Vocal Coach/Musician Reacts: John Farnham 'When The War Is Over' In Depth Analysis!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2023
- Back again with the incredible John Farnham who continues to blow me away with his musicality and his vocal prowess!
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John’s vocals continue to impress! Loving that guitar solo too 😉 🎸
Guitarist is Brett Garsed. He's been with John for many many years.
Brett Garsed originally joined John in 1986 when he recorded the album Whispering Jack. And continued to tour with John for years. He left Australia in the late 80's for 14 years and joined American band Nelson for a few years then recorded and toured as a duo with TJ Helmerick. He came back to Aus in 2000 and continued touring with Farnham and also released albums of his own. He is a guitar legend ❤
Hi Nina, interesting Fact: John was born in Dagenham, Essex, England and moved to Australia with his family when he was 10 years old.
With a Name like Brett it's no wonder he is so talented 😂 Thank you for your reaction and review of this beautiful and emotional song. It's amazing to see all these videos of John on RUclips so we see all the ages and stages of his career.
If you enjoyed Brett’s guitar playing here, you should definitely check out John doing Burn For You, it is absolutely incredible
John, quite a bit older here, pores his heart out with this vocal masterpiece. John’s voice is epic, and his seemingly endless range resonates. The emotion and passion he puts into this is so so good and being able to still belt out like that is amazing. And Brett Garsed on guitar as always, awesome.
John's delivery of this song got better and better as he got older. Originally written by Steve Prestwich for Cold Chisel . When Cold Chisel broke up in 1982, Steve joined the Little River Band with John who was LRB's lead singer at the time. LRB recorded their version of the song. And John has continued to sing it at just about every concert he has had. Cold Chisel also continued to perform the song everytime they get back together. It's a beautiful song.
I was blessed to be front or side of stage every night of this tour for it. Its one of the songs most of us would come out for.
@@mattybond lucky duck
@carolynh8866 won't lie, it was definitely a highlight of my life. I don't get star struck but moment like that when the crew don't get sick of the show and are having as much fun as the audience is pretty epic.
Cold Chisel broke up in December 1983, not in 1982. Steve Prestwich joined LRB in 1984. Facts should be checked, don't just rely on memory or hearsay.
I was never a fan of The Beatles - they wrote some very good lyrics - but in my mind I saw them as a group of travelling musicians, moving from fair to fair, much as travelling troubadour did hundreds of years ago. But - BIG BUT! - JF's slow version of Help is astounding, heartfelt emotion in every (perfect) note. That's the first time I've truly appreciated a Beatles lyric - I'm so glad it's on youtube. 27.12.23. UK. E♥️
Cold Chisel wrote songs that went straight to the heart of regular Australians without ever being preachy or pompous. They were songs about life, love and hardships that everyone could identify with.
It's why the affection for them has never waned at all, and those songs still remain classics.
Flame Trees - one of my favourites.
One of his best vocal performence. In my oppinion. His vocal range is from another planet. Get well soon mr Farnham ❤
Hi Nina, I think the person that told you to skip the first couple of minutes did you a disservice, John’s comedic interaction with the audience and his band during his shows is part of his charm. And in the start for this video, he calls out Lisa and her baby in the audience, as Lisa is usually on stage as one of his backup singers.
Oh he is so good and to think, he has never had a singing lesson in his life! Seeing him sing this live, is unbelievable.
you can take the boy out of dandenong but you cant take dandenong out of the boy
Brett Garsed on guitar. He played with Farnham in the early days, then moved to the U.S., and has a number of good instrumental albums in the jazz/rock genre.
Continued to back and tour with John too
The thing I love about John is that he shares the performance and the stage with everyone on stage. He is such a facilitator and so humble in doing so. 😍
He often shares with his audience as well, doesn't he? You're the Voice, Help, Touch of paradise. - - - must be the biggest backing choir ever from his fans! . And they're truly gorgeous. His interaction with his audience comes across as love for each and everyone of them. December 2023. UK. E❤😮
Never studied music, so I really appreciate how you explain the "technicalities" of the arrangements of the various instruments. And I really love Farnsey! Mch'24. UK ❤
Regarding your compliment about the arrangement and piano chord progression, that’s all due to the wonderful Chong Lim, John’s long-time musical director. He also did a great job at their concert at the Sydney Opera House. He was also conducting the Sydney Symphony Orchestra from his piano. The amazing Brett Garsed is a phenomenal guitarist and I recommend that you visit his channel. He can also sing well and has sometimes been a backup singer with the band when he’s playing.
Brilliant song sung by a brilliant vocalist, brilliantly.
This is the tour I worked on. 😁 Brett Garsed is a legend on guitar.
