Buying and Fixing ANOTHER Vintage Tama Drum Set
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Yet another Tama drum set unboxing, yet another used drum set in the collection, yet another drum kit to fill up my house... lol. I've owned a vintage Tama Superstar, Imperialstar, and Fibrestar, but never any of the lower end drum kits from back then. This is a Tama Royalstar in Brazilian Grain finish. Its not actually rosewood, but if you knew nothing about the kit and saw it from a distance you would probably never know haha. Its not even a veneer! Nothing too crazy about this kit, but it need a quick restoration. A little finish retouching and a couple deep gouges filled. I'm no expert on these types of repairs but I figured this would be a great kit to practice on. The snare used is that Ludwig Acrolite I found at Goodwill forever ago. I LOVE that snare 😁
I Bought ANOTHER Vintage Tama Drum Set
Is there such thing as too many Tamas??
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Ah this takes me back. The Royalstar was my first ever kit. Bought it 2ndd hand off some dude and it was a 13" and a 16" tpms + the base drum. He apparently salvaged it - found the kit in a pile where some junkies found the shells and were prepared to use it for firewood. No hardware, no nothing. He gave them 10 bucks for the shells, restored them with some other off brand lugs and the rest of the hardware. Had to cut the tom short since it was rotten half way. I'm very sentimental watching this. That badge carries so much history for me.
Interesting! My first Tama kit was a Royalstar from I think 82 or 83... and it was huge! Two 22" bass drums, 8, 10, 12, 13 toms, 16, 18 floor toms and a 6x14 steel snare... and all the stands for around $800!
I sold it when I went to Berklee in 1986 for.... $800! And bought a new Yamaha Recording Custom kit for.... $800!!!!
Wes- you were the only guy I knew who had the Royalstars and you made them sound great back then! I was playing those Artstar cordias at Berklee same time you were there. Still got 'em as a matter of fact. Bill Good
@@boblob2003 Wow, thanks Bill! Nice to hear from you. Kinda wish I still had the Royalstars from back then... Good for you hanging onto your Artstars, amazing drums!
I just recently sold the Yamahas too. But I am loving playing my '65 Ludwigs, its strange how we end up back where we started!
You do such a Domino with $800 !!!
$800 went a long way in the 80s!
Het Davie, thanks for this videos, since 10k followers and will keep watching, God bless you
rock on!
They may have used a large wood grain stamp that wraps around the drum. I use something pretty similar when I build theatre sets and have to make certain parts of theatre props look like “wood”
Dave i dare you to buy and play a double bass drum kit
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This has to be one of the most misunderstood kits (and lines) that Tama ever made. This particular kit is first generation Brazilian Grain kit, shells are 9-ply Lauan (Philippine Mahogany). The second generation Brazilian Grain kits are different drums altogether with the Lauan/Shina combination you mentioned in the video. As for the first generation kits (like yours) they are the only 9-ply lauan shell kits that Tama made that weren't wrapped with plastic finish. They are, essentially, lacquered versions their Imperialstar drums of the time, though using the Royalstar/Swingstar motorboat lugs. They are fully professional drums, however (Tama went back and forth making the Royalstars pro/entry level/pro/entry level it seems --- couldn't figure out what to do with the line).
Among my drum collection I actually have two of these 1st gen Brazilian Grain Royalstar kits, and record with them often. The latter Gen 2 versions (which have deeper shells with a darker version of this finish, 8 lugs per head on the kick, etc.) are true entry level drums with the crummy lauan/shina shells (shina is so soft most of these finishes are pretty much destroyed by now). The latter version did offer 8" and 10" toms as add ons, which I wish they had done with the first version, but still I love these drums. And because they are badged "Royalstar" they are usually a very reasonable, price wise, when you find them. Just make sure to by the 1st gen and not the second!! Great video!!
Thanks for the info! I usually try and go off of old catalogs for info, but had no idea there were 2 versions 🤘
G'day from Australia mate . Love your videos , got a few suggestions that might help with the refurbishments . If where the wood is scratched is also indented , try putting a damp tea towel over it and gently iron it with a clothes iron . The steam will lift the wood grain out . Another trick to cover scratches if you can't match the stain , is use boot polish and then use furniture polish over it . Keep up the great work .
