American Reacts to How One Mass Shooting Changed the UK's Gun Laws Forever
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- So it only took 1 school shooting for the UK to shut it down! I'm obviously an American and this is my very emotional reaction to How One Mass Shooting Changed the UK's Gun Laws Forever. Please let me know your thoughts on guns and not only mass shootings, but school shootings.
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seeing you cry is making me cry man
I’m 42 years old and I’ve never seen a gun other than the very rare armed police officers we have. I’m not patriotic at all but I am hugely grateful to have lived in a country that doesn’t put guns above lives.
the UK has stricter guns laws, which saves lives. putting them in place has been one of the best things our country did in recent times.
I'm 55 and only ever saw guns when visiting other countries. I don't think I've even spotted an armed policeman here, although I imagine if I lived somewhere like London, there would be a higher chance of seeing them around. Yes, we know criminals have guns, but not many of them, and that's because there aren't many guns around in the first place. I'm pretty ashamed of the UK for a lot of it's current political choices, but gun control is one thing I'm extremely grateful for.
Same. I never see guns except for maybe at airports, or if I go to London and pass a government building.
the only guns I have seen anywhere near regularly are sport air rifles since I have been in scouting and my group has two licences firearms instructors as leaders.
i was threatened with a gun in tottenham, london 5 years ago, you maynot see them but they still out there, stay safe
I can’t imagine thinking your right to own a gun is more important than a child’s right to live and to go to school in safety.
You don’t understand Americans. I wish it was that simple. It’s not.
Guns make people safer. Don't like us protecting our lives then move to the uk and get gutted by a methhead
@@Changeiscoming47 It is that simple
@@Changeiscoming47 it really is that simple. There are parts of England that the LAW states still states its legal to kill a Scotsman with a bow & arrow, legit the law has not been updated since it was created hundreds of years ago, but society & times move on. No court in the land would let a man walk free because of a belief system created hundreds of years before they had any clue what those right/laws would evolve in to. The 2nd amendments purpose was so that citizens could bare arms against the government and hold them accountable. When that amendment now allows the legal purpose of guns that werent in existence at the time to mass kill school children, then its pretty obvious that the amendment no longer serves for the betterment of the people or general society, and therefore needs further amendment.
@@louminarty then you should run for office and fix the problem.
I’m an American living in the Uk for 5 years. I never realised until I left that I lived with a constant underlying tension, never knowing when gun violence might occur. At a concert, a sports event, a movie theatre, a grocery store, at work, at school, the train station, on the freeway. After living abroad awhile, I felt a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I could relax in public. I could feel a sense of safety. Every time I return back from a trip to the US, I feel lucky I wasn’t involved in a mass shooting. I cry every time I see another one has happened in the news. It’s so disheartening how the NRA has a stranglehold on the laws and rhetoric about “freedom.” I hope the younger generation changes this. We are 30 years overdue for a major overhaul in gun reform.
Unfortunately it’s too late for America there is to many guns in circulation and if they asked everyone to give them back I just don’t see that many people doing it
Funny enough, all my relatives, coworkers and friends that visited the US have said they always felt an underlying uneasiness in the states. The only exception was in heavily open carry states, which is odd because they were worried about gun crime the whole time but when they saw everyone carrying them casually it made them worry less. I guess it's probably like seeing a military parade where they all have guns that are loaded but you trust the people you don't even know simply because they're trusted to open carry they guns.
@@OnlyGrafting where were they visiting from? Open carry doesn't make me feel better. Look at all the incidents in Texas, which has open carry law. Prime.example being the 376 trained and armed police officers outside the Uvalde school doing nothing to stop the massacre inside. How does that put one at ease?
You being paranoid isn't a reflection on the country
@@fireheart6267 acknowledging the reality of living with mass shootings happening regularly doesn't make me paranoid.
"she and I were on our own, she was my only child." My deepest sympathies for this man, I can't imagine the pain of that day.
It gets worse his wife had died of cancer the previous year
I'm from Australia and it's one thing about this nation I'm proudest of and our Commonwealth brothers did the same.
I think your laws were changed 12 days after the Port Arthur massacre. Since then gun-crime has gone down dramatically.
@@mikefraser4513 It took only 3 months for legislation to pass and yes, gun crime and related homicide and suicide declined by 50 to 60%.
What is laughable are all the Yanks arguing for having guns.
Illegal, legal, gangs blah blah blah.
YOUR KIDS ARE DYING!
Look at the stats. Australia, Japan, UK etc.
I'll eat my hat if there is a zombie apocalypse because that's about the only reason I can see to have an assault rifle. But then I don't live anywhere near Russia.
Oh yeh and how is the dystopian nightmare been going lately since they took your guns ? Now the government treat you like dogs.
@@stephenyoung1484 As apposed to what you muppet? Overthrow the government by force? Good luck with that.
I can’t say I am always proud of my country (UK 🇬🇧), but this is one thing that makes me proud of my country. Proud to be British. Children are more important than guns. It makes me sad to hear about all those shootings in America. I am so sorry about your brother.
I'm an American, now living in the UK (ten + years) One mass shooting created change in the UK and its gun control. The US has had a staggering and heartbreaking record of mass shootings, and yet...nothing has been done.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. At what point will the US realize the insanity of doing nothing and letting these atrocities continue on a repetitive, vicious circle places them as accomplices to these killings?
New subscriber! Thanks for the video!
That quote about insanity is the perfect description of this situation. Eventually the US will realise but at what cost?
The reason is, the US is stuck in a kind of cold civil war, and the side with all the guns don’t want to give them up. This is because ultimately they need to maintain a realistic threat of political violence- they no longer have the numbers to dominate otherwise.
Your second ammendment is what keeps the US free unlike the UK.
@@devilchild8811 Free to die at the hands of a mentally unstable person with an AR-15?
The second amendment was written when you had to load every bullet and tamp the gunpowder. The US population at the time the second amendment had been passed was 4,049,227 compared to the current population of 338,289,857. Taking into consideration that there are more guns than people in the US...Yeah, there is a big problem. Let's not forget this amendment was written after the War of Independence. Bearing arms made sense to secure freedom at the time.