Oh no way! Brett is amazing. Thank you for the extra support 😊
@ninaschofield he is and the nicest guy. The whole band and crew brought us newbies in like family. Chong (piano and md) is a musical genius but can explain so simply that even I could understand some theory.
I love vocal coaches dissecting John's voice..... to us.. he just sings, thats him that has always been him... .
John's mic technique is perfectly modulated for his voice.
You see some singers pull the mic CLOSER to make up for a lack of natural power. John, on the other hand, sometimes has the thing about a foot from his mouth because of the sheer might of his voice.
Yes!
Just another breathtaking performance from this great man.
Thanks Nina. John Farnham's talent in portraying emotion in his songs stems from his early experience in stage musicals. He is one of the greatest male stage musical singers of all time.
It is never a bad idea to listen to John Farnham banter on stage. His banter is just as entertaining as his singing!
Poor John, get well mate, Australia is behind you mate.
I heard he’s much better now(?)
He just announced that he’s cancer-free! ❤
@@shmick6079 Let's hope so, he is an Aussie national treasure with the best voice in the world by far. Go Farnsey......
@@hearmymotoredheart That's great news, we in Oz just love him......
Always a good day when Nina's reacting to John Farnham! Thank you!
I seem to have the utmost respect for Nina's comments! She really hones in on some things that I frankly have missed so it makes me appreciate the voice of a lifetime even more. Please keep going with more of this genius' songs, Nina ❤️
I love both John's versions aswell as Cold Chisel's versions, both are fantastic and each have unique dynamics.
especially Chisel's paired back live performance from 2003. Its a Mossy masterclass.
@@uknowispeaksense7056 agreed, great performance in that one. The dynamic between Mossy and Barnsey works so well. And John's power and emotion in this one is also great.
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I'm so glad this man's voice now known around the world. He is by far the greatest live performer I have ever seen or listen to!!!
His whole band are awesome, and were with him for years
Thank you for your great reaction and appreciation of our Aussie legend, John Farnham! I’ve always know John is a phenomenal singer and performer, along with his awesome band of the best musicians. Thank you for contributing to my understanding of just why John is so magnificent!❤ 🎶
The song was written by Stephen Preswich, the former drummer of Cold Chisel and was up there in Australian Psyche . John of course just waltzes of with it, and the rest is history.
Chong Lim is John's pianist in this performance. Chong is a brilliant pianist who has worked with Olivia Newton-John, Tom Jones and Kylie Minogue to name a few, he is a producer and musical director. Brett Garsed is on guitar, we have some really amazing musicians in Australia.....
This clip was from 2003 when John was 54. His voice was probably even better than it was 20 years earlier. When the War is Over was written by Steve Prestwich, the drummer from beloved Australian band Cold Chisel. It's worth listening to the original, as it has a different feel again ❤
I agree overall, but the final chorus belt here is unmatched by anything even Jimmy put out, imo.
I always prefer chisels version as it was first for me..
John is amazing but it was never a favourite of mine because of my love of chisel
Cold Chisel are renowned for experimenting with different chord progressions and also song structures, such as having the chorus at the end of the song or no chorus at all, as in the song Khe Sanh. Brilliant song and John’s voice is so well suited to it!
The chorus for Khe Sanh is the last “verse”: “last plane out of Sydney…”
However, I should double-check this.
@@Bazza1025b you absolutely should!!
@@Bazza1025b
“Khe Sanh has no chorus. It uses a song structure that is less common in the modern era known as one-part - or AAA - form. One-part refers to the fact that one musical idea is repeated throughout the song, and AAA is a more technical form of song structure analysis where sections of music are assigned letters, with different letters for different sections. AAA, clearly, is a situation where all sections use the same musical material. Another commonly used word for the form is strophic”. (The conversation, 2015).
@@Dr_KAP For the life of me, I can’t recall where I heard that Khe Sanh has a chorus. I’ve checked two books with musical notation; Don’s book of his lyrics, Songs; a poster in Don’s handwriting of the lyrics; Michael Lawrence’s self-published book Showtime, which reprints lyrics from the demo; and Debbie Kruger’s book Songwriters Speak. So I concede.
@Dr_KAP 👍
This song has so much meaning to Australians, his live performances of this song over the years have been nothing short of musical heaven.
Strange that i have never heard of this guy ,what an incredible voice.
I guess you may have googled John Farnham, or searched for him/play mixes on youtube by now? Powerhouse voice but always with emotion. His live performances are out of this world. It's my eternal regret that I never saw him live - but the concert videos on RUclips are a good substitute. Enjoy.! Mch'24. UK. E ❤
@@user-iq3mp5zo8z yes thank you i amn hooked now have his greatest hits cd.
