Much more coming on this bike in the next 60 days. It will be a sweepstakes bike for June 2023, so I've gotta pound out a bunch of rides on it. Seems like it's going to be really well suited for slower more technical terrain with the motor and geometry, but the forks and shock are set up to go faster.... kinda strange, but this is pretty typical on bikes from what I've seen.
Hey, watching the footage the cock pit does look small but it also looked like you were not hinged at the hips enough. I love your videos and what you do, I’m not here to criticize I’m just pointing out what I see. Maybe because it’s a new bike to you and you had not ridden in a while when this was filmed. It almost looked like your knees were in front of your toes when standing most of the time.
Have you ever done the Virginia city grand prix ? It was super rocky this year... its a very challenging race. This year it was a 21 mile per lap 4 hour race
The TM does have a "rear end high" feeling. Remember your AJ Catanzaro training... knees never forward of the pegs. Don't take that the wrong way, I know you're a very good rider and like you said it's been a couple months since you've been able to ride. But that "over the front wheel" feeling will probably go away if you move your hips and knees back. Very excited for your long term review on the bike
Yeah... You're not wrong. Easy to talk about... hard to do in real world terrain though... especially when bouncing all over the trail with stiff suspension.
@@DirtBikeChannel No argument there! For what it's worth, I set my sag to 104mm. From what I hear, most people set it around 105mm-108mm on these bikes.
Im Loving the TM content. 'I've been waiting for this . I bought a 2021 TM 300 2 years ago from BGR moto , Brian Geddis was awesome and really helped me dial it in. I believe he is in your area or there abouts. a great resource if your looking for insight to really see the TM shine. I live in Mass. so i had it shipped. I have no regrets the course i took to purchase a TM! Ride on Man...
I finally rode my 2023 tm300en this last weekend and damn!!! It is an animal, runs incredibly crisp and clean Very comfortable bike My two brothers ( ktm guys ) instantly fell in love with it
@Dirt Bike Channel I would love to feel cramped. I think im roughly 5'10 and 160 lbs, maybe 31 inch inseam and it always seems like I'm tip toed on both sides.
@@jameshall8351 I’m 6,3 185 and have had multiple knee injuries from being cramped going into a corner throwing that leg out and smashing it with the bars lol I make sure I wear my mobius now lol
It took 10-12 hours and taking a little compression out but my TM 300 suspension is buttery smooth now at about 25 hours. I have the Mokim head and software tune and at 56hp it's stupid fast, maybe too fast for what I need. Good news is it's easy to control the power and hit with the electronic power valve. Make sure Power Chicken Offroad sets you up with a computer power switch. Thanks for the hard work!
I'm not quite sure what to do with the suspension on mine the rear feels pretty solid but needs more bottoming resistance, a couple clicks on the compression dampening should sort that. The forks though are more complicated, they feel too harsh at the top of the stroke and lack bottoming resistance at the bottom of the stroke 😅
yeah, I rode yesterday and put it out today. That's not typical, but wanted to start putting content out on this bike. I've had it 3 months and hadn't been able to ride it until yesterday.
I like your observation of feeling short front to back. I have a 2021, and a 2023 TM. The 2021 feels pretty standard compared to “longer” bikes like the KTM, but the 2023 feels like a 2006 RM 250 as far as short wheelbase, and extremely quick handling, without the instability of the Suzuki. It’s quite good in difficult terrain. I have noticed that KYB forks have a unique break in oil in them. After about 5 hours it seems to thicken up, or, that’s the way it feels to me. This is across all brands of bike. Before you start tuning too much, you might consider changing the fork oil. Makes a nice difference.
I love my 2 TM's one is a 2012 TM 300 MX and the other is a 2010 TM 250 Enduro The age makes no difference they are both solid and reliable, and just sick bikes! Love TM Racing, Thank you for the video, and its good to see you back out riding!
