I think you're being a little harsh on Mean Streets. It probably should not be on this list. There are definitely source limitations, which is no fault of the disc, and the color timing concerns are bogus. This restoration was completed by Criterion and Second Sight. Both transfers are exactly the same. When the negative reviews started coming, Second Sight was very quick to clarify (something Criterion should have done themselves). All prior home video releases were never approved by Scorcese and were NOT accurate. This restoration referenced not one but TWO archived prints: one from The Academy and one of Scorceses personal archive. Both prints have similar color values and were used for the new grade. This is an excellent restoration for what the source is. It was never going to look like Lawrence of Arabia.
No I agree with you. It’s not bad and I still think it’s the best the film has ever looked. I put it on the list because there is a lot of disappointment with the releases and I understand why there would be because it does look different from previous releases. I think it’s similar to how people feel about changes to the 3 colors trilogy and in the mood for love. I my self wasn’t totally disappointed and actually think it’s god but expected it to be a little better. I can’t sit here and say it’s a great transfer though. It’s definitely ok though.
I spent $6,000 on home theater system this year with that b.s. Best Buy Tech crap. 8 months later and one of the speakers fails and they want me to haul a tower speaker instead of sending someone to pick it up like when they delivered it.
It took 4 csr on the phone just to someone to come look at it. Then when he arrives and he sees he can't fix it calls manufacture and tell they can send a part over. Now the tech calls his boss so I can ask for them to just take the current speaker and drop off a new one and that way you can take your time waiting for a part and then fixing it. He said no. So I ask him what am I paying this Total Tech membership for? He says you bring the speaker in and will fix it with the part for free. But he doesn't know how long that will take. SO instead, I called speaker manufacture and had the part mailed to me and I fixed it myself.@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia
Mean streets?? Martin never approved or worked on any other transfer besides criterion Lots of people jumped on a hate MS train and they act like they are professional color timers with experience spanning decades
Just based on what I see with my eyes is that there was color timing and grading changes, It’s actually very obvious and noticeable. I don’t think it’s a bad transfer overall, It’s just a little disappointing. It’s still the best movie has ever looked and i’m not sure it’s possible to look better but I also can’t sit here and lie and say it’s an amazing transfer because it’s just not. It’s also my opinion and I completely understand and respect if you disagree me.
Happy New Year! Great video man. My favourite action hero series of all time has to be Lethal Weapon. I wish I could say Die Hard… But the last one was too weak to put them up. lol
Happy New Year and thank you so much I appreciate it. I honestly think Lethal Weapon is my favorite also. Even the fourth one is hugely rewatchable for me!
Oof, bad take on Mean Streets. It looks great to me. The film stock wasn't as great as Scorsese other movie. Apparently the boy ray was wrong and that's what people were judging it on.
I actually didn’t compare it to a blu ray. I compared it to a few other sources that all matched up and only the 4K had the new color timing. I’m not really saying it’s a bad 4K in fact I think it’s good it’s just disappointing because it could have been much better in my opinion.
lmaooo I did grab a few when I was at best but. There weren’t to many left. I still don’t like the design but For $10 and 4K scans, You can’t pass that up lol
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia I got all of them Literally all of them And if you’re that hung up on the case, just put the 4K disk in your regular packaging.
@lordrayden3045 No i’m not a big packaging guy. I appreciate good art work and nice cases but that’s not going to prevent from getting something but good artwork can convince to buy something loll. They made the list because I feel like to celebrate a 100 years of one of the most famous movie studios they could have done better lol. If they would of had them all at my Best Buy I would of got them
I also like the Rocky v Drago cut, but think Stallone’s decision to reformat it to 2.35:1 was a huge mistake. I don’t believe it was originally shot with this aspect ratio in mind, and it feels cramped and artificially forced into frame quite often.
I’ll have to go back and look at that and see what the original aspect ratio was. I was watching the making of doc for that and it seems like he was giving direction for what he wanted and wasn’t getting any push back so I can see that happening for sure.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia Original aspect was 1.85:1. 2.35:1 forced Stallone to “pan and scan” vertically to capture the image he desired. Watch the final fight in both aspects. To me it, and the entire film, works so much better in the original aspect, because it was originally shot for it.
