economy, and how they reduce the suffering by trying not to miss the first shot?
Is it possible to have a discussion when you're starting from different philosophies? You might believe that nature is not there for humans to exploit or use at all, while they are scrambling to put some neo-colonial logic to their fancies.
Are we allowed to show our emotions to be able to reach consensus, should we try to convince each other with pure ratio? I honestly don't know how to do it, but I'm willing to learn and take every piece of advice
I don’t even understand why is conversation of species so important? Isn’t it better if a species goes extinct naturally or survives without human intervention?
@@Barry-p8u most species going extinct in this Anthropocene age are doing so due to human pressures on environment etc.Not naturally!
@@eno.5796 what are u trying to say exactly. Coz I am saying the same thing- if they become extinct naturally like dinosaurs did- let it be. But humans shouldn’t try to play God- they shouldn’t take away lives of animals
@Barry-p8u dinosaurs weren't hunted by man to extinction, but I was saying most creatures not just animals but insects fish even forna are being pushed to extinction by mankind.competition for resources and land and sea etc everywhere and not to forget polution and pesticides etc.very few species being kept viable that wouldn't be otherwise by man
One may not like hunting, I respect the opinion.However, in Africa in particular, those countries that have banned hunting ,have seen their wildlife population decline massively:Kenya is a very good example.The African countries with the most wildwife are the ones that are funded with hunting dollars, this is a Fact.And for info, wildlife get killed and wounded in tens of thousands by poachers in countries where hunting is banned
Lies
@@intelysisconsultants8253are you sure, show your sources? Go on the cites website for data, 50 years plus of Kenya hunting ban has not yielded its promise. Grevy's zebra is the sad illustration of it. No wildlife in mangetout and rose plantations...
I am a Kenyan and I can tell you that you are either misinformed or ignorant. The Kenya Wildlife Service is a good example of the government developing a task force to protect animals that actually works. Sure animal numbers are declining throughout Africa including Kenya, but I can tell you that we are doing better at conservation than most other African countries. Hunting is just a profitable business venture for greedy men and they will fight to keep it alive. This is a question of morality...not conservation as there are other ways that work other than hunting.
Do your facts have a source? If so, please include a link to the research paper to support your claims.
Trophy hunters more for conservation and preservation of habitat than talk from the couch or comments on social media.
By adding a financial value to the wildlife, there is an incentive to preserve and conserve them in an otherwise poor country. Alternatively, wildlife are considered a cheap source of meat or competition for livestock
I’m not sure why you’d want to shoot a giraffe. they’re just there minding their own business, and not even close to over populated either.
Not overpopulated but there can be too many bulls in a region which isn't good for a population
Very shameful to some African countries allowing this terrible service western countries shouldn't tell how Africans how to control their solutions such as this trophy hunting isn't fun.
I'm thankful trophy hunting is illegal in Kenya (my country) wildlife conservation is taken very seriously despite the challenges in many wild areas in Kenya taken so seriously to the point some communities gave their lands for wildlife to roam freely and live alongside them
Kenya is home to the Grevy's zebra. It is the largest zebra in Africa and the only zebra on CITES appendix 1, endangered. Strange result for the super "conservationist" country... a sad running joke...
...and it is white men and western lobbies who pushed and control Kenya's anti hunting stance...
You dont see how the value of the animal will incentivize your country to preserve the wildlife? It’s not like it’s some made up theory.
I hate to say it, but by making farming of such animals for hunting illegal, your government is giving poachers more reasons to want to poach these animals, for them the more likely the species is to go extinct, the more valuable to the poachers they become, with trophy hunting farming, along with farming rhinks for horns that can be cut and regrown over and over again, the animals are protected from poachers, money is made that can be used by the community for improvement, and for proper land management.
Bahaha
I’ve never understood how people can hunt animals for trophies and have them stuffed and hung on walls. It’s deplorable.
I can understand hunting the animals for food or overpopulation but not this kind of stuff.
