I really do understand that progress, in any operation or facility, is inevitable. I also know that CNC machining has been around for decades. But, watching your CNC milling going upon it’s appointed and programmed tasks, reminds this 81 year-old Engineer that, although progress is inevitable; one does not really have to enjoy the ‘March of Time’. I have watched your videos for years, and have always appreciated the fact that watching a true craftsman at work, on any of the processes you have shown over the years, is better than watching many of the so-called movies available today. I understand that you wish to master a completely different way of working, and show your audience how you progress: but, for this old man, give me hands, and eyes, and the experience of a lifetime.
Dude, I built a CNC router a while back, mainly for doing wood work and thin aluminum. I have learned G-code and I'm 70 years old. You, with a sponge like brain, will pick this stuff up pretty quickly, my friend. Once you learn it, you will think of all sorts of things you can do with it and with that will come products you can make money on.... Hang in there!
So basically what you are saying is you've fastened your Ryobi drill to a vice with the wire from a coat hanger and calls this a CNC machine? I think someone forgot to take their medication.
I have to admit, fast, easy and looks great. Still enjoy your manual machining, but your learning to use a cnc, just another step forward. So happy for you.
Man, i'm really happy for you! i am a Mech+EE engineer and a hobbyist machinist, but i learnt heaps of things from you and Keith. i'd like to say Thanks and to wish you many happy hours and successful jobs with these machines and the old ones. Best regards, Ivan from Bulgaria :)
Great to see you learning CNC. Try and choose stock that you can do full depth in a finish pass in one go, then when you flip it, only the top hat is removed. Great job 👏
Thinking that a CNC machine is easy is foolish Thinking. It's like a lot of other procedures to complete a task. Prep is the most time consuming process, but the most important. You always have great videos and content.
If you want to get rid of that step on the OD... OP1 go deeper when milling the OD, the OP2 side should only need Face and chamfer. Also saves time. Just a helpful hint from a CNC guy. Even if your jaws were perfect, when cutting the OD in both OPs you still run the risk of getting a step. Great video cant wait for more content!
This video reminded me of a conversation I had with my boss years ago. I am a a tool &cutter grinder for over fifty years. I had about four years experience at the time. He said: I have never ground a tool in my life but I have seen it done so much I am sure I could take the handles of the machine and make a good tool. I didn't argue with him as there was no point. He was one of the dumbest bosses I ever had.
So close... I was expecting a positive outcome and a statement like "I have never ground a tool in my life but I have seen it done so much that I know what the best guys need to do the job. I'm going to give you what you need, if you think you need something more, tell me and we'll figure it out. It's your job to make the tools, mine to make sure you have everything to do them well, do them quickly and do them efficiently."
My local school system has partnered w a tool manufacturer to teach CNC as a high school trade class series. The Kids start as freshmen and all the way through they have classes for them. Covid set back the opening and it just now has its first class. The system added many other trades classes too. Glad to see the trades being taught to the young folks.
So proud of you Adam this is huge! It is a little like learning a foreign language going from manual machines to computer controlled machines. They both have their place still because of the time it takes to set up a computer controlled machine.. but once you are more familiar with the programming it will become faster and just second nature like when you are using a manual machine. I hope you keep learning and can use the machine to its full potential because they are quite amazing. It is great to see a company so willing to work with you and help you out, it makes good sense from their perspective because it gives them name recognition from the RUclips videos. Remember to not get frustrated and stay dedicated, and it will pay off big time. Good luck!
I always run my program 2" above the part to make sure I didn't do anything wrong. I've screwed up on my "Z" axis one time too many. You're doing great Adam!
Adam be careful you may end up spoiling yourself with these new machines lol. Its great to see your shop going next level. You do amazing work and i am sure it is well known among your customer base. Keep em coming brother.