@1165mac Im going to check that out. I thought we were past the “pan and scan” days now that tvs can fit what ever aspect ratio the film was filmed in. But I guess if you have a desired image you’ll have to stretch it.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia Apparently, Stallone wanted the new cut to have a more epic widescreen quality even at the expense of losing some of the top and bottom of the original image. I don’t get it. I love the 2.35:1 aspect and even have a 2.35:1 projection screen, but not when a film isn’t originally photographed with this aspect in mind. James Cameron made famous the Super 35 format by filming in an open matte 1.85:1 aspect to maintain sharpness from edge to edge, but leaving plenty of room at the top and bottom of the frame to ultimately print it at 2.35:1. It works great, if this was your plan all along. Rocky IV was released theatrically in 1.85:1 and comparing it to Rocky v Drago convinced me that it was never planned to reformat it to 2.35:1. Too much of the essential image is cropped and it feels very cramped to me. Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos!
Yepe!!! i’m glad i’m not the only person who’s felt this way. I’ve always heard people trash the movie and I get it. But still you can’t say you’re not entertained lol.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia Rocky III is my favourite (love that movie !!!) but I liked Rocky V and although I've not seen it in a while, I preferred it to Rocky IV myself.
I thought Weird Science had a fine 4k transfer. It was grain heavy, but I’m not personally a grain hater so was fine with it. It was in ‘20th and 21st movies’ top 10 list for 2023. I couldn’t hold out for the Second Sight Mean Streets release, so the Criterion Mean Streets is arriving with me here in the UK this week. Will temper my expectations with regard to the picture quality. The Firm would have been on my list, that was a pretty mediocre transfer. The worst looking disc for me though was American Graffiti. It was terrible and the sound wasn’t much better either, so it got sold on eBay.
I saw that he had that on his list and he’s one of my favorite Physical media channels so we will just have to disagree on that. The only thing is I don’t consider it a bad release I just think there was a lot more potential and some of those grainy scenes were just to grainy and I thought it took away from the scam overall. I’m still happy to own it just a little disappointed. That’s the reason American Graffiti is on this, Not one person said it was a good scan. Thats really a shame too because I wanted to revisit it and thought the new 4K would be a good opportunity.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia as a 44 year old, I remember watching Weird Science a lot growing up on Tv and from recollection, it’s always been a very grainy looking movie - especially in some of the opening shots. I think it’s inherent with the way the movie was filmed. I can’t think of a reason why Arrow would add grain to a source and I think if they’d used DNR to scrub the grain, it would have resulted with heavier criticism. I guess it’s a choice of choose your poison with this release. American Graffiti actually has a good review from Movie Collector, who has a great RUclips channel. He is extremely knowledgeable of the look of different film stock and argues that the look is consistent with the stock used to shoot this film. I normally agree with his views, but in this instance I can only vote with my eyes and if that’s how it’s supposed to look and sound, it’s certainly not for me. Even on the sound, I found it really inconsistent and recall hearing some very strange echo effects to voices, which was off putting. The picture to me looked like heavy dnr was applied and it was overly dark and colours looked dull and faded.
@benpascall4297 That’s what I’ve heard is that it’s overwhelmed with DNR. That kind of lines up with how George Lucas has liked his previous releases to look. I can’t argue if that’s how they like something to look it’s their right but I agree you have to use your eyes and if you don’t like it then you don’t like it. Some people like a ton of DNR I personally don’t. It can be used to fix certain things but to apply to the whole film and eliminate all grain is just insane to me. It makes the skin look so fake and waxy.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia After they are done blowing out what they have, I’m never going back, I don’t give a shit if their TV prices are lower, I’ll pay more somewhere else
I think you're being a little harsh on Mean Streets. It probably should not be on this list. There are definitely source limitations, which is no fault of the disc, and the color timing concerns are bogus. This restoration was completed by Criterion and Second Sight. Both transfers are exactly the same. When the negative reviews started coming, Second Sight was very quick to clarify (something Criterion should have done themselves). All prior home video releases were never approved by Scorcese and were NOT accurate. This restoration referenced not one but TWO archived prints: one from The Academy and one of Scorceses personal archive. Both prints have similar color values and were used for the new grade. This is an excellent restoration for what the source is. It was never going to look like Lawrence of Arabia.
No I agree with you. It’s not bad and I still think it’s the best the film has ever looked. I put it on the list because there is a lot of disappointment with the releases and I understand why there would be because it does look different from previous releases. I think it’s similar to how people feel about changes to the 3 colors trilogy and in the mood for love. I my self wasn’t totally disappointed and actually think it’s god but expected it to be a little better. I can’t sit here and say it’s a great transfer though. It’s definitely ok though.
