My Top 5 Favorite Spellcasting Systems
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2022
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Magicka might have one of the most fun magic system. Combining several different elements for completely different results is quite amazing.
And personally the one that actually feels the most wizard-y of them all, combining elements to get your desired result? even the set spells, you need to remember the combination yourself, instead of just hotkeying spells, which, as fun and impressive as they might be it really doesn't feel like you're doing it
Agreed, Magicka felt really cool, and had hilarious results.
Two Worlds 2, while an average game, had an amazingly detailed/creative magic system.
Essentially, it was similar to Tyranny's, however it was in 3D.
Choose an element. Choose a modifier. Choose a range-type.
Example:
Force+ Summon anvils +AoE? Well you've just made a forcefield of 20+ anvils spinning around you.
Some of the spells can be quite creative.
High jump spells.
Spells to repel dead things.
Make it rain metal and stone, and then have that debris float around.
As well as typical fire/earth/lightning etc spells.
Again, the game was pretty average (especially the voice acting), but the magic system was downright revolutionary for its time.
While it just had the standard DnD spell slot system, I really liked everything else that Planescape:Torment did with magic. All the lore they had with it, the quest chain you went through to learn magic, while learning about the principles and dangers of practicing magic, the ways you could learn new spells from your companions and the cut scenes that played out when you cast the really powerful spells.
The Tyranny spell system reminds me loosely of the Final Fantasy Type 0 magic system. You choose the element (fire, water, healing, etc) then you choose the targeting method (spread, long range, short range, aoe) and you can mix and match a lot of these for a pretty flexible spell system.
I'm surprised that there is no Two Worlds 2 on the list, but I've searched through your channel and it seems you haven't played it. Definitely check it out.
This game has a magic system like the one in Tyranny, but turned up to 11.
You can craft your own spells from cards you gather and create things such as traps spawning homecoming fireballs which summon skeletons on hit or the all-time classic - anvil rain.
If I remember correctly there are even few utility spells to craft like running on the water and high jumps.
I was going to mention Two Worlds 2 too, I've seen it praised as one of the best magic systems
lol i made a similar comment and then a saw yours. I had so much fun with magic in Two Worlds 2
Alright you talked me into it. I played Two Worlds 2 ages ago but it was just a melee build.
Guess I'm going back, wizard style
Agree. Two Worlds 2 has issues, but the spell casting is amazing.
@@thejake1453 is that a serenity icon?
You should check Arx Fatalis and Two Worlds 2. Both have unique spell systems.
Yeah, although AF is a very old game, its spellcasting is far more engaging than those in most games.
Was going to post the same two games! Good times
Well said. i mentioned Two Worlds 2, but forgot about Arx Fatalis, which had a great magic system as well.
I'm a bit surprised you didn't mentioned Two Worlds 2. The magic system in that game is a bit like Tyranny. You create spells by combining several types of cards (effect, carrier, modifier, etc) and the results are wild. I also think Magicka has a cool magic system. Love you videos man.
I found Tyranny to be a game that I needed to learn and that meant restarting it twice, but I agree that the magic system was pretty neat. It felt more like something that had evolved through experimentation. I wish they'd do another game in that world.
I feel like such a boomer now when it comes to Skyrim. I used to be so in love with it when I was a kid, but now that I’ve gotten into older CRPGs I feel so put off by how shallow Skyrim is (especially the combat)
I am a zoomer and honestly i agree, it's not about age, it's just that older games and crpgs are VERY obscure to my generation, most of us grew up with fps and generally stay in that market
Im with you on that, its still my favourite game and for its time really is a 10/10 but this released before dark souls, witcher 3 and a multitude of gaming landscape altering games.
But tes 6 has taken FAR too long and bethesda really shouldnt have made starfield first
@@sillyninja65 Hard disagree tbh, there have been much better games before Skyrim, which much more in depth systems and story telling, tho I do admit the magic system makes you feel pretty cool
There's better story's, better combat, better systems etc... but honestly no game has given me the combined feeling of exploration, freedom, and wonder like Skyrim did. Nowadays with the mods available, I still go back to it every now and then.
@@izallskilfoo Comoletely disagree, but okay
I have to try Tyranny some day, I have heard great things about it’s magic system being intertwined with the story’s concepts of language and power. It feels like how shouts/thuum should have been in Skyrim (I still enjoyed them) as the descriptions from characters in game indicate it is about understanding words and intent. Yeah the best magic systems make it feel like academic study and give you options to customise your spells.