It's real nice to see Adam move into the CNC age. If I have a tip for anyone who got a new CNC (other than getting the tool/part probe) is making a tool probe cover...Chips can be mean to them when machining at full force and the tips aren't torqued enough to prevent them from loosening when blasted with chips
I agree, I have a little tupperware dish that I put over my Renishaw Tool Setter when not in use. When I need to set tools I just remove it. I think keeping the chips and coolant off of the tool setter as much as possible is a good thing.😊
PS: I also see your programed moves are a bit jittery and jaggy. That's either a CAM settings thing or you could hopefully set a controller path deviation tolerance. In my experience even just a 0.03mm tolerance on even the tightest optimized hand programmed part will make a huge difference in both quality and especially machining speed (easily a 20% reduction in cycle time), and whenever I tried to find the error in the parts it usually just wasn't there (I think it was most evident on rapid positioning moves and not actual cutting feeds, despite having cut finished parts at up to 15m/min feed rate with a side milling cutter)
Congratulations Adam, on your 'first' project! Everything has a 'learning curve' , and you are doing a good job straightening yours out. Your skillset is taking a giant leap forward.
I used to program and run a Fadal cnc. Started with software generated code but soon discovered the wonders of manually programming and how I can use dedicated cycles and variables to turn a 12.000 lines program to a mere 30 lines of code. Fun times! Good luck with your learning and lots of fun!
Wow, what a beauty of a machine and a fun project. The soft jaws came out great. Wilton wants $255 for new jaws now. Not that long ago I paid $55. Prices of tooling is getting crazy. But seeing the process makes me a little more comfortable paying for quality. Great camera work too.
There are hundreds of machine makers & machine tool accessorizes that it will blow your mind. The last one I went to was in 1987 then in & 1983 which I loved .
I am amazed at that Cnc mill! You had a small boo boo but we all learn by experience! I am just a hobbyist with my machine but I oick up a lot from your videos! Thank you!
Adam, I use my CNC for wood but the principle is the same. What i do when i install a fixture or vise, is to run a finish pass along the fixed vise edge to get everything perfect. Great video. I am so Jealous!!! that is some really nice equipment.
Measuring a tiny distance (like a hole) and calculating a big distance based on it will also multiply all measurement errors you had. Either measure the bigger distances, or at least both holes and calculate the part based of that.
Hey Adam an older machinist showed me when engraving with those 90 degree engravers, if you re run the program with the Spindle in reverse it deburrs the engraving perfectly, I've use that tip ever since and it works amazing
Wow - you mentioned needing to change the shutter speed on the camera. I was blown away by the chips flying just the way it was! Very good process, very good video. Thanks Adam!!
Fantastic video ADAM! Always learn so much from you! Very happy for you, love your new shop! Making your DAD Proud!🙏 Have yourself a Time in my hometown, Chicago! Always watch your “six”. Chicago has changed a lot my friend!😇👍💙
I enjoy all aspects of your tools and channel, like you I love to learn every type of machining I can, CNC is such a fun and interesting venture that I've been involved in for the last 4 years. Some people just refuse to learn anything other than old school ways. Ignore the haters and keep on keeping on with all the different things like you have always shown.
Thanks for SHARING your learning journey with us Adam! Takes a humble man to show his mistakes and accept them! That's HOW you LEARN. Great lesson for beginners! Love this series.
A drilled hole is not the best feature to probe off of. There could be too much deviation on location. If you want to use a through hole to probe, bore it or interpolate it. Matching a profile front to back is difficult. You want to cut the full profile in one op if you can.
Excellent and congrats that you made a much less error than I did on my first booboo. I missed one detail in my programming and cut into one of my material clamps. Luckily it was aluminum and a carbide cutter. I still use that clamp and it reminds every time I use mine. We all do it.
Man oh man, when Adam's old equipment at the home shop gets wind he is out fraternizing, at night, with these new CNC hotties, they are going to be MAD!
Hi Adam, something I resigned myself to is that if you're using the tophat method, just deck that top material off an accept it's going to be wasted $. It's better to order another 200 thoug of material than mess around getting that alignment just right, in practice you'll never get a machinists match
There's a video record of the flaw and it's in Adam's memory. He could braze up the hole and refinish the part. There's no need for a physical souvenir.
Hey Adam...i have found it's best to mill down to thickness on 1st op..then when u flip over for second op you are just facing to size thickness...just something to think about so you dont have to worry about blending edges...not only could it be xy locations..but could also be how tight you close the clamps!! Great job on your first project btw!! Keep on slinging chips!!
One more point. You should be using the shortest length holders you can for the job. Those long holders for milling will cause excessive fretting on your holders and spindle taper.
Great video! Congrats on your achievement. I am a retired Toolmaker from South Africa and really enjoy your educational approach. All the best on your new journey as an master artisan.
