Thank you for sharing very informative on the lift data. All's it takes is one shim in the relief valve and voila you covered the weight of the forks! No shortage of counterweight with the backhoe on.
With hydrosplus lift cylinders and increasing pressure you can double that lift capacity. I know, I lifted 18-80lb bags on a pallet with my 1025r. It was exciting however, as I didn’t have enough ballast and it tipped forward. Fastest I ever lowered the boom, lol!
I went with Artillian forks, 42". They weight 212 lbs so that gets you an extra hundred or so pounds of stuff you can move. But like you said, what's an extra trip when you are on the tractor. Very informative and timely video that I will share with a friend. We were discussing this issue today and as you point out, we realize you only need to get the weight a few inches off the ground.
Hi Gerald, I agree, We really enjoy driving the tractor so why would we want to take away from that. And, I used the savings buying the 1025 to purchase more attachments.
Thanks for the video. I think I saw the video you referenced in yours where they stated it could not lift what it was rated for. I was frustrated that he did not take into account all of the other weight that was on the loader and then complained the machine was no good?! I enjoy your videos. All the best to you.
Ben C. Hello Ben I’ll bet you did see the same video I saw.👍 it was very frustrating to watch so I chose to make a clear accurate video to help newbies with their expectations. Thanks for saying 👋
New subscriber here. Just bot the 1025R yesterday. I have some wooded acreage that needs some maintenance and trails. Your videos are very helpful and informative. I just watched the video using pulverizer and rake. I think the rake might be a great tool for grooming some older trails. Thanks for the hard work Bill.
Nowakezone, hello, Thanks for taking time to say hello. you'r going to love the 1025, it's awesome! now the hunt becomes accessories, lots of implements to search for and consider. Good luck with your trail building and maintenance of the trails, thanks for watching my videos.
Bill Burkhart thanks Bill. You are absolutely right about the attachments. It’s fun watching videos to see what guys are doing with them. Like right here with your fork lift and backhoe. I just watched another one and a guy attached a stump grinder. Bill it never occurred to me that there would be so many attachments available that aren’t JD. I wonder if they can be rented. Seems like they would be.
There's a really good reason for diminished loader capacity...if the manufacturers wanted to, they could equip every tractor with 1500# loaders and not affect their bottom line. But if they did, people would find themselves upside down in their front yards, buried under whole pallets of sod or river rock. While it's definitely way better to lift something 6" off the ground and move it than carry it, I still don't think you can realistically call that a 1100 lb lift. You can realistically unload 500-ish lbs of stuff off a truckbed or trailer, and that's just fine! I'd say what the 1025R lacks in loader capacity, it makes up for with towability from a normal size vehicle, and the fact that you can mow a lawn with it without murdering the grass. everyone has different needs in a tractor. If u need to lift 1000 #'s 5-6 feet in the air, take ur $ and buy a mini skid instead!
Hey Branden, the 1025 is indeed a small bull, ins't it? Why didn't I have one of these 30 years ago? The pond is holding steady, I can't wait to get back to the repairs this spring. Thanks so much for asking, hope all is well your way
Gabriel Hello Gabriel your correct pointing out more throttle may assist with lifting. I’ve done that since this video and was able to get a few inches higher sometimes.
Thanks for feed back .I have a 3032e also won t lift much on a pallet. Also do you know of way to increase bucket when trying to use bucket to push back when stuck in slope on snow
I have the Titan 42" fork on my 2016 1025r, and The frame weighs 103 lbs, and each tine weighs 98 lbs. So pretty much 300 lbs of lifting capacity that I'm already losing. The forks work great and I love having them, but they are realistically to heavy duty for the small 1025r. I just bought them because they were affordable. But I saw a video on here from "Good Works Tractors" showing off a new set of light duty forks by HLA specifically designed for the lift capacity of the smaller 1 series. I would bet that these forks would greatly increase the use-ability of the hydraulics on these tractors. (To an extent, because to much weight could bend or break them.) Anyone interested, check them out here. Link: ruclips.net/video/bC2o-ZpuUn8/видео.html
Grant Deisig Hello Grant I wish I’d known more about useful weight before I purchased my forks also. My next set of forks will be definitely lighter. Thanks for taking time to comment.
