What I'd Do Differently in Law School (If I Did It Again)
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2018
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If only I had known then what I know now! Law school can be like an echo chamber where you simply follow what everyone else is doing because everyone else is doing it. But there is so much I would have done differently if I had to do it all over again. Learn from my mistakes:
- Spend less time preparing for class and being cold-called
- Spend more time preparing for finals
- Learn how to write law school essay exams earlier
- Take practice tests!
- Live close to campus if you are a full time law student
- Trust the professor less when they are confusing
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completely agree with this assessment. wish this was around when I went to law school.
What undergraduate degree should I have for Law school? Because I'm in 10th grade in Germany and I'm thinking about being a lawyer and study abroad for Law school.
And where do get those practice test from?
The way I prepared for class was to read the first 3 pages of the assignment. In class I would answer question for the first 10 minutes. After that the instructor usually wanted someone else to participate and he would leave me alone.
Cerius Deluge HA. THATS AMAZING
A creative solution. Love it.
Just like High school then 😉
Omg you’re a GENIUS!!
Everyone does this though. What happens when he/she doesn’t call on you
0:50 - Chapter 1 - It's innefficient to to try to learn everything before class
2:00 - Chapter 2 - Better to prepare for finals instead of class
2:20 - Chapter 3 - Participate on your own terms, not the professor's
2:50 - Chapter 4 - Take practice test ASAP
3:40 - Chapter 5 - Learn how to write law school essay exams
5:10 - Chapter 6 - It's not a dark art, it's a skill
5:30 - Chapter 7 - Live close to campus
7:55 - Chapter 8 - The professor isn't a genius
8:50 - Chapter 9 - It takes time to get used to it
2 words: public transportation. If that is an option, use it. Even if it takes longer, you can study on your commute that way. I got a lot of studying done that way.
Sam good to know that there who agree. I’m going on NYC and plan on lots of studying on the subway.
The UC campuses are just huge, I commute and it's not so bad. Gives your brain a break and you can listen to audiobooks, RUclips videos, podcasts, etc.
I wish I could do this with my commutes to class, but I get horrible bus sickness.
Just pretend the bus is a limo, the driver your chaufer, and you don't recognize most of your friends in the "limo" b/c you've been thirst-friending too much
Hank Igoe excellent advice thank you sincerely 🙏🏾
I have no professional interest or experience in law but your channel is very informative in a very interesting way, thanks for the videos!
I'm a brazilian still in high school and watching this still lol I would like to go to law school though
Pro-tip: If you’re in a situation where you HAVE to drive to school, try to find a way to listen to lectures/reading while you’re commuting, that way you don’t completely waste your time.
I'm a software engineer and I can't stop watching these videos, lots of practical pieces of advice that can apply to many areas. Good content!
Enmanuel Toribio I’m a records analyst and I totally agree 💯 these videos are in point!
As a guy who went to law school in the early 90s, I agree about the class participation and the notion of test practice is very good. Fortunately, I went to a law school that made their class examinations look like bar examination questions, as much as possible. That was a huge help when It came to preparing for the bar exam. Also fortunately, my law school was located in a scenic area, so my commute was actually a source of calmness and even serenity before I hit the stress of class! Finally, the Socratic method can be terribly misused as an ego gratifier for professors. Watch out for those guys!
i once commuted 2 hours a day to school...it was the worst. waking up early and getting home late. driving took a chunk out of studying
Ugh, that is the worst.
Record the lectures and play it while you drive and record you talking about important things especially when you have a test
Objection! Were bicycles not allowed on your law school? A 45-minute walk would take about 10 minutes on a bike and would provide the minimum daily physically activity for a bookworm.
You got all A's and got into a top firm. It might be a bad idea to do anything differently. Maybe that time you spent commuting gave you time alone to mentally prepare for class and being closer would mean less time to prepare. Maybe the things you did to prepare for class helped your overall understanding of how things worked. What better outcome could you have than what you earned the way you did it?
