To get started on your medic al exam you have to start here. Didn't talk about it in the video though... you always forget something right!? medxpress.faa.gov/medxpress/
So would I need to quit smoking weed to get a licence ? like I wouldn't smoke and fly but i would probably always fail a drug test same as driving I don't drive stoned but if I was tested sure Im fucked as I know weed stays in your system for a long time Any insight as would be pointless for me to try obtain a licence
super helpful! im disabled and never thought I could fly. I just learned my conditions don't disqualified me and I. starting flight school - next week!
Ramp check. They are random...FAA inspectors do them...Also. If you have an emergency landing...or crash or reportable incident. You also need a passport if you fly to Mexico or Canada.
Very informative and straight to the point. It’s exactly the same in the U.K. The advice to get this sorted before spending any money on lessons is key. Thank you. Paul
One thing I will say is to make sure you are relaxed and hydrated at your exam. I am very healthy but I made the mistake of going in for my exam just after a very heavy workout and dehydrated. I felt sluggish so just before the exam, I slammed an energy drink. Well the first thing they do when I go in, is have me take a urine sample then take my blood pressure. It was 140/90! I almost failed. Luckily my examiner could tell I was dehydrated from my beer-colored urine. She looked at me and gave me back to back glasses of water. Then said sit and relax for a couple minutes. They took it again and it was 115/75. I almost failed due to a big workout before the exam and by not hydrating, the energy drink didn’t help either.
I'm surprised they didn't tell you to do that. My office wont even let you book an appointment without doing that first! Glad it helped though! Thanks for watching.
You can't get an aviation medical exam from anyone other than a designated AME...Aviation Medical Examiner. If you go for one...find an AME that will let you ask questions before signing up for the exam to see if you can pass...if you take the exam and fail it...you will struggle to be able to take it again dependent on the reason for the failure.
I am going to start my Private Pilot training next month and your videos have helped me SO much. Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information
That is super good news for me because ever since I was a kid I wanted to be a pilot but thought I couldn't because I have cerebral palsy. But after earning what's in the medical exam from your video and looking at the disqualifying conditions I WILL be able to obtain my private pilot's license!!!
155/ 95 is Very High Blood Pressure. Normal Average Blood Pressure is around 120/80 An "ok" blood pressure and this depends on the individual needs to be under 140 (Systollic) top number and under 90 (Diastollic) bottom number.
I'm sure they give a small margin of error for "nerves" when going into your appointment, which is why they allow high blood pressure. It's stressful when you go in for your medical, especially as you age.
155/95 is not very high, been a flight medic for 20+ yrs and I can tell you that is usually what the untreated early stage hypertensive patients blood pressure is. I would venture to say that a large majority of those who are overweight and have untreated hypertension are in this category. And it’s a finding they would probably like to see corrected before flying. And I will tell you this…. This is exactly where a lot of Americans currently fall into category wise regarding their blood pressure.
I'm sorry to hear that. Check out the sport pilot certificate though, if you're well enough to drive a car you can still fly for recreation, as long as you haven't gone after a class medical before.
@@flywiththeguys thanks I am easily driving 4 or 5 hours drive without an issue and do cardio exercises as well. in UK I guess its called light aircraft pilot licence. I will precheck the medical checkup if I do go ahead with actual flying lessons. i
I have a bit of colorblindness so I’m terrified of going to the AME. I have my exam on Wednesday. I guess we’ll see if my dream since I was 6 will come true.
@@flywiththeguys my health is reasonable my wife isn't she yells at me about my car driving she doesn't think I belong in a plane I think I'd be safer on a plane
I'm 57 and I've got 20/40 vision in both eyes, never had glasses before. I'm still worried I might fail so was thinking of getting my first pair of Rx glasses and trying to pass without them, but then use them if needed during the exam.
Your eyesight changes as you get older a doctor told me my would likely get better. I'm a professional driver and I don't have or need glasses at the moment but I noticed when I was wearing them overtime my vision improved and got nearly perfect until I stopped wearing them again
Just get glasses if your 57 what about any other health issues. Just remember anything a doctor ever wrote down in a chart has to be disclosed going back 3 years.
Hey! Great videos man, getting close to pullin the trigger on my first lesson! I was wondering if you could do a video detailing the basic materials required for training/ground school etc. I'm primarily curious about what books to purchase.
I literally started this script and scratched it in the end. But, I could always dust it off! Thanks for your suggestion. And in reality, you only need about $300 ish in materials.
Imo it's better to get a aviation kit if you know no one in the field. Most kits like the gliem and others will have everything you need to start if not everything you'll need until you finish your ppl. Study books, practice tests, log book ECT.
Thats a hard one to cover. Everything thats medically disqualifying is ridiculously drawn out and expensive. It's really frustrating. There is always the sport pilot certificate though. You can fly, with limitations of course, but no medical required.
They have a list of approved and disqualifying medications. I need to find it. My wife and I were arguing about Claritin-D the other day and found the ingredients are all on the approved list.
Anyone ever heard if AME's can "fail" you for being transgender? Seems like a silly question probably but as someone coming from Naval Aviation, which does not allow that, I am nervous they will say no.
one 'gotcha' to be aware of .... if you go for the medical exam and fail, you're also screwed for the sport pilot certificate on basis of that failure even though sport pilot doesn't require medical certificate per se (until such time, as ever, you'd be able to pass the medical in which case it would really make more sense to go for private pilot certificate) in that a driver's license effectively doubles as a medical certificate for the sport pilot license IF ... and only IF you have no unresolved past medical certificate failures(and once failing such certification, rather unlikely you'd ever pass, depending on circumstances) ... so yeah .... if you have reason to expect failing the class III check up, be very cautious about making the attempt
@@flywiththeguys hey hope your safe and healthy- Was this video made- thanks for the work you put into these videos- pretty informative. Grateful for your enthusiasm on the topic.
I'm trying to lose weight before even attempt to start this process. I'm over 300lbs and sure I know ill pass BUT I want to pass without any possible worry.
Depends on your abilities. FOR SURE do a consult first and check out this article from the AOPA - www.aopa.org/go-fly/medical-resources/health-conditions/vision/monocular-vision#:~:text=Pilots%20with%20useful%20vision%20in,duties%20without%20compromising%20aviation%20safety.