I hate to tell you that the UK enjoys as much if not more freedom than the US. Especially when it comes to women's rights and healthcare. Not to mention, the security that a mass shooting here would be our last fear.
I've been here for over 10 years with dual citizenship,. I'd never move back to the US.
@@micheleosullivan4430 I live in the UK you're full of shit about our freedoms. If you'd choose this shit hole over the US you're a bigger idiot than you sound.
So many people gave up their guns and licenses voluntarily without being asked. It was just something they did as a meaningful gesture of support for the little ones who lost their lives and the mums and dads that lost their children. We were all in shock for such a long time, we couldn't believe that it could happen here in Sunny Dunny.
I remember seeing the News programmes about the massive number of firearms being handed in. Scotland is not used to such events, and I am so glad that we live in a country which places more value on our children than on weaponry.
We did not lose the right to own guns we exchanged that right for the right to live in a virtually gun free society - and we do not want to exchange it back.
Tennis player Andy Murray is a Dunblane survivor. He carries an element of “survivor guilt” with him to this day, which weighs heavy on his shoulders. Such a lovely man, hopefully he overcomes his demons one day.
I remember this like it was yesterday. Although not involved I was a serving police officer at the time and a licenced gun owner but like most people, this reduced me to tears. Owning a gun here has never been easy but I welcomed the tightening of those laws and willingly surrendered my own. What I really cannot get my head around is that a supposedly advanced country like the US still consider the right to own a gun more important than the right of innocent people to live safely. Mass shootings are now so common in the US that they barely make the news. Utterly shameful.
@TicketyBoo
I agree wholeheartedly. The United States isn't very good at looking after her citizens; you only have to look at her healthcare industry. You can't fight ill-health with a gun.
In some ways, it's a third-world country.
It was the corruption of the local police that allowed Hamilton to have his guns. The Snowdrop campaign turned out to be as corrupt as the BLM movement were.
Because its guns that target people. 🤷🏻♂️ As a former cop you do realise how easy it is in the UK to obtain an illegal firearm? Odd you don't mention the mass shootings that happen every week in the US with illegal firearms, as are many of the school shootings.
@@Man_v_Cars
TicketyBoo does mention the US school shootings. I quote:
"Mass shootings are now so common in the US that they barely make the news. "
I think everyone is forgetting the Charlie Ebdo mass shooting happened in a country with the strictest gun laws in the world
When millions of people collectively say “never again”, things can change
Never seen a real reaction like yours before. The fact you’re prepared to show your emotions proves to all your viewers you’re a genuine bloke. Good on you.
Thank you for watching and reacting to this. I am so sorry that you lost your brother to gun violence.
I attended Dunblane Primary School. I finished there about 10 years before the massacre. However, my cousin was with Mick North when the police told him that Sophie was dead. Her daughters were also in the school that day. I went to school with the sons of one of the teachers that was shot and the daughters of the teacher that was killed. It was just an horrific day. In a couple of months, it will be the 27th anniversary. I, along with many of my friends, still publicly remember those lost every year. Those children would be in their early 30s now. Some would doubtless have families of their own. One of the many things that was lost that day was the promise of so many lives.
What this film does not mention is that Thomas Hamilton walked into the school that day with sufficient ammunition to kill every human there. It’s strongly suspected that he had intended to walk into a school assembly that happened in a hall right next door to the gym where he ultimately carried out his attack. However, the assembly finished a few minutes before he arrived and he found that hall empty. Had it still been in progress, I dread to think what might have happened.
My heart sinks every time I hear about another mass shooting in the US. I have a friend who is an alum of Marjory Stoneman Douglas. I would much prefer to be in a world where a mass shooting at our former schools was something we did not have in common. I will never understand a country which claims to be free and civilised where the right of a person to own an item that can kill and maim so easily is considered more important than the right of a child to go to school and not get shot to death. It makes zero sense. Do better America!
This is such a meaningful comment, thank you for sharing. You are right about the ammunition - he wanted to end the lives of every child and adult in the school. Thank god we don’t have automatic weapons.
I'm so glad the assembly finished early...
I was an adult living in Scotland then and I remember this day so well. Such a tragic waste of life but well done to all those who got the bill passed so we don’t have these incidents on a regular basis. I pray every time that the USA people have the same outcome and people can go to school, college, churches and dance schools safely
Thanks for this, you write very well.
@@missABR1 Thank you
Sorry for your loss. My sister was murdered by her estranged husband, a licenced gun owner. This was in South Africa back on 1992. I have since immigrated to the UK where I feel so much safer because of the lack of guns about.
I genuinely feel bad for so many Americans who sometimes have to deal with shocking violence. They don't treat guns properly, and the 2nd amendment is one of the causes.
My husband and in-laws all came to the UK from SA, Durban, in the early 00s, escaping the same violence. My husband is extremely reluctant to go back and he says he never wants me to go, even though I really want to. They decided to uproot when an active serial killer murdered their neighbours, so I can understand why he'd never want to go back. He says he never want to live in a place without similar gun laws to the UK
@@bobbiecapewell5333 I can respect that. I've been to America, its a fine place in most aspects, but they're nutty around their guns.
I live in the UK, and have only seen a gun once. An armed officer came to my door when a potential terrorist threat was reported over the road. When I visited the states I was shocked at the number of guns. I even saw guns on sale next to children’s bikes in a store. The answer is clear. With guns effectively banned in the UK, we have barely any gun crime and we feel safe.
Shocked when you mentioned your brother!!! I’m from the UK and struggle to understand why mass shootings have made no change in the US.
I think it is to do with the daily brainwashing that goes on in America. Every morning pledging allegiance to the flag, being made to believe America is the only country with freedom and the bullshit that America is the greatest country in the world. When you force your young to confirm and question nothing you end up with a country of selfish idiots and the minority that see through all that are powerless.
