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My biggest piece of advice, is use the syllabus and table of contents. This advice seems intuitive but you would be surprised at how many efficiency gains you receive from just looking at the table of contents.
Cold calling does have an impact on final grade. At my school it does! If you have good class participation you can get a bump for class participation and if you aren’t prepared when called on you won’t get the bump. And showing that you’re prepared during your cold calls makes professors remember you and more willing to write letters of recommendations. Cold calls DO matter.
Oh really? That's the first I've heard of a professor or law school having class participation impact a final grade so that's so good to know! What law school do you go to?
Angela Vorpahl yep! I’m not sure how much it really matters, but for Civ Pro everyone who received a bump for class participation got an email from the professor, and I got an email. And plenty of other professors made it clear that if we were called on and unprepared it could negatively impact our grades. I don’t put what school I go to on RUclips because I also have a RUclips channel, so for privacy reasons I don’t say. Sorry! But I do absolutely love your channel. I’ve been binging lol.
Yay! So exciting! It will be here before you know it :) And with that in mind, I run a free FB group for law students and prelaw students looking for clarity and support in their law school journey, would you like the link to join?
Oh gosh, don't worry! Everyone is in their head first year worrying if they're studying the right way and if things are going to work out the way they hope. And I can't imagine it's any easier with everyone being remote on top of everything else. People tend to calm down their 2L year and the feeling of intense competition starts to lower :)
What else is something that you'd like to know heading into law school? OR, if you've already been through law school, what is something every law student NEEDS to know before starting?! Share your questions (or wisdom!) in the comments below! :)
@yang jin Not at all! I'm actually going to come out with a video on law school as a second career track because so many attorneys have done it and I want to show you guys that it's entirely possible! :)
Thank you for your super informative videos! I just deposited for the Fall term to my future law school. I'm excited to be watching and re-watching all your videos, hopefully with a better understanding each time. I'm certain that your channel will be a huge resource for me during my law school career. Hope to see you back soon!
So exciting!!! Law school can be overwhelming but also super interesting and a lot of fun! I can't wait for you to get started! And I'm glad the videos are helpful!!
Im kind of late on this video, but i had a few questions: 1. Can i do both a law review/jurnal and a Clinic/Cort 2. What do you actually do as part of your Clinical experience 3. How do you go about building connections in Law School 4. I was wondering about exams the 1st year is ot mostly IRAC or? And lastly, how do i pick between journals, clinics, and other options of extracurricular? Sorry for the many questions. 😅
That's so exciting that you're looking at applying for next year! I actually run a free FB group for law students and prelaw students. Would you like the link to join? :)
That's so awesome that you found what works for you! I was always a bit wary of commercial outlines because they tend to be fairly generic and aren't tailored to your specific professor's presentation of the information. That being said, using them as a foundational document as a place to start incorporating your class notes, I agree they can be helpful :)
I am about to enter college and the university I'm going to has a Dual degree progra with their law school. I found this really helpful and informative. Definitely gonna come back to this in 4 years 😂😅
Hi Brianna! YES definitely! That one is a big pet project of mine that I want to make progress on SOON so definitely stay posted and thanks so much for the reminder!
As luck would have it, I've actually done videos on both of those topics! Journey from college to law school: ruclips.net/video/LIuMQX1l9hs/видео.html How to take law school exams: ruclips.net/video/lwL36qc7G-0/видео.html
The narrator's point about getting to know your classmates is more important in a so-called "regional" law schools. I attended a Top-Ten-ranked national law school. I knew immediately that I would likely never see any of my classmates again. Hence, I focused purely on grades which is what the better law firms want to see.
Hi Stan! Your comment is so interesting, I would have thought that connections with your classmates would be even more valuable at a T14 law school given that my understanding is that the mentality of the law school is that "all of our students are equally capable and impressive and any legal employer would be happy to have any one of them." :) And that the big draw of going to a T14 law school is actually the network (both with your classmates and alumni). Is that not the case?
@@AngelaVorpahl Hi Angela! The top law schools may think all of their graduates are impressive, but the really good law firms are darn selective. I don't think that Really Good Law Firm gives a hoot if you know Johnny or Suzy. Give me grades (class rank) over buddies, unless mommy and daddy own the firm.