I failed a random Dot drug screen and have just recently returned to duty . Would that be a disqualification under substance abuse? I inhaled plant matter without a mask 😷 and I got stoned ! Vices are not crimes-Lysander Spooner
Im 40 years old and suffer from hearing loss in both ears that i struggle with day to day communication as well as at work. I currently do not have hearing aids but is this something that is permitted to pass the hear section of the physical? As a side note due to covid as mandatory masks were worn i learned that i read lips more than i knew
This article should help! It's possible, but make sure to do an AME consult first to make sure you'll have all your ducks in a row for the actual medical - pilot-protection-services.aopa.org/news/2014/june/02/i-have-an-app-for-that
I am slightly colour blind with red and green can I see become a pilot I’m 15 years old and have had some flying lessons and have been fine reading instruments can I still get a pilots license
I have a serious question. What if someone has become Handicapped or Disabled and they're needing pain meds prescribed by their Doctor. They've been Driving for 40 years like this and never once had any kind of an accident or anything medication related. In fact He is perfectly normal with them. If he can drive down the freeway at 80+ miles per hour litterally 2 to 3 feet from a huge semi at high speeds around corners and through very busy traffic. Would that disqualify him. He used to fly and want's to get back in to it again. In fact it was while working on an Aircraft that caused the accident that caused his disability.
This is the FAA do not fly medication list. Check it out to answer the medication question. The handicap side of it is going to be up to the AME and possibly the FAA. As recommended in the video, do an AME consult first.
Yes and No. ADHD has been a hot topic recently. The FAA doesn't allow you to fly when taking ADHD medication. If you're not looking for the career path, you can always get a sport pilot certificate, no medical required!
I have crones disease. I need medical infusions every 2 months and a couple meds. Would that keep me from getting a certificate? My eyes are great and so is my hearing.
My best friend has that, so I feel for you man. It would be best to consult a AME first on that one. I'm not qualified to answer it. =( But you can always be a sport pilot. No medical required for that one.
Hey Aviation Guy, New Sub here. Thanks for explanation of Class 3 Medical Certification. One Q? Can you have Hearing Aids and pass hearing test portion?
I believe so. You would want to wear them or take them to your appointment. As long as you pass the hearing test with them you should be fine. However, similar to glasses, your medical certificate would note that “hearing amplification is required.”
i'm writing this question just before i begin watching (might be a stupid move but i'll just post it). Do they perform the urine test in front of the doctor or there is kind of some privacy in the process? Cuz seriously that was one of my biggest discomforts when I did it back in my country's airline test for the scholarship. How is it in the U.S.?
The US is a bit more sensitive to that and have you do it in a bathroom. They're not testing for drugs, they're checking for other things so its a bit more relaxed.
@@flywiththeguys As you know there is a long list of disqualifying medical conditions. Also, there is another long list of disqualifying medications one may be be taking...so getting the exam before wasting time and money is a safer bet.
I take medications for OCD and Tourette’s Syndrom. Symptoms so mild I’m on the lowest possible dose of an antipsychotic. However would that prevent me from passing the medical exam?
I have a question, if certain medical conditions disqualify you from becoming a pilot, why does it feel personal and unfair, it's not like it's my fault if i have color blindness. Thanks.
Colorblindness doesn't automatically disqualify you. I know several colorblind pilots. Some have limitations, others don't. So it really depends on what kind of flying you want to do. Outside that, you can always become a sport pilot, which requires no medical. There are limitations on what you can fly, but you can still fly for recreation.
I am recovering from a femur, hip and knee fracture, to fix it I had hip replacement and partial femur replacement and surgery on both knees. Once I recover I need to be able to get in a Cessna 172 without putting too much strain into my legs, there are no videos that show anyone accessing a Cessna 172, could you please do one on how to get in and out? Do I use the step on the wheel, can I bring my own step stool? I'm 5 feet 9 inches.
The Cessna is easy to get in. There is a step on the landing gear you can use, about half way up. You may be able to use a step stool, but the landing gear would really be in the way of it. The biggest problem is the seat. If you can't move it back far enough, it can make it hard to navigate your feet. I'll see if I can get a little video story out to show you what you're asking for.
@@flywiththeguys Hi, do you still think you can do a video for this? It would help me and I'm sure there are many others that don't learn to fly for similar concerns. I spent hours searching in RUclips and nobody has made a video about this.
I have a ?, I can’t see red and green on they circle sheets for what ever reason BUT I can see red and green with no problems! Can I still become a privet air pilot?
Possibly. I know a few guys that have similar issues and became pilots. Like the video said, do a consultation first to make sure you have your ducks in a row, but I believe it takes a special issuance medical. Don't quote me on it though.
They didn't test me but I would say don't bother. If you cant put down weed for fly then you shouldn't be flying. If they want to use the excuse that it helps they're mental state then they really shouldn't be flying. Danger to their self and public.
Using any drugs when flying, legal or illegal, can effect judgment and reaction times. So, in the hopes you're joking, they don't tests for THC. There is a pee test though that I didn't include, but should be in the description.
@@flywiththeguys So the pee test is mandatory? and if the result came out stating that there is THC in their body, meaning that person has recently used marijuana, will it considered a fail for the medical exam?
Unsure on that one. From what I'm reading as long as you're not on medications or have an official diagnosis that you have vertigo there may not be much of a problem. I would for sure do an AME consultation first though.
I'm 24. My ENTIRE life I have wanted to get my private pilot license and I easily fit all medical requirements but my eyes aren't the best. Together I see 20/40 no problem with my glasses, and I see about 20/40 in my left eye with my glasses on. But with my right eye I see about 20/70 if I remember correctly. Like I said, together they are corrected to 20/40 which is good enough to drive, but I'm not sure if my right eye will meet the requirements....
Tough question to answer. For sure a consult with an AME on it so you can get your ducks in a row. You may be able to get a 3rd medical certificate with a special issuance. As far as 2nd or 1st class, I don't know.
I really do want to become a pilot. Have wanted to for many years, and now I have the time and money. I am feeling a little doubtful my dream will come to fruition, but, onwards and upwards!
