People acting like somehow Japan only exports media but infantilizes them like they don’t get any outside media at all. There’s like this weird orientalist idea that Japan and really East Asia as a whole is pristine and untouched by black culture when that’s just not true. Their rappers do black people cosplay constantly and so much of their music is R&B and now even Afropop inspired. They know what black people are they just choose not to look into what’s offensive or not. I do like seeing black and blasian gyaru’s reclaim b-gyaru and Yamanba gyaru though.
Thank you for practically explained why I was getting such an icky feeling with the way people were trying to infantilize Asians, but you hit it on the nail. I really do like how a lot of darker skin individuals have been reclaiming the problematic gyaru styles.🤭🤭
As a gyaru, that’s not necessarily true. That style is only really popular in 2 out of over ten substyles (Bibinba and Tsuyome). I commonly see a lot of myths that credit the inspiration and origins gyaru fashion to white women from the 90s & 2000s, when really, it originally took inspiration from black mainstream fashion because of Amuro Namie & the bubble girl movement. It also never stopped taking inspo. you can see a lot of blk and AA influence in 2010 & 2020 styles! (Think b gyaru, amekaji, ganguro, seiko, neo gyaru & more!) Also, trying to view/categorize this subculture through a western lens is only going to saturate it even more. There doesn’t need to be an “American equivalent” and that’s okay. Because gyaru was made to combat oppressive systems in Japan.
Her style is called Mcbling, it's only really comparable to tsyuome gyaru, the only other western style the whole of gyaru could be compared to is Fortis in Sweden
Also MAN you bringing up how east Asian people do in fact have internet and do in fact know what a Black person looks like reminds me of how koolen (a phillipine youtube artist) was called out for being racist (calling Black lips “sausage looking” & calling Black side views “gorilla looking” for example) and her “””””apology”””” had her say “I dont consume western media, i only watch eastern media” Even tho not only did she make fanart for puss in boots the last wish , barbie & spiderman into the spiderverse But also refered to her PALE SKINNED EAST ASIAN OC as having “lightskin stare”
And even then, its not like eastern media doesnt have black people cuz they definitely have. Plus i know she has the internet so she has no excuse to not research.
As a black gal we expressed multiple times how uncomfortable it is to see pale jp gals play dress up with our skin color that’s why there’s rules to how dark yt gals could tan without it being offensive
It's the folks pretending that colorism and racism don't work hand-in-hand and anti-blackness isn't part of that, for me... Kudos to the folks pointing out how messed up that we (black Americans) are catching strays when they're using us as a way to make themselves "ugly" and as a costume to rebel against Japanese beauty standards.
Eli is saying colorism in EA cannot at all be compared to colorism in america but-the two are extremly alike , the entire EA’s mindset of “tan skin = working class” is alot like americas mindset of “Black people = slaves” the two have alot in common Thats not mentioning thst Japan is ALSO very antiblack just like america-alot of anime straight out use blackface just like old american rubberhose animation Antiblackness isnt an unknown concept to Japan & othet EA countries, their fully aware of it & participate in it
@@ellapastoralits ironic really-they say westerns just dont unserstand colorism in EA thus have no place to talk about it yet they obv dont get colorism in america
Blackness is almost always correlated with aggression and rebellion by non black people. They take the fun parts of the culture to wear and parade how different, bold, and rebellious they are, but when we point it out, how nbs think we can be caricaturized and used for fashion while refusing to understand how racism/anti-blackness/COLOURISM/featurism affects us, all of a sudden we are idiots and narrow minded. Ik Gyaru is a Japanese subculture, but the way kpop stans (thats my point of reference rn) REFUSE to recognize how black culture still impacts the industry when its not extremely explicit makes me want to rip my hair out (stan BLACKSWAN yall) Sometimes i think the non-asian people that jump to the defense secretly want to participate in a culture (inspired by us) without having to deal with us. In a “not everything is about you” type deal. Like we’re not the ones that keep doing this 😭 If you want our shit at least respect it, but we can’t even get that. I could talk about this forever and how it pops up in celebrity culture, the queer community, influencer spaces, how colourism has strained my relationships with Asian people in the past, etc. BUT KEEP DOING WHAT UR DOING LOVE UR VIDS!!! Edit: hey im nigerian-canadian! So yeah not “african american” at all but i think i have a p good foundation for my opinions lmao
before i was even a gyaru i used to see videos of the same girl (her name is momoa she is a model for the magazine egg) and things from ya/manba styles and think it was odd or blackface now that i know a lot more about the subculture, i understand that it really isnt. yes, there can be a LOT of tanning and darkening of the skin, but it is not for the purpose to look black/african/african american. at least that is the case when it comes to most gyarus. what i personally take offense from is when it is purposefully done as a sort of caricature- something with the intent of appearing black or trying to insinuate that blackness is ugly (which is not the point of gyaru at all) PERSONALLY i do not claim ANY gyaru who does this. No gyaru should be trying to look black, pretend to be black, or anything along those lines. If you are ur deadass missing the whole idea of gyaru… like we losing the plot rn 😒 bgyaru/bkei is definitely an interesting topic… some dont even consider “bgyaru” to be a gyaru style, which honestly goes for a lot of gyaru style. even agejo wasn’t necessarily considered gyaru by most gals when it was first created. i personally am iffy on this style and like to steer away from that. also keep in mind that this substyle has practically died. i am blasian myself and i really liked how gals go against the norm of darker/tanned skin not fitting the standard of beauty. gyaru is positive- there is SO much emphasis in gyaru culture in being there for your girls and being confident with yourself. it is not to impersonate african american/black people in any way and i wish people could understand this when they see gyaru. also why was felix saying the box braids were for UGLIFICATION?? ☠️☠️its the way their ass wasnt helping at all or even RIGHT
Such an amazing video Ella so glad you talked about this. I made a video on Super Gals which is another anime about gyaru subculture and let’s just say people were acting insane when I directed some criticism towards the ganguro gals. Something I found interesting when conducting my research is that the yamamba and mamba subcultures frame these girls as assimilating to black culture destroying Japanese racial purity. Sooo there’s that too 😭😭
I’m so sorry you went through that because what do you mean about the Japanese Rachel impurity like guys please? 😭😭This is feeling too much like World War II 😭😭😭
A very fair and comprehensive look. I appreciate this video. I agree gyaru is really cool and often cute af but when theyre approaching an impersonation of blk people, it feels like mockery and an excuse to be openly racist. It makes me really uncomfortable as a blk person
Gyaru is so pretty I’ve always loved it but there is an issue with colorism and racism in the gyaru community calling it out is the only way to get rid of it. How do you feel about black people wearing the gyaru style?
i remember a few years ago when i was first being introduced to alt fashion from japan i saw a LOT of people doing blackface for their "gyaru looks" and no one was saying anything about it??? i was like hey guys isnt this a little weird and everyone was like ummm actually no its fine and implying its not is extremely insensitive so for the longest time i thought i was just insane in the membrane for thinking some subcultures of gyaru fashion was a little Suspect. so thank you so much for this video you brought up SO many good points in this video, especially the last point about people babying east asians and trying to act like east asians are incapable of being racist because they "dont know any better". the infantilization of east asians seems to only get worse and worse as time goes on, and racism/colorism in east asian cultures keeps getting excused time and time again. im so sick of people being oblivious to the fact that racism exists OUTSIDE the u.s, like people will claim to be against racism and colorism but as soon as its directed at any other country (especially a european or east asian country) then suddenly everyone is doing olympic levels of mental gymnastics to justify why that country being racist/colorist is ok and cool actually it would be really awesome if more people would look at gyaru fashion in a more nuanced way like you do, both being knowledgable about its roots and also pointing out that there are some aspects in it that should be talked about, even if theyre uncomfortable. it's not inherently bad, but some people and subcultures take it WAY too far. it's really easy and simple to do gyaru looks WITHOUT doing blackface or any sort of cultural appropriation, it's not like these people are being forced to darken their skin past the point of natural tan and end up looking like an old minstrel show caricature but more glittery, it's a conscious choice they're making. and it's an extremely poor choice i really hope you dont catch a lot of flack for this video because it was clearly well researched and came from a place of both appreciation and criticism. i dont have a lollipop emoji on hand but this was a really great vid! and also good luck with nursing school :-)
I tried to be as nuanced as I could in this video and I’m praying this video doesn’t end up on the wrong side of RUclips. Thank you for commenting and I’m glad you enjoyed my take on it. 🌝🌝💞
33:36 their eyes look scary as hell! Also, I feel they fail to understand that they are using black features/culture to “rebel” & what that translates as their majority view of the black community.
That’s why I was so confused why the people in the thread of thread were not understanding like you don’t think it’s weird they keep using black aesthetics to rebel 😭😭😭
they changed the colors of the pokémon, jynx, bc it was 100% blackface. they said jynx was based off of gyaru style, but that literally just proves that the gyaru style jynx was designed after = blackface. love your videos girl! thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
As a gal (gyaru) they cldve made her orange, since most of the tans in the extreme styles that a lot of people partake in rn unless ure naturally dark skinned or black, most people tan in the snooki way of orange-ish bronze tan
The fun/sad part is the fact that, if a black girl does cat eyeliner or randomly says something in Japanese, they would imeadly called out as asinfiathing, and she would be like accused os racism and being culturally insensible
I remember there was this black girl who had almond eyes and people kept saying she was Asian fishing because of how her eyes were shaped and then she literally had to keep showing pictures of her as a baby 😭😭 and it was a mess
Thx for this. I was always wondering how black ppl especially women feel about these styles. I mean I like the aesthetic myself but the skin color thing always seemed kinda weird. And knowing how many asian cultures demonize darker skin in both asians and western ppl, i definitely was always wondering if there were some really nasty undertones to this thing.