I knew a guy who called the police after he found some revolvers hidden in his dads shed after he died, he said he had hardly put the phone down before around 5 squad cars showed up on the driveway. He said it couldn’t have been more than two minutes. The uk police service takes hand guns extremely seriously.
I have had the. Take 3 days to turn up,used to find loads late 80s early 90s,
fascists
Your initial emotional reaction hit a nerve. I felt a genuine connection with you father to father. When this happened my daughter was the same age as these children and my son a little younger. I remember sitting in my car in a traffic jam sobbing as I listened to the news on the radio. Britain is a small enough country for us all to feel affected. I don't think anyone has ever questioned gun control since then. We were never a gun owning country anyway but certainly we are happy to be that way. I'm deeply sorry for the loss of your brother.
From England, I remember Dunblane, Not only did it change the rules of rimfire guns. The laws regarding air rifles and air pistols were changed. A maximum power of 12ftlb on air rifles, and 6ftlb for air pistols. Any more, it became a firearm. Also if you are caught shooting on any land without written permission, it is classed as armed trespass. BTW. Scots tennis ace, Andy Murray, was nine and a pupil at Dunblane Primary School when the shootings happened 1996. Andy Murray opened up about the Dunblane massacre in a documentary
Restrictions on muzzle energy on air rifles/pistols came into force in 1969, long before Dunblane.
I worked with a guy that survived this, he still really struggles, especially every anniversary. His whole life turned out totally differently to what it might have been, he lost all his friends. I'm so sorry for your loss.
amazing to think that the Tennis player Andy Murrey was at this school during the events he is still affected by it to this day since he only just missed the attack
When he wins he does a tribute with his fingers to the sky, he has never said it but we all understand. Watch
I didn't know this! It must be a lasting trauma for all those who were a part of the tragedy. Poor guy.
Was in the head teacher's office when it happened, I believe.
ruclips.net/video/8CqtBVmyGv8/видео.html Emotional video of Andy becoming Freeman of the City/ Dunblane
Every time people criticise him for being grumpy it makes me furious. He was hiding for his life whilst other children in the school were being slaughtered. He has the right to have whatever demeanour he likes for the rest of his life.
Sorry for your loss.
I remember having a conversation with a US business associate that was telling proudly how she was taking I believe her 9 year daughter to the gun range for the first time to learn how to protect herself. I was a little shocked to say the least. Just no concept of such in the UK.
She will also have active shooter training at school. Taught how to hide under the desk and play dead or escape via a window. Her childhood is one of fear.
I feel sick when I see this plus parents taking their kids to an arms fair as if it were a Lego fair.
I got my 9-year-old a bb gun. He's allowed to shoot targets in the garden when supervised. My biggest concern is that the ammo isn't biodegradable that he could kill his sister. Why does it need to be live ammo to shoot as a hobby? Madness
Apparently you can buy an automatic rifle with the furniture in pink for younger members of the female gender. At this point I usually say "funny old World", but I am not sure anymore. Remember kids "Mr Safety Catch is our friend!"
@@TheArgieH Don't you dare buy those Kinder eggs though!!!
That would be straight up dangerous...
I’m from Scotland (uk)
I was a child living near Dunblane when it happened. I still think about it from time to time.
I’ll never understand how Americans can keep letting mass shootings happen, just because a few men in history decided on what was right for them, in their time 🤦🏻♀️
Sorry to hear about your brother bud ❤
a few rich men who wanted to be in power.
I went to school in Midlothian at the time. I remember that they added locked doors and all adults had to check in and wear a visitor pass after that.
Now every school has 10 foot mesh fences and the only way into any school is through security access,
@@Misssprimmm246 yeah it's crazy now to think that people could just walk off the street and into a school completely unchallenged.
@@andyf4292 The problem isn't just a few rich people back then, it's millions of Americans today who believe that their right to own a gun is more important than anything else, no matter what. No matter how many people die, they will bend over backwards, move goalposts or just plain make excuses over why they have to have their guns, even when said guns directly kill so many people, whether accidentally or intentionally. If someone shot up a maternity ward, I doubt they would change. America often believes itself to be the freest country in the world (however that's defined exactly) and that guns are a symbol of that. Until they understand that guns just lead to more deaths and lead to the violence they feel the need to protect themselves from, nothing will change.
I know I am a random bloke from the comments section but I guarantee your brother would be proud of the person you are, I would be.
Thank you for watching this and I’m truly sorry for your loss 💔
prior to the Dunblane massacre, there was another tragic U.K. mass shooting spree on the 19th August 1987 involving a lone gunman , killing 16 excluding himself and wounding 15 people in the streets of Hungerford in Berkshire, with a semi automatic rifle , shot guns and a pistol. A law change followed banning semi automatic centre-fire rifles and restricting shotguns with magazine capacity of more than two rounds.
@William Tell i agree with the vetting thing but i think handguns should be banned as they are the most common weapons used by criminals because they can be concealed
@William Tell not true you cannot have unlimited capacity, at some point it will get too heavy to carry
@cardiffpicker1 exactly. I've held a fully loaded 10 round semi shotgun. It's not comfortable. 🤣
@@Grover91 used to have a 10+1, used it about four times and sold it, got variation for cz452.
@@joshme3659 Have you been reading the comments here? Cartridge-firing handguns ARE prohibited firearms here on mainland GB, and have been since shortly after the Dunblane massacre. They CAN be owned under Section 7[1] of the firearms Act, but without ammunition. They can be owned AND fired under Section 7[2], but the gun and the ammunition must be stored a one of around a dozen secure location.