Thanks for passing on the technical lessons Adam, but also showing how to try new things and stretch outside your comfort zone. I’m really bad at that. Much appreciated.
Yes probing the outside would be the way to go. You can machine the edges close to finish size then probe the outside for the finish cut then you will have a nice blend , granted your probe is also running true.
The frame rate for the first part was perfect. When the first end mill was doing those perimeter cuts, the chips coming off looked like it was a computer generated video. This machine looks like a badass unit. Neat to see a fixture table in a cnc machine, Saunders is definitely onto something with those, t-slots can be really limiting.
The trick for second op like that is to not repeat any contours from the first op. Any time you have a second or third setup, the tolerance is gonna stack up. For example, say, on the first op your tolerance is ±.0005. Then factor in some tolerances for the vice, say .0005. Then the total tolerance on the second op is up to .0015. So, there's your little parting line. What I would do for this vice jaw, to make it perfect; is to face off completely the protruding flange and then just chamfer the perimeter and the holes.
probing both holes probably gives a more accurate position in the hole which itself probably has some error in the walls with a straight through drill op, then you can also learn about getting fancy and have the machine apply a correction transform which adjusts all the dimensions to remove the error no matter how wonky the part is in the vice.
You need to do a video making the same part manually and on the CNC, and compare your manual operations to the CNC operations. Would also be interested in the time difference for manual machining and CNC including the programming time.
Good job Adam, once you get a little bit cnc experience you would write a program that the second operation would not require a perfect alignment. But in the world of cnc no two cnc machinists will do the same.
The challenge with the mod vice is the exact position will change depending on how tight you get it. At least on a Kurt vice you can use a torque wrench to hit the same point every time provided you have the same amount of material to bite on to. The other trick is to use thicker stock, so your side walls are completely machined in op 1 and then in op 2 you are only facing the part.
Adam, great video. Really cool to see the excitement as you learn CNC. Since I'm a CNC guy, a tip I can offer you is if you have the option to start your contour on a corner instead of mid-point the entry and exit point will be virtually invisible. How are you liking the mod vise so far. I have a pair coming soon, can't wait to try them out. I have learned a lot about conventional machining watching your video's and it feels good to share what I have learned over the years with you.
Hey Adam. Great to see you getting into CNC. I had very, very similar experienced when I got my first CNC machine. A couple of things I learned are indicating the part is the moist critical thing, for me especially the Z axis. The little mistake you showed was all too common when I started. I bought the SMW plate and mod vises and LOVE them. They make it much easier in X and Y, but Z is always the tougher one. One thing that may help: I found the tool was not always seating fully in the spindle when the machine was new and I had to adjust it. That gave me some infuriating gotchas the fittest little while until I figured it out. Last, a suggestion for remembering the conversational steps: video yourself doing it then you can always go back. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Cool, glad to hear you mention Fusion 360. The conversational programing is okay, but really only utilizes the basic capabilities of the machine and machinist. Looking forward to future projects... 🙂
So cool Adam! Keep kicking ass!! I left my last CNC machine behind back in 2008 and I miss it everyday. My background is architectural Millwork. Once you get the hang of that machine you're going to make that thing sing! I look forward to watching your progress👍👍👍
It's not really that different than understanding how a clock or a manual transmission can translate a simple movement into a complex set of movements. It's just that the gears are all 'virtual' and their sizes and configurations can be changed very rapidly. I'm an 'in betweener' generationally - a very late 'Boomer'. So I started out as a car mechanic, but saw the first computers in action and realized how what was being done could be done differently. I made a career of 'bridging the gap' between the old-timers and new-timers.
Seeing vise jaws without a single scratch on them is kind of unsettling! Great learning project! Can't wait for a CNC contest between you and This Old Tony ;)
The vice tramming line up issue is why it's common to make OP2 on part like this a deck and chamfer operation. The deck doesn't care about alignment in the dimensions in questions, and the chamfers will work as long as it's close "enough". You'd need to get thicker stock though (and deck of a minimal amount in OP1).
Shorten up on your stick out Adam. It gives me great pain to see an extra .75 stick out you don’t need. Greatly reduces tool life and gives you a worse finish. Also gives you more taper
He may not need the length for these parts, but will for others. They're one off parts. You don't remove tools from the tool changer and adjust the depth for every single little job you do. You use the tools in the changer how they are. The sticky is inconvenient for tool wear when it's only a couple parts and in brass.
