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I built something similar. Copper doesnt work for the electrodes. They just get welded to the nickel. I used tungsten from a tig welder and found success.
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Полное дерьмо, прожиг акумуляторов обеспечен.
You can try, 100% save, no damage problems
After making this spot welder I would recomend not bother with this. Put a bit more money and order a kweld or something like that.
6:47 Totally horrible, without power and/or time control the result is this, overheating of the solder and consequently the cell poles, is posible damage cell in this consition and too cause explosion, very bad !!!
Well, if you circuit diagram is correct this is unfortunately not a very good device, it simply will not last long. For several reasons:
1. Your 80A relay is badly underrated for the currents involved (circa 200a).
2. Your tiny push button is extremely underrated. It's max rating cannot exceed 0.5 A, the current you are pushing through is
3.7x3/0.22=50.5A!!!! That button is a goner.
3. Your capacitor is in parallel to the power buttery irrespective of the state of the relay, I can't see it's purpose. Also an inductive pulse
created in the power wires during welding can easily exceed it's rating of 50V, it can also damage the battery. So protection is
required, eg a TVS diode.
4. Duration of the welding pulse depends on nimbleness of your fingers, not a very good idea.
Of course, if the diagram is not correct the comments above don't apply.
@blg53 do you have a channel with better spot welder project ? I want to build one
@@astasidhy4243 I have built one, but I did not record a video about it. What I suggest you do is to search RUclips with " diy spot welding machine". You will get a lot of hits, but be very selective about which one to imitate, pay attention to my points in the previous post. Some designs involve a car battery, some other batteries, some microwave transformer. The better ones use a timing driver to regulate duration of the welding pulse, often based on the 555 timer. If you chose to make one that is based on a powerful battery + MOSFETs make sure that your driver circuitry is fed by a SEPARATE battery, not the welding one. If you use the same battery for both welding pulse and the driver you will burn your MOSFETs (or the solid state relay) in no time. Good luck with your project.
This is not worth the trouble, to much cost to build
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I would insert a diode in parallel to the coil to suppress overvoltage rising during "off" of the switch. Cathode towards positive, of course ...
You try
That will make the relay drop out slower - do you really want that?
So you're just shorting a car battery using a starter solenoid. Using li-po batteries was pointless because you could thrown the relay with your car battery power. Let's hope your starter solenoid doesn't spot weld itself as it often does since they're not rated for that much current. Have a phone pre-dialed with 911 handy.
Are there other choices for the resistor besides .22 ohms? Can you suggest other values please to substitute? Thank you in advance for your response . Great video, nice close-ups, etc.
You can use .10 , .33 , .47 & 1 Ohm
Thank you so much for the quick reply. Keep up the good work. Love the video, very good camera work, etc. Thank you.
_Most_ things in electronics and even electrical circuits have a plus or minus tolerance of around 10% or even 15% on some components and the circuit will still work just fine.😉🙃
Use a higher value, at least 180 Ohms. The button will burn out soon if you don't.
@@imnotbeluga007 .Thank you for this.
What I love about this entertainment channel are the nice clear well labelled circuit diagrams and the excellent soldering technique...
Thank u very much for your compliments
Lmao
…and the dozen or more times that metal tools and objects are waved around bare capacitor / battery terminals.
I think answer was a jok!!
The labels are always nicely spelled and checked by grammarly
The video on making a simple and powerful spot welder is truly impressive。Clear step-by-step instructions,and the use of accessible materials and tools make it a great DIY project for anyone interested in welding。The unique design of the high-power spot welding machine shows creativity and practicality
@@CreativeHop thank you very much for your compliments ❤️
А от большого аккумулятора нельзя было запитать реле? 🤔👍
no problem high power Relay
Я не понял как он кратковременно включает реле? Эта всё конденсатор делает?
after coneccting to the battery , it gets connected to a nuclear plant
Pl. Provide connection diagram there is some confusion into the connections of two types of Batteries.
Please check diagram in the video , end video
Yes me too some confusion at first glance
The small batteries are to fire the relay
For diagram 7:36
@@learn_with_naveenlakshman t shows 0,0000000001 micro seconds 🤣😂😂😂😂 WTF😂🤣🤣😂🤣
I think that the relay is a little slow, it makes strong welds ! The danger is about burning through the body of the battery!
