Once More, with Feeling: Buffy The Vampire Slayer 6x07 Reaction PART TWO
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- Once More, with Feeling: Buffy The Vampire Slayer 6x07 Reaction PART TWO
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RIP to the great Hinton Battle (the singing demon) he was a legend in the theater world and will be missed! He just died a couple weeks ago 😢
I had no idea. Rip
I didn’t know😔
I have a tough time picking favorite songs from this, but his in definitely in my top 2.
Seriously? Damn, Sweet was sweet, RIP...
@@DakaraJayne Yeah. He was the first actor to play the Scarecrow in the original production of "The Wiz". Won three Tony Awards for the musicals Sophisticated Ladies, The Tap Dance Kid, and Miss Saigon. What a loss.
Apparently was sick for a long time. He was 67. 🙏
The Tara/Giles "duet" is one of my favourite moments ever from Buffy
Mine too. They were awesome
It works out so well that the obvious choice to have a duet between your two best singers as a climax in the episode works perfectly with their character arcs. This episode is brilliant in meshing the strengths and weaknesses of the cast with the needs of the story.
@@mjtpliGreat point
Mine, too.
I wish, I could sing all the songs myself, record that and put them on my channel, but I'm afraid.
I like to make the voices, I can hit all the notes. I'm just a bit embarrassed because I hate the way I look. Low self-esteem, basically.... 😔
@@chanceneck8072 Go ahead. Put yourself out there! You can always delete it, if you don't like the results.
There's an old rule of thumb in musicals:
1) By default, people speak.
2) When their emotions become too intense for speech, they burst into song.
3) When their emotions become too intense for song, they burst into dance.
When Sweet is in town,
4) When their emotions become too intense for dance, they burst into... flames.
Depends on the musical. People hardly speak in Les Miserables, and Lord of the Dance is mostly about the choreography.
@@jp3813 That might be right, but not if Sweet is in town! ;-)
@@Hasselroeder Hence, "depends on the musical".
Bit of trivia: In an interview about this episode, James Marsters said:
“I think when musicals are done well (and they’re not always done well) but when they are done well…when it works, the song happens at a point where the words aren’t enough anymore.”
That's the point of Musicals they can help show empotions that just dialogue really can't. This episoe was needed, it showed us all the fears and doubts that are so important to this season.
In musicals, when an emotion is too big for words, you sing, and when an emotion is too big for song, you dance.
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini and when it's too big for dance, you catch on fire! 🔥
@@DaDunge I'm sure the best dialogue writers can do anything. But scores tend to help.
I like the fact that you actually noticed the lyrics and that it all has a meaning in the plot of the season, it's not just a musical to do a musical.
Yeah, a lot of reactors don't pay attention to the lyrics.
Also, lest we forget, this is an episode 7, which in Buffy traditionally always marks a pivotal inflection point in the season. OMWF arguably leans harder into this than any other season so far.
One thing I haven’t seen people comment on when watching this is the way Buffy sings her big reveal to the others. There’s a real dissonance in tone when she sing “Heaven”, and it sound quite jarring and musically “off”. It really catches you out and unsettles you. But that of course is the point, driving home the reality of what Willow has done. And Willow’s horrified expression is just heartbreaking.
Another reactor who mostly reacts specifically to musical episodes of different shows noticed the tone of 'heaven' and thought the singing of this part by SMG was really bad, because off-key ...
One must know the story to really judge the songs!
My own take on this is also that Buffy wanted to sing Hell but the spell forced her to speak the truth so she pronounces Heaven as if she sings Hell but is forced mid sentence to change.
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 Yeah, I may have seen the same reactor. Context is everything, and music reactors who watch this episode with no background about the show and the storylines are really just wasting their time.
@sebastianwittmeier1274 I think I saw the same reactor. They brought this motif back when Spike sung "Living". To make us feel jarred at the thought of continuing to live. I was disappointed in her review. It is a common theme in music to convey an uneasy feeling, like the use of tritones does.
