I totally forgot to mention this in the video, but do not harass anyone involved, if you do you're a scumbag and I want nothing to do with you. I also wanna clarify that I'm not attacking Katie nor the good people in the fandom, I just simply wanted to throw my thoughts out there on this whole thing cause I love Katie's work. I hope Katie's able to move past this and either find joy in making FPE related stuff again or move on to something else. Either way I'll be interested to see what she does next, FPE or not. Despite Katie possibly moving on from FPE, I still like it, and I think people just up and abandoning something they like because the creator doesn't like it anymore is a total twitter move lmao. You're still allowed to like something even if the creator doesn't. Train brainrot will continue as normal, don't worry, this was just a small side quest.
Yes because katie definitely needed some break And of course brainrot will continue always also i believe that there is a fan that is not toxic because i see a cool fanmade fpe like the danger universe
@@zefamadjan9101Not to mention the Over sexualization, Over Protective, Over Idolizing and Over Arguing are always gonna be there, there will always be meat riders who think they don't deserve it like and they think are good like the Griffith fans from Berserk or say the people who do this deserve it like the Pokemon fans when Nintendo and Game Freak literally dmca and take down fan games they think stealing their money but are not when they are free or something
i love the usual >random cool oc story gets popular >internet LOVESS it >internet indulges in it a little "too much" >creator gets literal death threats and demotivation to continue on the project >creator decides to leave definitely my favorite
@@WhyYouLookingHereBoy nah bro Dandy's world creator already got exposed. So... it hasnt even been 3 months since game came out, and creatir is exposed. PFFFFF
How ironic..she releases a fanmade animation about the song called "Basics in Behavior" a song about behaving accordingly or suffering consequences..yet the teacher suffered despite behaving, and the class misbehaving with no consequences.
WRATH /// FIRST 5-1: IN THE WAKE OF POSEIDON LUST /// FIRST 2-1: BRIDGEBURNER GREED /// CLIMAX 4-4: CLAIR DE SOLEIL (i can't control myself, forgive me)
I actually really liked the concept of FPE despite not being too much into the lore or the fandom whatsoever, I saw it as a simple small side gig made by the creator that would get a series and would just be it's own thing, but alas, now I have to miss out on something I was potentially interested in due to the generic twitter user with an IQ below 20 not being able to keep their words and ideas to themselves. It was a good ride for the few months it lasted, at least. I hope Katie decides to come back on the project or make something similar while ignoring the fanbase completely. Some people just don't deserve access to having an opinion or internet access whatsoever.
so real, I can really agree with this, it sucks just to see something you are interested in, and hype up for it, but then some dumbasses that really just can’t leave what they think alone and mention it online ruins what you hyped up for, and turns out the creator doesn’t want to continue because of that specifically.
Me watching chronically online mfs start shipping wars over a vague 2 minute music video animation and tear each other apart (were genuinely and utterly cooked)
I once had a friend who did NSFW of FPE. I ended up dropping them after they tried to send it to Katie herself. It was horrible and disgusting. Luckily they couldn’t get in contact with Katie. But it still haunts me to this day..
Well that’s true, I remember in August some kids where acting like those nostalgia bait yt shorts videos that use the I’m just a freak song in 2022, saying that they wish Baldi was back and not some cringe killer teacher that likes Oreos
I did immediately remember that song but I'm disappointed since kaaatie made that animation bc of basics in behavior not steal it and now she can't hear it the same no more
I first discovered kaatie from her machine girl - Uzumaki animation then became a fan of her amazing works. When she uploads the basic in behavior animation it shock me how fast the video just spawn its own fandom out of nowhere, then countless fanarts just flow into my page everyday. I was proud of her getting more attention for her works but at the same time I can see where this fandom is going to lead by the look of their behaviors. But what concern me more is how fast the life cycle of fandom these years like how kaatie was just another great animator then summoned a whole fandom with an animation and watch it all went sout in a span of few months. I am not saying that fandoms are a bad thing its just that the patterns are just getting more concerningly worse.
@@not_corin5376 I actually really like her machine girl animation, Miller’s the goat and I wanna see more of him lol. I headcanon that he’s a rockstar, he and Xister play in a band with Miller on Guitar and Xister on drums.
Edit: I don’t care if you have a negative opinion of FPE you’re not my intended audience now shoo FPE was bound to crash, The owner was attacked and sent gore The fandom took away the unique style of her video and even remade it with new characters many times, making it no longer as special as it was, basically saying “hey look you know this amazing thing you did? Well we can do it too you’re not special.” The haters brutalised Katie, And Katie got too popular and started throwing in bizarre things that make no sense to the lore she originally created, No one took FPE seriously. Nor handled it with care.
The artstyle thing is actually a double-edged sword for me. You have some points about it, but for me it's like people enjoy this artstyle and try to learn it for their fan arts or animations like it's the point of fan media. So yeah, I half agree with your point about artstyle.
man this sucks I feel really bad for Katie and the sad thing is that she just did it for fun not for views not for clout not for money, only for fun and the passion is really sad to see what the internet can do to people who do things for fun
As somebody in the fandom... this situation just breaks my heart. I'm not surprised that there where toxic people joining, that is practically guaranteed with EVERY FANDOM, but i didn't expect things to be THIS bad. It's miserable for Katie, it's miserable for fans (but mostly Katie), everything is just miserable as of now. I really hope we will be able to come back from this, but at this point, i HEAVILY doubt it. I personally have considered leaving the fandom, but i don't want to leave behind FPE, or Katie yet.
i dont and cant leave the fandom , 2 of my favorite creators from fpe left and now even i cant seem to have motivation to animate or draw since all i wanna draw is fpe but then i gre reminded that fpe is probably gonna fade away... i feel so bad for kaatie :(
I also feel bad for katie because fpe fandom is becoming as toxic as other fandoms like fnaf, undertale, etc and the toxicity reached out even to the creators basically she is not alone here like i said many creators suffer because of the toxic fandom i hope that she is taking a well rest and if she want to make a content unrelated to fpe is fine
FPE didn’t deserve a fandom, it was so good, so inocent (not talking about the gore/lore) that a fandom is the thing that would ruin it and did not deserve it… Edit: stop arguing about my pfp I know that the creator is a pred but I like dw and you cant change that Edit 2: Mama I summoned a fandom
FPE without the Fandom would be like a puppet without strings. Completely free of expectations, and completely free of manipulation. I wish instead of making a whole terrible fandom, the people who liked FPE could've just chatted about it from time to time when it fitted and went on with their "lives".