I bought the same bike 3 weeks ago. At 225lbs, Master (over60) the bike was fairly balanced. I did have the suspension set up for my riding and weight. The forks are still stiffer than I like but I'm going to ride it a bit more and see how that goes. I ride most Hare Scrambles but also PNW single track. Seems to be comfy and powerful. The map switch does make a difference you can feel which I really didn't feel on my Husqvarna 300. Thanks for the video. Look forward to more input as you get more time on the bike.
If you get a chance, ride it somewhere it can really shine and you can get it to really rev, the harder/faster you ride these bikes the better they get, well that’s what I noticed with my 21 tm300
I hear you on the wet winter. My husband and I just went on a ride here in Prescott AZ and there were still some patches of snow. I’ve been recovering from hitting a deer on my Suzuki Katana the day after Christmas. I’m finally getting on a dirt bike.
If you have the stock rubber damper triple clamps and are anything like me and you fall alot, you will be riding with crooked bars very soon. Probably wont be the bars but the bolt in the triple clamp bends very easy. Check out what Ride Engineering has to offer. I replaced the triple on my 22 300 2t with theirs and they are rock solid now. Fly wheel weight makes a huge difference also in the slow techy stuff.
When i bought my 2023 tm 300 4t i had the option of a solid upper triple clamp or one with rubber bushes for dampening. I choose the second one. In that case you can turn the handlebar clamps around like a ktm. Im surprised you feel cramped on the bike. Im 6.1 and i think it's more spacious compared to my '22 gasgas 350. It has a higher seat height rider triangle is about the same.
I watched your channel. You had me talked into a 2016 KTM 300 XC-W. I hate that bike. It sucks for desert riding. I crashed more on it in the first month than I did on my Honda 450X that I had for 8 years.
as the owner of lets just say '' more than 1 ktm'' and 2 tm 125mx's i can confirm you are 100% on point, the way it feels to me is lik... KTM=mountain bike TM racing=24'' bmx when i got the tm i felt almost to big for it, and very close to the bars, but after a couple days riding it i realized i was suffering from K.D.S. (KTM Derangement Syndrome) ive gotten so used to ktms after owning everything from 150 2 stroke to 525 thunder pumpkin, and they all have one thing in common. that being they all feel like a ktm, fork angle, width, footpeg angle, ect, but thats why i kept buying them , no other bikes feel like a ktm, just like no other bikes feel like a Tm, i have a 2002 tm 125mx and a 2018 model of the same bike ,and its wild how much they have changed but managed to keep the same ''rider feel'' scrubbing and whipping the Tm feels so natural and effortless, just like ktms just feel naturally ballanced and stable holding sick single track lines making it feel effortless , thats just my personal take , i love both bike brands for different reasons,but they are really both just different sides to the same coin. PS i actually like my 525sx, i get alot of flak for saying that, but 6 spd and elec start swap, some other mods of the donor exc along with hotcam and full pipe it is a fkn tundra rocket
What I’d give to ride a trail like that. Living in the flatlands of Texas we don’t see anything like that, all tight technical stuff. As for the bike, I’ll stick with my KTM 300 XCw TPI where there’s no issue getting parts and aftermarket. Great video, love the drone shots.
Hi from Spain!. Good video! I like your chanel a lot!. You need to find a Rieju MR 300 and to do a review. They are good bikes, good components and great price.
Congratulations ! I always enter but never win. Just gonna plan on buying a 2024 KTM 300 XC TBI I late 2024. More than ready to move on from my 97 YZ 285
I much prefer watching the open terrain riding . The in the tree stuff, although it's my preferred riding, watching it gives me vertigo. Yet l still enjoy watching untill l can't.
With that low first gear you say it has it sounds like it would make a really good fast trail bike if the suspension was softened up a bit that's what I feel it could do also
Just put the AXP radiator braces on my 23 TX 300, very good protection and the removal front guards are nice. How would you compare the TMs TBI engine to the KTM/Husky?
When you’re describing the TM it sounds like you’re describing a Sherco flat pegs and cramped cockpit 😂 How does the motor feel and gearing compared to the Sherco and KTM 300s
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They are pretty, never seen 1 in person. It looks squirrelly & kinda darty. It doesn't appear to inspire confidence. Like you're waiting for the front end wash out beneath your feet.
