WHY YOU NEED TO STOP BUNNY HOPPING | How to Punch
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The punch is one of the most useful moves you can use on your mountain bike. Bunnyhops are great but aren't always the best way to get up and over obstacles. In this video Max and I will break down why the punch is so effective and tips on how to do the Punch.
I can't even do a bunnyhop yet and now this video gets suggested to me, how brutal this sport is 🥺
magic!
There's always someone better than you with this sport. So long as your having fun who cares
in my opinion, this move is easier to learn than a bunnyhop. I learned it on a street curb
Learning is not brutal
This move is probably easier and more intuitive than bunny hopping. I can do the punch alright, but never mastered the bunny hop
Im a firm believer in this move. I bought my first MTB in march of this year and this maneuver has really helped me improve my riding. Even on group rides with people who have been riding far longer than me, i find my self going for more technical "step-up" type obstacles than others because i've gotten the "punch" down.
this is a beautiful demonstration from you guys. I have struggled with bunny hopping for years but the punch feels much more "natural". thanks for sharing!
So right bro, more natural and more useful!
I've found the punch super useful on the trail. Bunny hops too, but for different things. Yay to the West coast clinics!
Love that you are keeping trials skills relevant to the current set of mountain-bikers without it having to be purist TGS technique.
Awesome coaching! With me struggling to hop the back of my 30 pounds XL-sized eMTB, I got fresh hope now to get more challenging hurdles done with that old (or rather wise) man‘s bunny hop ☺️. TY
I really enjoy your videos of just riding around hoping on stuff, up stuff, balancing, etc. That's pretty much what I do EVERY single time I ride anyway. There is ALWAYS something that you think "Hmmm, can I get up that thing?"
Great explanation. Especially the manual vs popping to have the bend in your elbows. That explanation really clicked with me. Thanks for the tips !
We add sprocket bash guards and go over trees up here in PNW. Rocks as well. Good times. Fun skill to have when you realize you can just romp right over a downed tree or boulder. Lift tire on top. Unweight body and push forward on bars. Bike follows.
Nice video as always. Max will be a good addition!
Great camera angles on the demonstrations!
I have never heard of a punch but you are both clearly brilliant at it so thanks guys
Thanks!
Hmmm, getting back into the sport after a couple of decades plus. I suspect this is basically what I used to do all the time. Just have to relearn it. Was pretty comfortable with 20 inch steps then with a rigid fork. Better suspension now but a stffer body🤠.
Decent tutorial. Thanks.
I finally know what this is called, I've been doing it for ages.
This one definitely gonna get some views Jeff. If the weather ever improves up here in Ontario I’ll be on this like a fly on shit!
I am a commuter, not trail rider and i learned this thing before the bunny hop and i do find it more useful just because this way you can basically move along with pedestrians over any obstacle. Definitely a skill to be used and not overlooked when navigation is concidered
Great video - loved the presentation and I'm actually feeling enthusiastic about trying to learn this. That's unusual for a lazy git like me.
The punch looks great.. thank you for the "how to" .. practice, practice. I just have to do this with a body lunge rather than scooping my feet.. this Im going to work on. I just dont want to slam my back tire to many times. Practice. thanks team
I'd LOVE to see you guys do a combination of hop and punch. On grass because I imagine it'll hurt the first few times.
I think something like this:
1. Manual lift position
2. Bend elbows to bring front tire higher.
3. Punch Motion
4. Level out somehow
So like a punch that is maybe higher that starts as a manual lift maneuver - all to max out front end height.
I cannot do this myself - the mechanics of it intrigues me and you dudes have the skills to do it if anyone does.
100% Great video...funny you went back to that rock. I remember that video!
I always just thought of these as weenie hops.
Saves a Butt load of energy.
How could any rider above novice not know how to do this,
If you didn’t know this tech you’d pop your tire on little square edges all the time.
Both methods are useful in different and similar situations. With proper technique a bunny hop can be used in both high and low speed situations as well. Combining the bunny hop and punch will make you unstoppable and will get you over massive obstacles. I feel like one is not better than the other, its two different methods that combine elements of both.
