There a also airfields/ gliding clubs which allow you to start at 13 and fly your first solo flight at 14. Just ask your local airfield, maybe you can start earlier.
Excellent video Stefan. I could actually feel the anticipatory tightness in my chest that was always my experience in final glide. I was also reminded of a pleasure XC with DJ wondering what were the subtle inputs he was making, the results of which made me feel like my airbrakes were deployed. Thanks again for a most enjoyable and informative video. What a great sport! Hals und bein bruch!🍀🙏🎄
Nice! What was your altitude from the minimum altitude? Could you ga faster just by flying faster and ending a bit lower? Any chance to catch up with the other pilot? Or is he flying faster because of a better line? A line with better thermals?
Very informative video and commentary on decision-making for racing final glide. So did you arrive above altitude? Is it better to take extra time to climb or take the altitude penalty hit..
@@SteFly sure! Speed is THE goal, I intended to reflect the fact that with the appropiate configuration for Xcsoar, and a bit of luck, arriving at 10/20 meters means you did achieve the very last challenge of the task. Nice video BTW, congrats!
Love your videos! Keep on posting! I just wondered why there arent any v-tail gliders in competitions. arent they more efficient than classic t-tails ? At least in the world of rc gliders they are :D
You don’t get as good rudder authority in a V-Tail plus you have two surfaces that are working perpendicular to each other to create a lateral force so that’s got to be less efficient. I have heard that they are more efficient in RC gliders but I think that’s just because you have less overall surface and less complication, fittings etc. All stuff that adds drag. So in a straight line a V-tail is probably more efficient. You do have your rudder pretty straight in a thermal but you pull quite a lot of elevator and a V-Tail would be less efficient doing that. Back to my earlier point about fittings etc, it’s a lot easier to create less relative drag in a full size aircraft so things don’t have to be simplified to the same degree to reduce drag. Horns, screws, mounts etc are all internal or easily made flush which you can’t do so easily with an RC model. In fact, I would debate if V-Tails are more efficient, it’s probably cheaper to have a more efficient V-Tail but with the right moulding and engineering I would expect a conventional tail or T tail to always be more efficient, at least when controls come into effect.
Yes, they are. And will be better in full scale too, epecially in straight flight. But there is problem when you will land in terrain. T-tail is more durable and more resistant angainst damage by grass, trees atc. V tail is lighter too for manufacturing.
Thanks for your great content, Stefan. 👍 I’m not sure why you need the Nano logger if your phone already has GPS and barometer? Is the Nano just more accurate than the phone and therefore competition approved? If you are non-competition pilot, is it ok to just use a phone with GPS and barometer?
Thanks Johan 👍 The phone is not an approved logger for the competition. Perhaps the Nano is a little bit more accurate, but to know the height and position which is recorded, is the key. When you don't fly competitions, the phone is enough. 👍
@@SteFly Thank you for your prompt reply, Stefan. 😀 I need a new phone and want to get into gliding, so this is very important information for me. Samsung Galaxy S20 is a bit too expensive for me so I’m looking at (older model) Samsung Galaxy S7.
An sich lohnt es sich meiner Ansicht nach (wenn nicht anders in den Regeln festgelegt), dass man erst zu tief ist und dann auf die Finish altitude raus zieht, oder?
@@glidingpassiongermany407 Im Condor Flugsimulator scheint mir das auch sehr Sinnvoll. In echt würde ich allerdings dabei eine gewisse Sicherheitszusatzhöhe verwenden. Es wäre doch schade, einen guten Wertungsflug zu verschenken, nur weil man nur weniger Höhe rausziehen konnte, als gedacht. Je nachdem, ob das PDA mit dem Logger verbunden ist, und wie gut die Höhenbestimmung funktioniert musst du mehr oder weniger Sicherheitshöhe mit einbeziehen. FLARM verwendet z.B. immer 1013,25 hPa für die Höhenbestimmung. Das bedeutet, die geloggerte Höhe kann stark von der Anzeige auf dem Höhenmesser abweichen!
Der Einflug in den Zielkreis ist bei Minute 12:30 zu sehen. Laut Regelwerk ist es nicht zulässig vor dem Zielkreis tiefer zu sein und dann nach oben zu ziehen. Das ist ultra gefährlich. In normalen FAI Wettbewerben habe ich noch nicht gesehen, dass das automatisch ausgewertet wird. Beim Grand Prix Wettbewerb gibt es eine sehr harte Regel die besagt, dass man ab dem Pflichtwendepunk nicht mehr unter die Höhe der Ziellinie kommen darf. Jeder Meter wird mit Strafsekunden bestraft.
@@pilot_Julius30 Auf welches QNH der Logger eingestellt ist, spielt keine große Rolle. Es wird eine Referenzhöhe aus der IGC Datei von vor dem Start ermittelt. Wichtig ist der Höhenunterschied zwischen dieser Referenzhöhe und der Zielkreishöhe.