@@startingQByeah I think we all saw that one, to be fair it was the only episode of the show that she had ever seen and people had been hyping up the episode for her with zero understanding of the needed context so she probably expected to see a $100M production.
Giles is "standing in the way" because he's been like a parent who doesn't let their child fail... he's always there to protect her, he takes care of things for her, but there is a bit of Buffy not growing because she doesn't have to... "Oh, I though you took care of that." It is a bit like someone in their early 20s not learning to balance a checkbook and pay bills because their parents helped cover it for them.
Preparing for the episode was physically difficult for some of the cast members, most of whom had little experience singing and dancing. They spent three months in voice training. Two choreographers worked with Joss Whedon and the cast on dance sequences. Michelle Trachtenberg, who is trained in ballet, requested a dance sequence in lieu of a significant singing part and Alyson Hannigan, according to Whedon, begged him not to give her many lines. Sarah Michelle Gellar told the BBC that "It took something like 19 hours of singing and 17 hours of dancing in between shooting four other episodes" and she was so anxious about singing that she "hated every moment of it". When Whedon suggested using a voice double for her, however, she said, "I basically started to cry and said, 'You mean someone else is going to do my big emotional turning point for the season?' In the end, it was an incredible experience and I'm glad I did it. And I never want to do it again.
She sings really well in the end. Sure one can some few times tell she's the weakest of the people who actually end up singing a whole number but you can tell how much work she's put in.
You forgot to mention how incredibly difficult it is to actually sing in an accent that is not your own. James Marsters diod a very impressive job in that regard.
Not just a musical episode, but THE musical episode. It resonates for every character, but it's only 20 years later I realised how clever it was as a narrative device as well. The whole episode was a "truth bomb" reset. People mostly start singing about whatever they're trying not to say out loud (Right down to the big curtain). The plot could have gotten so twisted with who knows what and who's keeping secrets from whom, and this episode cleared the decks in a way that was necessary and so much fun. 😁
Joss: let's do a musical epsiode
Everyone: oh cool like a bottle episode?
Joss: no. like we move every single plot forward by hitting it with a train episode
I always love/hate how Tara sings "You make me believe" and then later "You made me believe". What a gut punch.
Xena fans: "Oh, just like The Bitter Suite".
@@jp3813 Xena fan here. Yes. Except unlike The Bitter Suite, everyone does there own singing and the songs are better. Also, Buffy's musical furthers the story and leads into what is to come. The Bitter Suite ends an arc.
Once More With Feeling does owe a bit to it, but it blows The Bitter Suite out of the water.
@@peacocca190 Buffy fan here. Everyone doing their own singing can be a detriment, as was the case with Willow. Thus, Disney often recasts actual singers for the characters' musical numbers (ex: Lea Salonga sang for both Jasmine and Mulan). Which songs are better is a matter of personal taste. Joseph LoDuca's style is more in tune with classic Broadway. Both episodes' narratives definitely function differently. In general, reactors who've never seen both shows tend to prefer TBS over OMWF because the former allows more time to get to know the two main leads as opposed to the latter which jumps in and out of several subplots.
@@vacion610 People who've never seen both shows are the people whose opinion I care about the least in this regard. It's not without value. But it is with LESS value.
And everyone doing there own singing and thus sounding "bad" is a good thing. It's a curse making people that don't want to sing sing. So they should sound like Willow and Xander singing. Not like Aladdin (Brad Kane) singing for Jonathan. EDIT: Which was fine for Superstar since that spell needed Jonathan to be a good singer. This curse doesn't.)
@@peacocca190 It's not about whose opinions you personally care for, but rather demonstrates that OMWF is mostly just for the fans. And bad singing isn't really the issue but rather that Willow and Dawn don't even have their own songs.
gosh, I love all the small details you can catch if you're watching carefully.
in 'Fool for love' Spike tells Buffy about how every slayer has a death wish, and while her friends and sister are keeping her tied to this world, a day would come when she would want it.
"And the second, the second that happens, you know I'll be there... I'll slip in. Have myself a real good day" - yet here he is, saving her from killing herself in a dance.