That's the "championship mentality" of very successful people.. They always believe they could've and can do better, that is what drives them
@@KakaOfTheRealMadrid Fair point but all things considered things worked out quite well for him, as a Lawyer and as a RUclipsr. I'd hazard a guess his personal life is better than average too.
Well just because you got what you wanted doesn’t mean that you couldn’t have done it better-or in a less painful manner.
Good idea for commuters, record yourself going over your outlines and listen to it on the way to class
Jason Sikoryak yesss!
A friend of mine did something like that while driving home and back (400 miles) once a month. It weren't recordings of himself but from a teacher, but still the same idea
I agree with you on some points. Obviously, for me it was different I attended RIC to obtain my degree in psychology, I actually took the public bus or drove my bicycle. I didn't know it back then but cycling it's good to sharpen your brain and reduces stress.And sometimes group studying helps too (just make sure you surround yourself with hardworking-driven peers). Thank you James!
Commuting to school can be okay if you can take public transport. I did a 45-minute train ride each way when I was in college. But I could get a lot done on the train (also naps).
Commuting made easy. I commute once in the morning and once in the evening. I record the teacher talking our campus allows it then hook my recorder to my music player in my car. I also record me talking about the test while I drive to the test as well. Makes the most of the drive.
Lower division and GE courses test facts. You can memorize facts. Upper division (at least in the sciences), test concepts. You can't memorize concepts.
I learned that the hard way when I tried pulling the "listen to the entire lecture again" strategy ... which worked so well in my lower division science courses. Nope. There is virtually no benefit for a science major to listen to the lecture TWICE.
The one thing he says in this video is very true though, your professors have idiosyncrasies that you can pick up on. For example in Biology you will most likely have an 'Organismal Biologist' teaching you an upper division Evolution course. What I've noticed is that if you go to class and look at their backgrounds, their test questions lean towards it. So when you get a class called "Evolutionary Biology" being taught by a Parasitologist .... yeah, lots of parasite questions on the tests.
TheLadynecromancer I was literally about to post everything you just said. Thanks for saving me the time. 😉
I commute a little over an hour then or campus is huge. I leave real early, study in the car. A commute is totally manageable.
Your videos are Veery helpful thanks soo much you are the best youtuber lawyer and i think one of the best lawyers!
Aww thanks!
Thank you so much Devin.
Finally someone said it out loud.
Best,
Alex, student of law
Aarhus University
Denmark
I don’t know, my Torts Professor wanted to get straight to the point, and I tried that on Criminal Law, and although I came out to the same conclusion as the model exam, the old professor wanted each and every definition of MPC and CL terms used in the essay answer. Bombed that exam to say the least.
This is basically universal tips for all major. Great Vid!!!!
Objection! I lived in Tacoma WA for 8 months and during that time I had no car and no thus no auto insurance. When I moved to Albuquerque after that time frame, when I tried to sign up for insurance again the insurance agent said I should have kept auto insurance anyway during that time because he couldn't give me a cheap rate, it was the same as being as an "uninsured motorist" even though I was taking public transportation everywhere in WA because their bus systems really was that good.
Hi LegalEagle, can you please do a video on how to answer short questions in exams, mainly on civil procedure and legal foundations? Thanks!
OBJECTION! The funny thing is that these tips apply to most studies, not just law school, and they even apply in real life. Great video!
This is the best advice I’ve heard. As an academically struggling foreign student, your advise is like a best kept secret. Everyone in school stresses on hard work, and I don’t mind hard work, but who wants to sacrifice for poor grade…Even a lot of law school you tubers stress on something that would not get me a rewarding grade…
I’ll be commuting everyday for my 1L on the train, so I’m hoping I’ll be able to make some use of that otherwise dead time but... ehhhhhhhh lol
the "live close to campus" hits so hard because i live within ten minutes of walking distance to campus and yet i'm not using the extra time to be productive
Great tips!