My TM, which I got in March and I now have 5 races on, is the peppiest and most confidence inspiring bike I've ever ridden. I gel with the geometry super well. Feels somewhere between yamaha and ktm which I like
I was thinking "the bike sounds like a 250", just as you said; "its peppy".. Kyle, you do not look comfortable on the bike, like you're 10' tall on it, its making your riding off a bit.
Ok I'm tired of you complaining about non upward angles for pegs because you think they lock you in more. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Also stop using them, here is why. Our bodies have been adapting and evolving over the centuries-yes, but your ankles are not designed to be at this upward angle especially with your weight and added Gs- gravitational force for the jocks out there. They are bad for your ankles- what's attached to your ankles??? Oh yeah the rest of your body.... Sorry I know you can't fix stupid but at least I can say I tried.
That's because it does lock you in more. I have a new Sherco 300 SE Factory, and it came with flat pegs. I tried to get comfortable with them, but found that the flat pegs kept me from really holding onto the bike. New Flo motorsports lowering pegs, and with a slight camber to them... they feel great. So unless we see your name on the roster for Erzberg....Sit down and be quiet.
@@michaelwendler5589 be quite, I'm not the one confessing I'm a weak little bitch. Get stronger and don't be lazy-how about that, like I've said before you can't fix stupid. You have a blessed day Michael
hahaha. they are expensive. Largest check I've written for a dirt bike. Very close to the Sherco in price which is the other largest check I've written.
@@jonathoncatterson8901 could be traifs importer fees etc. Thats just MSRP so dealer maybe cheaper or more(depends what wanna make) might have fees and have add taxes.
Much more coming on this bike in the next 60 days. It will be a sweepstakes bike for June 2023, so I've gotta pound out a bunch of rides on it. Seems like it's going to be really well suited for slower more technical terrain with the motor and geometry, but the forks and shock are set up to go faster.... kinda strange, but this is pretty typical on bikes from what I've seen.
Hey, watching the footage the cock pit does look small but it also looked like you were not hinged at the hips enough. I love your videos and what you do, I’m not here to criticize I’m just pointing out what I see. Maybe because it’s a new bike to you and you had not ridden in a while when this was filmed. It almost looked like your knees were in front of your toes when standing most of the time.
BRC in Canada makes a 500cc kit for most 2-stroke brands
Have you ever done the Virginia city grand prix ? It was super rocky this year... its a very challenging race. This year it was a 21 mile per lap 4 hour race
Hope youll try a Rieju next. Really solid old school 2 stroke
I love my 300 pro!
Rieju suck low quality ktm
Rieju=gas gas before ktm bought them...
@@96jpaulo yes I know.
@@96jpaulo Correct, with some major updates. Wonderful KYB suspension and excellent handing if you’re doing tight single track.
Love mine.
I'm excited to see more on this bike. Honestly I'm excited to see more riding. I got out on my first ride of the year last weekend and I need more!
Good to see you riding again. Its good for the soul 👍🏼
The TM does have a "rear end high" feeling. Remember your AJ Catanzaro training... knees never forward of the pegs. Don't take that the wrong way, I know you're a very good rider and like you said it's been a couple months since you've been able to ride. But that "over the front wheel" feeling will probably go away if you move your hips and knees back. Very excited for your long term review on the bike
Yeah... You're not wrong. Easy to talk about... hard to do in real world terrain though... especially when bouncing all over the trail with stiff suspension.
@@DirtBikeChannel No argument there! For what it's worth, I set my sag to 104mm. From what I hear, most people set it around 105mm-108mm on these bikes.
He can't get his knees rear Of the Footpegs 10:22
@@jaysacco6354 I don't see why not.
Im Loving the TM content. 'I've been waiting for this . I bought a 2021 TM 300 2 years ago from BGR moto , Brian Geddis was awesome and really helped me dial it in. I believe he is in your area or there abouts. a great resource if your looking for insight to really see the TM shine. I live in Mass. so i had it shipped. I have no regrets the course i took to purchase a TM! Ride on Man...
