As a member of a racial minority myself, I would be horrified and embarrassed to learn I didn't get into something on merit alone. You'd end up second guessing yourself and in a high stress high performance environment that relies a lot on self confidence it is fundamentally dangerous.
That’s the thing isn’t it? These measures are presented as though they are for noble causes but the inferences are all hugely insulting to women and ethnic minorities alike. They treat people like tokens. What’s that saying? The soft bigotry of low expectations. I often call out these people who take our ethnic colleagues names in vain by using them as justification to push through policies which are actually based on a complex of interconnected Critical theories aimed at the transformation of society as a whole into their ideological utopia. It’s pretty disgusting if truth be told and massively demeaning to all involved. It’s all right there in their literature for those who have the inclination to read it. They rely on people not reading it though and to an extent they’re right - most folk just swallow the sugar-coated version they are presented with.
@Top hat Animation I worked my arse off to get selected then this came out. I hate saying "as a", but as a non white female I could not have felt more betrayed.
History is repeating itself, check out McNamara's Folly: The use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War. They were a greater liability to their fellow troops than to the enemy
Had the beginnings of this experience already myself. I'm currently in the application process for Air Ops Control. Recently sat my CBAT and scored an acceptable 153 for my branch. Had a great time chatting with all the other applicants. My dad is mixed race and from the West Indies originally - although you wouldn't know it from looking at me - and this whole topic came up in conversation with the guys, together with discussion of how long people have had to wait for certain things. I chose not to disclose my ethnicity in case I was accused of any special treatment, and subsequently already begun to doubt whether i'm being given/will be given any kind of advantage for the ethnicity box ticked on my application (despite the fact I've waited 5 months for a CBAT date). It's a sad and uncomfortable situation tbh.
I'm currently serving, after 21cyears, I'm desperate to leave. Standard of officers = appalling. Standard of Airman/woman/her/him/them/it/ Shim/...gerbil = appalling. I often challenge my leadership. Often get shot down by the aforementioned. Loving it Tim, keep it up!
The standards and attitude of a lot of airman/airwoman started changing in the late eighties and early nineties. Discipline became a dirty word. Quoting of non existent regulations to avoid doing what they were told to do, and then complaining that the senior person was wrong again.
In my opinion having served in both the Army and RAF, much of the issues you describe originated with the Politically Correct Movement where, discipline and senses of morality and duty were slowly replaced with Self-Entitlement and arrogance.
@@johnnunn8688 Have you considered though if recruitment and retention were healthy you might not have had though those 4 extra years? They needed you because the services are hollowing out.
Its hard to know where to start! I'm a Vet, did my time and loved the RAF, it gave me a home, fed and paid me and gave me a chance to get on through Merit. I always found it fair and honest. Traditions could not have been stronger. I joined when a high proportion of Officers and Men had served in WW2. Bomber Command - a volunteer force - had taken 50% casualties and that does not include the very many killed in training! The Survivors were hard, fair and from all over the Commonwealth and indeed my first Flight Commander was a Pole. Mad as a march hair. He once said in Broken English, "You play ball with me and I play with your balls" which concentrated the mind! Never Never and Never did race colour or creed come into the crew room.. We trained the Nigerian, Kenyan and a dozen other Air Forces at our training centres for goodness sake. I could go on.... Point is; The RAF is a shadow of what it was and just like all the services and NHS a political football totally buggered by politicians and that includes the senior officers who have put their own comfort and feathered their own nests at the cost of the service they were supposed to put first. Shame on them.
Bloody well said sir! Thank you for your service ( a horrible Americanism, but no other way to put it from a greatfull member of the British Public, and the son of a volunteer father who served from 1940-1946 in the RAF)
@@MrNickrat Thé NHS is a pretty toxic environment too. I served in both the Armed Forces and NHS (RGN/RN) and glad to be out of it all! So thank you for staying in the NHS and doing your bit. Ian
@@bugler75 I always wish I'd been in the services when I was younger especially for the camaraderie. The NHS is pretty toxic at times but I also feel like at an operation level staff band together to get things done despite lots of issues. I imagine sometimes that's that's how it would have been in the forces with your backs up against the wall and having to find a way out.
The crux of the problem is a vulnerability to name calling, and that poison runs right through our country. When activists look at numbers *any* difference in outcomes *must* be evidence of discrimination. No other reason is considered.
Totally agree Tim this is a disgrace. Having been a pilot in the RAF myself the total lack of leadership in the senior ranks shouldn’t be a shock. Everyone is too worried about their next promotion to stick their head above the parapet and actually fight for what is right. It pains me to say but the Navy has always had a better Officer corp.
I think you’re probably right, but, what about Lizzy Nicholl? (Tim named her in vid, but I worked out who it was when the story broke). Do you think she has ended her career, or set herself up for promotion based on OQs, or fear of service being accused of discriminating against her because of what she did? 🤔
As the dad of an 11 year old who has only ever wanted to be an RAF pilot and is chomping at the bit to join the Air Cadets… I find your videos worrying. I try to nurture his interest and encourage him to work hard without being a pushy parent. But when I hear stuff like this it makes me think should I be discouraging him? If he works hard and does well, is he going to hit a brick wall just because he’s the wrong skin colour or sex! And what’s even more worrying is the point you made, it’s not just the pilots that this b***cks effects but ATC, engineers etc. Terrifying! People should get jobs on merit, not because of percentages or a tick boxing exercise. Thank you for your video and insight
I would still allow your son to join the cadets and encourage it. I myself was a US Marine explorer( their version of cadets) the discipline and drive that they instilled in me had served me throughout my entire life. The things a good group of people can give a child is truely remarkable.
My sons are in. One thing you will notice is its VERY female based. Girls win most of the awards even if they need most of the help and even when there are much better boys achieving higher grading/ scores. The other thing is it's all Woke.
The WOKE NWO Agenda in plain sight. It's clear now that humanity has been in World War 3 for many years now. We just never knew it. It's the Governments vs We the People...
I am an RAF veteran who served 12 years. I personally do not give two hoots about the colour of their skin, how they self identify or what pronouns they want to use. What I do care about is we recruit the best people stepping forward to volunteer to serve in His Majesties Armed Forces end of. There is no place for positive discrimination of anyone whether they are apply to be an Officer or Non-Commissioned. I am disgusted and embarrassed to say I served in the RAF at this juncture in time. Surely these policies are bringing the RAF into disrepute and as an Airman had I done that I would have been dealt with rather robustly.
@@windsurfer_LA They give you the illusion of choice between 2 apparently 'separate' parties. Truth is, they are just puppets. The puppet master controls both parties. No change for good will ever take place as long as we the people let them.
WEF Davos 2016 bought 179 world leaders, Sir Klaus has bought many more since then. there are No Conservative or anything govenments in the world anymore, Democracy has been subverted and is dead
Another brilliant and thought provoking video. I have twin sons, both just graduated with 1st's in Engineering (specialising in aeronautical and aerospace subjects), both fully committed to their UAS for 4 yrs (Oxford and Cambridge) and both passed CBAT Aptitude tests at Cranwell (twice!) with scores of 160+ across all subjects. One completed POT course and was awarded top cadet award. Both helped me build a 4 seat aircraft whilst taking their A levels and already PPL holders. Both applied to the RAF this year ....and both rejected. I will leave you to decide on their ethnicity and skin color....difficult to think how they could not be of value to the RAF....but will likely be aged out as they approach 24 next year.
Incredible Rod, get them to apply to the RN ASAP - I rarely see such high aptitude scores or 1sts in Eng subjects, for me this is just proof of the rot that has set in.
I do not have a PPL, I did not go to oxbridge and I have never helped build a plane, but they accepted me. I am a non white female. I wonder. Honestly I assumed because I did not go to a high end university I was automatically screwed.
Funny, when I applied to join they mentioned that they weren't even offering roles in engineering officer or pilots in early 2020. I have a 1st class engineering degree in areospace engineering. I applied as a mechanical technician in the meantime and was initially rejected despite having maxed out the AST to have any role I wanted in the ranks. (Not due to the obvious skin colour or gender but due to what I've heard after the fact to be both an absolute joke and a legal landmine) but in the end I managed to get accepted with far more effort than most. As soon as I got to Cosford (late 2021) , I was recommended to apply for a commission but the same roles weren't available. Makes you think they pre-sift the recruiting pool but it definitely shows how it's not only ideologically rampant but also superficial at the same time.
Thankyou for exposing these clowns Tim and I'm glad I've found your channel. I'm a former Rock (04-09) with a good friend who jacked at his 16 year point when working in a careers office and having to do all this dirty work. I'm more irritated that the Royal Air Force is losing many high quality, operationally experienced boys n girls to pander to a social experiment. Perhaps i should stop giving a shit but its difficult when something you were a part of now has leadership that is completely cancerous and other bizarre policies that have affected my former corps. Take care!
I'd also add that I didnt get into two police forces in 2009..... not because I failed the tests, they paused recruitment and sent a monthly letter about being "interested in hearing from persons from ethnic backgrounds". Other service related jobs have been doing this quietly for ages the RAF just injected it with roids.
Great insight Tim. As someone who's served in both the Armed Forces and police I'm just sick of this woke crap. On the policing front Suella Braverman has told Chief Constables to cut the woke nonesense and concentrate on CRIME.... there's a thing! Hopefully the RAF can take a leaf out of the RN recruitment book or the Defence Secretary takes these cretinous, weak senior officers to task
This quota and diversity thing is toxic. I can recall being at a training seminar in local government where the facilitator said "We definitely need more women in the organisation". I asked "Why?" Her face clouded over and she informed me that I had totally missed the whole point of the training session. I'm sure you still won't find many women in the lower paid jobs like digging ditches, laying pipes, spreading bitumen or driving road sweeping vehicles.
@@Sons-of-aryas Actually, even cleaners and operators of machinery in local government over here get quite good pay levels, particularly with penalty rates and overtime etc.
@@FastJetPerformance It isn't almost like Tim it is that they actually only want equality where it benefits them and this is how it has always been. We have three girls, young women now, and I would expect them to be paid the same as a male, but only if they were as capable and had got there on merit. We aren't all equal and that's a lesson that the left won't learn
SOUTH AFRICA TRIED IT !!!! HOW MANY " PREVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED " ARE FLYING THEIR GRIPPENS ?? tHE AIRLINE TRIED IT, AND ALL OF THEIR ABINITIO STUDENTS WERE FLUNKED
Hey just wanted to say that I really enjoy your channel, looking forward to your future Tornado DCS content & anything you bring out really. Appreciate your work!