As a 1L... THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Invaluable advice
thank you for this counselor
As a law student in my final year, I wish I could have watched these videos earlier, what he said was absolutely correct!!!
OMG I’m so glad to hear what you said. I thought I was going crazy or cheating some way, for not reading every single word in every case.
Where is the case method link? Thanks! Such informative videos! Got accepted recently and will be starting in June!
Ah crap. That will be the next video! Check back next week.
I would love to see na update to this series here on the main channel. I think it'd be cool to see if any opinions or tips have changed in the current climate
I graduated with a completely different degree 8 years ago, but man, I find these videos super interesting regardless.
Videos are well done and informative! Question: I'm considering going to law school and doing my research on what it's like, prep work, etc. It seems the LSAT is a good barometer and necessary to get into law school. So, what LSAT prep material would you recommend? Is there a particular series or group that you found most accurately prepares one for the LSAT exam? Thank you in advance for answering my question.
Hello sir, i find your videos very helpful😊
Thanks for watching.
The #1 thing I'd done differently is......... not go!
I had property professor (also my advisor) throw and break a book when two students were not prepared. I will not assume all are drastic but I read everything, at least for her class.
Love studying on a train, but I have to say that I like driving. I know the route between my house and work, could do it with my eyes closed (but I don't!). Still, I like driving, listening to music, or an audio book... So while I get the principle of live close, it's not that important for me. But I probably wouldn't go twice. That's what parks, libraries and coffee shops are for
Quick question for you. When you lived on campus, was it a dorm type situation or an apartment? If the latter, how could you afford that being I know most law schools put a cap on how many hours a week you can work.
Thank you! Love your videos. They’ve helped me a lot as I prepare to finish my degree and go to Law School.
Matthew Ryan Ross I would try finding a roommate and reaching out to any alumni from your undergraduate institution in the area you are going to law school. You could look for studio apartments. Research the different neighborhoods of the city your law school is in. There are student loans but I am unfamiliar with them.
totally agree with this video
I think I'm going to kill law school final exams. Out of everything that I'm good at in law, its "issue spotting" as you put it. I love legal writing. It's literally my favorite part of law.
Preach.
Sustained ! I commuted 5 hours per day to my law school my 1L year. Complete nightmare. Don’t ask me how I made it but I did lol
Funny what you say about the socratic method being ineffective way of teaching thats what I thought when I saw The Paper Chase years ago, I'm shocked to heat u say it's still taught that way
Yes
New on there's do allmy class work and last years as well
Hindsight is 2020, truer today than ever before
What I'll say about longer commutes- sometimes its healthier to have forced breaks in your schedule. It does mean you need to be better about being on top of yourself (no procrastinating!) but I would say it actually helped me to live farther from the main area as a way to distance myself from work and come back with a fresher perspective instead of an overworked, blind sided point of view. I am also very much not a lawyer so perhaps that makes a difference too xD
I am planning on attending law school in the future. Is there a general starting point I could use a jumping off point, whether it be readings, writings, or extracurriculars to engage in while I finish my Bachelors Degree?
If I was going to law school or know somebody who's going I would recommend this video
I had a question about Law School. I understand going to the top law schools in the nation is key to success in your future. However I am going back and forth with wanting to apply to some of the top law schools and going to one of the top HBCU’s in the country. I haven’t taken my LSAT yet however as amazing as getting into say Georgetown what should stop me from applying to Howard which is up the toad and one of the top HBCU’s in the country?
8:39 this is in Saint-Petersburg, Russia. Near railway station to Moscow and the most popular mall "Galeria". Best place to eat bad shawarma and buy shitty to ok clothes.
Well, by preparing for class you're invariably preparing for the final exam. I do have to agree that over preparing for the cold-call often lends to wasted time and energy. Ideally, you want to prepare for the class by simultaneously preparing an outline as the course progresses. That way your outlines are all ready to go by the time you reach exams. But god knows nobody gets that light bulb until 3L....