It’s honestly so enveloping! Great dialogue and tone for the entire ride, amazing and unique world, and lovely companions. The combat is tight and the spell building mechanic is so fun to mix and match eith. 100% recommend playing it… as long as you get it on sale. The ending feels like having a rub pulled out from under you, not in a twist way either.
@@Awe391 That all sounds great, will definitely add it to my growing list of great crpgs I need to play.
Great game, the biggest shame is the fact that we wont have a sequel
it's more than just the magic system that is intertwined with language and words but everything. magic if it existed would be pervasive to all of life if it existed in the world so because words and meanings people give to those to those words influence magic, they then in turn influence everything in some way.
The above basically drives everything, from the story, to the characters, to the setting and it is the reason why tyranny setting is just so good.
Maybe some possible spoilers ahead but what's most interesting about this is that's its the spread of words and meanings among others that truly gives power back to that word or meaning, and is essentially causes a self fulfilling prophecy with a certain category of words. The system is akin to the 40k orcs where red things are fast because the orcs believe red means fast.
@@captainblacktail8137 Well put, words are so important understanding and meaning and seeing a game embraces that both as relatable to our own existence but also grounding the Fantasy elements with it marks a great game. I look forward to delving into this game.
I remember Arx Fatalis casting was cool but hard to do when in combat (thank goodnes you could reserve some spells) and required patches because it would not work on modern systems and modern machines (mostly due to difference between modern and old mouse and displays).
Yea it was hard as hell in combat.
Just a heads up, a huge rework/content mod called Insanity is comming out for Arx next year. This also balances everything from stealth to magic.
@@maz0t I did not know that! It's crazy how games as old as Arx Fatalis still get so much love from the modding community.
@@maz0t This made my day, thx m8! :-)
I love Tyrannys magic system it is sad that no other game ahs taken that to 100. AS for oblivion and skyrim I loved the crafting in both marrowind and oblivion you could make some really powerfull spells but in Skyrim it looked great and felt great not so much on the damage though like you siad.
Two Worlds 2 took it to 100, and it did that before Tyranny came out. Even though Tyranny is still the better game.
I loved the DOS2 system. The interactions between spells compounded with the flexibility provided by a lack of archetypes made for endless creativity. I could, for example, give my glass-cannon rogue wings to avoid environmental effects it was susceptible to. Honestly, it seems far superior to the BG3 system that Larian is now making. Much more action-packed.
Spire of Sorcery (still in Early Access) has a very interesting magic system. The combat plays as a turn-based first-person-view strategy/puzzle type of affair, with your 3 spellcasters each producing different runes which can then be shared between them and slotted into slots for various spells. The spells themselves also mostly elemental type spells and have interesting interactions between themselves. I quite enjoyed it and looking forward to further updates from the game.
Before I even watched the video as soon as I saw the title I was hoping you would mention tyranny. Loved the flexibility and the many variances you could modify it.
I *don't* like survival games at all, but I enjoyed Outwards. The survival aspects are not excessive nor a constant nagging at all. It's a RPG game, with survival aspects that are rather friendly and just add to the immersion.
The spellcasting in Dragon's Dogma is fantastic
Using the Magic Archer was a blast
I love Tyranny's spellcasting system, but wish it had two improvements. The first is being able to click on a spell assigned to a character and see how it was constructed. The second is that there are only so many slots available on the hot bar and not everything can fit in there, so that means some favorite and powerful spells are not going to be so easily accessible.
There was this game, "Lichdom: Battlemage". It was an fps shooter, but you played with a mage and you could create your own spells from aspects of magic. That was a cool spell system.
omg yes! I remember that it had a very cool spellcasting system, but I was never able to finish the game. Later stages were quite hard without a proper setup.
Not an RPG, but there's a fun Zelda-ish adventure game called Mages of Mystralia that's entirely based around spell-crafting as its central mechanic. Throughout the game the player will collect runes that they can attach to their basic spells, modifying them in a wide variety of ways, later gaining "trigger" runes which allow them to make spells that cast other spells. Generally that level of complexity is unnecessary, but there's some fun puzzles that utilize creative use of runes you might not think to combine.