Tim, I was a police officer for 25yrs. Began at Hendon Police College. 20 weeks of instruction on law with an exam every 2 weeks. Then upon leaving and joining my first area I was on probation for 2yrs. Once a month MORE exams then one final exam after two years. Then came confirmation of employment ( any major cock ups regarding exams you were history) . Standards then dropped due to the need for more ethnic minorities to join. Exams then became very rare and gradual assessment was introduced etc etc. It was found that many didn’t KNOW law when out on the streets due to that change. I totally agree that standards should never drop and if you want the best, standards should remain high despite what colour you are or sex. As you know this is happening all the time now and is ILLEGAL! Very informative piece showing the illegality of Whitehall and MOD 👍
Thank you, Nicholas, as you may know I have a police family so I am well aware of this. We attract the right people precisely because of the standards we uphold, if people see scruffy police or officers who don't know the law when challenged and put on youtube then why would they want to join an outfit like that? Totally agree with you here.
Thanks for keeping this current tim, I have 2 daughters and I want them judged on their merit not because they tick a box. If they got into the raf I would want them to say: "hey dad I worked hard and was the best"
Exactly what they used to do in the UK police during the early 1990's. I joined in an intake of 30 people. 28 x white european men and women and 2 x BAME. The white europeans had all waited 2 or more years for a vacancy. The BAME folk had got in in less than 2 months. Even back then it caused aggravation between us.
To understand why CAS has this "No 1 priority", you need to look at the House of Commons Library Report on UK Defence Personnel Statistics that was published on 23 August 2022. Here is the headline from that report in relation to Diversity: "On 1 April 2022, around 9.6% of personnel (14,110) self-identified as belonging to a minority ethnic group (compared to an estimated 14.3% of the total UK population). The Army had the highest proportion of minority ethnic personnel (14.0%), followed by the RN/RM (4.8%) and RAF (3.5%)." I believe that CAS is mistaken in making this such a priority, but you can be sure that people senior to him are quoting this report to him regularly! Keep up the good work Tim.
@@FastJetPerformance The same HoC reports on Gender as follows: "On 1 April 2022 there were 16,680 women in the UK Regular Forces, who accounted for 11.3% of the total trained and untrained strength. The proportion of women in the Future Reserves 2020 is slightly higher at 15.6%. Women are best represented in the RAF, where they form 15.4% of UK Regular personnel and 23.0% of Reserve personnel". The equivalent percentage or the RN/RM & the Army is the same at 10%. In all 3 Services, it has taken 33 years to double the percentage of women serving so the current targets for women are rather ambitious.
Tim, you once helped me through email and even a post on your FJP Facebook page with my initial email to you about failure to secure a role in NATS on my bday whilst working toward becoming a pilot etc. Your words of wisdom and analogy about the car having the flat tyres is one I now give to people I help and I always reference a top fighter pilot telling me this. You motivated me to go on and pass all my commercial training which took me 5 years total but I got there with top marks and first time passes practical and theoretical. I can say from experience that you fighting the good fight for those in hard places and now it seems even trying to join the service with good marks and motivation behind them is more needed and essential than those in high places will ever know. I want to say thanks on behalf of all of us who you have helped in one way or another and clearly continue to do so.
@@FastJetPerformance you told me that people who have never had a flat tyre don’t know how to deal with it. Key is to go get some flat tyres (failures), change them and keep going with the journey and not throw the whole car away.
@@FastJetPerformance I appreciate it, Tim. Young guys like myself back then benefit from someone who has been there and done it like yourself. Reachable positive role models is what this society lacks at times.
My thought: "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. A privileged person always thinks equality is a disadvantage for them. The society is flashing out that mentality. Peace✌
Great to see someone putting there money where their mouth is. Respect to you Tim my grandfather who flew in WW2 would roll in his grave at the modern RAF recruitment methods. Keep up the great work at keeping them honest, respect…
Well said....the UK military used to be about merit and it was proudly non-political. Current leadership have replaced merit with diversity/ quotas and are political operators under corrupt permanent and parliamentary government. It spits in the face of those who fought and died to oppose these things. Shameful.
This is a major issue adversely affecting operational excellence; the constant lowering of the recruitment bar in order to meet D&I targets, against 21st century threats to national and global security. A double negative. It is now rife, and in every institution, be it military, civil, educational or political. I have lived and worked in the USA these past 25 years. I have as many years experience in Org Dev, including writing and facilitating D&I (based on values and diversity of thought, not race, colour etc...) Following my recent divorce, also of 25 years, I am returning home to the UK. A few weeks ago, I applied for an Org Dev position at my local council in the borough I was born. My credentials were perfect, and being a home town lad, my candidacy was ideal. Last week, I received an email from the recruitment team, saying I have not been selected for interview. I was one step ahead, having already, researched, the organisation chart of the council, and the HR team, this position reports to. 19 people make up the team, 17 of them women. My disqualification, demonstrates how this once insidious behavior has moved far beyond and is now ubiquitous, and its damaging consequences adversely discriminatory and downright dangerous. I'm so thankful for people like Tim, who are standing up for not just what's ethically right, but what's legally right! Thank you Tim for your advocacy on this issue. I would be more than happy to rewrite the D&I curriculum for the RAF. One based on diversity of thought, and the extraction of the latent potential of intelligent minds, with no reference to the colour of the skin that encases them.
I'm ex army (worked on Apaches yeah), I don't understand all this ridiculous BAME/Woke crap now, when will they be happy, what when EVERYONE is a Bame/Genderless vegan thats highly emotionally unstable? In fact this goes for everything nowadays. Getting ridiculous. Love the channel Tim
Saw these shenanigans in the Fire and Rescue Service too. Women and ethnics chosen over more capable white males who were clearly better. I interviewed an ex para who was in the top 5 in every test. He was great in the interview and I put him forward for selection. Never saw him again but a lot of women went through who did not perform as well. Just after a report had been issued to increase the numbers of women and ethnics in the job.
Unfortunately a sign of the times Tim. It’s happening all over the place in the UK and I would say the wider world in general. Very sad that the world has gotten to this place. Merit should be the only metric when it comes to selecting the right candidates. Another great video
Here’s a radical idea, that CAS’s number one priority should be simply ensuring that all of the Royal Air Force’s personnel and recruitment is not about diversity but is simply ensuring that the sharp end of the service is able to perform its role - as it used to! This diversity rubbish needs to be binned ASAP along with the stupid accounting rules from the civil service that see stores of munitions as wasted capital.
Absolutely shocking, bending or more appropriately breaking the rules of selection to appease the current drive for ‘diversity’ within the service at the cost of destroying operational effectiveness and capability!
CLASS ACTION is THE ONLY way forward. I used to fly at RAF Cosford. Known for it's great engineering background/hub including RADAR, Photography/Aerial Cartography. It's tragic that an establishment such as the RAF (that I held in such high regard) has resorted to 'cherry-picking-box-ticking' to meet so-called 'diversity targets' instead of employing based purely on talent, merit and aptitude. RAF. Utter disgrace. Sort yourselves out.
I”m outraged by this blatant disregard for the employment law amongst other legislation. I’m approaching retirement age after a career in military aviation and have seen many good and not so good ideas ‘run up the flagpole’, whosoever is saluting this puppy needs to be medically discharged on mental health grounds. There are many (good sometimes) arguments for more non-white males in certain roles, but In certain areas it’s lunacy… Ask Juergen Klopp to get with the programme and have 20% of his 1st team squad to be replaced by LGBT / Women… Tell the OC of 40 Commando the same… Tell the CAS that (wait, scrap that). I understand there is a huge vote winner in ‘bigging up’ the non-white male agenda, but let’s not destroy things in trying to satisfy the over zealous dogooders. Sadly, I feel my chances of a MOBO this year are diminishing yet again.
Asking a question I don't know the answer to, but has this been challenged in court? This is damaging to people applying being sifted out on immutable characteristics.
Gripes go up, even if... especially if the Peter Principle is playing out. Leaders surrounded by yes men (slash women), historically not awesome. Blind selection is the only way. Nailed it Tim.
Wow!! very interesting, I had no idea that sort of crap was going down in the RAF selection process. What sort of RAF are we going to have in just a few years from now? Scary stuff one thinks.
I've been in application process for little over a year and can only hope the reason for my length isn't because I'm a white man. I've asked and challenged my recruiter about it and was reassured - but who really knows.
Thanks for the help and advice with regards to this. I'll see what can be done and might draft up that letter and hold it in reserve until it may be required. Be well.
@@windsurfer_LA The RN are aware of the RAF doing this and are loving the fact that it allows the RN to get some excellent talent joining them instead.
As a retired RAFVR(T) Flt Lt with 33 years service mainly as a squadron commander of two ATC squadrons (19 & 6 years) many cadets went on to serve in the UK Armed Forces. Many of the cadets used their service to either confirm their wish to join the services or it illustrated that this was not the life for them, both useful aspects of the Corps. If a cadet went to the CIO (careers information office) and applied to join whichever service they wished to join, we would get a questionnaire from the appropriate service asking for mainly, a character reference... As the cadets commanding officer and having knowledge of the cadets service, ability, and commitment as well as their character... In the later years of my service the RAF stopped asking the ATC cadets CO's anything about their service in the Corps, from around 2006! Might have been our local CIO but I suspect it was a nationwide thing! Surprisingly my squadron had more cadets joining the Royal Navy as pilots than the RAF, I suspect the issue was most of the candidates were 6 footers or taller and as a recruiter once told me 'there is more headroom in a Hercules and a helicopter than a fast jet BUT we don't recruit transport pilots'!!!!
Congratulations Tim on making the whole country aware of this scandal. That is what service to your country looks like. You sad an example for everyone today and hopefully for a long time to come.
@@FastJetPerformance It's just the truth. Nevertheless it is probably a sign of the times in which we live today. That it is you who acknowledge this scandal and not some aktiv serving member. Without comen sense there is no chance of freedom. Freedom is the thing I think all of us who served in the armed forces of our respective countries want to protect. Thanks again and keep up your great work.