If it’s local hunting, such as local whaling in Indonesia, that I understand because it’s part of the people’s livelihood, but this is nothing short of human greed and pride
You dont have to understand
Because after eating it I had a bear rug made! 😊
You don't understand Africa and the African attitude towards flora and fauna.. I guess chicken, cows, sheep, and pigs, will never go extinct because we eat them or find a used for them.. hmmmm..
Trophy Hunting is wrong.. but if a business model are made to preserve flora and fauna as that of Hunting ranges..( so be it )..hmmmm..
Maybe one day we could protect animals without the reason of exploiting it as wealth motivation.
Between 2014 and 2018, the U.S. imported 2,169 lion trophies, or more
than 433 trophies on average per year (Table 14). All lion trophies
imported into the U.S. during this period originated in Africa. The vast
majority (86%) originated in South Africa, followed by Zimbabwe (6%),
Tanzania (5%), Mozambique (1%), Namibia (1%) and Zambia (1%) (Table
14). Of the 2,169 lion trophies imported, 1,165 (54%) were from lions
bred in captivity with almost 100% of those originating in South Africa
It's called farming
@@bekkerbosbeer3453 Sick!
Thank you for supporting the industry, Americans.
This is horrible
For people who don't get it most African countries who do wildlife conservation relies heavily in funding from trophy hunting someone has to pay all of their activities.
You want to earn a trophy? Do something that’s really meaningful, cause this is meaningless. So what if you have all these trophies? When you die, you won’t bring them with you into the afterlife. But if you put in the effort to preserve them, that’s the true trophy.
On another note, as an aspiring conservationist, watching this really sickens me because nature is beautiful. Why destroy it for our own greed? It needs to be saved before we too suffer from our own actions.
Interesting point! Why take the trip at all, and not just donate 75,000 dollars directly into each conservancy? They might send you a nice souvenir in return, in the form of a fridge magnet, a woven basket or something else that also foments the local arts and crafts
Life need the dead to thrive and this hunters help in this when a great elefhant is hunting the other young and strong elefhant Will replace his position and the circle of life keep going
@@antoniobarbierineto9999 touche. But I still stand by my statement
@@antoniobarbierineto9999 And why has this ¨circle of life¨ worked for millions of years before human intervention then?
Where is your justification that suddenly human hunters need to step in?
@@leonardowynnwidodo9704 trophy hunting brings in a lot of money economically, this I then spent on better infrastructure, business development and anti poaching organisations, this is a massive benefit for African countries. Botswana gives out 5 permits a year to trophy hunt their elephants. Botswana now has more elephants than its ecosystem can handle, because trophy hunting has helped get rid of poachers to the point elephant numbers have increased. Sustainable hunting is a thing and can be very beneficial for the surrounding communities. My last point is that the meat gets distributed between the local communities, that helps to lift the burden of poaching on local wildlife, as well as giving the locals a decent meal.
You may not agree with hunting and that’s fair enough, but please learn the facts before trying to stop something that benefits others, just because it doesn’t benefit you.
Their arguments are ridiculous. You're conserving these animals for future humans to shoot at them. If you want to help the locals then just help them, don't act like they're not just a barrier between you and hunting for sport.
The lady who said if conservation doesn't put food on the table it won't work is spot on. The breeding of animals to hunt is wrong, that's all about money. Doc was pretty balanced but the lobbyist in the EU and most commentators don't want to hear anything from the hunters. The hunters in the meeting were shut down. Europeans stop telling Africans how to live their lives and run their countries. Good job DW.
My mom bought one kislux and she loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when she went out with it.
Adam Cruise is a shallow man he says trophy hunting should not continue, but does he or people like him realize that without this industry wild animals stand no chance, there is no way they will ever make it, and what will left is just an imprint of these animals
@@gangasinghrathore4709 look at Kenya doing it without trophy hunting...if you are so concerned about animals why not donate without the hunting part
Very well executed documentary
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Congratulations on your work, DW! You are educating people
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@@effscottfitz-gee2024 I guess you are so unused to people commenting positively and appreciating other's work, that you think anyone being appreciative on social media is a bot
I am fine with hunters especially if they eat the meat but I hate poachers.