And it lead to him having a REALLY good day……… which lead to much worse ones
'Somethings cooking im at the griddle, I bought Nero his very first fiddle.'
I just love the writing on this show.
Willows face when she realizes what she did was awesome
So many of the most memorable moments in the whole series are just close ups of Alyson Hannigan’s face. This and the scene in the van in Innocence are my two favorites.
🎶 the curtains close,
On a kiss.
God knows,
We can tell THE END is near🎶
God I love this show 🎉
_where do we go from here?_
those words are literally ruined for me. i can't hear or read them without singing them to myself.
@@sirmoonslosthismind I agree!! Lol
Giles fears he's standing in the way of Buffy evolving into a responsible adult. She leaves scolding Dawn to him, there's a few examples in prior episodes as well, and he believes as long as he's there as a safety blanket she'll never become an adult in the real world, but continue only to evolve as a slayer, becoming more detached to the human world.
He feels that since season 4 really. He's been trying to teach her to be self reliable for quite a while but this season it just escalates a lot
Yeah, he severely misdiagnosed the situation and does not realize that what really have happened is that Buffy have sunk into a deep depression and instead believes that she have been to dependent on him acting the grown up.
What this episode does so much better than any other musical episode on another show is that they actually advance the plot through the episode, it's not just a filler episode for the reason of having a musical episode.
Then you haven't seen "The Bitter Suite" (season 3, episode 12) from Xena: Warrior Princess, which aired a few years before OMWF. It was basically a story arc finale regarding the rift between the two main characters.
@@jp3813 That ended an arc. This advanced one. Not quite the same. Yes, The Bitter Suite fits into the narrative, but it isn't at the same level.
@@cirrustate8674 Ending an arc advances the show's plot, especially during the middle of a season. Take away the songs and the two main leads are still mortal enemies which significantly impacts the following episodes. Take away the songs in OMWF and Tara still finds out about Willow's memory spell, Xander & Anya still plan on getting married, Giles still realizes that he must go away after Buffy's dialogue, and Dawn's still a kleptomaniac.
It seems like in other shows, even if they try to make it forward the plot, the setup is contrived (thinking of the flash here), where this felt like a natural progression of the show and story.
@@cRobin1375 Not sure what you mean by contrived since the only reason that Sweet even arrived at Sunnydale was because Xander was being a doofus off-screen.
Hmm...I just noticed (at 7:39) when Buffy sings "We'll sing a happy song, And you can sing along" she's staring right at the audience, telling us we can sing along?
Don't forget the parking ticket lady; that's the producer Marti Noxon. For me as a singer that little scene is always a pleasant surprise, impressive voice
And she wasn’t wearing underwear!!
The guy who sang about getting the mustard out was someone along those lines, too, I just can't remember who. Maybe one of the writers or directors.
@arc7375 That line stands out way more in the official soundtrack release of this episode. XD
@@luckyrobinshomestead David Fury, he's a writer and director for both Buffy and Angel.
nice lady. I met her at Comic Con one year, she gave me and signed her novel "I am Number 4". One day I will take the time to read it.
I think of this episode and "Hush" as sort of companion pieces. In "Hush" the idea was that only when everyone's ability to speak is taken away does meaningful communication occur. In "Once More With Feeling", everyone is forced to sing, but they can only sing their true feelings that they have been hiding from the others.
Interesting observation. 😎👍
I always took the final song after Sweet left as residual magic. The dude is so powerful that his magic still resides for a while where he's been. But at this point a strong willed person like Spike can resist if he wants to.
I’ve always taken his ‘Say you’re happy now, once more, with feeling’ lyrics to be him giving them the magic (or perhaps a command) to sing one more song.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 that could be it too.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 I never caught that. lol That makes the most sense. I always assumed it was just residual music spell.
The genius of Hinton Battle.
Yeah. What a loss.
She needs back-up, Anya, Tara.