What exactly is the difference between preparing for class and preparing for finals? I know that in order to prepare for class, you have to brief cases and you stress not spending too much time on that. But then what is the information you put into your outlines based on? Don't you have to read the cases in order to understand what is going on and to write your outline?
By the way, I will be starting law school in August and I really appreciate your videos!
Yes, you should read your cases. See the video on the "Flipped Case Method". Your outline should consist of tools that you can use on an issue spotter. Very little of what you discuss in class will actually help with that.
Please react to Fracture (2007 film)
with Anthony Hopkins
I disagree with one element you listed, at least for those who learn as I do. Drive time isn't a waste. I learn best by hearing things. Like learning the lyrics of a song. So I record things that are important for class. Though I typically read it or say it the way I need to learn it.
Need information as well
And what is the Socratic Method as employed in law school as opposed to the method Socrates used in his discussions as set out in the Dialogues by Plato?
I like how this video is casual from you rubbing your eye lol
well let's start by actually putting serious time to study for the LSAT.
3:45 what I'm confused? So they don't teach you how to write a law school essay but yet they assigned them to you ? Please clarify/elaborate on that statement please
Final exams in law school are "issue spotting essays" which require application of the law and thinking like a lawyer. Law schools don't teach that.
I love the bloopers hahhahhahahha
Yo that campus walk is serious
6:04 Except you had bad luck with your 'accepting call' timing.
If I had to redo uni
•Exploit foundation year,
•Dont drink that much during first year (especially before class) also revise RM
•Second year, make a team during second semester for your society
•Begin early with your dissertation on third year, also revise the shit out of forensix psych.
After university I'd say 'forgive yourself
Im a guy and you make me want to be a lawyer handsome, successful, smart. But i will be a freshman in college next year and I was wondering what would be a good major and is it true the harder you work the more money you make in law?
Law schools don't care about your major. Do something that you love and get good grades in it. I can't make a general statement about all lawyers. But I can tell you that every bigfirm attorney i've ever met (myself included) worked very hard. Generally the big firms reward hard work accordingly.
Keep up with it's my base class how to be a lawyer
how does one study for the bar?
4:30
9:16 ¿What would you say is a good way to teach the law?
I'm not as up on theoretical pedagogy as I used to be, but professors could start by teaching the black letter law (which, contrary to what it seems in law school) is largely settled in the 1L classes. They could also teach how to answer law school finals other than just saying "use IRAC" -- but they don't.
It's kind of cool to see the opening question mark in english. I vote for including it (since most people in informal spanish isn't using it...)
Speaking as someone who commutes to law school... yeah, don't do it if you don't have to.
Hi.
I've been in law school and graduated since 2004 with a master degree from a foreign country. Im now a us citizen and want to go back to school and practice. Im 45 yo, what can I do to be accepted in a law school in us?
Will my degree help me ?
My cousin dp have question on law school 🏫 as well??????
same thing with engineering, get the past stuff
Don’t trust any specialist on a cursory glance. Too many people can get a job in a specialized field yet apparently not know what they’re taking about whether it’s your professor, your doctor, or you what have you, it’s ignorant not to do your own research beforehand.
Go to business, pubic administration or a masters of city planing program instead??
Which law school were you in brother?
I am a proud UCLA Bruin!
@@LegalEagle you are Brown?
LegalEagle #8Clap!
@@LegalEagle
Ah, UCLA is supposed to be great for entertainment law, which is what I want to do!
Hello i have a question for you...
I'm graduated Russian law university and i want to study LLM program in USA but my LLB from distance mode...The question is can i do LLM in USA with my distance LLB??
In practice that’s a question of whether particular universities will accept you. Their websites may indicate whether they care about how you studied, but I suggest calling or emailing admissions people and asking if they care about whether you did distance learning.
...45 minute walk....you guys at least HEARD about bikes right?