Love a good rocky trail punch. Didn't know it was called that 🤔
I will never stop! :) This is a great skill to learn, nice video!
Thanks guys. Super helpful. It’s a technique I’ve been doing for years after kinda figuring it out myself, but getting some coaching on it from you guys and seeing what is actually happening really helps. Gonna go practice it with your tips. 🤙
Great video - thanks.
Good video mates! As always, it looks easier when you do it than real life but, it’s justa a matter of practice 💪🏻👏🏻🤘🏻
After watching this I've learned how to "punch" over a 10-storey high building
Excellent how to video.
Great video! You guys have legit skills! But I never knew what I've been doing had a name! Punch! Ride a hard tail so this is a no-brainer move on pretty much any trail. Cheers!
Not only have I been doing the punch wrong, I've been calling it by the wrong name. Can't wait to get on the trail and start working on it!
It's like bump jump, but much higher. As for me, practice, practice, practice!
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #RideOn #KeepBiking
Jeff! so cool to find your channel, im 42 and just getting back into riding trials on a 24inch street bike. For motivation I was watching Evolve and Contact, do you ever ride street anymore? IMO you were the best street trials rider of your generation.
Thanks for finding me!! I have a custom 27.5 trials bike that I play around on!
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Amazing and inspiring to see you still love riding, thank you for the reply. Going to ride now!
Awesome video Jeff! Great job breaking it down
At my age, I think that I’ll just get off of my bike and walk around those. Thanks. I’ll leave that stuff to you young guys.
I’m 65 and just started punching. I can get up on 24” obstacles using this technique. My home trails are full of features that require the punch or you’re walking.
I've been using this move since your first video five years ago but struggle to clear my chainring on anything more than a couple of feet high. Finally got around to videoing myself and comparing against your videos. What I'm realizing is that I'm waiting too long before initiating the move. So when my front tire bounces up the object, I'm still crouched with arms bent. You guys are already extended well upward at that same point, allowing plenty of time for your rear wheel to come up before slamming the object. I think that I just need to initiate the move well ahead of the object instead of waiting until I'm right at it.
Great call. Video analysis is so helpful
I have the same canyon bike as this guy and I love it
This is a fantastic video. Looking forward to practicing these moves. Thank you!
Excellent instructions. With my heavy eMTB I use “the punch technique” on smaller obstacles.
Excellent share
This reminds me of how Seth (you know, Seth) punches from the floor up onto his workbench. I think he calls it “huck to flat”
Come to Eugene, Oregon!!
Your content is exciting enough without the guitar solo background noise. I’d be great if you did a slomo with a stop frame analysi for each stage - approach- halfstep on the pedal- compression-wheel left-bend knees for punch etc. for utter noobs (ahem, moi…), this really help.
I really liked this video. What I really appreciated as well is that you commented and showed that this technique also works with the seat up. I'm running a fixed post on my most used bike and every tutorial out there you see about pretty much anything is only shown with the seat dropped never with that darn thing in the way.
I hope in future "How to" videos you'll show how it's done with a raised seat as well and mention any possible differences there might be.
There's some examples in the video!
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Yeah I saw. Just meant that you'll keep adding those in upcoming How To videos as well.
thanks
Good stuff !!! Thank you.
Ahhh the rock at mahlon.. I learned on that rock, and the one by the parking lot.
Both techniques are useful depending on the terrain presented to you, but the punch is definitely an easier move for the majority of situations.
in slow speed situation this is the right move
I feel like my main fear of going higher than a couple curbs stacked on top of each other is damaging the down tube or chainring. Not really the falling part.
fair
Thought it was called a roll up. This is they way I've always got up stuff. First time I ever tried to get up something was on a fixed gear road bike, so it kind of stuck for better or worse, even the hop pedal reset that is required without a free hub. Less energy, you can do it at low speed and to be honest I completely suck at bunny hops.
that's rad! PS I might be coming to RVA again soon!
This is awesome, thanks for sharing!