John’s power at what feels so high in the register is amazing, then he holds it, continues and goes up again with the same or more power. In this case to a song already performed by great singers.
Best cover of this song I’ve ever heard… 💯
"When the War is Over" is a metaphor. It's about picking up the pieces and getting back on your feet after a relationship breakup.
Really?
@@carbine5378one month later... On the surface level, the songs words inform the listener of the damage caused by conflict. Though the underlying allusion is to relationship conflict. Or 'Love Stinks!' - (Robbie Hart).
Thank you Nina for your great reaction and technical appreciation of our phenomenal Aussie treasure, John Farnham! Like many Australians, I have loved John and his incredible band for over 50 years. Thank you for helping me to understand why they are just So Awesome. John Farnham's music continues to lift my spirits every day. 🥰❤🎶🎵
This is what, your third reaction to him? You’ve really become a huge fan! Can’t blame you!
So happy you like John Farnham 😝👍 He is a Australian Icon 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
The guitarist is Brett Garsed. You’ll see him with John again and again
I think this song can have a couple of meanings, I have seen other comments that this can be about War but also about relationships. Others with more knowledge will correct me if I am wrong. Thanks for a great reaction once again. Ohh Kasey Chambers "Lose Yourself".
Yes, I heard it was written by a divorce, not war.
Excellent review, Nina. John is a living legend in OZ and counts among his fan base Tom Jones and Celine Dion, both of whom are among the greatest popular vocalist of all time.
When The War Is Over originally a Cold Chisel top 30 hit single from 1982 in Australia. Well Cold Chisel broke up in 1984 but this songs writer drummer the late Steve Prestwich joined Little River Band straight after .
John Farnham was the lead singer of LRB at that moment in time .
Like John Steve wouldn’t have had made any money out being a member of LRB , LRB was in financial trouble from high cost of touring the USA left only the songwriters got paid . So Steve offered up When The War Is Over to be re-recorded after it was added to their set list for the Playing To Win Tour .
LRB recorded it for their last album with John Farnham No Reins 1986 , No Reins was also Steven Prestwich last album with LRB both men left LRB before the album was released.
LRB’s former record company capital records only released When The War Is Over as single to cash in on John’s solo success with You’re The Voice .
John recorded it again in 1988 as solo artist after his recording company requested it to be a bonus track and b side for Age Of Reason era . John said about the rerecording that he felt he was happy to leave it with LRB and he was hesitant reluctant about re-recording it again .
But the recording company talked him around , John has said When The War Is Over is one of favourite songs .
The song did pop up on his set list on some of John’s tours.
Original Little River Band founding member Graham Goble regards When The War Is Over is LRB best song that wasn’t written by himself .
Hi Nina,you also have a great appreciation of the best vocalist I have heard live!John is a legend in Australia,His range and control are of the charts!We all pray🙏🏻John will be ok..We love him❤️
I'm a massive metal head but this song touches my soul especially this version of it. You absolutely need to see Cold chisel do this live
John's vocals seem metal to me - power & passion
I second that. I''ve loved Farnham since Whispering Jack, but IMO the Chisel version of this song is untouchable.
He is such a shining light .. so gifted, so committed to his craft, so immense d in the emotion and watching each of his individual songs is like being bathed in some kind of godly or angelic energy !!
HI Nina the song is actually about a relationship breakdown as opposed to a thing about a returned solder. Yes I always thought it was a return solder too.
So good Nina, and much love for calling out the guitarist it was a very sweet run, worthy of praise for sure.
I agree, he's a brilliant complement to the Franham experience. Apart from his solos, I listen to him in the background marrying the voice of his guitar so brilliantly into the emotion and musical depth of the song.
This song is about the break up of a relationship. John Farnham is a very versatile singer with a wonderful skill of vocal gymnastics. Please listen to and view an a cappela version by John and his band of Stevie Wonder's, 'Love's In Need'. It is heart-wrenchingly beautiful !
Yesss! Love's in Need is also brilliant! Love it.
At 3:22, I just LOVE the audience member who literally EXPLODES out of their seat with arms raised like * !!! HALLELUJAH !!! * . LOL.
This should be the song for Ukraine 🇺🇦🥺😢…..it so well described the heart break ❤️🩹….need a really good Ukrainian singer to take this on!👍🏾
Sing it at Eurovision and they'll win (again).
Farhan gives me chills.
What a performer.
To imagine, John gave away his job as an apprentice Plumber for this !!