Happy new year bro and appreciate all the physical movie content you’ve provided, cheers and thanks ✊👏
Happy New Year buddy! Thanks so much for checking put the videos I really appreciate it!Cheers 🍻
Best Buy abandoned me. I abandon them. For the other things too. Simple.
My exact mindset going into 2024.
I spent $6,000 on home theater system this year with that b.s. Best Buy Tech crap. 8 months later and one of the speakers fails and they want me to haul a tower speaker instead of sending someone to pick it up like when they delivered it.
@ricogomez4020 Thats crazy. They should just send over someone with the geek squad van unless they stoped doing that too.
It took 4 csr on the phone just to someone to come look at it. Then when he arrives and he sees he can't fix it calls manufacture and tell they can send a part over. Now the tech calls his boss so I can ask for them to just take the current speaker and drop off a new one and that way you can take your time waiting for a part and then fixing it. He said no. So I ask him what am I paying this Total Tech membership for? He says you bring the speaker in and will fix it with the part for free. But he doesn't know how long that will take. SO instead, I called speaker manufacture and had the part mailed to me and I fixed it myself.@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia
I agree with you on Ant Man. I absolutely hated that film. I wanted to walk out of the theater.
Yepe!! That’s time you can’t get back.
Mean streets?? Martin never approved or worked on any other transfer besides criterion
Lots of people jumped on a hate MS train and they act like they are professional color timers with experience spanning decades
Just based on what I see with my eyes is that there was color timing and grading changes, It’s actually very obvious and noticeable. I don’t think it’s a bad transfer overall, It’s just a little disappointing. It’s still the best movie has ever looked and i’m not sure it’s possible to look better but I also can’t sit here and lie and say it’s an amazing transfer because it’s just not. It’s also my opinion and I completely understand and respect if you disagree me.
I won a digital copy of Super Mario Bros Movie 2023 great way to start 2024
That’s an awesome way to start 2024! Congrats
Happy New Year! Great video man.
My favourite action hero series of all time has to be Lethal Weapon. I wish I could say Die Hard… But the last one was too weak to put them up. lol
Happy New Year and thank you so much I appreciate it. I honestly think Lethal Weapon is my favorite also. Even the fourth one is hugely rewatchable for me!
Congrats to the winners! Happy New Year everybody!
Thanks James Happy New Year Buddy!!
Everybody should avoid BEST BUY from now on. Don't even buy batteries from them.
I’m done
Oof, bad take on Mean Streets. It looks great to me. The film stock wasn't as great as Scorsese other movie. Apparently the boy ray was wrong and that's what people were judging it on.
I actually didn’t compare it to a blu ray. I compared it to a few other sources that all matched up and only the 4K had the new color timing. I’m not really saying it’s a bad 4K in fact I think it’s good it’s just disappointing because it could have been much better in my opinion.
Ill hold out. Weve gotta have Rocky 6 too
I agree it’s incomplete without the other two.
They're coming now. Fixed discs in the new set too.
I made my last in store purchase Oppenheimer :-(
I did mine a few weeks ago. It was Thor Love and Thunder. End of an era!
I bought the WEIRD SCIENCE on ARROW bluray on sale for like $12. Then they announce the 4k and it looks like I got a deal now.
Yea you probably did lol. I don’t think it’s the worst scam or even bad just that I thought it could have been better.
But…… you could get those Disney steelbook for $10 each
And I got them all
lmaooo I did grab a few when I was at best but. There weren’t to many left. I still don’t like the design but For $10 and 4K scans, You can’t pass that up lol
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia
I got all of them
Literally all of them
And if you’re that hung up on the case, just put the 4K disk in your regular packaging.
@lordrayden3045 No i’m not a big packaging guy. I appreciate good art work and nice cases but that’s not going to prevent from getting something but good artwork can convince to buy something loll. They made the list because I feel like to celebrate a 100 years of one of the most famous movie studios they could have done better lol. If they would of had them all at my Best Buy I would of got them
I also like the Rocky v Drago cut, but think Stallone’s decision to reformat it to 2.35:1 was a huge mistake. I don’t believe it was originally shot with this aspect ratio in mind, and it feels cramped and artificially forced into frame quite often.
I’ll have to go back and look at that and see what the original aspect ratio was. I was watching the making of doc for that and it seems like he was giving direction for what he wanted and wasn’t getting any push back so I can see that happening for sure.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia Original aspect was 1.85:1. 2.35:1 forced Stallone to “pan and scan” vertically to capture the image he desired. Watch the final fight in both aspects. To me it, and the entire film, works so much better in the original aspect, because it was originally shot for it.
