Brilliant Adrian. My problem is in six months time I'll come across that piece of string and not be able to sleep at night wondering what the hell it's for. 😉👍🦘🇦🇺
Great tip. Thanks for demonstrating a slip knot!😊The panels are a bit different on my S, and I slid the spare to the right and caught it under the grab rail mounting with just a small knot showing. Prising the seat up very slightly helps poke it out over a plastic tab. 👍
Besides a short sharp tug, we all also love a little lubrication! Keep that key tumbler lubed along with the latching mechanism under the seat and that string may never be needed. A wonderful hack, Adrian. If I ever find the right NC7X deal and have one parked in my garage, the first rainy weekend that comes along I'm going to put your channel on loop and hack away!
HIya .. again, just going back through your archives and came across this one, I have just fixed my twist grip thanks to your throttle cable video so now it's time to end the worry about what if I can't get my seat to lift with the key, as you said it probably will never happen but if it does now I won't be panicking and you can bet it will be in the worst place possible if it does. Gobs a goodun. Thanks mate.
Thanks, it is just what I needed. Mine failed after exposure to cold & wet weather. Once it warmed up it worked but this is what I needed when it occured.
A superb video (as always). Very useful especially for the guys with the Shad aftermarket seat because it get stuck sometimes and this would help:) Stay healthy
Thanks for the idea this is great . I have a 2012 NC 700 and just got a 2023 nc750 dct . this would be great if you use a tank bag that covers the key hole.
I just returned from a nearly 4,000 mile trip through Colorado with tail bag and from the 1st fuel stop experienced same worrisome seat issue far from home. Just lubed all seat release moving mechanisms with lithium grease and voila!!!! Night and day difference. Now immediately pops up!
I could have done with this a couple of years ago in Pembrokeshire after getting to a petrol station and finding a bunch of sand and a small stone had found its way into the lock so it wouldn't accept the key anymore. This would have been a lot simpler and less stressful than the 20 odd minutes I spent slowly picking bits out and drowning the thing in WD-40! Thanks for the inspiration!
That is something that has always bothered me. Sometimes it feels as though my key is going to snap if I'm not careful. I going to do exactly the same thing tomorrow (just have to learn how to do the slipknot) :)
Very smart, thanks Adrian. To answer the "why bother" question here's another answer... if your starter motor is playing up (as it did on my old CBF) and you want to access the under seat area without having to switch the bike off to use the key to access it. (does that make sense?)
why not completely remove the key from the equation? do you really care if its locked? you cut the cable under the bike close to the rear seat and a loop latch? just a though, but i like your solution.
A super good idea, thanks for that. I have a question about your oil change video: unfortunately I can't understand acoustically how much oil you put in your engine. I guess it's my lousy knowledge of the English language, sorry... Can you please write the amount of oil in here? Thanks a lot for your help, Armin
Mate - as I’m not an expert or qualified I suggest you always follow the owners or workshop manual for the bike. My videos just show what I do, and maybe encourage you to do some of your own maintenance
Don't be sorry. He gave a proper answer. Follow the owner or repair manual. My advice is to not automatically pour in the amount either manual specifies. Use it as a guideline! Use the engine's oil sight glass or dipstick to determine when the proper amount is achieved.
Good work. Looking at the forums, I know the cable has failed for some people, and mine has been a bit sticky at times. This is good and simple. Cheers.
Very good video as always! I cannot imagine myself on a long trip being unable to open the rear seat to refuel, still there must be a better way than a string....or something. What if the string will brake? 😀
You have a point. I have used builders twine. This stuff will take enormous load before breaking, and after all it only has to work once. But I’d love to see a more elegant solution - you have been challenged 🤓
Very good idea! I have a Honda ST1300 and it has a cable mechanism to release the pillion seat As with your bike, it has never failed....but.... QUESTION: aside from the little storage compartment, what is the advantage of the unusual under-seat location of the fuel filler? It seems to me that it would be a PITA if you were carrying any luggage there on a long trip.
One day it dawned on me that rearranging gear on the back seat of an NC7X to fill up is no different than having to do the same thing on a "conventional" bike with a tank bag. Six of one...half a dozen of another...
@@assessor1276 Thinking back, the 1st gen BMW K bike tank bags was able to be zipped off the base to gain access to the filler. I suppose I would rather fiddle with that than a myriad of garb strapped on the back seat LOL.