It’ll be sad to see a series die so early into it’s creation, it’s a shame nowadays that creators have to get a thicker skin and try ignoring that side of the fandom or worse don’t create at all. It’s not fair and must be infuriating to see someone else using you’re creation to make money or get a quick view on a video. I hope things get better whatever Katie decides to do next FPE related or not.
@@sircombat3259 That’s the other thing because it’s on the internet now it’s there forever and there’s no way to go back no matter how many times you delete it or cancel it everyone can control it now.
@@actionman9451 as someone who actually really likes fpe i kinda saw this coming.. is it really a shame that this is happening to her... I can just pray that she will get better and do what she wants.. and maybe create more content about fpe... But thats her desicion not mine... Even so it does hurt my soul well i guess it was good while it lasted... Man.. it is that hard to have a fandom that does'nt do these things😢? Im from colombia so sorry for mistakes.
@@AIZETSU-SHONEN That’s the problem for a fandom when it’s gets popular it then vulnerable to people taking advantage of it to use it for themselves, I hope Katie will feel better soon and be able to move on from these dark times but I think to be honest with you it’s very unlikely that FPE will be able to come back from this because Katie will just be reminded of what that side of the fandom will do to it again. At least there’s one positive here the good side of the fandom can keep FPE alive even if Katie doesn’t.
@@actionman9451 yeah i Guess that's good there is actually some good things on the fandom and also some good aus... I Guess youre right... Honestly i kinda saw it coming... It is sad to see a fandom possibly dyng so fast but... That's how it is..
Yeah FPE Fandom freaky as fuck. Ruined my goat Edward can't read a fanfic without him up to some EDP shenanigans or being reduced to just a another character in a shipping war.
Wasn't a part of fandom but still feel sad, because I just love independent animators If fpe turned into series I probably would be a fan, but this situation removes any chance for it to be series
For once, someone actually got out the message, I didn’t have the courage to tell everyone that the internet in the end, is the internet, and we can’t do anything about it. Yet, that doesn’t mean to not help those that are currently undergoing this. Good video.
Hit the nail on the head. I don’t want people to think they can’t make stuff they’re truly passionate about, I just want people to be aware of what can happen when something gets popular.
(Pin this if you want) So Kaaatie isn't quitting FPE, her friend told us Kaaatie isn't quitting on it, she just wants to spend less time and take a break from FPE, Because kaaatie said she was anxious from the state FPE was in right now and wanted to take a break from it. The 2nd reason is because the time Kaaatie Made FPE she was very interested into it. And now she isn't anymore because she wants to focus on her other OCS and stuff. Hope this helps and you see this! You are a very underrated youtuber and you just earned a Sub. Congrats!
Honestly FPE's fate was sealed the moment it got popular there where simply too many toxic people who came into the fandom and made it into undertale levels of toxic but now i just hope katie can move on from the toxicity she doesnt deserve this
@@dinosaltaccthe undertale was fandom was so so toxic at the peak of popularity, around 2016- 2018 i would say. As far i had seen now days they are a more chill compared to the first years
To everyone saying that it's the baldi's basics fandoms fault: as a *veteran* of the game and fandom, i am utterly disappointed and truly sorry about the fandoms behavior. But please don't go harassing mystman12 because of something he didn't do. Hopefully this comment isn't too confusing for some.
Its honestly pretty crazy how people literally burn up and discard artists like this, not understanding that if you bite the hand that feeds you, you'll starve too Now what will they do now that the creator has left this behind? Reminds me of all the music, animation, etc Tubers I follow ho had to drop something or quit entirely because people couldnt be patient its insane
Except they didn't do much of anything. This is all standard fandom stuff. The problem is it sounds like Katie got overwhelmed with the popularity and expectations. Didn't like the shipping wars and nsfw maybe and decided to throw in the towel. The fandom isn't exactly to blame here nor is Katie tbh. It's just an unfortunate situation. But nowadays you gotta have a tougher skin or ignore the parts you dislike of a fandom. It's been like this since media began tbh. It's just that it's more easy for fans to talk with each other because of the internet.
@@maximumforce8275 Did you miss the part where G-Man mentioned her getting crazy hate/horrible stuff sent to her for the most benign of reasons? I get what you mean about the other stuff, and yeah sure its hard to handle popularity but this is more than just "the fandom went crazy" this is the likes of "wow I dont like this game dev lets e pose where they live online and send death threats" type shit
@@GMan9029 I think he's talking about the section of animation when Oliver part Where Miss circle popped up it show a feature design And I'm not going to elaborate on that
@@Fafaboi oh right, honestly that wasn't really bad. I think it's just the idea of a 9ft tall woman that people go "awooga" over, people have their kinks, a tall woman really isn't the worst imo.
@@GMan9029what makes it worse is that they make her a fictional p3d0 towards Abbie, her victim originally of murder, now a victim of, well, you get the picture.
Prime example is tadc, somehow they are still uploading to this day. But the content farms and threats are just.. depressing. One of the creators of it had to publicly announce that when they tried to do something about it because the fans were addressing it, they got a TON of hate. Its always sad to see this nice things just fade away into the brainrot farms
People needs to understand that this was supposed to be just a fun parody of that Baldi song. Not a indie series or a content farm. If she doesn't wanna make more, then let it go.
I feel really sorry for her. I’ll still like FPE, I’ll still make OCs that I’ll love with all of my heart. I just won’t interact with the fandom much anymore. I’ll always love her and her artstyle, she basically inspired me. I really hope she’s doing ok… I plan on being an indie animator in the future, so I took all of this drama as advice: “Don’t use Twitter, at all.” I really hope that I’ll be able to make something that’ll do her proud
On behalf of the Murder Drones fandom & Doctor Who fandom. This is unfortunate. People need to just learn to sit down for a while and wait for something.
This. This is why we can't have nice things. I'm convinced that half the people on the internet are children in adult skin suits; no one knows what they're doing anymore. They'll throw a tantrum over something they're meant to savor and appreciate. It's like an addiction, but YOU suffer the consequences of their decisions. Great job, internet. I hope she can still find peace in this hellhole, whether with FPE or not.