I finally rode my 2023 tm300en this last weekend and damn!!!
It is an animal, runs incredibly crisp and clean
Very comfortable bike
My two brothers ( ktm guys ) instantly fell in love with it
Yeah, it runs great. I'd like to be able to open up the rider cockpit though. I'm 6 feet flat and I feel a touch cramped if I'm honest..
@Dirt Bike Channel I would love to feel cramped. I think im roughly 5'10 and 160 lbs, maybe 31 inch inseam and it always seems like I'm tip toed on both sides.
@@jameshall8351 I’m 6,3 185 and have had multiple knee injuries from being cramped going into a corner throwing that leg out and smashing it with the bars lol I make sure I wear my mobius now lol
Taller handle bars helped alot i cant find and up cambered foot pegs tho
It took 10-12 hours and taking a little compression out but my TM 300 suspension is buttery smooth now at about 25 hours. I have the Mokim head and software tune and at 56hp it's stupid fast, maybe too fast for what I need. Good news is it's easy to control the power and hit with the electronic power valve. Make sure Power Chicken Offroad sets you up with a computer power switch. Thanks for the hard work!
I'm not quite sure what to do with the suspension on mine the rear feels pretty solid but needs more bottoming resistance, a couple clicks on the compression dampening should sort that.
The forks though are more complicated, they feel too harsh at the top of the stroke and lack bottoming resistance at the bottom of the stroke 😅
Wow great turnaround for the video! It's good to see you getting some riding done
yeah, I rode yesterday and put it out today. That's not typical, but wanted to start putting content out on this bike. I've had it 3 months and hadn't been able to ride it until yesterday.
I like your observation of feeling short front to back. I have a 2021, and a 2023 TM. The 2021 feels pretty standard compared to “longer” bikes like the KTM, but the 2023 feels like a 2006 RM 250 as far as short wheelbase, and extremely quick handling, without the instability of the Suzuki. It’s quite good in difficult terrain.
I have noticed that KYB forks have a unique break in oil in them. After about 5 hours it seems to thicken up, or, that’s the way it feels to me. This is across all brands of bike. Before you start tuning too much, you might consider changing the fork oil. Makes a nice difference.
I love my 2 TM's one is a 2012 TM 300 MX and the other is a 2010 TM 250 Enduro The age makes no difference they are both solid and reliable, and just sick bikes! Love TM Racing, Thank you for the video, and its good to see you back out riding!
I bought the same bike 3 weeks ago. At 225lbs, Master (over60) the bike was fairly balanced. I did have the suspension set up for my riding and weight. The forks are still stiffer than I like but I'm going to ride it a bit more and see how that goes. I ride most Hare Scrambles but also PNW single track. Seems to be comfy and powerful. The map switch does make a difference you can feel which I really didn't feel on my Husqvarna 300. Thanks for the video. Look forward to more input as you get more time on the bike.
Its my all time dream to ride with KB !!! I would be in heaven ripping my KTM/300-SX
If you get a chance, ride it somewhere it can really shine and you can get it to really rev, the harder/faster you ride these bikes the better they get, well that’s what I noticed with my 21 tm300
I hear you on the wet winter. My husband and I just went on a ride here in Prescott AZ and there were still some patches of snow. I’ve been recovering from hitting a deer on my Suzuki Katana the day after Christmas. I’m finally getting on a dirt bike.
This drone footage is awesome
They started selling these in my town last year. Been really interested in buying one!
Just watching this video footage and the amount of deflection of the front tire honestly reminds me of riding my 1999 cr250.
If you have the stock rubber damper triple clamps and are anything like me and you fall alot, you will be riding with crooked bars very soon. Probably wont be the bars but the bolt in the triple clamp bends very easy. Check out what Ride Engineering has to offer. I replaced the triple on my 22 300 2t with theirs and they are rock solid now. Fly wheel weight makes a huge difference also in the slow techy stuff.
Awesome bikes 👍I had a TM 300 and it was great to ride it. Two strokes 💪
Get the "Zeta Bar Rise Offset Kit" to move your bars forward. They work great for tight cockpits as long as you don't mind the slight rise in height.