Jeff Keniston Yup. On my ST1300 I use an SW Motec tank bag which mounts on a special “tank ring” that bolts to the fuel filler neck. The tank bag can be removed and replaced in literally a few seconds.
andree hammerschmidt - interesting but that doesn’t address the issue of failure at the latch. All it does is add a complicated electronic system. It’s cute but I don’t see the point of it.
The only time my pillion seat has stuck is after fitting the Shad replacement seat. Thankfully my usual answer to all life's problems (shouting, swearing and brute force) managed to finally get one side released then the other. I might have shortened the life of the key / release mechanism however. I then removed to shad pillion seat and added it to the large box labelled "spare/accessory parts for vehicles I no longer own" that I trip over on a regular basis. This is definitely my next task on the bike once I can lever my locked-down-butt out of my armchair. 👍👍👍
Mine 2019 failed yesterday, the day I bought the bike used. Anyone successfully open the seat without this modification? RIGHT side pops open, LEFT side is dead as disco.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Don't worry, it's ok, I got my spare gloves trapped in the catch mechanism, next time I will stash them somewhere else, everything is fine now, nothing more to see here, move along everyone!
Clever idea mate had i thought of this i would have used stainless wire fishing trace but then im probably more anal retentive than you ,i down loaded a series of photos on how to get to the cams on the 500 today 19 pages later but some good info apperntly those littel hooks for the side panels are a pain but this guy had a remedy for them . according to sand waves you have thousands of theives glued to your chnnel just to see how to steal fuel from an ncx 750 now that is funny .
What a clever and well thought out solution especially for "our" bike!
Always been at the back of my mind this issue, so pleased you have come up with the answer.
Best wishes Paul from Grimsby.
Brilliant Adrian. My problem is in six months time I'll come across that piece of string and not be able to sleep at night wondering what the hell it's for. 😉👍🦘🇦🇺
Villain Catcher - life is sooo full of stress! 😃
Tie a knot of string on your left index finger. That will remind you...
Radioactiveslime - ha! Yep. That will do it.
:) :) :)
How about doing a similar thing for the storage trunk? I've once closed it with the key inside and it was a nightmare to open it
Great tip. Thanks for demonstrating a slip knot!😊The panels are a bit different on my S, and I slid the spare to the right and caught it under the grab rail mounting with just a small knot showing. Prising the seat up very slightly helps poke it out over a plastic tab. 👍
Besides a short sharp tug, we all also love a little lubrication! Keep that key tumbler lubed along with the latching mechanism under the seat and that string may never be needed. A wonderful hack, Adrian. If I ever find the right NC7X deal and have one parked in my garage, the first rainy weekend that comes along I'm going to put your channel on loop and hack away!
Ha! Thanks mate
“& of course we all love a short sharp tug”.....
Gold🤣
Bob (you're Uncle) always takes the credit for your amazing handiwork. :))
I’m lying. Bob was one of my uncles but I was inspired by my Uncle Ian. So I really should say that in future 🤓
Great video as always. Good idea. My only concern is the extra weight added to the bike.
Claude Boulet 😹
Ha! Yes. A very significant concern!
HIya .. again, just going back through your archives and came across this one, I have just fixed my twist grip thanks to your throttle cable video so now it's time to end the worry about what if I can't get my seat to lift with the key, as you said it probably will never happen but if it does now I won't be panicking and you can bet it will be in the worst place possible if it does. Gobs a goodun. Thanks mate.
Ha! Yes. It’s all about peace of mind. 👍
I am sure you are aware, your presentations are addictive, and I own an other type of bike. Thanks Adrian.
Wow. High praise. Thanks
Thanks, it is just what I needed. Mine failed after exposure to cold & wet weather. Once it warmed up it worked but this is what I needed when it occured.
A superb video (as always). Very useful especially for the guys with the Shad aftermarket seat because it get stuck sometimes and this would help:)
Stay healthy
Thanks for the idea this is great . I have a 2012 NC 700 and just got a 2023 nc750 dct . this would be great if you use a tank bag that covers the key hole.
I just returned from a nearly 4,000 mile trip through Colorado with tail bag and from the 1st fuel stop experienced same worrisome seat issue far from home. Just lubed all seat release moving mechanisms with lithium grease and voila!!!! Night and day difference. Now immediately pops up!