Pretty neat how the algorithm recommends mountain biking techniques to a blind viewer who can't actually go mountain biking. Or well...I could, but I'd probably also end up in the hospital with half my face missing or something.
Cool stuff. I learned something for my next life
Thank you for watching!
Reason 4: you can't steer if your wheels aren't on the ground
Reason 5: you can punch up things that are way taller than what you can bunny hop.
These guys make it looks easy. I can't do a punch not even on my front doorstep. lol.
How is the move different from wheelie? You give a punch to lift wheelie. You also compress the fork to get a boost up.
Great video
Great stuff, as usual. When you make the initial compression, is it coming strictly through your legs or are you getting a little extra compression in the fork through your arms?
the initial compression should feel similar to a push up with a little bend in your knees.
Incredible tyre displacement. What rear pressures do you run?
Are you guys wearing clips? Trying to figure out how to get the back wheel up…
thanks for this video, i have turbo levo emtb and struggle to do a manual let alone bunnyhop due to the weight. Would this be easier?
Definitely!
Does this technique require clipless pedals, or is this reasonably doable with flats?
100 peercent doable. We are both riding flats in this video!
@jeff looks like you guys have smaller ish bikes so you can really throw them around. Do you size down? Also, what kicks are those? Sick vid. Thanks to you both.
Ill be practicing this. What is the steel full sus in the video anyone? I need a new frame next year and that looks lush!!!
It’s the new Reeb SST. It’s awesome. Check it out at www.reeb cycles.com
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss lovely! Cheers Jeff.
"springlock your feet"
- William Afton
If I ride with flat pedals, I would assume I have to dip the toes and scoop the rear, correct? Thank you! Awesome video!
Definitely a little bit but actually the higher your front wheel goes the more you’re actually pulling up your bike and pushing your handlebars away which drives the pedal into your feet
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss omg that makes sense! Learned so much from your videos!
How to do this on a 50 lbs eMTB 😳
So when you jump a bunch of people lying down at one of your shows, you aren't bunny hopping? When you need to boost off a jump to gain extra needed distance, you are now "punching " , not bunny hopping? What about bump jumping obstacles? It's essentially a bunny hop. All the time i spent learning to bunny hop has been in vain? Could have been just doing this?
tubeless mine is tubed so it'll be hard cuz if my rear wheel hit something i will get the what you call snake bite
does punch require to have clip pedals?
Nope. Flats are perfect too
Is Jeff on the new reeb sst?
I sure am! I love it
What kind of bikes are these?
Punch it Chewey!
I really wanna know what kind of bike that is - I love steel
It is a Reeb Cycles SST reebcycles.com/products/sst Check it out!
isn't that just more controlled bunnyhop ? I can't do either, but seems like same motion as bunny hop, just less explosive
Not completely but some similarities
I think you guys did a good video but I think the category from bunny hop to a punch depends more on the way individuals like to ride. For instance you guys were doing more what it seems like trials riding which that type of riding you see way more punches then bunny hops. At least from what I've watched. And bunny hopping is more a move all riders should learn because it's part of the basics just to hop over things. But learning the bunny hop could progress into learning how to punch.
Yeah, I still bunnyhop a lot but I punch way more often. Bunnyhops don't work great out of turns, on uphill or rocky run ups. Definitely great to have both skills dialed though.
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss I think it's essential to have both in your arsenal. Maybe not so much for a beginner but if wanting to progress in your riding then I feel it's essential.
look at Jeff absolutely GUSHING over how much he admires his friends ripply arms...uwuu, right Jeff?
Man crush
How tall are you guys?
6'4'
That's basically the easy bunnyhop version and better suited for climbing on obstacles than getting over them. Try this with a tree laying on the trail, won't work.
That’s literally how I get over any log over 12 inches tall. Check my Instagram. It’s super useful for massive tree hops.
Is like telling a skater to stop ollie-ing. Not going to happen. 😂
Lol. I know...
But I tried to do a punch on my board and almost died😂😊
this is like a chinese ollie but on steroids
Some good tips is you aren't lifting the bike with your legs, you're just unweighting your legs so you aren't stopping it from lifting up. Pushing the bike forward is what lifts the rear.