Then they become back-up dancers, brilliant
Backup vocals too. 😂
Depression: The Musical. She is literally trying to commit suicide in the last song. Asking for "something to sing about", both as a reason to live and a request to make her dance till she burn
And none of her friends gives her any reason to either, until Spike shows up ofc.
@@Henrik_Holstno he doesn’t.
She’s just using him like an alcoholic uses alcohol, or how a gambler gambles.
She’s just doing anything to pass the time and distract herself, until it becomes al she wants to do, regardless of the consequences.
Spike isn’t helping her. She’s using him.
@@arc7375 we are talking about the moment in the episode where Buffy asks everyone to give her something to life for, none of her friends steps forward until Spike enters the scene and gives her a reason to live.
She was one second away from suicide at that moment.
@@arc7375
no one has claimed that spike's intercession and continued involvement in her life is healthy for her. but when it counts, literally no one else has anything for her. spike is the one who steps in.
The fact that you got to this point without being spoiled for this episode is amazing in itself. A lot of shows that do musical episodes never get it right, and it offers very little to the plot. This however is the exception. Not only is this an innovative episode in term of plot and foreshadowing, it's a damn good 'musical'. The songs are really good and well structured, and just work so well in the episode. There is also great comedy in the episode with the lyrics. Of course the massive reveal for the group is Buffy telling them she was dragged out of Heaven, Spike already knew this of course, and then Dawn repeats to Buffy 'the hardest thing in this world is to live in it' the exact words Buffy said to Dawn in The Gift S5 Finale. Spike getting fed up with singing is very funny towards the end, but what an ending when Buffy follows him. It was brilliantly done, and now with Buffy and Spike kissing, the whole direction of the show takes a strange turn with some brilliant, but disturbing episodes to follow. Love the reaction again. This really was a brilliant episode, Lorne from Angel would have loved this.
“Where do we go from here? maybe to the bedroom?” im crying 😭
When this first came out they had been advertising the heck out of it for like a month so people who were watching Buffy at the time would have known going in that it was going to a) be a musical, b) be longer than usual, and c) know some of the lyrics to a couple of the songs.
Also for people who were watching this when it originally came out, Buffy's line about Dawn being in trouble "must be Tuesday" Buffy aired on Tuesdays for the majority of its original run, but definitely at this point.
One of my favorite lines in one of the songs is Willow's "I think this line is mostly filler" and if I remember correctly this came out of the fact that Alyson Hannigan requested that she have as little singing as possible.
I'm thinking of more and more stuff that I've learned about this over the years, but for some reason those are the first three to come to mind.
I was waiting for this episode to bring in my head canon on Willow's spell on Tara. It was for "mind control & forgetting" everyone knows Tara was against raising a dead person then suddenly changed her mind in 6x1. My Brad goes to Willow not only knowing that spell but having the plant on hand means she's used it before MANY TIMES. Like to get Tara on her side to raise Buffy. She may even have used it on Xander and Any a to get them on board. Remember in the 1st ep how adamant she was "No one is changing their mind!"
She was way out of control before this episode.
Love this episode, especially the big reveal of Buffy's secret. A little bonus here; Anthony Stewart Head has an excellent singing voice...as does his brother, Murray Head...known for his big 80's hit ""One Night in Bangkok ".
Damn, didn't know about his brother.
Anthony had already done a lot of musical theater. He has studied at the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art.
You should check out his version of Sweet Transvestite from Rocky Horror - it's fantastic!
Most series that indulge in a “musical episode” do it in the form of a jukebox musical: they use songs that are already established. The songs for this episode were written for the story and the characters.
Giles is standing in the way of Buffy making adult decisions and taking real responsibility for her sister and handling adult issues - she keeps asking him to take care of anything she doesn't want to deal with. But Buffy has other issues going on, and does need help too.
Tara singing "I'm Under Your Spell" was so perfect, because she was in fact under Willow's spell - she's been violated by the woman she loves.
Willow's arrogance and willingness to "solve" everything she doesn't want to deal with by using magic is now revealed to the world, she's been selfish and it is time to...face the music.
