During my MyoFascial class for my CEUs as a MT, we learned you can directly treat scoliosis through trigger point on top of the curve, and slow stripping under the curve. The degrees will slowly start to correct, through multiple sessions. Without even saying that the client is medically cleared to get treatments, of course. Any therapist with good technique, well rounded knowledge, and intuition will serve their purpose. Aside from this example, I always preach that it’s a combo deal. Ideally you want to get at your health from all angles. Great video. Cheers from FL 🙏🏼💆🏻♂️
Massage therapists do joint mobilizations and remedial exercises as well, at least in Ontario we do. We also learned in depth assessment techniques. Sounds very similar to me!
Great video! Thank you for explaining the difference between PT & MT. I totally agree with you on what you said about MT's. I am a massage therapist for 4 yrs based in UK, where I got my MT education, I mainly focus on delivering Deep Tissue massage as it is one of the most popular treatment here. I am looking into studying physiotherapy at uni to get the knowledge and expertise in how to better treat musculoskeletal and other related conditions. I think I am a great MT and combined with PT skills I could make a lot of people feel better and a lot of them can have that final result of the treatment that you're talking, which they're definitely lacking with massage only.
Thank you for your comments, Edmundas! I agree: having both skill sets (MT and PT) would be an extremely valuable tool set for you to help your clients. I hope it works out for you! Best of luck :-)
In the school where I've studied in UK to be a sport massage therapist, we do learn postural assessment and how to treat these muscles imbalance related to the issue, like APT, Forward shoulders, etc.
As a RMT - it's a mind blowing disinformation you present in this video. RMTs (at least in Ontario) are trained to perform an assessment and a treatment plan. Are trained to do joint mobilization. Many are trained to use the ultrasound and AFC in their treatments, dry needling, etc. We are. Required to provide the clients with a self-care plan..... it's just surprising to hear what you say....
I love that word "disinformation". In the US and Canada, we use that word to discredit people when we disagree with them, which is essentially what you're doing. For LMPs, things are different in the states than in Canada. It sounds like Canada has a better model.
Good question, Michelle! As far as I know, massage therapy school is somewhere around 9-12 months total (I don't believe there are any required classes before starting school). For physical therapy school, you have to have a 4-year undergraduate degree, and then the PT program is another 3 years. Long time!
I am a massage therapist and I don’t blame you for your mindset And most of what you say is true about how people view massage therapist but there are quite a few that do you want to practice on the clinical side like me and we don’t use exercise because we’re not allowed to unless we have some kind of certificateAlso you didn’t offend me
Thank you for your comments, Doug! I truly value what massage therapists can do for their clients, and I think massage therapists and physical therapists can work really well together. My best to you, sir :-)
@@Dougytea I'm not really sure... open-mindedness would be a good start. We also need to get away from the "scarcity mindset" in terms of the people we can help and serve. There are so many people out there who benefit from both MT and PT, and we should be working together to help these people. I also believe that the more our 2 professions start to study marketing and sales, the better we'll be able to understand our clients and communicate with them, which will allow us to work with them. What do you think about that, Doug?
I definitely agree with the open mindedness and sales, I always thought it was because MT needed to take turn in it’s education focusing more on clinical skills. Believe it or not not every massage school is the same some focus more on eastern modalities which are not useful for the most part ( cupping, gua sha/scraping not included for they work) and others don’t focus enough on clinical skills each one is so different that only about 30% of the education is mainstream
@@Dougytea that makes sense. Overall, the more you become a skilled practitioner, the more you need to be able to convey your value to your potential clients. If you can do that, you get to help them! It's a win-win :-)
Hello Luke. Thanks for the vid. I'm looking to learn more about PT and MT careers and if either are a good match for me. Thanks for this vid! If you ever make content talking about starting your PT journey and what you learned I would absolutely watch it. Thanks again!
Thank you for your comment, Kiara! Being a PT is a rewarding career in general, and I know a lot of MTs who really enjoy their work as well. Make sure you find some time to shadow both as you figure out the best course for yourself :-) I'll keep that in mind about making a video about choosing the profession. Thanks again for watching, and best of luck to you!