I wanted to make this video because overall really do love gyaru as a sub genre of fashion and what it means to young girls in japan, but I also wanted to talk about the problematic nature of gyaru as well
@@ellapastoral that‘s great man! I think it‘s super important to be critical of things you like when it‘s warranted. And your video is also really great! I really liked your takes on the thing!
yours is definitely my favorite discussion on this topic, room for nuance and taking a stand. i've admired gyaru culture the moment I found an episode of GALS! on youtube in middle school
As a Japanese,Japanese and Korean biracial. Thank you! for speaking out #ギャル culture. Because it's humiliating the "Audacity"that Japanese beauty brands don't make skin tones or any representation to✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 except #ガンダム00 . Great example a Japanese artist called #CrystalKay .
there's like this one person on the gyaru reddit who called out a gyaru for overtanning on tiktok and people were getting mad over it 😭 and i remember someone having a huge argument with me cuz i said bkei/bgyaru is blackfisihing (im black and gyaru)
Hello, gal here. The dark skin in gyaru doesnt mean "black people are aggresive and rebel" yes, some toxic and racist gyarus will tell you this, but it isnt the truth. You see, gyaru is meant to rebel against the crazy beauty standars of japan, and one of these standars is pale skin , so kurogyarus tan their skin a lot to go against that standard. And also, gyarus that where born with dark skin are part of the kurogyaru subcultures too The old racist styles of gyaru arent used anymore.. we all know its wrong, they are gone
@@ellapastoralyes, and i am agreeing with you, but adding up that these racist subcultures do not exist anymore. If you see old gyaru posts you will notice that a lot of these gals were toxic, racist and very cruel to other gals, and in this same period of time the racist subcultures were seen as okay and so people participated in it, but do they participate in It anymore? Hell no! Its disgusting, offensive and sad, no actual gal will defend this. So.. i know the point of your video is to inform about these old so called "styles" but what can we do about it now? Nobody uses it, nobody defends It, It is not even considered as gyaru anymore, what else can we do? This is a conversation that has been brought up for so many years, and in some way it gives gyaru a bad image, ive seen some comments here say that the gyaru fashion as a whole is weird and bad, but It isnt. The people that are left saying that the racist subcultures where good are tiktok gyarus that probably dont even have a gyaru lifestyle or fashion, just people who got their info out of tiktok
Yes i know you mentioned tiktok gyarus, but again almost all of these people do not engage in the lifestyle or fashion (and are also trendhoppers that once they see gyaru is not talked about anymore , they'll be gone) Just the people who post the videos, and the people who post those weird "b-kei" videos dont have to be right (which is a weird name because kei comes from harajuku and... Gyaru is not harajuku.)
OK, cool sorry for coming off a little assertively, I’ve got an influx of people who haven’t even watched the entire video before commenting. And about your points about the fact that these people are a lot of these tiktokers might be trendhoppers idk maybe you’re right but from going on these peoples accounts their whole entire TikTok and online persona is based off the fact that they took Gyaru from making informational videos to do it make up tutorials, IDK they seem very serious to me. I repeatedly in several different sections of my video mentioned that not all gyaru gals are doing this antiblackness thing and that’s why I specifically included the section of my favorite gyaru that I follow on TikTok who are doing unique things, as well as let people know that there is a multiverse of different gyaru subculture that are chill. I’m trying my best to moderate the comments and correct misconceptions
Love your videos and the fact that the mic almost peaking jumpscares me multiple times 😂 I'm being genuine, I truly like being startled by the loud mic randomly cuz it's a little silly thing for me in such serious video topics. Thanks for bringing these discussions to light.
@@ellapastoral so glad youre talking abt this bcos the anitwit (weebs) community is BONKERS antiblackness left n right this vid (like the others you make) was a banger!!
Ily i agree with everythin you said ima rokku/goshikku gal and im so happy the community is not like it used to be it was so bad. Still bad but getting better.
I rly like how other black and brown ppl have adapted gyaru to suit them. As a mixed person with naturally tan skin, I've been inspired to do the same :3. Growing up, I stood out in my home town (of mostly white ppl) and it made me feel really insecure of how my body looked and how dark I was compared to others. now that I live in a more diverse area, I'm more able to be apart of the community and participate in the fashion trends (within reason). I defiantly agree that some ppl go too far with it, even I wouldn't do what these non black ppl are doing with the gyaru styling :/. If your hair isn't built for braids, don't wear them. If you're not naturally tan or darker skinned don't. darken. your. skin. It's that simple lol.
You'd think that ppl who experienced colorism would be wise to not be racist. It's very disappointing to see that people are still out here being anti black
I have seen people even incorporate gyaru aspects into cosplay… White cosplayer specifically and I’m like see you can do this but without being a weirdo
The images used in your video as examples of Ganguro are about 20 years old and do not accurately depict the state of Gyaru fashion in Japan today. It is very, very rare to see Ganguro and especially Yamanba, in Tokyo now. I dont understand how we are criticising a fashion statement which has essentially died out. Its been mostly adopted by foreigners. This video, through the use of old images, implies that these styles are still the norm, when they are not.
@ellapastoral I did watch the video. You used old images of Ganguro to make a point about modern day Gyaru fashion, and it is inaccurate about the state of Gyaru in Japan today.
The entire video that I made was to point out to the anti-blackness that has been staple of gyaru for decades despite the fact that people want to act like these substances of gyaru have disappeared into the unknown the anti-blackness of the subcultures are still present to this day. I made sure to include recipts and timestamps of people still using blackness, despite many of y’all saying that these problematic aspects have disappeared from the culture evidence is right therein your faces. I made this point over and over because I knew that people like you were going to say that stuff like this doesn’t happen anymore in modern gyaru, my whole entire point is that it does and it’s OK to say that it happened and that we’re working on making the space better but nooooo 😵💫😵💫😵💫 it’s always that’s not true ganguro and Yamaba have gone into the great unknown
@ellapastoral Just because you watch Anime doesn't make you qualified to speak about Japanese culture or interpret it through an academic lense. You DIDN'T do a huge amount of research into this topic - and you can't even be bothered to make sure the term "Gyaru" would be pronounced correctly for this video. And you used 20 year old clickbait photos for your thumbnail. When you post an analytical video you need to be prepared that people who are more experienced in this topic will respond to your video, if you can't handle genuine critique, don't make videos. There is more to Gyaru than just 'tanning'. It was about going against homogeneous beauty standards, the deterioration of male and female gender roles in society, and was a rebellion against the classic Japanese ideal of, "the nail that stands out gets stamped down." It wasn't an innately racist subculture. I'm sorry, I've studied the Japanese language and it's culture for over 20 years and I don't agree with that narrative. I DO agree though, that there was definitely appropriation of black (hip hop) culture. The Japanese have a tendency to take cultural ideas and concepts around the world and make them uniquely Japanese. I encourage you to study more about this issue in further detail. I also want to add that I don't deny the Japanese can be racist. I spent some time at a Japanese school a decade ago as an exchange student in Nagasaki. It was awful, the kids would call me "Baka Gaijin (stupid foreigner)" to my face even when they knew I spoke the language and could understand. I am mixed race with dark hair and skin, so I felt even more isolated. They were so racist. So definitely not trying to deny that racism doesn't exist there - it definitely does.
I have several comments on this video, and I do like the perspective you gave. I just don't think you're aware of modern gyaru.. Gals did have very dark tans in the beginning (90s), but now gyarus in modern day (mentioning how gyaru is dying, and not super popular), we have rules such as you cant tan 2-3 shades deeper than your skin tone, and braids are prohibited. B-Kei is highly frowned apon and close to no one does that style except for black people reclaiming the subculture. You made a very good point that EA people are not in this 'bubble' and are very socially aware, but you need to point out how gyaru has evolved. gyarus took the opposite of standards too far, and now days its toned down. Even Yamanba. Black people have influenced Gyaru, but it was more the OPPOSITE of their standards. The points you made are good, but I don't think you did a deep enough dive into gyaru, but rather the tanning aspect. Modern gyaru has adapted and changed, especially how the beauty standard has changed. most Yamanba gals (such as me) frown upon other gals who tan way darker than their skin.
As someone who studied the Japanese language and culture for over 20 years, this video isn't very accurate in regards to the development of Gyaru and where it is now. The use of old images of Ganguro is also misleading.
@@Linalo18You guys are so dense. Both of the ways to pronounce gyaru are right - the word gyaru is a loan-word anyway; there is nothing wrong with different accents for you all Unless it's a Japanese pronounciation then it's suddenly just so wrong and itchy. The video was directly addressing the conversations and misinformation that is spreading in recent times, specifically in the western parts of the internet, and the conversations happen to be mostly about the past. Adressing the antiblackness people are trying to cover with "it's just ea colorism" is much needed. Acknowledging modern gyaru sensibilities is not a requirement for the point to stand here, and the subculture itself seems to have come to the same point anyway.
I've typically associated the origin gyaru with Okinawa girls adopting American 90s-00s beach looks. It makes sense that American culture would bleed into Okinawa trends. Okinawa is a place Americans go party because of the US military base. So I can see why jearsy shore looks similar to it cuz its like this american beach clubing girl thing lol. Btw, if you try saying gal but end it with a lu or ru, it would sound more accurate and be easier to understand. It's basically saying gal in a Japanese way so even if you just said gal I think that would make more sense to english and Japanese speakers. I mean no disrespect, Im just trying to help.
So glad youtube recommend this vid to me randomly! When I was deep in the weeb culture in the early 2010s, people were constantly trying to explain away blackface. I'm not black and didn't have a vid like this that explains the history with a black perspective. So even tho I was uncomfy I had no resources to argue. This vid would've helped me so much when I was in anime club arguing with the weebs. You've earned a subscriber! Excited to see you grow! 💕
Thank you so so much for watching! I’m really glad you like this video. I try my best to give as much nuance, as well as giving my own experience as a black woman. Welcome aboard.
girl this is so true the ppl doing blackface for gyaru and ppl in the comments like omg they didn't knowwww 🥺🥺 like they literally have SOCIAL MEDIA they can see for themselves why tanning yourself to the darkest brown and trying to be black when they arent is just disrespectful but besides b-kei i really love the style and im glad you spoke on it.. 🍭
I love the gyaru style, though there are definitely girls that go way too dark with there tan and it comes across as blackface. Most gyaru girls now wear lighter tan or at least an orange looking shade rather than brown but unfortunately there are still those who do not see having extremely dark tans as a problem. I think it's kinda sad that the entire point of Gyaru was to rebel against the beauty standards of Japanese people needing to have pake skin and dark hair but instead they've kinda just not accepted themselves for the way they are in the complete opposite way. I'm not saying to get rid of tanning altogether if you like the way it looks on you but going to such extreme measures of either bleaching or tanning your skin to the point that you look like a completely different race is a huge issue.