As I remember it, Tamas lines at that time were (from cheapest to priciest and thus lowest to highest quality): 1. Swingstar, 2. Royalstar, 3. Imperialstar, 4. Superstar, 5. Artstar Cordia (in '84) 🙂 And man, I always admire his patience whenever he's doing stuff like fixing those scratches! 😯 And yay, it's the Acrolite again! 😄👍
Dang that so confusing for me 😂 I grew up with all the “new” reputations, so it’s all backwards. Imperialstars are for beginners now then Superstar, then Starclassic and at the top is Star not to mention their SLP series somewhere between superstar and starclassic…
@@matiasgastou - If it's any consolation, I have absolutely zero idea about *today's* Tama lines! 😆 I do know that the Imperialstar strangely is an entry-level kit now, just like you said 😀
@@mightyV444 Tama likes to recycle names from the past and use them on the lower lines.
@@mightyV444 The difference for those Imperialstars now are that they're made of poplar wood while the vintage Imperialstars of the 70s and 80s are luan Mahogany (basically Asian firewood).
The Superstars of the 70s and 80s were made of birch, while current Superstars today are maple. The Starclassics started around 1994 were 8ply Mahogany and 1ply birch. The 2nd gen SC's were completely birch and by the 3rd gen around the painted badges era (when Japan still did it before moving production to China, as China does metal badges instead) they're Maple with other wood options to choose from like bubinga.
@@Assimilator702 - Yeah, I know! Some of those names go as far back as when Tama were still 'Star', too! My very first kit (in '81) was a mix of Star and Sonor drums 🙂
David! I remember really loving your channel when I started getting into drumming around late 2017. I think you had 40k subscribers then or so. I honestly got away from drums for a bit and started my own RUclips channel around guitar gear, but got the itch to jump into drums again recently, and have been binge watching your channel ever since.
Thanks for all the great content, and thanks for actually inspiring me to start my own channel for drums as a passion side project to my main channel. Love your approach and glad to see you having so much success with the channel!
Those are great drums- they actually weren't super lower line. Hope you like 'em!!
They were placed just under Superstars if I'm not wrong. And I think they came with steel bd hoops
@@markomarkovic5729 mine came the same same natural finish maple hoops
They look like the kind of kit Dave Grohl rocked in early Nirvana days?
@@johncollins5552 Dave Grohl played z& recorded with a Tama Rockstar while in Nirvana
@@markomarkovic5729 zavisi koje su godine proizvedeni . moj Royalstar sam kupio 1983 u Nemackoj , red wine finish , imao je drvene obruce na bas bubnju u istoj red wine boji .
Started watching your videos at 7am this morning and haven't stopped. Glad I found you. Very entertaining for drummers. Keep it up bro 😉
I don’t normally click on “unboxing videos”- but when I do, it’s because I saw beautiful wood grain. What a lovely kit.
I had a beginner Pearl kit circa 1987 (pre-Export) that had mahogany shells. I removed the wrap and finished the wood with stain and the shells looked exactly like your kit here. It actually sounded pretty good with the wrap removed and after cleaning up the crude bearing edges. Nice find.
It ALWAYS amazes me, just how good rd is.
We love to see it my friends. Thanks for the upload rdavidr
Cool kit! From what I read it’s a photo- print-on finish. Hence going over the bearing edge. Looks sweet though! Fender Japan made some printed flame maple top guitars in a similar way.
Nice! Clear pinstripes for that authentic 'tubby' sound. Great!
Man, what a great sounding kit! This particular kit is the first generation Brazilian Grain kit. The shells are 9-ply Philippine Mahogany. True pro-level drums! You prolly got a helluva deal on them as well
Forget the drum set. What a great groove you laid down.
I owned Tama Royalstars ( 1983 , red wine finish , 22x16, 12x9 , 13x10,16x16 , steel Royalstar snare 14x6/5 ) they are great sounding drums !!! they are not cheap starter drums , back in 1983 about 2200 DM ( german mark = 1100 euro today ) , with good heads that is a great touring kit .
🥁 🖌👍 brown tama paint job.
New video with session played with rub sticks?!