If you look at cardio-thoracic surgeons working in the NHS, you'll find that BAME practitioners at all levels from top of the profession to the bottom are _over_-represented as to national demographics, but that women - despite being over-represented in some medical specialities, including surgical specialties, are only about 5% of them. But it's impossible to claim that somebody who makes a great heart surgeon wouldn't have potentially made a great engineering officer in another life, unless they are fine with blood but faint at the sight of hydraulic fluid... similarly, the fact that only 5% of heart surgeons are women doesn't mean that the women who went on to be stars in other medical or surgical fields wouldn't have been great cardio-thoracic surgeons had they chosen to enter that specialty & not shunned the specialty to be brain surgeons or whatever. I haven't checked, but I think the medical profession _IS_ near enough 50-50, whereas neither the piloting profession nor the profession of arms are, but that's a whole different can of worms. Nor does the fact that BAME candidates are over-represented in UK medicine imply that 'white British' people can't cut it. You could argue that in a time of shortage of NHS staff now, because of the loss of many Europeans, if any ethnic or gender group in British society isn't broadly represented in the NHS at every level & [less clearcut] in every specialty IN the NHS, it is leaving talent it needs on the table. I note that you distinguished between the desirability of the police force looking like the society it polices & comes from, & of the armed forces ditto. I'm not sure that in peacetime armed forces, particularly when ever more of them are reservists who are expected to volunteer to give up evenings & weekends to train to be ready to take part in operations where getting killed is a realistic prospect as part of a sense of civic duty, that you have that correct. And in any case, the people whose taxes pay for all the shiny toys that seem pointless to so many in an austere peacetime need to feel ownership of & a stake in the armed forces, & the clear majority of them are BAME &/or female.. I'm sure if you went into Nandos with a bunch of vouchers to find a bunch of future white heart surgeons it would end badly in all the ways you are describing with BAME pilots, but if you decided it mattered that almost all the women graduating as junior doctors chose to be something other than a heart surgeon, it seems like it would be possible to do obvious interventions to recruit more of the talent pool of about to be newly minted doctors to do heart surgery rather than gynaecology or brain surgery, identify any specific barriers to entry & knock them down, etc etc. But it would be a completely different intervention than the one you would need to get more white people interested in being surgeons rather than... say... RAF pilots. If the RAF cannot find quality fighter pilot candidates among ethnic minorities, it's not because they don't exist. If they are all queuing up to become heart surgeons instead, that's one potential issue, & if the system is somehow filtering them out incorrectly that's another different issue. Either way, you seem to be saying that as long as this week we have enough enthusiastic high test score white guys to fill the remaining cockpits we still have this week, who cares about diversity? I served in the TA back in the 1980's in a part of the UK with a disproportionately large BAME population. Everybody in my TA infantry unit was white, most of them were casually racist, & when a sikh guy joined another TA company elsewhere in the region under the same Battalion HQ, I felt like a fly on the wall at a National Front rally for the 6 months he lasted. Obviously that was a _very_ long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, & at the time to my eternal shame I just kept my mouth shut & opinions to myself because I enjoyed all the fun pointy ended bangy stuff, but obviously, in hindsight, f*ck that. Me now would have fired the whole Battalion into the sun & started again if _I_ had been in charge. But I wouldn't have to bother because the government did the first part of that at the end of the cold war. Call me too woke if you like, but diversity _does_ matter, & when you are explaining to UKCivpop in peacetime why the RAF needs taxpayers to fund _this_ expensive capability or _that_ extra squadron, it seems like it would help.
Slightly off topic, but part of the reason that the NHS is filling up with foreign nurses is that it costs 27 grand out of your own pocket to train as a nurse, and your starting salary is less than you'd get working at Costa Coffee (and they don't need you to do 27 grand's worth of training!)
I think we're getting a little confused to as to what diversity is actually suposed to be. Diversity is about the sharing of a common value and standard - it has nothing to do with race or sex but it's been hijacked so that people think that it is. If the RAF was to set out it's stall and say 'this is what we believe in' then it would attract like-minded individuals who also share these values and standards. Forcing diversity of races and sexes in a meritocratic hierachal instituion I find cavalier and bordering on the dangerous when people are recruited soley because of their skin colour or sex.
People are getting grief at work for even talking about this. I had a very ‘interesting’ one way chat with the warrant and JO for the mere suggestion that there was anything wrong with what RAF recruitment attempted to do.
You need to get the trainers in your D&I sessions to say whether they agree with this or not - they need to be clear that this is wrong, if not, they are indoctrinating you. Keep pushing!
@@packersfanforlife7903 - Are you sure its illegal based on UK law? Given the shear number (dozens?) that appear to be doing this, I think it unlikely that it is illegal. And based on Tim's tracking of the state of the RAF racial discrimination issues, one has to ask: Why are formerly patriotic red blooded British Military Pilots going to China? Obviously the money is good, but I suspect that this group has lost faith in the British system and no longer feels a strong sense of loyalty to the country. It has to be more than just the money, and a failure to look inward (by the UK Gov't/Military) will only serve to reinforce the belief that the system is corrupt. But I'm not holding my breath for any UK Gov't Official to take some ownership in the situation. It's just to easy to call them traitors.
History shows when the people are starving and have nothing left to lose But this time an unpresidented amount of new digital tech will aid the Tyrants to keep power
Not only do we need the right PERSON for the job academically, we also need people with grit. The ebbing away of grit and discipline is becoming more noticeable almost daily. We need the right people who we can train and train hard.
I think they should be educating schools on career development for young kids who want to be in the RAF. When I was at school/college, there were no options available for anyone, and was one of those kids who always wondered what I needed to do to serve in the RAF. It was quite a daunting task to think about as a young black male so I kinda just forgot about it. I think if they do this, they might get genuine interest from minorities at a younger age who can get the position both on merit, and legally!!! Great Video Tim, Big up!!!
All the white men whose applications to join were obstructed during this period till they aged out I think should strongly consider coming together and launching a class action lawsuit against the RAF for discrimination.
Tim The first line of your response is exactly what I was talking about. The MoD and armed forces leaders are concentrating their efforts, not just on DEI but on "fighting" global warming (catch all weasel expression is 'climate change'). Vegetarian options in the Mess, an electric tank and powering fighter jets with alcohol, algae and household waste! To outdo the army, Sir Mike Wigston wants the RAF to achieve net zero CO2 by 2040.
Just found your channel. There is so much truth in what you are saying. I see it, I hear about it. Who gets the job, should be the best able to do the job regardless of skin colour, race, gender.
I would have thought you would have somthing to say about the latest news?. We are now training the Chinese on fast jet tactics etc ....................
There is nothing wrong with a recruitment drive from people from say "none indigenous backgrounds", I'm sure they can be as fierce and dedicated as anyone else (assuming they have the feeling of belonging and the need to defend their heritage, but that's a whole different discussion). but the idea that some volunteers who put themselves forward should be denied accept to favour some less capable applicants, because of their background is not just laughable, but in the sense of national defence it should be "Criminal"!
I am a white male and 15 years old and want to join at 18 years old and currently I am in the RAFAC. Does this then mean that i will be able to join or not. After speaking to staff and my OC at squadron, they said that recruitment is still going of ability and nothing else but after reading other sources this seems to be false. Is this correct?
This really makes me angry. I managed to get through to OASC as a pilot but was rejected. I wonder if the RAF prioritised BAME and Woman over me... who knows!
It's pretty simple, really. If they did away with a process that was purely merit-based (blind), than merit isn't the primary motivation. Ergo, people at the top are more than happy to have standards go to hell for ideological reasons. Everything else they claim is just weasel-word salad to justify the unjustifiable.
This is a failure of our politicians. The senior managers who run our armed forces, the police & NHS are all answerable to politicians. If senior managers are guilty of serious misconduct by failing to stop violations of the law (E.g. Unlawful discrimination) and failing to respect their organization's mandate (E.g. Remaining politically neutral) then politicians have the power to challenge them and, if necessary, remove them from their position.
It’s ridiculous, I’d say it’s the same with the medical standards. I felt I was still discriminated by just because of my medical history. I had made it into the university air squadron, shown I can do everything that the RAF want through my short period at the air squadron and my five years at the cadets. Obviously it’s toned down slightly but shooting, flying etc was easy to me…. I went through interviews, they wanted me. But their strict medical standards didn’t, shattered me if I’m honest, they didn’t look at me or give me a chance it was just a phone call and ‘you failed’. It is not fair.
I was involved for many years in putting wet stuff on hot stuff, it seems to me that as they were desperate to undertake the same process. I think it may be passed down from a place in London somewhere. Great video once again.
A few years ago I was fairly successful in my job and started to become I would say somewhat over confident . I was able to breeze my way through almost any interview. I once became so good at it I ended up getting myself into a senior management position I was absolutely ill eqipped for and I can tell you there are few things worse in your profession than realising you are unable to live up to the expectations placed on you and then realising everybody else realised it a long time before you did.
Ive had the talk with my lad, he was going to join the RAF, following in my footsteps, but we heard of this 'positive discrimination' and diversity thing. Shame really, he still is an Air Cadet, now looking to do do his PPL and concentrate on that first, then see what happens going forward, but he has been put off the RAF
I would have joined the RAF to scrub the floors. The problem is, I'm female, and my parents came to the UK in order to give me a better life, and I am very visibly not from around here. I do not want to be a diversity hire. I do not want to spend my whole life wondering if I'm really any good at what I'm doing. I had a Cranwell date and I withdrew. Because of this. They want people with a spine and a moral core? Well, I like to think I have those things and I don't want this.
I would recommend the RN, I joined the RN first and it was very inclusive of all - you sound like a woman of sound moral character, I expect you will go on to do very well in life, thank you for writing.
@@FastJetPerformance Sorry Tim, too late, look for me in the front of an Emirates A380 in a year or three. On the other hand if I survive living in Dubai as a single south asian female maybe I will actually deserve some sort of prize!
Interesting how through your contacts how the plot thickens with regards to how the RAF are currently recruiting ie not the best candidate but the one that ticks certain boxes. The RAF have for years talked about integrity but clearly and in the case of CAS, don't then apply it.
Yes, it is blatant to see for all that CAS is going silent on this, the journos must be surrounding him like sharks at the moment as they hate the cold shoulder treatment. I'm calling out the Squadron Commanders and Air Officers in the next video, you don't get to hold the King's Commission and not speak out about injustices when you have the power to do so. The Senior Leadership Team should all go for this appalling and illegal behaviour.
