This conversation reveals so much about tokenism in reality tv. It never occurred to me that multiple members of the cast could have expressed that they’re lgbt to producers but that it just isn’t mentioned - that’s crazy to me
I think I have bing watched all the episodes in last four days and it has been amazing to see all this amazing people just being open and proud. Thank you.
What an interesting episode! As a viewer, if you don't personally know anyone who's been on TV, you always ask yourself how much of Reality TV is real and how much is scripted, so I find it fascinating to hear people who've been there talk about the behind the scenes stuff openly! Also, I don't know if you take suggestions for guests, I'm just gonna drop it here: I would LOVE an episode with Zolita! 💖 I fell in love with her music and music videos lately, she's such incredible representation, especially for femme lesbians and her art is just so much fun. She writes the best sapphic love songs! 🙌🏳️🌈 Hope you're having a great day and I'm already looking forward to the next episode!
Everyone going on or interested in reality tv should watch UnReal. It’s fiction, but it basically explains everything they made Jasmine and the others do. The producers knew exactly what they were doing. Psychological manipulation at its finest. It will take a long time for those shows to improve, bc they are meant to be palatable for the Karen types in middle America. “Love Always” tried a bachelorette type thing with college aged men and women of different sexualities, but they kind of kept dating each other and not the bachelorette. Lol
Oh i just remembered, when she said she wanted to go home, so she got lit, yes she's the one who offered to choke Nick!!! Hahaha!! Iconic bachelor moment!
Level up the u-haul/ghost questionnaire, please. Curious to hear what are the most often ignored, reject-worthy red flags vs. winner white flags in a first date, after a first week or month of dating? Maybe ask the guest to give one example of each.
I love the perspective Jasmine gave about being on The Bachelor. Cause these very heteronormative shows will make you believe that most of these contestants are straight. I gues they appeal to 'middle america' so they keep it that way. The only parts of this show I warched was Rachel seasob of being The Bachelorette (as the 1st Black Bachelorette) Colton's season (which was messy) and in 2019 Bachelor in Paradise where they featured for the 1st time a same sex pairing with Demi and Kristian. After that I realuze this franchise is not for me and stopped watching. I guess the only straight dating show I watch now is Love is Blind. Luckily we have places to watch queers dating each other like the German dating show Princess Charming, Out for Love with Amber from Ambers Closet (eps on RUclips)
I think bachelor in paradise format would work best for a queer version...queer bachelor or bachelorette doesnt seem feesible, because the lead spends so little time with the contestants, the contestants would all just fall in love with each other lol
I think the reason the show doesn't focus on bisexual relationships is because there is a smaller audience for it. Otherwise all films would focus on same sex relationships as much as or more than hetero relationships. It appears that every time writers try to focus more on same sex relationships being the core theme, the show looses ratings and it gets cancelled. Like the series Batwoman. Not enough women are into women enough to want to watch that. And there is no story theme for straight men to be interested in, so lots of people stopped watching. Same goes for Supergirl the series, etc. It's about the numbers. I wonder if Jasmine saw the film Gay Bros, because most women, gay or straight, didn't watch that for the same reason.
Honestly i always thought these shows were Cringe...Like 10 women drooling over a man and fighting with each other for his attention...Thats totally a male perspective and a Man's fantasy that reflects in the show....i feel pity for straight women...Patriarchy made them hate each other...💔💔💔
🙏🙏🙏 ایراد از خودشونه وگرنه من خیلی خواهم داشت و من مقصر نیستم بالاخره این این رابطه با همه رابطه ها متفاوت هستش و عجیب و از دوردست ها احساس یک جنس دیگر است و با خیال و فکر و صحبت اصلا نمیشه فهمید و درک کرد وخوب شگفتی هایی هم خواهد داشت البته 💚💚💚💚🙏🙏🙏
I typically love this podcast, but this episode felt like such a letdown. This podcast has continuously pushed that this is a space for lesbians & that only lesbians are involved & then I wake up & not only is the next guest not a lesbian but both her & the host are using bisexual & gay/lesbian interchangeably as if they mean the same thing? Then the host says that a bisexual woman is going on Bravo to represent lesbians? What? How? I don't understand how both a lesbian & a bi woman are both just casually contributing to the erasure of bi women in queer relationships & the meaning of the word 'lesbian'. Bi women or are still bi when they date women & lesbians don't date men or find them attractive. I can see that a man is attractive but I am not attracted to that man or any man. I don't understand why there's been a resent push to blur the lines btw bi & lesbian & why this only happens with women while gay & bi men never seem to face this issue as a community.