It turned out really nice-sounds great! I have an old Imperialstar kit with the same badges. The edges are sharp and when they turn out a little, they catch the lining in my cases. I’ve even cut myself on them- be careful!
David. I love vintage TAMA. I just finished putting together an 83-84 superstar cherry wine kit with an 82 Mint imperialstar king beat snare. Love it. 13x12, 15x14 FT, 16x16FT, 22X16 KICK. I know you would love it. Keep em coming.
This kit looks/sounds amazing
How the hell does a drummer, get a CERIAL SPONSOR………like how did the email go and who green lit it. Like the board meeting was like “OK YALL WE NEED MORE PR. WHO HAS ANY IDEAS” “Well I watching the drummer on RUclips who’s always complaining about how little he gets paid”
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They are all over the place,they also sponsor wrestling shows so I think they just sponsor accounts that have a considerable amount of followers and views
People honestly forget a drum is still ultimately a drum. The heads and playing is still 90% of it. Everything else is personal luxuries. If you have solid shells, a few tweaks can save you thousands. Sure you dont get to flaunt the newest coolest toy, but it sounds good, and can look good. Thats what its about. And vintage drums will sound 100% better than the new drums in the same price range
The interval between the toms is very pleasing. . Will check back to see if anyone figured how the finish goes up and around like that.
I have an 84 tama super star out in the garage. 14,15,18 i think 20 inch bass drum. It's basically half of a big dbl bass kit they sold as 2 sets. 😆
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5:25 Maybe a dark brown Sharpie would've been better ? There are multiple shades of Sharpie browns :)
Great job, they sound great too. The color makes me think of fudge brownie ice cream. 😄
My understanding is that the finish is a type of early digital "printing". The Royalstars are fantastic MIJ vintage drums. Nice find.
The venere reminds me of the "wood" paneling we had in my childhood bedroom. It's so close.
Still have my Tama Swingstar. That was the entry level. 10 piece for about 800 new. Made with some kind of presswood. Sounds great
That kit turned out pretty great and I have to say they sound great. Great job.
What a nice sounding and looking kit!!! Also you did a great job fixing all them scratches and dents!!!
I liked that transition into Magic Spoon
Unrelated...check out Gretsch’s recent Will Calhoun video. He has a Duelist pedal and does some neat stuff with it!
Those upturned badge corners can be vicious; I once gave myself a five stitch cut on my hh palm while tuning up an hour before a show lol
That is a great looking and sounding kit dude! Great work 👌🏻👌🏻
I had an 80s Tama Superstar that was just trashed by previous owner. I tried to eliminate the many scratches but it's tough to match faded stains on a kit.
Great sounding kit and you play it very well.
we just enjoy seeing you, David
I think your finish retouch is pretty solid.
Wow, it's beautiful. That floor tom sounds like a kick drum!
My double kit is also a Tama Royalstar! I bought it used and I added later some custom wraps over it. I still have the second bass drum in the basement and I'll probably add it later.
your amazing man, just like me, getting something damaged and givin it a new chance, plus really good deals there man! congrats! Lovely kit by the way man!!!!
That head combo for the Tom's are kilker!!
I am going to buy Magic Spoon now because I never heard of it and your sales pitch seemed genuine.
yesssssss ^^ the royal star finally, learnt drumming on the snare tama royal star
i really like the wood grain finish of this set
Cool looking kit. Floor tom sounded good.
My first kit was a royalstar in cherry red back in 1984. I played quite a few gigs with them and ended up selling them. I made a few bucks with sale but it was a dumb move. I still miss them to this day
How many drum set do you need?
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(It sounds great, btw.)
Love your channel been here for a few years now love this
Man that kick sounds superb.. super punchy and quick. That’s the sound I dream to get out of my kick
I would gave rubbed it with some dark Old English polish. Works really well on any dark wood!
Quite the nice-sounding kit, there.
I recently sold a dead mint version of this kit. I have the original tama black dots as well as the royalstar clear Kick Reso head if anyone is looking. The guy who bought it didn't want them, someone out there must want them.
that floor tom is lovely
Ive used Howard orange oil on guitar fret boards for years and love it .Menards carries it , Great videos
Ive got a few swingstars that im currently working on. One with lower toms. Imperialstar too. A lot of work restoring. Nice job on this one!