I was in primary school when this happened. In the days after every outside school gate was padlocked and the doors leading into the school had code locks installed to give a better barrier to prevent someone just waltzing onto school grounds with a weapon. Over I0 years ago I lived in Killeen Tx, where my husband was stationed at Ft. Hood. I was at home there when Hassan opened fire in the processing centre killing 13 people, I felt the panic when the base was sealed off and the mobile phone signals were disabled incase of setting off a device. I felt the terror of not knowing if my husband, who thankfully had been processed earlier in the day, was alive. And then the feeling of relief the moment he walked through the door. I still lived in Killeen when Sandy hock elementary school shooting happened, and was at the time heavily pregnant. It scared the crap out of me. Shortly after my husband retired from the army and asked me what I wanted to do, say in 🇺🇸 or go home to 🇬🇧 . I said home please, I didn't want to live where I had to ask my daughters friends parents about where their weapon was stored and if it was secure before I would feel safe enough for my child to have a play date with her friends. Getting back to 🇬🇧 and sending my daughter to nursery, the school was locked down tight during school hours, 3 sets of code locked doors just to get into the area where the coats are hung up and 2 more before the classroom. It made me feel much better knowing it is highly unlikely that I am going to lose my child just sending her to school and I can honestly say if we were still in texas I would be scared every moment she was away from me because the parents there have no such guarantee, and you can still just walk straight into the schools there in the killeen school district. 💔
I am a caretaker in a school in the UK. I cannot conceive of what needs to be done to secure a school over in the US. My job is to maintain the security (and obviously general maintenance!) of my site and to guarantee the safety of the children in our care. Surely that is so much more important than any "I like guns!" argument... (I do understand it's more nuanced than that, but let's be honest, that's what it essentially comes down to...)
@@dommorris could not agree more.
What astounds me is the apparent complete lack of fencing and gates, a simple barrier that just prevents people walking onto the school grounds.
Just something to bar impulse or slow down a more prepared attacker.
@@thomasparkin259 Probably some bullshit about how putting fencing around the school to protect students tramples on their second amendment rights to freely shoot kids.
Up until Dunblane, schools had very few barriers. Obviously there was fencing around the playing fields, but we still managed to escape during hockey in the rain. Seriously though, all my memories of school include open access to pupils and staff, to walk straight in, head to the cloakrooms to hang our coats and jackets, store games and gym kit under our pegs and toddle off to our classrooms. My youngest was still in playgroup then; by the time he began infant school, the security was being put in place all over the country. By the time he left school to go to college, it was all electronic key cards, code numbers, and security people. He can't remember a time when it was different.
I have only ever seen guns at airports; to see a British Bobby armed to the teeth is something obscene, to me, although I get why it's deemed necessary. What I cannot understand, and will never understand, is the American belief that carrying a gun is so much more important than the lives destroyed by their use.
Before Dunblane and Hungerford, the biggest threats we faced were the IRA, and their rather nasty habit of leaving bombs in shopping centres, cinemas, theatres, public waste bins, telephone boxes... anywhere with a high chance of murdering possiblity hundreds of people. I think that's one of the reasons why we're so antagonistic regarding guns, and the arrogance shown by influential people like Charlton Heston, Arnie, various politicians. There's a higher standard, and I feel that it's one we try to reach.
The comment at the end is pure genius "Copy what works." A phrase to live your life by.
I am so sorry for your loss ❤ My Son was 4 when this happened, the same age as many of the poor little ones who were killed. I cried for days, every time I saw another headline or something on the news, I cried. My heart broke for the victims, their families, and the lives that were changed forever. I now know that pain after losing my Son when he was 16, not to guns but a reckless driver. The pain of losing a child never fades. I’m just glad I live in the UK, knowing my Daughters and future grandchildren will be safe from this kind of heartbreak x
Hi James, I'm sorry to hear about your brother.
At the time of Dunblane I was a member of a club and was active in shooting (targets) but the guns that would be banned, the whole club had no qualms about signing the petition, yes a couple of members weren't happy about it but they understud that it was the right thing to do, I continued to be a member and I still have my rifles and air pistol, all perfectly legal, I stopped shooting late 2005 but feel ready to take up the sport again.
When Dunblane happened the whole of the UK was shocked, getting rid of the guns wasn't really the thought that bothered anyone, how it could have happened and what could be done to stop it happening again, the simple answer was to get rid of what had made it possible, this cuts everything off at the roots and stops it happening again, yes guns can be owned still in the UK, but they are highly restricted, severe background checks are done for anyone trying to get permission to own a gun of any kind, these checks include medical history checks, current medical checks, any history of criminal activity, driving offences and pretty theft won't stop you getting a licence so long as they are not a regular occurrence and years ago, such as stealing sweets as a child or a minor traffic violation "parking ticket or a few miles per hour over the limit", we all have this at some point and it's accepted as growing up, no one is perfect and we learn from our mistakes, it makes us better people, silly but true, I see lots of Americans on Quora boasting about how we had our guns taken away from us, this isn't true and even if it were it would have been for the right reasons, no one should loose their life because of one foolish action, even British ARU police won't shoot to kill, they also carry kit with them to save the life of the person they have just shot on the rare occasions when it gets that far, British police also have to account for each shot fired, each year the number of shots fired by the police is usually about 4, that is the whole of the British police in total each year 4 rounds, if they take the gun out of the holster they are suspended until the insident has been fully investigated and the officer is seen to be justified in having done so, but more training is given before they can return to active duty, it's a very different culture in the UK, we accept the police officers as there to protect us, we owe them respect for keeping us safe, this arrangement works for us.
If the existing rules had been applied and if the senior police officer responsible for letting Hamilton have his guns had not been so corrupt (I.e. a freemason) Dunblane would not have happened.
Sorry, but if you still have rifles (assuming they are on an FAC) you are not holding them legally as you have not used them for so long!!
@@rogersmith8339 none FAC
You can still have hand guns. They just have to be the required length. Pop a suppressor and a stock or wrist brace on
@@ashscott6068 That is not accurate. The overall length of the gun must be greater than 24 inches/ 60 cm and the barrel over 12 inches/ 30 cm. You cannot convert a "normal" pistol to meet these rules, they have to be made that way. The only semi automatic guns allowed are in 22 rimfire.
Before Dunblane there was Hungerford, where a guy named Michael Ryan went on the rampage. It was after that incident that semi automatic weapons were made illegal. Dunblane was responsible for the banning of handguns.
Semi-automatic weapons are still legal in .22 calibre.