When i bought my 2023 tm 300 4t i had the option of a solid upper triple clamp or one with rubber bushes for dampening. I choose the second one. In that case you can turn the handlebar clamps around like a ktm. Im surprised you feel cramped on the bike. Im 6.1 and i think it's more spacious compared to my '22 gasgas 350. It has a higher seat height rider triangle is about the same.
Very awesome I always liked those TM racing bikes
I watched your channel. You had me talked into a 2016 KTM 300 XC-W. I hate that bike. It sucks for desert riding. I crashed more on it in the first month than I did on my Honda 450X that I had for 8 years.
Nice video on rocky terrain. Next video pls sand hi to your fans here in Brazil we use your rewiew in our forum discussions. Great work 👏
as the owner of lets just say '' more than 1 ktm'' and 2 tm 125mx's i can confirm you are 100% on point, the way it feels to me is lik... KTM=mountain bike TM racing=24'' bmx
when i got the tm i felt almost to big for it, and very close to the bars, but after a couple days riding it i realized i was suffering from K.D.S. (KTM Derangement Syndrome) ive gotten so used to ktms after owning everything from 150 2 stroke to 525 thunder pumpkin, and they all have one thing in common.
that being they all feel like a ktm, fork angle, width, footpeg angle, ect, but thats why i kept buying them , no other bikes feel like a ktm, just like no other bikes feel like a Tm, i have a 2002 tm 125mx and a 2018 model of the same bike ,and its wild how much they have changed but managed to keep the same ''rider feel'' scrubbing and whipping the Tm feels so natural and effortless, just like ktms just feel naturally ballanced and stable holding sick single track lines making it feel effortless , thats just my personal take , i love both bike brands for different reasons,but they are really both just different sides to the same coin. PS i actually like my 525sx, i get alot of flak for saying that, but 6 spd and elec start swap, some other mods of the donor exc along with hotcam and full pipe it is a fkn tundra rocket
Bike sounds good how is the gearing 👍
What I’d give to ride a trail like that. Living in the flatlands of Texas we don’t see anything like that, all tight technical stuff. As for the bike, I’ll stick with my KTM 300 XCw TPI where there’s no issue getting parts and aftermarket. Great video, love the drone shots.
Theirs no shortage of parts or aftermarket parts for TMs .
Don’t care what anyone says the only bike I would ride on that terrain is my Xr650l it shines in the rocks 👍
I bet it would be fun to ride a turns track or whooped sand track to help that suspension break in.
I always wanted one of them
Would you consider reviewing KAYO K6 250r
Sounds really peppy, just wish i knew how it feelt :) nice video and ride.
It's very peppy.
Hi from Spain!. Good video! I like your chanel a lot!. You need to find a Rieju MR 300 and to do a review. They are good bikes, good components and great price.
It will be mine😊
Fingers crossed for you.
Congratulations ! I always enter but never win. Just gonna plan on buying a 2024 KTM 300 XC TBI I late 2024. More than ready to move on from my 97 YZ 285
@DirtBikeChannel Thank you for doing what you do.
I much prefer watching the open terrain riding . The in the tree stuff, although it's my preferred riding, watching it gives me vertigo. Yet l still enjoy watching untill l can't.
With that low first gear you say it has it sounds like it would make a really good fast trail bike if the suspension was softened up a bit that's what I feel it could do also
It is a fast gncc style suspension to 2nd into 3rd bike is planted and fairly plush. Set up for A level rider vs a vet c like ktm dose
Just put the AXP radiator braces on my 23 TX 300, very good protection and the removal front guards are nice. How would you compare the TMs TBI engine to the KTM/Husky?
Have you ever tried the Tusk tires, if so howdo you like them?
"Had minore surgery, and sore there as well" ha! Thats the same verbiage I used when i got the snip-snip!
Where is this trail? I ride in Utah sometimes.
You should have checked the box for rubber isolated triple clamps
You can still purchase them, I 100% recommend you do because you can rotate the mounts forward. It takes honda bar mounts btw.
I just bought what they had in stock...