I could have done with this a couple of years ago in Pembrokeshire after getting to a petrol station and finding a bunch of sand and a small stone had found its way into the lock so it wouldn't accept the key anymore. This would have been a lot simpler and less stressful than the 20 odd minutes I spent slowly picking bits out and drowning the thing in WD-40! Thanks for the inspiration!
Yes, that has been my worry too.
Thanx. That's another job on my list of things to do when I get mine 😀
Love it. I find the key action little bit annoying on the bike. I'm going to give this a try.
Hi, great idea, i have the same bike as you. I will try the same but with a stainless steel bicycle brake cable.
Now it's been 7 years, did the original release ever fail? I can't recall you ever mentioning it... Are you still giving the bike a run out?
No. The seat release never failed.
I sold the bike to a mate last October.
That is something that has always bothered me. Sometimes it feels as though my key is going to snap if I'm not careful. I going to do exactly the same thing tomorrow (just have to learn how to do the slipknot) :)
I love your Honder 750NC maintenance tips and mods. Thanks :)
Thanks for the comment.
A problem sorted before it becomes a problem..thanks for the idea, that's another lockdown job to do !!
GR8 article I have had mine jam once, fortunately after a lot of tugging it finally popped open
Andy Reisch - yep. Lot of tugging usually fixes any problem!
Very smart, thanks Adrian. To answer the "why bother" question here's another answer... if your starter motor is playing up (as it did on my old CBF) and you want to access the under seat area without having to switch the bike off to use the key to access it. (does that make sense?)
great idea
why not completely remove the key from the equation? do you really care if its locked? you cut the cable under the bike close to the rear seat and a loop latch? just a though, but i like your solution.
A super good idea, thanks for that. I have a question about your oil change video: unfortunately I can't understand acoustically how much oil you put in your engine. I guess it's my lousy knowledge of the English language, sorry... Can you please write the amount of oil in here? Thanks a lot for your help, Armin
Mate - as I’m not an expert or qualified I suggest you always follow the owners or workshop manual for the bike.
My videos just show what I do, and maybe encourage you to do some of your own maintenance
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Sorry I asked.
Don't be sorry. He gave a proper answer. Follow the owner or repair manual. My advice is to not automatically pour in the amount either manual specifies. Use it as a guideline! Use the engine's oil sight glass or dipstick to determine when the proper amount is achieved.
Good work. Looking at the forums, I know the cable has failed for some people, and mine has been a bit sticky at times. This is good and simple. Cheers.
Very good video as always! I cannot imagine myself on a long trip being unable to open the rear seat to refuel, still there must be a better way than a string....or something. What if the string will brake? 😀
You have a point. I have used builders twine. This stuff will take enormous load before breaking, and after all it only has to work once.
But I’d love to see a more elegant solution - you have been challenged 🤓
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I wonder if he'll accept the challenge.
Gesto and Lane - A Motorcyclists Diary - I hope so. Mr Ideal Bike is a smart bloke.
I would be inclined to exercise caution so as to not soak the string with petrol when filling up. Over time it could weaken and snap?
Great idea. I may do a cable tie around each latch and use a parachute cord instead of a string. Thanks for the video!
My seat hung up today at a gas station. But I had plenty gas to drive home. Now I'm looking for a solution.
Super idée !!!!! je vais faire la même chose sur ma moto Honda 750X dct
Very good idea! I have a Honda ST1300 and it has a cable mechanism to release the pillion seat As with your bike, it has never failed....but....
QUESTION: aside from the little storage compartment, what is the advantage of the unusual under-seat location of the fuel filler? It seems to me that it would be a PITA if you were carrying any luggage there on a long trip.
Fuel under the seat allows for the huge lockable glove box where a traditional tank usually resides.
One day it dawned on me that rearranging gear on the back seat of an NC7X to fill up is no different than having to do the same thing on a "conventional" bike with a tank bag. Six of one...half a dozen of another...
Jeff: I agree except that my tank bag is designed to be easily swung out of the way, whereas the pile-o-stuff I lash on the pillion usually isn’t.
@@assessor1276 Thinking back, the 1st gen BMW K bike tank bags was able to be zipped off the base to gain access to the filler. I suppose I would rather fiddle with that than a myriad of garb strapped on the back seat LOL.
Jeff Keniston Yup. On my ST1300 I use an SW Motec tank bag which mounts on a special “tank ring” that bolts to the fuel filler neck. The tank bag can be removed and replaced in literally a few seconds.
