I just finished Jim Bakker & Tammy Faye Messner’s autobiographies. I recommend reading them! My eyes were opened to what really happened! No one knows how much pain and heartache two people go through. Wish we all could go back and relive the ‘glory’ days.
Tammy is precious, so kind to a little girl who wants to join the show. And such a beautiful voice & song. She's walking in Heaven now & I hope to see her soon.
I love and miss this era so much! I miss the class, style of dress, and authenticity of Christian television. Ladies dressed in nice formal business attire as did the Gentleman. Tammy Faye was the heart and soul of PTL. 😊
After spending over two thirds of my life growing up in church, working behind the scenes, singing and performing, I must say that this is truly the best Christmas show I have ever seen. I don't care what anybody says, Tammy Faye is the sweetest and kindest person I've ever seen in my life. A light definitely went out when she passed.
Txboy85A So true. I worked for TBN for 15 years. Plus I knew Tammy Faye personally. She was one of the ONLY ministers who TRULY LOVED everybody. Unconditionally. And especially, she love and reached out to the gays, and that’s something ministers don’t even do today! She was one in a BILLION. I laugh when I see people attack her because they are so ignorant and just plain wrong. Lol. Bless them anyway!
Txboy85A I agree. A beautiful Christmas program indeed. The music and choir were spectacular. I remember this when it aired. I was 23. Man does time fly. Their fall from grace reminds me of the slow fall of the liberal progressives today. Which I was one. They started out in the 60s with such good intentions. Today, seems most of them are blind to their deluded word speak, of anything goes. God forbid you question them. But, as with anything surrounding money and power. It eventually gets corrupted, and fails miserably, only to be relit by sparks, but never by fire again. Tammy was authentic, and an angel here on earth. She was a yes girl. Jim was definitely suffering from mental illness, and was ill prepared to run the empire they created. Tammy was a dutiful wife, who entrusted her goodness to the people who should have known better. She influenced and left her mark on so many of us. 🙏 RIP Tammy😘
@@mj6962 Ms. Vestal Goodman seemed pretty loving too. Her and Howard were pastors. They must have treated others there well too? I never met them but love their singing 🎵🎤🎵
@@larkatmic Since you decide to interject MISINFORMATION and NEGATIVE opinions about so-called Liberal Progressives, who SUPPORT HELPING THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.... Who stormed the Capitol carrying RACIST TREASONOUS Confederate and Nazi Flags?....Who GAVE TRILLIONS IN TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY AND CORPORATIONS?The treasonous republiKKKans lead by the racist, incompetent, 5 time draft dodging FAKE Patriot trump.
@@SC-uq2jf Trigerred much? Misery runs deep in the democrats today. Why? Your candidate won, no? They just can’t move on from their obsession with Orange man. 😂 But then Biden is everything the left progressive liberal ‘woke’ (now dope) ideology hates, right? White, male, heterosexual, proven racist, misogynist, Catholic, perverted feeling up young girls, corporatist who only answers vetted questions from the press and is bed with China. Enjoy your delusion. The left who voted for MaGoo with their tech oligarch and MSM overlords who control and tell them how to think refuse to admit that their blundering disaster is just as bad if not worse than Trump. 😂 You guys have a serious supremacy issue and the majority of Americans know it now. You’re cult does not know what’s best for Americans and is plain for everyone to see. Only onto your ‘group think’ selves think Americans actually back your failed policies. And remember ‘You’re not black if you don’t vote Biden’ 😂 Try to enjoy your weekend. But I know your lot just can’t enjoy life. There’s always a dark cloud hovering around you and a drum to bang. Too many self absorbed, childless, single spinsters. Like Eeyore’s who pray to their new religion of self, and ME, and salute separate flags. Segregation is your thing now. At least Eeyore was kind and accepted other points of views. Mental illness is real. We all suffer from it now and then. Seek help. Life is too short to be hung up on blame and hate. Its 2021 afterall.
This is so iconic because 1). Not long after this special PTL went downhill...fast...and 2.) You can still go inside this hotel and picture in your mind all that happened in the 80s. I'm glad this building is still standing and for this video uploaded so I can know how ICONIC PTL was in the 80s! :)
I remember my parents watching them when I was a kid and I totally remember thinking these are the cookiest people ever. Lol but I have to give up to Tammy Faye. She never changed, held on to her faith and was a very positive person that really loved people.
I can’t get over sweet little Adrienne who they allowed to stay onstage the entire show!! She’s so cute. I wonder where she is now, and I hope she’s happy.
This must have been a massive undertaking putting this show together on Christmas day in the lobby of the hotel. Just moving the grand pianos alone probably took a couple of days to set up. Not to mention all the work it would take for all the singers and orchestra to perform.