This is my favorite episode ro watch reactions to. :)
"Giles is standing in the way" - He thinks that he does, the reality is ofc that Buffy have sunk into a deep depression, something that Giles completely misdiagnoses but then he is a Watcher and not a psychologist so I cannot really blame him.
@@Henrik_Holst agreed - I meant that's what he thought he was doing, not that he was right to think so. :)
So great to see a comeback of the two-parter reactions. Takes me back to the old Supernatural days. Great reaction to a phenomenal episode. Not ashamed to say I have all of these songs downloaded.
Love this episode, it's the only way that Buffy's feelings about being alive again could come out to the main group.
Lots of undercurrents in this episode that aren't that obvious at the moment but when you see further episodes and then watch this again it comes together.
Great Reaction 👍
Fun Fact: Michele Trachtenberg is a professional Dancer
Amber Bensen, Anthony Stewart Head, James Masters, Hinton Battle (Demon) and Andy Hallett (Lorne from Angel, played a Student in the musical Episode) are professional singers.
Oh no WONDER they casted her in “Ice Princess” 2005..
22 years later and I can still sing along. This and The Sound of Music, I also don't really like musicals but for whatever reason those songs are just locked in.
"Where do we go from here? Maybe to the bedroom?"
How very innocent and vanilla of you. XD XD
3:39 Best.Duet.Ever. 🤟(not really, obviously, but it's pretty awesome).
6:30 This Chorus never fails to give me chills. 🤘🤘🤘
7:44 The "Thousand-Yard Stare" here is a testament to Sarah's acting ability. 👍
9:47 I've said it before and I'll say it again, Alyson Hannigan is the best crier in the business. She always gets me. 😢
11:40 This has had hearts swelling and jaws dropping all over the world for decades. 🥰😳
I know SMG was worried about her singing voice, which isn't the best, we know it. But she gave a hell of a performance this episode.
this is one of only 2 episodes where the little Mutant Enemy icon at the end credits says "grr argh" differently
I hope Dakara saw the end credits
Episode 7 is usually a turning point in previous seasons and this one defines turning/ setting a season. Every character bluntly tells their most innermost thoughts and emotions because of a musical demon is brilliant. Another reason BTVS is unique and can not be grouped with other shows.
Finally, your reaction to this episode was excellent and may be one of the most insightful ones I have seen by any reactor.I commend you on being able to balance the surprise factor, the enjoyment, and the focus on the lyrics that drive plot and character progression. Almost everyone on the first viewing is swept away and so not realize the depth of the storytelling. Almost every musical is about the show and the music in Once More, With Feeling sounds so bouncy and upbeat , most people miss what is really happening.
Keep up the great work .
I only have few words to say...."LET ME REST IN PEACE!!🎵🤘" The Long awaited episode 🤣🎇 Stay awesome Dakara and smile away 🎊🎵
Tony Head is a former stage star, brilliant actor with a great voice and a lot of vocal training. When Giles is singing his song, Joss Whedon said the intent was that he feels like a parent that needs to let their kid stand on their own, not take care of everything for them so they can learn to stand on their own.
I love the fact that Spike says "I hope you burn," and then is literally the one who stops her from burning. That, and when he tells one of the puppet guys to sing, and then they talk.
the singing went on because the demon sang 'say you're happy now, once more with feeling'. so they had to sing one more song before they were done.
i love how spike sang 'so one of us is living' indicating that he is, essentially, not alive.
when tara referred to 'the lord of the dance ... but not the scary one' , she was referring to michael flatley. riverdance was a dancing musical that was taking the world by storm, and that was flatley's nickname.
sarah michelle actually wanted her voice to be dubbed by another singer, but the fact that they sing their own pain makes it more real, and more important than whether they sing well.
there have been a number of musical episodes for shows since this one, but not one of them has captured the essence of the show with each word sung, as it is here. so it still remains, brilliantly, number one.
sorry for the lack of capital letters. when i do that, my keyboard sometimes wonks out.