MC Zero does only tell you in perfect conditions without thermals, that you will arrive. If you add safety alt, there is no compensation for the distance. So if you are 30 km far away from the target with MC0 and 200 m safety alt, most probably it won't work (only if you have a good energy line). If you are 5 km far away with safety alt of 200 m, most probably you will make it. If you use safety MC, this compensation will be done automatically. That's how I do it and it works good for me. The most important point is that you have experience with the settings you use 😉
@@SteFly I run my lx at zero and my kids at what ever mc I want to calculate safety. But the mc zero I use to speed up, slow down to maximize my speed to finish alt. Typically where I fly, colorado we come home when there's no energy in the air from 80 plus miles out. Zero mc nails it every time. If my arrival altitude is low I just slow up untill I gain it back. Ask kawa. Bet he does this. Also nice to see the LS3 chasing the Diana. My best flights of my life have been in a 3 and a 20 against big ventus fliers. Happy soaring. Come to colorado sometime. Most challenging flying in the world.
@@tztz1949 Bill, how do you gain on glide by slowing up from MC0 (unless you are flying with a strong tailwaind)? In his book SK says he wants to be get to MC 4kts for safety.
@@johngalloway156 . By either speeding up past best glide or slowing down to best glide you adjust your arrival height in real time at mc zero. If conditions change you see it immediately and can adjust your speed accordingly. I run one device at mc 0 and one at mc 2 or so for safety margin awareness. This way you optimize your speed for fastest possible arrival. This is best done in dead air when little or no energy is left in the sky to find unusual sink.
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Diana 2. Timeless Polish construction of a performance glider.
enjoyed this . Thank you
Merry Christmas fellow glider pilots
Thank you! Merry Christmas Tommy :-)
You are now, Stefan, two times world champion, time flies!
Considering to join flying club. Not so young (41) but better now than newer. I had several schnupperflüge..and I love it. Best Regards fron Nürnberg.
I'll begin soaring when i turn 14 in 8 months, cant wait!
There a also airfields/ gliding clubs which allow you to start at 13 and fly your first solo flight at 14. Just ask your local airfield, maybe you can start earlier.
@@Gega_Zautashvili. Yeah i considered that, but right now it is a money problem. I am waiting for my confirmation, so i hopefully can begin flying :)
@@antonwestergaard5211 good luck!
Excellent video Stefan. I could actually feel the anticipatory tightness in my chest that was always my experience in final glide. I was also reminded of a pleasure XC with DJ wondering what were the subtle inputs he was making, the results of which made me feel like my airbrakes were deployed. Thanks again for a most enjoyable and informative video. What a great sport! Hals und bein bruch!🍀🙏🎄
Mit den zoom ins nochmal besser als davor eh schon👌🏽🚀
Great video, thank you Stefan😁 its great to fly with you👍🏻
These Condor graphics are great!
Stefan mentioned in the video it was SeeYou 😉. I agree, nice addition to visualise the race.
I agree. Condor must have a beta update I don’t know about for it to look so realistic.
Great video Stefan. You are not only expert pilot but fantastic instructor too. Thank you for your work. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Great video! I am not able to fly right now, but it is still great to watch some videos and learn something!
Great video as always, Thanks Stefan!
Vielen Dank zum posting. US pilot who is constantly trying to learn. More on XC Soar would be nice. Frohe Weinachten.
Wow that was impressive! In just a final glide you both showed how talented you are! Frohe Weihnachten 🎄!!!
Nice analysis as always
Merry Christmas, Stefan! Very informative how you planned the final glide!
Nice video Stefan. Sebastian Kawa is the best! All the best from Poland😉
A very useful lesson, thank you !
Great analysis, thank you!
Thanks Tim. Merry Christmas to you and your Family 😊
Love and peace from Bulgaria!
Thank you!
What, the World Cup Slalom Skier?????
Nice video Stefan, maybe you can make a video explaining details of how to use XC Soar and show us your set up?
Great video! Fun to watch and an informative learning tool. XCSoar is great!
Lovely video!
I really admire Sebastian as he is my country representant🔥 what smartphone are you using for your flight? Great video!
I´m using a Samsung S20 at the moment.
I am enjoying this
Nice! What was your altitude from the minimum altitude? Could you ga faster just by flying faster and ending a bit lower? Any chance to catch up with the other pilot? Or is he flying faster because of a better line? A line with better thermals?
Thanks 😎👍
You tried best but Kawa + Diana made hard oponent duet.
Very informative video and commentary on decision-making for racing final glide. So did you arrive above altitude? Is it better to take extra time to climb or take the altitude penalty hit..
In the end it only matters your actual arrival altitude.