The developer made a few videos showing off some of the system.
ruclips.net/video/XGsbD6sfD3Q/видео.html
Arx Fatalis has an interesting magic system where you have to use specific mouse movements to cast every spell, I hear though that it's frustrating at times in an otherwise great game
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Although it was a bit hard to learn, Arx Fatalis spellcasting remains my favourite to this day.
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That was an interesting idea for a video, and good call on Tyranny being number one. I would throw in the orignal Dungeon Master (1988), It had an interesting rune system where you had to pick several types runes to combine into a spell, like a rune for spell power, one for element like fire, and one for the effect, like an AoE. It's been a while, but I thought it was really interesting, We did derive a magic system from that for our homebrew D20 pen and paper system back in the day.
What larian did about the spell casting in divinity OS 2 was so cool. One of the many reasons they are my favorite games studio (after the fall of CD projekt red)
I've seen it mentioned already but Two Worlds 2 had probably the most interesting system to me. Definitely not the best, I feel it didn't really live up to it's potential, but very interesting for sure. If you've not checked out Two Worlds 2 it could be worth looking at. It's pretty jank but I have fond memories of it.
I loved Two World II. Peoples love to hate that game but I really liked playing. I totally agree with you, the magic system of TW is great. I think Mort should look at that game.
@@Kaynos I liked the game well enough but personally I think the multiplayer stuff was the best parts of the game. Building your village and creating a custom character and running the missions. It was a pretty good game.
Agreed. Was thinking of this one while watching the video.
no mention of two worlds II? It is like the Tyranny spell system but it uses cards that you have to find the environment. Pretty amazing and it works really well.
for Skyrim I found it fairly easy to blast through the entire game with a healing spell on one hand and an enchanted dagger on the other.
I will forever hold "Magicka" in my hearth. Had lot of fun with friends learning spellcasting there
Tyranny’s spell CRAFTING was fantastic, where it fell apart for me is that there was no cost to cast spells, they just had cooldowns. This meant that where as a warrior might unlock a new sword attack, a mage who unlocked say frost spells actually just unlocked a constantly growing number of spells. The end result is that while the warrior used his sword slash and is now sitting around auto attack for almost no damage, a mage is just cycling through his like 20+ spells making him a constant torrent of death and destruction, or healing and buffs, or both. End result was mages were op as hell and even non mages were heavily incentivized to have a number of spells just to fill the downtime between their main attacks
So your issue with the magic in Tyranny, is the non magic warrior. Got it.
if you think tho lore wise makes sense the world is ruled by emodiments of emotions and forces like the archons of war and stone so a concept and a element or kyros who is basically the personification of tyranny like darkseid i think they made magic op because in this world you ether have loads of magic or you are a nobody
In my opinion Skyrim magic system, where you can't create any spell, is one of the worst that i have seen. Morrowind and Oblivion are more flexible and fun than the boring and rigid magic system in Skyrim, despite are a bit old mechanically speaking.
Yea but at least it's not a turn based game 🤢
Skyrim spells are very simple and bland, but the very nature of equipping weapons and spells in whichever hand you want adds a lot to the experience, and if Skyrim had cooler spells, then the it could really make the casting shine
To be fair to skyrim at least it gives a lot of other options than just different elemental attacks. But yeah Oblivion and Morrowind have a lot more depth in what you can do.
I quite like path of exile spell/skill system. The way you slot in skills, modifiers, triggers and additional effects leads to some really intense spell casting effects. A simple "cast a fire arrow" turning into a piercing, chaining, ricocheing, exploding, debuffing and exploding cacophony of destruction that wipes 100 enemies in one cast feels wonderful. I would love to see a similarly customizable and modular modifier system explored in other titles and genres
Personally I much prefer oblivion's spell system than skyrim's. There is so much more freedom with your gameplay.
And then there's Morrowind which makes Oblivions system feel like a straightjacket.
Going further back, daggerfall probably offers even more freedom.
The Elder scrolls series unfortunately has a continuous history of losing features and getting less interesting.
@@jonnywaldis8275 honestly, thr morrowind system lost a lot of it's coolness for me over the years. Spellmaking limit a lot what it can do because all spells had to be either a touch or a bolt.