Wanted to clarify something- although cold-calls do not affect grades, it sounds like students are still required to be present should they get called on? Would that be a small attendance grade simply for showing up?
One person has reached out to me to let me know that one professor at their law school gives a grade "bump" or a grade "reduction" for how people perform during cold calls, but the actual amount of that grade increase or decrease has never been communicated to them. My sense is that any professor that tells you that a percentage of your grade is based on cold calls is either just using it as a motivational/scare tactic to get you to prepare, or the grade adjustment is so small I would never base your study strategy around it. Plus, just so we're clear, the study strategy I recommend will absolutely prepare you for cold calls, it just doesn't advocate going overboard such that you are taking precious time away from other study steps to focus exclusively on preparing the readings for class. With respect to attendance, I do think professors actually have the ability to force people to drop their class if they straight up don't show up on a regular basis, but those policies will vary by school and professor. I have never seen or heard of attendance actually factor into a grade bump, though.
Hi, Hatim! I don't have experience with Canadian law schools so I couldn't say, but there are RUclipsrs who are currently going through law school in Canada if you want to get their insight! One of the channels I follow is @lovelynnea: ruclips.net/channel/UChFXqgtNSokLNLYXwHu3AmQfeed.
Do a bar review course before starting law school, learn how to analyze an appellate opinion, get a mentor who knows what is relevant and irrelevant, and most of all know how to take a law school exam.
So.Much.Yes!! When you say a bar review course, do you mean a preview of the courses you take 1L year? If so, did you find that helpful or overwhelming?
@@AngelaVorpahl I am enrolled in the undergraduate programme called the LLB which lasts 4 years. Many students take on internships during term breaks after their first year. The legal requirement however is to complete a 1 year training contract after graduation and pass the bar exam to become a lawyer. :)
Thank you for the great information Angela! I am currently a junior completing my undergraduate degree and am debating whether I should complete my B.A. in either History or Political Science- Politics and Law at my university. Do you think either degree would put me at an advantage when applying to law school or should I just take the safe route and pursue a degree that will give me the highest GPA? I appreciate any feed back you can provide!
To be honest, I would go with the major that excites you and interests you the most because when you talk about you studied/what you majored in later down the road in interviews, it will be evident if you majored in something because you enjoyed it or were just trying to take a path you thought you "should" take, and the former is always the better option. Plus, if you enjoy the subject you have a much better chance of doing well in your classes, and also just generally enjoying life! If you can think of an internship or student organization or volunteer experience that you can do (that also links to the major you've chosen) that's even better because then you can show a more cohesive narrative as to why you chose your major, substantive experiences that you've had in relation to that area, and how both of those things led you to want to go to law school. :)
Thank you for taking the time to respond! I really enjoy your videos, you provide great insight into a very challenging process. I look forward to more of your videos on how to prepare for law school!
Hmm that will depend on several factors. Tell me a little bit more about your situation -- what year of school you're in, when you're planning to head to law school, what your university major is. That way I can give you feedback on what might be most important to focus on :)
@@shabnamshafaee7416 Hmm interesting question! I say do what you enjoy. The possibility of law school is so far away, and life is going to take a million twists and turns before you get there. Even if you ultimately go to law school, you don't have to be an avid reader to do well. I'm not a "for pleasure" reader and I really enjoyed law school and being a lawyer. So try lots of things, follow your interests, and do what brings you joy. Believe it or not, those are the best steps to guide you to the work that will be the best fit for you :)
Hey Angela , great video I am from the Netherlands. After the summer I will start international and European law school. Do you have any tips or experience with that ? Sorry for the mistakes English is my third langues
Hi, kelson! I actually don't have any experience with the European law school system! I would be interested to know if the structure, grading, and job opportunities are similar!
Cold calling comes from the socratic method of teaching that is prevalent in law school in which the professor calls on students (at random) to explain the cases (the facts, the issue, the rule, the analysis, the holding) in front of everyone, rather than just straight lecturing to students and telling them what those elements are. So it's definitely a stressful experience, but the big mistake most law students make is trying to prevent that discomfort by "mastering" the cases before class, which unfortunately takes away time from focusing on the more important studying tactics. Because of this, cold calling has come under attack as not an effective teaching tactic, but law school is slow to change its ways, unfortunately.