Where do we go from here? Maybe to the bedroom? And I hit the table with my knee, lol. Well...🤔🤫☺️
“Where do we go from here?”
The smart and correct answer should be “to therapy”.
@@arc7375 well, she probably should have gone to therapy when an adult man groomed and seduced her when she was 16. This is a crime in California even but no, they called it 'romantic' and did everything to make this sleazy story look this way. And they didn't care. But here suddenly we should. Because the author really wants you to.
@@arc7375 well, she probably should have gone to therapy when an adult man groomed her when she was 16. That's a crime in California even, but no, they called it 'romantic' and did everything to make this sleazy story look this way. Because when they don't want to care about controversial facts they simply don't. And they even make them look like true love, a romance.
And in contrast, if they don't like smth they will do everything to make this look like a problem. Because the author really wants you to think so too.
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It's in the process, dear😄
I have this entire episode memorised
You didn't expect that... Except the song immediately before this one said "the curtains close on a kiss..."
One of the greatest episodes of any series ever. Entertaining at the surface, but also just TONS of story and plot that plays out.
I must be high as a kite bc the thing that stood out to me on this rewatch is how Sweet noticed Dawn, his soon-to-be queen, was wearing blue, and changed his outfit to match hers before giving hers an upgrade that still kept her preferred color. That's just so thoughtful and caring. I mean, she's fifteen, so this queen thing's illegal, but imagine if the situation had been an adult woman who summoned him intending to cause chaos and then marry a demon, he's such a nice groom. Sweet indeed!
This episode had one of my favorite jokes of the whole series when Buffy says "Dawn's in trouble. Must be Tuesday." It's funny because Buffy aired on Tuesday night.
This is THE musical episode! So many other shows try to do what this show did and rarely succeed. I still listen to these songs weekly. Consequences are definitely something the gang needs to experience. The one issue I have after this episode is that Xander never experiences consequences for his actions. He summoned a demon that got a man killed, and they never acknowledge that. Reminds me when he got to hide from consequences back in season one while a hyena. He tries to sexually assault Buffy, and instead of apologizing he pretends to not remember anything. This is a character flaw with him that irks me because of how Xander responds to others who behave similarly.
Frankly Xander being the one to summon the demon never made any sense. He’s kinda dumb but he’s not, you know, stupid; plus how did he even learn about it? My head canon is that he’s taking the fall here for Dawn, who accidentally summoned Sweet when she stole the talisman.
@@mjtpli nah. I think he did it due to his insecurities regarding marrying Anya. Anya being an ex-demon could make him think nothing too bad would happen.
@@mjtpli Dawn stole the talisman the day after people started singing, so Sweet had already been summoned. And I agree that it didn't make sense for Xander to know about Sweet or to summon him. Maybe one of the people who combusted actually summoned him, but got cold feet before putting the talisman on, and that's why it was just lying about on the counter at the Magic Shop. But why would Giles have something so dangerous in the shop anyway? Great episode, even with the plot hole.
If you want more of Giles’ singing, you can always check out Repo The Genetic Opera. He has a killer voice.
I've been excited knowing this is coming up.
Xander: "Does this mean I have to be your Queen?" LOL... Xander is a supernatural magnet. Here's the list: Willow the Witch, Praying Mantis Lady, Inca Mummy Girl, Kendra the Slayer, Cordelia (now has visions), Anya - the former Vengeance Demon, Dawn the Key. I'm surprised Glory the God didn't have a thing for him. Faith did hook-up with Xander, but that really doesn't count that much. (The apartment rental lady, we didn't know what her deal is. Witch or Demon, maybe?)
Considering a slayer is essentially a human having been given a demon vaccination, I’d say it counts.
Slayers are anti vampires.
Vampires are the active essence of an ancient demon that mutate dead humans and allow the corpse to then be possessed by different demons.
A slayer is the inert essence of an unknown demon that mutates living human females yet allow the human soul to continue to inhabit the living human.
Since you enjoyed this so much, I would suggest reacting to Dr. Horrible's Sing-a-long Blog. The music in that were also written by Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen.