@@littlejackalo5326 that’s not true. It takes 2 minutes to adjust a tool and re touch off that is just lazy thinking. Especially when you have a tool probe.. that type of thinking will get you fired in any modern CNC shop. Real machinist supervisors want to see you not skip any corners
To perfect jaws, you could use thicker material, and only facemill and chamfer for operation nr.2. Nice to see you getting into cnc after all these years :)
Nice job, Adam. Your adventures into CNC programming and machining will be fun to watch. I have a Haas TM1 and a Haas TL1 in my home shop. Those 2 machines have greatly increased my capability. I’m currently modifying racing shocks for a local race shop. It’s quite fun and rewarding. Best of Luck!
If you don’t want a line on op 2, let’s say your finish part thickness is .500, machine the profile down at least .510, and when you flip it to face off the excess you Won’t have to use the endmill and you will have a seamless part without any transitioning. This is standard in the cnc world.
@@swedishpsychopath8795 why is that? It makes your part look better, and makes everything more accurate, of course this only applies to parts that have all the features on the OP1 side like soft jaws is what I’m referring to. I meant to say it’s standard for soft jaws here in the USA..
I love this so much. You know, if you have a problem and show how you solve it you will probably get a lot of traffic because, as a green cnc machinist(about 2 years experience) i OFTEN go to RUclips to look for solutions and there is not a lot of content for problem solving cnc issues. There are some great channels, but a lot of the time it's hard to find exactly what you need. Also, wait until you get comfortable running one of a part and then you decide to run say 3 at one time. It feels so good to think of ways to save time/effort and then execute them 😁.
Adam you really go out of your way to make sure we get the best view of your work. we probably get a better view than you do. thanks for that. wow you have come a long way .
like a lot of other people are saying, I love your videos, even though im no machinist!!!!! but you have some really nice brand new machines, and you really need the upgrading to run a few of those machines. Great job!!!!!
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I really do understand that progress, in any operation or facility, is inevitable. I also know that CNC machining has been around for decades.
But, watching your CNC milling going upon it’s appointed and programmed tasks, reminds this 81 year-old Engineer that, although progress is inevitable; one does not really have to enjoy the ‘March of Time’.
I have watched your videos for years, and have always appreciated the fact that watching a true craftsman at work, on any of the processes you have shown over the years, is better than watching many of the so-called movies available today.
I understand that you wish to master a completely different way of working, and show your audience how you progress: but, for this old man, give me hands, and eyes, and the experience of a lifetime.
Wow, never realized you could do that with them. AVE uses his for snapping carbide.
Dude, I built a CNC router a while back, mainly for doing wood work and thin aluminum. I have learned G-code and I'm 70 years old. You, with a sponge like brain, will pick this stuff up pretty quickly, my friend. Once you learn it, you will think of all sorts of things you can do with it and with that will come products you can make money on.... Hang in there!
So basically what you are saying is you've fastened your Ryobi drill to a vice with the wire from a coat hanger and calls this a CNC machine? I think someone forgot to take their medication.
@@swedishpsychopath8795 Last time I looked my coat hangers didn't talk G-Code, if yours do I would go easy that medications yourself.
@@originalmianos LOL - I was just joking. I'm sure he made a fully operable CNC machine with G-code capabilities.
I use my CNC often. I like the fact that, I can hit the start button and,do something else while a long program is running.
I have to admit, fast, easy and looks great. Still enjoy your manual machining, but your learning to use a cnc, just another step forward. So happy for you.
Man, i'm really happy for you! i am a Mech+EE engineer and a hobbyist machinist, but i learnt heaps of things from you and Keith. i'd like to say Thanks and to wish you many happy hours and successful jobs with these machines and the old ones. Best regards, Ivan from Bulgaria :)
Great to see you learning CNC.
Try and choose stock that you can do full depth in a finish pass in one go, then when you flip it, only the top hat is removed.
Great job 👏
Thinking that a CNC machine is easy is foolish Thinking. It's like a lot of other procedures to complete a task.
Prep is the most time consuming process, but the most important.
You always have great videos and content.
If you want to get rid of that step on the OD... OP1 go deeper when milling the OD, the OP2 side should only need Face and chamfer. Also saves time. Just a helpful hint from a CNC guy. Even if your jaws were perfect, when cutting the OD in both OPs you still run the risk of getting a step. Great video cant wait for more content!