Such a good question! And I'm actually coming out with a video about part-time evening law school programs next week so be sure to check that out! The short answer is yes, definitely, part-time evening programs are a really viable way to be able to continue to earn income as you make your way through law school and graduate with much lower student loan debts while continuing to grow your professional network!
@@AngelaVorpahl thank you I needed that confirmation much more than you realize😭💕☺️. And I'll watch it too. You're videos have been the most unbiased and most factual videos I've been able to find. I love your facts, fact checking, and data searches during your videos to make sure you're saying the most recent accurate details possible. Thank you!
If you go part-time, make sure Daddy or Mommy has a law firm you can join. The harsh reality is that going to law school part-time is a great way to end up as an unemployed solo practitioner.
@@stankakol5195 source or sources to confirm that statement please. And she already made a video last week proving that statement wrong and there's plenty of other videos made representing and encouraging part time law students. It's not about full or part time when you become a lawyer. A lawyer is a lawyer when you pass that bar exam. When you write a resume you don't put full time or part time student. You put "currently attending" or "resently graduated". But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Just to so I can say I gave you a chance to back up that statement💁♀️
I’m not sure if you discussed this in a video but what is a good LSAT score to get money for school? I’m taking mine in a few months I’m super nervous. Does the LSAT score have an impact on whether or not you get in?
Hi, Kyle! It will depend on what law school you're trying to get into as to what LSAT score may qualify you for scholarships, but a good way to determine your probability for scholarship is by googling the "median lsat" for the law schools you are interested in. If you are significantly above their median LSAT score you are not only likely to get in, but have a better shot of getting scholarship money. You can also use admittance into (and scholarship money offered from) one law school to negotiate scholarship money from another law school. The LSAT is by far the most important factor in both determining admittance and scholarship opportunities, but try not to put too much pressure on yourself. Wherever you get in and at whatever cost, there are strategies to do well and set yourself up for a great career as a lawyer :)
Law-related jobs that don't actually require a JD would be positions in areas like: legal marketing, legal recruiting, alternative legal services (like e-discovery services), and jury consulting.
@@helenzhang4664 The short answer is no :) I'd be interested to hear where you heard this or why it might be on your mind? Clerking for a judge is a great experience but not necessary for a career in litigation (and TOTALLY unnecessary for a career in transactional law).
Angela Vorpahl Fantastic. There are a couple of books related to both the Trivium (pertains to mind) and Quadrivium (pertains to matter). I think you would really dig into it. I am surprised because I was under the assumption that all legal professionals were taught this. I am curious, do you read philosophy by any chance? Thanks for the response.
I've never seen a legal employer specifically seeking out JD/MBA students over traditional JDs, since for the most part you'll be learning everything about the job on the job and they don't expect you to have any particular background going in. I could see how having a JD/MBA on your resume may give you a bit of an advantage if you otherwise don't rank at the top of your class, but the question would be if that possible slight advantage is worth an extra year and expense of graduate school. I would say that if you're going to law school to be lawyer it's not necessary. If you're going to law school to work as a corporate executive it may give you a slight bump, but in that case you probably don't need the JD :) Here's a bit of a pro/con breakdown: www.usnews.com/education/blogs/law-admissions-lowdown/articles/2019-07-08/pros-cons-of-getting-a-jd-mba-dual-degree
Sorry but this is terrible advice. Coming to class prepared and being able to answer questions consistently in class greatly helps with revision. Also, when you stand out as an engaged student teachers will 1) be more lenient when you have other obligations or requests and 2) you’ll get offered extra opportunities like literature groups that do in depth readings with other outstanding students and teachers. Don’t focus too much on grades, you are at uni to develop yourself on a personal level as well if not more.
I'm happy to hear alternative thoughts, I think it helps people evaluate what their goals are and how to prioritize their time accordingly. Thanks for sharing :)
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12 Year Lawyer here. Its nice to know not much has changed since I went to law school.
Haha so true!!!
My biggest piece of advice, is use the syllabus and table of contents. This advice seems intuitive but you would be surprised at how many efficiency gains you receive from just looking at the table of contents.