Hello! I am interested in massage therapy but think the goal orientation of PT is valuable. Are there ways to incorporate PT practices in LMT as an individual practitioner? Any book recommendations? Thank you!
Hi, Giuliana! Thank you for your comment! As far as incorporating PT principles into Massage Therapy, I think the biggest thing I'd try to do is to help people get to the root cause of their problems instead of only providing temporary pain relief. Ultimately, I think this approach will help you be a better massage therapy for your clients, and it will also keep you open-minded to working with other practitioners, such as PTs, chiropractors, acupuncturists, naturopaths, etc. Does that help?
@@GordonPhysicalTherapy Hi Luke, yes it does help! I've a newfound interest in massage therapy after seeing how effective it is with my father who is terminally ill and bedridden at home. At such a point I'm not sure how relevant the root cause assessment is as the health has declined to such a crippling state...have you worked with or know PTs who have worked with hospice patients and have successfully addressed root causes to bring about a deeper level of healing in the last weeks/years of life? Thanks so much!
@@grassrootedgal glad it helped! Working in a hospice care setting is an interesting stage of someone's life. As a PT, we're not too involved at this point, other than assisting the nurses/physicians to keep the clients comfortable. At this point, the "root cause" approach isn't quite as applicable as it would be to someone looking to increase their activity level. Being able to comfort someone at this stage of their life with massage therapy seems like an amazing use of your energy and talents. I hope you enjoy it :-)
You must’ve worked with some lousy massage therapists. My clients get fixed and learn how to fix themselves. I’ll be moving to Wa in a couple weeks so y’all gonna learn how it’s done.
During my MyoFascial class for my CEUs as a MT, we learned you can directly treat scoliosis through trigger point on top of the curve, and slow stripping under the curve. The degrees will slowly start to correct, through multiple sessions. Without even saying that the client is medically cleared to get treatments, of course. Any therapist with good technique, well rounded knowledge, and intuition will serve their purpose. Aside from this example, I always preach that it’s a combo deal. Ideally you want to get at your health from all angles. Great video. Cheers from FL 🙏🏼💆🏻♂️
Thank you for your comments! Keep up the great work! Cheers from Idaho ;-)
Massage therapists do joint mobilizations and remedial exercises as well, at least in Ontario we do. We also learned in depth assessment techniques. Sounds very similar to me!
Thanks for sharing!!
same in Florida USA
Great video! Thank you for explaining the difference between PT & MT. I totally agree with you on what you said about MT's. I am a massage therapist for 4 yrs based in UK, where I got my MT education, I mainly focus on delivering Deep Tissue massage as it is one of the most popular treatment here.
I am looking into studying physiotherapy at uni to get the knowledge and expertise in how to better treat musculoskeletal and other related conditions. I think I am a great MT and combined with PT skills I could make a lot of people feel better and a lot of them can have that final result of the treatment that you're talking, which they're definitely lacking with massage only.
Thank you for your comments, Edmundas! I agree: having both skill sets (MT and PT) would be an extremely valuable tool set for you to help your clients. I hope it works out for you! Best of luck :-)
In the school where I've studied in UK to be a sport massage therapist, we do learn postural assessment and how to treat these muscles imbalance related to the issue, like APT, Forward shoulders, etc.
Good deal! I know many massage therapists who have good training when it comes to things like balance and posture. Keep up the good work, Jose :-)
As a RMT - it's a mind blowing disinformation you present in this video.
RMTs (at least in Ontario) are trained to perform an assessment and a treatment plan. Are trained to do joint mobilization. Many are trained to use the ultrasound and AFC in their treatments, dry needling, etc. We are. Required to provide the clients with a self-care plan..... it's just surprising to hear what you say....
I love that word "disinformation". In the US and Canada, we use that word to discredit people when we disagree with them, which is essentially what you're doing. For LMPs, things are different in the states than in Canada. It sounds like Canada has a better model.
Correct.but some MTs R trained for assessment, although not quite rigorously as PTs.
True. Thanks for your comment!
What’s the difference in the schooling needed to become a massage therapist vs physical therapist?