Agree
SkyUI helps to some extent, letting you save spell sets, but I would still prefer if you could just hold down the number hotkey to equip spell (in offhand, or mainhand if a shield is equipped or another spell is already casting) AND start casting in one action, started by double-tap instead to equip same spell in BOTH hands before casting hold begins (and going back to previous weapons when key is released). Combat Gameplay Overhaul lets you onehand a twohander for spells in the offhand, and Path of Sorcery improves magic damage scaling, but it's still not quite fluid enough. Roleplay is improved with Immersive Spell Learning DESTified but that's more to prevent you "eating" spellbooks.
One thing taht Skyrim has over Morrowind and Oblivion is that your spells and shouts have actual forms and mechaics as opposed to the old system where majority spells were just manipulating a value and attaching it either to a touch or projectile.
Also if you take a hard look at how many spell effects you actually use as spells, you realize pretty quickly that ther eis more illusion of a choice than actual choice. And tyhis is the problem with a lot of older tabletop systems and video games. You might have 100+ spells, but what does iot ever matter when only 10 of them ever truly functioon.
Skyrim's system was a step towards a better direction, it was hampered by spillitinga lot of potential spells into shouts and some bad decisions. It was a shame tyaht they cut spellmaking, but then again making a actually working spellmaking system is hard and while I like spellmaking in Daggerfall/Morrowind/Oblivion, far too often its a gamebreaking tool as opposed to something that should be a part of gameplay.
One of my favorite spell casting systems is the Trails in the Sky duology..Discovering combinations with the orbment system was fun
I love topics like this
When I saw the title I knew tyranny would be your number 1.
I was about to comment about tyranny not making lol but you made it no 1, nice
My favorite spell casting always will be runes from Arx Fatalis. It's so unique and I loved to experement with runes and find new secret spells. A pity nobody try to do it again.
Glad to see an Elder Scrolls game on the list, feel like it's overlooked as a good spell system even if the damage can't keep up in higher levels
I absolutely *adore* the spellcasting system in Two Worlds 2... it's a shame that the rest of the game is just so sub-par that I can't force myself to play it (and I have tried - just so I could enjoy being a mage, but the rest of the game just drains any enjoyment out of that). Still, I'd advise anyone to at least check it out.
Basically how I feel. Put Two Worlds II's spell card system into a much better game and you easily have a 10/10 RPG
I remember playing that game and really enjoying how janky it was, what blew me away was how absolutely massive it was ! I mean it was insanely MASSIVE.
Great video! I am a huge fan of Tyranny's spellcasting system. As others have mentioned you should definitely give Arx Fatalis a try (play the Arx Libertatis port though - as is it common for very old games, a few unofficial patches are required to experience them). You could also give Avencast, RIse of the Mage a try. It's a very small game (I don't think it even qualifies for a AA game) which, while light on the rpg/story elements, it does feature one very interesting and imo very exciting spellcasting system.
If I have to pick a current favorite, it'd be Outward's. I love how it's not essentially just 1 spell = 1 effect. You have to piece together individual spells and/or have the correct requirements to get tangible results, making it actually feel like spellcasting. And skills and spells from different classes can combo well with one another. Plus, the visuals look nice and pretty diverse.
[Some examples:
Equip a torch/lantern > cast Flamethrower > blow fire at enemy.
Bring a Cold Stone > cast Sigil of Ice > cast Mana Push in the sigil > Frost Push takes effect.
If there are nearby human corpses/remains, cast Reveal Soul > cast Spark on a revealed soul > you recover mana.
Cast Dez and Egoth runes > Runic Protection > cast Egoth and Dez runes (in that order) > Runic Protection is consumed and Runic Heal takes effect on you.
Here's a long example. Not exactly a spell procedure but a strategy involving dealing Ethereal damage from different sources/spells. (Also I really didn't have to write this here but I got started and so now it's too late, I'm committing. lol Sorry for the wall of text!):
> Cast Haunting Beat to deploy a Ghost Drum.
-- Ghost Drum applies Haunted hex (which reduces Ethereal resistance) on all enemies within its radius.
> cast Shim and Fal runes to deploy a Runic Trap (which deals Ethereal damage) inside the Ghost Drum's radius
> Cast Mist Boon (which buffs your Ethereal damage and resistance).
> Apply an Ethereal infusion on your weapon using a Spiritual Varnish or the Infuse Mana spell.
-- Ideally, you already have an Ethereal Infusion applied in advance so that you can keep the Mist Boon if you are using Infuse Mana as that spell will consume the Mist Boon.