I've been working in and out of Hungerford over the last 4 years: that bastard comes to mind every time I drive down the high street
The guy in Hungerford had an AK47 among other weapons, even killed his own mother. That incident was notable because the nearest police with any sort of firearms were stationed miles away and by the time they got there nothing could be done. The local police literally had no firearms at their station. So the ban on automatic and semi-automatic weapons as well as police responsiveness were two things that came about from this incident.
He also shot a neighbour who had helped him relocate his gun cabinet (the guy lived)
He shot and killed the father of the police officer who had signed his license to possess the semi-automatic guns he used in the rampage.
His rampage was because he had failed to successfully rape the young woman he had been stalking, and had shot her in a panic when she tried to run back to her children. He shot everyone in his path as he tried to burn evidence etc and that included his mother when she tried to reason with him. Total strangers in their cars, an elderly couple sitting down to lunch in their kitchen, a neighbour out mowing his lawn.
I was at college just outside Hungerford - police phoned to say all students and children had to gather in one room block the doors and windows and wait for the police to phone to say we were ok. The worst moment was seeing our college mini bus on TV with bullet holes in it and knowing at least one of our handy men would have been in that van and not knowing what happened to him…..this was long before mobile phones! Later we found Eric had been killed along with 15 other people.
That was a real wake up call. I feel for todays parents in America, who must feel helpless and frightened to wave their kids off every school morning. I'm sorry for your loss too. 🇬🇧
They vote for guns and say things like I will never give up my guns Then cry when their kids get shot
I'm British, but used to live in the States, married to a US teacher... The fear was very real. Every day she went to work, I was worried about what might happen. She just sort of... got on with it, i suppose, but I always had my phone to hand, and every time it rang and it was her, my heart sank through the floor because i was scared it wouldn't be "did you take the dog for a walk" or "do you fancy a beer later?" but " someone's got a gun and i don't know if I'm going to make it."
School shootings are exceedingly rare and are a statistical anomaly on the gun violence scale. In fact, kids are the safest at school than anywhere else, including their own home, as more than 2,000,000 home invasions happen. Kids are more likely to be kidnapped on the way to school than ever being involved in even a school shooting scare.
@@S1D3W1ND3R015 Your BS translates to there would be 2 million or more gun murders in the USA if goobers were not allowed to play fighting man with real guns Grow up
@Harry Briscoe Statistics don't lie, and they are never in your favor. Grow up? Says the person using emotions and fweewing over Statistics logic and data. Never mind the fact that we are talking about a Fing constitutional right here.
So sorry for the loss of your brother. What happened at Dunblane was dreadful. It made a huge impact on people in the UK and I am grateful for those who were instrumental in making those changes to the gun laws here.
@William Tell Sources?
A friend just returned to Australia after 18 months in the USA. Her kids were terrified to attend school there with active shooter drills and discussions about ballistic backpacks
These children were 5 years old, hardly started their lives to be cruelly killed by some mad man, this touched everyone in the UK . RIP to those kids, and hope the parents can find some peace for their loss, i hope you can also find peace for your loss also .
It’s sad but I just read that 64 million babies have been aborted through planned parenthood which comes from eugenics which the gate’s family are deeply involved with now tell me which is the more important right to own firearms or to abort babies.
@@NaysayKen They're cells, and those cells are not more important than born women or children.
@@itsonlysound a fetus is a baby undeveloped not a clump of cells even though you are a clump of cells as an adult and until you die, sorry I value life you would agree and not say such awful evil things like abortion is fine because it’s an inconvenience to an irresponsible person who couldn’t use contraception. Finally you are conceived when the sperm enters the egg and fertilises that’s when you begin not at several months or when your actually born, how disturbing that you say that a fetus is not important well maybe you think so and that millions of potential people got killed because the mother didn’t care enough about herself or her unborn baby, evil.
@@itsonlysound “they’re cells”, so are you mate, that’s what our bodies are made off, cells, and cells are alive.
Just imagine 64 million unwanted, uncared for babies in the world… now that really would be awful
So sorry for your loss. A hard watch for you with your two young children. If watching this changes one person's mind against having a gun, you have helped bring a change.
This video is so weird for me and really made me acknowledge my privilege of living in the UK. I was born after this happened so I've lived in a world where I didn't even see a gun irl until I went on holiday to the US when I was a teenager and I live in one of the posher areas of the countryside so we have several gun ranges nearby (that I only learned of just now after googling it). The UK is far from perfect but I'm very grateful that I never had to worry about guns as a kid or an adult.
Sorry to hear about your brother.
I like that you cried watching this and didn't turn the camera off or walk away, you showed your emotions for all to see, none of this men don't cry BS
I was in primary 7 (11/12 yo) when this happened, about 10 miles away. My dad worked along at the University and raced along with his workmates when they heard. To this day 1996 is the only time i've ever seen my dad cry.
Now you know why the UK don't allow guns. Never ever be a shamed of showing your true feelings. Your only human. It's still heart breaking even today. from 🇬🇧👍👍 an old cockney gal
Actually the UK does allow guns, which planet are you on?
There's loads of guns in the UK, just restrictions on what types, usage and who can own them.
"We should just copy what works"
Simple, but so incredibly true
It can take 12 months to get a gun licence in the UK. It requires criminal record checks, financial checks, checks with your GP, ID checks. You also have to store the weapon in a fireproof gun safe bolted to either the floor or an outside wall. You also need to answer questions as to WHY you need it and should have it.
Here in England, firearms are seen as a privilege and not a right, so after Dunblane, it was much easier to change the law with minimal resistance. The country took the stance of never again, we are done. Hence the gun laws were reformed quickly.
I have never had financial checks and if on my 6th cert, dont need a fireproof safe either,
I have no idea how this ended up in my suggested list, but I thank you for your response to it. My heart goes out to you man. Sending love from the UK.
I am so glad my channel was somehow suggested to you as well. Thanks so much
I was an 8-year-old when this happened. I remember our teacher telling us what had happened just after playtime. My brother was the same age as the children who died.