I remember seeing this on Yandere Simulator and wondering if it was blackface. (Considering what game is about it wouldn't have surprised me). But thanks for the explanation
As a Gal myself (Hime and Agejo) I am so so happy that you made this video!!! The Problem of anti blackness is very big in Japan and made its way into some substyles of Gyaru (the B-Gyarus and Yamanba in particular) They are obviously performinh Blackface and Cultural appropriation!!! To me it's so mind boggling how people can defend Japanese people doing this! I personally think these substyles should ONLY be allowed to be worn by black people. period
I think it's possible for Japanese people to not have a lot of cultural context. Sure, they have the internet, but how often are they interacting with us? Seeing our politics? I'm on the American side of the internet. I, for example, don't have any idea about what's going on socially, politically, or in the online space of Singapore. I'm not on that side of the internet, and as of right now, I have no incentive to explore. That being said, if you take aesthetics from another culture, you DO have an incentive to look into said culture and history. We have to hold Japanese people and foreign people in general accountable for their refusal to engage with international politics, particularly when they try to take from specific people and cultures like African American culture
Like maybe I won’t hold your average regular Japanese girl to task but like I said in this video, these people are well accustomed enough with black culture to know how to do intricate braids and they won’t do the effort of looking at the history or seeing what they’re doing is offensive because a lot of westerns and infantilize Asians to the point of babying them and even when people are brave enough to say isn’t this weird they’ll get accosted that’s the main issue because this whole thing is because people won’t hold foreigners and Japanese people comfortable this antiblackness has been a thing since the 1980s and it’s not like the use of black culture has stopped at all
This my third or fourth video I’ve seen from you and I just resonate so much with your takes, I feel that often people use racialised styles that don’t correlate to their race subconsciously (at least) to demean, mock or create a bad name for the inspiration for the styles
Girl I will start off by saying I'm white American white to be exact lol 😂, but the moment u shared the pics of Asian Japanese girls with literal shades of black and brown on their faces I felt icky af, and ur damn right they have search engines as well so they should know what's wrong, also u should do a video on how there's parts of Europe that still does menstrol shows
Doing all of these videos on blackface is extremely tiring for me… Because somehow RUclips lets these videos go to the wrong side of RUclips and the last thing I want is racist Europeans coming and bullying me… I made a video talking about how much European people hate the Romani people and I’m still getting extremely problematic comments to this day about it😭😭
Bkei is so cringe and no one does it anymore also manba/yamanba(ganguro) weren't gyaru in the 90s they were their own thing. Back in the 90s you had to tan to be gyaru so gals rebellion to go against Japanese beauty standards so instead of light skin and dark hair its dark skin and light hair. Theres heavy western influence and that includes black culture. Back in the 90s ill excuse them but nowadays they have no excuse to be anti black, we don't care if in their culture alot of people are anti black theybhave the resources to educate themselves. (Im a black gal and you showcased some of my mutuals in the vid btw)
🍭 I really enjoyed this video and was something that never sat right with me. I'm glad to see that this issue is being addressed more as this has been something that always did not sit well with me.
I wanted to make sure I did lots of research before I posted this video but no matter how much I broke it down I was like this is extremely anti-black and as someone who is super into j fashion, I couldn’t just not speak on it
I agree with the point of this video there is anti blackness in the gyaru community. I was hesitant to watch this video because you aren't gyaru and its hard to handle the gyaru situation without extensive research and understanding. But for someone who isnt in the subculture you did a pretty good job with this video
I’ve been a fan of gyaru for a long time so I wanted to come from a very nuanced place, and I tried to do as much as I can, and listen to people in the sub culture as well as give my opinion
Tanning isn't blackface... Blackface is when a person paints their face black to purposefully mock a black person. And i personally dont think hairstyles inspired by black cultures, worn by non black people is racist. It's hair man. When black people with curly hair straighten their hair no one tells them it's racist. Like i don't see a problem.
Also, not everything is meant as racism. I don't see how tan gyarus are offensive? I may not be black, but honestly there are more important things to worry about than people's appearance. I don't get how y'all say it's racist to fx braid your hair as a non black person... Like, racism as a whole is built against separating races? Like, why does something suddenly have to be only for black people or only for white people??? I don't get that mindset tbh. It's like gatekeeping in a way... Idk if I "sound stupid" I'm genuinely just confused. And honestly I just wish that small things like this wouldn't be considered racist... Gyaru is a form of rebellion yes, but it's not meant as blackface nor making fun of black people. It was meant as a f-u to the Japanese beauty standards, and as some japanese people were naturally tan, they tanned their skin to rebel. Not to look like black people. I'm sorry if I made you angry. I did watch the full video, and I don't have a problem with anything you said. I'm just stating my own opinion, as I feel I have a right to.
Yes, obviously not everything is going to be racism, but like I stated in my video over and over and over again, literally using black aesthetics in order to say to f you to your society continues to perpetuate extremely problematic stereotypes about black people. it’s the same way I have an issue with people who want to cosplay as Asian babies (cough cough Bella Delphine) and indulge in p0rn Distant perpetuates of any harmful narrative that Asian women are so submissive take advantage of which we’ve seen time again and again to violence against Asian women. The same thing with Black people too. like I said in my video, I’m okay with a little tan, but when is enough going to be enough being from the natural brown Japanese people are to being closer and closer to my shade and then on top of that wearing box braids. if your rebellion is my default, what the hell does that say about your ideas of Black people?
@@ellapastoral it kinda seems like you're just looking for a reason to be mad at non black people tbh. Belle Delphine isn't pretending to be asian fx, she's acting the way she is because she's catering to the porn addiction of her fans. And why is it that when a non Black girl tans AND wears braids, she's suddenly "trying to be black???" Like fair enough if you think it looks bad on them, but not everyone is trying to "be black"Some people just like the look. And I don't think it's hateful or "anti-black" at least not intentionally. And you said in the video that "we need to stop pretending that japanese people don't know what's offensive or not, they have access to the internet" I agree, but that doesn't mean they're trying to mock black people. And many japanese people don't speak English, so they're not going to watch western RUclips. They won't see a video like this and understand a word of it. "Using black aesthetics to rebel" black aesthetics what? Because they braid and tan, and like the look of black hip-hop fashion? If anything they do it because they like the look. Why do they automatically get the racist stigma from it? I don't think Gyaru is meant to mimic blank people nor black culture. You can't gatekeep clothes or hair for only one race, that to me is honestly kinda racist. So I don't see a problem with the extreme tanning, or the cultural hairstyles. It's not meant to be harmful. And I'm sorry you get offended by it, but the West and Asia have very different views, and you can't expect to change everyone's mindset, not even if it offends you sometimes. It's not like they're going around saying the N-word left and right, they're not even saying anything harmful, at least not what I've seen. So I don't get the need to suddenly put a label on everyone in that sub style of Gyaru.
according to google they do this as " a way for high school students and young adult females to resist against dominant culture's ideology on ideal physical appearance of women, as well as strict school rules and standards." basically from my understanding and from experience living in japan, its pretty much, japanese society prefers pale skin, so gyaru darken there skin, its one of the many many anti-societal fashion styles in japan, most of these sub cultures are just flat out rebelling against outdated traditional values and want more freedom of expression in there lives edit: i was married to a "harajuku girl" for 7 years, and her friend circle included many gyaru, there honestly really nice people, got on great with all of my ex wifes friends its not even about "black aesthetics" its just them being the opposite of what society says you should be, i thought it was about skin colour to begin with, but after living in japan for 20 years i learned a lot about how different there ways of thinking are, and at this point the only people who are offended by gyaru are the people who know nothing about gyaru, the extreme tanned ones are a specific type of gyaru, i forget what i heard them referred to as but there not the majority, most of them are just casually tanned skin japan dont think dark skin is unattractive, they just prefer pale skin, different cultures are allowed to have different opinions, japans only really racist to the chinese (for historical reasons) and finally, braids are not black exclusive culturally, im norwegian, and the vikings had braids, the didnt have encounters with african cultures, so viking braids were invented independent to african cultures, meaning, i have no obligation to learn black history if i braid my long hair, because my braid is my own culture, and at the same time i do not get offended if a non scandinavian braids there beards, at the end of the day hair is just hair, getting offended by someone braiding there hair in my country would be described as "roper på en murvegg" which means "yelling at a brick wall" side note: i cannot get the right term, but vikings did develop braids independent of other cultures, theres a term for it, but it means braids have there history in white cultures
This comment just made me sigh so heavily! It’s like you watched my video and just didn’t get it. Let me break down several things for you. Dark skin is literally seen as unattractive 😭😭 ie the association with poverty/the working class and the ramapant use of skin bleaching creams. Please look the backlash Halle (American singer) got when she was the little mermaid and how Japanese fans treated her. Japanese people (no tea no shade) were n@zi sympathizers and they hate Koreans too (maybe not on the range as they do for the Chinese) the same thing with immigrants from south east Asia. Norwegians braids aren’t African braids at all 😭😭 idk why yall keep saying that
@@pearlykangel people often forget or more likely choose to willingly ignore the fact that vikings invented braids independently to other cultures, making them a valid point for disproving the "white people cant wear braids" argument im sick of seeing, heres another example, the spear throwing weapon called the atlatl, was developed by a handful of cultures around the world almost concurrently, and many of these cultures have still yet to learn that the other cultures even exist even after many hundreds of years
About half way, she's included gal tiktok videos making you think she would at least pronounce gyaru right but no were still on garu and I'm about to go insane please turn it around and talk to gals in the second half 22:12
Ok im basically at the end and like oof, girl if you still read comments please reply to me so I don't waste my breath (unless someone else wants it) coz like ok ypu poped of on like a few points but negl half the video is redundant in the morden era and space of gal, sincerely a gyaru
😩 damn OK I get it. I pronounced Gyaru wrong my points still stand. The reason why I wanted to make sure to include all of the history surrounding the problematic aspects of Gyaru is that many people in the subculture like to act as if all of the toxicity has disappeared, which isn’t true. I wanted to include that girl who is still using box braids and black aesthetics in 2023/2024, two further illustrates that point. Because I knew people like you were going to say something along the lines of this doesn’t happen anymore. But the girls who I showed in the video specifically the TikToks are actively still doing it and getting praised. But if I didn’t mention the long history of people using black aesthetics in the Gyaru community then my point of showing, modern girls still using black aesthetics wouldn’t be as hard hitting.