@@jamesalvarez2528 Very cool! I would start with the consultation for sure then. If you go right in for certificate appointment, they have to accept or reject you on the spot. The consultation will allow you to get information without it being reported to the FAA. Once you have all the info, find out if its a possibility, and have all your documents ready, then go for the actual certificate appointment. Start here though, its directly from the FAA on the matter: www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/diabetes_med/
It can. I would do a AME consult first to make sure it's not going to be a problem. There are typically additional test that you would have to do. Heres a good article from AOPA on the subject. www.aopa.org/go-fly/medical-resources/health-conditions/mental-health/add-and-adhd
Not sure what your numbers mean as far as correction goes. Sounds like you're outside the US, which is what my information is primary for. 1st Class Medical is different for different countries, so you may what to check what they are for yours. However, here are the guidelines for the US: www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/standards/
Sir I have -7D in the right eye and -2D in the left eye but with specs I have can see 20/20 with both eyes and I can see 20/40 with the right eye (-7 D). -7D because I've done a surgery before. The regulation said that the myopia don't have to go over -6 but I don't know in one eye or both? What do you think is there any chance to pass medical 1?
That would be a good question for an AME. Here are their guidelines: www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/standards/
There is a lot involved with that, but the outlook look is positive. I would recommend a consult with an AME prior to going for your 3rd Class Medical to see what steps you need to take. It will require supported documents from other doctors, which is why the consult would be your best bet. The FAA approves medical certificates for people with these conditions case by case, so it will be a long drawn out process.
Not to my knowledge. I know they have restrictions in the armed forces. But for general aviation, you can lower the seat and scoot it back if your tall. If your overweight you can still fly as long as you adhere to weigh and balance restrictions of the aircraft.
I was just denied today for a low dose of welbutrin. There are only 4 authorized antidepressants... Celexa, Lexapro, Zoloft, and one I can't recall. Very disappointing..
@@wespeterson9550 I'm considering switching up to something else. I'm having a hard time finding out hiw long I need to be off welbutrin, when I can be re-examined, etc. Until then, I'm looking into a sports license, which requires no medical check. The downside is you can only fly a two-seater that weighs no more than 1320 lb, and only during the daytime. The two flight schools in my area do not have sports planes to train with. The frustration is that there are probably loads of pilots that have untreated or unreported depression or anxiety. At least I'm taking taking control of my situation and keeping everything under control.
possible, but a lot of hoops to jump through. Checkout these requirements when you see the AME, but you can also become a sport pilot, no medical required! - www.faa.gov/ame_guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/pacemaker
@@flywiththeguys I already have a private license from years ago. I haven’t flown since the late eighties due to life changes. I thought it would be cool to get back into it again.
@@flywiththeguys but that says oral medication, whereas i take one pill and 2 shots of insulin every day - which is my fear that if you take insulin you can't pass the medical.
If you're not on any medications I don't see a problem, but I'm not an AME. You may have issues with weight and balance in smaller aircraft though. Not making a joke. Airplanes only have so much useful load, or weight it can carry. A small cessna 150 is somewhere between 450 and 500 lbs. So between you, your instructor, and fuel, you're probably not getting off the ground. A 172 should work though, they're closer to 850-950, but use more fuel so that has to be taken into consideration.
I was sure I read that a private pilot license/cert doesnt expire. So, what happens if you do not get a medical exam every 2 or 5 years? Does this prohibit you from flying? Do you have to show current Medical cert each time u fly?
Well technically anyone could fly a plane and as long as nothing happens, no one would know. Same goes with the medical certificate. If you get reported or caught you can have your license suspended or permanently revoked. You don’t have to show it every time you fly, but you must maintain a valid medical certificate to legally fly, and to keep yourself and others around you safe.
The third class medical does expire. If you are under 40-years-old, the certificate expires in 5 years (60 months). If you are over 40, the certificate expires in 2 years (24 months). You will have to visit your AME for a renewal exam prior to the expiration. You are required to have on your person your valid and current medical certificate each time you fly as pilot-in-command (PIC). It's like driving a car without a license. Sure, you might get away with it, but if you get caught, there are serious consequences.
So, I passed the written for the Private Pilots License written exam about 10 years ago but failed the health exam because I was taking insomnia medication. I haven't taken insomnia medication since, and as this was my intended career it really hurt... can I ever reapply?
That is a question for an AME, but I believe as long as you're not on any medications it can be cleared up and you can start flying again. As far as the written, you'll have to take that again. The score was only good for 24 months.
There is a lot involved to answer that question, and I'm not qualified to do so. Here is a link that may help - www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/app_process/exam_tech/item47/amd/antidepressants/ Best bet though, contact an AME for a consultation to find out.
@@flywiththeguys i heard of those glasses for color blind people too, wouldn't that fall under prescription, worst case scenario?? & thank you!! i certainly will.
The link still works, but it takes a bit for the search to load. Once it does you select select AME from the drop down and start with your country and State. Click the HIMS Button and then search. This will provide you with a list of AME's in your state. Then you can look for one close by. BUT, I've found that not all AME's are on this list. You can do a google search for one in your area as well. I should make a video on this...
@@flywiththeguys thought so, but asked just in case, since there was a Marine Corps Top Gun pilot selling a ppilot training program and claiming he bought a program to improve his eyesight to 20/20 by doing some daily activities with the eyes. So, I just wondered if you knew something similar, since you are also pilots
They're required for different types of flying. 2nd class for commercial flying, and 1st for airline (in a nut shell) BUT, there are a few more requirements for each class, as well as how long they last for. Age plays a part in it too.
Do they drug test? I have smoked marijuana in the last 30 days and am taking my medical exam soon and am worried that they will drug test. Please advise.
Nope. They just do a quick eye test making sure you have at least 20/40 vision. If you have to wear glasses, take them with you. If you wear contacts, just say so. They'll put down you require corrective lenses on your medical certificate. No big deal!
Depends on why you had it and if its a persisting problem. I had a friend that didn't know he would have it until he started flying at a flight school. He ended up having to drop out. I would recommend talking to your DR or going on a discovery flight to see if you have the problem in flight.
Plan on starting flight school in a month. But I have a tattoo from my elbow to about an inch above my wrist bone. Obviously I would wear long sleeves while on the job but will this stop me from being hired by air lines? Any advice is appreciated thanks
That question has a mixed bag of answers. All I can tell you is that most crew members wear long sleeves on the job. Some airlines won’t care if they are covered up, others will. Where I dont have a direct answer, contact a few regional and major airlines and see what they say.