Urgh… this makes me sick. Apart from anything else… how much time, effort and money is being wasted pursuing this❓Assess, pick the best and get on with expending your energies on improving the defence of our country. I recently retired after spending my whole working life in the RAF (40years) and we never had a discrimination issue, in fact I’ve trained, worked and flown with all the groups being mentioned here and it was literally no big deal…. 🤬
With all this coming to light, alongside the Sky news articles, why is the RAF not being held to higher account or legal action? What even is the repercussion for being found guilty of positive discrimination, what about all the lads who have now aged out and now missed the only opportunity they will ever get, is their any legal justice for them/compensation?! Just seems absolutely backwards and I'm puzzled how there doesn't seem to be more sever consequences for this pass bad press.
As an ex RAF member I'm disgusted with what is happening to a once proud service .At a time when we need our Air Force at its best what with Putin and China . Wigston is playing politics and thinking of only his career and not the future and strength of the RAF . Wigston needs to go !!!
Qualification, aptitude, skill and ability for any job, no creed,race,colour or disability should make any difference. What appears to be knee jerk over sensitivity must stop but all corridors must be open for all the above listed 🕊 Lest we forget🕊🇬🇧
For FJ Aircrew, I worry about these policies. If they're going to recruit from lower aptitudes, at least be honest & tell it as it is; have a defined scheme that recruits on shared values & identified potential rather than enact this secretive shady positive-descrimination bs. Slightly different, but I'm old enough to have worked alongside guys & gals who joined the RAF under the YTS as Flight Line Mechanics (Flems) & what a huge talent pool the Air Force got, with many progressing, on merit, to fitters courses & beyond. Done properly, with transparency, throwing a wider recruiting-net can & does work.
My apologies, of course it's for all aircrew, slow or fast, not just FJ!! Your life in their hands & all that, echoing the heart-surgeon analogy! I've trusted my life to multi-engine RAF crews hundreds of times, but only once to a FJ pilot at Wattisham. On that occasion, in 1990, I was very happy to know I was being piloted by the best of the best. (It also helped that I'd personally B/F'd the phantom I flew in 😉). Good memories.
All people want is a fair shot (literally an equal opportunity, if they have the aptitude), not a free pass. I would be horrified, if I found out I'd been selected over someone else, to hit some ridiculous quota.
Only when you look at all that's going on recently from the perspective that it is being done on purpose, only then does this destruction of all that used to be normal make sense.
As a tax payer all I want are the best pilots, soldiers, sailors, engineers and any other disciplines required to run these services. The best is all that matters and Recruitment should have that nailed to their door as a reminder. If you only look up to someone because they look like you then you are problem. When war breaks out and we don’t have the best then we will all suffer as a consequence. History showed we were the best and that’s why we are free now but this can never be taken for granted.
What are your thoughts on us joining the Permanent Structured Cooperation - PESCO and effectively being under EU C&C. Not heard anything about this in the media, yet it seems like a monumental decision taken without any parliamentary debate. What are the ramifications for our role/funding in NATO and UK defence industry? I'd be very interested in your no nonsense thoughts on this.
@@FastJetPerformance Exactly, 40 years ago people laughted at Yuri Bezmenov saying the wests institutions are too strong to be subverted. they aint no more
And so the RAF admit mistakes were made over recruitment - You can't fight discrimination with discrimination. Maybe the police force could also take a look at this !
Hi, I am a young white man who kept thinking about joining the RAF the past 2 years. Would appreciate any advice on the current state of the RAF, like is it not worth it now because of my gender and ethnicity? I'm very concerned by this news story
True. The Police are a bit different though in that they are there to represent society. The military are not there to represent anything other than the defense of the country.
@@SimDeck no they are still vest for the job, if 2 black officers turned up to take a statement and I demanded representation on race grounds whay do you think would happen?
@@SimDeck I wish that were true, there were black in black crime units and minority victims can request an officer that looks like them. Because its allowed when it goes in one direction
@@SimDeck I don't think the Police are there to represent society, but to catch those who break the law and to deter other from doing so. Because most Police forces are formed on a regional bases, they'd recruit locally, so the Bobby on the beat would often be representative of the local community and in days of the Bobby on the beat a local person with local knowledge was useful.
Just seen you on Sky News, well done Tim! 👏 👏👏👏👏 finally got them to admit it. Shame CAS didn't take responsibility in his interview, failing the Service Test on integrity I'd say.
I personally don't understand why the service would degrade itself in such a way. Employing people based on merit/performance and not their racial background is essential to being an effective force. I completely understand that there should be no discrimination against racial minorities etc, but if they're not at the standard of their fellow applicants, they should not be pushed ahead of them. Does this strategy not devalue the credibility of those racial minorities that have recently joined? Surely they must be demotivated by the fact that they've been employed based on the colour of their skin and not their ability to perform their role? I honestly do not understand why there is a specific quota for diversity - it is inherently damaging no matter which way you look at it.
Why are the RAF not focusing on women and minorities at a younger age? Getting into communities with cadets and going into schools etc and encouraging these cohorts to consider it as a career path? Surely that's a better way to address diversity in the long term as you'll end up with people who actually want to be in the RAF and will have the right mindset and skills for it?
Why would they focus on JUST women and minorities? Focus on selecting the BEST people though a common, fair and LEGAL recruitment process. It's that simple
@@Aerofoil-Cinematics Yeah - to be fair I could've worded that better. They should focus on everyone, but if they want a more diverse workforce then it has to start earlier in my opinion. But they should be equally targeting everyone.
40 years ago, they did just that. RN. RM, Army and RAF careers people would rock up from their various offices and spend time with the 12-14 year old's discussing potential career paths and the best education routes for them to achieve this. I spent a fair chunk of the 80's travelling the UK going to fetes and fairs where there was always a recruiting presence. This just doesn't appear to happen anymore, and the services are worse off for it.
@@namboozleUK My daughter was a HR director for a very large construction company that had contractswith HS2 London Tideway Crossrail etc.they had have on the books ex amount of appretices and yes ex amount of females,that was a part of the contract,they used to try and arrange visits to schools and colleges to show that"construction" had a huge variety of highly skilled and highly paid trades but they often met with a very negative attitude in the schools but not quite as much in tech colleges,there was a"ladies " school in west London who gave her yery short shrift "we educate our girls to a high standard,not be bricklayers"! this was only 3yrs ago! Where does it all start start and finish. thank god i am an OAP now!
They want women in teeth arms not because they bring any benefit but because if they serve in a combat unit and stay the course then one day they might become CDS or head of a service. They have to have the numbers to hide that that person's career path may have been massaged. The idea of red-blooded warrior human resources bods is truly terrifying.
Not so much a truth bomb in the attack shack more like a Vulcan's worth of truth nukes! Boooooom! Go get 'em, Tim! Group Captain recruitment needs promoting and other senior officers take her lead.
Thank you Tim. This madness has to stop. We always must insist on the best candidates for the roles. And I say this as a non-white person. A rather gorgeous olive skin complexion - even if I say so myself ;-)
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Seems possible that your most important role in RAF was actually outside of it Tim. Glad people such as yourself are actively exposing this situation.
Thank you, Ryan, very kind of you.
We’ll said Tim, I’ve been following these discussions regularly and couldn’t agree more with you, it’s utterly shameful what’s has been happening
As a member of a racial minority myself, I would be horrified and embarrassed to learn I didn't get into something on merit alone. You'd end up second guessing yourself and in a high stress high performance environment that relies a lot on self confidence it is fundamentally dangerous.
That’s the thing isn’t it? These measures are presented as though they are for noble causes but the inferences are all hugely insulting to women and ethnic minorities alike. They treat people like tokens. What’s that saying? The soft bigotry of low expectations.
I often call out these people who take our ethnic colleagues names in vain by using them as justification to push through policies which are actually based on a complex of interconnected Critical theories aimed at the transformation of society as a whole into their ideological utopia.
It’s pretty disgusting if truth be told and massively demeaning to all involved.
It’s all right there in their literature for those who have the inclination to read it.
They rely on people not reading it though and to an extent they’re right - most folk just swallow the sugar-coated version they are presented with.
@Top hat Animation I worked my arse off to get selected then this came out. I hate saying "as a", but as a non white female I could not have felt more betrayed.
History is repeating itself, check out McNamara's Folly: The use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War. They were a greater liability to their fellow troops than to the enemy
Had the beginnings of this experience already myself. I'm currently in the application process for Air Ops Control. Recently sat my CBAT and scored an acceptable 153 for my branch. Had a great time chatting with all the other applicants. My dad is mixed race and from the West Indies originally - although you wouldn't know it from looking at me - and this whole topic came up in conversation with the guys, together with discussion of how long people have had to wait for certain things. I chose not to disclose my ethnicity in case I was accused of any special treatment, and subsequently already begun to doubt whether i'm being given/will be given any kind of advantage for the ethnicity box ticked on my application (despite the fact I've waited 5 months for a CBAT date). It's a sad and uncomfortable situation tbh.
I commented almost exactly the same thing verbatim, before even noticing your comment. I once refused a job offer for the exact reason.
I'm currently serving, after 21cyears, I'm desperate to leave. Standard of officers = appalling. Standard of Airman/woman/her/him/them/it/ Shim/...gerbil = appalling. I often challenge my leadership. Often get shot down by the aforementioned. Loving it Tim, keep it up!
The standards and attitude of a lot of airman/airwoman started changing in the late eighties and early nineties. Discipline became a dirty word. Quoting of non existent regulations to avoid doing what they were told to do, and then complaining that the senior person was wrong again.
@@tonyhaynes9080 I would say it was accelerated by disestablishing the women's services.
@@tonyhaynes9080, yep and it’s why I left after 26 years, although I would love to have stayed in.
In my opinion having served in both the Army and RAF, much of the issues you describe originated with the Politically Correct Movement where, discipline and senses of morality and duty were slowly replaced with Self-Entitlement and arrogance.
@@johnnunn8688 Have you considered though if recruitment and retention were healthy you might not have had though those 4 extra years? They needed you because the services are hollowing out.
Its hard to know where to start! I'm a Vet, did my time and loved the RAF, it gave me a home, fed and paid me and gave me a chance to get on through Merit. I always found it fair and honest. Traditions could not have been stronger. I joined when a high proportion of Officers and Men had served in WW2. Bomber Command - a volunteer force - had taken 50% casualties and that does not include the very many killed in training!
The Survivors were hard, fair and from all over the Commonwealth and indeed my first Flight Commander was a Pole. Mad as a march hair. He once said in Broken English, "You play ball with me and I play with your balls" which concentrated the mind!