That’s because they are children. What do you expect from a large following of an indie game from 6 years ago? The only ones that haven’t moved on are kids, or haven’t matured since then
"RAHHHHHHHHHHH GATURTGSGEVTBIURYRR HOW DARE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION FROM ME" I don't really care abt this fandom ngl lol I'm confused on what's even happening
Ok, I've been a fan of Baldi's Basics since the first game came out and I don't hate Fpe for using "Basics in Behavior". I think it's a really good animation and it doesn't deserve hate.
It's just a curse for artist and programer now, if people game/animation end up being famous... it will immediately lead to it downfall in a short time, the prime example ofcrouse would be Undertale and FNAF. Because of this, every animator and programer will have to enchant their mental health with Unbreakable V and Mending if they wanna upload their silly idea on the internet incase it's getting more popular
It breaks my heart seeing this, I'm genuinily sorry for Katie.. What is the freaking world has this world become? All I hope for rn is that Katie will do the things that will help her heal and get her own mental health back on track... I wish her nothing but love and health
saw it yesterday and knew something was wrong when it said fandom. but I'd understand if she wishes to stop, I'll try to check both her X and RUclips for new stuff, and glad you sheded the light on the problems with the internet, but as you said in the video, "The internet does not care who you are, they will still do what they please", something like this at least. it's sad to see something amazing be left behind, but hopefully kaaatie will continue making art, I just love it. and thank you G-Man, again for telling us why this happened. and it's understandable if she chooses to leave or not. Btw I just found you on recommended, but I love that you made this video. have a good day sir.
I've never been big in the FPE fandom. I've seen the video a couple of times, seen some AUs, even played some FPE roblox games. But this is depressing, hopefully this fandom doesn't get murdered by this shit
in my opinion the problem with the fpe fandom was that it got too big too quickly, and the sudden massive influx of opinions and thoughts resulted in its collapse.
Its Honestly Sad as Hell to see one of a Small Artist Who gain Recognition For Their Hard work made out of Love to be Completely Butchered by the trend leeches And make Things Worse, Kaaatie was a Small Artist who just wanted to make a Animation Meme for her Favourite Song, which Means She didn't saw The Fandom Coming and it already Caused Ton of stress for that Poor Artist and it Absolutely Ruined the Song That she loved Having a over time growing Fandom is better than Having a Sudden Fandom I Just Wish for the Better for her
-UMG gets created -People love it -Shitty drama happens -UMG gets ruined by shitty cheaters -UMG gets shut down permanently -SOF gets attention once again -People love it -The community gets gatekeeped by UMG fans -PDF File accusations -FPE gets created -People love it -Shitty drama happens -FPE artist stops working on it Why always the good things made by good people get ruined?
@@GMan9029 yes, but im just saying this from all of the comments i get on my videos about how a fandom has nothing to do with the original media, (but guess who was right me!)
As someone who watched Katie’s things before FPE it’s really sad that things happened the way it did. When I first watched the video I honestly didn’t think much of it and thought it was a really good animation. I knew that things weren’t going to go well the moment I saw it start spreading like wildfire. I hope Katie’s okay :(
As a person who is a part of the fandom since the start... I dislike the baldi fandom because katie "stole" the OG song and now 30% of her dms and comments are death threats from the baldi fandom she revived, it breaks my heart seeing how her own fandom made her depressed... even cosplaying as fpe is uncomfortable because people will either: assume your a r34 artist or a weirdo, mock you and bully you because "baldi is better"
@@AutisticCynFR Baldi’s Basics isn’t even that good imo, I really don’t get the hype around it even still. The songs good but honestly I feel FPE uses it much better imo.
She LITERALLY credit the SONG on her video, What do they mean stole it, why don't just co exist between these fanbase, They act to immature looking at the Title and said, "THEY STOLE IT, ATTACK THEM"
I get why people were pissed that kids now refer to this song as the fpe song, but death threats and the nsfw and everything else is just feral man. It was just a silly animation, and it's a shame since I'm a childhood fan of baldi and a new fan fpe. This will probably never be sorted out properly and I get why, I just hope it was fine/we get an fpe series, we don't get everything we want though do we?
Not only this but the FPE fandom is incredibly toxic and polarized, basically had a huge war between the fans of big artists and some guy who criticized them, and other stupid dramas that were dragged out and polarized into pure oblivion. I love katie's work, animations, art, characters, everything. But the fandom she has around it is way too toxic for me to want to be in it anymore.
Yeah that's why I never really engaged with it, just seemed like way too much BS for animations that a person made for fun. Honestly reminds me of Hazbin Hotel's and Helluva Boss's fandoms.
Fundamental Paper Education Fandom is literally on the life line right now, after a few months there is already alot of drama. The FPE Community has to literally be one of the Fandoms that I have seen might die so quickly.. But.. Lets just hope that doesn't happen.
happens 90% of the time: >someone makes something for fun >it blows up >fandom becomes a little too fandomy >animator gets demotivated >project discontinued >the end
i think you're completely right. it's obviously not great what people have made (especially considering the ages of 90% of the cast) but i agree that it's not good to be doing stuff on the internet if you don't want people to make things of it you probably won't like. like you said, this kind of stuff is inevitable with any kind of media.
It so SUCK how it got down into the kids content rabbit hole, I genuinely love the creativity and effort putting for this But the fanbase is filled with kids, fragile kids And don't get me started on content farm and gooners
yeah i definitely had a bad feeling about the FPE fandom from the start (also because 99% of the FPE fans i've seen are just,, really annoying??), and it didn't help that i did not care about/like FPE in the first place. i saw this coming from a mile away.
While i don't know what FPE is (now i do thanks to this video). It reminds me a lot of how FNAF went through. Except it took 10 years for the whole thing to go from bad to worse, and Scott had no choice but to embrace it. The mess came from what he started even if he didn't want it to, so he has to own up to it. Sad stuff.
Honestly your real as fuck, I've kinda done the same thing with FPE and was interested in it for the same reasons as you Every point you made was 100% true and now im subscribing
Idk man it for some reason reminds me of like mid 2010’s internet, that was such a nostalgic era for me. I think it’s because I remember being obsessed with those FNAF animations by Soproxi (I think that was her name), Katie’s work in general gives off that same vibe imo.
There's really one thing people can't change, people are crazy af and never will listen to you NO MATTER WHAT I also hate when people say it's stealing even though literally it's just the music, the characters were inspired not stolen, shut
I never entered the FPE fandom, but I had been somewhat there since it's first video came out. And I loved it, particularly its style. It was unique, it was amazing. I learned not to go into fandoms get have recently began to get popular, though. Learned that mainly by FNF. Because it's always so painful to watch something so passionate, fun and good wilt away.