Please do burn for you live by John ❤ so good
Yep, 1 of the 16,000+ people there … he loves to chat to the audience between songs, he has been performing since the 60s. Sort of miss when he use to perform to audiences of 2,000 odd, but the atmosphere in the tennis centre is unbelievable 😮
and Brett Garsed's telecaster riffs and fills are beautiful.. His driving force into playing guitar was Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
A little more attention to the vocals and less on the piano chords maybe. John's performance here is incredible. His voice is truly amazing and the song is beautiful.
Yes, I agree. I find some of the reactions here a bit frustrating to watch, as the songs get interrupted right in the middle of the most passionate part, or right at the release after a buildup, to try to work out the piano chords. I get wanting to understand the piece of music, but I think it's possible to be more careful about where you choose to pause a song, or at least rewind it and re-listen to the bit that was interrupted so it flows a bit better. The result of not doing this makes some of these reactions feel a bit choppy and unsatisfying to watch.
When The War Is Over is a fantastic song, but if I'm watching a reaction to John Farnham, I at least want there to be some focus on the singing.
@@Saan42 Well said👍
Yes, and no. I'm kind of with you, unnecessary interruptions to satisfy her own musical curiosity that leave us suspended in mid-air while she does it; but most times her expert musical knowledge helped me to more fully appreciate the intricacy/intimacy of the musical voice that brilliantly transports the Farnham voice and his storytelling to that special place we enjoy. Her superfluous engagements about her dog and this and that whilst laughing at her own quips was irritating but hey, it's her video.
Yes he is one of a kind our true blue Aussie he's voice is out of this world and he doesn't need to over address we love him very very and am 69years old so i have been on he's journey love Australia 😘💙🐨🐨🇦🇺🇦🇺👍🤗
He is truly a loved national hero here. EVERYBODY here wants him to get well soon.
The hot guitarist is Brett Garsed. He’s been with John for most of his tours ❤
Is he the buff RAMBO-looking dude in the tank top in the 'You're The Voice' video?
John had the ability to surround himself with very talented people. Some had already been independently successful, and some became successful after working with John
John will always have the number 1 version of this song 💕
Thank you. I love your explaining of the chord/music structure as well as the vocal critique.
Great review, really enjoyed it
He has so much passion in his voice. So brilliant and yet so humble. Absolutely an Australian legend
Thanks Nina , one of many favourite performances by John. You were so understandably focused on the arrangement, John's vocals seemed kind of lost on you. None the less , this song was a Cold Chisel song, an iconic Aussie band. Might I suggest again, Something is wrong with my baby, a duet between John and Jimmy Barnes (lead singer of Cold Chisel)
I love your Farnsey reactions 🎉🎉
JF is amazing,thanks for sharing,Nina💙💕💙
Great reaction as always Nina, I was surprised that there wasn’t more vocal analysis considering the sheer vocal epicness that was on display from Farnsey here, any chance you could concentrate on the vocals a bit more, particularly with John as he has such a unique voice I’d love to hear a more technical explanation of how he does what he does, thanks Nina.
First few minutes is probably talking about Cold Chisel and giving credit.
Should check out their version.
Live of course, John a great singer but Ian and Jimmy up there too.
You would be surprised at how much Australian talent is on that stage. Behind the guitarist on piano is Chong Lim and like the guitarist is one of our best. John is older here and Lisa, Venetta and Lyndsey his usual backup singers are not there. No one ever leaves him so I would like to know why. John just makes me smile and every now and then I think I can sing like John. Until I look at my husbands face. Our adopted beauty can sing like that and if I sing when she is here. She is saying, no Mumma, just no. Everyone’s a critic but I couldn’t hold a note to save myself. 😂 I love how you react to John. Thank you.
I think I saw Lindsey Field in the clip.
John and his band/back up singers are all brilliant. I think you will find that Lisa was in the audience with her new baby, Vanetta may have retired?. Lyndsay is there, to the right of the stage.
I believe Venetta had retired before this performance. Lindsey was present, as has already been commented on.
Nina mentioned in her introduction that there was some talk before the song, which she was skipping. In that section, John introduces Lisa Edwards, who was in the audience with her new baby. As John said, it would be a bit difficult to sing and breast feed at the same time!
@@maltaylor9753Venetta is still a voice coach on the Gold Coast.
Great old chisels song. John just has this beautiful voice.
At one stage John's seemed to be over. It wasn't until he started singing these 'spiritual' songs that he suddenly was everyone's darling again.
Bear in mind this isn't a young john. He's in his 50's at this point. The 'seasoning' to his vocal and the long practiced technique should not be ignored. It stands testiment to all singers not to over exert and be careless, but to train and practice.