Am I allowed to be 420 friendly ? Is a drug test part of the exam ? Or is it like a drivers license where I can be free aslong as I’m not behind the wheel ?
Unfortunately no. It’s part of the FAA questions for the medical exam. They haven’t relaxed the rules and I don’t seem them doing it. They’re really strict on substances of all types.
To get started on your medic al exam you have to start here. Didn't talk about it in the video though... you always forget something right!? medxpress.faa.gov/medxpress/
Guess you didn't bother to look at the links, right ??
So would I need to quit smoking weed to get a licence ? like I wouldn't smoke and fly but i would probably always fail a drug test same as driving I don't drive stoned but if I was tested sure Im fucked as I know weed stays in your system for a long time Any insight as would be pointless for me to try obtain a licence
One question do you need to have a 20/20 vision in order to get this certificate.
@@osvaldomendez2949 Nope =)
@@flywiththeguys ok thank you so much.
super helpful! im disabled and never thought I could fly. I just learned my conditions don't disqualified me and I. starting flight school - next week!
Awesome! Good luck!
How’s it going
That’s amazing
Are you disabled through the VA? I am. I have my medical this Friday. IM wanting to get my Class 1, in hopes of getting my ATP or Commercial one day.
Best wishes. How's it going ?
Carry it with you when you fly.
In case you get pulled over?
Truth. It's a required document.
they wait for you at the toll booth ;)
Ramp check. They are random...FAA inspectors do them...Also. If you have an emergency landing...or crash or reportable incident. You also need a passport if you fly to Mexico or Canada.
Image you see two huge balloon that have a sign saying quick toll roads in the air
Very informative and straight to the point. It’s exactly the same in the U.K.
The advice to get this sorted before spending any money on lessons is key.
Thank you.
Paul
Yeah
One thing I will say is to make sure you are relaxed and hydrated at your exam. I am very healthy but I made the mistake of going in for my exam just after a very heavy workout and dehydrated. I felt sluggish so just before the exam, I slammed an energy drink. Well the first thing they do when I go in, is have me take a urine sample then take my blood pressure. It was 140/90! I almost failed. Luckily my examiner could tell I was dehydrated from my beer-colored urine. She looked at me and gave me back to back glasses of water. Then said sit and relax for a couple minutes. They took it again and it was 115/75. I almost failed due to a big workout before the exam and by not hydrating, the energy drink didn’t help either.
Good advice. Thanks for sharing it.
Great info! My doc didn't tell me I needed to register with the FAA for my 3rd class exam. Glad I came here before my appointment next month!
I'm surprised they didn't tell you to do that. My office wont even let you book an appointment without doing that first! Glad it helped though! Thanks for watching.
You can't get an aviation medical exam from anyone other than a designated AME...Aviation Medical Examiner. If you go for one...find an AME that will let you ask questions before signing up for the exam to see if you can pass...if you take the exam and fail it...you will struggle to be able to take it again dependent on the reason for the failure.
Excellent video! Well-presented. Glad I found this information as I am just beginning the journey to private pilot's cert at 54 years old.
Awesome! Good luck and enjoy!
Awesome. How is it going thus far?
I am going to start my Private Pilot training next month and your videos have helped me SO much. Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information
You're welcome. Lots more to come!
That is super good news for me because ever since I was a kid I wanted to be a pilot but thought I couldn't because I have cerebral palsy. But after earning what's in the medical exam from your video and looking at the disqualifying conditions I WILL be able to obtain my private pilot's license!!!
how are you doing?
EXCELLENT VIDEO ON THIS SUBJECT. TO THE POINT
155/ 95 is Very High Blood Pressure.
Normal Average Blood Pressure is around 120/80
An "ok" blood pressure and this depends on the individual needs to be under 140 (Systollic) top number
and under 90 (Diastollic) bottom number.
I'm sure they give a small margin of error for "nerves" when going into your appointment, which is why they allow high blood pressure. It's stressful when you go in for your medical, especially as you age.
155/95 is not very high, been a flight medic for 20+ yrs and I can tell you that is usually what the untreated early stage hypertensive patients blood pressure is. I would venture to say that a large majority of those who are overweight and have untreated hypertension are in this category. And it’s a finding they would probably like to see corrected before flying. And I will tell you this…. This is exactly where a lot of Americans currently fall into category wise regarding their blood pressure.
thanks for the positivity
I am a heart patient so I can only wish I had time and likelihood to train for recreational flying lessons and licence
I'm sorry to hear that. Check out the sport pilot certificate though, if you're well enough to drive a car you can still fly for recreation, as long as you haven't gone after a class medical before.
@@flywiththeguys thanks I am easily driving 4 or 5 hours drive without an issue and do cardio exercises as well. in UK I guess its called light aircraft pilot licence.
I will precheck the medical checkup if I do go ahead with actual flying lessons.
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Nooo don’t get a medical
Sounds the same as a D.O.T physical for a CDL.
It does sound similar with a little more tolerance on the blood pressure and the extra stimulation of inner ear issues.
I was thinking exactly this so now I have to pay for and carry two identical medical cards from different parts of the same government agency
Man...just by virtue of the BP numbers alone, they should just let us transfer over.
Ya ..it's seems to run parallel..If a Class A CDL is good for 2 years, might as well throw in the PPL.
I've been studying for months just to find out my eyes won't be strong enough to pass, despite always wearing glasses. Pretty heartbroken
That's terrible. If you don't mind me asking, whats your vision like? is it worse then 20/40 with correction?
Can you still do a sport pilot certificate?
@@jshepard152 As I understand it, you don't need
a medical exam for LSA (light Sport Aircraft).
I have a bit of colorblindness so I’m terrified of going to the AME. I have my exam on Wednesday. I guess we’ll see if my dream since I was 6 will come true.
Man I'm behind on the comments. How did the appointment go? I know a lot of colorblind pilots.
@@flywiththeguys I PASSED MY CLASS 3!!!!
@@burritoboi6620 Awesome! Congratulations!
A 3rd class certification seems to be about the same as a Federal DOT medical card for a CDL.
You're not the first person to mention that. =)
I was thinking the same thing.