@@billburkhart , Thanks Bill, yeah me too. I'm pretty content right now with the Titan frame, and it has a 2" receiver in the center which is handy. But I'm sure I could get forks that weigh a lot less to try to salvage some lifting capacity. But I'm sure you can also agree that the ruggedness of our current forks is a plus, despite the weight.
If you get the smaller titan 36 inch forks with the 50 inch rack you’ll get more payload capacity because the setup itself weighs about half of the one you have.
Bill, I have a 522 lbs engine to unload tomorrow. I scrambled to make sure my 1025R could do it. Your numbers seem higher than I expected and when I looked at A TTWT video, he is using a bucket and seems to only lift around 520 lbs. I have the same older, straight arm loader as yours in this video (I think that is the H model?) I know you may not see this in time to respond but any comment? Thanks, Jim.
Jim how high will the engine be above ground to unload? I can only imagine you’re gonna have to lift it from 4 feet and then lower it to the ground, am I correct?
@@billburkhart, I’m not sure, but it is coming from fedex freight so I expect a typical van style semi trailer which I’m guessing will be in the 4 foot tall range.
I have good counterweight so I’m good there. I think I’ll just see if it can handle it when they show up, if I can’t lift it I’ll have them hold it at the dock for me and go there so they can load it.
Happy Saturday Jason, I can't recall the RPM but 1800 seems to be my normal operating target for many things I do. No reason for that setting, just seems to give me the speed I'm expecting.
Hi Damian, I’ve since learned that moving the load closer to the fence offers much more lifting capacity. Increasing the throttle is a good idea, too. Thanks for checking in. -Bill
I used a cheap crappy pallet that had some wood missing from being in dirt since last fall. I had 8 80lb bags ( 640 lbs) on it, and with full throttle, I could just get it to below the height of the tailgate of a full-size 4 WD Dodge 2500, I removed 1 bag and I was able to load the truck. So I would say 550 pounds with a cheap pallet.
Much variation will result with how close to the backrest the weight is, but I have easily loaded a 550 lb tiller sitting on a pallet using my Artillian forks into a high truck bed.
@@Mr42960 I believe your statement, if I purchased another set of forks, I'd choose a lighter weight fork but still keep the backstop. That backstop has prevented damage to my tractor several times now. Thanks for commenting.
I absolutely love this video. Short, simple and accurate.... Your voice was on point too!
Happy fathers day Aaron! -Bill
@@billburkhart and the same to you sir! Enjoy the day and weekend!
Thanks for the video. I was looking to see if I could lift a 48" tiller out of the back of a pickup. This video will last!
Thank you for sharing very informative on the lift data. All's it takes is one shim in the relief valve and voila you covered the weight of the forks! No shortage of counterweight with the backhoe on.
With hydrosplus lift cylinders and increasing pressure you can double that lift capacity. I know, I lifted 18-80lb bags on a pallet with my 1025r. It was exciting however, as I didn’t have enough ballast and it tipped forward. Fastest I ever lowered the boom, lol!
Good for you knowing what to do when it tipped forward. I was always taught undo what ever caused the issue immediately. Good job.-Bill
I went with Artillian forks, 42". They weight 212 lbs so that gets you an extra hundred or so pounds of stuff you can move. But like you said, what's an extra trip when you are on the tractor. Very informative and timely video that I will share with a friend. We were discussing this issue today and as you point out, we realize you only need to get the weight a few inches off the ground.
Hello Suburban Tractor, Good point, getting forks that weigh less puts that savings into capacity to lift. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Hey Bill! I know this is an old video, but if you were to put loads closer to back of the pallet, you can move more weight. Good video, thanks
Hi Mitchell, you are correct. Thanks for taking time to say hello, stay healthy!!