I'll never forget it, and I'm so glad to be in a country where guns are hard to come by
My Daughter was 4 years old when it happened. The kids walked to school that morning but at end of that school day the playground was full of parents. They also put a buzzer system in all schools after. She got extra hugs that day as well.
Hey dude, I’m sorry for the loss of your brother, I hope one day America sees sense and does something about its laws. Keep safe. 👍
It's ridiculously sad how America has so many shootings.
I'm from Britain, and here police officers have to have a licence to have a pepper spray, let alone a gun (which is why we have far fewer police-gun shootings - I'm not saying we're perfect, though, we're far from it).
I think the minimum America should do with the laws is, "well the Second Amendment was ratified on 15th December, 1791. The fastest known gun [that I could find] had a firing rate of around 20-22 bullets per minute, but the most common (with a 'fast' firing rate) gun shot approximately 7-9 bullets per minute". At least have the Amendment applying to guns that were designed before 1791 and had similar (less) firing rate. I say this being the bare minimum America should do, but I should point out I am completely for removing guns altogether.
I remember my daughter being just a small kid, I lost my job and got an offer to move to the USA for a job that sounded really good… then I checked a little deeper. I ended up not taking the offer for three reasons: health care, cost of education/childcare and gun control. I dig i to my savings for a little longer to make up for the loss of income and found a job in ly own country. My daughter needed braces and here they’d be affordable. My daughter is smart and would want to study on. A mass shooting happened at a school not all that far from where I’d have to move to and I never, EVER wanted her to feel unsafe going to school.
I now work for an international company with a lot of offices in the USA. Our CEO is based in the States. The USA is a great country. I love to visit. But I’m not interested in ever moving there because of my own personal set of priorities. I’ve lived over three continents growing up and as a young woman. I love the USA. But too many things, one of which the gun control issues, just don’t make sense to me.
So sorry to hear about your brother. ❤
In the UK we had Dunblane and in Australia they had Port Arthur. Both countries within a short time completely changed the laws. Seems reasonable and rational.
Point to be made here is, both the UK and Australia have a culture essentially derived from the same origin and that any "incomers" have respected and adopted, ie., we all like living in a cohesive Society. The US is not this and it's the individual who is important, within a FU brother/sister culture.
Andy Murray was at that primary school when it happened and in an interview he is still traumatised by the shooting crying when it was mentioned
I remember this so vividly. As a nation we were heartbroken & devastated & we supported the tighter gun controls. Their wee faces with their teacher who protected them until she couldn't 😢.
You physically cannot walk into a school & take that many lives unless you use a gun. It's common sense.
It's heartbreaking to think USA parents are scared sending their kids to school. Do better America. Love from Scotland.
Great comment. Its something as a nation we probably don't give ourselves enough credit for really. How we all came together and said no, whatever we do we can't let this happen again. The story of that brave teacher is also something that should be more well known, she shielded them. Incredible
Was the guy who did it not reported several times but still issued a gun licence?
@@brumsgrub8633 If only we could come together and say No to all the shit that's happened since.
@@master_Blaster91 Hi, sadly I think you are right about his gun licence
@@brumsgrub8633 we never give ourselves credit for anything. You’re totally right, I had forgotten the news coverage of farmers and ordinary people walking into the police station to give up their handguns voluntarily. I don’t remember one dissenting voice. The images of those small kids smiling from the front pages of the newspaper will stay will me forever.
This has to be the Most Emotional React with by any RUclipsr I have ever seen! Thank you for Being Man enough to show your Emotions! I am so Sorry for the Loss of your Brother! and wish you and your Family a Peaceful and Safe Life! from Across the Pond Much Respect!!
@channel - sorry for the loss of your brother, man. Not enough comments here appreciating your pain watching this.
It's hard watching a grown man get emotional, breaks me down big time.
Respect brother❤️
Everyday in the UK i get to take my kids to school and I can walk away without a single worry, then sometimes il put the news on, it's from the USA and i'll see little body bags and heartbroken parents. I don't know how the parents cope with it, waving goodbye to their kids and hoping that their bulletproof backpack and their lessons in zig zagging will suffice. I think that would break me.
Very sorry for your loss of your brother.
No one should ever have to suffer a sibling being killed by guns, knives or any weapons.
Always try and remember that even on the darkest days, he is looking over you and your family, watching out for you all ❤
Tennis star Andy Murray is from Dunblane, he was 9 when this happened. Charlton Heston was holding up a musket when he made that statement, a gun that fires 1 round per minute, not in the same league as an AR15 which fires 45 per minute.
60 rounds a minute mate with a 30 clip magazine and 100 round magazines can be bought for it
A crucial piece of info regarding that, which I believe you mean to add, is that Andy attended Dunblane Primary School at the time it happened.
@@AD270479 I believe Andy Murray's class was the next one due to use the gymnasium.
Kalthoff repeater was invented in 1630 that held over 20 rounds and fire at a rate of 60/per min. This was way before the 2A was ratified. That's why the 2A says Arms. Not muskets. Arms is non specific to anything that is used defensively or offensively.
@@S1D3W1ND3R015 but wasn't popular nor did it actually fire 60pm because of its many flaws. All the parts were interdependent, if a gear broke or jammed, the whole gun was unusable and only a specialist gunsmith could repair it.
It needed special care powder fouling, or even powder that was slightly wet, could clog it.
Repeatedly firing the weapon created a buildup of powder fouling, making the lever increasingly hard to operate. Not really a good excuse to cite the outdated 2A that was written in ink with a ducks quill! Modern weapons are far more reliable, larger calibre and no civilian should have a weapon primarily used in armed forces for war
I'm sorry for your loss. I am from UK and I remember the heartbreak of Dunblane. It was a huge wake up call for us here. I do understand it's a different culture in your country and we never have carried guns as a rule so in a sense we had a more welcoming attitude to a gun ban. But I do think it's sad a great nation cannot just try
Guns save lives, we don't try because it will kill people, stop judging a entire country based on your uneducated misunderstanding of our crime statistics and gun laws. Please educate yourself because what you are saying will kill people.