This video reminded me of a conversation I had with my boss years ago. I am a a tool &cutter grinder for over fifty years. I had about four years experience at the time. He said: I have never ground a tool in my life but I have seen it done so much I am sure I could take the handles of the machine and make a good tool. I didn't argue with him as there was no point. He was one of the dumbest bosses I ever had.
So close... I was expecting a positive outcome and a statement like "I have never ground a tool in my life but I have seen it done so much that I know what the best guys need to do the job. I'm going to give you what you need, if you think you need something more, tell me and we'll figure it out. It's your job to make the tools, mine to make sure you have everything to do them well, do them quickly and do them efficiently."
My local school system has partnered w a tool manufacturer to teach CNC as a high school trade class series. The Kids start as freshmen and all the way through they have classes for them. Covid set back the opening and it just now has its first class. The system added many other trades classes too. Glad to see the trades being taught to the young folks.
Wish I went to that school
Very happy to hear the trades are being relevant
So proud of you Adam this is huge! It is a little like learning a foreign language going from manual machines to computer controlled machines. They both have their place still because of the time it takes to set up a computer controlled machine.. but once you are more familiar with the programming it will become faster and just second nature like when you are using a manual machine. I hope you keep learning and can use the machine to its full potential because they are quite amazing. It is great to see a company so willing to work with you and help you out, it makes good sense from their perspective because it gives them name recognition from the RUclips videos. Remember to not get frustrated and stay dedicated, and it will pay off big time. Good luck!
The way it arcs those chips off the end mill is crazy and an amazing sight. Great work Adam.
You are very brave and open Adam to share with us your first steps. I look forward to seeing your development with these machines..
I always run my program 2" above the part to make sure I didn't do anything wrong. I've screwed up on my "Z" axis one time too many. You're doing great Adam!
YT has many videos of "Z-Axis" infamous disasters :)
Adam be careful you may end up spoiling yourself with these new machines lol. Its great to see your shop going next level. You do amazing work and i am sure it is well known among your customer base. Keep em coming brother.
It's real nice to see Adam move into the CNC age. If I have a tip for anyone who got a new CNC (other than getting the tool/part probe) is making a tool probe cover...Chips can be mean to them when machining at full force and the tips aren't torqued enough to prevent them from loosening when blasted with chips
I agree, I have a little tupperware dish that I put over my Renishaw Tool Setter when not in use. When I need to set tools I just remove it. I think keeping the chips and coolant off of the tool setter as much as possible is a good thing.😊
PS: I also see your programed moves are a bit jittery and jaggy. That's either a CAM settings thing or you could hopefully set a controller path deviation tolerance. In my experience even just a 0.03mm tolerance on even the tightest optimized hand programmed part will make a huge difference in both quality and especially machining speed (easily a 20% reduction in cycle time), and whenever I tried to find the error in the parts it usually just wasn't there (I think it was most evident on rapid positioning moves and not actual cutting feeds, despite having cut finished parts at up to 15m/min feed rate with a side milling cutter)
Congratulations Adam, on your 'first' project! Everything has a 'learning curve' , and you are doing a good job straightening yours out. Your skillset is taking a giant leap forward.
I used to program and run a Fadal cnc. Started with software generated code but soon discovered the wonders of manually programming and how I can use dedicated cycles and variables to turn a 12.000 lines program to a mere 30 lines of code. Fun times!
Good luck with your learning and lots of fun!
Wow, what a beauty of a machine and a fun project. The soft jaws came out great. Wilton wants $255 for new jaws now. Not that long ago I paid $55. Prices of tooling is getting crazy. But seeing the process makes me a little more comfortable paying for quality. Great camera work too.
There are hundreds of machine makers & machine tool accessorizes that it will blow your mind. The last one I went to was in 1987 then in & 1983 which I loved .
I am amazed at that Cnc mill! You had a small boo boo but we all learn by experience! I am just a hobbyist with my machine but I oick up a lot from your videos! Thank you!
The CNC is amazing. My dad was a machinist back in the 1950’s and 1960’s. This would have amazed him.
Man I'm totally spoiled by the filming. From the " old school machining" to the CNC. The filming is still top notch. Thanks
Adam, I use my CNC for wood but the principle is the same. What i do when i install a fixture or vise, is to run a finish pass along the fixed vise edge to get everything perfect. Great video. I am so Jealous!!! that is some really nice equipment.