Fun fact a huge chunk of conservation budget comes from trophy hunting.
@@Knightmare919 I understand. But I have to say that's twisted. I think the huntards built this system in order to not get blamed for killing endangered species.
I hunt for food and trophy and I do care when I hunt but if your mad or sad cause I do then cry about it cause I won’t stop
Hunting is cowardly... You are the one crying and who is so broken that you get sad if you don't bully and harm innocent sentient beings who are likely only about as intelligent as children... Pathetic of you... Fix yourself... ;-)
It's one thing to kill an animal for food and eat it. But to kill an animal for a trophy alone is deplorable and inhumane.
They are both deplorable when you could just eat something else... Since when you could just do something else they are both just done for pleasure and not need... ;-)
24:45 The translation is not very accurate: „If one rhino covers the cost for the ‘Schutztruppe‘, then i think it is totally fine.“
“Schutztruppe“ ist the name oft the german colonial army. Interesting that the guy who looks like a german settler, also talkes like one.
Trophy hunting is a vile practice that caters to a perverse sense of pride and entitlement, and anyone defending it with feeble excuses is complicit in its cruelty. Claims that trophy hunting supports conservation or local communities are nothing more than a pathetic attempt to sanitize the reality of a sport that thrives on killing animals for sport. The truth is, it's an egotistical pursuit that prioritizes human vanity over the well-being of sentient creatures and the health of ecosystems.
Defenders of trophy hunting who hide behind the façade of "wildlife management" or "economic benefits" are either deeply misguided or morally bankrupt. Their justifications crumble under scrutiny, as they fail to address the fundamental issue: that the killing of majestic animals for trophies is inherently unethical and destructive. The supposed benefits of such hunting are grossly exaggerated, and the damage done to wildlife populations and habitats far outweighs any alleged financial gain.
In reality, these defenders are perpetuating a cycle of exploitation and disrespect. They are clinging to a twisted notion that devalues animals to mere playthings and perpetuates a culture of cruelty. It's time to call out this barbaric practice for what it is and reject the weak excuses offered by those who seek to justify their callous actions. Trophy hunting is an affront to decency and conservation efforts, and it deserves nothing but condemnation.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Every living being has a right to live in peace."
- *Mahatma Gandhi*
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Hurting animals for sport is sick and heart breaking it’s no wonder why we have so many animals going extinct theses days it’s because of people like this going out and killing animals for what hobby well this hobby or sport needs to be banned so animals can stop going extinct.
[For] short period of time it can be good for conservation because those rich will use their money and influence to (indirectly) support conservation.
But in the long run this permit can be problematic.
Not to mention about ethics.
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Killing animals for sport is evil - point blank!!!
The segment with Adam Cruise, they were filming completely different people than the ones filmed with the hunters. The people benefiting are the actual natives, the Saan/bushmen. The people he filmed were all completely different, not natives, and it didn't seem like they were living "wild". So I call BS on that segment. Where was it even filmed? Give us the locations and context.
"Where animals are declining, trophy hunting must not take place" Seems a plain and truthful statement, but that is exactly opposite. Where hunting is legal and correctly managed, wildlife populations INCREASE. Where it's illegal, wildlife disappears, because the locals poach for meat, other poachers for big-money tusks and rhino horns (Chinese market) come in, and locals with livestock drive the wildlife out, leading to monoculture and desertification.
You are completely wrong
Trophy Hunting can't be conservation if the money can't go to local communities and conservation.
Dear ancestors
400 years and they are still bringing there printed dollar bills and taking the lives of our wildlife. you have to be from a different planet to see beauty in a dried up corpse 😢😢
So stop them. Why let others do this to your land for 400 years?