Never Never and Never did race colour or creed come into the crew room.. We trained the Nigerian, Kenyan and a dozen other Air Forces at our training centres for goodness sake.
I could go on.... Point is; The RAF is a shadow of what it was and just like all the services and NHS a political football totally buggered by politicians and that includes the senior officers who have put their own comfort and feathered their own nests at the cost of the service they were supposed to put first. Shame on them.
Bloody well said sir! Thank you for your service ( a horrible Americanism, but no other way to put it from a greatfull member of the British Public, and the son of a volunteer father who served from 1940-1946 in the RAF)
As an NHS employee I thank you for your service, and a post that sums up how I feel but articulated in a way I could never do!
@@MrNickrat And thank you for yours sir.
@@MrNickrat Thé NHS is a pretty toxic environment too. I served in both the Armed Forces and NHS (RGN/RN) and glad to be out of it all!
So thank you for staying in the NHS and doing your bit.
Ian
@@bugler75 I always wish I'd been in the services when I was younger especially for the camaraderie. The NHS is pretty toxic at times but I also feel like at an operation level staff band together to get things done despite lots of issues. I imagine sometimes that's that's how it would have been in the forces with your backs up against the wall and having to find a way out.
The crux of the problem is a vulnerability to name calling, and that poison runs right through our country.
When activists look at numbers *any* difference in outcomes *must* be evidence of discrimination. No other reason is considered.
Totally agree Tim this is a disgrace. Having been a pilot in the RAF myself the total lack of leadership in the senior ranks shouldn’t be a shock. Everyone is too worried about their next promotion to stick their head above the parapet and actually fight for what is right. It pains me to say but the Navy has always had a better Officer corp.
The Officer branch will not say anything in case it has a detrimental affect on their next promotion.
and it would
Visit raf Cosford. Most of them are African.
I think you’re probably right, but, what about Lizzy Nicholl? (Tim named her in vid, but I worked out who it was when the story broke). Do you think she has ended her career, or set herself up for promotion based on OQs, or fear of service being accused of discriminating against her because of what she did? 🤔
Great stuff Tim. Please keep on this as you seem to be the only voice of reason with any kind of platform.
Be careful though, Voices-Of-Reason saying hurty opinions seem to be getting 'cancelled' (or jailed) these days.....
Thank you, Sim.
@@wirdy1 about to day the same 😁
As the dad of an 11 year old who has only ever wanted to be an RAF pilot and is chomping at the bit to join the Air Cadets… I find your videos worrying. I try to nurture his interest and encourage him to work hard without being a pushy parent. But when I hear stuff like this it makes me think should I be discouraging him? If he works hard and does well, is he going to hit a brick wall just because he’s the wrong skin colour or sex! And what’s even more worrying is the point you made, it’s not just the pilots that this b***cks effects but ATC, engineers etc. Terrifying! People should get jobs on merit, not because of percentages or a tick boxing exercise. Thank you for your video and insight
I would still allow your son to join the cadets and encourage it. I myself was a US Marine explorer( their version of cadets) the discipline and drive that they instilled in me had served me throughout my entire life. The things a good group of people can give a child is truely remarkable.
Royal Navy have pilots too. Furthermore, your son is around 10 years off yet. This madness won’t last that long.
@@paladamashkin8981 Your absolutely right, don’t think I’d stop him joining if I wanted to.
@@reczy Hopefully not, and the Navy is always an option. No reason why he cant apply to both
My sons are in. One thing you will notice is its VERY female based. Girls win most of the awards even if they need most of the help and even when there are much better boys achieving higher grading/ scores. The other thing is it's all Woke.
This is not about the RAF, it is a broader capture and decline of institutions upon which the nation was built.
Look to the RNLI for further proof.
Quite. The fact it's in the armed forces just shows how far the disease has spread
@@Odysseuss. RNLI CEO gets £200,000 plus expenses, plus Limo, plus paid foreign junkets, to tell foreigners how not to drown
It's over. If this is happening under a conservative government, there is no hope.
The WOKE NWO Agenda in plain sight. It's clear now that humanity has been in World War 3 for many years now. We just never knew it. It's the Governments vs We the People...
@@windsurfer_LA ain't that the truth
I am an RAF veteran who served 12 years. I personally do not give two hoots about the colour of their skin, how they self identify or what pronouns they want to use. What I do care about is we recruit the best people stepping forward to volunteer to serve in His Majesties Armed Forces end of. There is no place for positive discrimination of anyone whether they are apply to be an Officer or Non-Commissioned. I am disgusted and embarrassed to say I served in the RAF at this juncture in time. Surely these policies are bringing the RAF into disrepute and as an Airman had I done that I would have been dealt with rather robustly.
@@windsurfer_LA They give you the illusion of choice between 2 apparently 'separate' parties. Truth is, they are just puppets. The puppet master controls both parties. No change for good will ever take place as long as we the people let them.
WEF Davos 2016 bought 179 world leaders, Sir Klaus has bought many more since then. there are No Conservative or anything govenments in the world anymore,
Democracy has been subverted and is dead
Another brilliant and thought provoking video. I have twin sons, both just graduated with 1st's in Engineering (specialising in aeronautical and aerospace subjects), both fully committed to their UAS for 4 yrs (Oxford and Cambridge) and both passed CBAT Aptitude tests at Cranwell (twice!) with scores of 160+ across all subjects. One completed POT course and was awarded top cadet award. Both helped me build a 4 seat aircraft whilst taking their A levels and already PPL holders. Both applied to the RAF this year ....and both rejected. I will leave you to decide on their ethnicity and skin color....difficult to think how they could not be of value to the RAF....but will likely be aged out as they approach 24 next year.
Incredible Rod, get them to apply to the RN ASAP - I rarely see such high aptitude scores or 1sts in Eng subjects, for me this is just proof of the rot that has set in.
@@FastJetPerformance Thanks and yes I they have already put their applications in - will keep you posted!
I do not have a PPL, I did not go to oxbridge and I have never helped build a plane, but they accepted me. I am a non white female. I wonder. Honestly I assumed because I did not go to a high end university I was automatically screwed.
@@FastJetPerformance Sorry the RN are fecked too, all the top jobs are WEF puppets
Funny, when I applied to join they mentioned that they weren't even offering roles in engineering officer or pilots in early 2020. I have a 1st class engineering degree in areospace engineering. I applied as a mechanical technician in the meantime and was initially rejected despite having maxed out the AST to have any role I wanted in the ranks. (Not due to the obvious skin colour or gender but due to what I've heard after the fact to be both an absolute joke and a legal landmine) but in the end I managed to get accepted with far more effort than most. As soon as I got to Cosford (late 2021) , I was recommended to apply for a commission but the same roles weren't available. Makes you think they pre-sift the recruiting pool but it definitely shows how it's not only ideologically rampant but also superficial at the same time.
Thankyou for exposing these clowns Tim and I'm glad I've found your channel. I'm a former Rock (04-09) with a good friend who jacked at his 16 year point when working in a careers office and having to do all this dirty work. I'm more irritated that the Royal Air Force is losing many high quality, operationally experienced boys n girls to pander to a social experiment. Perhaps i should stop giving a shit but its difficult when something you were a part of now has leadership that is completely cancerous and other bizarre policies that have affected my former corps. Take care!
I'd also add that I didnt get into two police forces in 2009..... not because I failed the tests, they paused recruitment and sent a monthly letter about being "interested in hearing from persons from ethnic backgrounds".
Other service related jobs have been doing this quietly for ages the RAF just injected it with roids.
Great insight Tim. As someone who's served in both the Armed Forces and police I'm just sick of this woke crap. On the policing front Suella Braverman has told Chief Constables to cut the woke nonesense and concentrate on CRIME.... there's a thing!
Hopefully the RAF can take a leaf out of the RN recruitment book or the Defence Secretary takes these cretinous, weak senior officers to task
And yet, the politicians were the ones who infected the emergency and armed services with WOKE in order to promote females, ethnics and minorities!
This quota and diversity thing is toxic. I can recall being at a training seminar in local government where the facilitator said "We definitely need more women in the organisation". I asked "Why?" Her face clouded over and she informed me that I had totally missed the whole point of the training session.
I'm sure you still won't find many women in the lower paid jobs like digging ditches, laying pipes, spreading bitumen or driving road sweeping vehicles.
Yes, agreed - it's almost like some women want equality but not everything equal, just the bits that aren't dirty or dangerous.
Believe it or not, digging ditches and laying pipes is now incredibly well paid but I get your point.
@@Sons-of-aryas Actually, even cleaners and operators of machinery in local government over here get quite good pay levels, particularly with penalty rates and overtime etc.
@@FastJetPerformance It isn't almost like Tim it is that they actually only want equality where it benefits them and this is how it has always been. We have three girls, young women now, and I would expect them to be paid the same as a male, but only if they were as capable and had got there on merit. We aren't all equal and that's a lesson that the left won't learn
@@FastJetPerformance its called having your cake and eating it m8, but yeah it fits these birds to a T
SOUTH AFRICA TRIED IT !!!! HOW MANY " PREVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED " ARE FLYING THEIR GRIPPENS ??
tHE AIRLINE TRIED IT, AND ALL OF THEIR ABINITIO STUDENTS WERE FLUNKED
Hey just wanted to say that I really enjoy your channel, looking forward to your future Tornado DCS content & anything you bring out really. Appreciate your work!
Tim, I was a police officer for 25yrs. Began at Hendon Police College. 20 weeks of instruction on law with an exam every 2 weeks. Then upon leaving and joining my first area I was on probation for 2yrs. Once a month MORE exams then one final exam after two years. Then came confirmation of employment ( any major cock ups regarding exams you were history) .
Standards then dropped due to the need for more ethnic minorities to join. Exams then became very rare and gradual assessment was introduced etc etc. It was found that many didn’t KNOW law when out on the streets due to that change. I totally agree that standards should never drop and if you want the best, standards should remain high despite what colour you are or sex. As you know this is happening all the time now and is ILLEGAL!
Very informative piece showing the illegality of Whitehall and MOD 👍
Thank you, Nicholas, as you may know I have a police family so I am well aware of this. We attract the right people precisely because of the standards we uphold, if people see scruffy police or officers who don't know the law when challenged and put on youtube then why would they want to join an outfit like that? Totally agree with you here.
