OMG - the number of times you had to say "I should not have to point this out"... Fortunately I have avoided the more obvious mistakes in my very simple rigging, but I did have a model fall while tied due to lack of foresight. A thought beyond what you said: I think it is very important to realize that a bondage shoot and a bondage or BDSM session are two very different things! A detail I learned from both you and Rachel Adams: just as you need safety scissors for rope, you need a plan for metal such as handcuffs and locks. Extra keys, bolt cutters, whatever. -- ggreyphoto
Oh thank you so much, tha'ts much appreciated, and agreed. It's quite uncomfortable when people can't see the difference between a shoot and a session.
Excellent video, Ariel, and I'm glad you made it. I think everyone should take these points to heart. I get to hear stories from my friends who've had to deal with a few of these things.
thx, interesting points, for me as new model and also as photographer. i especially liked the tip with the mobile to call for help in case tied and photographer/rigger accidentally disabled. a scenario which needs more thought and consideration
It's important to also remember that everyone's body is different. Rope placement on one person will not always be the same on another. I've had this discussion with so many producers and riggers. Most are very happy to know rope placement as if it's in the proper place for me I can stay in it much much longer and they will get more footage to work with. I've learned that producers that get belligerent about this are not ones I wish to work with
I actually rated myself and I did pretty well. I do need to update my scissors that I bring to the set. They are safety scissors, but they're a bit old. And as a precaution, I carry two sets of scissors to shoots in most cases. One thing I would add to point #2 is when asking about past injures, also ask about any medical concerns. Knowing about any circulation problems, respiratory problems etc. in advance is a big plus. Additionally, I ask models about any allergies they might have in advance of shoots, so that I don't end up using something that might cause a reaction. Moraxian
It's interesting that many, if not all of these 13 points you made could simply come down to common sense, communication and planning. Also interestingly, having worked within the Health and Safety industry and having done formal training and earned qualifications on the subject, what you talked about is essentially just Health and Safety 101. I'm not especially well versed in the art and activities of BDSM - certainly not compared to models and producers - but even so, what I am well aware of are a few of the fundamental basics of BDSM: safety, communication and consent. Things like having safety scissors, ensuring all the lighting and photography equipment has been checked and is ready prior to tying a model up, asking about any pre-existing injuries, establishing safe words, knowing what you're shooting and how ahead of time (to one extent or another via pre-shoot communication), having all your focus on the model rather than on camera equipment until the shoot is finished and the model has been safely untied and so on should be a given. Mitigating and planning for worst case scenarios - regardless of how unlikely they are - is an excellent point and is often overlooked. Like you said, producers and photographers in their role as an employer have a professional duty of care toward their model employees, and regardless of that I'd hope that by being in the BDSM community, understanding what BDSM entails, is about, how it should be done and hopefully being nice and caring people, they'd be aware of the most important aspects of BDSM before partaking in such activities in the first place and adopt a personal duty of care too. When you're taking someone else's health and safety into your own hands then you should do all that you can to ensure that that person is and will be safe. There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism because it provides us with a clear idea of what we can do better and, especially within the context of BDSM, how to do things safer. And doing things better and safer is something that I think all people in all walks of life would want, but especially so BDSM riggers and producers and BDSM models.
Thank you so much; I wanna talk more to you about Health and Safety cos I don't know much about how it works in other industries and I'm sure there's stuff the bondage industry could learn!
Some of these things are so glaringly obvious to me that it makes me think camera shops should have some sort of exam people have to pass before making a purchase.
I've only done a couple of very mild bondage shoots as a photographer. Personally I'm always incredibly cautious about any contact with the model no matter what type of shoot. I ask first, tell them what i'm going to do and get approval before doing it. I hadn't previously considered the emergency call if the tog has a problem but will incorporate that into shoots....esp as I have a heart issue!
Oh my word, I thought i’d heard about pretty much every horror story there is, especially the one about the producer using a bread knife, but suspending someone from a light fitting?!? Are they insane!!! Good grief... 🙄
Bondage producers should come back in their next life as models in order to experience what models go through during a production session. Those guilty of injuring the models have racked up some seriously bad karma and might never be allowed to produce again no matter how much they want to. But in the future models could be replaced by androids so there would be no fear of injuring anyone but android bondage seems pointless since we know that androids do not feel pain or experience fear other than mimick it for the audience.
Thank you for this guide! It also has valuable points just for non-modeling BDSM, so I've shared it with anyone who does anything of the sort :) Most of the folks, I *think*, will be saying *YES!* to most of the points...but the whole 'get the equipment ready FIRST' bit is one that I feel will really cause some folks to first say "OH!', then likely curse at themselves a bit for not thinking of it themselves ;)
Great video! I rated myself well, except for the issue with scissors. I have not had an issue with regular scissors, but you made a good point (no pun intended) and I bought some safety scissors from a local pharmacy for such purpose. I would also like to expand upon your point about injuries. With models that I have never worked with before, I ask about not only injuries but other health issues such as allergies to certain materials or to pets ( I have a cat). Also, since I do bondage, I also ask if the model has asthma or anything else related to breathing for gagging provided she allowed me to gag her at all.