@ellapastoral ok and if you read my full comments you'd know I agreed you made some good points what you left out is that the com as a whole actually condems momoa having box braids, 99% of us agree its bad and you just focused on the 1% that dosent (and was kinda wrong about some aspects of gal like you mentioned) and unfortunately we can't eliminate that 1% coz in a group of people there will always be the bad. As for discussion about specifically B kei that sub (which was it even a sub really?) Has been dead for over 10 years at this point and has been talked over by the com to death, we all (at least the 99%) agree it was in bad taste and we all agree it should stay dead unless black gals want to reclaim it, as for ganguro it's also mostly dead but even if people do it times have changed and people do not go that dark and haven't for years coz again the com as a whole agreed that's bad. Yes present that history but you took up most your vid talking about bkei and ganguro as if this still happens today which it really dosent, hell you said momoa is bkei when she really isn't she's reinwa gal which some JP gals literally argue isn't even gyaru. And yes I will harp on you for pronouncing gyaru wrong because frankly as someone working towards a degree to another if you're gonna present a subject esspecially when wanted to be perceived as knolagble on it you could at the very least learn how it's pronounced its basic respect really, same with the cybergrl comment about wanting her to talk to black gals when she already did, like i get your busy but when you looked up her og vid (which is also long as heck) you could have seen if she spoke more on it or at least seen in the recommended the videos she did with black gals. Gals are getting upset coz trust me we care about the subculture hell of a lot so we get defensive and to basically be told we all are basically enabling racisim is offensive when we actively call people out for shit behaviour, like if you looked at lolcow sure them bitches need to take their heads out their asses but to lable the whole com? It's irresponsible and honestly comes off bias and I know you included 2 gals at the end you liked but like agian that dosent fix what the video comes off as. Over all as I said you made some good point, some irrelevant to morden day ones and then some that just show the lack of research past surface level that wouldn't have happened if you asked littrely 1 gal about the subculture, also like ngl tiktok for the most part is a shit place to learn about gal. Like I'm not hating on you personally don't get me wrong you seem like a lovely person I just think the vid should have stayed in the oven a little longer and had some extra ingredients if you will
Calling one of the gyaru subcultures mamba/yamamba and gangankuro is such nasty work 🙃 And then not seeing that it looks like minstrelsy word for word, bar for bar??? Cmon bruh. Make it make sense 🤦🏾 Edit: Very well done video btw. ✨👏🏾 Im a bit of a weeb as much as the next person, but we can not let shit like this slide, especially during a time where its suddenly cool to be racist. Gyaru is cool, gyaru is cute, until its literally blackface. 🍭
@@ellapastoral a model for egg magazine, that's why she's so popular and it makes what she did even more problematic since she's one of the faces of the biggest gyaru magazine
@@pearlykangel yeah I know I used to follow them but then they started to do that kogal stuff with kids and idk I started to feel uncomfortable and promptly unfollowed them. It makes me sad cause I love egg magazine but it's so fucked up I hope those kids are ok
@@ellapastoral egg is a popular gyaru magazine along with popteen and more. So egg models are gals that are under egg as models not to be confused with some gals that just end up in the magazine cause of photos taken from the street and stuff Edit: also sorry for the late reply
“May the power of Christ compel you! 🤣” great video 🍭 And to the people saying you used old images and it’s not still happening the same way it was before…. Stop the cap 😆 it’s a niche fashion yes, but those girls are STILL out there in Shinjuku Gyaru-ing it up 😆
Thanks for watching until the end. I decided to watch my video in incognito mode, and literally on the side panel you can see people still doing these problematic fashion styles,and posting RUclips videos as recently as seven years ago
However when you look at the roots of black face where that term actually came from much of what people call black face today is not. I notice many self project their complexion obsession onto others. Which when you think about it is very ignorant. There are all manner of complexions from very light to very dark in all ethnicities. Just because you personally may have never seen that complexion in that ethnicity does not exclude its existence. Black face was a deplorable and disgusting act it wasn’t just the painting of one’s face which was not than just tanner. It involved mannerisms and speech as well as caricature. Unfortunately society seems to indoctrinate this belief that the greatest suffering wins. It creates division. Notice how no one ever talks about the more than millions of things all ethnicities have in common is always a focus on the division. Theres always this need to create an us vs them dichotomy and imo it’s very damaging to future of humanity. I highly doubt that gyaru are trying some subtle back handed put down. They see something they like and they want to imitate the way all humans do. If we can’t learn to share especially when there is nothing new under the sun then as a species we need to grow up. Unity and the removal of complexion in any conversation needs to happen
🍅 🍅🍅 I can tell you didn’t even try to watch my video in its entirety because I talk about the importance of sharing culture but being respectful. People like yall are the problem because instead of learning to do better so we can be united people like you would rather close your eyes and excuse nonsense 😒
Can I ask why black people are so protective of their braid culture? Why so much care about hairstyles? Im eager to follow your advice and stay respectful but Idk why braids are so important to you as much as i can understand the blackface situation
A lot of black people are forced to cut their hair short or straighten it in order to fit into societal beauty norms of tight silhouettes when it comes to the head, as well as school and work dress codes that don't allow "big" or "distracting" hair. In order to keep the hair healthy and not affected by harsh physical conditions, black people often need to wear "protective" styles that keeps the hair tightly bound, such as braids or knots. A lot of non black people do braids for fashion, while black people do it to protect their hair.
It's because our hair was and still is heavily discriminated against for literally no reason. We are protective or these styles because when we wear them we're called ghetto, aggressive and uneducated but when non black people wear them they're edgy and cool. For example Zendaya once wore locks and a white woman said she looks like she smelled like some oil and weed while Kylie Jenner was praised for looking stylish in braids. Black kids today are told to straighten their hair or to take out their locks in order to look presentable and smart and black people in workplaces can get fired for wearing black hairstyles or wearing their natural hair. Hair to us is another way the world discriminates against us. Please look up the case of a young black boy who was denied an education (I forgot the state but it's an American school) because he has locks. This case is still ongoing but the only people who care about that boy are black people while the non black people who only wear our hairstyles to look tough and cool aren't saying anything and they don't care.
@@priscilla8068 thank you for replying and providing additional resources, I'll check out the situations youve mentioned. It's really horrible what happens
A lot of the people who replied to you did a good job explaining why black hair is so important to black people, but to summarize it we're still demonized for how our hair naturally grows out of our scalp. May It Be by other black people or by our jobs or even worse our schools black hair still isn't being respected and to see other races of people practically be praised and called edgy or whatever positive adjective being applied to when they do braids or other Afrocentric Styles is so disheartening because when we live in our truth with the hair that God gave us we get shamed
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People acting like somehow Japan only exports media but infantilizes them like they don’t get any outside media at all. There’s like this weird orientalist idea that Japan and really East Asia as a whole is pristine and untouched by black culture when that’s just not true. Their rappers do black people cosplay constantly and so much of their music is R&B and now even Afropop inspired. They know what black people are they just choose not to look into what’s offensive or not. I do like seeing black and blasian gyaru’s reclaim b-gyaru and Yamanba gyaru though.
Thank you for practically explained why I was getting such an icky feeling with the way people were trying to infantilize Asians, but you hit it on the nail. I really do like how a lot of darker skin individuals have been reclaiming the problematic gyaru styles.🤭🤭
When I think of an American equivalent to Gyaru fashion, I think of the fashion aesthetics Snooki from Jersey shore wears.
Yea Snooki 😩💗
Yaaaas! I've literally said that to describe gyaru for ppl, but you're the first person I've seen say that in the wild.
Yes idk if I wrong or not but I think it's called mcbling
As a gyaru, that’s not necessarily true. That style is only really popular in 2 out of over ten substyles (Bibinba and Tsuyome). I commonly see a lot of myths that credit the inspiration and origins gyaru fashion to white women from the 90s & 2000s, when really, it originally took inspiration from black mainstream fashion because of Amuro Namie & the bubble girl movement. It also never stopped taking inspo. you can see a lot of blk and AA influence in 2010 & 2020 styles! (Think b gyaru, amekaji, ganguro, seiko, neo gyaru & more!)
Also, trying to view/categorize this subculture through a western lens is only going to saturate it even more. There doesn’t need to be an “American equivalent” and that’s okay. Because gyaru was made to combat oppressive systems in Japan.
Her style is called Mcbling, it's only really comparable to tsyuome gyaru, the only other western style the whole of gyaru could be compared to is Fortis in Sweden
Also MAN you bringing up how east Asian people do in fact have internet and do in fact know what a Black person looks like reminds me of how koolen (a phillipine youtube artist) was called out for being racist (calling Black lips “sausage looking” & calling Black side views “gorilla looking” for example) and her “””””apology”””” had her say
“I dont consume western media, i only watch eastern media”
Even tho not only did she make fanart for puss in boots the last wish , barbie & spiderman into the spiderverse
But also refered to her PALE SKINNED EAST ASIAN OC as having “lightskin stare”
Eww I hear about her all the time I can’t stand her
And even then, its not like eastern media doesnt have black people cuz they definitely have. Plus i know she has the internet so she has no excuse to not research.
AS A GYARU I WAS SO EXCITED FOR THIS VIDEO!! I LOVE YOUR WORK AND YOU SUMMARIZED EVERYTHING PERFECTLY AAAAAA
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Hehe thank you ! I tried to do the gyaru community justice
i was getting sad cause you havent upload in a minute IM SO HAPPY RN cause this week was a mess and your videos make my day
Thank you harri 😭😭 you know school’s been killing my creativity but I’m trying my best
As a black gal we expressed multiple times how uncomfortable it is to see pale jp gals play dress up with our skin color that’s why there’s rules to how dark yt gals could tan without it being offensive
I’m so glad Gyarus are in this comment section are speaking up and holding the people who are problematic in the community accountable
It's the folks pretending that colorism and racism don't work hand-in-hand and anti-blackness isn't part of that, for me... Kudos to the folks pointing out how messed up that we (black Americans) are catching strays when they're using us as a way to make themselves "ugly" and as a costume to rebel against Japanese beauty standards.