Thanks for the video ! Always great to see what it's capable of. For the 5 acres I have, it's a great tractor for me too...
Hello Ralph, thanks for checking in, I appreciate you taking the time to write.
A lot of people say I should have brought a bigger tractor than the 1025r but like you I say i have more time than money and i can make more trips.
Hi Gerald, I agree, We really enjoy driving the tractor so why would we want to take away from that. And, I used the savings buying the 1025 to purchase more attachments.
Thanks for the video. We appreciate it.
Your welcome Nick
Thanks for the video. I think I saw the video you referenced in yours where they stated it could not lift what it was rated for. I was frustrated that he did not take into account all of the other weight that was on the loader and then complained the machine was no good?! I enjoy your videos. All the best to you.
Ben C. Hello Ben I’ll bet you did see the same video I saw.👍 it was very frustrating to watch so I chose to make a clear accurate video to help newbies with their expectations. Thanks for saying 👋
Good information I didn't know that. The fun meter is something new also, curious.
John Deno Hi John, thanks for saying hello, I’m having a ball making the fun meter video...stay tuned 👍
New subscriber here. Just bot the 1025R yesterday. I have some wooded acreage that needs some maintenance and trails. Your videos are very helpful and informative. I just watched the video using pulverizer and rake. I think the rake might be a great tool for grooming some older trails.
Thanks for the hard work Bill.
Nowakezone, hello, Thanks for taking time to say hello. you'r going to love the 1025, it's awesome! now the hunt becomes accessories, lots of implements to search for and consider. Good luck with your trail building and maintenance of the trails, thanks for watching my videos.
Bill Burkhart thanks Bill. You are absolutely right about the attachments. It’s fun watching videos to see what guys are doing with them. Like right here with your fork lift and backhoe. I just watched another one and a guy attached a stump grinder. Bill it never occurred to me that there would be so many attachments available that aren’t JD. I wonder if they can be rented. Seems like they would be.
There's a really good reason for diminished loader capacity...if the manufacturers wanted to, they could equip every tractor with 1500# loaders and not affect their bottom line. But if they did, people would find themselves upside down in their front yards, buried under whole pallets of sod or river rock. While it's definitely way better to lift something 6" off the ground and move it than carry it, I still don't think you can realistically call that a 1100 lb lift. You can realistically unload 500-ish lbs of stuff off a truckbed or trailer, and that's just fine! I'd say what the 1025R lacks in loader capacity, it makes up for with towability from a normal size vehicle, and the fact that you can mow a lawn with it without murdering the grass. everyone has different needs in a tractor. If u need to lift 1000 #'s 5-6 feet in the air, take ur $ and buy a mini skid instead!
Brian, good comments.
Great video Bill, I think it's amazing what these little machines can do. I love mine.
Btw hows the pond doing?
Hey Branden, the 1025 is indeed a small bull, ins't it? Why didn't I have one of these 30 years ago?
The pond is holding steady, I can't wait to get back to the repairs this spring. Thanks so much for asking, hope all is well your way
hello. great video. have you tried using more throttle with the same weight as well? thanks.
Gabriel Hello Gabriel your correct pointing out more throttle may assist with lifting. I’ve done that since this video and was able to get a few inches higher sometimes.
Put those bags in the bucket and it will lift no problem..same principal as with fulcrum
Hello Dave, I understand what your saying, I only wanted to demonstrate how I use the forks under normal daily conditions. Thanks for saying hello.
Thanks for feed back .I have a 3032e
also won t lift much on a pallet. Also do you know of way to increase bucket when trying to use bucket to push back when stuck in slope on snow
Dave, I've seen examples of how to use the loader bucket or the backhoe to get unstuck on You Tube.
Bill, Greetings from the Loess Hills in SW Iowa, on your next video please make sure you give us your source for the “Fun Meter”
Hello Don- I sure will , I'm having fun making this fun meter video.