> Lure enemies to your Runic Trap.
-- Enemies (now with lower Ethereal resistances after entering the Ghost Drum's radius) take damage from the Runic Trap.
> Hit Ghost Drum with a weapon to have it send an Ethereal projectile to all enemies within its radius.
-- Better if you also hit enemies with your weapon at the same time to also deal some physical damage (and Ethereal damage from the infusion), plus more if your weapon also has elemental damage. Hitting enemies will also likely stagger or knock them down if they weren't already, as Runic Trap also deal impact damage.
-- If the fight gets taken outside of the Ghost Drum's radius, enemies affected by the Haunted hex will still be affected.
> Cast Torment to deal Ethereal damage and apply Sapped to all enemies affected by Haunted.
-- Also works if you need to deal damage from a distance for a while.
-- Better if you have cast Jinx to apply other hexes on your enemies before casting Torment.
> Repeat Runic Trap, hitting the Ghost Drum, and Torment as you need.
-- Enemies that got hit by the Ghost Drum's projectile and are within its radius will get hit with Aetherbomb (which also deals Ethereal damage) after several seconds.
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I liked Dragon Dogma's magic as well. Didn't really get to do the massive spells but I was enjoying using supportive spells to help my pawns.
Skyrim's magic got repetitive after a while, but it works fine. A specific thing I liked was the feel of warding against spells. Was not really something I used in my first runs, but I got more fun out of that mechanic when I made a mod that included a custom ward that also affects nearby allies. :D
I've yet to get to Divinity: Original Sin 2 but I've played a good deal of the first one. I enjoyed the magic (and combat) there as well.
I hope one day we will see a Tyranny 2...
I need to try to do a replay of Tyranny at some point, I had forgotten about that system and I think they added in stuff since my original run
Definitely Dragons Dogma, even Two Worlds 2 was alright. It's not just the spells themselves, but the mechanics on jow they're used, equipped, switched between, created, etc.
I have to disagree on Skyrim though. Skyrim had the worst spellcasting in TES series.
I really like Tyranny's spellcasting system. You can combine different sigils into spells and when I played this game I really felt like this powerful mage that is barely able to control magic that he is using.
Tyranny has got to be #1. Its magic system is so good, so thematic, that it easily overshadows everything else.
For me, the all time favourites are Arx Fatalis, where you need to draw runes into the air with your mouse, Dungeon Master where you combined different runes in a semi-logical manner (strength of spell + element + form etc.) and Legend of Grimrock 2 where it's almost like a combination of the two: you draw runes to a 3x3 runegrid where different runes have different meanings ala DM. I really need to play Tyranny as that system sounded very interesting. I wonder why this is the first time I hear about its magic system O.o
I feel like Tyranny plays just like Undecember
when you put runes, linked together to have really crazy effects. I loved that system :)
And it's an action game (even a Diablo like), it's a really good one.
Tyranny and Magicka are peak for me, but Outward is a close second
Also liked spellcrafting in Oblivion & Morrowind, which Skyrim sorely needed
Love the top 5!lists and I agree about Skyrim- makes you feel bad ass
Really nice Top 5 ! i would love you to look at Two Worlds 2 magic system, which is in my opinion in Top 3 of all games there is, and i don't even like that game really but that Magic/Spellcasting system is in my opinion on of in not the best there is. nice video as always :)
Ryzom had a similar way of making your own spells with "bricks", but way less tought out, permissive and interesting. I'd like to see this kind of things more in video games, I've always loved the concept of having a set pool of points to distribute how you want to make your own skills, character builds or even your team. It's also very practical for game design and balance as you mostly need to insure similar effects have similar costs and restrain the most OP combinations (or not) :)
There also are the systems like Arx Fatalis and The Void with drawing sigils with your mouse to cast spells which are a cool concept but very tricky to implement.
Another spellcasting system I like is the one in Magicka, you have to combine elements on the fly while dodging all the chaos and have to make do with a lot of interactions between environmental effects too :D
And let's not forget Path of Exile who expended on FFVII materias in a great way :)
I'd be curious to see your take on the magic in Lichdom Battlemage.
The spellcasting in Magicka series feels pretty good.
It’s so expressive! It puts me in the mind of a scholar mage who has to keep their head cool and remember his knowledge under pressure. Specially considering your spells can easily backfire and kill you if you panic.