Other people have no business dictating whether someone can shoot a roe deer, an impala, or a lion. If the hunting is ethical and sustainable - the animal didn't suffer and the population benefited - then no one else with their "feelings" have the right to say what's okay to hunt and what isn't, even if they're in the majority. If you allow this, any one thing part of YOUR life can be similarly banned because some people half a world away "don't like it".
The problem rather is the loss of wildlife habitat and the ever increasing number of humans
How are they part of the solution when they're hunting Lions and Elephants?
Hunting for food is something i encourage, especially if it's seasonal or that particular animal is invasive or just a problem for farmers, however hunting for sport is a cruel practice, that should be illegal.
Trophy hunters are the lowest division of human being I cuold think of.
Soo how much money time and effort have you put into big game conservation then???
You were generous, I barely consider them as human. They have no feelings, they have no empathy, they have no compassion, they only appear human but they are not.
You were generous, I barely consider them as human. They have no feelings, they have no empathy, they have no compassion, they only appear human but they are not. They are abject, cowardly and demonic beings.
So is people that believe in abortion
@rolf
Totally agree, those are usually the folks - in some cases sadistic - who can't get it up.
I love all my mounts. It's a great reminder of wonderful times afield. Those that don't understand are the problem, not hunters
I have one kislux bag I got in 2019, it's the LV white catogram speedy. It's counter quality and it has a nice honey patina now, so the leather is real. I think whatever makes you happy go for it. I've seen LV with plastic leather and blood red glaze...
Any hunter or person who is involved in big game hunting is doing 100 times more for the environment on a daily basis than any of the loud mouths sitting on the sidelines judging ignorantly.
not everyplace is the same but to look at some areas that arent going well and make it a reason to stop trophy hunting wouldnt be smart. trophy hunting is a big part to communities and states so the banning of it would be detrimental. i understand it isnt perfect but in general i think it could be said that it isnt bad either. right now it isnt the cause of dropping populations so i dont see the big problem. (breeding lions and things like that for hunting is messed up tho because it isnt conservation if they are in cages and it feels unethical). feel free to tell me otherwise
27:11 They’re concerned that elephants are eating **checks notes** their natural food source?🧍🏻♂️
Well too much munching on that specific tree and it will go extinct.
@@pabloandre8571 the Baobab tree is close to extinction. So yeah it's concerning
Indeed, if they were so concerned about the baobabs they wouldn't have any elephants on that area. They just need excuses like these to shoot another animal
@@NewAge374 okay please provide the area for these animals since it's so easy
@@JP-rs1md Yeah because of anthropogenic causes... Idk I don't think humans should be punishing elephants for trying to survive in conditions we've caused ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think it's a really weak excuse lol
Not a bad documentary, but again I need to criticise the angle. Is this framing of the debate between conservationists and hunters, with policy makers in the middle really what is going to break us out of this stagnation?
At 40:10 we hear a racialised woman speaking of what she and her continent or origin have inherited after centuries of colonialization, and she hits the nail on the head. I would much rather watch hours of footage with her and other people of colour demanding social justice from the global North.
How true does she speak when she says they do all they can with what they have, knowing that once again they have to sell their heritage of elephants, wildebeest and lions to the same countries that demanded labour power and valuable minerals from them before.
Little do these folks know all meat is donated to locals
I believe that as a hunter, I am first and foremost a conservationist. I take a page out of the indigenous peoples' books: using as much of the meat as I possibly can.
Trophy hunting made the survival of Markhors in Pakistan.
They earn revenue and helps other animals survive.
But lots of corrupt practices are there involved in trophy hunting
Interesting didn’t know this
If it's for "conservation" purposes, then why aren't their kills in museums, but in their private collections?
The guy payed a note to Make this,let him keep the trophy,don’t make diference to the nature.
@felipequadros6473 as the black rhinoceros or barbari lion if it doesn't make a difference 🤡
@@Quanic2000 It’s other context,here we’re talking about controlated hunt,I don’t like this too,but we can’t ignore the facts.I said that after the animal’s death,don’t make diference to the nature what they do with the “trophy”.It’s a number’s question,not emotion.