Totally agree!! That never occurred to me my 1L year, and I got way too deep in the weeds without a global understanding of the material 😖
Cold calling does have an impact on final grade. At my school it does! If you have good class participation you can get a bump for class participation and if you aren’t prepared when called on you won’t get the bump. And showing that you’re prepared during your cold calls makes professors remember you and more willing to write letters of recommendations. Cold calls DO matter.
Oh really? That's the first I've heard of a professor or law school having class participation impact a final grade so that's so good to know! What law school do you go to?
Angela Vorpahl yep! I’m not sure how much it really matters, but for Civ Pro everyone who received a bump for class participation got an email from the professor, and I got an email. And plenty of other professors made it clear that if we were called on and unprepared it could negatively impact our grades. I don’t put what school I go to on RUclips because I also have a RUclips channel, so for privacy reasons I don’t say. Sorry! But I do absolutely love your channel. I’ve been binging lol.
@@coffybelle7534 Totally understand! And awesome youtube channel, I just subscribed!! :)
Angela Vorpahl aw thanks!!
@@coffybelle7534 Hey girl, what school do you or did attend if I may ask?
Beginning 1L in Fall 2022. This video was super helpful in giving me an idea of what to expect and how to navigate 1L!
Yay! So exciting! It will be here before you know it :) And with that in mind, I run a free FB group for law students and prelaw students looking for clarity and support in their law school journey, would you like the link to join?
I'm definitely struggling with making connections. I'm like dang, y'all don't like me?
Oh gosh, don't worry! Everyone is in their head first year worrying if they're studying the right way and if things are going to work out the way they hope. And I can't imagine it's any easier with everyone being remote on top of everything else. People tend to calm down their 2L year and the feeling of intense competition starts to lower :)
I go out of my way to be friendly and I'm not going to stop trying!
@@toriferrell2008 Good for you! It will pay off, you'll see :)
What else is something that you'd like to know heading into law school? OR, if you've already been through law school, what is something every law student NEEDS to know before starting?! Share your questions (or wisdom!) in the comments below! :)
@yang jin Not at all! I'm actually going to come out with a video on law school as a second career track because so many attorneys have done it and I want to show you guys that it's entirely possible! :)
@yang jin 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you for your super informative videos! I just deposited for the Fall term to my future law school. I'm excited to be watching and re-watching all your videos, hopefully with a better understanding each time. I'm certain that your channel will be a huge resource for me during my law school career. Hope to see you back soon!
So exciting!!! Law school can be overwhelming but also super interesting and a lot of fun! I can't wait for you to get started! And I'm glad the videos are helpful!!
thanks Angela! those advices is the gold mine!
Yay!! I'm so glad that the video was helpful!! :)
Im kind of late on this video, but i had a few questions:
1. Can i do both a law review/jurnal and a Clinic/Cort
2. What do you actually do as part of your Clinical experience
3. How do you go about building connections in Law School
4. I was wondering about exams the 1st year is ot mostly IRAC or?
And lastly, how do i pick between journals, clinics, and other options of extracurricular?
Sorry for the many questions. 😅
Hi Ivo! Whew this is a lot of great questions. DM me on Instagram so that I can send you an audio with my thoughts :)
@@AngelaVorpahl sounds good! Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video. I'm targeting Fall 2022 and may not do law review and will put less emphasis on cold call prep.
That's so exciting that you're looking at applying for next year! I actually run a free FB group for law students and prelaw students. Would you like the link to join? :)
I don't have FB, otherwise it would be a yes!
@@gfshaffer1 No worries! I'm also hanging out here on RUclips and a ton on Instagram (@angelavorpahl) answering questions as well :)
Commercial outlines are life savers.
That's so awesome that you found what works for you! I was always a bit wary of commercial outlines because they tend to be fairly generic and aren't tailored to your specific professor's presentation of the information. That being said, using them as a foundational document as a place to start incorporating your class notes, I agree they can be helpful :)
I am about to enter college and the university I'm going to has a Dual degree progra with their law school. I found this really helpful and informative. Definitely gonna come back to this in 4 years 😂😅
I'm so glad the video was helpful!! And congratulations on the dual degree program, that sounds amazing!!!
Hi Angela hope all is well. Just wondering if you could do a video or videos explaining different kinds of lawyers and what they do.