@1165mac Im going to check that out. I thought we were past the “pan and scan” days now that tvs can fit what ever aspect ratio the film was filmed in. But I guess if you have a desired image you’ll have to stretch it.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia Apparently, Stallone wanted the new cut to have a more epic widescreen quality even at the expense of losing some of the top and bottom of the original image. I don’t get it. I love the 2.35:1 aspect and even have a 2.35:1 projection screen, but not when a film isn’t originally photographed with this aspect in mind. James Cameron made famous the Super 35 format by filming in an open matte 1.85:1 aspect to maintain sharpness from edge to edge, but leaving plenty of room at the top and bottom of the frame to ultimately print it at 2.35:1. It works great, if this was your plan all along. Rocky IV was released theatrically in 1.85:1 and comparing it to Rocky v Drago convinced me that it was never planned to reformat it to 2.35:1. Too much of the essential image is cropped and it feels very cramped to me. Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos!
@1165mac No problem it’s my pleasure and thank you for that information it’s really appreciated!
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Comic book movies weren't that good to begin with.
It depends on the movie, I’ve seen some amazing ones and then i’ve seen some that are just unbelievably bad lol.
I too like ROCKY 5. I liked that they went the way of a street fight for the big battle.
I liked that too. I know it’s cheesy but dam that movie is entertaining lol.
The street fight is real good too. Nice Elton John song at the end. @@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia
It's still the Rocky world and that world is entertaining.
Yepe!!! i’m glad i’m not the only person who’s felt this way. I’ve always heard people trash the movie and I get it. But still you can’t say you’re not entertained lol.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia Rocky III is my favourite (love that movie !!!) but I liked Rocky V and although I've not seen it in a while, I preferred it to Rocky IV myself.
I thought Weird Science had a fine 4k transfer. It was grain heavy, but I’m not personally a grain hater so was fine with it.
It was in ‘20th and 21st movies’ top 10 list for 2023.
I couldn’t hold out for the Second Sight Mean Streets release, so the Criterion Mean Streets is arriving with me here in the UK this week. Will temper my expectations with regard to the picture quality.
The Firm would have been on my list, that was a pretty mediocre transfer. The worst looking disc for me though was American Graffiti. It was terrible and the sound wasn’t much better either, so it got sold on eBay.
I saw that he had that on his list and he’s one of my favorite Physical media channels so we will just have to disagree on that. The only thing is I don’t consider it a bad release I just think there was a lot more potential and some of those grainy scenes were just to grainy and I thought it took away from the scam overall. I’m still happy to own it just a little disappointed.
That’s the reason American Graffiti is on this, Not one person said it was a good scan. Thats really a shame too because I wanted to revisit it and thought the new 4K would be a good opportunity.
@@LetsTalkEntertainmentMedia as a 44 year old, I remember watching Weird Science a lot growing up on Tv and from recollection, it’s always been a very grainy looking movie - especially in some of the opening shots. I think it’s inherent with the way the movie was filmed. I can’t think of a reason why Arrow would add grain to a source and I think if they’d used DNR to scrub the grain, it would have resulted with heavier criticism. I guess it’s a choice of choose your poison with this release.
American Graffiti actually has a good review from Movie Collector, who has a great RUclips channel. He is extremely knowledgeable of the look of different film stock and argues that the look is consistent with the stock used to shoot this film. I normally agree with his views, but in this instance I can only vote with my eyes and if that’s how it’s supposed to look and sound, it’s certainly not for me. Even on the sound, I found it really inconsistent and recall hearing some very strange echo effects to voices, which was off putting. The picture to me looked like heavy dnr was applied and it was overly dark and colours looked dull and faded.
@benpascall4297 That’s what I’ve heard is that it’s overwhelmed with DNR. That kind of lines up with how George Lucas has liked his previous releases to look. I can’t argue if that’s how they like something to look it’s their right but I agree you have to use your eyes and if you don’t like it then you don’t like it. Some people like a ton of DNR I personally don’t. It can be used to fix certain things but to apply to the whole film and eliminate all grain is just insane to me. It makes the skin look so fake and waxy.
Tommy Gunn in 4k? Absolutely! And the Don King impersonator
@ryanhuerta1024 lmaooooo The most obvious Don King Rip off.
Yeah f#ck Best Buy
hahahaha
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After they are done blowing out what they have, I’m never going back, I don’t give a shit if their TV prices are lower, I’ll pay more somewhere else
Happy New Year! 🎉 & thank you, I'll send an email 😊
Congrats!!