Hearing all of this I'm just so glad to live in such enlightened times where clearly none of this could ever happen - can you imagine, a company having mercenaries and enslaving people in foreign countries? No, we live in the modern world where companies are well regulated and certainly don't have ridiculous amounts of power over their workers or the natural resources they exploit. That's why our rare earth mineral mining, our avocado or pistacchio farming, our bottled water and our meat packing industry are all famous for being the most ethical they possible can be and definitely not places of incomprehensible terror run by ghouls directly from the darkest ring of hell. So glad mankind has improved so much. Proud of us.
I was very curious about which one could possibly be the most evil company and then as soon as Robert said 1600s I was like "ah... East India Company" lmfao
kinda wild how in dutch history we are (or at least were 15 years ago when i was in school) still taught that "well, the whole imperialism thing was maybe slightly bad, but it was responsible for the wealth we built and everything good around you today." Like, it's not entirely wrong, but the framing is so twisted, it tries to instill some sense of pride
So wild that the East India Companies (Dutch and British) weren't so much companies in the modern sense as semi-independent states, with their own armies. Not mercenaries, professional soldiers same as a national army.
It's always fun as a Dutchman to hear Americans pronounce Jan Pieterszoon Coen as 'Zune Cone'. It actually references his father, meaning 'son of Pieter', pronounced more like 'Yan Peterzone Coon' Fun fact: I lived very near a street named after him, because we absolutely have that kind of 'patriotism' today. Our second to last prime minister referenced the DEIC mentality as an important one we should bring back. After WWII some generals and politicians actually almost performed a coup over the governments decision to recognize Indonesian independence... in principle. It's such a fucked up history.
Fun factoid: The Swedish chapter of the EIC was probably the least successful one - mostly because the Swedes didn't really do the colonialism bit so good. They'd just come out of being at war with everyone, so their colonies were small and traded more than they conquered or enslaved. The Dutch yoinked almost all their colonies. Eventually, the Swedish EIC ended up as just a glorified ferry service between Scandinavia and the US.
Fun factoid addendum: so acclaimed were the Swedes for their ferrying prowess, that the company's vessels were popularly known as Swedish Fish...from which the modern candy gets its name!
Be glad that there is no video. If there was, RUclips would interrupt it with ads every five minutes. Audio-only programming is interrupted much less often.
Kind of humbling to realize that by the time he was my age, Jan Piezowhatsits Coen had already tortured and killed far more people than I ever have or likely will, built a global nutmeg empire, *and* died of a horrible tropical disease.
There are 2 other comments on this video. It’s the best piece of history content I’ve consumed for a long time. The video has under 5k views and the channel has under 10k subs. wtf?
Did you not listen to the video? The evil one was the Dutch East India Company, totally separate and rivals to the British EIC. Most of the video is about the Dutch killing people and conquering lands and peoples. To a large extent the British EIC was just trading and kinda ended up controlling land.
Monsanto really gives most companies a run for their money... Monsanto would be a great episode! It includes companies hiding shit, Justice Thomas, RFK, great lawyers... It's never ending with that company!
Huge tangent guys but i am obsessed with the idea that the Cool Ranch from Doritos is a place you can visit. In my headcanon all the cowboys have 90's windbreakers and frosted tips and Guy Fieri buys his kitchen supplies there
Malic acid comes from apples, for anyone who was wondering. Well, it was originally isolated from them. That’s where the name comes from. It exists in most fruits and is like citric acid’s meaner cousin. Still harmless in reasonable doses but it’s the sour part of very sour candies
I'd probably go for any number of companies that directly participated and profited from the Holocaust, the East India Companies are certainly the most powerful and influential companies ever (and probably the most profitable) but not necessarily directly involved in the most evil things so at best you'd wind up with a utlitarian axis because they lasted for so long which would inevitably conclude that they had achieved some good and some evil (a lot of both) but probably weren't doing human experiments on a mass scale in concentration camps for future pharmaceutical benefit.
It's tricky. The original term "genos" is described as basically being a tribe linked by blood, but it was also used only for humans. (A noble family would collectively refer to themselves as a genos to stand apart from other nobles, for example) It only got used as a biological descriptor of a class of animals in the 1600s. The person that coined the term (300 years after the biological use came into existence) stated that he uses the definition of "gene-" for "a tribe", which would not apply to non-humans. Personally, I think that the distinction is arbitrary and intentionally rendering a non-endangered species extinct should be considered genocide from a biological standpoint. But my opinion probably won't change the mind of all of modern academia.
Hearing all of this I'm just so glad to live in such enlightened times where clearly none of this could ever happen - can you imagine, a company having mercenaries and enslaving people in foreign countries? No, we live in the modern world where companies are well regulated and certainly don't have ridiculous amounts of power over their workers or the natural resources they exploit. That's why our rare earth mineral mining, our avocado or pistacchio farming, our bottled water and our meat packing industry are all famous for being the most ethical they possible can be and definitely not places of incomprehensible terror run by ghouls directly from the darkest ring of hell. So glad mankind has improved so much. Proud of us.