Nice video. Seems common sense, but as you say, when excitement is on, common sense might be off. Your subject got me thinking... How would a "top N bad things that models do on shoots" look like? I draw experience from a quite short stint as a producer, but even so I'm surprised how much I've noticed. When I stopped producing, the hardest thing to do was to say 'no' to models that wanted to shoot with me. Some of them were easier than others, because I had a mental list of those I never wanted to work with again. Some of the bad things they did were egregious, as in common sense should have told them not to do it. Other things that some did were subtle,.oh so subtle that they have no clue they did them, and ruined their chance of ever working with me again.
Seems like most of the problems you mentioned were caused by pervs who were getting a rise out the violation: leaving you tied up, saying they were going to not untie you, playing with a knife without permission, etc. After the shoot, did you tell them to F off and never call you again?
God, listening to you it seems to me that there are so many people (men?) out there who do not see bondage as a play with fantastic role-play scenarios to be played out, but as a tool of real life control and power, a bit like those people who keep pets in order to dominate them, shout at them and mistreat them.
I've heard some horror stories where a model was injured ( some requiring hospitalisation ) by a careless, unthinking or sadistic rigger and I'm sorry you've had some creepy experiences with people who obviously didn't respect you.
With all due respect sir, displaying what is presumably her full name is basically doxxing. It may be possible to find it online somewhere, but distributing it to anyone who reads a comment section should be a decision made by her, not someone else.
OMG - the number of times you had to say "I should not have to point this out"... Fortunately I have avoided the more obvious mistakes in my very simple rigging, but I did have a model fall while tied due to lack of foresight. A thought beyond what you said: I think it is very important to realize that a bondage shoot and a bondage or BDSM session are two very different things! A detail I learned from both you and Rachel Adams: just as you need safety scissors for rope, you need a plan for metal such as handcuffs and locks. Extra keys, bolt cutters, whatever. -- ggreyphoto
Oh thank you so much, tha'ts much appreciated, and agreed. It's quite uncomfortable when people can't see the difference between a shoot and a session.
Excellent video, Ariel, and I'm glad you made it. I think everyone should take these points to heart. I get to hear stories from my friends who've had to deal with a few of these things.
Thank you!
thx, interesting points, for me as new model and also as photographer. i especially liked the tip with the mobile to call for help in case tied and photographer/rigger accidentally disabled. a scenario which needs more thought and consideration
Thank you! I'm very grateful for that innovation!
It's important to also remember that everyone's body is different. Rope placement on one person will not always be the same on another. I've had this discussion with so many producers and riggers. Most are very happy to know rope placement as if it's in the proper place for me I can stay in it much much longer and they will get more footage to work with. I've learned that producers that get belligerent about this are not ones I wish to work with
Great tips and enlightenment for producers, riggers, photographers and models too. Some of them are OMG but totally understand that they happen!
I actually rated myself and I did pretty well. I do need to update my scissors that I bring to the set. They are safety scissors, but they're a bit old. And as a precaution, I carry two sets of scissors to shoots in most cases.
One thing I would add to point #2 is when asking about past injures, also ask about any medical concerns. Knowing about any circulation problems, respiratory problems etc. in advance is a big plus. Additionally, I ask models about any allergies they might have in advance of shoots, so that I don't end up using something that might cause a reaction.
Moraxian
It's interesting that many, if not all of these 13 points you made could simply come down to common sense, communication and planning. Also interestingly, having worked within the Health and Safety industry and having done formal training and earned qualifications on the subject, what you talked about is essentially just Health and Safety 101. I'm not especially well versed in the art and activities of BDSM - certainly not compared to models and producers - but even so, what I am well aware of are a few of the fundamental basics of BDSM: safety, communication and consent. Things like having safety scissors, ensuring all the lighting and photography equipment has been checked and is ready prior to tying a model up, asking about any pre-existing injuries, establishing safe words, knowing what you're shooting and how ahead of time (to one extent or another via pre-shoot communication), having all your focus on the model rather than on camera equipment until the shoot is finished and the model has been safely untied and so on should be a given. Mitigating and planning for worst case scenarios - regardless of how unlikely they are - is an excellent point and is often overlooked. Like you said, producers and photographers in their role as an employer have a professional duty of care toward their model employees, and regardless of that I'd hope that by being in the BDSM community, understanding what BDSM entails, is about, how it should be done and hopefully being nice and caring people, they'd be aware of the most important aspects of BDSM before partaking in such activities in the first place and adopt a personal duty of care too. When you're taking someone else's health and safety into your own hands then you should do all that you can to ensure that that person is and will be safe. There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism because it provides us with a clear idea of what we can do better and, especially within the context of BDSM, how to do things safer. And doing things better and safer is something that I think all people in all walks of life would want, but especially so BDSM riggers and producers and BDSM models.