I have a similar setup, LX NANO+Samsung TAB2 (7 "screen)
At a competition the speed is also important ;)
@@SteFly sure! Speed is THE goal, I intended to reflect the fact that with the appropiate configuration for Xcsoar, and a bit of luck, arriving at 10/20 meters means you did achieve the very last challenge of the task.
Nice video BTW, congrats!
WORLD BEST CHAMPION 🏆 YOU'RE THE BEST❤ KEEP GOING WELL 🏅 BE SAFE 🛩️
What camera set=up was that Stefan? Great quality video.
Merry Christmas, Stefan. Shame you're not in Auckland this summer.
Thank you, wish you the same. 😊
Not very nice Christmas for GlideOmarama though. Hope ETNZ to nail it in March, all the best and enjoy it!
Love your videos! Keep on posting! I just wondered why there arent any v-tail gliders in competitions. arent they more efficient than classic t-tails ? At least in the world of rc gliders they are :D
You don’t get as good rudder authority in a V-Tail plus you have two surfaces that are working perpendicular to each other to create a lateral force so that’s got to be less efficient. I have heard that they are more efficient in RC gliders but I think that’s just because you have less overall surface and less complication, fittings etc. All stuff that adds drag. So in a straight line a V-tail is probably more efficient. You do have your rudder pretty straight in a thermal but you pull quite a lot of elevator and a V-Tail would be less efficient doing that. Back to my earlier point about fittings etc, it’s a lot easier to create less relative drag in a full size aircraft so things don’t have to be simplified to the same degree to reduce drag. Horns, screws, mounts etc are all internal or easily made flush which you can’t do so easily with an RC model.
In fact, I would debate if V-Tails are more efficient, it’s probably cheaper to have a more efficient V-Tail but with the right moulding and engineering I would expect a conventional tail or T tail to always be more efficient, at least when controls come into effect.
Yes, they are. And will be better in full scale too, epecially in straight flight. But there is problem when you will land in terrain. T-tail is more durable and more resistant angainst damage by grass, trees atc. V tail is lighter too for manufacturing.
What contest was it ? Did Kawa win 15m class ?
Thanks for your great content, Stefan. 👍
I’m not sure why you need the Nano logger if your phone already has GPS and barometer?
Is the Nano just more accurate than the phone and therefore competition approved?
If you are non-competition pilot, is it ok to just use a phone with GPS and barometer?
Thanks Johan 👍
The phone is not an approved logger for the competition. Perhaps the Nano is a little bit more accurate, but to know the height and position which is recorded, is the key.
When you don't fly competitions, the phone is enough. 👍
@@SteFly Thank you for your prompt reply, Stefan. 😀
I need a new phone and want to get into gliding, so this is very important information for me.
Samsung Galaxy S20 is a bit too expensive for me so I’m looking at (older model) Samsung Galaxy S7.
What app were you using on your phone?
Ich habe mal ne Frage bist du schon mal eine Ka6 geflogen?
Google says he is 50:1 and you are 40:1 LD so you did well to stay close!
50:1 is too optimistic. It is the marketing words. 46-47:1 may be actual.
And it depeds on the speed also. Sweet spot with max LD is around specific speed
Saya orang Indonesia senang menonton ini😁👍
Sebastian hatte einfach die besseren Nerven. Und sein Track ist irgendwie ruhiger....
I miss flying.
Haben die Piloten auch ihre Blase leeren müssen? :D Sind sie wirklich gleich schwer?
Könntest du mal ein Video über deine Einstellungen beim XC-Soar (auf Handy) machen? Grüsse
Das würde mich auch sehr interessieren. 👍
Ok. Where are you gliding.. in with country and what area ?
Very informative, thank you! What is the glide ratio difference between the LS3 and the Diana2 at that speed?
I don´t have any polars to compare both gliders. The max glide ratio of the LS3 is 41,8:1 and Diana 2 50:1 (source Wikipedia).
@@SteFly I see, so the other glider was gaining on you probably due to better performances, and not necessary better pilot skills.
@@leozerba Yes, especially that Kawa is serial winner. This is for sure not because of skills but rather luck 😜
Consider that filming a video takes away from having your brain working only on the task. We really do enjoy the video, though... ;^)
Stefan, What Android phone do you use? Can you see when you wear sunglasses?
Caz, I use the Samsung galaxy S20. It's ok but not great. Also It's getting really hot
Neues Video 😍🙃
So, did you score goal?
Ich hätte gerne gesehen, wie ihr in den Finish Zylinder einfliegt... zieht ihr noch viel Höhe davor raus oder fliegt ihr straight rein einfach?
An sich lohnt es sich meiner Ansicht nach (wenn nicht anders in den Regeln festgelegt), dass man erst zu tief ist und dann auf die Finish altitude raus zieht, oder?