No damage problems battery
Why do you have those three li-ion batteries (12V) separately for the relay's drive coils when you could use the same big 12V battery as for everything else? They are just an unnecessary expense.
Li ion battery use for puch bottom
Was wondering the same thing.
If you look at the circuit you will see you're actually shorting out the 12v lead acid battery when welding. This could drop the voltage and the relay would then let go. Then the voltage would ride again and the relay connect and so on.... You'd have made a buzzer!
What happens if we use 12v dc adaptor instead of batteries
@@drsudduu You can if you have high current rated adapter. For spot welding you need high current.
Sy sudah membuatnya mengikuti video ini, tapi kenapa tidak ada keluar percikan api dan tidak ada sama sekali hasilnya..??
saya menggunakan aki 12v -5amp.. tolong saran nya......txs
Please use minimum 18Ah max 40aH 12v
Very nice and professional video. It's coming on the right time coz i really intend to build a spot weldering device.
Thank u very much for your compliments ❤️
为什么非要多用三颗锂电池,直接用电瓶的12V电压控制继电器不行么?
For puch bottom, you try, you will understand
Entonces al ver el diagrama me doy cuenta que aún sin el relay se puede acer los puntos solo con la batería de 12volt y el capacitar en paralelo con la batería lo importante es la corriente para poder fundir el nickel
Relay work --- only switching
Hi friend. I just want to tell you that I like your projects and I get inspired by them. This is what I need right now so it's great to have someone like you here.
Thank u very much ❤️, you try my favourite spot welding, perfectly working very simple process
Я один задерживаю дыхание, когда поднимается дым от канифоли?
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perfect timing. I'm needit to change the batteries in my drill and this is what I needed to weld in new batteries. Thank you so much
You are welcome ❤️
Thanks for the video. I'm going to make one myself. Just wondering why you used a separate 18650 pack for the relay? Couldn't you use the car battery voltage for that also?
You try, complete understand
Nice job bruv this is exactly what I need to make thanks buddy 👍🏼
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selest adapter 12 v 3 x 3.7v...... relay conecten batarea 12v 18-38 Ah
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Everything can be connected to a 12 watt battery. If the voltage is more than 12 watts. we put the converter DC (X) - DC 12 V ..
3.7w x 3pcs it's too much. Everything runs on a single battery.
Bom dia. Belo trabalho, sim, o melhor que vi desse tipo. Aqui no Brasil é difícil ter essas peças, mas quem sabe um dia. Forte abraço do Brasil.
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Oi meu amigo, é o seguinte o capacitor é só comprar uns 4 de 3300uf por 25v custam uns 4 reais cada e ligar em paralelo, já a contactora pode usar de micro-ondas é um relê potente que aciona o magnetron custa uns 25 reais, já este projeto tem alguns problemas, é solda por curto e implica um perigo, inclusive de explosão da bateria por não ter limitador de corrente, outra é se a ponteira colar e a chave de acionamento travar ou derrete tudo ou fundi a bateria, circuito mais acertado seria uma lâmpada em séria com a ponteira para limitar a corrente ou melhor entre a bateria e o capacitor isso faria uma limitação na corrente de recarga do capacitor no acionamento a corrente do capacitor efetuaria a soldagem a lâmpada acenderia e não drenaria a bateria em corrente máxima ao soltar o botão a bateria recarregaria o capacitor para um novo ciclo de solda, e outra a corrente fluiria de maneira mais segura para o capacitor aumentando a vida útil do mesmo. Eu mesmo já botaria um disjuntor na saída da bateria.
@@azlirameliasdasilva4662 Valeu!