I’m so sorry to hear of your loss man. As an older brother myself, I can’t imagine someone stealing me from my brother like that.
Look after yourself man.
I moved to the US and had an American husband many years ago, I couldn't believe how easy it was for him to get a gun which he kept under the couch, it terrified me knowing it was there
It's not easy to get a gun in america and you shouldn't be afraid of an inanimate object, you have some psychological issues you need to work out
So sorry for the loss of your brother to gun crime! Thanks for this reaction, can see it was difficult for you, sending love and strength bro! 💪
Those poor children, well done uk for banning them, the u.s really should take note, you should check out the abberfan disater in the uk, terrible, im sorry to hear about your brother 😢
Sorry for the loss of your beloved brother.
Important video. Thanks for sharing it whist it being difficult to watch. I'm from the UK and I couldn't imagine if guns were everywhere
If guns were everywhere the uk would be a much better place
You can still get guns legally in the UK but it's extremely hard, shotgun licenses for clay pigeon shooting etc. other guns are available through things like range clubs but you're limited to single shot only stuff (not semi auto) literally single shot only.
Very powerful reaction, thank you for sharing with us. And I'm very sorry for your loss. Looking across from the UK, the gun laws in America seem completely crazy to me. I understand that it's a deep part of the culture there, I just hope that over generations the perception changes ✌💙
i also understand why some people NEED guns after watch programms like life below zero guns are needed for food and protection from animals pest control for farmers hell even hand guns have a use in that situation,
gun lobby say "the constitution" i say the right to bear arms IN A WELL REGULATATED MILITIA. not some nut job paranoid who thinks that the USA is going to be overran with zombies
It won’t
Anything Americans don’t agree with is communism apparently
Sad but true
What got me was Desperate Dan.
Desperate Dan was a character in the, "Dandy," a popular children's comic in the UK, a freakishly strong cowboy, who ate cow pies (complete with horns and tail) and lived in Cactusville - a strange combination of Western Frontier town and British Village.
As a cowboy, he carried a gun on his hip for 80 years, delighting generations of children with his antics, and only ever drawing the gun once (he never fired it) after Dunblane, the gun disappeared, never to be seen again.
A lot of connections between shooting and humans, such as basic human shaped targets in competition shooting, also disappeared.
Incredible reaction bro. I wish you and your family a very safe journey through life. 🙌🏻
Every country has their fair share of
disturbed people but only a few put automatic weapons into their hands
I was very touched by your reaction to the video, at the moment here in Britain we do have another problem very similar and that is knife crime. Too many young people think that it's necessary today to carry a knife but the end result is usually the death of another young person.
I could see how moved you were by this video , I wish more of your fellow Americans could see that something has to change .
I haven't seen your videos previously but this video came up on my feed so I thought I'd give it a watch - I'm in the UK and knew a little about Dunblane, though was only a young child when it happened so this provided some additional information I wasn't aware of. Thank you for sharing your insights as someone in the US where the culture around guns is obviously very different, I really hope as time progresses the laws there change to keep you and your fellow Americans safer. My condolences on the loss of your brother ❤️
A very moving reaction. Your friend from the UK.
That shows a really important difference between living in a civilised country and one owned by the corporations.
1 UK - Mass shooting in a school.
2 Shock, revulsion change the law, ban handguns.
3 End of shootings in school.
1 USA - Mass shooting in school.
2 Revulsion, light candles, sing songs
3 Go back to 1.
I’m 72 and when I was a little boy was the first time I heard ONLY IN America ,nothing has changed it’s just plain madness 😢
Very sorry to learn about your brother - what a very painful memory it must be for you and all your family. Gun ownership isn't banned completely in the UK, but you have to have a valid reason for owning one. An old friend of mine lives in the county of Yorkshire and, as a land owner, he is legally obliged to control vermin on said land. This is considered a valid reason for owning a gun, but it is very tightly controlled in terms of how powerful the weapon is, the calibre, where and how securely it is stored. I am the character witness on his gun licence, and he is subject to unannounced inspections by the local police - and they are rigid regarding the rules. He even has to fire from a high chair ( similar to that used by a tennis umpire) so that the bullet goes downwards into the ground, and not horizontally into someone else's property.
This was a very good video - liked and subscribed. All the best to you and to America in this new year.
I was talking to an American who came over and wanted to get a license presuming it will be a "little" more complex and tightly controlled. That surely ability to defend yourself will be good enough...
Boy was she in for a shock. Needless to say she didn't get one..
That was a dark day for Scotland & we'll never forget 💔🏴 I'm so sorry for you & your family loss x
And in USA, there has recently been a case of a six-year-old bringing a loaded gun to school and shooting a teacher.
Your emotions are palpable
Great reaction mate
Love from the UK 🇬🇧
Thank you for making meaningful content like this. This is truly needed.
I'm sorry to hear that you lost your brother in the past...That is very sad news...My care is with you...from the UK
My god my friend, my heart lurched when you revealed your loss. I am so sorry for you. Your heart felt reaction to this video should be a wake up call for others.
Wow, tough to watch. Thank you for being so real with your emotions. So sorry for your loss of a much loved brother. I’m an Australian and am very grateful that our gun laws are as strict as they are. Unfortunately it also took a mass shooting to get the laws changed. ✌🏼Peace ❤
Thanks so much. I just reacted to one of the first news broadcasts tof Port Arthur. It's uploading now. it is short as it isn’t a documentary but I hope you check it out. Im looking for a full length documentary that I can react to that’s not copywritten. I don’t want to react to it then find out i cant upload it.
I’m Scottish and I read the Cullen Report. The Government Enquiry into this. I sat in the Public Library and cried. The absolute wickedness of it. What isn’t widely known is fact that all of the Browning High Power (extended) magazines were loaded in sequence. That’s to say that the first six or so rounds were factory made 9mm full metal jacket. These will operate flawlessly in all semi automatic pistols, next was soft point, semi jacketed rounds and finally pure lead home cast, hand loads on the bottom of the magazine. What was chilling was the fact that every magazine had two bands on different colour electrical tape on the top, and bottom . This was so he could reach quickly into his bag, grab a magazine and know which end went into the pistol. I think he brought six hundred rounds to school that morning. I was 25 in 1996 I still live in Scotland.