No I'm not so scared to go find an AME thank you oh I'll be 61 this year and I'm still looking for a flight school dang it
LOL. It's not terrible if you're in reasonable health!
@@flywiththeguys my health is reasonable my wife isn't she yells at me about my car driving she doesn't think I belong in a plane I think I'd be safer on a plane
I'm 57 and I've got 20/40 vision in both eyes, never had glasses before. I'm still worried I might fail so was thinking of getting my first pair of Rx glasses and trying to pass without them, but then use them if needed during the exam.
That’s what I did/do!
Your eyesight changes as you get older a doctor told me my would likely get better. I'm a professional driver and I don't have or need glasses at the moment but I noticed when I was wearing them overtime my vision improved and got nearly perfect until I stopped wearing them again
Just get glasses if your 57 what about any other health issues. Just remember anything a doctor ever wrote down in a chart has to be disclosed going back 3 years.
So there's no needles?
Good, I was wondering about
that feature..
Nope. Not that I remember at least. =)
@@flywiththeguys
Cool, (my memory when it comes
to needles is impeccable. : )
Thank you so much. The video was well informative on the 3rd class certificate
You're very welcome!
Hey! Great videos man, getting close to pullin the trigger on my first lesson! I was wondering if you could do a video detailing the basic materials required for training/ground school etc. I'm primarily curious about what books to purchase.
I literally started this script and scratched it in the end. But, I could always dust it off! Thanks for your suggestion. And in reality, you only need about $300 ish in materials.
Imo it's better to get a aviation kit if you know no one in the field. Most kits like the gliem and others will have everything you need to start if not everything you'll need until you finish your ppl. Study books, practice tests, log book ECT.
Hey I’m red green color blind can still see run way lights tho what do I do
I got a class one with 20/25 in one eye corrected. Nice video
And I also have Eosinophilic Esophagitis
@@Hedgeflexlfz what's that lol
@@davidliu2243 Chronic immune mediated disease of the esophagus caused primarily by food antigens
I get a class 3 flight physicals for work. Wonder if I can use that in its place on the civilian side.
Each industry is regulated differently and has their own set of Drs. is my understanding. But it would be cool if they did!
I am gonna need to make mental health video as I have found none on youtube. it seems long drawn and more work and expensive.
Thats a hard one to cover. Everything thats medically disqualifying is ridiculously drawn out and expensive. It's really frustrating. There is always the sport pilot certificate though. You can fly, with limitations of course, but no medical required.
The University of North Dakota told me that I have to get my prostate checked... but with this video looks like it’s not required?
It appears that if you had a chronic back pain issue and are on long term low dose pain meds (schedule 2) that would dq you from a medical certificate
They have a list of approved and disqualifying medications. I need to find it. My wife and I were arguing about Claritin-D the other day and found the ingredients are all on the approved list.
This is very helpful, for someone about to begin flight training they should watch this
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
Anyone ever heard if AME's can "fail" you for being transgender? Seems like a silly question probably but as someone coming from Naval Aviation, which does not allow that, I am nervous they will say no.
I wouldn't think so, but if your on medications that could be disqualifying. Highly recommend a consultation first.
one 'gotcha' to be aware of .... if you go for the medical exam and fail, you're also screwed for the sport pilot certificate on basis of that failure even though sport pilot doesn't require medical certificate per se (until such time, as ever, you'd be able to pass the medical in which case it would really make more sense to go for private pilot certificate)
in that a driver's license effectively doubles as a medical certificate for the sport pilot license IF ... and only IF you have no unresolved past medical certificate failures(and once failing such certification, rather unlikely you'd ever pass, depending on circumstances) ... so yeah .... if you have reason to expect failing the class III check up, be very cautious about making the attempt
This is true. I need to make a new video on this.
@S M yup ... is a catch-22 that could bite people in the ass .... and easily overlooked if you don't pay very close attention to details of the rules
@@flywiththeguys hey hope your safe and healthy- Was this video made- thanks for the work you put into these videos- pretty informative. Grateful for your enthusiasm on the topic.
Love the intro to your videos
I'm trying to lose weight before even attempt to start this process. I'm over 300lbs and sure I know ill pass BUT I want to pass without any possible worry.
I like where you're heads at. Being healthy long term is a top priority for pilots.
We have 4 classes in canada.
I feel like He's directing an orchestra haha..
I only have one eye. I can see the color checker and I don't have depth reception loss. Would that disqualify me?
Depends on your abilities. FOR SURE do a consult first and check out this article from the AOPA - www.aopa.org/go-fly/medical-resources/health-conditions/vision/monocular-vision#:~:text=Pilots%20with%20useful%20vision%20in,duties%20without%20compromising%20aviation%20safety.
I failed a random Dot drug screen and have just recently returned to duty . Would that be a disqualification under substance abuse? I inhaled plant matter without a mask 😷 and I got stoned !
Vices are not crimes-Lysander Spooner
Have a question regarding AME. What if one is color deficient? When it comes to the color test.
Check out this article. It should answer your question. www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2012/january/01/answers-for-pilots-color-vision
Im 40 years old and suffer from hearing loss in both ears that i struggle with day to day communication as well as at work. I currently do not have hearing aids but is this something that is permitted to pass the hear section of the physical? As a side note due to covid as mandatory masks were worn i learned that i read lips more than i knew
This article should help! It's possible, but make sure to do an AME consult first to make sure you'll have all your ducks in a row for the actual medical - pilot-protection-services.aopa.org/news/2014/june/02/i-have-an-app-for-that
Thank you, Sir. This was insightful!
Glad you liked it.
I am slightly colour blind with red and green can I see become a pilot I’m 15 years old and have had some flying lessons and have been fine reading instruments can I still get a pilots license
You're really going to have to ask an AME that question to find out. It can sometimes depend on the severity.
Aviation Guys thank you for the advise
I have a serious question. What if someone has become Handicapped or Disabled and they're needing pain meds prescribed by their Doctor. They've been Driving for 40 years like this and never once had any kind of an accident or anything medication related. In fact He is perfectly normal with them. If he can drive down the freeway at 80+ miles per hour litterally 2 to 3 feet from a huge semi at high speeds around corners and through very busy traffic. Would that disqualify him. He used to fly and want's to get back in to it again. In fact it was while working on an Aircraft that caused the accident that caused his disability.