Thanks for keeping this current tim, I have 2 daughters and I want them judged on their merit not because they tick a box. If they got into the raf I would want them to say: "hey dad I worked hard and was the best"
Exactly what they used to do in the UK police during the early 1990's. I joined in an intake of 30 people. 28 x white european men and women and 2 x BAME. The white europeans had all waited 2 or more years for a vacancy. The BAME folk had got in in less than 2 months. Even back then it caused aggravation between us.
To understand why CAS has this "No 1 priority", you need to look at the House of Commons Library Report on UK Defence Personnel Statistics that was published on 23 August 2022. Here is the headline from that report in relation to Diversity:
"On 1 April 2022, around 9.6% of personnel (14,110) self-identified as belonging to a minority ethnic group (compared to an estimated 14.3% of the total UK population). The Army had the highest proportion of minority ethnic personnel (14.0%), followed by the RN/RM (4.8%) and RAF (3.5%)." I believe that CAS is mistaken in making this such a priority, but you can be sure that people senior to him are quoting this report to him regularly! Keep up the good work Tim.
Thank you, Martin - I agree totally with you, he's been told to do it.
@@FastJetPerformance The same HoC reports on Gender as follows: "On 1 April 2022 there were 16,680 women in the UK Regular Forces, who accounted for 11.3% of the total trained and untrained strength. The proportion of women in the Future Reserves 2020 is slightly higher at 15.6%. Women are best represented in the RAF, where they form 15.4% of UK Regular personnel and 23.0% of Reserve personnel". The equivalent percentage or the RN/RM & the Army is the same at 10%. In all 3 Services, it has taken 33 years to double the percentage of women serving so the current targets for women are rather ambitious.
Tim, you once helped me through email and even a post on your FJP Facebook page with my initial email to you about failure to secure a role in NATS on my bday whilst working toward becoming a pilot etc. Your words of wisdom and analogy about the car having the flat tyres is one I now give to people I help and I always reference a top fighter pilot telling me this. You motivated me to go on and pass all my commercial training which took me 5 years total but I got there with top marks and first time passes practical and theoretical. I can say from experience that you fighting the good fight for those in hard places and now it seems even trying to join the service with good marks and motivation behind them is more needed and essential than those in high places will ever know. I want to say thanks on behalf of all of us who you have helped in one way or another and clearly continue to do so.
Thank you, AB, what was the car analogy - I forget?
@@FastJetPerformance you told me that people who have never had a flat tyre don’t know how to deal with it. Key is to go get some flat tyres (failures), change them and keep going with the journey and not throw the whole car away.
@@AB-qn9cs Oh yes, I remember now - thank you for reminding me and I'm glad you've done super well.
@@FastJetPerformance I appreciate it, Tim. Young guys like myself back then benefit from someone who has been there and done it like yourself. Reachable positive role models is what this society lacks at times.
My thought: "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. A privileged person always thinks equality is a disadvantage for them. The society is flashing out that mentality. Peace✌
Keep on fighting the good fight!
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Thank you, Alex
Great to see someone putting there money where their mouth is. Respect to you Tim my grandfather who flew in WW2 would roll in his grave at the modern RAF recruitment methods. Keep up the great work at keeping them honest, respect…
Well said....the UK military used to be about merit and it was proudly non-political. Current leadership have replaced merit with diversity/ quotas and are political operators under corrupt permanent and parliamentary government. It spits in the face of those who fought and died to oppose these things. Shameful.
This is a major issue adversely affecting operational excellence; the constant lowering of the recruitment bar in order to meet D&I targets, against 21st century threats to national and global security. A double negative. It is now rife, and in every institution, be it military, civil, educational or political. I have lived and worked in the USA these past 25 years. I have as many years experience in Org Dev, including writing and facilitating D&I (based on values and diversity of thought, not race, colour etc...) Following my recent divorce, also of 25 years, I am returning home to the UK. A few weeks ago, I applied for an Org Dev position at my local council in the borough I was born. My credentials were perfect, and being a home town lad, my candidacy was ideal. Last week, I received an email from the recruitment team, saying I have not been selected for interview. I was one step ahead, having already, researched, the organisation chart of the council, and the HR team, this position reports to. 19 people make up the team, 17 of them women. My disqualification, demonstrates how this once insidious behavior has moved far beyond and is now ubiquitous, and its damaging consequences adversely discriminatory and downright dangerous. I'm so thankful for people like Tim, who are standing up for not just what's ethically right, but what's legally right! Thank you Tim for your advocacy on this issue. I would be more than happy to rewrite the D&I curriculum for the RAF. One based on diversity of thought, and the extraction of the latent potential of intelligent minds, with no reference to the colour of the skin that encases them.
That is excellently put as always Chris - the coountry needs people like you to explain exactly what diversity is supposed to be!
I'm ex army (worked on Apaches yeah), I don't understand all this ridiculous BAME/Woke crap now, when will they be happy, what when EVERYONE is a Bame/Genderless vegan thats highly emotionally unstable?
In fact this goes for everything nowadays.
Getting ridiculous.
Love the channel Tim
Thanks James, much appreciated 👍
Saw these shenanigans in the Fire and Rescue Service too. Women and ethnics chosen over more capable white males who were clearly better. I interviewed an ex para who was in the top 5 in every test. He was great in the interview and I put him forward for selection. Never saw him again but a lot of women went through who did not perform as well. Just after a report had been issued to increase the numbers of women and ethnics in the job.
Yuri Bezmenov warned you 40 years ago. check out his videos
Unfortunately a sign of the times Tim. It’s happening all over the place in the UK and I would say the wider world in general. Very sad that the world has gotten to this place. Merit should be the only metric when it comes to selecting the right candidates. Another great video
Here’s a radical idea, that CAS’s number one priority should be simply ensuring that all of the Royal Air Force’s personnel and recruitment is not about diversity but is simply ensuring that the sharp end of the service is able to perform its role - as it used to! This diversity rubbish needs to be binned ASAP along with the stupid accounting rules from the civil service that see stores of munitions as wasted capital.
Absolutely shocking, bending or more appropriately breaking the rules of selection to appease the current drive for ‘diversity’ within the service at the cost of destroying operational effectiveness and capability!
CLASS ACTION is THE ONLY way forward.
I used to fly at RAF Cosford. Known for it's great engineering background/hub including RADAR, Photography/Aerial Cartography.
It's tragic that an establishment such as the RAF (that I held in such high regard) has resorted to 'cherry-picking-box-ticking' to meet so-called 'diversity targets' instead of employing based purely on talent, merit and aptitude.
RAF. Utter disgrace. Sort yourselves out.
I”m outraged by this blatant disregard for the employment law amongst other legislation.
I’m approaching retirement age after a career in military aviation and have seen many good and not so good ideas ‘run up the flagpole’, whosoever is saluting this puppy needs to be medically discharged on mental health grounds.
There are many (good sometimes) arguments for more non-white males in certain roles, but In certain areas it’s lunacy… Ask Juergen Klopp to get with the programme and have 20% of his 1st team squad to be replaced by LGBT / Women… Tell the OC of 40 Commando the same… Tell the CAS that (wait, scrap that).
I understand there is a huge vote winner in ‘bigging up’ the non-white male agenda, but let’s not destroy things in trying to satisfy the over zealous dogooders.
Sadly, I feel my chances of a MOBO this year are diminishing yet again.
Asking a question I don't know the answer to, but has this been challenged in court? This is damaging to people applying being sifted out on immutable characteristics.
Great Video Tim and thanks for blowing the lid on these bloody woke scrunts that have grabbed the helm.
Gripes go up, even if... especially if the Peter Principle is playing out. Leaders surrounded by yes men (slash women), historically not awesome. Blind selection is the only way. Nailed it Tim.
We have the same in South Africa for years we are being discriminated against by the black government
Tim, you need to remember, that only ‘yes’ men and women get promoted in the RAF.
Only WEF supporters get promoted everywhere
Wow!! very interesting, I had no idea that sort of crap was going down in the RAF selection process. What sort of RAF are we going to have in just a few years from now? Scary stuff one thinks.
I've been in application process for little over a year and can only hope the reason for my length isn't because I'm a white man. I've asked and challenged my recruiter about it and was reassured - but who really knows.
By the sounds of it, might be better off applying to the Navy.
Go for the RN or Army; you apps can run concurrently.
Thanks for the help and advice with regards to this. I'll see what can be done and might draft up that letter and hold it in reserve until it may be required. Be well.
@@windsurfer_LA The RN are aware of the RAF doing this and are loving the fact that it allows the RN to get some excellent talent joining them instead.
@@windsurfer_LA meritocratic RN? not anymore WEF puppets have taken all the top RN jobs.
It's Common Purpose Tim and the long walk through the institutions, with the military being the last to fall!
Agreed.
As a retired RAFVR(T) Flt Lt with 33 years service mainly as a squadron commander of two ATC squadrons (19 & 6 years) many cadets went on to serve in the UK Armed Forces. Many of the cadets used their service to either confirm their wish to join the services or it illustrated that this was not the life for them, both useful aspects of the Corps. If a cadet went to the CIO (careers information office) and applied to join whichever service they wished to join, we would get a questionnaire from the appropriate service asking for mainly, a character reference... As the cadets commanding officer and having knowledge of the cadets service, ability, and commitment as well as their character... In the later years of my service the RAF stopped asking the ATC cadets CO's anything about their service in the Corps, from around 2006! Might have been our local CIO but I suspect it was a nationwide thing! Surprisingly my squadron had more cadets joining the Royal Navy as pilots than the RAF, I suspect the issue was most of the candidates were 6 footers or taller and as a recruiter once told me 'there is more headroom in a Hercules and a helicopter than a fast jet BUT we don't recruit transport pilots'!!!!
Congratulations Tim on making the whole country aware of this scandal. That is what service to your country looks like. You sad an example for everyone today and hopefully for a long time to come.
Thank you, Alexander - very kind of you to say so.
@@FastJetPerformance It's just the truth. Nevertheless it is probably a sign of the times in which we live today. That it is you who acknowledge this scandal and not some aktiv serving member. Without comen sense there is no chance of freedom. Freedom is the thing I think all of us who served in the armed forces of our respective countries want to protect. Thanks again and keep up your great work.