Chong Lim is once of the best arrangers of our time, and John Farnham’s voice is one of a kind. Put them together and they elevate each other. I am privileged to have seen them both together live many times. What you miss is the amazing stage presence and interaction with the audience which is second to none.
Chong (keyboard) is an Aussie legend also! What an amazing composer!
Great reaction to an amazing vocal performance. My favourite thankyou
This song is an a original from Cold Chisel. You should listen to a duo of John and Jimmy Barnes. You will love it.
This song was written by Steve Prestwich, of the band Cold Chisle. They spent time with veterans of WWII and Vietnam. They wrote this song (about WWII) and another about Vietnam.
That's Chong Lim on piano/keys - our little Asian mate and genius and arranger. John has really good mic control. That's brett Garsed on guitar- he simply sent a tape of his playing to somebody and got the job - been with John since the 80s. One of Australia's finest and notice he plays in that Legato style wiyh all yhe notes running together. Lovely ( as I am a guitarist of 55 years playing). BTW you hnow your chops.
Very nice guitar and performance! ❤
Born in Dagenham UK, John Farnham is an absolute national treasure in Australia.
Oh, and he can sing pretty good.
An absolute legend, but most importantly, an approachable genuinely brilliant bloke!
EXCUSE ME ARE YOU TAKEN ?I LOVE HOW YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO THE PIANO, FOUND THE NOTES, AND YOURE REDDI,CEDDY GO..LOVE YOUR TAKE ON THIS SONG..I CAN LISTEN TO YOU ALL DAY LONG. AWESOME COMMENTS YOU HAVE A NATURAL FEEL FOR THE FINER THINGS TO AN ALL IMPORTANT SONG. U R AMAZING..LOVE YOUR VOICE
❤❤🎉🎉John is our most loved and famous singer in Australia and has been for years, u cannot critic him, he is outstanding 😂😂🎉
Brett Garsed on lead guitar is one of the best and highly underrated guitarist I’ve heard. John’s voice in this, even though quite a bit older is epic, powerful, endless range, passion and emotion is amazing. He’s the greatest performer ever, just there for the music, the love, his band members and his fans, always puts everything into every performance.
by drummer Steve Prestwich of Cold Chisel he was also in The Little River Band at the same time as John and they did a cover
such an awesome song by cold Chisel (Australian band) and John performs it magnificently.
Watch him sing this song at his whispering jack concert. Different musical director- Oscar winner David hershfelder. It’s with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. Divine!!
I lost count of the amount of reactions I have watched....and there has been a lot.....but you did something that I have not seen someone else do, and that is pull a tune out of the air and almost play it to key....this one simple act showed me that you are the real deal....I have to admit at the start I was here for your essence and those green eyes,...but you girl, have talent
Love the way he acknowledges soloists 🙂
Just Wonderful !
You wernt here in 88 but i was around when the beatles were inn their prime, what a magic musical world it was. .
SURE you want to hear that guitar again 😉😁 Farnsy or The Voice has this foundational power.
The younger back up singer's mother was 4 months pregnant with her when she danced on John's first hit 1967.
I love this version ❤ and your reaction
❤John is a Australian treasure he is battling thoat cancer at the moment 😢His an absolute magical singer & song writer ❤
John was very close with his backing vocalists. Here is something very special, Vanetta Fields supported by John and Lindsay sharing a great standard, “Amazing Grace” ruclips.net/video/6danLkCJoFI/видео.html
Yes. Nina, you must react to Amazing Grace
He does a beautiful duo with Oliver newton John you'll see the chemistry between them
John and Oliver newton John Don't Ask Me
Excellent!
The greatest and most humble.
Nina, when you asked “who’s that? - referring to guitarist Brett Garsed, I swear you were blushing?? Believe me when I say I do NOT mind! Loving your Farnham reaction vids btw! ❤
Great reaction 😊
Incredible
Would love to see you react to Cold Chisel doing this song on their ‘Ringside’ tour. The most perfect version of a song ever.
"When the war is over" was written by the late Steve Prestwich (who was the drummer in the Little River Band with John at one stage) written when he was in Cold Chisel. It is about the breakdown of Steve's marriage to his wife and how love can turn to 'war' during a relationship breakup, the reminiscing of the good times and having to "start again" once it is over and the sadness that follows. 'War' is used as a metaphor and the meaning of the song is often misconstrued.
Thanks for that.
I get very emotional listening to this song. We were just kids coming home from vietnam and the military, to find that we were not loved by the same person we loved before serving. Our hearts still loved them though and added more fuel to what we now know as PTSD. Many turned to drugs and alcohol to drowned their sorrow. Some committed suicide adding to the torture of surviving a questionable war. We still loved, even though our hearts were fractured.