The curtains close on a kiss
God knows we can tell the end is near..
Together with '76 bloody trombones', because Buffy knows, what she wants
Anthony Stewart Head who played Giles was on stage like Broadway
"The battle's done and we kind of won"
i love how they handle the themes of depression in this episode, some very powerful moments
I always loved that line from Giles near the end, "The battle's done, and we kinda won."
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, or the Buffy musical episode.
"I know this isn't real, but I just want to feel"
Sure nothing bad will possibly come from this, nor the previous four seasons of giant neon red flags.
“I know this isn’t real but I just want to feel” is also pretty much the national anthem of all drug and substance abuse sufferers.
I remember watching this on it's first airing and falling in love with Amber Benson. Such a beautiful voice and woman.
Time for bed. Oh wait , once more with feeling?! Fuck it who needs sleep.
Fav songs: walk through the fire and under your spell/standing reprise
Mine are I'll Never Tell and Rest in Peace. Though, objectively speaking, Walk Through The Fire is the BEST song.
There’s two things most reactors miss in this episode.
1. When they’re all in the magic shop and Giles starts singing; his first line is 100% correct. It was a dancing demon.
2. The line Dawn says to Buffy “the hardest thing in this world is to live in it”; that’s what Buffy said to her before she jumped to her death at the end of the last season.
3:43 - When Tara realizes that Willow has been playing with her memory...so heartbreaking, especially knowing how Glory had messed with Tara's mind last season ("I'm under your spell/God how can this be?/Playing with my memory/You know I've been through hell/Willow, don't you see?/There'll be nothing left of me")...But I had forgotten that maybe Tara got the whole thing started. In the episode "Family" Tara cast that spell on the whole gang so they couldn't see demons.
There’s a difference in being gaslit and abused by your family into thinking you’re a demon and inherently evil, raised to believe everyone will hate and abandon you and using a spell to hide the demon part of yourself so you won’t be persecuted (though it was just a lie to control her by the family) and then routinely violating someone’s mind and autonomy with no consent just because it suits you and you can.
What Willow is doing is continually drugging Tara everytime Tara says or does something that she doesn’t like.
Hey, that demon's head looks like a human heart!
8:51 That look on Willow's face of absolute Horror of what she did was great acting.
Pure, unadulterated joy ❤
Six months late here but the reason they continue singing after the demon has left is because in his final lines he says "sing it again once more with feeling" which continues the spell once more time.
I ❤ watching reactions to this timeless Buffy episode
"Quite Notable" Yeah, that kiss was something. Oh, and there was some singing and stuff.
One of the best musicals, stunning plot development, and a hell of a twist.... This season goes hard!!
Giles realizes he’s partly in the wrong and should help and they go in charging
You have very good pitch Jayne. Brilliant reaction and thank you Sharon for a great edit.
RIP Hinton Battle, who passed away about a month ago from the time I wrote the comment.
The Tara/giles combo… and that one expression from willow… wrecks me time after time.
No one could have predicted the next episode. Randy Giles...
Considering Willow’s track record, we all saw it coming.
Trachtenberg did indeed request a dance rather than a song because of her prior training in dance. Not a bad decision or compromise, but I wish she'd sung, bc her brief soliloquy was beautiful.
I think she was truly underrated throughout her time on Buffy.
As a young teenager she joined an established, mature cast and she held her own. She gave so many credible, wonderful performances. I think too many confuse annoyance at her character (which was absolutely intended in early S5) with quality of acting.
I know she's had a decent career... but I think she genuinely deserved better.
Buffy's refrain at the trash fire ALWAYS makes me emotional.
I touch the fire and it freezes me, I look into it and it's black.
Why can't I feel, my skin should crack and peel.
I want the fire back.
It hits me right in the emotions I had when I first watched the show and I was in a deep depression myself.
This is probably my favourite season precisely because of how strongly is resonated with my experiences and feelings.
It's why I come back again and again to see people discover it all and share it once more. With feeling.