Well my opinion bi women are gay / lesbian because they are attracted to women, but they are also bi because they are attracted to the opposite sex, I don’t think it’s wrong to use those words interchangeably for a bi woman, what is wrong is biphobia
This conversation reveals so much about tokenism in reality tv. It never occurred to me that multiple members of the cast could have expressed that they’re lgbt to producers but that it just isn’t mentioned - that’s crazy to me
They need to have lesbian bachelor season
Theres a german show called Princess Charming but it is hard to find. Its so good!
I think I have bing watched all the episodes in last four days and it has been amazing to see all this amazing people just being open and proud. Thank you.
You need to interview one of the girls from the Ultimatum Queer Love
Yessss she should hav Mal on!!!!
Yes !! 🙌
Yessssssss
Until he opened his mouth 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah like most of these ''Bachelors'' or ''Bachelorettes'' on those shows. Sad. :/
I never knew that @@magyarmelinda4659
For those who havent seen the show “UnReal”, it does a lot to take you inside the perspective of how producers for show like the bachelor think 😅
What an interesting episode! As a viewer, if you don't personally know anyone who's been on TV, you always ask yourself how much of Reality TV is real and how much is scripted, so I find it fascinating to hear people who've been there talk about the behind the scenes stuff openly!
Also, I don't know if you take suggestions for guests, I'm just gonna drop it here: I would LOVE an episode with Zolita! 💖 I fell in love with her music and music videos lately, she's such incredible representation, especially for femme lesbians and her art is just so much fun. She writes the best sapphic love songs! 🙌🏳️🌈
Hope you're having a great day and I'm already looking forward to the next episode!
this is my favourite podcast at the minute, LOVE it!! Thank you Mal & Mathilde 🤍 🙌🏻
Omg ! I didn't expect to see a DCC on your show ! That's so cool. I remember Jasmine from her days in the DCC in seasons 7, 8, 9 and 10 of the show.
This is my favorite interview of yours so far Mal. Jasmine is such a breath of fresh air and I just love the vibe you both give off. Well done.
Love the honesty and kinda get like behind the scenes ❤ that’s so fun thanks for sharing
Loved it, thanks for another great episode👏🏾🤗
Thank you Mal 🥰🥰
Aus has a season of bisexual bachelorette, it’s def not perfect, it’s def not perfect but it’s entertaining
I love how candid she is, amazing 😂
Yesss, Mal, please go on the bachelor and date all the contestants and make them pine over you!
Another great episode! 😌 Also I love how most of us just jump to U-Haul before any of the questions are asked😂
Hi Mal I was waiting for this show love your podcast.I like your laugh yoh the person who listens to that laugh every day they so luck 💞👌🤩🙈
Matilde!! Please make a RUclips bachelorette with lesbians !!!!
Jasmine’s interview was amazing!
Such a fun convo
Everyone going on or interested in reality tv should watch UnReal. It’s fiction, but it basically explains everything they made Jasmine and the others do. The producers knew exactly what they were doing. Psychological manipulation at its finest. It will take a long time for those shows to improve, bc they are meant to be palatable for the Karen types in middle America.
“Love Always” tried a bachelorette type thing with college aged men and women of different sexualities, but they kind of kept dating each other and not the bachelorette. Lol
One of my fave eps!
Amazing episode ☺️❤️ we need a lesbian bachelor season
There are two German reality TV shows kind of like the bachelor that are all women (Princess Charming) and all men (Charming Boys) 🎉
YES, I was so excited when Princess Charming was announced for the first time! 🙌🏳️🌈
Thanks for this episode.
Loved this episode! Love you, Mal!❤❤
They had а bi Australian Bachelorette where they had both women and men contestants like 4 years ago or so!