Hi Brianna! YES definitely! That one is a big pet project of mine that I want to make progress on SOON so definitely stay posted and thanks so much for the reminder!
@@AngelaVorpahl thanks
@@briannadunn6417 😍😍😍
Can you do a video speaking on your journey from undergrad to law school or a video talking about law school exams
As luck would have it, I've actually done videos on both of those topics!
Journey from college to law school: ruclips.net/video/LIuMQX1l9hs/видео.html
How to take law school exams: ruclips.net/video/lwL36qc7G-0/видео.html
The narrator's point about getting to know your classmates is more important in a so-called "regional" law schools. I attended a Top-Ten-ranked national law school. I knew immediately that I would likely never see any of my classmates again. Hence, I focused purely on grades which is what the better law firms want to see.
Hi Stan! Your comment is so interesting, I would have thought that connections with your classmates would be even more valuable at a T14 law school given that my understanding is that the mentality of the law school is that "all of our students are equally capable and impressive and any legal employer would be happy to have any one of them." :) And that the big draw of going to a T14 law school is actually the network (both with your classmates and alumni). Is that not the case?
@@AngelaVorpahl Hi Angela! The top law schools may think all of their graduates are impressive, but the really good law firms are darn selective. I don't think that Really Good Law Firm gives a hoot if you know Johnny or Suzy. Give me grades (class rank) over buddies, unless mommy and daddy own the firm.
I wish I had listened to this video before my LLB!
Haha oh no!! I hear you though, I wish I could go back in time and know these things too 🤦♀️
I've been considering a change of careers to a lawyer.
That's awesome!! Go for it!
Wanted to clarify something- although cold-calls do not affect grades, it sounds like students are still required to be present should they get called on? Would that be a small attendance grade simply for showing up?
One person has reached out to me to let me know that one professor at their law school gives a grade "bump" or a grade "reduction" for how people perform during cold calls, but the actual amount of that grade increase or decrease has never been communicated to them. My sense is that any professor that tells you that a percentage of your grade is based on cold calls is either just using it as a motivational/scare tactic to get you to prepare, or the grade adjustment is so small I would never base your study strategy around it. Plus, just so we're clear, the study strategy I recommend will absolutely prepare you for cold calls, it just doesn't advocate going overboard such that you are taking precious time away from other study steps to focus exclusively on preparing the readings for class.
With respect to attendance, I do think professors actually have the ability to force people to drop their class if they straight up don't show up on a regular basis, but those policies will vary by school and professor. I have never seen or heard of attendance actually factor into a grade bump, though.
Hey Angela, great video, very informative. I'm about to go to law school in Canada, is it the same as American law schools ?
Hi, Hatim! I don't have experience with Canadian law schools so I couldn't say, but there are RUclipsrs who are currently going through law school in Canada if you want to get their insight! One of the channels I follow is @lovelynnea: ruclips.net/channel/UChFXqgtNSokLNLYXwHu3AmQfeed.
Do a bar review course before starting law school, learn how to analyze an appellate opinion, get a mentor who knows what is relevant and irrelevant, and most of all know how to take a law school exam.
So.Much.Yes!! When you say a bar review course, do you mean a preview of the courses you take 1L year? If so, did you find that helpful or overwhelming?
@@AngelaVorpahl a bar review of 1L courses, then do the 2L courses, then 3L
Angela, loving your videos!!! Do you think there’s an age cutoff? I’m thinking of applying when i’m 45...is this a waste ?
Class participation actually matters in my class. The cold calling and quality of the answers are important.
Oh really? That's so interesting! I've never heard of that! What law school do you go to?
@@AngelaVorpahl maybe because I'm studying in Singapore :)
@@Jejdjejbfjf Oh cool!! Is the law school system in Singapore similar to the U.S.? 3 years with law firm clerkships after the 2nd year?
@@AngelaVorpahl I am enrolled in the undergraduate programme called the LLB which lasts 4 years. Many students take on internships during term breaks after their first year. The legal requirement however is to complete a 1 year training contract after graduation and pass the bar exam to become a lawyer. :)
We have the graduate law programme as well called the JD which lasts 3 years but the cohort tends to be smaller than the LLB :)
Thank you for the great information Angela! I am currently a junior completing my undergraduate degree and am debating whether I should complete my B.A. in either History or Political Science- Politics and Law at my university. Do you think either degree would put me at an advantage when applying to law school or should I just take the safe route and pursue a degree that will give me the highest GPA? I appreciate any feed back you can provide!