Measuring a tiny distance (like a hole) and calculating a big distance based on it will also multiply all measurement errors you had. Either measure the bigger distances, or at least both holes and calculate the part based of that.
Proud of you man! You're already starting to pick it up.
Hey Adam an older machinist showed me when engraving with those 90 degree engravers, if you re run the program with the Spindle in reverse it deburrs the engraving perfectly, I've use that tip ever since and it works amazing
Wow - you mentioned needing to change the shutter speed on the camera. I was blown away by the chips flying just the way it was! Very good process, very good video. Thanks Adam!!
Watching you with new tools shows me what you're like at a great Christmas. And being old tech you are teaching me new stuff. Don't stop.
Thank you for taking us along for the ride inside the mill!
I'm so happy for you Adam! Anyone can see how happy and proud you are with this!
Wish I had something to be proud of. 😔
A timely word of encouragement is definitely something to be proud of so well done good sir!
Fantastic video ADAM! Always learn so much from you! Very happy for you, love your new shop! Making your DAD Proud!🙏
Have yourself a Time in my hometown, Chicago! Always watch your “six”. Chicago has changed a lot my friend!😇👍💙
Very cool video! I'm glad you included how the tool change works. Very nice!
I enjoy all aspects of your tools and channel, like you I love to learn every type of machining I can, CNC is such a fun and interesting venture that I've been involved in for the last 4 years. Some people just refuse to learn anything other than old school ways. Ignore the haters and keep on keeping on with all the different things like you have always shown.
I'm sure AVE is sheddding a tear. I can hear him already.... "They grow up so fast. I'm not crying..... you're crying!"
Thanks for SHARING your learning journey with us Adam! Takes a humble man to show his mistakes and accept them! That's HOW you LEARN. Great lesson for beginners! Love this series.
A drilled hole is not the best feature to probe off of. There could be too much deviation on location. If you want to use a through hole to probe, bore it or interpolate it. Matching a profile front to back is difficult. You want to cut the full profile in one op if you can.
I've watched so many of your videos I can visualize you going step by step manually machining these jaws. What a change for you.
Excellent and congrats that you made a much less error than I did on my first booboo. I missed one detail in my programming and cut into one of my material clamps. Luckily it was aluminum and a carbide cutter. I still use that clamp and it reminds every time I use mine. We all do it.
I think the soft jaws look amazing your definitely doing a better job than I could ever do. I wouldn’t even know where to start.
Adam I'm impressed with how you set everything up, as per your camera work and letting the job finish no jump cuts amazing
I could watch this all day long and never get bored.
NOTHING MORE SATISFYING THAN CREATING SOMETHING on your own...Good job but better in the future...You are willing to learn and attempt.....👏
Adam: That is so good for your first try at doing a project! congratulations
Man oh man, when Adam's old equipment at the home shop gets wind he is out fraternizing, at night, with these new CNC hotties, they are going to be MAD!
I'd certainly consider buying a set of Abom soft jaws for my Wilton. Once you get it dialed in let us know.
Your new shop is really something Adam, very well executed and great choices for beginning your new CNC adventures
Nice work. Awesome to see your evolution into CNC
Hi Adam, something I resigned myself to is that if you're using the tophat method, just deck that top material off an accept it's going to be wasted $. It's better to order another 200 thoug of material than mess around getting that alignment just right, in practice you'll never get a machinists match
Put the one with the plunge spot in the vise. That way long down the road when you you take them off or flip them, it will show itself as a reminder
There's a video record of the flaw and it's in Adam's memory. He could braze up the hole and refinish the part. There's no need for a physical souvenir.
Hey Adam...i have found it's best to mill down to thickness on 1st op..then when u flip over for second op you are just facing to size thickness...just something to think about so you dont have to worry about blending edges...not only could it be xy locations..but could also be how tight you close the clamps!! Great job on your first project btw!! Keep on slinging chips!!
There is no-one being born as a master in what he is doing. So practice makes the master.
Keep up love your videos 👍
Afterthought idea - Split the logo across the pair of soft jaws so when they come together they make the whole logo.