Ah, Tyranny. Such an underrated gem, with such a deep magic system. Totally agree.
Lol man I was wondering if tyranny would be on the list. When I think of a game that had cool spellcasting mechanics that one always comes to mind.
Mortismal, you should really try Lichdom battlemage.
Very cool combat/spell system.
It's nice to know that at least some modern games are still following the path of some games from long ago in trying to make a magic system that truly feels like magic. I remember being blown away by Ultima 5 as a kid, and a while later by the magic in Asheron's Call. I don't even know if you can play Asheron's Call any more, and Ultima 5 has aged badly enough that it's hard to recommend even though I love it, but their magic systems were astonishingly deep.
Especially Asheron's Call, with its spell economy. It was a MMORPG, and to encourage magic users to keep their spells secret, the more a spell was used across the entire game with all its players, the weaker it got. Alternatively, if you discovered a spell nobody else knew or used, it would be more powerful than normal, to reward you for delving into the secrets of magic and keeping them, well, secret. The system didn't end up working all that well once people figured out the way spell formulas were coded in game and everybody could know every spell, but in concept it was a really interesting system that made magic feel truly magical and mysterious.
Great list! I recommend Two worlds 2 if you are interested in spell crafting.
I didn't play any other games here apart from Tyranny. And it's spell system is pretty much the best I had in any game as well. I like the power system in the ME series, specially ME3, with the shared cooldown system and your weapon weight producing a longer cooldown. But discovering new stuff in Tyranny was too good!
You should look up for RPG game Two Worlds 2. The game was kinda okey-ish, but the magic system was amazing, the amount of things you could combine to create your own spell can rival the Magicka series games.
Anvil Tornado for the win!
I play Divinity OS2 for the combat, one of my favorite combat systems in any game
You should play an OLD PC game called Sacrifice. If you don't mind some older graphics the game play is amazing. Each level you have to pick a god/Element to follow for that level and each choice gives you a spell. The spells combined with gameplay is a ton of fun. I think the game was ahead of its time.
Was calling Tyranny or Morrowind. Glad Tyranny got 1st spot but surprised Morrowind was not on your list.
Edit : Oh and Two worlds as others have offered has a really great magic system that I would add to the list.
I almost couldn't agree more with your list, Morty :) Only thing I would change is Skyrim WITH MODS to No. 1, [or Dragon's Dogma (if we insist on unmodded games)].
Tyranny had lots of great ideas, and it was a damned shame there never was a second game or at least some sizeable dlc - but hitting the right trainers at the right time, so you didn't lose out on your spellcasting stats was a huuuge pain in the butt. I remember using some sort of cheat mod or savegame editor or something to ameliorate that.
I'm giving Outward another go right now, after your review convinced me that it's worth slogging through the first couple hours or so. Really looking forward to becoming a rune mage :)
The moment I saw the video title I was a 100% sure that Tyranny would be mentioned.
I'm glad not to be disappointed.
everyone is two handed gangsta untill mage has enough lore skill to add both extra projectiles and multiple chain
I knew Tyranny would be number 1. I generally don't like playing spell casters in RPGs, but in Tyranny I always play a spell caster as it's so much fun.
I haven't played Tyranny, but the setting and the spell crafting system are very appealing. I usually don't play spellcasters, but in Tyranny there is a good reason to do so.
I think I'd be interesting with a game that puts more emphasis on different utility spells. Maybe a game where the main challenge is survival or other practical, but seemingly mundane things. Not necessarily the type of gameplay as "modern survival games" (it could be all kinds of gameplay solutions, like text based/choose your adventure). The idea though would be that spells would allow the character to make fire, despite wind and rain, track animals, find water, unlock locks, persuade others, haggle, disinfect wounds, reduce pain, illuminate dark spaces, make make a flower bloom, make people laugh and dance, communicate over distances, read intentions of others, maybe perform rites that bring fertility to land, or curse others. As opposed to being "Tim the Enchanter": ruclips.net/video/aZJZK6rzjns/видео.html&ab_channel=zabakka
I like the spellcasting in Diablo 2 and several Diablo-likes (Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, PoE, Last Epoch, Torchlight 2). With Titan Quest/Grim Dawn being my favorite system.