I remember Xmas 1986 the best Xmas of the entire 1980s. It is heartbreaking so many good people are gone and that Xmases will never have that feel of warmth again. Even 5 years ago I still felt great about the good times of the past but now it is somber to think how the warmth of those good days will never be felt again.
What the news never told you PTL gave such away. I remember a large ministry bus an so many expensive badly needed items. I do regret a single dollar I sent to PTL. I saw my money at work. I know that their productions cost millions. The Eighties were special years, God poured out His Holy Spirit on man so greatly. It was a great outpouring. I'm so glad I was young in those days and my spouse and I were both Christians during that wonderful shiinng time.
I am 62 years old. I wish I could type in public writing all I know to be the truth about Jim and Tammy . What I can say is that both of them made mistakes...but haven't we all? More disturbing to me was the other SO CALLED Christian Ministers that totally lied with intent to DESTROY Jim and Tammy And ripped them from their love and passion for people. I type these words from experience....I was involved with PTL-Heritage USA in a type of management. I visited often during my "career". These other so-called hypocrites of what they made people believe was the truth, are the reason I haven't attended church since this all happened. I know things about these 3 men that would devastate the Christians...even many, many years after this was over. This was a beautiful facility with beautiful leaders. (Jim and Tammy). I think of my years spent with them almost daily and weep still to this day. Tammy Faye rest in PEACE... you are very much missed! There will never-ever be another HERITAGE USA. I visited the site several years past, before any demolitions began. I stood for two hours and broken heartedly wept. Greed, lies, envy and money is what destroyed Jim, TAMMY & Heritage USA. My lifestyle has immensely changed....totally my business...so to the three that destroyed this great organization, you may have thought you could hide, but there are a few of us who know the real truth.
No one should let what happened at Heritage destroy their faith in God. There are still hypocrites, charlatans who profess to preach today & who still take $$ from everyone that is sucked into their lies. PTL stayed on message. Yes, Jim& Tammy had great salaries but they worked 7 days a week. People today make millions with those kind of jobs. You can't compare the 80's to 2023.
This RUclips entry is a taped broadcast of the PTL Club. PTL stands for “praise the Lord” and the show, picked up by a number of stations around the country, is hosted by Jim and Tammy Bakker. These Pentecostal evangelists, Jim preaching and his wife Tammy singing, get their broadcasting start with the 700 Club and then take advantage of opportunities in the South. The show is popular and the Bakkers are telegenic marketers with a Christian message of prosperity and happiness. Today’s show is broadcast from the Grand, a hotel in the fantasyland theme park devised by the Bakkers. The Bakkers are trying to raise money to keep the park and the network going. Some financial problems eventually develop and the park and network close down. Too bad.
I was really repulsed by their material gluttony. The thought of taking an old lady's heating oil money in order to gratify themselves in the name of the prosperity gospel was repugnant. But while I'm not a Christian, but I can see where they did a lot of good. Heritage Park, U.S.A. was something unique and wonderful. Falwell, Swaggart, and their ilk thrived on their demise, while leaving absolutely nothing of value.
Tammy always seemed uncomfortable with big spectacle shows. She dressed the part, but I think she would have been happier if the PTL was smaller, like it was back in the 70s before heritage square, and the stress of having to keep it up. It was obviously a huge financial burden.
She always seemed the most comfortable in a smaller studio setting. This is also towards the end of her ativan addiction. She would enter rehab in early 1987. That could be part of it, also.
Justin Case I’m not a music critic but I think the matter is more complicated. Great writing, particularly poetry but also great prose, has musicality. This is why poetry should be read aloud.
I just finished Jim Bakker & Tammy Faye Messner’s autobiographies. I recommend reading them! My eyes were opened to what really happened! No one knows how much pain and heartache two people go through. Wish we all could go back and relive the ‘glory’ days.
That creepy Preacher that took over PTL didn't do anything but keep the Heritage PTL $$$. I don't like preachers much.
I read both of Tammy Faye’s and they were incredible. Most people don’t know how much she suffered. 💕☦️🙏
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Jerry Falwell ?
I don't care what anyone says, Tammy was beautiful inside & out! I love you Tammy Faye
I miss Tammy!
Yes she was
Love you Tammy
Tammy is precious, so kind to a little girl who wants to join the show. And such a beautiful voice & song. She's walking in Heaven now & I hope to see her soon.
We will soon. Soon and very soon, we will see the King. 😊
Tammy Sue was (still is) gorgeous. Blessed with an incredible voice that’s angelic and sophisticated. Soulful. I love her voice and music.
She still looks the exact same 40 years later. Just a little older now. Saw her singing on Jim Bakker's current show a while back.
Oh my the music is magnificent. No one performed like PTL singers, orchestra, etc.
I love and miss this era so much! I miss the class, style of dress, and authenticity of Christian television. Ladies dressed in nice formal business attire as did the Gentleman. Tammy Faye was the heart and soul of PTL. 😊
After spending over two thirds of my life growing up in church, working behind the scenes, singing and performing, I must say that this is truly the best Christmas show I have ever seen.