I have the Titan 42" fork on my 2016 1025r, and The frame weighs 103 lbs, and each tine weighs 98 lbs. So pretty much 300 lbs of lifting capacity that I'm already losing. The forks work great and I love having them, but they are realistically to heavy duty for the small 1025r. I just bought them because they were affordable. But I saw a video on here from "Good Works Tractors" showing off a new set of light duty forks by HLA specifically designed for the lift capacity of the smaller 1 series. I would bet that these forks would greatly increase the use-ability of the hydraulics on these tractors. (To an extent, because to much weight could bend or break them.) Anyone interested, check them out here.
Link:
ruclips.net/video/bC2o-ZpuUn8/видео.html
Grant Deisig Hello Grant
I wish I’d known more about useful weight before I purchased my forks also. My next set of forks will be definitely lighter. Thanks for taking time to comment.
@@billburkhart , Thanks Bill, yeah me too. I'm pretty content right now with the Titan frame, and it has a 2" receiver in the center which is handy. But I'm sure I could get forks that weigh a lot less to try to salvage some lifting capacity. But I'm sure you can also agree that the ruggedness of our current forks is a plus, despite the weight.
If you get the smaller titan 36 inch forks with the 50 inch rack you’ll get more payload capacity because the setup itself weighs about half of the one you have.
Good to know, thanks so much for sharing the information
Bill, I have a 522 lbs engine to unload tomorrow. I scrambled to make sure my 1025R could do it. Your numbers seem higher than I expected and when I looked at A TTWT video, he is using a bucket and seems to only lift around 520 lbs. I have the same older, straight arm loader as yours in this video (I think that is the H model?) I know you may not see this in time to respond but any comment? Thanks, Jim.
Jim how high will the engine be above ground to unload? I can only imagine you’re gonna have to lift it from 4 feet and then lower it to the ground, am I correct?
@@billburkhart, I’m not sure, but it is coming from fedex freight so I expect a typical van style semi trailer which I’m guessing will be in the 4 foot tall range.
Are you able to have a backhoe on the back or sufficient counter balance?
@@RVJimD can you pick it up at the terminal?
I have good counterweight so I’m good there. I think I’ll just see if it can handle it when they show up, if I can’t lift it I’ll have them hold it at the dock for me and go there so they can load it.
What is the Max height with the Max weight,?
What rpm are you running at for lifting?
Happy Saturday Jason, I can't recall the RPM but 1800 seems to be my normal operating target for many things I do. No reason for that setting, just seems to give me the speed I'm expecting.
would I be wrong if I said that maybe running higher RPM would increase the weight capacity for lifting?@@billburkhart
Hi Damian, I’ve since learned that moving the load closer to the fence offers much more lifting capacity. Increasing the throttle is a good idea, too. Thanks for checking in. -Bill
Can't tell for sure but it sounded like you were doing the lift at idle. Increased RPM will increase lift capacity.
Dan you are correct. Thanks for taking time to comment. Good point.
I would like to know how much it can lift to say... your truck bed.
Chris Nash Hi Chris. Sorry unable to show you that.
I used a cheap crappy pallet that had some wood missing from being in dirt since last fall.
I had 8 80lb bags ( 640 lbs) on it, and with full throttle, I could just get it to below the height of the tailgate of a full-size 4 WD Dodge 2500,
I removed 1 bag and I was able to load the truck.
So I would say 550 pounds with a cheap pallet.
Much variation will result with how close to the backrest the weight is, but I have easily loaded a 550 lb tiller sitting on a pallet using my Artillian forks into a high truck bed.
@@Mr42960 I believe your statement, if I purchased another set of forks, I'd choose a lighter weight fork but still keep the backstop. That backstop has prevented damage to my tractor several times now. Thanks for commenting.
What brand forks are those?
These are Frontier forks Chris. Video #88 has a good review of the forks. Thanks for asking, merry Christmas.
brign the rpmsup a bit
Good morning; even after raising the RPM somewhat, it was better that I move the load closer to the fence and then it lifted much better.