@@azlirameliasdasilva4662 A grande ideia do autor do vídeo é usar o automático de partida pra fazer a conexão, daí permite n variações. Achei importante a sua ideia de reforçar a chavinha com um rele. Já fiz uma ligação provisória no meu carro para dar partida mandando 12 volts para o automático (o comutador da chave tinha estragado) e o fio meio fino ficava quente, deve puxar 10 amperes ou mais, essa chavinha corre grande perigo de colar mesmo. Mas eu já improvisei solda a ponto com capacitor de 15.000 uF x 63 e 12 volts é pouco pra soldar só com a descarga dele, começou a dar certo com mais de 30 volts. Portanto infelizmente vai ser necessário a alta corrente da bateria, os fios relativamente finos (mais finos do que o fio que alimenta um motor de arranque) devem limitar a corrente o suficiente para evitar a explosão da bateria, os tempos de descarga são curtos e se forem feitas muitas soldas é bom verificar se ela não está esquentando. Outra ideia é usar uma plaquinha step up para aumentar a voltagem ou uma fonte fast (sem transformador) com um zener para limitar a voltagem para o capacitor, lembrando que fontes fast não são isoladas da rede e as ponteiras vão dar choque. Nesses dois casos o capacitor é quem vai fornecer a corrente para soldar portanto é importante limitar a carga dele com um resistor de 1K x 2 watts para não queimar o step-up ou a fonte fast.
Непонятно - зачем литиевые батареи в цепи управления реле... Я считаю можно было использовать те-же 12 вольт которые мы имеем от большого аккумулятора.
You try 12v battery n lithium battery and without lithium battery, you can complete understand
Great job! Thank you very much for sharing! 👍👍👍
You are most welcome ❤️
At the end you still need a giant car battery for that eh
Bom dia parabens muito bom excelente
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Esos capacitores costarian mas q comprar un soldador nuevo en aliexpres.
VERY _clever_ circuit design! I even happen to have two Nichicon 80v 10,000μF caps laying around to use for this! And at 2:12 what is THIS? Someone who knows how to _properly use MORE FLUX_ to get a better solder bond?! Unlike 99.9% of other videos on RUclips that haven't got a clue this stuff even 'exists', let alone how it makes your work _so_ much easier because of a MUCH faster _HEAT_ transfer with a liquid!?😎
You can try with your capacitor, Best maximum 4700 - 6800uf
Ive got sevral 100v 100k uf nichicon caps im not using a well , I just didn't think they would be powerful enough I thought you would need like 100f
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome wire them in series/parallel until you have enough voltage/capacitance. Do an image search "series vs parallel" and it'll show battery wiring diagrams and how connecting + to + and - to - vs - + changes the voltage and capacity/amps.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome just be _REALLY CAREFUL_ not to get shocked by that kind of voltage/capacitance... ☠️ ⚡ I would recommend covering all the exposed terminals ETC with liquid electrical tape, a couple coats of latex paint or similar protective covering.
@@macgyver5108 I know a little bit about Electronics I've been doing car audio for about 15 years and I just started building simple Class A solid-state amplifiers I just can't figure out a timing method to time the output for spot welding I know not to just charge the capacitor up and then connect to a gauge wires to it and just short-circuited on the middle LOL I need some form of controller or learn how to build a controller I've also got a bank of super caps I made out of 6 500f 2.7v caps which can take up to 16.8v and a little over 100f but its probably getting used when I figure out how to make a miniature magnet charger for making my own little magnets.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I shouldn't worry about getting shocked until the voltage reaches over 48v on those capacitors correct? Or can I still get a zap off of something in the 16 Volt range?
Why not use the same 12v source to switch the relay and power the capacitor/welding?
You try, u will understand
The action of welding shorts the lead acid battery. The relay would let go.
Muito bom
Thank u very much for your compliments ❤️
We have made everything according you scheme, step by step.
But it doesn’t work. When I press the push button I don’t hear the CLICK.
What’s the problem it may be? Could you please help?
Check your puch bottom with multimeter, and check your relay
Gênio 👏👏👏👏👏
Thank u sir
Good evening Sir I don't have a battery so It's work for
18v - 0v - 18 v transformer
5 ampere and
5010 rectifier output , please confirm it Sir . Thank you Sir 8:25
You try with 10000uf capacitor, same connection
i love spot welding and i love this video! well done :) respect.
Thank u very much for your compliments
Biely ľudia nič nevedia? Len čokoládoví??? Nechápem!
You try understand
For Electrical diagram pause in 7:35
Nice vídeo! Good Job!