To be honest, I would go with the major that excites you and interests you the most because when you talk about you studied/what you majored in later down the road in interviews, it will be evident if you majored in something because you enjoyed it or were just trying to take a path you thought you "should" take, and the former is always the better option. Plus, if you enjoy the subject you have a much better chance of doing well in your classes, and also just generally enjoying life! If you can think of an internship or student organization or volunteer experience that you can do (that also links to the major you've chosen) that's even better because then you can show a more cohesive narrative as to why you chose your major, substantive experiences that you've had in relation to that area, and how both of those things led you to want to go to law school. :)
Thank you for taking the time to respond! I really enjoy your videos, you provide great insight into a very challenging process. I look forward to more of your videos on how to prepare for law school!
@@pilarmartinez2126 My pleasure!! I'm excited for you guys to see the new videos coming out!
Should I start reading more books because I’m not a reader I can’t read for a mixture should I develop my reading?
Hmm that will depend on several factors. Tell me a little bit more about your situation -- what year of school you're in, when you're planning to head to law school, what your university major is. That way I can give you feedback on what might be most important to focus on :)
@@AngelaVorpahl I am currently young only in year 8 but should I start getting reading more so it can be more “fun” and easier in the future?
@@shabnamshafaee7416 Hmm interesting question! I say do what you enjoy. The possibility of law school is so far away, and life is going to take a million twists and turns before you get there. Even if you ultimately go to law school, you don't have to be an avid reader to do well. I'm not a "for pleasure" reader and I really enjoyed law school and being a lawyer. So try lots of things, follow your interests, and do what brings you joy. Believe it or not, those are the best steps to guide you to the work that will be the best fit for you :)
@@AngelaVorpahl oh thank you for your comment
@@shabnamshafaee7416 My pleasure! Keep me posted on your journey :)
Hey Angela , great video I am from the Netherlands. After the summer I will start international and European law school. Do you have any tips or experience with that ? Sorry for the mistakes English is my third langues
Hi, kelson! I actually don't have any experience with the European law school system! I would be interested to know if the structure, grading, and job opportunities are similar!
Whats cold calling?
Cold calling comes from the socratic method of teaching that is prevalent in law school in which the professor calls on students (at random) to explain the cases (the facts, the issue, the rule, the analysis, the holding) in front of everyone, rather than just straight lecturing to students and telling them what those elements are. So it's definitely a stressful experience, but the big mistake most law students make is trying to prevent that discomfort by "mastering" the cases before class, which unfortunately takes away time from focusing on the more important studying tactics.
Because of this, cold calling has come under attack as not an effective teaching tactic, but law school is slow to change its ways, unfortunately.
@@AngelaVorpahl oh ok, i thought it was that just wasnt sure! Thank you!
Do you recommend going part time? I have to work and I know it's cheaper to go part time anyways
Such a good question! And I'm actually coming out with a video about part-time evening law school programs next week so be sure to check that out! The short answer is yes, definitely, part-time evening programs are a really viable way to be able to continue to earn income as you make your way through law school and graduate with much lower student loan debts while continuing to grow your professional network!
@@AngelaVorpahl thank you I needed that confirmation much more than you realize😭💕☺️. And I'll watch it too. You're videos have been the most unbiased and most factual videos I've been able to find. I love your facts, fact checking, and data searches during your videos to make sure you're saying the most recent accurate details possible. Thank you!
@@claudiawatkins9686 My pleasure!! I'm so glad they've been helpful! 😍😍😍
If you go part-time, make sure Daddy or Mommy has a law firm you can join. The harsh reality is that going to law school part-time is a great way to end up as an unemployed solo practitioner.
