@@mikeyrocks4274 Nah its nothing like that, she basically has a master affection stat that starts out every fight at level 1 and can increase up to level 10 depending on what you do with her in battle that does nothing but changes her NP animation *a bit* when its at lvl7 or above. This stat just straight up 0(and can never be increased) however if you picked her from a friend list
@@GachaLord Wtf were you smoking when you saw her np effects? The affection level is literally a power mod for her np (100% base np damage + 10% * per affection level). You also recieve extra effects at certain levels (instant-kill success up at 4, defense ignore and invul pierce at 7, and 50 crit stars at 10). Like I'm sorry if it sound like I'm being an asshat but using a support summer eresh is just straight up weaker than having your own at equal np levels. Even if yours is lower np level, being able to have a guaranteed ignore defense, invul pierce, and the level power mod really makes a difference. I don't think this is a good thing as it just means that even if a friend support has a fully maxed out space eresh, while you will still be doing big number because it's a maxed servant, it'll still be weaker just from not being your own.
-Same rarity -Same NP level -Same type (aoe, st, support) -Same level -Same Skill level -Can only trade 1 Servant each trade session -Master level limitation (ex: >= 100) -Master story progress limitation (can't trade story locked Servant to acc with uncleared a certain Singularity / Lostbelt) -Mashu, welfare, collab, & special FP Servants can't be traded -Time cooldown for a new servant to be tradable (ex: 2 months after being released) -Can't trade any Servant featured in the ongoing banner -Total login number limitation (ex: 50-100,101-500, 501-1000, and so on) -Trade amount limitation (ex: 3 trades per acc per year) -Can't trade with the same acc consecutively -Traded Servant can't be traded again With all of those it will minimize a throw away acc. But sure there will be some drama if it actually happens 😂 Yeah, you still can absolutely trade all maxed Nightingale with all maxed Castoria, yeah that looks fair 😂
Actually requiring trading for a same rarity servant same NP level servant would be smart. Cause in a throw away situation you’re still removing a servant from the game. You could also have a requirement of something like both must be the same of limited/story-locked/general pool servant.
Imo if you do that then you’re just limiting it to the point where the only people who’ll use it will be those ultra dedicated people that grind up ten alt accounts to trade stuff. You’ll also get people that essentially farm the game and offer the ‘servants for sale’. Like pay $100 and lose a random 5star to get a specific 5-Star you want. Which… honestly could be neat as a concept… but no way would it be allowed to happen in game. My suggestion would be two ways. First would be that you have to pay 15 paid quartz to trade a servant. Making it equivalent to a GSSR for both parties, except you get the exact servant you want and no chances with 10 other pulls. And you can only do it once/twice a year with a specific item or something. So even if you do farm up an account to get the servant you want, all you’ve really done is spent twice as much money and a bunch of effort for a GSSR that was an actual GSSR. Or heck, maybe even have the trade option outright ‘replace’ the GSSR if you choose to trade. Like, once you conduct the trade, the GSSR option disappears for that occasion, and vice versa. Second option would be it’s entirely randomized. You can put a servant in a capsule once per day. Any rarity, any level, any NP level, anything. At the end of the day, all the ‘capsules’ are swapped around. I think this way is good, because you’ll probably never get story locked or 4/5 Star servants. But hey maybe a Whale felt generous and you got Uber lucky! Also more realistically, there could be genuine utility in extra chances to get good 3 Star servants for newer players. Cu, Ushi, and Xu Fu standing out. They can trade in Benkei and… probably get another Benkei ten days in a row. But hey on their 11th they could get a Eurayle! That would be neat for a newcomer.
Trading is sweet and all, but it kind of misses the spirit of the summoning system in-universe: the Servants answered your summon *because* they saw and felt you're worthy to be their friend and Master.