The mouth thing makes me think the demon was inspired by The Mask. People have burned alive, Xander, you *should* show a little remorse... oh, Anthony has an album on spotify, btw.
Xena: Warrior Princess did a musical episode maybe a season or so before this one, but this was the one that influenced so many other shows to do a musical episode of their own.
Giles thinks that Buffy is using him as a crutch to do the things (like disciplining Dawn) that she needs to do (because she's now Dawn's legal guardian) but doesn't want to do. That's why he thinks he's holding her back and he's not wrong about that. She absolutely has been using him as a crutch. Sometimes, people won't figure out what they're truly capable of until they're forced to confront it. Other times, they crash and burn.
Her mother died, she died, she was torn from heaven, she’s deeply depressed, she’s now a legal guardian, she’s now a homeowner with no practical knowledge, she has no job and no income (even though Giles agreed to be her watcher in season 5 and receive pay for it) - this is exactly the time to support Buffy. Not run away.
On that note, Buffy should receive a salary for being. The slayer. That would have solved many issues.
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yeah, giles is pretty terrible from here on out.
The remorse on Giles’ face, the guilt on Xander’s face, Confusing of Anya, and the Horror of Willow’s face after Buffy said Pulled me out of Heaven.
9:11 "I hate seeing Willow gettin' upset" 😅
Buffy is not paying attention to what happening around her because she sees giles there to pick up the pieces and he keeps helping which keeps the cycle going.
I love that the songs were original for the show
Oooh, someone's got a singing voice there, Dakara.☺
Great reaction. I also liked the fact that the songs advanced the story. Very clever.
The ending of the episode was the zenith of the entire series for me
when you said you hate seeing willow upset my stomach turned... cries
Look carefully when Sweet changes Dawn's clothes into a dress. They change BEFORE Sweet performs the spell.
Great reaction… though I don’t believe she caught the “Buffy needs backup” line…
I love the subtle comedy of btvs ….
Great reaction to a great ep that gave us the reveal from Buffy about being at peace and then being expelled from heaven by her friends and opening a big guilt trip for them (especially Willow) to deal with. And also Buffy still trying to find something to "feel for", and deciding that it might be Spike, but is it in error or not? We shall see... And interesting to see what will happen with Giles singing/feeling that his presence is holding Buffy back and that he should leave as well as Tara finding out what Willow has done by wiping her memory and what fallout might that bring about... Great vid all around, D! The final CTU for you today, and as always keep em coming!
This episode and the next one are my favorite!
Up there with the best musical episodes IMO. The songs are great - genuinely witty, absolutely fitting for each character _and_ they move the plot along (one or two at least have never strayed far from my regular playlist over the years).
Wish this guy visited LA to meet Lorne
The whole point of the Glory opening the portal was to go back to her home dimension. She was a god, what if she was from heaven, or at least a heaven. Explains why she wants to go back so bad.
She was a hell goddess.
2:59 This line always hits me harder nowadays, because I desperately wanna be a father, too...😭
Giles' and Tara's duet though...
Isn't this like the greatest thing god ever created??? 😅🤭😭🥱🤤
I like to sing along myself. I'm a decent singer
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At least I think....
You tell me! 😅
I have posted a few of my "performances" very early on my channel.
I wish I could record myself singing all the Buffy songs and put them on there, too! 😅
But I'm scared. I'm embarrassed and I hate the way I look...
Low self-esteem, basically.....
I’m guessing this is the first time you’ve seen Buffy (the algorithm gave me this video and Part 1) so I won’t spoil anything but some of your comments were very astute and almost foreshadowing! 😮
The original episode was overlong, so Joss fought hard for that extra 8 minutes. The fact that he managedf it is quite incredible given how TV scheduling works. Rebroadcast episodes were cut down to the normal length and miss this extra content.
I know buffys feeling of not wanting to be here anymore but it eventually gets better it took me a long time im still learning to accept that its okay to not be okay
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I still don't actually believe that Xander raised the demon. He would sacrifice himself to save Dawn.