Nothing like a couple of young whippersnappers creating some clever clickbait to attract young riders, hahaha.
Come on Fellas, there wasn’t a single obstacle in your video that you were going to Bunnyhop except for the first bunny hop over the log.
I’m just ribbing you here! ;))
Great video for some young riders that is old news to some of us old farts.
Ride on!
:))
Thanks for checking it out!
This is all i can do on an e-mountain bike anyways 😄
Do you remember ordering a double cheeseburger and a medium coke??
Hold on… Jeff lenosky??? Like one of the god fathers of modern day dirt jumping???. You and Taj’s rays odd couple edit is still my favorite
Sick! That was so much fun!
Is this kinda what we used to call a "JapZap" in the 1990's?
Yup, I needed something more PC!
All great points, but... bunny hops are cool
Agreed! But "bunnyhops are cool" doesn't catch the eye lol
This is a bit of a misleading video, there is a time and place for both techniques
Newsflash Punch= bunnyhop
Music? No need imo…. Good vid
This is kinda dumb because no one who has learned a bunny hop doesn't know how to punch. Basically an easier version of a bunny hop that you can just learn naturally. Opposed to a bunny hop that you can't just naturally learn.
not necessarily I know plenty of buddies who bunnyhop really well and don't use the punch when they could. Ideally you want to have a good understanding of both moves.
its still a bunny hop you tall guys have this problem not every body else you can rename all you want prload bunny hop its still the same move,
Why you have to pull a video?
the trail was questionably legal.
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss illegal on public land? I don't really understand the regulations of trail systems. It seems strange a bicycle path can be illegal with everything else society allows
I cant belive this vidéo BH is important….wtf ?
Bro all these examples are people going up steep ledges/obstacles while already pedaling up gradient. No one is bunnyhopping up that shit at 3 mph anyways. Conversely, no one is going to do your “punch” mobbing 25 mph down a steep trail.
bro... I know, if I'm going downhill fast bunnyhops are a great skill to use. That's why we start the video saying, it works well because you can have your seat high, don't need speed, can do it on bumpy ground and uphills.. see where we're goin? Ideally you'd have both skills in your back pocket. I use this more though because on a full size MTB I can go much higher like this. I can punch over a 36 inch suspended log and I couldn't bunnyhop it.
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Id love to see you explain how do use this technique on a large 36" log.
Click bait title.
No one ever watches my vids so I gotta do what I gotta do! Hope you liked the video!
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss I guess it worked as a one off as I did click but it puts me off clicking on any future video or subscribing. It must be hard to find the balance, appreciate the response the video was good!
@@msgesus4518 It's definitely a click baity title but it's kinda true, using the punch is super consistent and a great way to tackle a ton of trail features. I don't do a lot of click bait titles and I definitely do post click bait content, I hope you end up a subscriber.
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Alright, fair game. Subbed 🤠
Grow up
And if you suck at trek stands, you for sure will suck at what they are speaking of. Trek stands are the ruler of bike control.
Definitely
I wouldn't bunny hop many of the scenarios that you showed anyway. It wouldn't make sense.
Great video as always. We call this an "old man's bunny hop" down here in the Carolinas. Great results with less effort.
lol, that must be why I love it so much
I never knew what this move was called. I have been doing this for nearly 30 yrs because it has saved me from bashing my rear wheel like a botched bunny-hop can. The Punch works great on climbs with multiple step ups, where you don't have speed. I use this on one of our local trails that has a very loose/rocky climb with two steps that are about 18" tall and the initial approach is 4" of powder.
Same! But, I did learn from this video to preload instead of manual as the set-up (I set up with a manual, then rock my body in), so I'm looking forward to practicing and using that.
Yeah this wasn't called a punch back in the day. I think we just called it an up, or and up to front. hate the punch name though! It's kooky.
@@PaulKentSkates I feel like punch is a recently "made up" name. been doing this since the 80s and never heard the name