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Hi, please what is the battery protection diode? What are its parameters? Michal
Very misleading. In reality success depends on the amperage AND the pulse duration. It is impossible to control the pulse duration manually since it is varies from 10 to 16 msec [or so] depending on the material and thickness.
This is a only a make-shift [sh&tty] solution. What is sad is that a couple dollars of additional parts wouuld greatly improve it.
Simple process for homemade spot
Absolutely dangerous. Dont build this crap
No dangerous problems
Зачем этот огород с 18650 городить, если аккумулятор есть 12 вольтовый?
For the puch bottom
The two battery connection is my problem
Very simple, please check diagram in the video
Mencionar el nombre del capacitor grande para comprarlo
veo que es un relé de 12 voltios/80 A
Bhai battery ki jgh power supply use kr skte Hain kya kitne ampere ki use kr sakte hain
transformer 20v 20A -50A
Bhai 2 battery kyu use kiya hai....ek chota battery or ek car ka battery kyu samajh ni aaya? Explain please.
Bhai, ap try karo, Bina sota battery ka, aur battery ka sath, samajh me aayega
Hint :- Don't connect the car battery if the lithium ion batteries are discharged.
They could go boom
No damage problem
Dato like ok, ma La batteria auto non serve. Il cond. Da 10000 si può caricare con le litio, meglio se 2 o 3 10000 in parallelo. I due cavi piu e meno batteria vanno connessi al piu e meno litio.
You try understand
Зачем автомобильный аккумулятор не понятно или 3 18650 когда что нибудь одно можно было? На автомобильный даже конденсатор не нужен. Да и реле лишнее, конденсатор ток отдаст и всё потом обратно зарядится только резистор побольше номинал нужен. А идея неплохая сама по себе. Надо попробовать а то всё думаю как собрать точечную сварку?
You try
Hello, Is it possible to use a high-current lithium-polymer battery instead of a car battery?
Yes, you can use
The schematic provided doesn’t make sense, can you clarify with a better drawing.
Simple circuit
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Я не понимаю, зачем литиевые аккумуляторы, если есть 12 вольтовый один?
you try with li ion battery, and without lithium battery, complete understand
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so you solder the ring lugs to the wires but you use a poor quality crimp on your welding electrodes, why? A proper crimp on your ring terminals is superior to a solder connection. Why don't they solder wires on aircraft?
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So you need 18650s AAAND a 12v power source... not to count the soldering tip and those parts.... for about the same you can get an OK simple spot welder from amazon.... thanks for no thanks.
Я так понимаю, от литий ионных аккумуляторов питается повышающий DC/DC преобразователь, заряжающий накопительный конденсатор большой ёмкости (как в гаус пушке или фотовспышке)? Какое напряжение получается на выходе?
Output 12v dc, you try for understand
@@RJEDITALLпонял, спасибо. Но конденсатор электролитический аж на 63 Вольта. Зачем такой большой запас по напряжению? Это только увеличивает габариты и стоимость конденсатора. Можно было Вольт на 25 и такой же ёмкости. Запас в 2 раза для 12 Вольт.
@@Ashram220 I didn't have 25v/6800uf capacitor
That is too much power, it can destroy the battery, you should know a way to reduce the power
@@HOANGUYEN-uf4vm no damage problem battery
три батарейки зачем? если аккумулятор ....или аккумулятор зачем? если батарейки...
You try with lithium battery and without lithium battery, you understand
only flashes up his cct diag for 1sec 7:35 suspicious, warning radial caps with wire lead wont work too much Res
100% work, you try
и где он такой резистор взял на 0,22 Ома ????!!!! где ???? и какой в нём смысл ! 🤣🤣🤣
Just to understand
Saya hanya mempunyai power supply 12 v 20a cukupkah ???
Saya membutuhkan alat ini 🙏😇
Yes, you can use 12v 20 ampere dc
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excelente, pero la bateria se descargara muy rapido por estar conectada a la bateria directo, entre la batería y el capacitor tienes que colocar un diodo de microondas. y listo solucionado.
No discharge quickly for capacitor, mili second run with puch bottom
you can used the 12 volt from battry >>>no ned lithum
Yes, but not work properly , you try, understand
Why is the capacitor needed? Does the battery not deliver enough current without it?