I’m still in the welcome home fandom and thank god most of the creeps are gone now. They literally made aus just to sexualize the characters, hell sometimes they just drew straight p0rn of the characters 😭 I’ve noticed this happening a lot in the 2020s, a fandom will get traction get super Uber popular before the creators are ready and then be dropped and forgotten. Think fast fashion but with fandoms 🤔 I’m sorry I didn’t mean to rant I know you didn’t ask 💀
This is why I think when they say “a man can be whatever he’s man enough to be” describes becoming a RUclipsr on RUclips and deciding if you can handle it or not if that’s not for you there is always another option. And yes I know Katie is a her
Wrath, Lust, and Greed this is what really makes us human, but people take it too far, control yourselves, everything is good in moderation just keep it to yourself, yeah?
I totally forgot to mention this in the video, but do not harass anyone involved, if you do you're a scumbag and I want nothing to do with you.
I also wanna clarify that I'm not attacking Katie nor the good people in the fandom, I just simply wanted to throw my thoughts out there on this whole thing cause I love Katie's work. I hope Katie's able to move past this and either find joy in making FPE related stuff again or move on to something else. Either way I'll be interested to see what she does next, FPE or not.
Despite Katie possibly moving on from FPE, I still like it, and I think people just up and abandoning something they like because the creator doesn't like it anymore is a total twitter move lmao. You're still allowed to like something even if the creator doesn't.
Train brainrot will continue as normal, don't worry, this was just a small side quest.
Yes because katie definitely needed some break And of course brainrot will continue always also i believe that there is a fan that is not toxic because i see a cool fanmade fpe like the danger universe
@@zefamadjan9101Not to mention the Over sexualization, Over Protective, Over Idolizing and Over Arguing are always gonna be there, there will always be meat riders who think they don't deserve it like and they think are good like the Griffith fans from Berserk or say the people who do this deserve it like the Pokemon fans when Nintendo and Game Freak literally dmca and take down fan games they think stealing their money but are not when they are free or something
someone also tried to dox her- u forgot to mention
no wonder she gave up fpe
Bro, poppy playtime and rainbow friends and garten of banban are JUST LIKE Fnaf. And now i hate the baldi’s basic’s fandom.
what’s the name of the game in the backround?
i love the usual
>random cool oc story gets popular
>internet LOVESS it
>internet indulges in it a little "too much"
>creator gets literal death threats and demotivation to continue on the project
>creator decides to leave
definitely my favorite
Omg same
That sucks
cough welcome home
I am scared of this happening to dandy's world.
@@WhyYouLookingHereBoy nah bro Dandy's world creator already got exposed. So... it hasnt even been 3 months since game came out, and creatir is exposed. PFFFFF
How ironic..she releases a fanmade animation about the song called "Basics in Behavior" a song about behaving accordingly or suffering consequences..yet the teacher suffered despite behaving, and the class misbehaving with no consequences.
Bro that’s actually a genius way of looking at it!
Exactly, this is messed up
What about that one kid who got absolutely clobbered and then eaten though
I dont think she thought that deep about a title-
this is truly a tragedy:(
The Moral Of The Story…
“We can’t have good things because of Hatred, Lust and Greed.”
Not really, moral of the story imo is make something you’re truly passionate about, but be mindful of the dangers creating something can come with.
Mostly lust
💀
WRATH /// FIRST
5-1: IN THE WAKE OF POSEIDON
LUST /// FIRST
2-1: BRIDGEBURNER
GREED /// CLIMAX
4-4: CLAIR DE SOLEIL
(i can't control myself, forgive me)
I forgive you
I actually really liked the concept of FPE despite not being too much into the lore or the fandom whatsoever, I saw it as a simple small side gig made by the creator that would get a series and would just be it's own thing, but alas, now I have to miss out on something I was potentially interested in due to the generic twitter user with an IQ below 20 not being able to keep their words and ideas to themselves. It was a good ride for the few months it lasted, at least. I hope Katie decides to come back on the project or make something similar while ignoring the fanbase completely. Some people just don't deserve access to having an opinion or internet access whatsoever.
So valid
so real, I can really agree with this, it sucks just to see something you are interested in, and hype up for it, but then some dumbasses that really just can’t leave what they think alone and mention it online ruins what you hyped up for, and turns out the creator doesn’t want to continue because of that specifically.
"i dont wanna play with you anymore"
Real
"Eugh! That makes me sad!"
"NO! ANDYY!!"
"Bye, Woody."
lmao
Maybe in a alternate timeline
The internet is a better place and not a shitshow
Get this. This is probably the best timeline we are ever going to have
We just gotta accept that this timeline is where we are now
@DAHMNYU True, but it's not like we should be happy about all of the stuff that's happening. Rather, we should do what we can to prevent bad things
The only world I could think of that happening is a perfect one. The internet is barbaric and unhinged given to the wrong keyboards.
With the friz? NO WAY!
I can imagine how excited Katie must've felt after the FPE fandom blew up. I can't imagine how sad she was after seeing the fandom go upside down.
Me watching chronically online mfs start shipping wars over a vague 2 minute music video animation and tear each other apart (were genuinely and utterly cooked)
This you? ruclips.net/video/fVfv_lK7vBM/видео.htmlsi=5uKyVW7At-rh1Zjp
been cooked since the internet was made fam
My fandom is worse 😁😁😁
@@comparingwarcrimes I am a murder drones fan, so unless you’re talking about mha or smth I doubt it 😭
@@Grimmmmy-boyMD fan here? does the mental hospital allow internet access then?
The internets' really gotta learn some basics in behavior, Dayum.
Good one xd
say that again
@@mechashark5203that again
DAYYYUUMMM
I once had a friend who did NSFW of FPE. I ended up dropping them after they tried to send it to Katie herself. It was horrible and disgusting. Luckily they couldn’t get in contact with Katie. But it still haunts me to this day..
Katie could be a minor too
Dang I think they are kind of a troublesome one
Guys, please control your nsfw
terrible, truly terrible.
The NSFW is… not that bad (depending on the character and content) BUT SENDING IT TO KATIE WTF 😭😭😭
Not the mention about the Baldis Basics fandom hating the Fpe fandom due to "Stealing the OG Song"
I can't blame them
A lot of people probably don't even know what Baldi Basics is
Im no longer in the Baldi community but dang even I got pissed off from people calling baldi songs "the FPE song" or "Mrs Circle" song.