Devin now seems so tired compared to Devin 2 years ago
I am back for you class
This is great content, but watching this in 2021 you can see how much better he has gotten at the RUclips thing.
Literally the only person to say English majors have a hard time in law school
Objection, please compel the witness to clarify "commercial supplements". (Summer Associate Shadowing the case: "Adderall! He means Adderall!")
How do you prepare for finals vs prepare for class? what's the difference?
I am there's for class
The worst thing you can do is have to drive to class…
*lives 30 minutes from campus*
Omg how big was the UCLA campus?!
Wow over ten years
I know, I'm an old man. BUT HEED THE WARNINGS OF THIS GRIZZLED OLD TRIAL DOG. SAVE THE CHEERLEADER!
@@LegalEagle "Grizzled"? Well, perhaps in the strict sense of the word; but, "old"? You're a mere child...adolescent at most. Wait a couple more decades and you'll look back on your current youth with wistful amusement...and some longing.
Now 12
I have zero interest in being a lawyer... WHY DO I FIND THESE VIDEOS INTERESTING?!!
Don't b av cash for s home or law school
I am there's and there's
Don't know how people's get 30th year for black Emil or dating younger girls, and I am learning ore
What I'd done differently?
Don't go!
Oliver S same. my choices were law or pilot... now that im almost done with law school I wish I chose pilot!!
It's never too late. I know pilots that have law degrees
never too late... even if your 44?? I started law school at 40. if I was to start training to be a helicoptor pilot now id be 48 by the time im done... Oh well... guess its not all bad being a lawyer ... although if I could turn back time...🚁✈🚁
@@mhend8693 No it's never too late, might be harder now but if you're really passionate about being a pilot you can make it happen.
I for example wish i would have gone the science route instead of law but i have to finish law now. Work arduously for some years and see if i could go back to physics just for kicks . We'll see
Watching these videos instead of stufying for my law school finals
Objection: hindsight is NOT 20/20.
Have you ever played solitaire or other games where you have an undo button? Have you ever used that undo button, and then realized that the alternate course wasn't much more helpful than your original?
Hindsight isn't 20/20. It's just not correctible, so it seems more correct than it probably is.
Can she get left back from vacation last year """":::;;;;;
I would not use the word probably....makes you seem distant
The tip about living close(r) to campus is kind of crap. Sure, it makes sense in theory, like "don't live an hour away from campus," that's common sense, but in reality, MOST people aren't going to law school at a huge California school where it takes 45 minutes to walk from one end of campus to the other. Nor are they going to school in a city so large that it takes an hour to drive to campus from their home. I personally live off campus where I spend 6k less per year than it would cost to live on campus and I can still get from my apartment to my seat in class in 20 minutes. That's with driving to campus during rush hour and then parking and walking to the building. The people who do live on campus can get there via walking in 10. Really not worth spending 6k extra each year to save yourself 20 minutes a day. It is a rare occurrence for the situation you described to actually happen to most law students.
I agree it's not customized, but it is still a tip for those in his situation or at least a similar one. He should have mentioned that it's only applicable if your commute is close to or longer than his was, but his tip isn't completely crap
Well if you're going to blindly follow the advice of one guy instead of analyzing your own situation to figure out if his advice is applicable to you, you probably shouldn't be going to law school anyway.
Banjo Peppers OOOOOOOOHHHH
FishAntsPlantsAndDave awkward
Well it is what HE would do different not you so I don’t know why you wouldn’t want him to share his own experiences ?
What is a full time law student
As opposed to a "part-time law student." There are a few law school programs that operate at night while you work a full time job.
Thank you
Happy Saturday Gorgeous, Would you ever consider talking seriously about the legal argument for suing parents for wrongful life, or something along those lines? I'm talking about a landmark case that would give everyone pause about the TRUE value of human existence. I'm pretty sure even if it failed in court, it would change forever & for the better, potential parents' considerations about bringing children into this world. Thank You.