@@stankakol5195 source or sources to confirm that statement please. And she already made a video last week proving that statement wrong and there's plenty of other videos made representing and encouraging part time law students. It's not about full or part time when you become a lawyer. A lawyer is a lawyer when you pass that bar exam. When you write a resume you don't put full time or part time student. You put "currently attending" or "resently graduated". But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Just to so I can say I gave you a chance to back up that statement💁♀️
I’m not sure if you discussed this in a video but what is a good LSAT score to get money for school? I’m taking mine in a few months I’m super nervous. Does the LSAT score have an impact on whether or not you get in?
Hi, Kyle! It will depend on what law school you're trying to get into as to what LSAT score may qualify you for scholarships, but a good way to determine your probability for scholarship is by googling the "median lsat" for the law schools you are interested in. If you are significantly above their median LSAT score you are not only likely to get in, but have a better shot of getting scholarship money. You can also use admittance into (and scholarship money offered from) one law school to negotiate scholarship money from another law school.
The LSAT is by far the most important factor in both determining admittance and scholarship opportunities, but try not to put too much pressure on yourself. Wherever you get in and at whatever cost, there are strategies to do well and set yourself up for a great career as a lawyer :)
What are other law related jobs?
Law-related jobs that don't actually require a JD would be positions in areas like: legal marketing, legal recruiting, alternative legal services (like e-discovery services), and jury consulting.
Do I need to do a ckerkship as a law student
Hi Helen! I'm not sure I understand your question -- do you mean work for a judge, or work for a law firm, or both?
@@AngelaVorpahl clerking for a judge
@@helenzhang4664 The short answer is no :) I'd be interested to hear where you heard this or why it might be on your mind? Clerking for a judge is a great experience but not necessary for a career in litigation (and TOTALLY unnecessary for a career in transactional law).
Did you ever learn about the 7 liberal arts and sciences in school?
I did not, and I definitely just googled that to see what it was :)
Angela Vorpahl Fantastic. There are a couple of books related to both the Trivium (pertains to mind) and Quadrivium (pertains to matter). I think you would really dig into it. I am surprised because I was under the assumption that all legal professionals were taught this. I am curious, do you read philosophy by any chance? Thanks for the response.
I’m taking the lsat in April!
Yeah girl!! That's awesome!! Are you planning to apply to the 2020 or 2021 law school cycle?
Angela Vorpahl 2021! I’m going to apply right when they open this fall and try to get some first come first serve scholarships.
@@erikaruns_ Nice!! Keep me posted on how it goes! :)
Angela Vorpahl I will! Feeling nervous. I’ve worked as a legal assistant for almost two years. I know this is what I want so I’ve got the motivation .
Have you seen the law school hacks offered by Larry Law Law? Wondered how legit and successful his study “system “ is.
I haven't! Are there any in particular you were wondering about?
Angela Vorpahl No, just wondering if he was legit or just making money off unsuspecting law students with his study “system “ and tips.
@@HankHill757 Oh I actually have no idea, I haven't checked out his videos!
Can anyone comment on a JD/MBA?
I've never seen a legal employer specifically seeking out JD/MBA students over traditional JDs, since for the most part you'll be learning everything about the job on the job and they don't expect you to have any particular background going in. I could see how having a JD/MBA on your resume may give you a bit of an advantage if you otherwise don't rank at the top of your class, but the question would be if that possible slight advantage is worth an extra year and expense of graduate school. I would say that if you're going to law school to be lawyer it's not necessary. If you're going to law school to work as a corporate executive it may give you a slight bump, but in that case you probably don't need the JD :)
Here's a bit of a pro/con breakdown: www.usnews.com/education/blogs/law-admissions-lowdown/articles/2019-07-08/pros-cons-of-getting-a-jd-mba-dual-degree
@@AngelaVorpahl Thank you so much for your response! I love your videos!
@@binyaminkhawaja1536 My pleasure!! I'm so glad the videos are helpful!! :)
Sorry but this is terrible advice. Coming to class prepared and being able to answer questions consistently in class greatly helps with revision. Also, when you stand out as an engaged student teachers will 1) be more lenient when you have other obligations or requests and 2) you’ll get offered extra opportunities like literature groups that do in depth readings with other outstanding students and teachers. Don’t focus too much on grades, you are at uni to develop yourself on a personal level as well if not more.
I'm happy to hear alternative thoughts, I think it helps people evaluate what their goals are and how to prioritize their time accordingly. Thanks for sharing :)