It's simple, it works well, and it's as complex as you want it to be, ie: just the mouse and a hotkey or two, or so many spells playing feels like playing the piano.
Have you ever played Arx Fatalis?
It's spell crafting system consists of drawing rune "words" on screen from a rune alphabet in order to cast spells. If I remember correctly, you can find words in the world as you play, but you can also experiment by trying different rune combinations on your own. It's a unique system in a great old game. The game can be a bit janky by today's standards, but it would be worth your time to at least check it out sometime if you haven't already!
I've always been a fan of mage in DAO, both in terms of gameplay and lore.
Thank you! Made by a nerd for nerds, love it!
No mention of Morrowind? Neither in the video nor in the comments :( The spell crafting was so dynamic and powerful... Want a Fireball that heals you and makes you levitate, while blasting a group of enemies? You got it. Want to jump over the entire map? You got it. (Just make sure you cast lavitate just before you land, or it wont end well)
On top of my head
1- two worlds II
2- Tyranny
3- oblivion
4- ff7
Have you played The Wheel of Time (1999) by any chance? The magic system in that is very, very fun. It would be great to see a remake one day
Me before watching the video: "I'll be pissed it Tyranny is not on that list."
Me after watching the video: "VINDICATED!"
Two Worlds 2 has the best I've encountered.
Fantastic list! Love Skyrim look for spells but they aren’t potent like Oblivion. I never could figure out Tyranny’s spell system although I plan to give it another shot on play through 2
My favorite spell casting system is unfortunately from a game that can only be played through piracy nowadays, which is the Eldritch rune casting system from Eternal Darkness.
In essence, the spells were just a static shield, a damage bolt, a character buff, and a regen, but combining and enhancing the spells mid combat was incredibly satisfying.
Knew Tyranny was gonna be number one before I clicked! Well, I didn't know, but it's such an obvious choice to me. Great system.
I liked a lot of the combinations you could use in dragon age origin
Why no Arx Fatalis? This gem have really cool rune rune system, when you have to draw symbols with mouse.
Have you heard of Arx Fatalis by any chance? It has a pretty cool cssting system too!
If you like dynamic, involved, and creativity-inspiring casting systems, I HEAVILY recommend Noita. Without exaggeration, anything you can conceptualize is technically possible if you have a wand with the capacity and mana to build and cast the spell.
My Favorite Spellcasting Systems (makes you really feel like a mage).
1. Fictorum
2. Two Worlds II
3. Lichdom Battlemage
I knew Tyranny was going to be on the list before I even clicked on the video. It is pretty interesting system, more RPGs could use something like this, at least as an option.
My all time favorite spell system was in the games Two Worlds and Two Worlds 2
lichdom: battlemage
felt very mage like; and the skill effect and how they stacked as well as endgame charging off big power spells was really nice.
Im a bit late, but Gauntlet: Slayer Addition is a great real-time magic system. Equip a spell book, punch in a specific button combo, and let fly with the magic.
have you tried TES 3: Morrowind spellcasting? you can combine base spells into almost anything.
Ok since you made this video I have to ask what’s ur thoughts on the magic in forspoken.
I’ve played three outta five on this list. And they’re fine.
But my favorite is good old Diablo 2. I like how spells start out small to medium and scale up as you keep putting more points in them, I like the synergies, I like the tree structure where you get access to more powerful magic as you commit to a specialization. And I really like that you have to make hard choices. No master of everything with infinite respec in this game.
4x mage is definitely my favorite party in dos2. And probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite party in dragons dogma (3 sorc, 1 mage).
Crown Trick also has a similar reactive element system to dos2, albeit with not as much depth.
The tyranny spell system is great and looking back shares a lot of similarities with eternal darkness.
what do you think about "Noita"? Reminds me of Tyranny
I have a feeling you would like Noita a lot. You should give it a try
A bit late, but I like the magic system from Two World 2. It's versatile and sometimes funny.... Anvil rain.
My favorite's very basic but it connects to the action theme the game is going for. Kingdoms of Amalur's mage spells are so cool.
They're fun, but the numbers are limited. IIRC I mostly went between dropping meteors from stealth to open a combat to alternating between a 7 or 8 target Mark of Flame and the Lightning Storm ability. With enough mana regen you can infinitely chain those for AoE stuns that keep enemies from acting. Good feeling of power, but in the long run makes combat feel pointless.