You know, didn't really see the cereal ad coming, but I will be checking out that cinnamon and blueberry flavor of the cereal brand lol
Tama Rockstar is another cool kit
DAVID YOU NEED THE TAMA SWINGSTAR NOW
Really liked how these drums sounded, the touch up also went really well! I am a guitarist and bassist looking to get a drum set when I have the scratch set aside. Kind of already have a penchant for Japanese made gear, been thinking a vintage Tama set like this or a Superstar would make a great kit to learn on and not need to upgrade any time soon. Any opinions would be appreciated.
I have a superstar from 1982 that I will never part with. I have toured and recorded with and it is great. Still going strong after 40 years! I rotate snares, cymbals and different drum heads depending on the assignment but the 24" bass, 14" rack and 16 and 18" floors have been the same. Timeless.
@@Ds_Drums Appreciate the feedback, sounds like they have been pretty dependable. I'm keeping my eye out for the right set at the right price and chances are it'll be an older Tama set like yours. Glad to hear they've been serving you well, hope they go strong for another 40.
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I think they sound amazing .
Cereal as a midnight snack? Smoke em if you got em I guess.
it is painted on , how i don't know. important to say is that the wood type is Philippine Mahogany (Luan) not to be confused with the other Mahogany types. Great job on fixing the scratches
I believe the Royalstar line used the luan for the inner plies and the outer and interior plies were shina for a nicer finish. It's what separated them from the swingstar line.
A tip for getting light wood dents out. Use a soldering iron and a damp rag. It’ll steam it up and hopefully pop the dents out.
Those sound so good bro! Keep up the awesome work!
For the lifting badge, use some CA glue and hit it with CA accelerator while you're holding the corner down.
Hydro dipped is definitely what I was thinking.
That kick drum sound though…. 😍
Super stoked to nerd out watchin this vid
Those toms sound great, especially the floor tom!
My first Tama was a swingstar. I think it was 70s or 80s. It had speckled paint on the inside and dampeners.
The toms sound great
That was the smoothest sponsorship slide in ive ever seen😂
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Beautiful little set. Love it!
I have type 1 diabetes so I might try magic spoon.
Oh man what's the crazy cymbal on the right side?
What are the hihats? They sound great
You should build a drumkit out of a Fieldstar marching snare and bass drum
Old Tama kits, beginner or professional to me all sound great in their own ways. I would rather own this or the Rockstar/Swingstar series than today's Starclassic line.
Having just bought a modern starclassic set, I'm curious what you find wrong in them?
I have a piano black swingstar set I'd sell
@@djentlover I have no disrespect for the Starclassic line, they sound great too. But I like bigger and deeper sizes. Now I know the ones showcased here aren't power toms, but in the mid 80's the beginner lines of Tama kits were just eye candy and sounded incredible.
I play a cheap stencil kit, but replaced some of the drums with a Granstar Custom 12 x 11 rack tom, a 14x13 Rockstar rack tom and a 14 x 6.5 Swingstar steel snare. All made in Japan.
@@djentlover I guess his problem is that your kit isn't 30+ yrs old😂
Same, nothing beats the vintage Tama's, to me, they sound better and you can pick them up for way cheaper so win win
I really like the tuning of these toms
On the badge, if you have a buddy that does autobody work he could finesse those badges down with an autobody hammer.
That kit sounds pretty sweet!
Nice sounding kit. I'll check the cereal out!
Those hi hats are the exact sound I want from hats
Sounds pretty good Mr Dave. I love your videos here from India. You inspire me alot so my friend and i custom made a 10 inch tom.
This one is definitely a keeper!
those magic spoon look like an industrial biproduct
What are the hats used there? The note is perfect…and they aren’t listed in the gear! 🙏🏻
Wow! The kit sounds incredible, great low Punchy tones which that old Philippine mahogany provides. Did you possibly consider paste wax and buff to add the possible shine and protection you desire? Worth the try my friend! Thank you for posting
Listening to the kit, one word comes to mind:buttery.
And for the "grain", what about roller stamping?
I've got to look into getting a set with internal tom muffling, that thing sounds awesome!
hip kit for sure!