What if the rope breaks? Thanks
And now one for the none petrol tank (frunk) I've heard of many a person accidentally locking keys in there.
Cheers
I've of course done exactly that! Luckily I was not too far away and had a spare key at home :)
Hmm. Good suggestion
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff next time you change the air filter have a look.
Cheers
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff
Actually there's a video to an DIY opening system. Here's the link:
ruclips.net/video/okIaTrr4rbU/видео.html
Safe rides 👍🏍
andree hammerschmidt - interesting but that doesn’t address the issue of failure at the latch. All it does is add a complicated electronic system. It’s cute but I don’t see the point of it.
great tip . To save my time to put key into another keyhole
Its a " Just in Case" mod - Just like putting a extra front and rear wheel on in case you get a puncture !! Laugh now But ? Thanks for sharing
Nifty idea, yes you are odd, lol, and don't think for a second that we missed the innuendo, you bad man!! :)
Odd? Odd? Hmm. I seem to recall a story of “a pot calling the kettle black” 🤪
Now, if only I could work out how that applies!
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff 🤣😎
Brilliantly explained, great idea..
That is brilliant! Thank you
Bob’s your uncle....never heard that before.😂😂😂😂😂
Very common. I think it’s origin is England rather than Oz.
Alternately “Robert’s your mother’s brother” 😁
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_your_uncle
Thanks for the next very useful video .
The only time my pillion seat has stuck is after fitting the Shad replacement seat. Thankfully my usual answer to all life's problems (shouting, swearing and brute force) managed to finally get one side released then the other. I might have shortened the life of the key / release mechanism however. I then removed to shad pillion seat and added it to the large box labelled "spare/accessory parts for vehicles I no longer own" that I trip over on a regular basis.
This is definitely my next task on the bike once I can lever my locked-down-butt out of my armchair. 👍👍👍
Ha! Yes I agree the biggest blockage to getting anything done is getting that bloody “lock down butt” moving.
How long is a piece of string?
Muy buena idea Gracias, Saludos desde Argentina
Another great tip. Thanks mate 👍
Bloody brilliant. Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi !!
Thank you, stuff that comes up sooner or later and can cause major disappointment on a trip.
Mine 2019 failed yesterday, the day I bought the bike used. Anyone successfully open the seat without this modification? RIGHT side pops open, LEFT side is dead as disco.
With wired black👍🏼👍🏼
Great idea.
Ingenious! 😁👍🇵🇹
Brilliant, thank you
Nice one just done this just incase 👍
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it
Great idea 👍
Good one! Thanks...
Good idea
great tip....subbed to see more :D
Thanks
Imagine my disappointment this solution didn't involve a Tig welder. String....how pedestrian... lol
Garth Howe - ha! Please don’t think I didn’t considered it before the string!
OR what would you do if you accidentally locked your keys, wallet and phone in the glovebox in the middle of nowhere? Ask me how I know ..... ☹️
Oh dear. This is why I always keep a spare key handy outside the bike.
heh heh
Top tip.
Good morning from the uk. Iam having problems watching videos from Australia at the moment. Is anyone else having problems. They all seem to buffer
motorcycle wild camper - Buffering? Its border control! UK don’t want filthy Aussie data contaminating them, and rightly so 😁
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff yeah it's not only your channel it's biker bits and another Australian channel lol
I'm watching this channel from london uk without problems
@@TheQQRYQ80 it might just be my phone then 😂😂
Not buffered here in Canada. Great video, I'll sort it on the weekend! Love this bike (2017).
Can anyone lend me a time machine, I need to implement this preventative solution 20 minutes ago?
Oh dear. Sorry to hear that.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Don't worry, it's ok, I got my spare gloves trapped in the catch mechanism, next time I will stash them somewhere else, everything is fine now, nothing more to see here, move along everyone!
That’s smart
Clever idea mate had i thought of this i would have used stainless wire fishing trace but then im probably more anal retentive than you ,i down loaded a series of photos on how to get to the cams on the 500 today 19 pages later but some good info apperntly those littel hooks for the side panels are a pain but this guy had a remedy for them . according to sand waves you have thousands of theives glued to your chnnel just to see how to steal fuel from an ncx 750 now that is funny .
Well I suppose I will have to do that now because if I don't we all know what will happen yes mine will fail well thought out :)
Yes it’s a worry. Sorry about that 🤪
Genius....
Super🥰🤗
I love a tug
Great idea