@@felipequadros6473 then "control hunt" wild hogs in Texas who aren't endangered animals.
"Numbers over emotion" 🤡
As a South African, I would like to thank all Americans and Europeens for choosing South Africa as a hunting destination.
You stimulate our economy and contrubite to the industry. Hunting is conservation.
Final comment, conservation as some people want, creates luxury game reserves that 99.99% cannot afford in anny case. I doubt that 90% of South Africans have ever seen an elephant in the wild. Who does that cocervation benefit?
Because so many people (in and out South Africa) can afford to spend thousands of dollars on shooting an animal? Is the only way to get close to another animal, which lives in your backyard, to shoot it with a gun?
If the South African government cared about their people seeing wild elephants that much, they would organise school trips from the Cape to Kwazulu-Natal to bring people to Kruger NP. They would respect the animals as part of their heritage to protect and they would think of a myriad of other ways to live alongside them in harmony.
Those people should imagine what if they were in the place of the animals being killed for a trophy
This should be stopped.
No it should not do you know what happens when you ban most conservation efforts rely on troohy hunting for their more like a chuge chunk of their budget if you ban it this could happen please stop following your heart it is deceitful follow you brain for a moment.
1. Funding Loss: Many conservation programs rely on revenue from trophy hunting. A ban could lead to significant funding shortfalls for anti-poaching efforts and habitat preservation.
2. Wildlife Management: In some areas, trophy hunting can help manage animal populations. A sudden ban might lead to overpopulation of certain species, resulting in habitat degradation and increased human-wildlife conflict.
3. Economic Impact: Communities that benefit economically from trophy hunting (through jobs, tourism, and infrastructure) might suffer financially, leading to increased poaching as local livelihoods are threatened.
4. Conservation Incentives: Trophy hunting can provide incentives for landowners to maintain wildlife habitats. A ban could reduce these incentives, potentially leading to habitat loss.
5. Ecological Imbalance: Removing a regulated hunting practice may disrupt carefully managed ecosystems, possibly leading to unforeseen ecological consequences.
6. Shift to Illegal Hunting: If trophy hunting is banned without viable alternatives, it might lead to an increase in illegal poaching as people seek income from wildlife.
While a ban on trophy hunting could have negative impacts, the extent of damage would depend on how conservation strategies are adapted in response to the change.
1. Funding Loss: Many conservation programs rely on revenue from trophy hunting. A ban could lead to significant funding shortfalls for anti-poaching efforts and habitat preservation.
2. Wildlife Management: In some areas, trophy hunting can help manage animal populations. A sudden ban might lead to overpopulation of certain species, resulting in habitat degradation and increased human-wildlife conflict.
3. Economic Impact: Communities that benefit economically from trophy hunting (through jobs, tourism, and infrastructure) might suffer financially, leading to increased poaching as local livelihoods are threatened.
4. Conservation Incentives: Trophy hunting can provide incentives for landowners to maintain wildlife habitats. A ban could reduce these incentives, potentially leading to habitat loss.
5. Ecological Imbalance: Removing a regulated hunting practice may disrupt carefully managed ecosystems, possibly leading to unforeseen ecological consequences.
6. Shift to Illegal Hunting: If trophy hunting is banned without viable alternatives, it might lead to an increase in illegal poaching as people seek income from wildlife.
I love the documentary but I’m surprised you didn’t include stories like that of the black wildebeest or the scimitar ibex animals at the heart of this issue
Excellent documentary from DW. Wildlife existed perfectly well until trophy hunters came along to kill animals and hang heads to show off to their friends.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts on the topic
Adam Cruise's conclusion is astounding. "Let's have trophy hunting banned and MAYBE later we will find a better way of fostering for wildlife." And what happens during the time-lapse? You want to cancel a working solution and have nothing yet to replace it? This type of interviews remind me of "What have the Roman's ever done for you?". Or more recently to the Welsch farmer "What has the EU ever done for you?".
Very simple Trophies is concervation at its best❤poaching is very very cruel hobby..