@@glidingpassiongermany407 Im Condor Flugsimulator scheint mir das auch sehr Sinnvoll.
In echt würde ich allerdings dabei eine gewisse Sicherheitszusatzhöhe verwenden.
Es wäre doch schade, einen guten Wertungsflug zu verschenken, nur weil man nur weniger Höhe rausziehen konnte, als gedacht.
Je nachdem, ob das PDA mit dem Logger verbunden ist, und wie gut die Höhenbestimmung funktioniert musst du mehr oder weniger Sicherheitshöhe mit einbeziehen.
FLARM verwendet z.B. immer 1013,25 hPa für die Höhenbestimmung. Das bedeutet, die geloggerte Höhe kann stark von der Anzeige auf dem Höhenmesser abweichen!
Der Einflug in den Zielkreis ist bei Minute 12:30 zu sehen. Laut Regelwerk ist es nicht zulässig vor dem Zielkreis tiefer zu sein und dann nach oben zu ziehen. Das ist ultra gefährlich. In normalen FAI Wettbewerben habe ich noch nicht gesehen, dass das automatisch ausgewertet wird. Beim Grand Prix Wettbewerb gibt es eine sehr harte Regel die besagt, dass man ab dem Pflichtwendepunk nicht mehr unter die Höhe der Ziellinie kommen darf. Jeder Meter wird mit Strafsekunden bestraft.
@@pilot_Julius30 Auf welches QNH der Logger eingestellt ist, spielt keine große Rolle. Es wird eine Referenzhöhe aus der IGC Datei von vor dem Start ermittelt. Wichtig ist der Höhenunterschied zwischen dieser Referenzhöhe und der Zielkreishöhe.
What is the left Hand controlling? flaperon?
Correct 🤙🏼
On final glide fly MC Zero to know your trend/arrival alt. It shows where you will end up. Of course add safety alt if you need.
MC Zero does only tell you in perfect conditions without thermals, that you will arrive. If you add safety alt, there is no compensation for the distance. So if you are 30 km far away from the target with MC0 and 200 m safety alt, most probably it won't work (only if you have a good energy line). If you are 5 km far away with safety alt of 200 m, most probably you will make it. If you use safety MC, this compensation will be done automatically. That's how I do it and it works good for me. The most important point is that you have experience with the settings you use 😉
@@SteFly
I run my lx at zero and my kids at what ever mc I want to calculate safety. But the mc zero I use to speed up, slow down to maximize my speed to finish alt. Typically where I fly, colorado we come home when there's no energy in the air from 80 plus miles out. Zero mc nails it every time. If my arrival altitude is low I just slow up untill I gain it back. Ask kawa. Bet he does this. Also nice to see the LS3 chasing the Diana. My best flights of my life have been in a 3 and a 20 against big ventus fliers. Happy soaring.
Come to colorado sometime. Most challenging flying in the world.
@@tztz1949 Bill, how do you gain on glide by slowing up from MC0 (unless you are flying with a strong tailwaind)? In his book SK says he wants to be get to MC 4kts for safety.
@@johngalloway156 . By either speeding up past best glide or slowing down to best glide you adjust your arrival height in real time at mc zero. If conditions change you see it immediately and can adjust your speed accordingly. I run one device at mc 0 and one at mc 2 or so for safety margin awareness. This way you optimize your speed for fastest possible arrival. This is best done in dead air when little or no energy is left in the sky to find unusual sink.
Gibt es schon Pläne mit der 5C? :)
Hab eine BT gekauft ;)
Verständlich. Die 5C stand ca. 10 Jahre im Hänger bevor Uwe sie gekauft hat.
Wie lange fliegst du schon ?🙃
Seit 13 Jahren... so langsam werde ich alt 😂
@@SteFly ach Quatsch 🙈😂
His name was pronounced Macreedy rather than Macreddy.
LS Drei, Didn't the Germans call it LS Blei?
Fiiiiiirst😂😂😍
Du durftest doch schon die Vorprämiere sehen ☺
Stefan Langer das sind wohl die exclusive insights 😌
Vielleicht sollte ich das mal mit Patreon probieren 🤔
Ist auch eine Überlegung wert. Ich hab keine Ahnung ob das jemand machen würde?
@@chad9331 Ich finde, Stefan Langer ist einer der besten Segelflugvertreter in den sozialen Medien kann dadurch viele Menschen auf unseren Sport aufmerksam machen und hat daher eine werbetreibende und nachwuchsbringende Rolle.
Durch "Premiumvideos" für Kanalmitglieder/Patreonunterstützer würde diese Rolle eingeschränkt werden.
Vielleicht wäre es sinnvoller, SteFly-Fanartikel auf deiner Webseite zu verkaufen.
(z.B. SteFly Fliegerhüte und Basecaps)