This hits home
Colton came out as gay after he was Bachelor
jasmine seems so cool. i want to watch her show now
This is also a nice story and a great show, will Mathilde beat it next week? 😂 #Mathildenextweek
hahahhaah every week your comments kill me!!! Chack4845 is my soulmate!
@@hiportugal ok then come soon on the show please 😍
Oh i just remembered, when she said she wanted to go home, so she got lit, yes she's the one who offered to choke Nick!!! Hahaha!! Iconic bachelor moment!
Level up the u-haul/ghost questionnaire, please. Curious to hear what are the most often ignored, reject-worthy red flags vs. winner white flags in a first date, after a first week or month of dating? Maybe ask the guest to give one example of each.
MY FAV! Obsessed with herr!!!
I love the perspective Jasmine gave about being on The Bachelor. Cause these very heteronormative shows will make you believe that most of these contestants are straight. I gues they appeal to 'middle america' so they keep it that way. The only parts of this show I warched was Rachel seasob of being The Bachelorette (as the 1st Black Bachelorette) Colton's season (which was messy) and in 2019 Bachelor in Paradise where they featured for the 1st time a same sex pairing with Demi and Kristian. After that I realuze this franchise is not for me and stopped watching. I guess the only straight dating show I watch now is Love is Blind. Luckily we have places to watch queers dating each other like the German dating show Princess Charming, Out for Love with Amber from Ambers Closet (eps on RUclips)
Hi Jasmine love you girl 💞
I think bachelor in paradise format would work best for a queer version...queer bachelor or bachelorette doesnt seem feesible, because the lead spends so little time with the contestants, the contestants would all just fall in love with each other lol
Tíla tequila had a bisexual dating show
How lovely!
I think the reason the show doesn't focus on bisexual relationships is because there is a smaller audience for it. Otherwise all films would focus on same sex relationships as much as or more than hetero relationships. It appears that every time writers try to focus more on same sex relationships being the core theme, the show looses ratings and it gets cancelled. Like the series Batwoman. Not enough women are into women enough to want to watch that. And there is no story theme for straight men to be interested in, so lots of people stopped watching. Same goes for Supergirl the series, etc. It's about the numbers. I wonder if Jasmine saw the film Gay Bros, because most women, gay or straight, didn't watch that for the same reason.
I think im bi 😭 keep going lesbian is right 👍👍
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What bravo show is she in?
the valley!
Jasmine, please send your therapists contact info!!
Honestly i always thought these shows were Cringe...Like 10 women drooling over a man and fighting with each other for his attention...Thats totally a male perspective and a Man's fantasy that reflects in the show....i feel pity for straight women...Patriarchy made them hate each other...💔💔💔
Australia had a bi Bachelorette.
Chewing mouth open 😳😳 oooohh no
😎😃😊😜😍😘💖🌹
Mal!!!!!
🙏🙏🙏
ایراد از خودشونه وگرنه من خیلی خواهم داشت و من مقصر نیستم
بالاخره این این رابطه با همه رابطه ها متفاوت هستش و عجیب و از دوردست ها احساس یک جنس دیگر است و با خیال و فکر و صحبت اصلا نمیشه فهمید و درک کرد وخوب شگفتی هایی هم خواهد داشت البته
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Cheers to gay friends! 🥰🥂🥰
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Mal, u should go on the bachelor. Lite it up ffs
I typically love this podcast, but this episode felt like such a letdown. This podcast has continuously pushed that this is a space for lesbians & that only lesbians are involved & then I wake up & not only is the next guest not a lesbian but both her & the host are using bisexual & gay/lesbian interchangeably as if they mean the same thing? Then the host says that a bisexual woman is going on Bravo to represent lesbians? What? How? I don't understand how both a lesbian & a bi woman are both just casually contributing to the erasure of bi women in queer relationships & the meaning of the word 'lesbian'. Bi women or are still bi when they date women & lesbians don't date men or find them attractive. I can see that a man is attractive but I am not attracted to that man or any man. I don't understand why there's been a resent push to blur the lines btw bi & lesbian & why this only happens with women while gay & bi men never seem to face this issue as a community.
Well my opinion bi women are gay / lesbian because they are attracted to women, but they are also bi because they are attracted to the opposite sex, I don’t think it’s wrong to use those words interchangeably for a bi woman, what is wrong is biphobia