If you look at cardio-thoracic surgeons working in the NHS, you'll find that BAME practitioners at all levels from top of the profession to the bottom are _over_-represented as to national demographics, but that women - despite being over-represented in some medical specialities, including surgical specialties, are only about 5% of them. But it's impossible to claim that somebody who makes a great heart surgeon wouldn't have potentially made a great engineering officer in another life, unless they are fine with blood but faint at the sight of hydraulic fluid... similarly, the fact that only 5% of heart surgeons are women doesn't mean that the women who went on to be stars in other medical or surgical fields wouldn't have been great cardio-thoracic surgeons had they chosen to enter that specialty & not shunned the specialty to be brain surgeons or whatever. I haven't checked, but I think the medical profession _IS_ near enough 50-50, whereas neither the piloting profession nor the profession of arms are, but that's a whole different can of worms. Nor does the fact that BAME candidates are over-represented in UK medicine imply that 'white British' people can't cut it. You could argue that in a time of shortage of NHS staff now, because of the loss of many Europeans, if any ethnic or gender group in British society isn't broadly represented in the NHS at every level & [less clearcut] in every specialty IN the NHS, it is leaving talent it needs on the table.
I note that you distinguished between the desirability of the police force looking like the society it polices & comes from, & of the armed forces ditto. I'm not sure that in peacetime armed forces, particularly when ever more of them are reservists who are expected to volunteer to give up evenings & weekends to train to be ready to take part in operations where getting killed is a realistic prospect as part of a sense of civic duty, that you have that correct. And in any case, the people whose taxes pay for all the shiny toys that seem pointless to so many in an austere peacetime need to feel ownership of & a stake in the armed forces, & the clear majority of them are BAME &/or female..
I'm sure if you went into Nandos with a bunch of vouchers to find a bunch of future white heart surgeons it would end badly in all the ways you are describing with BAME pilots, but if you decided it mattered that almost all the women graduating as junior doctors chose to be something other than a heart surgeon, it seems like it would be possible to do obvious interventions to recruit more of the talent pool of about to be newly minted doctors to do heart surgery rather than gynaecology or brain surgery, identify any specific barriers to entry & knock them down, etc etc. But it would be a completely different intervention than the one you would need to get more white people interested in being surgeons rather than... say... RAF pilots.
If the RAF cannot find quality fighter pilot candidates among ethnic minorities, it's not because they don't exist. If they are all queuing up to become heart surgeons instead, that's one potential issue, & if the system is somehow filtering them out incorrectly that's another different issue. Either way, you seem to be saying that as long as this week we have enough enthusiastic high test score white guys to fill the remaining cockpits we still have this week, who cares about diversity? I served in the TA back in the 1980's in a part of the UK with a disproportionately large BAME population. Everybody in my TA infantry unit was white, most of them were casually racist, & when a sikh guy joined another TA company elsewhere in the region under the same Battalion HQ, I felt like a fly on the wall at a National Front rally for the 6 months he lasted. Obviously that was a _very_ long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, & at the time to my eternal shame I just kept my mouth shut & opinions to myself because I enjoyed all the fun pointy ended bangy stuff, but obviously, in hindsight, f*ck that. Me now would have fired the whole Battalion into the sun & started again if _I_ had been in charge. But I wouldn't have to bother because the government did the first part of that at the end of the cold war. Call me too woke if you like, but diversity _does_ matter, & when you are explaining to UKCivpop in peacetime why the RAF needs taxpayers to fund _this_ expensive capability or _that_ extra squadron, it seems like it would help.
Slightly off topic, but part of the reason that the NHS is filling up with foreign nurses is that it costs 27 grand out of your own pocket to train as a nurse, and your starting salary is less than you'd get working at Costa Coffee (and they don't need you to do 27 grand's worth of training!)
I think we're getting a little confused to as to what diversity is actually suposed to be. Diversity is about the sharing of a common value and standard - it has nothing to do with race or sex but it's been hijacked so that people think that it is. If the RAF was to set out it's stall and say 'this is what we believe in' then it would attract like-minded individuals who also share these values and standards. Forcing diversity of races and sexes in a meritocratic hierachal instituion I find cavalier and bordering on the dangerous when people are recruited soley because of their skin colour or sex.
People are getting grief at work for even talking about this. I had a very ‘interesting’ one way chat with the warrant and JO for the mere suggestion that there was anything wrong with what RAF recruitment attempted to do.
You need to get the trainers in your D&I sessions to say whether they agree with this or not - they need to be clear that this is wrong, if not, they are indoctrinating you. Keep pushing!
Ex British Military Fast Jet Pilots recruited by China and are actively training their pilots!!!! Love to hear your thoughts on this Tim.
Simple. Unless they cease, it should be classed as a form of treason.
@@packersfanforlife7903 - Are you sure its illegal based on UK law? Given the shear number (dozens?) that appear to be doing this, I think it unlikely that it is illegal. And based on Tim's tracking of the state of the RAF racial discrimination issues, one has to ask: Why are formerly patriotic red blooded British Military Pilots going to China? Obviously the money is good, but I suspect that this group has lost faith in the British system and no longer feels a strong sense of loyalty to the country. It has to be more than just the money, and a failure to look inward (by the UK Gov't/Military) will only serve to reinforce the belief that the system is corrupt. But I'm not holding my breath for any UK Gov't Official to take some ownership in the situation. It's just to easy to call them traitors.
I can't go to war today I'm having my period and I've broken a finger nail.
When are we going to stand up to this WOKE nonsense.
Exfuckingzactly
History shows when the people are starving and have nothing left to lose
But this time an unpresidented amount of new digital tech will aid the Tyrants to keep power
Not only do we need the right PERSON for the job academically, we also need people with grit. The ebbing away of grit and discipline is becoming more noticeable almost daily. We need the right people who we can train and train hard.
Agreed, some young RAF lads witnessed a pub fight and recieved stress and trauma counselling ffs.
@@neilcunningham8938 They need a dose of Fight Club, the first rule of Fight Club is dont talk about Fight club
"Its no longer about left vs Right is now about Up vs Down": UK Column news
What a bunch of clowns, bloody embarrassing! Nice one Tim.
I think they should be educating schools on career development for young kids who want to be in the RAF. When I was at school/college, there were no options available for anyone, and was one of those kids who always wondered what I needed to do to serve in the RAF. It was quite a daunting task to think about as a young black male so I kinda just forgot about it.
I think if they do this, they might get genuine interest from minorities at a younger age who can get the position both on merit, and legally!!!
Great Video Tim, Big up!!!
And this is the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Madness
All the white men whose applications to join were obstructed during this period till they aged out I think should strongly consider coming together and launching a class action lawsuit against the RAF for discrimination.
Yes, I would recommend the same.
Make it against the CAS personally.
Fiddling whilst Rome burns
It's all based on color and gender. Premium combo is black and woman. Double points for gay.
Tim
The first line of your response is exactly what I was talking about. The MoD and armed forces leaders are concentrating their efforts, not just on DEI but on "fighting" global warming (catch all weasel expression is 'climate change').
Vegetarian options in the Mess, an electric tank and powering fighter jets with alcohol, algae and household waste!
To outdo the army, Sir Mike Wigston wants the RAF to achieve net zero CO2 by 2040.
Just found your channel. There is so much truth in what you are saying. I see it, I hear about it. Who gets the job, should be the best able to do the job regardless of skin colour, race, gender.
I would have thought you would have somthing to say about the latest news?. We are now training the Chinese on fast jet tactics etc ....................
There is nothing wrong with a recruitment drive from people from say "none indigenous backgrounds", I'm sure they can be as fierce and dedicated as anyone else (assuming they have the feeling of belonging and the need to defend their heritage, but that's a whole different discussion). but the idea that some volunteers who put themselves forward should be denied accept to favour some less capable applicants, because of their background is not just laughable, but in the sense of national defence it should be "Criminal"!
That's exactly Tim's point!
I am a white male and 15 years old and want to join at 18 years old and currently I am in the RAFAC. Does this then mean that i will be able to join or not. After speaking to staff and my OC at squadron, they said that recruitment is still going of ability and nothing else but after reading other sources this seems to be false. Is this correct?
By the time you get there, this will have all ended - you'll be fine.
10-15 years from now, a look back at the Mishap Rate trends will tell the story.
This really makes me angry. I managed to get through to OASC as a pilot but was rejected. I wonder if the RAF prioritised BAME and Woman over me... who knows!
It's pretty simple, really.
If they did away with a process that was purely merit-based (blind), than merit isn't the primary motivation. Ergo, people at the top are more than happy to have standards go to hell for ideological reasons.
Everything else they claim is just weasel-word salad to justify the unjustifiable.
I'm finding it very hard not to just give up. Every day it just feels like I've been kicked in the gut. 😔
If i had the money i'd emigrate to Kentucky or Tennessee, or if you are looking for safety to the Caribbean like John Cleese has
This is a failure of our politicians. The senior managers who run our armed forces, the police & NHS are all answerable to politicians. If senior managers are guilty of serious misconduct by failing to stop violations of the law (E.g. Unlawful discrimination) and failing to respect their organization's mandate (E.g. Remaining politically neutral) then politicians have the power to challenge them and, if necessary, remove them from their position.
It’s ridiculous, I’d say it’s the same with the medical standards. I felt I was still discriminated by just because of my medical history. I had made it into the university air squadron, shown I can do everything that the RAF want through my short period at the air squadron and my five years at the cadets. Obviously it’s toned down slightly but shooting, flying etc was easy to me…. I went through interviews, they wanted me. But their strict medical standards didn’t, shattered me if I’m honest, they didn’t look at me or give me a chance it was just a phone call and ‘you failed’. It is not fair.
I was involved for many years in putting wet stuff on hot stuff, it seems to me that as they were desperate to undertake the same process. I think it may be passed down from a place in London somewhere. Great video once again.
Tim, keep on banging the drum mate! You are doing us ALL a service. God Save the KING.
God save this WEF King? you are a fool
A few years ago I was fairly successful in my job and started to become I would say somewhat over confident . I was able to breeze my way through almost any interview. I once became so good at it I ended up getting myself into a senior management position I was absolutely ill eqipped for and I can tell you there are few things worse in your profession than realising you are unable to live up to the expectations placed on you and then realising everybody else realised it a long time before you did.
Very good point.
Tim, may I have a copy of this email please?
Ive had the talk with my lad, he was going to join the RAF, following in my footsteps, but we heard of this 'positive discrimination' and diversity thing. Shame really, he still is an Air Cadet, now looking to do do his PPL and concentrate on that first, then see what happens going forward, but he has been put off the RAF
If he joins the US forces he can get US citizenship
@@phillipsmiley5930 don't you have to be a US citizen to join the US Forces?