Save for battery life
Why the redundant power supplies? You have a main 12v battery, yet you use three 3.7v Lithium Ion batteries (11.1v) to power the control circuit. The control can be powered off the main battery, perhaps a 1 amp fuse wired in for safety. Even adding a fuse is less expensive than a battery holder plus three lithium ion batteries. Those lithium batteries actually could be used as the primary battery if you only need to weld for five to ten minutes at a time.
Second, a 16v capacitor is sufficient when running off a 12v battery. The 25v minimum rating is needed when running off a 12v AC transformer, because 12v AC is 17v peaks (12v average of the sinusoid wave form)
Does work for 0.3mm pure nickel?
You try
It's not good, no need lithium battery this working
Bro, you try, complete understand
Schéma visible pendant 2sec à
7min 35sec.
Merci Monsieur 👍🤗
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Great THANK you i was looking for something like this. But i canto see no diagram
Please check the diagram, end of the video
7:36
An error in evaluating the resistance. It is not 22 ohms, it is 2.2 ohms. If he meant 22 ohms, the third strip should be black, not silver. However, if the partner is silver, it is not counted, so the resistance value is 2.2 ohms.
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@@ยุคลธรประกอบสุข not understand
Hello sire what how do iuse 12v adapater not work
@@XenyQ_ you use 12v battery
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Зачем конденсатор ?
Аккумулятор крутит стартер автомобиля до 500 ампер.
To avoid battery damage
Wrapping a resistor is not a good idea,it produces heat while in operation,, tsk tsk,,
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Why do we need capacitor here? Is not enough to have just accumulator?
For save battery
Mery bahi khali 12 volit ki betri se hi ye kam ho jata hai isky sath aur koch bhi nahi chahy ye do satky jinky sath ap welding kar rahy hen inko betri ky sath lga de bas mane kahi dafa ye kam kiya hai khali betri ky sath hi
ok, extra batttery or adobter use karoge tu acha hoga
you still need the parts from microwave or power supply. so in reality this is more costly!
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Bellissimo progetto ti chiedo da quanti ohm e la resistenza ?
@@pierantoniosalmaso 2.2 Ohm 2w
Itu gak nyetrum ya mengingat kondensatornya (elko) cukup brsar
I don't need the batteries use the same positive from the 12 volt battery
You try with lithium battery and without lithium battery, you understand
Bhai thoda sasteme bannao
Aur battery blast ho sakti hai..
Nahi blast hoga
@@RJEDITALL aur bhaiya thoda sasta bannao
а нахера там 18650 если есть свинцовый фкум , и наоборот ???
clear not understand
what size transformer would you recommend for this
20A 20v
Hollow copper tube makes me
Go I dunno about thissssss
Please check the description, copper pipe Link in description
Can you use 18650 instead of your car battery?
Yes, Use 30A 12v lithium battery pack
greetings, can any other capacitor work?
Yes
how many volt and ampiar is required of transformer??
12-24v 20 ampere
could you power the relay with the big battery instead of 3 lithium cells
Yes, You use battery with 100 ohm 2 watt Rasistor, but your puch bottom damage problems
You need to make sure the button and relay have good power. The welding battery gets shorted so the relay would let go.
What the?! It's not the batteries, show the wires completely.
You try add, 100% real
you already used big battery, where did you use 3 (3.7 v) batteries
Lithium battery use for puch bottom
Hi! Nice video and a great tool. What about I'm interested is, if you have any information how long is lasting the capacitor? I assume you use this device a while and have some experience. The capacitor has no inrush current protection and probably will go bad after a short period of time. Or am I wrong?
capacitor is unlikely to cause any damage. Thank u
hola por que no alimentas el rele con la misma bateria y con eso no usas pilas
You try, understand
Not sure about what you did with the transformer output
@@cbic9806 you try
Why not 12 V to switch from car battery? Need I realy seperat 18650 as switching voltage to the relais?
You try, with lithium battery and without lithium battery, complete understand
@@RJEDITALL Thanks, yes starting by the bike or car functionaly without separat switching voltage from a other suply - only one battery!
@@hardypointer7358 try
His Exide battery will also 😅 damaged like the spark...
@@NSKPOWER no damage problem
@@RJEDITALLthen ok ... good