How I like history repeating itself
Well that’s true, I remember in August some kids where acting like those nostalgia bait yt shorts videos that use the I’m just a freak song in 2022, saying that they wish Baldi was back and not some cringe killer teacher that likes Oreos
I did immediately remember that song but I'm disappointed since kaaatie made that animation bc of basics in behavior not steal it and now she can't hear it the same no more
I first discovered kaatie from her machine girl - Uzumaki animation then became a fan of her amazing works. When she uploads the basic in behavior animation it shock me how fast the video just spawn its own fandom out of nowhere, then countless fanarts just flow into my page everyday. I was proud of her getting more attention for her works but at the same time I can see where this fandom is going to lead by the look of their behaviors. But what concern me more is how fast the life cycle of fandom these years like how kaatie was just another great animator then summoned a whole fandom with an animation and watch it all went sout in a span of few months. I am not saying that fandoms are a bad thing its just that the patterns are just getting more concerningly worse.
@@not_corin5376 I actually really like her machine girl animation, Miller’s the goat and I wanna see more of him lol.
I headcanon that he’s a rockstar, he and Xister play in a band with Miller on Guitar and Xister on drums.
@@GMan9029 I like the way ya think ^v^
Edit: I don’t care if you have a negative opinion of FPE you’re not my intended audience now shoo
FPE was bound to crash,
The owner was attacked and sent gore
The fandom took away the unique style of her video and even remade it with new characters many times, making it no longer as special as it was, basically saying “hey look you know this amazing thing you did? Well we can do it too you’re not special.”
The haters brutalised Katie,
And Katie got too popular and started throwing in bizarre things that make no sense to the lore she originally created,
No one took FPE seriously. Nor handled it with care.
true
Like how people ignored this comment and never took notes. Everyone never take things seriously
@@IdkWithMyLife he right nobody took walking pieces of paper seriously At all especially not me
I mean they’re doing it right now sooo, there’s still a chance
The artstyle thing is actually a double-edged sword for me. You have some points about it, but for me it's like people enjoy this artstyle and try to learn it for their fan arts or animations like it's the point of fan media. So yeah, I half agree with your point about artstyle.
the internet is like a endless war of drama and etc, you arent safe from anything, people are weird, man.
@@davicinderace9500 so true
True
Real
Very true
No shit sherlock
man this sucks I feel really bad for Katie and the sad thing is that she just did it for fun not for views not for clout not for money, only for fun and the passion is really sad to see what the internet can do to people who do things for fun
As somebody in the fandom... this situation just breaks my heart. I'm not surprised that there where toxic people joining, that is practically guaranteed with EVERY FANDOM, but i didn't expect things to be THIS bad. It's miserable for Katie, it's miserable for fans (but mostly Katie), everything is just miserable as of now. I really hope we will be able to come back from this, but at this point, i HEAVILY doubt it. I personally have considered leaving the fandom, but i don't want to leave behind FPE, or Katie yet.
same
SHAUN THE SHEEP!!!!!
I agree
i dont and cant leave the fandom , 2 of my favorite creators from fpe left and now even i cant seem to have motivation to animate or draw since all i wanna draw is fpe but then i gre reminded that fpe is probably gonna fade away... i feel so bad for kaatie :(
I also feel bad for katie because fpe fandom is becoming as toxic as other fandoms like fnaf, undertale, etc and the toxicity reached out even to the creators basically she is not alone here like i said many creators suffer because of the toxic fandom i hope that she is taking a well rest and if she want to make a content unrelated to fpe is fine
The worst one attacking FPE fandom which is a fandom 2x stronger than Katie itself, it’s the dafuqboom fandom and Oren edits’s fandom
I think the undertale fandom chilled down ngl ever since years ago
Point is every fandom has dark side
With the fpe curse porn ship which every fandom is also got that but mostly it's smiling critters porn that i so hated 💀
I mean undertale is fine now
FPE didn’t deserve a fandom, it was so good, so inocent (not talking about the gore/lore) that a fandom is the thing that would ruin it and did not deserve it…
Edit: stop arguing about my pfp I know that the creator is a pred but I like dw and you cant change that
Edit 2: Mama I summoned a fandom
FPE deserves people, but people doesnt deserves FPE.
@@StarZ...0629 Wise words
FPE without the Fandom would be like a puppet without strings. Completely free of expectations, and completely free of manipulation. I wish instead of making a whole terrible fandom, the people who liked FPE could've just chatted about it from time to time when it fitted and went on with their "lives".
That profile picture.
@@StarZ...0629 exactly
It’ll be sad to see a series die so early into it’s creation, it’s a shame nowadays that creators have to get a thicker skin and try ignoring that side of the fandom or worse don’t create at all. It’s not fair and must be infuriating to see someone else using you’re creation to make money or get a quick view on a video. I hope things get better whatever Katie decides to do next FPE related or not.
omfg agreed, I’d worry about the more emotionally vulnerable too ill be honest. honestly one of the most fucked up things about the internet
@@sircombat3259
That’s the other thing because it’s on the internet now it’s there forever and there’s no way to go back no matter how many times you delete it or cancel it everyone can control it now.
@@actionman9451 as someone who actually really likes fpe i kinda saw this coming.. is it really a shame that this is happening to her... I can just pray that she will get better and do what she wants.. and maybe create more content about fpe... But thats her desicion not mine... Even so it does hurt my soul well i guess it was good while it lasted... Man.. it is that hard to have a fandom that does'nt do these things😢? Im from colombia so sorry for mistakes.
@@AIZETSU-SHONEN
That’s the problem for a fandom when it’s gets popular it then vulnerable to people taking advantage of it to use it for themselves, I hope Katie will feel better soon and be able to move on from these dark times but I think to be honest with you it’s very unlikely that FPE will be able to come back from this because Katie will just be reminded of what that side of the fandom will do to it again. At least there’s one positive here the good side of the fandom can keep FPE alive even if Katie doesn’t.
@@actionman9451 yeah i Guess that's good there is actually some good things on the fandom and also some good aus... I Guess youre right... Honestly i kinda saw it coming... It is sad to see a fandom possibly dyng so fast but... That's how it is..
Yeah FPE Fandom freaky as fuck. Ruined my goat Edward can't read a fanfic without him up to some EDP shenanigans or being reduced to just a another character in a shipping war.