Good question, Michelle! As far as I know, massage therapy school is somewhere around 9-12 months total (I don't believe there are any required classes before starting school). For physical therapy school, you have to have a 4-year undergraduate degree, and then the PT program is another 3 years. Long time!
I am a massage therapist and I don’t blame you for your mindset And most of what you say is true about how people view massage therapist but there are quite a few that do you want to practice on the clinical side like me and we don’t use exercise because we’re not allowed to unless we have some kind of certificateAlso you didn’t offend me
Thank you for your comments, Doug! I truly value what massage therapists can do for their clients, and I think massage therapists and physical therapists can work really well together. My best to you, sir :-)
@@GordonPhysicalTherapy yeah i do too... what do you think it will take for it be common to see an MT working with PT ?
@@Dougytea I'm not really sure... open-mindedness would be a good start. We also need to get away from the "scarcity mindset" in terms of the people we can help and serve. There are so many people out there who benefit from both MT and PT, and we should be working together to help these people. I also believe that the more our 2 professions start to study marketing and sales, the better we'll be able to understand our clients and communicate with them, which will allow us to work with them. What do you think about that, Doug?
I definitely agree with the open mindedness and sales, I always thought it was because MT needed to take turn in it’s education focusing more on clinical skills. Believe it or not not every massage school is the same some focus more on eastern modalities which are not useful for the most part ( cupping, gua sha/scraping not included for they work) and others don’t focus enough on clinical skills each one is so different that only about 30% of the education is mainstream
@@Dougytea that makes sense. Overall, the more you become a skilled practitioner, the more you need to be able to convey your value to your potential clients. If you can do that, you get to help them! It's a win-win :-)
Hello Luke. Thanks for the vid. I'm looking to learn more about PT and MT careers and if either are a good match for me. Thanks for this vid! If you ever make content talking about starting your PT journey and what you learned I would absolutely watch it. Thanks again!
Thank you for your comment, Kiara! Being a PT is a rewarding career in general, and I know a lot of MTs who really enjoy their work as well. Make sure you find some time to shadow both as you figure out the best course for yourself :-)
I'll keep that in mind about making a video about choosing the profession. Thanks again for watching, and best of luck to you!
Hello! I am interested in massage therapy but think the goal orientation of PT is valuable. Are there ways to incorporate PT practices in LMT as an individual practitioner? Any book recommendations? Thank you!
Hi, Giuliana! Thank you for your comment! As far as incorporating PT principles into Massage Therapy, I think the biggest thing I'd try to do is to help people get to the root cause of their problems instead of only providing temporary pain relief. Ultimately, I think this approach will help you be a better massage therapy for your clients, and it will also keep you open-minded to working with other practitioners, such as PTs, chiropractors, acupuncturists, naturopaths, etc. Does that help?
@@GordonPhysicalTherapy Hi Luke, yes it does help! I've a newfound interest in massage therapy after seeing how effective it is with my father who is terminally ill and bedridden at home. At such a point I'm not sure how relevant the root cause assessment is as the health has declined to such a crippling state...have you worked with or know PTs who have worked with hospice patients and have successfully addressed root causes to bring about a deeper level of healing in the last weeks/years of life? Thanks so much!
@@grassrootedgal glad it helped! Working in a hospice care setting is an interesting stage of someone's life. As a PT, we're not too involved at this point, other than assisting the nurses/physicians to keep the clients comfortable. At this point, the "root cause" approach isn't quite as applicable as it would be to someone looking to increase their activity level. Being able to comfort someone at this stage of their life with massage therapy seems like an amazing use of your energy and talents. I hope you enjoy it :-)
@@GordonPhysicalTherapy Awesome. Thanks for the insight and words of encouragement!
@@grassrootedgal of course! Happy to help any time :-)
You must’ve worked with some lousy massage therapists. My clients get fixed and learn how to fix themselves. I’ll be moving to Wa in a couple weeks so y’all gonna learn how it’s done.
Sounds good! Where did you end up in WA?
@@GordonPhysicalTherapy West S.
👏👏👏💗💗💗
Thanks!
I disagree