This is the FAA do not fly medication list. Check it out to answer the medication question. The handicap side of it is going to be up to the AME and possibly the FAA. As recommended in the video, do an AME consult first.
www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/pharm/dni_dnf/
On adderal can I still learn to fly ?????
Yes and No. ADHD has been a hot topic recently. The FAA doesn't allow you to fly when taking ADHD medication. If you're not looking for the career path, you can always get a sport pilot certificate, no medical required!
By far the best explanation I’ve seen yet. Just mention how to register.
Yea, someone called me out on that too. Really should have included it, but I added it to the description.
Thanks for the great videos! Is there a particular AME you could suggest for the north Phoenix area? Thanks
www.drdykema.com/
I have crones disease. I need medical infusions every 2 months and a couple meds. Would that keep me from getting a certificate? My eyes are great and so is my hearing.
My best friend has that, so I feel for you man. It would be best to consult a AME first on that one. I'm not qualified to answer it. =( But you can always be a sport pilot. No medical required for that one.
Hey Aviation Guy, New Sub here. Thanks for explanation of Class 3 Medical Certification. One Q? Can you have Hearing Aids and pass hearing test portion?
I believe so. You would want to wear them or take them to your appointment. As long as you pass the hearing test with them you should be fine. However, similar to glasses, your medical certificate would note that “hearing amplification is required.”
Aviation Guys Thank you again for your reply and I will make further inquiries with my local FBO.
i'm writing this question just before i begin watching (might be a stupid move but i'll just post it).
Do they perform the urine test in front of the doctor or there is kind of some privacy in the process? Cuz seriously that was one of my biggest discomforts when I did it back in my country's airline test for the scholarship. How is it in the U.S.?
The US is a bit more sensitive to that and have you do it in a bathroom. They're not testing for drugs, they're checking for other things so its a bit more relaxed.
I started flight training not too long ago like I’ve had 2 classes and that’s about it. And I haven’t done a medical exam.... is that fine?
If you’re healthy I wouldn’t worry about it. There should be a link in the description to the requirements.
Do i get an FAA on my own , from the very start? Or do i wait for my instructor to tell me when i should go..?
Get your medical done BEFORE you waste money on training. It will save you money and time.
@@flywiththeguys As you know there is a long list of disqualifying medical conditions. Also, there is another long list of disqualifying medications one may be be taking...so getting the exam before wasting time and money is a safer bet.
I take medications for OCD and Tourette’s Syndrom. Symptoms so mild I’m on the lowest possible dose of an antipsychotic. However would that prevent me from passing the medical exam?
I'm not sure on that one. For sure an AME consult. BUT, there's always the sport pilot license. No medical required!
I have a question, if certain medical conditions disqualify you from becoming a pilot, why does it feel personal and unfair, it's not like it's my fault if i have color blindness. Thanks.
Colorblindness doesn't automatically disqualify you. I know several colorblind pilots. Some have limitations, others don't. So it really depends on what kind of flying you want to do. Outside that, you can always become a sport pilot, which requires no medical. There are limitations on what you can fly, but you can still fly for recreation.
I am recovering from a femur, hip and knee fracture, to fix it I had hip replacement and partial femur replacement and surgery on both knees. Once I recover I need to be able to get in a Cessna 172 without putting too much strain into my legs, there are no videos that show anyone accessing a Cessna 172, could you please do one on how to get in and out? Do I use the step on the wheel, can I bring my own step stool? I'm 5 feet 9 inches.
The Cessna is easy to get in. There is a step on the landing gear you can use, about half way up. You may be able to use a step stool, but the landing gear would really be in the way of it. The biggest problem is the seat. If you can't move it back far enough, it can make it hard to navigate your feet. I'll see if I can get a little video story out to show you what you're asking for.
@@flywiththeguys Hi, do you still think you can do a video for this? It would help me and I'm sure there are many others that don't learn to fly for similar concerns. I spent hours searching in RUclips and nobody has made a video about this.
Looking to getting this done before I start training 👍
Good choice.
Thank You this was great help
I have a ?, I can’t see red and green on they circle sheets for what ever reason BUT I can see red and green with no problems! Can I still become a privet air pilot?
Possibly. I know a few guys that have similar issues and became pilots. Like the video said, do a consultation first to make sure you have your ducks in a row, but I believe it takes a special issuance medical. Don't quote me on it though.
I got my Class I medical 2 days ago. Its really not that tough as what I had expected.
Aadrit what about the vision, was it hard ?
Do you need a perfect bmi
what about urine test if you smoke pot
I have ADHD and a Mild Aortic Stenosis and never had issue with my heart. Never had any surgeries or medications. Will I still get disqualified or no?
I'm not much of a DR and I don't even pretend to be one on RUclips. Do an AME consult first for sure.
Interesting, Thanks for the video!
will my friend face with THC in urine test? Pls need answer asap
They didn't test me but I would say don't bother. If you cant put down weed for fly then you shouldn't be flying. If they want to use the excuse that it helps they're mental state then they really shouldn't be flying. Danger to their self and public.
Using any drugs when flying, legal or illegal, can effect judgment and reaction times. So, in the hopes you're joking, they don't tests for THC. There is a pee test though that I didn't include, but should be in the description.
@@flywiththeguys So the pee test is mandatory? and if the result came out stating that there is THC in their body, meaning that person has recently used marijuana, will it considered a fail for the medical exam?
@@bintran5752 They don't test for THC. They are testing for sugar or protein, indicators of possible diabetes or kidney disease.
If you have Hugh blood pressure but controlled with meds.... does that disqualify?
Not sure. I would consult an AME on that one for sure. I believe there are some medications that are allowed, but don't quote me on it.
I had vertigo once before years ago when I was young. Only lasted a day and Never had it since. Would this be an automatic disqualification?
Unsure on that one. From what I'm reading as long as you're not on medications or have an official diagnosis that you have vertigo there may not be much of a problem. I would for sure do an AME consultation first though.
What if I have Color deficiency? Can’t see some Colors.
Still possible, but do a consult for sure first.
I am red green colorblind so could I pass this exam?
Have a consultation with the AME first. I know several colorblind pilots.
Great video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Oh man I love the intro
Is there a separate requirement for flying a sea plane?