@@SwampWater_Syrup real
this shit is LACED
Ao3 fics are crazy, especially Purity.
@@WyvernsFlamewtf is ao3 bruh I'm dying to know
They always making Edward look like the teen Johnyy Sins bro 😢
Wasn't a part of fandom but still feel sad, because I just love independent animators
If fpe turned into series I probably would be a fan, but this situation removes any chance for it to be series
For once, someone actually got out the message, I didn’t have the courage to tell everyone that the internet in the end, is the internet, and we can’t do anything about it. Yet, that doesn’t mean to not help those that are currently undergoing this.
Good video.
Hit the nail on the head.
I don’t want people to think they can’t make stuff they’re truly passionate about, I just want people to be aware of what can happen when something gets popular.
(Pin this if you want) So Kaaatie isn't quitting FPE, her friend told us Kaaatie isn't quitting on it, she just wants to spend less time and take a break from FPE, Because kaaatie said she was anxious from the state FPE was in right now and wanted to take a break from it.
The 2nd reason is because the time Kaaatie Made FPE she was very interested into it. And now she isn't anymore because she wants to focus on her other OCS and stuff.
Hope this helps and you see this! You are a very underrated youtuber and you just earned a Sub. Congrats!
@@KodaGamerEpik I am aware of Edgy’s post but the vibe Katie gave off just made it seem she was truly done with it.
@@GMan9029 I see what you mean by that
yeah i can definitely understand where kaaatie's coming from,, i'd HATE to have people only care about one series and not care about any other videos
Its honestly a shame honestly but i seen fan made AUs and there really good
Danger AU
Wonderland AU
Indeed
they actually were so good
Science au too
And swap au
@@im_not_a_eagle i think i also saw a new au called basics in survival and i think it was creepypasta au
Honestly FPE's fate was sealed the moment it got popular there where simply too many toxic people who came into the fandom and made it into undertale levels of toxic but now i just hope katie can move on from the toxicity she doesnt deserve this
undertale?!!??!
@@dinosaltaccthe undertale was fandom was so so toxic at the peak of popularity, around 2016- 2018 i would say. As far i had seen now days they are a more chill compared to the first years
To everyone saying that it's the baldi's basics fandoms fault: as a *veteran* of the game and fandom, i am utterly disappointed and truly sorry about the fandoms behavior. But please don't go harassing mystman12 because of something he didn't do. Hopefully this comment isn't too confusing for some.
Veteran. You meant to say "veteran".
@@klickonthat5244 thanks for correcting me! Didn't know tbh-
This is just sad to see the random is gonna die out soon. Rest in peace. 2024-2024
It didn't even last a year holy jesus on a panini-
Sadly it will...
"welcome to the internet, we don't give a fu$k."
Hated by 2 communities yet never their fault...
*Fandom
"Never hate who made it, hate their comunity"
-Maybe a phrase by me
Its honestly pretty crazy how people literally burn up and discard artists like this, not understanding that if you bite the hand that feeds you, you'll starve too
Now what will they do now that the creator has left this behind? Reminds me of all the music, animation, etc Tubers I follow ho had to drop something or quit entirely because people couldnt be patient its insane
Except they didn't do much of anything. This is all standard fandom stuff. The problem is it sounds like Katie got overwhelmed with the popularity and expectations. Didn't like the shipping wars and nsfw maybe and decided to throw in the towel. The fandom isn't exactly to blame here nor is Katie tbh. It's just an unfortunate situation. But nowadays you gotta have a tougher skin or ignore the parts you dislike of a fandom. It's been like this since media began tbh. It's just that it's more easy for fans to talk with each other because of the internet.
@@maximumforce8275 Did you miss the part where G-Man mentioned her getting crazy hate/horrible stuff sent to her for the most benign of reasons?
I get what you mean about the other stuff, and yeah sure its hard to handle popularity but this is more than just "the fandom went crazy" this is the likes of "wow I dont like this game dev lets e pose where they live online and send death threats" type shit
It's like the Undertale fandom all over again.
Fr
except about 1/42nd as big
Whats worse with the nsfw stuff is that it all started with one frame of miss circle, like how yall that down bad dawg
@@jacobcabotaje6861 wait fr? What frame?
@@GMan9029 I think he's talking about the section of animation when Oliver part
Where Miss circle popped up it show a feature design And I'm not going to elaborate on that
@@Fafaboi oh right, honestly that wasn't really bad. I think it's just the idea of a 9ft tall woman that people go "awooga" over, people have their kinks, a tall woman really isn't the worst imo.
they go crazy because of big tits y'all fr down bad
@@GMan9029what makes it worse is that they make her a fictional p3d0 towards Abbie, her victim originally of murder, now a victim of, well, you get the picture.
Prime example is tadc, somehow they are still uploading to this day. But the content farms and threats are just.. depressing. One of the creators of it had to publicly announce that when they tried to do something about it because the fans were addressing it, they got a TON of hate. Its always sad to see this nice things just fade away into the brainrot farms
Gedagadigedaiaio 😍😍
People needs to understand that this was supposed to be just a fun parody of that Baldi song. Not a indie series or a content farm.
If she doesn't wanna make more, then let it go.
Yeah we have people making fan content
I feel really sorry for her. I’ll still like FPE, I’ll still make OCs that I’ll love with all of my heart. I just won’t interact with the fandom much anymore. I’ll always love her and her artstyle, she basically inspired me. I really hope she’s doing ok…
I plan on being an indie animator in the future, so I took all of this drama as advice: “Don’t use Twitter, at all.”
I really hope that I’ll be able to make something that’ll do her proud
Based, best of luck!
Sounds great, wish you the best of luck!
On behalf of the Murder Drones fandom & Doctor Who fandom. This is unfortunate. People need to just learn to sit down for a while and wait for something.
This. This is why we can't have nice things. I'm convinced that half the people on the internet are children in adult skin suits; no one knows what they're doing anymore. They'll throw a tantrum over something they're meant to savor and appreciate. It's like an addiction, but YOU suffer the consequences of their decisions. Great job, internet. I hope she can still find peace in this hellhole, whether with FPE or not.