The problem is easy to solve. Either give the players an item that's very late game exclusive and is very very rare to get via farming a certain node. or it can be via challenging events (like nero fest) as the final reward (but you can only get one on the event) that lets them trade a certain servant 1 time only. and this item only has an inv limit of 1. Per account so people can't hoard and stock up on the item, and limiting potential item abuse. Another solution would be i would to trade via item value system. Although i dont think this is very good because it can be abused, it is viable. because with this method you would need to trade a 5 star servant with another 5 star servant, the servants value might also be affected by their np lvl. For example: max np koyan cannot be traded with another servant that is not max np and can only have a valid trade if the other servant is either 1 np lvl lower/higher or the same. Or maybe just mix the 2 solutions i just said so the trading system is more secure. The trading system must also have a missclick prevention system, in which the proceed trade button cannot be clicked unless it is a valid trade. Or...... Hide it on a paywall.
There used to be a gacha years ago that would let you do this and it was wild, not too mention people scamming newbies and turning the whole thing into a disgusting market
trading mats is what we need. or putting them on a qp auction, because I sure as hell don't need 5k hero's proofs but I'm in qp hell working on my 120 Habertrot
I don’t burn the extra copies of the characters just in case something like this happens, or if they do (Please no Lasagna, I’m begging you), they raise the NP level beyond 5. And with everything that happened with the Servant Coins scandal, I’m glad I didn’t use them. Although I didn’t expect they would return them, so I kind of regret not using them to create "Free" grails. If it comes true, I have two copies of Ibuki Summer and I would like to exchange them for 1 Castoria and 1 Skadi Caster or any Husbando SSR. And Summer Gareth for Castotte if there are Masters interested.
Trading could work, there's plenty of limiters time on friends list, level of character, rarity exc exc exc If the Pokémon gacha game can do it fgo could they just won't just like battle skip
it'd have to be something like can trade at a certain level or login day and can only trade characters obtained with paid sq or something, only way id see it
Destiny of spirits for the vita was kinda like that. My favorite game ever tbh 😅. I was obsessed. I be on message boards all day looking to trade 🤦 but ya myst actually is 100% right. I had over 30 alt accounts in Destiny of spirits. Rarely would spend money, mostly just looked for trades online
Maybe trade only copies other than your first one? As in, you cannot trade unless you will still have a copy of the Servant. I really wish we could trade CEs, though.
What about using runescapes grand exchange and making it limited to one time only and same rarity servant. That way if they want np5 they'd have to roll for the rest.
Still wouldn't work, how much will they charge? Say 15 dollars per trade. People still would use their alt accounts to get np5 copies of their faves and spend 15 dollars, instead of hundreds of dollars, to trade them over.
I wouldn't be surprised seeing people hoarding Castorias for RMT, also I feel like there would be plenty of scammers targeting newer or more casual players.
Support list is basically lending out a unit. Aside summer ereshkigal she hates that and stays loyal
That's certainly one way to address her friend list debuff...
Anti NTR mechanic with a built in SIMP mechanic.
Peak FGO gameplay.
I don’t keep up with the game all too much, so you straight up can’t use a friends, you gotta get your own?
@@mikeyrocks4274 Nah its nothing like that, she basically has a master affection stat that starts out every fight at level 1 and can increase up to level 10 depending on what you do with her in battle that does nothing but changes her NP animation *a bit* when its at lvl7 or above.
This stat just straight up 0(and can never be increased) however if you picked her from a friend list
@@GachaLord Wtf were you smoking when you saw her np effects? The affection level is literally a power mod for her np (100% base np damage + 10% * per affection level). You also recieve extra effects at certain levels (instant-kill success up at 4, defense ignore and invul pierce at 7, and 50 crit stars at 10). Like I'm sorry if it sound like I'm being an asshat but using a support summer eresh is just straight up weaker than having your own at equal np levels. Even if yours is lower np level, being able to have a guaranteed ignore defense, invul pierce, and the level power mod really makes a difference. I don't think this is a good thing as it just means that even if a friend support has a fully maxed out space eresh, while you will still be doing big number because it's a maxed servant, it'll still be weaker just from not being your own.