Nameless Not to my knowledge. Medical rules fall under the same group and private.
Are there any colour alternatives for people who can see colour just struggle with the standard circle colour chart?
I believe there are options. I know a few colorblind pilots.
Informative... thank you!!
No problem!
I'm 24. My ENTIRE life I have wanted to get my private pilot license and I easily fit all medical requirements but my eyes aren't the best. Together I see 20/40 no problem with my glasses, and I see about 20/40 in my left eye with my glasses on. But with my right eye I see about 20/70 if I remember correctly. Like I said, together they are corrected to 20/40 which is good enough to drive, but I'm not sure if my right eye will meet the requirements....
Tough question to answer. For sure a consult with an AME on it so you can get your ducks in a row. You may be able to get a 3rd medical certificate with a special issuance. As far as 2nd or 1st class, I don't know.
So having to take any injection for Diabetes, like just a small amount that is a 24 hour acting insulin, that is a disqualification?
Yea... I can't answer that question. Best to have a consultation with an AME if you're interested in becoming a pilot.
Thanks, will do. Great response time, I guess that comes with the job of being a pilot, lol!
I really do want to become a pilot. Have wanted to for many years, and now I have the time and money. I am feeling a little doubtful my dream will come to fruition, but, onwards and upwards!
@@jamesalvarez2528 Very cool! I would start with the consultation for sure then. If you go right in for certificate appointment, they have to accept or reject you on the spot. The consultation will allow you to get information without it being reported to the FAA. Once you have all the info, find out if its a possibility, and have all your documents ready, then go for the actual certificate appointment. Start here though, its directly from the FAA on the matter: www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/diabetes_med/
Thank you so much, I will let you know how this goes.
Will ADD Disqualify you?? I'm on meds but I don't act any different with or with out it
It can. I would do a AME consult first to make sure it's not going to be a problem. There are typically additional test that you would have to do. Heres a good article from AOPA on the subject. www.aopa.org/go-fly/medical-resources/health-conditions/mental-health/add-and-adhd
I have diabetes controlled by diet alone , can I still get my PPL?
Possibly. Do an AME consult first for sure.
Can I still become a private pilot with ADHD?
You can, but it's a process and depends on a lot of things. If you want to fly without having to get a medical, check out the sport pilot certificate.
If the distant vision in one eye (with correction) is 6/9 and other 9/9, would it disqualify me from getting a Class 1 Medical?
Not sure what your numbers mean as far as correction goes. Sounds like you're outside the US, which is what my information is primary for. 1st Class Medical is different for different countries, so you may what to check what they are for yours. However, here are the guidelines for the US: www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/standards/
Yes, with correction you are supposed to have 9/9. Without correction it's quite liberal, but you will have problems if you have +- 3 dioptres
Sir I have -7D in the right eye and -2D in the left eye but with specs I have can see 20/20 with both eyes and I can see 20/40 with the right eye (-7 D). -7D because I've done a surgery before. The regulation said that the myopia don't have to go over -6 but I don't know in one eye or both? What do you think is there any chance to pass medical 1?
That would be a good question for an AME. Here are their guidelines: www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/standards/
I just registered and did my application what do I do next? Also the website you linked about finding a AME examiner I can’t seem to use it
Follow up to this I only seem to find 1st class examiners which is the 3rd class?
The website is a pain to use. You can google search for an AME as well, but if you're registered you just need to setup an appointment.
I went to the website and can't find out if I can get a medical if I have COPD and emphysema. I know that is not what you do.
There is a lot involved with that, but the outlook look is positive. I would recommend a consult with an AME prior to going for your 3rd Class Medical to see what steps you need to take. It will require supported documents from other doctors, which is why the consult would be your best bet. The FAA approves medical certificates for people with these conditions case by case, so it will be a long drawn out process.
are AME the same thing as a DOT? like can i get my medical card for my CDL from the same person who dose AME or would DOT take an AME?
No. An AME is designated by the FAA and has access to their systems for verification. DOT for CDL does not.
I thought that there were height and weight requirements
Not to my knowledge. I know they have restrictions in the armed forces. But for general aviation, you can lower the seat and scoot it back if your tall. If your overweight you can still fly as long as you adhere to weigh and balance restrictions of the aircraft.
@@flywiththeguys Thanks!
with Legally blind one eye, is it an automatic disqualified for medical exam??
Nope! Check this out! www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/app_process/exam_tech/et/31-34/mv/
Will antidepressants prevent me from achieving a 3rd Class Certificate?
Thats a good question for an AME. It can come down to the reason you were on antidepressants.
I was just denied today for a low dose of welbutrin. There are only 4 authorized antidepressants... Celexa, Lexapro, Zoloft, and one I can't recall. Very disappointing..
Sorry to hear about this. But, thank you for adding this information here. I really appreciate it.
@@timkern1 Maybe Talk to your doctor about switching to one of those?..I am considering just doing sport pilot or switching to one of those.
@@wespeterson9550 I'm considering switching up to something else. I'm having a hard time finding out hiw long I need to be off welbutrin, when I can be re-examined, etc. Until then, I'm looking into a sports license, which requires no medical check. The downside is you can only fly a two-seater that weighs no more than 1320 lb, and only during the daytime. The two flight schools in my area do not have sports planes to train with. The frustration is that there are probably loads of pilots that have untreated or unreported depression or anxiety. At least I'm taking taking control of my situation and keeping everything under control.
What if I have a pacemaker which controls my heart can I still pass?
possible, but a lot of hoops to jump through. Checkout these requirements when you see the AME, but you can also become a sport pilot, no medical required! - www.faa.gov/ame_guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/pacemaker
@@flywiththeguys I already have a private license from years ago. I haven’t flown since the late eighties due to life changes. I thought it would be cool to get back into it again.
what if you're diabetic but totally under control? this has always been a concern of mine.