That’s because they are children. What do you expect from a large following of an indie game from 6 years ago? The only ones that haven’t moved on are kids, or haven’t matured since then
@@Swagenstein Fair point actually, didn't consider that
"RAHHHHHHHHHHH GATURTGSGEVTBIURYRR HOW DARE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION FROM ME"
I don't really care abt this fandom ngl lol I'm confused on what's even happening
every dog gotta have its day
now live in your purpose
- kendrick lamar
I just wanted to enjoy fpe and Katie’s creations, I really loved her creations :(
literally any internet fandom trying not to have some sort of big drama challenge (lvl: impossible)
Order of fandom
1. Creator makes animation
2. Animation is born
3. Animation gets popular
4. It's R34ing time
5. Profit
Ok, I've been a fan of Baldi's Basics since the first game came out and I don't hate Fpe for using "Basics in Behavior". I think it's a really good animation and it doesn't deserve hate.
Remember, hate the fandom, not the person who created it.
This is what happens when something gets way too popular and has a fanbase, unfortunately. Its a tale as old as time 💀
It's just a curse for artist and programer now, if people game/animation end up being famous... it will immediately lead to it downfall in a short time, the prime example ofcrouse would be Undertale and FNAF. Because of this, every animator and programer will have to enchant their mental health with Unbreakable V and Mending if they wanna upload their silly idea on the internet incase it's getting more popular
It breaks my heart seeing this, I'm genuinily sorry for Katie.. What is the freaking world has this world become? All I hope for rn is that Katie will do the things that will help her heal and get her own mental health back on track... I wish her nothing but love and health
saw it yesterday and knew something was wrong when it said fandom. but I'd understand if she wishes to stop, I'll try to check both her X and RUclips for new stuff, and glad you sheded the light on the problems with the internet, but as you said in the video, "The internet does not care who you are, they will still do what they please", something like this at least. it's sad to see something amazing be left behind, but hopefully kaaatie will continue making art, I just love it. and thank you G-Man, again for telling us why this happened. and it's understandable if she chooses to leave or not. Btw I just found you on recommended, but I love that you made this video. have a good day sir.
Now i feel bad for Katie now. The creator of FPE didn't deserve to get hate. :(
At times like these, the one thing you could do as a bystander is to equip schadenfreude as your default taunt, and press G at every FPE ragdoll.
I've never been big in the FPE fandom. I've seen the video a couple of times, seen some AUs, even played some FPE roblox games. But this is depressing, hopefully this fandom doesn't get murdered by this shit
in my opinion the problem with the fpe fandom was that it got too big too quickly, and the sudden massive influx of opinions and thoughts resulted in its collapse.
Its Honestly Sad as Hell to see one of a Small Artist Who gain Recognition For Their Hard work made out of Love to be Completely Butchered by the trend leeches
And make Things Worse, Kaaatie was a Small Artist who just wanted to make a Animation Meme for her Favourite Song, which Means She didn't saw The Fandom Coming and it already Caused Ton of stress for that Poor Artist and it Absolutely Ruined the Song That she loved
Having a over time growing Fandom is better than Having a Sudden Fandom
I Just Wish for the Better for her
“It wasn’t for touching kids, was it?” Was my exact thought when i clicked this video
It's disgustingly disappointing that the fandom was this horrible. It's heartbreaking.
2:40 my "non-canon ship" is a nuclear ballistic missile submarine.
Cant get much cooler than that
Dies of peak fiction
EPIC SUBMARINE BATTLE!
@@D9fjg OUR BATTLE SHALL BE LEGENDARY!
-UMG gets created
-People love it
-Shitty drama happens
-UMG gets ruined by shitty cheaters
-UMG gets shut down permanently
-SOF gets attention once again
-People love it
-The community gets gatekeeped by UMG fans
-PDF File accusations
-FPE gets created
-People love it
-Shitty drama happens
-FPE artist stops working on it
Why always the good things made by good people get ruined?
this video needs to be seen more
people on the internet get entitled when their work gets used by others
Speak your truths, the internet is a free for all, thats just the nature of it. My heart goes out to Katie, but i hope Katie can sort things out.
the fandoms should not be targetted for content famers,nsfw and proshippers
Yeah. But internet is internet, cant do anything about it
So the fanbase DOES indirectly influence the creation of things
Well, cant any fanbase do that?
@@GMan9029 yes, but im just saying this from all of the comments i get on my videos about how a fandom has nothing to do with the original media, (but guess who was right me!)
Thats really only if the creator let's it.
As someone who watched Katie’s things before FPE it’s really sad that things happened the way it did. When I first watched the video I honestly didn’t think much of it and thought it was a really good animation. I knew that things weren’t going to go well the moment I saw it start spreading like wildfire. I hope Katie’s okay :(
it had bad vibes from the start, it felt like it was rigged to fail from the start by some ancient deity from above.
As a person who is a part of the fandom since the start...
I dislike the baldi fandom because katie "stole" the OG song and now 30% of her dms and comments are death threats from the baldi fandom she revived, it breaks my heart seeing how her own fandom made her depressed... even cosplaying as fpe is uncomfortable because people will either: assume your a r34 artist or a weirdo, mock you and bully you because "baldi is better"
You're so real for that
@@AutisticCynFR Baldi’s Basics isn’t even that good imo, I really don’t get the hype around it even still. The songs good but honestly I feel FPE uses it much better imo.
She LITERALLY credit the SONG on her video, What do they mean stole it, why don't just co exist between these fanbase, They act to immature looking at the Title and said, "THEY STOLE IT, ATTACK THEM"
@@GMan9029i think because it just A joke game and quite of a rage baiting game
EXACTLY. Baldis basics as a game is alright, but the fandom is a dumpster fire, the songs and soundtrack is goated af though.
I get why people were pissed that kids now refer to this song as the fpe song, but death threats and the nsfw and everything else is just feral man. It was just a silly animation, and it's a shame since I'm a childhood fan of baldi and a new fan fpe. This will probably never be sorted out properly and I get why, I just hope it was fine/we get an fpe series, we don't get everything we want though do we?
1:03 if the owner quits, then it’s bad
👍):
Matpat:
Remember how they said america's a free country sometimes times Most of the time content farms should just not be existent anymore
Not only this but the FPE fandom is incredibly toxic and polarized, basically had a huge war between the fans of big artists and some guy who criticized them, and other stupid dramas that were dragged out and polarized into pure oblivion.
I love katie's work, animations, art, characters, everything. But the fandom she has around it is way too toxic for me to want to be in it anymore.
Yeah that's why I never really engaged with it, just seemed like way too much BS for animations that a person made for fun.