Yup!
Definitely cruel. Imagine people having to ask themselves this
Morally it’s wrong. But it contributes to the locals in some ways.
The truth starts at 19:25
They need to stop this sport for those with big wallets and small egos.
Well, it's just like saying that you graduated from high school and college and you got a diploma. Then I would say that it is extremely stupid to hang your diploma on the wall, because it is a piece of useless paper!! Would that be deplorable to you or not? It is a work of art to hunters. Besides, studies have shown that hunters, like me, are very great conservationists. As a matter of fact, we sometimes are the only people that are willing to give money for restoration of habitat and wildlife. Now does that mean that poaching is legal? Of course not! Even though it is sad that there are a lot of people poaching(which is probably the word that you're looking for instead of trophy hunting), hunters, anglers and conservationists funding usually helps with local wildlife divisions to help remove poaching and learn more on helping wildlife be more happy, healthy and huntable! By the way, if you are willing to study why trophy hunting is different from poaching, I'll tell you. Trophy hunting is considered hunting for old, mature animals that have seen and lived a good, long and happy life. If we don't get rid of these old animals, there could be a numerous amount of diseases that could hurt the animals more than people think, which results to mass death in the animal kingdom. Hense why the saying "New ones die, old ones go" exists. This is, in a nutshell, why hunting in general helps with conservation!
P.S. If you're wondering how I have this much information, I studied a lot about wildlife/fisheries biology for 6 years, general information like books, talking to wildlife agents and..... just pure common sense!
Those pictures at 4 minutes in are almost all the most extreme, disgusting photos they could find. Normal trophy photos look like the one with the leopard, oryx and crocodile. I have seen a couple disrespectful photos over the years, but they are almost always dug up by anti-hunting activists, from some far corner of the internet. The people in those photos are disgusting, disrespectful and don't represent hunting as a whole, not even remotely.
I am not a hunter, but will get my license when I return to Sweden. I have no interest in ever hunting in Africa (if I could afford it), but I support what they do because 99% of the time, they are respectful true hunters who love nature and animals, and it's needed for wildlife in Africa to survive until the 22nd century.
I hope everyone here complaining is vegan and doesn't engage with all the parts of society that harm animals then.
You don't get to tell other countries what they can do with their wildlife. You know what is controlled? Licensed game hunting. You know what isn't controlled? Poaching.
If they are obsessed with hunting Why not they hunt the invasive species of australia and usa?
Wild boars in usa, foxes and feral cats in australia, invasive deers ,apes and boars in hawaii , new zealand and Mauritius....and in australia too
Why not hunt them that will help the natives? Because they are not majestic as elephants, rhinos, lions and other mega fauna 😊?
HI so hunting boars in Texas is harder then you think because people actually charge you for your help lots of people do they take advantage of people who try to help clear out invasive species on their land so that's why they don't do it alot
Trophy hunting can increase the population of a species if the money generated is spent on developing local communities. In the northern areas of Pakistan, due to the efficient use of trophy hunting funds, the markhor population increased from about 700 in 2004 to more than 5,000 in 2023. People from villages in these areas are also helping the government combat illegal hunting.
BMX riding has been stopped, MX riding has been stopped, 4x4 driving has been stopped, EVERYTHING is being stopped. Now hunting too. If you grew up in Africa, hunting is in your blood, it's part of every culture. EVERY CULTURE, not just wealthy tourists. We eat wild game as a treat, not a staple diet. Poorer people hunt for the pot to stave off starvation, something Brussels obviously knows nothing about!!
Come and live in Africa, experience Africa, live Africa, learn Africa. You'll go away a wiser activist.
As for the trophies, each man to his own...
Hunters and exotic pet owners/breeders are among the most demonized by animal "rights" activists, but actually the ones doing the most for conservation, along with zoos and field researchers.
Big game hunting should be outlawed world wide.
Cant they provide the local villagers goats and other livestock for meat and create multiple ponds for water supply and growing feeds for the livestocks?