One more point. You should be using the shortest length holders you can for the job. Those long holders for milling
will cause excessive fretting on your holders and spindle taper.
to make that a perfect part, you would machine the whole depth plus .02 on the first side then just face mill to thickness and chamfer the back
Yup, all geometry besides thickness done on op 1. Then thickness and chamfer on Op 2.
Great video! Congrats on your achievement. I am a retired Toolmaker from South Africa and really enjoy your educational approach. All the best on your new journey as an master artisan.
Its been a blast watching you go down this journey!
Thanks for passing on the technical lessons Adam, but also showing how to try new things and stretch outside your comfort zone. I’m really bad at that. Much appreciated.
As far as presentation and content, I believe this to be your best episode ever. Just my opinion. Absolutely loved it. Good job as always had them
The mismatch on your edges is caused by the probing of your drilled holes, the holes postion are not ture to the outside geometry.
Probing on the outside would be better, but the base was in the way. I am sure there is a way to do it somehow
Yes probing the outside would be the way to go. You can machine the edges close to finish size then probe the outside for the finish cut then you will have a nice blend , granted your probe is also running true.
The frame rate for the first part was perfect. When the first end mill was doing those perimeter cuts, the chips coming off looked like it was a computer generated video. This machine looks like a badass unit. Neat to see a fixture table in a cnc machine, Saunders is definitely onto something with those, t-slots can be really limiting.
Amazing to see CNC-work on your channel. I'm glad you decide to learn a new world of machining. You are great.
The trick for second op like that is to not repeat any contours from the first op. Any time you have a second or third setup, the tolerance is gonna stack up. For example, say, on the first op your tolerance is ±.0005. Then factor in some tolerances for the vice, say .0005. Then the total tolerance on the second op is up to .0015. So, there's your little parting line. What I would do for this vice jaw, to make it perfect; is to face off completely the protruding flange and then just chamfer the perimeter and the holes.
probing both holes probably gives a more accurate position in the hole which itself probably has some error in the walls with a straight through drill op, then you can also learn about getting fancy and have the machine apply a correction transform which adjusts all the dimensions to remove the error no matter how wonky the part is in the vice.
Happy for you that you have all these new machines and constantly learning. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Enjoy the show coming up.
Shop is looking awesome brother
i love watching those chips just streaming off that cutter.
You need to do a video making the same part manually and on the CNC, and compare your manual operations to the CNC operations. Would also be interested in the time difference for manual machining and CNC including the programming time.
Sweet Adam , always fun watching and listening to you work !
Very nice! It's so much fun to watch the mill going through it's paces. Thanks for another great video.
Good job Adam, once you get a little bit cnc experience you would write a program that the second operation would not require a perfect alignment. But in the world of cnc no two cnc machinists will do the same.
Im really enjoying watching your shop grow
I can watch these machines all day.👍
The challenge with the mod vice is the exact position will change depending on how tight you get it. At least on a Kurt vice you can use a torque wrench to hit the same point every time provided you have the same amount of material to bite on to. The other trick is to use thicker stock, so your side walls are completely machined in op 1 and then in op 2 you are only facing the part.
Adam, great video. Really cool to see the excitement as you learn CNC. Since I'm a CNC guy, a tip I can offer you is if you have the option to start your contour on a corner instead of mid-point the entry and exit point will be virtually invisible. How are you liking the mod vise so far. I have a pair coming soon, can't wait to try them out. I have learned a lot about conventional machining watching your video's and it feels good to share what I have learned over the years with you.
Hey Adam. Great to see you getting into CNC. I had very, very similar experienced when I got my first CNC machine. A couple of things I learned are indicating the part is the moist critical thing, for me especially the Z axis. The little mistake you showed was all too common when I started. I bought the SMW plate and mod vises and LOVE them. They make it much easier in X and Y, but Z is always the tougher one. One thing that may help: I found the tool was not always seating fully in the spindle when the machine was new and I had to adjust it. That gave me some infuriating gotchas the fittest little while until I figured it out. Last, a suggestion for remembering the conversational steps: video yourself doing it then you can always go back. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Cool, glad to hear you mention Fusion 360. The conversational programing is okay, but really only utilizes the basic capabilities of the machine and machinist. Looking forward to future projects... 🙂
good job....nice shots at a frame rate that works....congratulations
I want one! I could watch that all day! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
So cool Adam! Keep kicking ass!! I left my last CNC machine behind back in 2008 and I miss it everyday. My background is architectural Millwork. Once you get the hang of that machine you're going to make that thing sing! I look forward to watching your progress👍👍👍
Since I was born in 1942, this is like magic: tell a machine something complicated to do and it does it, to tolerance. Sheesh.