This!!!
even if east asian colorism is “different than antiblackness” why are so many east asians antiblack? could it be….the racism? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 (its the racism)
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Eli is saying colorism in EA cannot at all be compared to colorism in america but-the two are extremly alike , the entire EA’s mindset of “tan skin = working class” is alot like americas mindset of “Black people = slaves” the two have alot in common
Thats not mentioning thst Japan is ALSO very antiblack just like america-alot of anime straight out use blackface just like old american rubberhose animation
Antiblackness isnt an unknown concept to Japan & othet EA countries, their fully aware of it & participate in it
Thank you 😭😭 I was like come on now colorism and racism and literally colorism
@@ellapastoralits ironic really-they say westerns just dont unserstand colorism in EA thus have no place to talk about it yet they obv dont get colorism in america
Blackness is almost always correlated with aggression and rebellion by non black people. They take the fun parts of the culture to wear and parade how different, bold, and rebellious they are, but when we point it out, how nbs think we can be caricaturized and used for fashion while refusing to understand how racism/anti-blackness/COLOURISM/featurism affects us, all of a sudden we are idiots and narrow minded.
Ik Gyaru is a Japanese subculture, but the way kpop stans (thats my point of reference rn) REFUSE to recognize how black culture still impacts the industry when its not extremely explicit makes me want to rip my hair out (stan BLACKSWAN yall)
Sometimes i think the non-asian people that jump to the defense secretly want to participate in a culture (inspired by us) without having to deal with us. In a “not everything is about you” type deal. Like we’re not the ones that keep doing this 😭 If you want our shit at least respect it, but we can’t even get that.
I could talk about this forever and how it pops up in celebrity culture, the queer community, influencer spaces, how colourism has strained my relationships with Asian people in the past, etc. BUT KEEP DOING WHAT UR DOING LOVE UR VIDS!!!
Edit: hey im nigerian-canadian! So yeah not “african american” at all but i think i have a p good foundation for my opinions lmao
🍭;)
it's the 'they wanna be black until it's really time to be black' type shit..
Thanks for watching until the end
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I am not African-American either I’m GhanaianAmerican but everything you said is 100% too. It’s literally a mess.
before i was even a gyaru i used to see videos of the same girl (her name is momoa she is a model for the magazine egg) and things from ya/manba styles and think it was odd or blackface
now that i know a lot more about the subculture, i understand that it really isnt. yes, there can be a LOT of tanning and darkening of the skin, but it is not for the purpose to look black/african/african american. at least that is the case when it comes to most gyarus.
what i personally take offense from is when it is purposefully done as a sort of caricature- something with the intent of appearing black or trying to insinuate that blackness is ugly (which is not the point of gyaru at all) PERSONALLY i do not claim ANY gyaru who does this. No gyaru should be trying to look black, pretend to be black, or anything along those lines. If you are ur deadass missing the whole idea of gyaru… like we losing the plot rn 😒
bgyaru/bkei is definitely an interesting topic… some dont even consider “bgyaru” to be a gyaru style, which honestly goes for a lot of gyaru style. even agejo wasn’t necessarily considered gyaru by most gals when it was first created. i personally am iffy on this style and like to steer away from that. also keep in mind that this substyle has practically died.
i am blasian myself and i really liked how gals go against the norm of darker/tanned skin not fitting the standard of beauty. gyaru is positive- there is SO much emphasis in gyaru culture in being there for your girls and being confident with yourself. it is not to impersonate african american/black people in any way and i wish people could understand this when they see gyaru.
also why was felix saying the box braids were for UGLIFICATION?? ☠️☠️its the way their ass wasnt helping at all or even RIGHT
ik that was a whole lot of yap but i rlly do have a lot to say on this ☠️
Thanks for commenting! Y’all are teaching me a lot but why did the bkei genre get involved into main gyaru anyway
Such an amazing video Ella so glad you talked about this. I made a video on Super Gals which is another anime about gyaru subculture and let’s just say people were acting insane when I directed some criticism towards the ganguro gals. Something I found interesting when conducting my research is that the yamamba and mamba subcultures frame these girls as assimilating to black culture destroying Japanese racial purity. Sooo there’s that too 😭😭
I’m so sorry you went through that because what do you mean about the Japanese Rachel impurity like guys please? 😭😭This is feeling too much like World War II 😭😭😭
A very fair and comprehensive look. I appreciate this video. I agree gyaru is really cool and often cute af but when theyre approaching an impersonation of blk people, it feels like mockery and an excuse to be openly racist. It makes me really uncomfortable as a blk person
This exactly!! I feel so uncomfortable, but I love gyaru so much
Gyaru is so pretty I’ve always loved it but there is an issue with colorism and racism in the gyaru community calling it out is the only way to get rid of it. How do you feel about black people wearing the gyaru style?
I love seeing Black people wear Gyaru like I said in my video black girls love Gyaru
It's kinda funny how they claim were being ignorant. But can't even do they're research🙄
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i remember a few years ago when i was first being introduced to alt fashion from japan i saw a LOT of people doing blackface for their "gyaru looks" and no one was saying anything about it??? i was like hey guys isnt this a little weird and everyone was like ummm actually no its fine and implying its not is extremely insensitive so for the longest time i thought i was just insane in the membrane for thinking some subcultures of gyaru fashion was a little Suspect. so thank you so much for this video
you brought up SO many good points in this video, especially the last point about people babying east asians and trying to act like east asians are incapable of being racist because they "dont know any better". the infantilization of east asians seems to only get worse and worse as time goes on, and racism/colorism in east asian cultures keeps getting excused time and time again. im so sick of people being oblivious to the fact that racism exists OUTSIDE the u.s, like people will claim to be against racism and colorism but as soon as its directed at any other country (especially a european or east asian country) then suddenly everyone is doing olympic levels of mental gymnastics to justify why that country being racist/colorist is ok and cool actually
it would be really awesome if more people would look at gyaru fashion in a more nuanced way like you do, both being knowledgable about its roots and also pointing out that there are some aspects in it that should be talked about, even if theyre uncomfortable. it's not inherently bad, but some people and subcultures take it WAY too far. it's really easy and simple to do gyaru looks WITHOUT doing blackface or any sort of cultural appropriation, it's not like these people are being forced to darken their skin past the point of natural tan and end up looking like an old minstrel show caricature but more glittery, it's a conscious choice they're making. and it's an extremely poor choice
i really hope you dont catch a lot of flack for this video because it was clearly well researched and came from a place of both appreciation and criticism. i dont have a lollipop emoji on hand but this was a really great vid! and also good luck with nursing school :-)
I tried to be as nuanced as I could in this video and I’m praying this video doesn’t end up on the wrong side of RUclips. Thank you for commenting and I’m glad you enjoyed my take on it. 🌝🌝💞
33:36 their eyes look scary as hell! Also, I feel they fail to understand that they are using black features/culture to “rebel” & what that translates as their majority view of the black community.
That’s why I was so confused why the people in the thread of thread were not understanding like you don’t think it’s weird they keep using black aesthetics to rebel 😭😭😭
they changed the colors of the pokémon, jynx, bc it was 100% blackface. they said jynx was based off of gyaru style, but that literally just proves that the gyaru style jynx was designed after = blackface. love your videos girl! thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
I forgot about this, but yes they do know there’s been too many scandals in Japan for them to not know
I knew about the blackface bit, but didn't realize it was based on gyaru!
As a gal (gyaru) they cldve made her orange, since most of the tans in the extreme styles that a lot of people partake in rn unless ure naturally dark skinned or black, most people tan in the snooki way of orange-ish bronze tan
The fun/sad part is the fact that, if a black girl does cat eyeliner or randomly says something in Japanese, they would imeadly called out as asinfiathing, and she would be like accused os racism and being culturally insensible
I remember there was this black girl who had almond eyes and people kept saying she was Asian fishing because of how her eyes were shaped and then she literally had to keep showing pictures of her as a baby 😭😭 and it was a mess
Thx for this. I was always wondering how black ppl especially women feel about these styles. I mean I like the aesthetic myself but the skin color thing always seemed kinda weird. And knowing how many asian cultures demonize darker skin in both asians and western ppl, i definitely was always wondering if there were some really nasty undertones to this thing.
I wanted to make this video because overall really do love gyaru as a sub genre of fashion and what it means to young girls in japan, but I also wanted to talk about the problematic nature of gyaru as well
@@ellapastoral that‘s great man! I think it‘s super important to be critical of things you like when it‘s warranted. And your video is also really great! I really liked your takes on the thing!
yours is definitely my favorite discussion on this topic, room for nuance and taking a stand. i've admired gyaru culture the moment I found an episode of GALS! on youtube in middle school
Thank you for enjoying the video! I tried my best to be as nuanced as possible
As a Japanese,Japanese and Korean biracial. Thank you! for speaking out #ギャル culture. Because it's humiliating the "Audacity"that Japanese beauty brands don't make skin tones or any representation to✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 except #ガンダム00 . Great example a Japanese artist called #CrystalKay .
Thanks for commenting! I’m glad you like the video. I try to speak up for good representation as much as I can.
I love crystal kay!!
@@serenasongbird She is talented , But I always know her made fun from Japanese society. Same as #NaomiOsaka
I found gyaru very pretty. I just wish some people called it being ugly to stop
Yeah, IDK why people called them ugly they’re not traditional, but I think there’s beauty in unique stuff like this
there's like this one person on the gyaru reddit who called out a gyaru for overtanning on tiktok and people were getting mad over it 😭 and i remember someone having a huge argument with me cuz i said bkei/bgyaru is blackfisihing (im black and gyaru)
I remember this 😭😭 The mod had to step up and say "Hey, I can't believe I have to say this but *'blackface is not okay.'*" Wild time last month.
Hello, gal here.
The dark skin in gyaru doesnt mean "black people are aggresive and rebel" yes, some toxic and racist gyarus will tell you this, but it isnt the truth.
You see, gyaru is meant to rebel against the crazy beauty standars of japan, and one of these standars is pale skin , so kurogyarus tan their skin a lot to go against that standard. And also, gyarus that where born with dark skin are part of the kurogyaru subcultures too
The old racist styles of gyaru arent used anymore.. we all know its wrong, they are gone
Hey did you actually watch my video? Because I addressed all the points you mentioned and debunked them
@@ellapastoralyes, and i am agreeing with you, but adding up that these racist subcultures do not exist anymore.
If you see old gyaru posts you will notice that a lot of these gals were toxic, racist and very cruel to other gals, and in this same period of time the racist subcultures were seen as okay and so people participated in it, but do they participate in It anymore? Hell no! Its disgusting, offensive and sad, no actual gal will defend this.
So.. i know the point of your video is to inform about these old so called "styles" but what can we do about it now? Nobody uses it, nobody defends It, It is not even considered as gyaru anymore, what else can we do? This is a conversation that has been brought up for so many years, and in some way it gives gyaru a bad image, ive seen some comments here say that the gyaru fashion as a whole is weird and bad, but It isnt.