Totally possible. CHeck out this article - www.aopa.org/go-fly/medical-resources/health-conditions/endocrine-system/diabetes-diet-and-oral-medication
@@flywiththeguys but that says oral medication, whereas i take one pill and 2 shots of insulin every day - which is my fear that if you take insulin you can't pass the medical.
very broadly speaking .... with Type 1, almost certainly disqualified .... with Type 2, a maybe, depending on how well controlled
@@The_Temple i'm controlled type 2 which is why i'm hopeful and thanks for your reply!
can you pass it if you cant see far distances clearly without using your glasses
Cant really say. This is what the DRs go off of though - www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/standards/
@@flywiththeguys thanks
im 6,1 348lb on weight loss journey should i wait to take med cert or should i just do it since i have no actual medical issue
If you're not on any medications I don't see a problem, but I'm not an AME. You may have issues with weight and balance in smaller aircraft though. Not making a joke. Airplanes only have so much useful load, or weight it can carry. A small cessna 150 is somewhere between 450 and 500 lbs. So between you, your instructor, and fuel, you're probably not getting off the ground. A 172 should work though, they're closer to 850-950, but use more fuel so that has to be taken into consideration.
@@flywiththeguys thanks so much for the information man I appreciate it
You are probably a diabetic but don't know it.
I was sure I read that a private pilot license/cert doesnt expire. So, what happens if you do not get a medical exam every 2 or 5 years? Does this prohibit you from flying? Do you have to show current Medical cert each time u fly?
Well technically anyone could fly a plane and as long as nothing happens, no one would know. Same goes with the medical certificate. If you get reported or caught you can have your license suspended or permanently revoked. You don’t have to show it every time you fly, but you must maintain a valid medical certificate to legally fly, and to keep yourself and others around you safe.
The third class medical does expire. If you are under 40-years-old, the certificate expires in 5 years (60 months). If you are over 40, the certificate expires in 2 years (24 months). You will have to visit your AME for a renewal exam prior to the expiration. You are required to have on your person your valid and current medical certificate each time you fly as pilot-in-command (PIC). It's like driving a car without a license. Sure, you might get away with it, but if you get caught, there are serious consequences.
So, I passed the written for the Private Pilots License written exam about 10 years ago but failed the health exam because I was taking insomnia medication. I haven't taken insomnia medication since, and as this was my intended career it really hurt... can I ever reapply?
That is a question for an AME, but I believe as long as you're not on any medications it can be cleared up and you can start flying again. As far as the written, you'll have to take that again. The score was only good for 24 months.
@@flywiththeguys thanks for the info, I'll definitely be looking into that over the next year.
Whats the name of insomnia medication if you don’t mind me asking?
@@freeflyford1 Ambien. Again though, haven't taken anything in over 10 years for insomnia.
Would clinical depression disqualify me though I'm on Medication
There is a lot involved to answer that question, and I'm not qualified to do so. Here is a link that may help - www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/app_process/exam_tech/item47/amd/antidepressants/ Best bet though, contact an AME for a consultation to find out.
what if u cant see the numbers inside the color bubbles?
I hear it's still possible to get a medical certificate. I would talk with an AME about it before going for the real thing.
@@flywiththeguys i heard of those glasses for color blind people too, wouldn't that fall under prescription, worst case scenario?? & thank you!! i certainly will.
I tried the search for an AME and it went no where, like nothing happened. now what?
The link still works, but it takes a bit for the search to load. Once it does you select select AME from the drop down and start with your country and State. Click the HIMS Button and then search. This will provide you with a list of AME's in your state. Then you can look for one close by. BUT, I've found that not all AME's are on this list. You can do a google search for one in your area as well. I should make a video on this...
Sounds about the same as my CDL DOT medical exam
Probably similar for safety purposes.
@@flywiththeguys yes I think so. seems legit
can you improve your eyesight? Without glasses and operation?
I'm not qualified to answer that question. =)
@@flywiththeguys thought so, but asked just in case, since there was a Marine Corps Top Gun pilot selling a ppilot training program and claiming he bought a program to improve his eyesight to 20/20 by doing some daily activities with the eyes. So, I just wondered if you knew something similar, since you are also pilots
Omg I’m scared I have mild hearing loss in my right ear and i’m worried it’s gonna ground me
I know several people with hearing issues, it shouldn't be a problem. I know a guy whos an airline pilot and deaf in one ear.
What is different about 1st and 2nd
They're required for different types of flying. 2nd class for commercial flying, and 1st for airline (in a nut shell) BUT, there are a few more requirements for each class, as well as how long they last for. Age plays a part in it too.
if in italy i don't pass the colour exam i have any possibility to do the third class in america?
No idea how it works if you've been denied medical certificates in other countries. Sorry I cant be of more help.
Do they drug test? I have smoked marijuana in the last 30 days and am taking my medical exam soon and am worried that they will drug test. Please advise.
Not to my knowledge. The pee test is for diabetes I believe.
@@flywiththeguys thank you!
Do they ask for proof of up-to-date eye prescription?
Nope. They just do a quick eye test making sure you have at least 20/40 vision. If you have to wear glasses, take them with you. If you wear contacts, just say so. They'll put down you require corrective lenses on your medical certificate. No big deal!
Fly With The Guys thank you!!
So if you’re colorblind slightly you can’t pass?
Not true. I know several pilots who are colorblind. Not sure what hoops they jumped through, but one of them just cant fly at night.
What if you have had a bout of vertigo before? Does that disqualify you?
Depends on why you had it and if its a persisting problem. I had a friend that didn't know he would have it until he started flying at a flight school. He ended up having to drop out. I would recommend talking to your DR or going on a discovery flight to see if you have the problem in flight.
What if you're diabetic type 2? Will that disqualify you?
Not right away. The FAA has been relaxing requirements for diabetics recently. Check the AOPA for more detials on that one.
Plan on starting flight school in a month. But I have a tattoo from my elbow to about an inch above my wrist bone. Obviously I would wear long sleeves while on the job but will this stop me from being hired by air lines? Any advice is appreciated thanks
That question has a mixed bag of answers. All I can tell you is that most crew members wear long sleeves on the job. Some airlines won’t care if they are covered up, others will. Where I dont have a direct answer, contact a few regional and major airlines and see what they say.
Wyatt Johnson Check out Rachel Dutch’s videos, she discusses this. She’s working for an airline, and has arm tattoos.
Am I allowed to be 420 friendly ? Is a drug test part of the exam ? Or is it like a drivers license where I can be free aslong as I’m not behind the wheel ?
Unfortunately no. It’s part of the FAA questions for the medical exam. They haven’t relaxed the rules and I don’t seem them doing it. They’re really strict on substances of all types.