It's not really that different than understanding how a clock or a manual transmission can translate a simple movement into a complex set of movements. It's just that the gears are all 'virtual' and their sizes and configurations can be changed very rapidly. I'm an 'in betweener' generationally - a very late 'Boomer'. So I started out as a car mechanic, but saw the first computers in action and realized how what was being done could be done differently. I made a career of 'bridging the gap' between the old-timers and new-timers.
Great video. My first exposure to an operational CNC machine. As the youngsters say…way cool!
Seeing vise jaws without a single scratch on them is kind of unsettling! Great learning project! Can't wait for a CNC contest between you and This Old Tony ;)
Hoping to see the American Pacemaker repair completed!
Don't hold your breath. Sad
That chip stream would look awesome in 60fps!
The vice tramming line up issue is why it's common to make OP2 on part like this a deck and chamfer operation. The deck doesn't care about alignment in the dimensions in questions, and the chamfers will work as long as it's close "enough". You'd need to get thicker stock though (and deck of a minimal amount in OP1).
Practice, practice and more practice. Is what it's going to take to become a master of the new equipment.
A wonderful new dimension to you machinist educating.
Shorten up on your stick out Adam. It gives me great pain to see an extra .75 stick out you don’t need. Greatly reduces tool life and gives you a worse finish. Also gives you more taper
He may not need the length for these parts, but will for others. They're one off parts. You don't remove tools from the tool changer and adjust the depth for every single little job you do. You use the tools in the changer how they are. The sticky is inconvenient for tool wear when it's only a couple parts and in brass.
@@littlejackalo5326 that’s not true. It takes 2 minutes to adjust a tool and re touch off that is just lazy thinking. Especially when you have a tool probe.. that type of thinking will get you fired in any modern CNC shop. Real machinist supervisors want to see you not skip any corners
To perfect jaws, you could use thicker material, and only facemill and chamfer for operation nr.2. Nice to see you getting into cnc after all these years :)
R/C Helicopters are fun to. Ha Ha😊
@@helicopterjohns Yes :)
How that scrubber removed a pound of material in 2 seconds.. kind of satisfying :D
I have to say the vise inside the machine that your holding the parts with is beautiful hahah that’s a really nice vise
Nice job, Adam. Your adventures into CNC programming and machining will be fun to watch. I have a Haas TM1 and a Haas TL1 in my home shop. Those 2 machines have greatly increased my capability. I’m currently modifying racing shocks for a local race shop. It’s quite fun and rewarding. Best of Luck!
Hi, Adam. What a great chance to learn new skills and procedures. I envy your new CNC machine. Just, WOW! Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
If you don’t want a line on op 2, let’s say your finish part thickness is .500, machine the profile down at least .510, and when you flip it to face off the excess you
Won’t have to use the endmill and you will have a seamless part without any transitioning. This is standard in the cnc world.
I beg to differ. In sweden you would've be fired on the spot for doing that.
@@swedishpsychopath8795 becaaaause? I do it. All my coworkers do it
@@swedishpsychopath8795 why is that? It makes your part look better, and makes everything more accurate, of course this only applies to parts that have all the features on the OP1 side like soft jaws is what I’m referring to. I meant to say it’s standard for soft jaws here in the USA..
I love this so much. You know, if you have a problem and show how you solve it you will probably get a lot of traffic because, as a green cnc machinist(about 2 years experience) i OFTEN go to RUclips to look for solutions and there is not a lot of content for problem solving cnc issues. There are some great channels, but a lot of the time it's hard to find exactly what you need. Also, wait until you get comfortable running one of a part and then you decide to run say 3 at one time. It feels so good to think of ways to save time/effort and then execute them 😁.
That was amazing to see it work so closely in. Have a great trip!
Adam you really go out of your way to make sure we get the best view of your work. we probably get a better view than you do. thanks for that. wow you have come a long way .
This is so rad Adam, very cool to watch. Thanks!
like a lot of other people are saying, I love your videos, even though im no machinist!!!!! but you have some really nice brand new machines, and you really need the upgrading to run a few of those machines. Great job!!!!!