This happened very close to me. I have friends that were there on the day, parents of children that survived. I’ve never understood the disconnect in America. The need some have to cling onto guns at all costs. It’s as if their entire self narrative depends on guns.
I was 13 when Dunblane happened! I was in a geography lesson at school and a teacher came running in, switched on the TV and watched it being reported on the lunchtime news! Everyone just sobbed finding out how young the kids were! No social media in those days, twice daily news updates was all we had!
Aye I wis 14 at the time
I remember this
Oh no; I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. To you, your family, but especially to him that everything he had was taken away.
I'm so sorry to hear about your brother mate. Touching reaction to this video, definitely subscribed.
I'm a Brit, when I saw the title of this video, I thought it was going to be about 'The Hungerford Massacre' (a mass shooting involving 16 deaths in 1987 in the town of Hungerford, England).
Thanks for watching and subscribing. I have a reaction to the Hungerford massacre but it has been blocked. I'm hoping it will be unblocked soon. If not then I'll put it out on the Patreon
I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m from the UK and I really, really hope that your gun laws can be changed to get rid of assault weapons at least. Maybe one day…
It's a misconception that guns are banned in the U.K. They're not, but the laws and controls around them make gun crime a rarity. (Technically you could own an Uzi - with the right permits and used only at a shooting club.)
If you can only use it at a registered club you do not own anything.
@@thmsmgnm.4513 Yeah, you need to go back and reread how ownership works.
You can own a poor reflection of an uzi for use at most shooting ranges, a proper uzi not so easy to shoot as not many section 5 ranges.
I remember I was in the final year of my school and my technology teacher was so upset he punched the tv off it's stand in the classroom. I also remember the anger/upset of everyone around me and I lived in middle England (a long way from the event). My dad was incredibly angry/upset and I remember other local people crying and being very upset at the event as this didn't happen in the U.K. - My local region voted overwhelmingly along with the rest of the U.K. to massively restrict gun access. It's one of the few times in my 40 years of life that the nation was overwhelmingly moved to direct the politicians to take immediate action. The political parties knew that feeling was so deep, the people so upset and demanding immediate action that they needed to respond quickly. It still upsets people here very deeply that it happened in the first place and it also upsets me as a father that those children were violently murdered in their classrooms and will never get the chance to live their lives, there's no words for children being murdered.
The only reason the laws became so strict (as opposed to existing laws being properly applied) was because of the closeness to an election. All political parties wanted to be seen to be doing the "best for the people" without thinking of the cost to the nation and the limited effectivity of any measures regarding crime.
@@rogersmith8339 that's a view for sure but not one that is widely subscribed to. What is this cost you mention when it came to tightening gun laws? Although any minor financial cost is of no consequence when it comes to saving the lives of innocent children and citizens. The result of the changes, either way, cannot be sensibly argued since the results are evident. There is no justifiable need for citizens to hold weapons apart from a few edge cases.
@@LeeXRV The cost of the compensation paid out was substantial. I received around £2500 and that was probably below average as I was hardly wealthy at the time and only had a few low value guns. Multiply that by 2 or 3 hundred thousand affected gun owners and you start to see the picture. Had the existing rules been followed and corruption not played a hand, those poor kids from Dunblane would still be alive!
I was also in my last year of school and had gone home early after finishing my lessons. Can vividly remember walking in to find my mum in tears and when I asked what was wrong all she could do was point at the TV. When I realised what had happened I was in shock and disbelief. I agree that the election helped to speed up reforms but they were always going to happen after such a tragedy.
@@charlottehardy822 More lives would have been saved every year if they banned the import or manufacturing cars above a certain performance level and introduced speed control measures into new vehicles to automatically prevent speeding. And maybe limit the power of car you can drive until you have 5 or 10 years clean driving experience. The law changes were not about protecting the public!
Here in UK schools we have fire drills, not active shooter drills. Gun deaths here are a rarity. We also have a lower crime rate in general so the argument that guns keep people safe are spurious.
I have subscribed. I cant tell you what a change it is to see a young man such as yourself displaying such honesty and empathy on a RUclips channel. You have been clearly been very affected by the loss of your Brother and it must have taken courage to have made this. The problem and solution are clear but I fear that your country will never agree to relinquish firearms, and the death toll will continue to rise. Sadly you have to be personally involved in tragedy to fully appreciate how devastating and life changing it is.
Best wishes form the UK 👍
I honestly have no idea how any parent can send their child to school in the US I would be terrified every day xx
People should be more concerned. about sexual assaults by teachers given information that is coming out right now.
I think it's safe now. I heard the teachers will be carrying guns. (Altho that may just be a proposal from some American politician)
@@thmsmgnm.4513 That’s a totally different subject, go and comment about it on a video about the subject. Instead of making inane distracting comments on this one
@@mikefraser4513 That just makes it a more challenging sport
Statistically speaking the UK isn't any safer after the gun confiscation.
The murder rate is basically the same, I guess they just found a quieter way to do it.
In 1996 1.4 per
In 2018 1.2 per, latest number they had.
2011 - 2015 were very good years at average of 0.9, but they were the exception, not the norm. Now it's back up to around 1.2 - 1.3 yearly.
The Australians went through a similar thing at Port Arthur, Tasmania they did exactly the same
So sorry for your loss, I can see how hard it was for you to watch this video. I was 8 when Dunblane happened, and at a primary school just 30 miles away. I remember that most of the parents, including mines, started arriving at our school and pulling us out of our classes. I didn't quite comprehend what had happened or why so many of the parents were crying. It took a while to really sink in. After that they brought in lots of new security measures at our school, like locking the gates and installing secure entry systems.
As a uk citizen we look on with shock and great sadness at what you guys are allowing to happen.
Thank you for making what must have been an incredibly difficult video to make 💚