Isnt that a solution?
I think I’ve heard of something like this before on an episode of Captain Planet & The Planeters “Canned Hunt”. Something about a real Big Game Hunt Hunter named Trevor who doesn’t tolerate with Canned Hunting & Poachers. At least I think that’s how it went on that episode. At least Trevor helped out Captain Planet & The Planeters to stop this hunting plot of Hoggish Greedly.
Nothing better than going to sleep at night looking at the mounts of animals you've killed & eaten.
Schau einfach mal in deinen Kühlschrank.
As a matter of fact that overall hunting is no more legitimate, killing a living being for a fun , does not make sense.
I don't like this. But I have to admit, this is one of the few things that I know will prevent animal extinctions 😮💨
It's downright cruel. Unfortunately, nature is cruel
Sustainable wildlife utilisation, nothing wrong.
Trophy hunting is despicable.
If you ban trophy hunting how will you pay for the people who works at wildlife conservation believe or not trophy hunting provides a large revenue for wildlife conservation because why would the locals care about wildlife animals who may ruin their livelihood yo have in someway give incentives.
The loss of trophy hunting thos our the impacts
1. Funding Loss: Many conservation programs rely on revenue from trophy hunting. A ban could lead to significant funding shortfalls for anti-poaching efforts and habitat preservation.
2. Wildlife Management: In some areas, trophy hunting can help manage animal populations. A sudden ban might lead to overpopulation of certain species, resulting in habitat degradation and increased human-wildlife conflict.
3. Economic Impact: Communities that benefit economically from trophy hunting (through jobs, tourism, and infrastructure) might suffer financially, leading to increased poaching as local livelihoods are threatened.
4. Conservation Incentives: Trophy hunting can provide incentives for landowners to maintain wildlife habitats. A ban could reduce these incentives, potentially leading to habitat loss.
5. Ecological Imbalance: Removing a regulated hunting practice may disrupt carefully managed ecosystems, possibly leading to unforeseen ecological consequences.
6. Shift to Illegal Hunting: If trophy hunting is banned without viable alternatives, it might lead to an increase in illegal poaching as people seek income from wildlife.
Sir please is video ko DW Documentary Hindi upload kre
Kenya's wildlife tourism sector however rich it is does not endorse trophy hunting.
Check Grevy's zebra for quality of conservation in Kenya...As a zebra species you are better off hunted in Namibia than protected in Kenya...
how horrific is this omg
You know it's crazy that Africa has some of the most dedicated and successful wildlife conservation efforts in the world, botswana especially, yet Europeans love to criticize and pearl clutch at there methods.
Africa are the global experts at conservation of african wildlife, not europeans
People just take things too seriously....
Hunting Big cats , Elephants, Rhinoceros or Hippo is utterly shameful most people dont eat those animals Alot of those animals are low in numbers its stupid. On the other hand hunting Deer, antelope ,impala etc ihave no problem with its better meat than the grocery stores.
One of the dumbest questions ever asked.
If the trophy hunting is conducted on a licenced hunting farm, the animals are farmed like a pic or a cow in Europe.
With the only difference that the animals from a game farm had a nice life in nature .
There is no difference between wearing a pair of leather schooes or hanging a Zebra skin on the wall.
This kind of industry is providing a living to a lot of people in those areas.
As a baby taken away from your mother and the pride to be used as a pet, used as breeding machine, sold on the internet for getting shot, bones sold to the asian market. Is that what you call a nice life, you hypocrite.
Despicable
Seak and tiered locals live better.Its better live locals alone in ballans with nature and everything will be regulated by nature.
The government of Kenya caused John Hunter to eradicate lions because they were killing the Masai who defended their cattle. 26 lions in one night
"Respectful" display of exploitation and murder, yeah right🤦 Totally lacking in compassion, logic, reason and humanity.
Animals aren’t humans
@@lollol2172... He never said they were and they wouldn't need to be in order for his comment to hold true... Also some animals are humans since humans are an animal species... ;-)
A $350,000 hunt for a critically endangered black rhino in Namibia.