It may be the best decision he could make.
@@packersfanforlife7903 I believe there's still some sort of GI bill that allows foreigners to become US citizens if they join US forces
I would have joined the RAF to scrub the floors. The problem is, I'm female, and my parents came to the UK in order to give me a better life, and I am very visibly not from around here. I do not want to be a diversity hire. I do not want to spend my whole life wondering if I'm really any good at what I'm doing. I had a Cranwell date and I withdrew. Because of this. They want people with a spine and a moral core? Well, I like to think I have those things and I don't want this.
I would recommend the RN, I joined the RN first and it was very inclusive of all - you sound like a woman of sound moral character, I expect you will go on to do very well in life, thank you for writing.
@@FastJetPerformance Sorry Tim, too late, look for me in the front of an Emirates A380 in a year or three. On the other hand if I survive living in Dubai as a single south asian female maybe I will actually deserve some sort of prize!
@@itisthesusie1754 My kid bro is on the 777 with Emirates, if you want me to hook you guys up for knowledge and support, email me, no worries.
Can you please react to the ex RAF pilots that are in China training them to fight western aircraft?
Interesting how through your contacts how the plot thickens with regards to how the RAF are currently recruiting ie not the best candidate but the one that ticks certain boxes. The RAF have for years talked about integrity but clearly and in the case of CAS, don't then apply it.
Yes, it is blatant to see for all that CAS is going silent on this, the journos must be surrounding him like sharks at the moment as they hate the cold shoulder treatment. I'm calling out the Squadron Commanders and Air Officers in the next video, you don't get to hold the King's Commission and not speak out about injustices when you have the power to do so. The Senior Leadership Team should all go for this appalling and illegal behaviour.
We are One. The Law of One. Gratitude. Namaste
Urgh… this makes me sick. Apart from anything else… how much time, effort and money is being wasted pursuing this❓Assess, pick the best and get on with expending your energies on improving the defence of our country. I recently retired after spending my whole working life in the RAF (40years) and we never had a discrimination issue, in fact I’ve trained, worked and flown with all the groups being mentioned here and it was literally no big deal…. 🤬
With all this coming to light, alongside the Sky news articles, why is the RAF not being held to higher account or legal action? What even is the repercussion for being found guilty of positive discrimination, what about all the lads who have now aged out and now missed the only opportunity they will ever get, is their any legal justice for them/compensation?! Just seems absolutely backwards and I'm puzzled how there doesn't seem to be more sever consequences for this pass bad press.
As an ex RAF member I'm disgusted with what is happening to a once proud service .At a time when we need our Air Force at its best what with Putin and China . Wigston is playing politics and thinking of only his career and not the future and strength of the RAF . Wigston needs to go !!!
Think further up the subvertion chain, who put wigston where he is
@@phillipsmiley5930 That one you would have to tell me as I wouldn't know .
Qualification, aptitude, skill and ability for any job, no creed,race,colour or disability should make any difference. What appears to be knee jerk over sensitivity must stop but all corridors must be open for all the above listed 🕊 Lest we forget🕊🇬🇧
Nice video Tim, have you thought about taking this to the press or TV in a greater way ?
For FJ Aircrew, I worry about these policies. If they're going to recruit from lower aptitudes, at least be honest & tell it as it is; have a defined scheme that recruits on shared values & identified potential rather than enact this secretive shady positive-descrimination bs. Slightly different, but I'm old enough to have worked alongside guys & gals who joined the RAF under the YTS as Flight Line Mechanics (Flems) & what a huge talent pool the Air Force got, with many progressing, on merit, to fitters courses & beyond. Done properly, with transparency, throwing a wider recruiting-net can & does work.
Perhaps we should drop fast jets and make them slow jets!
My apologies, of course it's for all aircrew, slow or fast, not just FJ!!
Your life in their hands & all that, echoing the heart-surgeon analogy! I've trusted my life to multi-engine RAF crews hundreds of times, but only once to a FJ pilot at Wattisham. On that occasion, in 1990, I was very happy to know I was being piloted by the best of the best. (It also helped that I'd personally B/F'd the phantom I flew in 😉). Good memories.
Since when does illegality bother govt, military, medical science, big business etc?
You mean everything Sir Klaus owns or controls?
All people want is a fair shot (literally an equal opportunity, if they have the aptitude), not a free pass. I would be horrified, if I found out I'd been selected over someone else, to hit some ridiculous quota.
Only when you look at all that's going on recently from the perspective that it is being done on purpose, only then does this destruction of all that used to be normal make sense.
As a tax payer all I want are the best pilots, soldiers, sailors, engineers and any other disciplines required to run these services. The best is all that matters and Recruitment should have that nailed to their door as a reminder. If you only look up to someone because they look like you then you are problem. When war breaks out and we don’t have the best then we will all suffer as a consequence. History showed we were the best and that’s why we are free now but this can never be taken for granted.
What are your thoughts on us joining the Permanent Structured Cooperation - PESCO and effectively being under EU C&C. Not heard anything about this in the media, yet it seems like a monumental decision taken without any parliamentary debate. What are the ramifications for our role/funding in NATO and UK defence industry? I'd be very interested in your no nonsense thoughts on this.
Agreed, I saw that was smuggled through very quietly wasn't it!
Nicely presented………..the question is…………how long will it take to change …!
When the people in charge stop pandering to the 0.01% and virtue signalling thinking that’s what the country wants
But why are they doing this? I don't get it.
Me too, it must be some higher than Government thing.
@@FastJetPerformance You know, Yuri Bezmenovs warned us 40 years ago
i know youve seen his videos, so did Sir Klaus
@@phillipsmiley5930 Subversion.
@@FastJetPerformance Exactly, 40 years ago people laughted at Yuri Bezmenov saying the wests institutions are too strong to be subverted. they aint no more
And so the RAF admit mistakes were made over recruitment - You can't fight discrimination with discrimination. Maybe the police force could also take a look at this !
Hi, I am a young white man who kept thinking about joining the RAF the past 2 years. Would appreciate any advice on the current state of the RAF, like is it not worth it now because of my gender and ethnicity? I'm very concerned by this news story
Just realized Themtube unsubbed me from FJP 😡 after Dangerfield showed clips from this newest video. 👌🏻 Thanks Mr. Davies Thx 🙏🏻
The crabs have lost the plot
this has been happening in the police since the 90s
True. The Police are a bit different though in that they are there to represent society. The military are not there to represent anything other than the defense of the country.
@@SimDeck no they are still vest for the job, if 2 black officers turned up to take a statement and I demanded representation on race grounds whay do you think would happen?
@@scrubsrc4084 If you demanded anything on race grounds you would be laughed at and rightly so.
@@SimDeck I wish that were true, there were black in black crime units and minority victims can request an officer that looks like them. Because its allowed when it goes in one direction
@@SimDeck I don't think the Police are there to represent society, but to catch those who break the law and to deter other from doing so.
Because most Police forces are formed on a regional bases, they'd recruit locally, so the Bobby on the beat would often be representative of the local community and in days of the Bobby on the beat a local person with local knowledge was useful.
By any definition, this is racism.
Just seen you on Sky News, well done Tim! 👏 👏👏👏👏 finally got them to admit it. Shame CAS didn't take responsibility in his interview, failing the Service Test on integrity I'd say.
Yes, absolutely.
Sky News UK was bought 4 years ago by Comcast to push the WEF narrative.
Thats why its so different than Sky News Aus, which is still owned by Murdoch
I personally don't understand why the service would degrade itself in such a way. Employing people based on merit/performance and not their racial background is essential to being an effective force. I completely understand that there should be no discrimination against racial minorities etc, but if they're not at the standard of their fellow applicants, they should not be pushed ahead of them. Does this strategy not devalue the credibility of those racial minorities that have recently joined? Surely they must be demotivated by the fact that they've been employed based on the colour of their skin and not their ability to perform their role? I honestly do not understand why there is a specific quota for diversity - it is inherently damaging no matter which way you look at it.
Why are the RAF not focusing on women and minorities at a younger age? Getting into communities with cadets and going into schools etc and encouraging these cohorts to consider it as a career path? Surely that's a better way to address diversity in the long term as you'll end up with people who actually want to be in the RAF and will have the right mindset and skills for it?
Why would they focus on JUST women and minorities? Focus on selecting the BEST people though a common, fair and LEGAL recruitment process. It's that simple
@@Aerofoil-Cinematics Yeah - to be fair I could've worded that better. They should focus on everyone, but if they want a more diverse workforce then it has to start earlier in my opinion. But they should be equally targeting everyone.
40 years ago, they did just that. RN. RM, Army and RAF careers people would rock up from their various offices and spend time with the 12-14 year old's discussing potential career paths and the best education routes for them to achieve this. I spent a fair chunk of the 80's travelling the UK going to fetes and fairs where there was always a recruiting presence. This just doesn't appear to happen anymore, and the services are worse off for it.
@@namboozleUK My daughter was a HR director for a very large construction company that had contractswith HS2 London Tideway Crossrail etc.they had have on the books ex amount of appretices and yes ex amount of females,that was a part of the contract,they used to try and arrange visits to schools and colleges to show that"construction" had a huge variety of highly skilled and highly paid trades but they often met with a very negative attitude in the schools but not quite as much in tech colleges,there was a"ladies " school in west London who gave her yery short shrift "we educate our girls to a high standard,not be bricklayers"! this was only 3yrs ago!
Where does it all start start and finish. thank god i am an OAP now!
Build Back Better, (for the elite) how can you do that without pulling everything down first
They want women in teeth arms not because they bring any benefit but because if they serve in a combat unit and stay the course then one day they might become CDS or head of a service. They have to have the numbers to hide that that person's career path may have been massaged.
The idea of red-blooded warrior human resources bods is truly terrifying.
Or in that time they could raise a couple of boys to do a better job of it.
@@johngray3449 All the competent leaders in the services leave before they reach flag rank.
Not so much a truth bomb in the attack shack more like a Vulcan's worth of truth nukes! Boooooom! Go get 'em, Tim! Group Captain recruitment needs promoting and other senior officers take her lead.
Thank you Tim. This madness has to stop. We always must insist on the best candidates for the roles. And I say this as a non-white person. A rather gorgeous olive skin complexion - even if I say so myself ;-)