Lol GSSR exists. Whales would just roll on GSSRs on multiple accounts then trade rather than spend hundreds on a single character on a single account
Just make GSSR are not tradeable then 😂 Lasengle be taking notes
@@reiiz9942we can create hundreds of clone then trading
-Same rarity
-Same NP level
-Same type (aoe, st, support)
-Same level
-Same Skill level
-Can only trade 1 Servant each trade session
-Master level limitation (ex: >= 100)
-Master story progress limitation (can't trade story locked Servant to acc with uncleared a certain Singularity / Lostbelt)
-Mashu, welfare, collab, & special FP Servants can't be traded
-Time cooldown for a new servant to be tradable (ex: 2 months after being released)
-Can't trade any Servant featured in the ongoing banner
-Total login number limitation (ex: 50-100,101-500, 501-1000, and so on)
-Trade amount limitation (ex: 3 trades per acc per year)
-Can't trade with the same acc consecutively
-Traded Servant can't be traded again
With all of those it will minimize a throw away acc. But sure there will be some drama if it actually happens 😂
Yeah, you still can absolutely trade all maxed Nightingale with all maxed Castoria, yeah that looks fair 😂
Actually requiring trading for a same rarity servant same NP level servant would be smart. Cause in a throw away situation you’re still removing a servant from the game. You could also have a requirement of something like both must be the same of limited/story-locked/general pool servant.
Imo if you do that then you’re just limiting it to the point where the only people who’ll use it will be those ultra dedicated people that grind up ten alt accounts to trade stuff. You’ll also get people that essentially farm the game and offer the ‘servants for sale’. Like pay $100 and lose a random 5star to get a specific 5-Star you want. Which… honestly could be neat as a concept… but no way would it be allowed to happen in game.
My suggestion would be two ways. First would be that you have to pay 15 paid quartz to trade a servant. Making it equivalent to a GSSR for both parties, except you get the exact servant you want and no chances with 10 other pulls. And you can only do it once/twice a year with a specific item or something. So even if you do farm up an account to get the servant you want, all you’ve really done is spent twice as much money and a bunch of effort for a GSSR that was an actual GSSR. Or heck, maybe even have the trade option outright ‘replace’ the GSSR if you choose to trade. Like, once you conduct the trade, the GSSR option disappears for that occasion, and vice versa.
Second option would be it’s entirely randomized. You can put a servant in a capsule once per day. Any rarity, any level, any NP level, anything. At the end of the day, all the ‘capsules’ are swapped around. I think this way is good, because you’ll probably never get story locked or 4/5 Star servants. But hey maybe a Whale felt generous and you got Uber lucky! Also more realistically, there could be genuine utility in extra chances to get good 3 Star servants for newer players. Cu, Ushi, and Xu Fu standing out. They can trade in Benkei and… probably get another Benkei ten days in a row. But hey on their 11th they could get a Eurayle! That would be neat for a newcomer.
Trading is sweet and all, but it kind of misses the spirit of the summoning system in-universe: the Servants answered your summon *because* they saw and felt you're worthy to be their friend and Master.
Ntr dodjishi is power UP¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just want more gameplay. New modes, new dailies. New gameplay style
The problem is easy to solve.
Either give the players an item that's very late game exclusive and is very very rare to get via farming a certain node.
or it can be via challenging events (like nero fest) as the final reward (but you can only get one on the event) that lets them trade a certain servant 1 time only. and this item only has an inv limit of 1. Per account so people can't hoard and stock up on the item, and limiting potential item abuse.
Another solution would be i would to trade via item value system. Although i dont think this is very good because it can be abused, it is viable. because with this method you would need to trade a 5 star servant with another 5 star servant, the servants value might also be affected by their np lvl.
For example: max np koyan cannot be traded with another servant that is not max np and can only have a valid trade if the other servant is either 1 np lvl lower/higher or the same.
Or maybe just mix the 2 solutions i just said so the trading system is more secure.