The people that are left saying that the racist subcultures where good are tiktok gyarus that probably dont even have a gyaru lifestyle or fashion, just people who got their info out of tiktok
Yes i know you mentioned tiktok gyarus, but again almost all of these people do not engage in the lifestyle or fashion (and are also trendhoppers that once they see gyaru is not talked about anymore , they'll be gone) Just the people who post the videos, and the people who post those weird "b-kei" videos dont have to be right (which is a weird name because kei comes from harajuku and... Gyaru is not harajuku.)
OK, cool sorry for coming off a little assertively, I’ve got an influx of people who haven’t even watched the entire video before commenting. And about your points about the fact that these people are a lot of these tiktokers might be trendhoppers idk maybe you’re right but from going on these peoples accounts their whole entire TikTok and online persona is based off the fact that they took Gyaru from making informational videos to do it make up tutorials, IDK they seem very serious to me.
I repeatedly in several different sections of my video mentioned that not all gyaru gals are doing this antiblackness thing and that’s why I specifically included the section of my favorite gyaru that I follow on TikTok who are doing unique things, as well as let people know that there is a multiverse of different gyaru subculture that are chill. I’m trying my best to moderate the comments and correct misconceptions
🍭 I love that you came with the receipts!! The evidence is LOUD. Also, I love your hair & makeup look
Thank you!!
@@ellapastoralYou’re welcome!!
Love your videos and the fact that the mic almost peaking jumpscares me multiple times 😂 I'm being genuine, I truly like being startled by the loud mic randomly cuz it's a little silly thing for me in such serious video topics. Thanks for bringing these discussions to light.
L O L I used to have even worse audios, so the jump scares are even worse 😭😭 thanks for watching
been waiting for this BADD can't wait to settle in
I’ve been working on this since January 💪💪💪
@@ellapastoral so glad youre talking abt this bcos the anitwit (weebs) community is BONKERS antiblackness left n right this vid (like the others you make) was a banger!!
Ily i agree with everythin you said ima rokku/goshikku gal and im so happy the community is not like it used to be it was so bad. Still bad but getting better.
No seriously that’s why I talked about how there’s a lot of cute creators. I follow because the community has really stepped up and I’m so proud.
okay I like the vibes, subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
Frll it's just so wrong when they start to use black foundation and box braids like giiiiirl 😢 thats blackface now !!
I rly like how other black and brown ppl have adapted gyaru to suit them. As a mixed person with naturally tan skin, I've been inspired to do the same :3. Growing up, I stood out in my home town (of mostly white ppl) and it made me feel really insecure of how my body looked and how dark I was compared to others. now that I live in a more diverse area, I'm more able to be apart of the community and participate in the fashion trends (within reason). I defiantly agree that some ppl go too far with it, even I wouldn't do what these non black ppl are doing with the gyaru styling :/. If your hair isn't built for braids, don't wear them. If you're not naturally tan or darker skinned don't. darken. your. skin. It's that simple lol.
You'd think that ppl who experienced colorism would be wise to not be racist. It's very disappointing to see that people are still out here being anti black
I have seen people even incorporate gyaru aspects into cosplay… White cosplayer specifically and I’m like see you can do this but without being a weirdo
The images used in your video as examples of Ganguro are about 20 years old and do not accurately depict the state of Gyaru fashion in Japan today. It is very, very rare to see Ganguro and especially Yamanba, in Tokyo now. I dont understand how we are criticising a fashion statement which has essentially died out. Its been mostly adopted by foreigners. This video, through the use of old images, implies that these styles are still the norm, when they are not.
Hey did you actually watch my video 🌝? Because I further explained
@ellapastoral I did watch the video. You used old images of Ganguro to make a point about modern day Gyaru fashion, and it is inaccurate about the state of Gyaru in Japan today.
The entire video that I made was to point out to the anti-blackness that has been staple of gyaru for decades despite the fact that people want to act like these substances of gyaru have disappeared into the unknown the anti-blackness of the subcultures are still present to this day. I made sure to include recipts and timestamps of people still using blackness, despite many of y’all saying that these problematic aspects have disappeared from the culture evidence is right therein your faces. I made this point over and over because I knew that people like you were going to say that stuff like this doesn’t happen anymore in modern gyaru, my whole entire point is that it does and it’s OK to say that it happened and that we’re working on making the space better but nooooo 😵💫😵💫😵💫 it’s always that’s not true ganguro and Yamaba have gone into the great unknown
@ellapastoral Just because you watch Anime doesn't make you qualified to speak about Japanese culture or interpret it through an academic lense. You DIDN'T do a huge amount of research into this topic - and you can't even be bothered to make sure the term "Gyaru" would be pronounced correctly for this video. And you used 20 year old clickbait photos for your thumbnail. When you post an analytical video you need to be prepared that people who are more experienced in this topic will respond to your video, if you can't handle genuine critique, don't make videos.
There is more to Gyaru than just 'tanning'. It was about going against homogeneous beauty standards, the deterioration of male and female gender roles in society, and was a rebellion against the classic Japanese ideal of, "the nail that stands out gets stamped down." It wasn't an innately racist subculture. I'm sorry, I've studied the Japanese language and it's culture for over 20 years and I don't agree with that narrative. I DO agree though, that there was definitely appropriation of black (hip hop) culture. The Japanese have a tendency to take cultural ideas and concepts around the world and make them uniquely Japanese. I encourage you to study more about this issue in further detail.
I also want to add that I don't deny the Japanese can be racist. I spent some time at a Japanese school a decade ago as an exchange student in Nagasaki. It was awful, the kids would call me "Baka Gaijin (stupid foreigner)" to my face even when they knew I spoke the language and could understand. I am mixed race with dark hair and skin, so I felt even more isolated. They were so racist. So definitely not trying to deny that racism doesn't exist there - it definitely does.
I have several comments on this video, and I do like the perspective you gave. I just don't think you're aware of modern gyaru.. Gals did have very dark tans in the beginning (90s), but now gyarus in modern day (mentioning how gyaru is dying, and not super popular), we have rules such as you cant tan 2-3 shades deeper than your skin tone, and braids are prohibited. B-Kei is highly frowned apon and close to no one does that style except for black people reclaiming the subculture. You made a very good point that EA people are not in this 'bubble' and are very socially aware, but you need to point out how gyaru has evolved. gyarus took the opposite of standards too far, and now days its toned down. Even Yamanba. Black people have influenced Gyaru, but it was more the OPPOSITE of their standards. The points you made are good, but I don't think you did a deep enough dive into gyaru, but rather the tanning aspect. Modern gyaru has adapted and changed, especially how the beauty standard has changed. most Yamanba gals (such as me) frown upon other gals who tan way darker than their skin.
Not to be too picky, but you also mispronounce gyaru throughout the entire video and its been a itch I cant scratch. It's gyea roo not gaa-roo.
As someone who studied the Japanese language and culture for over 20 years, this video isn't very accurate in regards to the development of Gyaru and where it is now. The use of old images of Ganguro is also misleading.
@@Linalo18 yeah, the creator acts like the old ganguro and gonguro boom are still relevant
Sorry just pronounced it the way I’ve seen people pronounce it on TikTok
@@Linalo18You guys are so dense. Both of the ways to pronounce gyaru are right - the word gyaru is a loan-word anyway; there is nothing wrong with different accents for you all Unless it's a Japanese pronounciation then it's suddenly just so wrong and itchy.
The video was directly addressing the conversations and misinformation that is spreading in recent times, specifically in the western parts of the internet, and the conversations happen to be mostly about the past. Adressing the antiblackness people are trying to cover with "it's just ea colorism" is much needed. Acknowledging modern gyaru sensibilities is not a requirement for the point to stand here, and the subculture itself seems to have come to the same point anyway.
I've typically associated the origin gyaru with Okinawa girls adopting American 90s-00s beach looks. It makes sense that American culture would bleed into Okinawa trends. Okinawa is a place Americans go party because of the US military base. So I can see why jearsy shore looks similar to it cuz its like this american beach clubing girl thing lol.
Btw, if you try saying gal but end it with a lu or ru, it would sound more accurate and be easier to understand. It's basically saying gal in a Japanese way so even if you just said gal I think that would make more sense to english and Japanese speakers. I mean no disrespect, Im just trying to help.
I literally listened to Japanese people pronounce Gyaru from songs and tikok at this point I think it might just be above me man 😭😭
This video is so good I think Ella might be the most likable commentator on RUclips omg
😭😭😭🥴🥴 thank you
@@ellapastoral I’m sorry I wrote this before I got to the point in the video where you explain your name is not Ella
lol it’s okay people call me Ella and Emma
this is the best gyaru debunking video i have ever seen, thank u so much for this. i feel much better as a beginner gaijin gyaru now!
Oh another gyaru commenting! I’m glad you liked the video 💕💕
So glad youtube recommend this vid to me randomly! When I was deep in the weeb culture in the early 2010s, people were constantly trying to explain away blackface. I'm not black and didn't have a vid like this that explains the history with a black perspective. So even tho I was uncomfy I had no resources to argue. This vid would've helped me so much when I was in anime club arguing with the weebs. You've earned a subscriber! Excited to see you grow! 💕
Thank you so so much for watching! I’m really glad you like this video. I try my best to give as much nuance, as well as giving my own experience as a black woman. Welcome aboard.
girl this is so true the ppl doing blackface for gyaru and ppl in the comments like omg they didn't knowwww 🥺🥺 like they literally have SOCIAL MEDIA they can see for themselves why tanning yourself to the darkest brown and trying to be black when they arent is just disrespectful but besides b-kei i really love the style and im glad you spoke on it.. 🍭
I love the subculture too but I had to speak my truth 😭😭
@@ellapastoral YOURE SO REAL
I love the gyaru style, though there are definitely girls that go way too dark with there tan and it comes across as blackface. Most gyaru girls now wear lighter tan or at least an orange looking shade rather than brown but unfortunately there are still those who do not see having extremely dark tans as a problem. I think it's kinda sad that the entire point of Gyaru was to rebel against the beauty standards of Japanese people needing to have pake skin and dark hair but instead they've kinda just not accepted themselves for the way they are in the complete opposite way. I'm not saying to get rid of tanning altogether if you like the way it looks on you but going to such extreme measures of either bleaching or tanning your skin to the point that you look like a completely different race is a huge issue.
i know the east asian gals who do extreme manba are doing it out of admiration for darker skin but like babieee😭😭😭 THEY AINT GOTTA DO ALLATTT
Really great video.
Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed the video 💞💞
10:16 ouu girl I’m already getting war flashbacks from that Metamorphosis manga,,,,,
Oh explain plz I’m lost
Oh 😵💫😵💫😵💫
I remember seeing this on Yandere Simulator and wondering if it was blackface. (Considering what game is about it wouldn't have surprised me). But thanks for the explanation
No, I was so confused 😭😭so I had to do my research on it and see what was going on
As a Gal myself (Hime and Agejo) I am so so happy that you made this video!!! The Problem of anti blackness is very big in Japan and made its way into some substyles of Gyaru (the B-Gyarus and Yamanba in particular) They are obviously performinh Blackface and Cultural appropriation!!! To me it's so mind boggling how people can defend Japanese people doing this!
I personally think these substyles should ONLY be allowed to be worn by black people. period
I think it's possible for Japanese people to not have a lot of cultural context. Sure, they have the internet, but how often are they interacting with us? Seeing our politics? I'm on the American side of the internet. I, for example, don't have any idea about what's going on socially, politically, or in the online space of Singapore. I'm not on that side of the internet, and as of right now, I have no incentive to explore.
That being said, if you take aesthetics from another culture, you DO have an incentive to look into said culture and history. We have to hold Japanese people and foreign people in general accountable for their refusal to engage with international politics, particularly when they try to take from specific people and cultures like African American culture
Like maybe I won’t hold your average regular Japanese girl to task but like I said in this video, these people are well accustomed enough with black culture to know how to do intricate braids and they won’t do the effort of looking at the history or seeing what they’re doing is offensive because a lot of westerns and infantilize Asians to the point of babying them and even when people are brave enough to say isn’t this weird they’ll get accosted that’s the main issue because this whole thing is because people won’t hold foreigners and Japanese people comfortable this antiblackness has been a thing since the 1980s and it’s not like the use of black culture has stopped at all
@ellapastoral My grammar made my comment insufferable to read. I am so sorry.
It’s okay sometimes my grammar is bad too.
This my third or fourth video I’ve seen from you and I just resonate so much with your takes, I feel that often people use racialised styles that don’t correlate to their race subconsciously (at least) to demean, mock or create a bad name for the inspiration for the styles
They do 100% and then they’ll try to gaslight you like you don’t have critical thinking skills
If you're going to do all this research could you at least pronounce it properly what is garu?
Damn my bad i pronounced it the way I’ve heard others pronounce it 🫤
Girl I will start off by saying I'm white American white to be exact lol 😂, but the moment u shared the pics of Asian Japanese girls with literal shades of black and brown on their faces I felt icky af, and ur damn right they have search engines as well so they should know what's wrong, also u should do a video on how there's parts of Europe that still does menstrol shows
Doing all of these videos on blackface is extremely tiring for me… Because somehow RUclips lets these videos go to the wrong side of RUclips and the last thing I want is racist Europeans coming and bullying me… I made a video talking about how much European people hate the Romani people and I’m still getting extremely problematic comments to this day about it😭😭
Bkei is so cringe and no one does it anymore also manba/yamanba(ganguro) weren't gyaru in the 90s they were their own thing. Back in the 90s you had to tan to be gyaru so gals rebellion to go against Japanese beauty standards so instead of light skin and dark hair its dark skin and light hair. Theres heavy western influence and that includes black culture. Back in the 90s ill excuse them but nowadays they have no excuse to be anti black, we don't care if in their culture alot of people are anti black theybhave the resources to educate themselves. (Im a black gal and you showcased some of my mutuals in the vid btw)
Why is it that it’s always lumped in with Gyaru then (genuine question)?
@@ellapastoral because the media said it was the same so it just kinda became accepted. It's kinda like how scene and emo get lumped together
🍭 I really enjoyed this video and was something that never sat right with me. I'm glad to see that this issue is being addressed more as this has been something that always did not sit well with me.
I wanted to make sure I did lots of research before I posted this video but no matter how much I broke it down I was like this is extremely anti-black and as someone who is super into j fashion, I couldn’t just not speak on it
@@ellapastoral exactly and you as a black creator have every right to feel that way and speak out as it is very much anti-black.
I agree with the point of this video there is anti blackness in the gyaru community. I was hesitant to watch this video because you aren't gyaru and its hard to handle the gyaru situation without extensive research and understanding. But for someone who isnt in the subculture you did a pretty good job with this video
I’ve been a fan of gyaru for a long time so I wanted to come from a very nuanced place, and I tried to do as much as I can, and listen to people in the sub culture as well as give my opinion
@@ellapastoral yeah and you did, you did a good job
This was very insightful and I love the amount of research you did on the topic. 🍭
Glad you enjoyed it!🤭🤭
Yt knows me so well, ive been wanting a nuanced look into gyaru
Finally, the RUclips algorithm doing its job😭😭
Love this 🍭
Thanks for watching until the end 🙂↕️💞
As a gyaru, I approve ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for commenting! I’m glad you liked the video.
Tanning isn't blackface... Blackface is when a person paints their face black to purposefully mock a black person. And i personally dont think hairstyles inspired by black cultures, worn by non black people is racist. It's hair man. When black people with curly hair straighten their hair no one tells them it's racist. Like i don't see a problem.
Bro you didn’t even watch the video 🍅🍅🍅🍅because I explained this over and over again
I was just stating my opinion dude, chill
Also, not everything is meant as racism. I don't see how tan gyarus are offensive? I may not be black, but honestly there are more important things to worry about than people's appearance.
I don't get how y'all say it's racist to fx braid your hair as a non black person... Like, racism as a whole is built against separating races?
Like, why does something suddenly have to be only for black people or only for white people??? I don't get that mindset tbh. It's like gatekeeping in a way... Idk if I "sound stupid" I'm genuinely just confused.
And honestly I just wish that small things like this wouldn't be considered racist... Gyaru is a form of rebellion yes, but it's not meant as blackface nor making fun of black people. It was meant as a f-u to the Japanese beauty standards, and as some japanese people were naturally tan, they tanned their skin to rebel. Not to look like black people. I'm sorry if I made you angry. I did watch the full video, and I don't have a problem with anything you said. I'm just stating my own opinion, as I feel I have a right to.
Yes, obviously not everything is going to be racism, but like I stated in my video over and over and over again, literally using black aesthetics in order to say to f you to your society continues to perpetuate extremely problematic stereotypes about black people. it’s the same way I have an issue with people who want to cosplay as Asian babies (cough cough Bella Delphine) and indulge in p0rn Distant perpetuates of any harmful narrative that Asian women are so submissive take advantage of which we’ve seen time again and again to violence against Asian women. The same thing with Black people too. like I said in my video, I’m okay with a little tan, but when is enough going to be enough being from the natural brown Japanese people are to being closer and closer to my shade and then on top of that wearing box braids. if your rebellion is my default, what the hell does that say about your ideas of Black people?
@@ellapastoral it kinda seems like you're just looking for a reason to be mad at non black people tbh. Belle Delphine isn't pretending to be asian fx, she's acting the way she is because she's catering to the porn addiction of her fans. And why is it that when a non Black girl tans AND wears braids, she's suddenly "trying to be black???" Like fair enough if you think it looks bad on them, but not everyone is trying to "be black"Some people just like the look.
And I don't think it's hateful or "anti-black" at least not intentionally.
And you said in the video that "we need to stop pretending that japanese people don't know what's offensive or not, they have access to the internet" I agree, but that doesn't mean they're trying to mock black people. And many japanese people don't speak English, so they're not going to watch western RUclips. They won't see a video like this and understand a word of it.
"Using black aesthetics to rebel" black aesthetics what? Because they braid and tan, and like the look of black hip-hop fashion? If anything they do it because they like the look. Why do they automatically get the racist stigma from it? I don't think Gyaru is meant to mimic blank people nor black culture. You can't gatekeep clothes or hair for only one race, that to me is honestly kinda racist.
So I don't see a problem with the extreme tanning, or the cultural hairstyles. It's not meant to be harmful. And I'm sorry you get offended by it, but the West and Asia have very different views, and you can't expect to change everyone's mindset, not even if it offends you sometimes. It's not like they're going around saying the N-word left and right, they're not even saying anything harmful, at least not what I've seen. So I don't get the need to suddenly put a label on everyone in that sub style of Gyaru.
according to google they do this as " a way for high school students and young adult females to resist against dominant culture's ideology on ideal physical appearance of women, as well as strict school rules and standards." basically from my understanding and from experience living in japan, its pretty much, japanese society prefers pale skin, so gyaru darken there skin, its one of the many many anti-societal fashion styles in japan, most of these sub cultures are just flat out rebelling against outdated traditional values and want more freedom of expression in there lives
edit: i was married to a "harajuku girl" for 7 years, and her friend circle included many gyaru, there honestly really nice people, got on great with all of my ex wifes friends
its not even about "black aesthetics" its just them being the opposite of what society says you should be, i thought it was about skin colour to begin with, but after living in japan for 20 years i learned a lot about how different there ways of thinking are, and at this point the only people who are offended by gyaru are the people who know nothing about gyaru, the extreme tanned ones are a specific type of gyaru, i forget what i heard them referred to as but there not the majority, most of them are just casually tanned skin
japan dont think dark skin is unattractive, they just prefer pale skin, different cultures are allowed to have different opinions, japans only really racist to the chinese (for historical reasons)
and finally, braids are not black exclusive culturally, im norwegian, and the vikings had braids, the didnt have encounters with african cultures, so viking braids were invented independent to african cultures, meaning, i have no obligation to learn black history if i braid my long hair, because my braid is my own culture, and at the same time i do not get offended if a non scandinavian braids there beards, at the end of the day hair is just hair, getting offended by someone braiding there hair in my country would be described as "roper på en murvegg" which means "yelling at a brick wall"
side note: i cannot get the right term, but vikings did develop braids independent of other cultures, theres a term for it, but it means braids have there history in white cultures
This comment just made me sigh so heavily! It’s like you watched my video and just didn’t get it. Let me break down several things for you.
Dark skin is literally seen as unattractive 😭😭 ie the association with poverty/the working class and the ramapant use of skin bleaching creams. Please look the backlash Halle (American singer) got when she was the little mermaid and how Japanese fans treated her. Japanese people (no tea no shade) were n@zi sympathizers and they hate Koreans too (maybe not on the range as they do for the Chinese) the same thing with immigrants from south east Asia.