I don't care what anybody says, Tammy Faye is the sweetest and kindest person I've ever seen in my life. A light definitely went out when she passed.
Txboy85A So true. I worked for TBN for 15 years. Plus I knew Tammy Faye personally. She was one of the ONLY ministers who TRULY LOVED everybody. Unconditionally. And especially, she love and reached out to the gays, and that’s something ministers don’t even do today! She was one in a BILLION. I laugh when I see people attack her because they are so ignorant and just plain wrong. Lol. Bless them anyway!
Txboy85A I agree. A beautiful Christmas program indeed. The music and choir were spectacular. I remember this when it aired. I was 23. Man does time fly. Their fall from grace reminds me of the slow fall of the liberal progressives today. Which I was one. They started out in the 60s with such good intentions. Today, seems most of them are blind to their deluded word speak, of anything goes. God forbid you question them. But, as with anything surrounding money and power. It eventually gets corrupted, and fails miserably, only to be relit by sparks, but never by fire again. Tammy was authentic, and an angel here on earth. She was a yes girl. Jim was definitely suffering from mental illness, and was ill prepared to run the empire they created. Tammy was a dutiful wife, who entrusted her goodness to the people who should have known better. She influenced and left her mark on so many of us. 🙏 RIP Tammy😘
@@mj6962 Ms. Vestal Goodman seemed pretty loving too. Her and Howard were pastors. They must have treated others there well too? I never met them but love their singing 🎵🎤🎵
@@larkatmic Since you decide to interject MISINFORMATION and NEGATIVE opinions about so-called Liberal Progressives, who SUPPORT HELPING THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.... Who stormed the Capitol carrying RACIST TREASONOUS Confederate and Nazi Flags?....Who GAVE TRILLIONS IN TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY AND CORPORATIONS?The treasonous republiKKKans lead by the racist, incompetent, 5 time draft dodging FAKE Patriot trump.
@@SC-uq2jf Trigerred much? Misery runs deep in the democrats today. Why? Your candidate won, no? They just can’t move on from their obsession with Orange man. 😂 But then Biden is everything the left progressive liberal ‘woke’ (now dope) ideology hates, right? White, male, heterosexual, proven racist, misogynist, Catholic, perverted feeling up young girls, corporatist who only answers vetted questions from the press and is bed with China. Enjoy your delusion. The left who voted for MaGoo with their tech oligarch and MSM overlords who control and tell them how to think refuse to admit that their blundering disaster is just as bad if not worse than Trump. 😂 You guys have a serious supremacy issue and the majority of Americans know it now. You’re cult does not know what’s best for Americans and is plain for everyone to see. Only onto your ‘group think’ selves think Americans actually back your failed policies. And remember ‘You’re not black if you don’t vote Biden’ 😂 Try to enjoy your weekend. But I know your lot just can’t enjoy life. There’s always a dark cloud hovering around you and a drum to bang. Too many self absorbed, childless, single spinsters. Like Eeyore’s who pray to their new religion of self, and ME, and salute separate flags. Segregation is your thing now. At least Eeyore was kind and accepted other points of views. Mental illness is real. We all suffer from it now and then. Seek help. Life is too short to be hung up on blame and hate. Its 2021 afterall.
Thank you for posting this. It's wonderful.
Tammy sang beautifully!!!
This is so iconic because 1). Not long after this special PTL went downhill...fast...and 2.) You can still go inside this hotel and picture in your mind all that happened in the 80s. I'm glad this building is still standing and for this video uploaded so I can know how ICONIC PTL was in the 80s! :)
I remember my parents watching them when I was a kid and I totally remember thinking these are the cookiest people ever. Lol but I have to give up to Tammy Faye. She never changed, held on to her faith and was a very positive person that really loved people.
I remember I wasn't even religious, but I liked watching Tammy. She was uplifting and fun.
I can’t get over sweet little Adrienne who they allowed to stay onstage the entire show!! She’s so cute. I wonder where she is now, and I hope she’s happy.
This must have been a massive undertaking putting this show together on Christmas day in the lobby of the hotel. Just moving the grand pianos alone probably took a couple of days to set up. Not to mention all the work it would take for all the singers and orchestra to perform.
I love Tammy Faye. So happy she is with Jesus.
I remember Xmas 1986 the best Xmas of the entire 1980s. It is heartbreaking so many good people are gone and that Xmases will never have that feel of warmth again. Even 5 years ago I still felt great about the good times of the past but now it is somber to think how the warmth of those good days will never be felt again.
Davin Gladwell is go back in a second. The older I get the more I miss that time. It was special. We were blessed to live it.