Honestly reminds me of Hazbin Hotel's and Helluva Boss's fandoms.
I like Katie song as well
@@imadegenerate9867You mean Her taste in Songs?
Fundamental Paper Education Fandom is literally on the life line right now, after a few months there is already alot of drama. The FPE Community has to literally be one of the Fandoms that I have seen might die so quickly.. But.. Lets just hope that doesn't happen.
The internet ruined the creator of Flappy Bird's life, and now Kaddie, jeez can a fandom not be horny for once, rule 34 isn't a official rule.
it may not vbe an official rule, but damn, it's true.
happens 90% of the time:
>someone makes something for fun
>it blows up
>fandom becomes a little too fandomy
>animator gets demotivated
>project discontinued
>the end
yeah maybe don't use autistic as an insult???
@@P_araps mbmb
i think you're completely right. it's obviously not great what people have made (especially considering the ages of 90% of the cast) but i agree that it's not good to be doing stuff on the internet if you don't want people to make things of it you probably won't like. like you said, this kind of stuff is inevitable with any kind of media.
My first thoughts when I saw this vid was CSX 1973 the chessie HU in the corner staring in to my soul
Kaatie has been an inspiration of mine for years but this "fandom" was set to fail
i never liked the community since i did sense something was gonna go wrong
It so SUCK how it got down into the kids content rabbit hole, I genuinely love the creativity and effort putting for this
But the fanbase is filled with kids, fragile kids And don't get me started on content farm and gooners
nah fr everything from the gore highschool vibe and age of the target audience gave me a feeling this was gonna be a cringe fandom
And so i am
@@sniffxyfacts, sadly, videos like it just attract weirdos
yeah i definitely had a bad feeling about the FPE fandom from the start (also because 99% of the FPE fans i've seen are just,, really annoying??), and it didn't help that i did not care about/like FPE in the first place. i saw this coming from a mile away.
never heard of it in my life
lowkey looks like paper mario lol
Might be paper Mario 💀👍
If you want, I could explain :D but this videos are more for people who know fpe
@@Serial_Designation_J_Toaster MURDER DRONES FAN DETECTED!!!
@@nitrogen25boron3oxygen5helium9 :3
While i don't know what FPE is (now i do thanks to this video). It reminds me a lot of how FNAF went through.
Except it took 10 years for the whole thing to go from bad to worse, and Scott had no choice but to embrace it.
The mess came from what he started even if he didn't want it to, so he has to own up to it. Sad stuff.
i never met a single fpe fan ever since my friend watched it he was never the same
i ment to type i never met a normal fpe fan mb
Honestly your real as fuck, I've kinda done the same thing with FPE and was interested in it for the same reasons as you
Every point you made was 100% true and now im subscribing
Idk man it for some reason reminds me of like mid 2010’s internet, that was such a nostalgic era for me.
I think it’s because I remember being obsessed with those FNAF animations by Soproxi (I think that was her name), Katie’s work in general gives off that same vibe imo.
@@GMan9029 Fnaf animations? Your an OG man
As Hungry Bones once said there are 4 types of "O's" of a bad fandom and Over protective is one of those...
Dani: ...well...now your one of us...
Matpat: but thats....just a theory...
There's really one thing people can't change, people are crazy af and never will listen to you NO MATTER WHAT
I also hate when people say it's stealing even though literally it's just the music, the characters were inspired not stolen, shut
Ah yes paper people what could go wrong.
South Park in a shellnut
i mean nutshell. i hate autocorrect
@TheCyanCrewmate fpe is the ripoff of South Park but written in a notebook, and there is a girl demon
Reminds me of that one 4chan post where the paper bear girl from Gumball got put in a jar.
I never entered the FPE fandom, but I had been somewhat there since it's first video came out.
And I loved it, particularly its style. It was unique, it was amazing.
I learned not to go into fandoms get have recently began to get popular, though. Learned that mainly by FNF.
Because it's always so painful to watch something so passionate, fun and good wilt away.
The fact that baldi's basics fans hate the fpe fandom but Kaatie is a fan of Baldi's basics. That's why she made fpe
When you make characters with waist structures like that, you have to expect some consequences
All my friends are OBSESSED with FPE and some of them even ship alot of Characters that wont work, DUDE EVEN ONE PERSON CALLS ENGEL HER "BIG BROTHER"
I just got into this fandom and I didn't realize it was all over.
Now wait for danger AU to get the same treatment..
I really liked the FPE. But I tried to stay with the lore, but I kept getting off track with everything and then I just gave up.
Came for the unknown fandom situation, stayed for the OTXO gameplay
Another dying hole of mine seeing a universe that everyone's like but no more content
4:20
Bro im sorry, my jaw went from to my face to on the floor, i know u didn't mean it in a bad way but dang 😭👀😶
"Fandom can't just materialize from a fu*king grain of dust"
Welcome Home 2.0
Hell it even came out around the same time Welcome Home had gotten popular a year ago
I’m still in the welcome home fandom and thank god most of the creeps are gone now. They literally made aus just to sexualize the characters, hell sometimes they just drew straight p0rn of the characters 😭
I’ve noticed this happening a lot in the 2020s, a fandom will get traction get super Uber popular before the creators are ready and then be dropped and forgotten. Think fast fashion but with fandoms 🤔
I’m sorry I didn’t mean to rant I know you didn’t ask 💀
and it’s the fact those are HER OCS
When you think about it, every character is an OC.
@@JohnnyofTheSevenSeas oh yeah
This is why I think when they say “a man can be whatever he’s man enough to be” describes becoming a RUclipsr on RUclips and deciding if you can handle it or not if that’s not for you there is always another option. And yes I know Katie is a her
The internet has made y’all too comfortable being an asshole and not getting punched in the face for it (Mike Tyson I know I changed some things)
The internet is full of wried and terrible people more then good amd nice people
Wrath, Lust, and Greed this is what really makes us human, but people take it too far, control yourselves, everything is good in moderation just keep it to yourself, yeah?
Came for the living tombstone title/music, stayed for the neat n unique art style, left because of the fandom
We can never truly have good things.
Ikr, everyone be making EVERYTHING into a "FaNdOm" and its annoying as fuck. (My opinion/hot takes)
@@Tkykiozzu a whole universe of good cookery ripped away from within our grasp
@@Tkykiozzu how come there isnt a fandom of glasses yet/j
Me who was an og ut fan back in the day: first time?
Fr, they could even make a frying pan fandom 💀