An outfitter advertised its “Trump Special” - a $25,000 hunt for a buffalo, sable, roan and crocodile.
Advertised as a “bargain” was a captive-bred lion hunt for $8,000 in South Africa.
A $6,000 hunt for any six animals that a customer can choose to kill in South Africa. The offerings were: zebras, wildebeest, warthogs, impalas, hartebeest, gemsbok, nyala and waterbuck.
A polar bear hunt in Canada was offered for sale for $35,000.
An Asiatic black bear hunt in Russia sold for $15,000.
A 15-day Alaska hunt to kill a brown bear, black bear, mountain goat and wolf was sold for $25,000.
Under an international convention, Namibia may allow five male rhinos to be killed per year. The meat is distributed to the local people and the payment helps fund conservation programs. The black rhino hunted was twenty-nine years old and was interfering with breeding by younger males. - So a male that was no longer breeding was stopping males who could be increasing population from doing that.
Hunt in south africa for any 6 - all of which are not endangered. So managed hunting. Cool.
You do realize that you're paying for the opportunity to hunt not a guaranteed kill right?
Your point? As this video indicated as part of a critique to the argument that the money the ¨client¨ pays does not end up benefitting the people in those areas that need it the most. If only a handful of dollars end up with the locals, I don't call that a success story of sustainability
My point is, this is the dollar amount for exterminating endangered sentient beings.
@@susllim Okay, got it. Just wanted to make sure.
I think another point that could be taken from these numbers is how a pastime like this is not accessible to the larger masses of tourists who want to experience African wildlife. It's a hobby for rich people and that by definition should raise questions about its ethics. Not to mention that many practices created for the rich are not exactly sustainable financially nor ecologically.
@@susllim
Alaska and Canada are off my travel list now
Im gonna defame Tf Outta them
Servant leadership all the way daily.
Say I don’t mind hunting but what is the point of killing lions,elephants,leopards and rhinos
For food.
@@effscottfitz-gee2024wrong
@@Oopy_goopy-r3l no cap
Hunting has saved animals from poachers in places like south africa and the population of threaten species has gone up. The local poachers get more money from the hunter then from poaching. And the locals try to save the animals for the specific hunts. So if done right it is a win for the animals.
And the word trophy... If I garden and try to raise biggest crops am I a trophy gardener? If raising beef am I a trophy farmer? if so is that bad? If I am hunting and try to get biggest deer or elk ..... am I a trophy hunter? Should I get smaller deer or elk? Should I pick small crops? Should I raise small cows? Maybe I should just get my meat from the local animal assassinating grocery store? Wait if I buy the large chunks of meat there am I a trophy meat buyer?
They grew up hunting Khoe, San and Black people
Trophy Hunting is sad and pathetic.
Stop telling African countries how to run their business.
Exactly
Hunting for trophy @ lions,hippos and elephant is nothing but a money racket
"You cannot run this CONservancy without trophy animals on this CONservancy it gives a purpose to the animals. If there is no purpose to the animals, the animals is not going to survive at the end of the day." Stephen Jacobs
He clearly not aware of the inherent, intrinsic vale of animals irrespective of the value they may or may not bring.
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I do complain about the cattle slaughtered. Africa has respected wildlife better, now animal agriculture needs to be stopped in the Europe as well.
“Yeah it’s fairly cheap” translate the Euro amount to the Tanzanian Shilling and see how much that is. Or even the US Dollar. I can also guarantee that they’re showing the lowest price.
Those who have have no respect for animal lives have little or no respect for human lives either 😢😢😢
All critics don’t understand the reality of the ground realities.. When crops are destroyed and invasion of homes living in the conserve
They are also putting this issues into the formula, considering our growing population. More people means more space and more mouths to feed, and also more tensions between us and the natural environment. Which is why we need to handle this ethically if no one wants another casualty on their side
Did you eat the crocodile on your video?
I'm against the animal hunting. Thanks for sharing!