Norwegians braids aren’t African braids at all 😭😭 idk why yall keep saying that
yall always bring up the vikings like they had pink colored box braids and edges in they hair like no they dont holy sht 😭
@@pearlykangel people often forget or more likely choose to willingly ignore the fact that vikings invented braids independently to other cultures, making them a valid point for disproving the "white people cant wear braids" argument im sick of seeing, heres another example, the spear throwing weapon called the atlatl, was developed by a handful of cultures around the world almost concurrently, and many of these cultures have still yet to learn that the other cultures even exist even after many hundreds of years
@@bigfrankfraser1391 did they create BOX BRAIDS specifically though? no, black people did.
@@pearlykangel true, but when the fuck did i mention box braids, im talking braids IN GENERAL
Hm ok I'm gyaru (kurogal and gajin gal) so let's see what this video is about
🍭from another Ghanaian to another Ghanaian. We rise!!! 🇬🇭
I be so shocked when I find other Ghanaians 😭😭😭🤝
I remember this on Twitter 7:57
Just a mess
31:00 cybr actually does an interview with a darker skin gyarus
Oh what’s the video called so I can go watch it for myself
I'm 6 mins in so future me does she ask actual gals about anything or learns enough respect to pronounce anything properly?
About half way, she's included gal tiktok videos making you think she would at least pronounce gyaru right but no were still on garu and I'm about to go insane please turn it around and talk to gals in the second half 22:12
Ok im basically at the end and like oof, girl if you still read comments please reply to me so I don't waste my breath (unless someone else wants it) coz like ok ypu poped of on like a few points but negl half the video is redundant in the morden era and space of gal, sincerely a gyaru
Oh and just in case you don't belive me here's your lolipop🍭
😩 damn OK I get it. I pronounced Gyaru wrong my points still stand. The reason why I wanted to make sure to include all of the history surrounding the problematic aspects of Gyaru is that many people in the subculture like to act as if all of the toxicity has disappeared, which isn’t true. I wanted to include that girl who is still using box braids and black aesthetics in 2023/2024, two further illustrates that point. Because I knew people like you were going to say something along the lines of this doesn’t happen anymore. But the girls who I showed in the video specifically the TikToks are actively still doing it and getting praised. But if I didn’t mention the long history of people using black aesthetics in the Gyaru community then my point of showing, modern girls still using black aesthetics wouldn’t be as hard hitting.
@ellapastoral ok and if you read my full comments you'd know I agreed you made some good points what you left out is that the com as a whole actually condems momoa having box braids, 99% of us agree its bad and you just focused on the 1% that dosent (and was kinda wrong about some aspects of gal like you mentioned) and unfortunately we can't eliminate that 1% coz in a group of people there will always be the bad. As for discussion about specifically B kei that sub (which was it even a sub really?) Has been dead for over 10 years at this point and has been talked over by the com to death, we all (at least the 99%) agree it was in bad taste and we all agree it should stay dead unless black gals want to reclaim it, as for ganguro it's also mostly dead but even if people do it times have changed and people do not go that dark and haven't for years coz again the com as a whole agreed that's bad. Yes present that history but you took up most your vid talking about bkei and ganguro as if this still happens today which it really dosent, hell you said momoa is bkei when she really isn't she's reinwa gal which some JP gals literally argue isn't even gyaru. And yes I will harp on you for pronouncing gyaru wrong because frankly as someone working towards a degree to another if you're gonna present a subject esspecially when wanted to be perceived as knolagble on it you could at the very least learn how it's pronounced its basic respect really, same with the cybergrl comment about wanting her to talk to black gals when she already did, like i get your busy but when you looked up her og vid (which is also long as heck) you could have seen if she spoke more on it or at least seen in the recommended the videos she did with black gals. Gals are getting upset coz trust me we care about the subculture hell of a lot so we get defensive and to basically be told we all are basically enabling racisim is offensive when we actively call people out for shit behaviour, like if you looked at lolcow sure them bitches need to take their heads out their asses but to lable the whole com? It's irresponsible and honestly comes off bias and I know you included 2 gals at the end you liked but like agian that dosent fix what the video comes off as. Over all as I said you made some good point, some irrelevant to morden day ones and then some that just show the lack of research past surface level that wouldn't have happened if you asked littrely 1 gal about the subculture, also like ngl tiktok for the most part is a shit place to learn about gal. Like I'm not hating on you personally don't get me wrong you seem like a lovely person I just think the vid should have stayed in the oven a little longer and had some extra ingredients if you will
This such an interesting video thank you so much!!
Glad you enjoyed it!🌝🧚🏾♀️
Calling one of the gyaru subcultures mamba/yamamba and gangankuro is such nasty work 🙃
And then not seeing that it looks like minstrelsy word for word, bar for bar??? Cmon bruh. Make it make sense 🤦🏾
Edit: Very well done video btw. ✨👏🏾 Im a bit of a weeb as much as the next person, but we can not let shit like this slide, especially during a time where its suddenly cool to be racist. Gyaru is cool, gyaru is cute, until its literally blackface. 🍭
No seriously I was like make it make sense yall but yes I’m really into girly stuff like this but I was like now friends what’s goin on 😭😭😭
Loved this video! 🍭
Thanks for watching til the end 💞💞🙂↔️
Amazing video
Thank you!💞
@@ellapastoral i learned a lot thank u v much !
Great video as always 🍭
Thank you 😋
Almost 12 k sistah ❤
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Also that video of "the girl" that went viral, she is a modern egg model btw
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@@ellapastoral a model for egg magazine, that's why she's so popular and it makes what she did even more problematic since she's one of the faces of the biggest gyaru magazine
@@Gimmie_my_legoz egg also exploits kogals
@@pearlykangel yeah I know I used to follow them but then they started to do that kogal stuff with kids and idk I started to feel uncomfortable and promptly unfollowed them. It makes me sad cause I love egg magazine but it's so fucked up I hope those kids are ok
@@ellapastoral egg is a popular gyaru magazine along with popteen and more. So egg models are gals that are under egg as models not to be confused with some gals that just end up in the magazine cause of photos taken from the street and stuff
Edit: also sorry for the late reply
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Cyber girl did talk to poc/black gals i think tho like I'm pretty sure she made a video it was a while back tho
I’ve seen people mention this do you know the title so I can watch it myself
@@ellapastoral life as a black gyaru with jandora and the one she made with haruka
There is a "y"! Sorry but it was getting to me 😅 gee-ya-rue
Damn I was pronouncing it mad wrong my bad
I know this is gonna cook!!
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🍭 this is the lollipop my computer has im sorry its not the one that you asked for- at least i don't think it is as this one is pink.
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“May the power of Christ compel you! 🤣” great video 🍭 And to the people saying you used old images and it’s not still happening the same way it was before…. Stop the cap 😆 it’s a niche fashion yes, but those girls are STILL out there in Shinjuku Gyaru-ing it up 😆
Thanks for watching until the end. I decided to watch my video in incognito mode, and literally on the side panel you can see people still doing these problematic fashion styles,and posting RUclips videos as recently as seven years ago
However when you look at the roots of black face where that term actually came from much of what people call black face today is not. I notice many self project their complexion obsession onto others. Which when you think about it is very ignorant. There are all manner of complexions from very light to very dark in all ethnicities. Just because you personally may have never seen that complexion in that ethnicity does not exclude its existence. Black face was a deplorable and disgusting act it wasn’t just the painting of one’s face which was not than just tanner. It involved mannerisms and speech as well as caricature. Unfortunately society seems to indoctrinate this belief that the greatest suffering wins. It creates division. Notice how no one ever talks about the more than millions of things all ethnicities have in common is always a focus on the division. Theres always this need to create an us vs them dichotomy and imo it’s very damaging to future of humanity. I highly doubt that gyaru are trying some subtle back handed put down. They see something they like and they want to imitate the way all humans do. If we can’t learn to share especially when there is nothing new under the sun then as a species we need to grow up. Unity and the removal of complexion in any conversation needs to happen
🍅 🍅🍅 I can tell you didn’t even try to watch my video in its entirety because I talk about the importance of sharing culture but being respectful. People like yall are the problem because instead of learning to do better so we can be united people like you would rather close your eyes and excuse nonsense 😒
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Can I ask why black people are so protective of their braid culture? Why so much care about hairstyles? Im eager to follow your advice and stay respectful but Idk why braids are so important to you as much as i can understand the blackface situation
A lot of black people are forced to cut their hair short or straighten it in order to fit into societal beauty norms of tight silhouettes when it comes to the head, as well as school and work dress codes that don't allow "big" or "distracting" hair. In order to keep the hair healthy and not affected by harsh physical conditions, black people often need to wear "protective" styles that keeps the hair tightly bound, such as braids or knots. A lot of non black people do braids for fashion, while black people do it to protect their hair.
It's because our hair was and still is heavily discriminated against for literally no reason. We are protective or these styles because when we wear them we're called ghetto, aggressive and uneducated but when non black people wear them they're edgy and cool. For example Zendaya once wore locks and a white woman said she looks like she smelled like some oil and weed while Kylie Jenner was praised for looking stylish in braids. Black kids today are told to straighten their hair or to take out their locks in order to look presentable and smart and black people in workplaces can get fired for wearing black hairstyles or wearing their natural hair. Hair to us is another way the world discriminates against us. Please look up the case of a young black boy who was denied an education (I forgot the state but it's an American school) because he has locks. This case is still ongoing but the only people who care about that boy are black people while the non black people who only wear our hairstyles to look tough and cool aren't saying anything and they don't care.
@@captaincaspian42 thank you for replying. I understand now. I didn't have much context because where I live there's almost no people with darker skin
@@priscilla8068 thank you for replying and providing additional resources, I'll check out the situations youve mentioned. It's really horrible what happens
A lot of the people who replied to you did a good job explaining why black hair is so important to black people, but to summarize it we're still demonized for how our hair naturally grows out of our scalp. May It Be by other black people or by our jobs or even worse our schools black hair still isn't being respected and to see other races of people practically be praised and called edgy or whatever positive adjective being applied to when they do braids or other Afrocentric Styles is so disheartening because when we live in our truth with the hair that God gave us we get shamed
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Gyaru culture is weird
No its not.
It’ss only a few weirdos that make it weird, Most people who are gyarus are chill
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