The trading system must also have a missclick prevention system, in which the proceed trade button cannot be clicked unless it is a valid trade.
Or...... Hide it on a paywall.
How about trading CEs instead? I really need one more copy of BG...
The question is what do you have that someone would be willing to trade a black grail for? I need royal icing and the taunt CE
I would gladly give you a bg if I could.
@@anubisgodess2353I'd trade for Fragment of 2030 or the new version of it for 2 extra copies of my BG.
@@anubisgodess2353I'm willing to trade my Black Keys (MLB!) for 1 Black Grail
I have like 14 poster girls. I'd make BANK on CE trading.😅
It ruins the master and servant thing if there is a trading system, might as well play pokemon..
Let's be real they can just gate keep this behind a pay wall and in their eyes problem solved.
It's weird once you trade someone's waifu and your waifu. It's NTE ...
I would love to trade certain characters with my friend because he's pulled characters I really want, but he doesn't care for and never uses q-q
skyloft theme in the background POG
It’s gonna be like Pokémon on the playground,like the card game version. That would be wild, if it happen
There used to be a gacha years ago that would let you do this and it was wild, not too mention people scamming newbies and turning the whole thing into a disgusting market
trading mats is what we need. or putting them on a qp auction, because I sure as hell don't need 5k hero's proofs but I'm in qp hell working on my 120 Habertrot
- People could sell ssrs for irl money in trading its fgover
I don’t burn the extra copies of the characters just in case something like this happens, or if they do (Please no Lasagna, I’m begging you), they raise the NP level beyond 5. And with everything that happened with the Servant Coins scandal, I’m glad I didn’t use them. Although I didn’t expect they would return them, so I kind of regret not using them to create "Free" grails. If it comes true, I have two copies of Ibuki Summer and I would like to exchange them for 1 Castoria and 1 Skadi Caster or any Husbando SSR. And Summer Gareth for Castotte if there are Masters interested.
Trading could work, there's plenty of limiters time on friends list, level of character, rarity exc exc exc
If the Pokémon gacha game can do it fgo could they just won't just like battle skip
it'd have to be something like can trade at a certain level or login day and can only trade characters obtained with paid sq or something, only way id see it
servant requirements for trading: same rarity and much be the same in terms of permanent, story and event.
We don't have this system, and I have a nearly level 100 Alt, which I only use to get FP on my main account.
Destiny of spirits for the vita was kinda like that. My favorite game ever tbh 😅. I was obsessed. I be on message boards all day looking to trade 🤦 but ya myst actually is 100% right. I had over 30 alt accounts in Destiny of spirits. Rarely would spend money, mostly just looked for trades online
Alternatively they can do a trading system with farming materials
Maybe trade only copies other than your first one? As in, you cannot trade unless you will still have a copy of the Servant.
I really wish we could trade CEs, though.
What about using runescapes grand exchange and making it limited to one time only and same rarity servant. That way if they want np5 they'd have to roll for the rest.
Make that you can trade matereal insteed
So I can get more Summer Sei’s if anyone has an extra copy?
Just chance piry to 600sq and make work across banners
I just want them to sell grail on davinci mana prism shop
No burning servant coin for grail doesnt count
Maybe if there was a cost like 50m qp and 30 quartz on both sides for each trade
What if they charge people to trade servants? That way they get money.
Still wouldn't work, how much will they charge? Say 15 dollars per trade. People still would use their alt accounts to get np5 copies of their faves and spend 15 dollars, instead of hundreds of dollars, to trade them over.
I wouldn't be surprised seeing people hoarding Castorias for RMT, also I feel like there would be plenty of scammers targeting newer or more casual players.
I don’t even know any Gacha that can trade units. Even if people could trade Units with the same NP Lvl, everyone could get a free NP3 Artoria.
What if they charged for the service of trading? You want to trade a servant, sure give them $20, You can trade what you want.
They really implemented Servant Trading before Dublicate Servant Use.😭😭😭
And here I invested for 2 Castoria and Koyan.
FGO trading would be great.