@@DirtBikeChannel I get it.
So how does this bike compare of any other bike? Seems like there wasn't a lot of info about the bike.
Appears from your position on the bike, the bars are also too low for you. Maybe custom make a pair of risers that also move the bars forward? IDK...
Yes. I'm going to look into this.
Does it feels like an xcw 300 wide ratio gears soft suspension or feels it like an 300xc more to a motocross
Sorry to hear about your marriage feller love your content shush you well
Where do you carry your mavic controller? I've been wanting to do this with mine
Italian quality
Do gpx fse 300r
When you’re describing the TM it sounds like you’re describing a Sherco flat pegs and cramped cockpit 😂
How does the motor feel and gearing compared to the Sherco and KTM 300s
You nailed it! It's MUCH like a SHERCO. 100 Percent.
How does it compare to 4-stroke 450?
When are your doing another give away because I want a 2 stroke so bad😂
Absolutely absurd name, good lord
It looks like you're going to flip over the handlebars just trying to ride straight
nah, i'll stick with my 150xcw and trials tire, great play bike
Leg day plus a vasectomy… hero time😊
Where is the start of this trailhead?
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Exit 70 off i80 delle Utah
@@daviddriscoolI’ve been out there but haven’t been able to find this single track and what he just posted
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haha
What drone are you using?
I think he is using the DJI Mavik pro
@@terrystrahl3275 holy crap, just checked the price… amazing quality footage though. Super cool, thanks for the response.
If you ain't got time to ride some of ur dirtbikes, I can take one man😂
seems more like a crosser than enduro for the riding position ;;
Hand made for sure…. but with ZERO dealer network or support…
From this short initial video seems like it needs different pegs, taller rise bars , and suspension revalve.
They are pretty, never seen 1 in person. It looks squirrelly & kinda darty. It doesn't appear to inspire confidence. Like you're waiting for the front end wash out beneath your feet.
My TM, which I got in March and I now have 5 races on, is the peppiest and most confidence inspiring bike I've ever ridden. I gel with the geometry super well. Feels somewhere between yamaha and ktm which I like
It is squirrelly. Front end biased.
that terrain looks rather boring...Just my opinion. Liked the drone
2035 no more dirtbikes with cumbustoon
I was thinking "the bike sounds like a 250", just as you said; "its peppy".. Kyle, you do not look comfortable on the bike, like you're 10' tall on it, its making your riding off a bit.
Ok I'm tired of you complaining about non upward angles for pegs because you think they lock you in more. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Also stop using them, here is why. Our bodies have been adapting and evolving over the centuries-yes, but your ankles are not designed to be at this upward angle especially with your weight and added Gs- gravitational force for the jocks out there. They are bad for your ankles- what's attached to your ankles??? Oh yeah the rest of your body.... Sorry I know you can't fix stupid but at least I can say I tried.
That's because it does lock you in more. I have a new Sherco 300 SE Factory, and it came with flat pegs. I tried to get comfortable with them, but found that the flat pegs kept me from really holding onto the bike. New Flo motorsports lowering pegs, and with a slight camber to them... they feel great. So unless we see your name on the roster for Erzberg....Sit down and be quiet.
@@michaelwendler5589 be quite, I'm not the one confessing I'm a weak little bitch. Get stronger and don't be lazy-how about that, like I've said before you can't fix stupid. You have a blessed day Michael
You look like a Hoby rider 🤭
This is exactly what the field needed. Yet another over priced entry.
They don't cost any more than the other Euro bikes.
hahaha. they are expensive. Largest check I've written for a dirt bike. Very close to the Sherco in price which is the other largest check I've written.
Cost same as others. 10.8 for carb 11.2 for tbi. Ktm 11.4 Sherco 12 beta rr re 10.6
@cowpker4life333 why you guys pay so much for bikes. Im in canada and ktm 2023 is 10.3 gasgas 9.7 husqvarna 10.4.
@@jonathoncatterson8901 could be traifs importer fees etc. Thats just MSRP so dealer maybe cheaper or more(depends what wanna make) might have fees and have add taxes.