Thank you so much; I wanna talk more to you about Health and Safety cos I don't know much about how it works in other industries and I'm sure there's stuff the bondage industry could learn!
Some of these things are so glaringly obvious to me that it makes me think camera shops should have some sort of exam people have to pass before making a purchase.
They do seem obvious don't they? I think people just get so excited that their ability to judge safety falls apart a bit.
I've only done a couple of very mild bondage shoots as a photographer. Personally I'm always incredibly cautious about any contact with the model no matter what type of shoot. I ask first, tell them what i'm going to do and get approval before doing it. I hadn't previously considered the emergency call if the tog has a problem but will incorporate that into shoots....esp as I have a heart issue!
Oh my word, I thought i’d heard about pretty much every horror story there is, especially the one about the producer using a bread knife, but suspending someone from a light fitting?!? Are they insane!!! Good grief... 🙄
Bondage producers should come back in their next life as models in order to experience what models go through during a production session. Those guilty of injuring the models have racked up some seriously bad karma and might never be allowed to produce again no matter how much they want to. But in the future models could be replaced by androids so there would be no fear of injuring anyone but android bondage seems pointless since we know that androids do not feel pain or experience fear other than mimick it for the audience.
Thank you for this guide! It also has valuable points just for non-modeling BDSM, so I've shared it with anyone who does anything of the sort :) Most of the folks, I *think*, will be saying *YES!* to most of the points...but the whole 'get the equipment ready FIRST' bit is one that I feel will really cause some folks to first say "OH!', then likely curse at themselves a bit for not thinking of it themselves ;)
Thank you so much, that's greatly appreciated.
Great video! I rated myself well, except for the issue with scissors. I have not had an issue with regular scissors, but you made a good point (no pun intended) and I bought some safety scissors from a local pharmacy for such purpose.
I would also like to expand upon your point about injuries. With models that I have never worked with before, I ask about not only injuries but other health issues such as allergies to certain materials or to pets ( I have a cat). Also, since I do bondage, I also ask if the model has asthma or anything else related to breathing for gagging provided she allowed me to gag her at all.
Nice video. Seems common sense, but as you say, when excitement is on, common sense might be off.
Your subject got me thinking... How would a "top N bad things that models do on shoots" look like? I draw experience from a quite short stint as a producer, but even so I'm surprised how much I've noticed. When I stopped producing, the hardest thing to do was to say 'no' to models that wanted to shoot with me. Some of them were easier than others, because I had a mental list of those I never wanted to work with again. Some of the bad things they did were egregious, as in common sense should have told them not to do it. Other things that some did were subtle,.oh so subtle that they have no clue they did them, and ruined their chance of ever working with me again.
Seems like most of the problems you mentioned were caused by pervs who were getting a rise out the violation: leaving you tied up, saying they were going to not untie you, playing with a knife without permission, etc. After the shoot, did you tell them to F off and never call you again?
God, listening to you it seems to me that there are so many people (men?) out there who do not see bondage as a play with fantastic role-play scenarios to be played out, but as a tool of real life control and power, a bit like those people who keep pets in order to dominate them, shout at them and mistreat them.
Really interesting and informative. Thank you for sharing!
Also, avoid pulling ropes quickly through fixed points (loops, etc.) as it can cause rope burn.
Every point was beyond amazing.
Extra scissors, More than a quick test of lights and gear are the tips I picked up.
Thank you. This was very informative!
I've heard some horror stories where a model was injured ( some requiring hospitalisation ) by a careless, unthinking or sadistic rigger and I'm sorry you've had some creepy experiences with people who obviously didn't respect you.
So sweet, smart and polite Lady
Great as usual! 😄
Thanks 🙏 for posting
Yeah but one has to have a huge budget and a director film crew and a public advertisement and a whole variety of legal jurisdictional paperwork.
Safe word probably shouldn't be "harder or "more"
Always untie the feet/legs FIRST for stappado.
What's what's so funny when you say with the way they looked?
I'm sorry, what? I don't understand what your comment means.
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With all due respect sir, displaying what is presumably her full name is basically doxxing. It may be possible to find it online somewhere, but distributing it to anyone who reads a comment section should be a decision made by her, not someone else.
@@jinxbeecee I agree, very poor form indeed on Jerry's part
@@jinxbeecee Thank you. Honestly Jerry, I would really appreciate it if you stopped doing that!
Why did you have to use her full name? For what purpose? Very disrespectful.