What the news never told you PTL gave such away. I remember a large ministry bus an so many expensive badly needed items. I do regret a single dollar I sent to PTL. I saw my money at work. I know that their productions cost millions. The Eighties were special years, God poured out His Holy Spirit on man so greatly. It was a great outpouring. I'm so glad I was young in those days and my spouse and I were both Christians during that wonderful shiinng time.
Lol
i grow up looking at PTL I love Jim and Tammy
Thanks for posting loved it
I am 62 years old. I wish I could type in public writing all I know to be the truth about Jim and Tammy . What I can say is that both of them made mistakes...but haven't we all? More disturbing to me was the other SO CALLED Christian Ministers that totally lied with intent to DESTROY Jim and Tammy And ripped them from their love and passion for people. I type these words from experience....I was involved with PTL-Heritage USA in a type of management. I visited often during my "career". These other so-called hypocrites of what they made people believe was the truth, are the reason I haven't attended church since this all happened. I know things about these 3 men that would devastate the Christians...even many, many years after this was over. This was a beautiful facility with beautiful leaders. (Jim and Tammy). I think of my years spent with them almost daily and weep still to this day. Tammy Faye rest in PEACE... you are very much missed! There will never-ever be another HERITAGE USA. I visited the site several years past, before any demolitions began. I stood for two hours and broken heartedly wept. Greed, lies, envy and money is what destroyed Jim, TAMMY & Heritage USA. My lifestyle has immensely changed....totally my business...so to the three that destroyed this great organization, you may have thought you could hide, but there are a few of us who know the real truth.
Mark Sullivan John Wesley Fletcher.
Got to include Falwell
@@fairfaxcat1312 - The Taggart brothers.
No one should let what happened at Heritage destroy their faith in God. There are still hypocrites, charlatans who profess to preach today & who still take $$ from everyone that is sucked into their lies. PTL stayed on message. Yes, Jim& Tammy had great salaries but they worked 7 days a week. People today make millions with those kind of jobs. You can't compare the 80's to 2023.
Falwell was a snake in the grass. He accused Jim Bakker of being gay every chance he got in those days with no real evidence other than hearsay.
The last Christmas before the house if cards collapsed
21:37 to 21:55 beautiful singing and music. 22:31 kids were still healthy and cute in 1986
Lol 3:19 would beg to differ
All the ladies were dressed so feminine with their dresses they look so beautiful just like the king JESUSCHRIST daughters awesome . Amen
Lots of love for Tammy. How about Jim?
They produced some wonderful programs. They were such a cute couple. Jim and his second wife are a handsome couple two.
20:16 is a better shot of my face, right side of the pigtail lol.
Iamgodof Humancollective cutie!
This had to be not to far from their fall.
17:35, I see myself when I was 5....
Don't think this was 1986, personel are missing, including me!
20:50 to 21:02 realy nice singing.
20:45 LOL
This RUclips entry is a taped broadcast of the PTL Club. PTL stands for “praise the Lord” and the show, picked up by a number of stations around the country, is hosted by Jim and Tammy Bakker. These Pentecostal evangelists, Jim preaching and his wife Tammy singing, get their broadcasting start with the 700 Club and then take advantage of opportunities in the South. The show is popular and the Bakkers are telegenic marketers with a Christian message of prosperity and happiness. Today’s show is broadcast from the Grand, a hotel in the fantasyland theme park devised by the Bakkers. The Bakkers are trying to raise money to keep the park and the network going. Some financial problems eventually develop and the park and network close down. Too bad.
Find it very sad. Hope they were forgiven for mistakes. Many problems behind scenes. Only God knows truth.
I was really repulsed by their material gluttony. The thought of taking an old lady's heating oil money in order to gratify themselves in the name of the prosperity gospel was repugnant. But while I'm not a Christian, but I can see where they did a lot of good. Heritage Park, U.S.A. was something unique and wonderful. Falwell, Swaggart, and their ilk thrived on their demise, while leaving absolutely nothing of value.
26:06 blond kid in lower right corner of screen I wonder where he is now. Beautiful show here.
I love Tammy Faye, but she looks very uncomfortable in this PTL episode.
Tammy always seemed uncomfortable with big spectacle shows. She dressed the part, but I think she would have been happier if the PTL was smaller, like it was back in the 70s before heritage square, and the stress of having to keep it up. It was obviously a huge financial burden.
She always seemed the most comfortable in a smaller studio setting. This is also towards the end of her ativan addiction. She would enter rehab in early 1987. That could be part of it, also.
I never did care for Doug Oldham's singing. When you speak half the lyrics of a song, that's not singing that's talking.
L Jones It is talk singing. He has a wonderful deep and powerful voice.
Justin Case I’m not a music critic but I think the matter is more complicated. Great writing, particularly poetry but also great prose, has musicality. This is why poetry should be read aloud.
It's Christmas Time again too long and repetitious.