I was expecting Nestle
I was expecting any of the big German companies during the 30s and 40s…
I was very curious about which one could possibly be the most evil company and then as soon as Robert said 1600s I was like "ah... East India Company" lmfao
Same, I was like nestle? Oh it's the voc.
I immediately thought about the United Fruit company because I'm latin American, then I was like: "Oh yeah, East India Company definitely."
kinda wild how in dutch history we are (or at least were 15 years ago when i was in school) still taught that "well, the whole imperialism thing was maybe slightly bad, but it was responsible for the wealth we built and everything good around you today." Like, it's not entirely wrong, but the framing is so twisted, it tries to instill some sense of pride
So wild that the East India Companies (Dutch and British) weren't so much companies in the modern sense as semi-independent states, with their own armies. Not mercenaries, professional soldiers same as a national army.
That's a natural consequence of no regulation on a legal company.
This is what anarcho-
capitalism would look like.
Dull fact: mace and nutmeg come from the same plant.
That’s a fun fact. Dare I say, a spicy fact 😉 I’ll see myself out….
It's always fun as a Dutchman to hear Americans pronounce Jan Pieterszoon Coen as 'Zune Cone'. It actually references his father, meaning 'son of Pieter', pronounced more like 'Yan Peterzone Coon'
Fun fact: I lived very near a street named after him, because we absolutely have that kind of 'patriotism' today. Our second to last prime minister referenced the DEIC mentality as an important one we should bring back. After WWII some generals and politicians actually almost performed a coup over the governments decision to recognize Indonesian independence... in principle.
It's such a fucked up history.
Balkenende did get absolutely bodied for that.
@@tamarabrugara He's crying all the way to the bank about that. Made millions after his stint in government.
Fun factoid: The Swedish chapter of the EIC was probably the least successful one - mostly because the Swedes didn't really do the colonialism bit so good. They'd just come out of being at war with everyone, so their colonies were small and traded more than they conquered or enslaved. The Dutch yoinked almost all their colonies. Eventually, the Swedish EIC ended up as just a glorified ferry service between Scandinavia and the US.
They were all different corporations, not branches of the same entity, though I'm sure you know that.
Fun factoid addendum: so acclaimed were the Swedes for their ferrying prowess, that the company's vessels were popularly known as Swedish Fish...from which the modern candy gets its name!
How is this not a huge channel? You deserve to at least have like 50k subs
Since it is audio only most people download the podcast from other sources Apple/Spotify etc
It's not been on YT for long. They should get a cheap camera tbh.
Because the bastards at RUclips are too busy pushing Steven Crowder, Fox News, Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan and Prager U content.
It's been a podcast for a pretty long time- like 5 or 6 years I think? They only recently began reuploading to youtube.
Be glad that there is no video. If there was, RUclips would interrupt it with ads every five minutes. Audio-only programming is interrupted much less often.
27:43 *HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS*
topic around 27:30 has aged well
Manic depressive is now just called Bipolar. This is how I learned my dad was bipolar. It explains a lot.
Kind of humbling to realize that by the time he was my age, Jan Piezowhatsits Coen had already tortured and killed far more people than I ever have or likely will, built a global nutmeg empire, *and* died of a horrible tropical disease.
There are 2 other comments on this video. It’s the best piece of history content I’ve consumed for a long time. The video has under 5k views and the channel has under 10k subs. wtf?
It’s a very successful podcast
Ah, it had to be the British East India Company. There just can't be any competition for that title.
Did you not listen to the video? The evil one was the Dutch East India Company, totally separate and rivals to the British EIC. Most of the video is about the Dutch killing people and conquering lands and peoples. To a large extent the British EIC was just trading and kinda ended up controlling land.
the Dutch East India Company is the only contender, really. Distant third place is probably either an arms company or Coca Cola.
Purdue pharma could give EITC a run for its money imo
@@youmukonpaku3168I think Nestle is worse than coca cola in terms of active malice, they horde water and lied about formula remember.
I dunno... Nestle still exists, after all.
Monsanto really gives most companies a run for their money... Monsanto would be a great episode! It includes companies hiding shit, Justice Thomas, RFK, great lawyers... It's never ending with that company!
“Neil Armstrong put the ASS in AStronaut!” 😂 to the moon with you Neil!! Go on! Get!
Huge tangent guys but i am obsessed with the idea that the Cool Ranch from Doritos is a place you can visit.
In my headcanon all the cowboys have 90's windbreakers and frosted tips and Guy Fieri buys his kitchen supplies there
The Crimson Permanent Assurance
Also, people aren't wearing enough hats.
Maybe the REAL pirates were the trading ships that we plundered along the way
"Maybe you hate Twitter because they banned your favorite conspiracy theorist." Oh how times have changed.
The Spice must flow
I heard Guild of Calamatious intent and squealed
I thought the title was a play on words and going to be about the CIA.
Malic acid comes from apples, for anyone who was wondering. Well, it was originally isolated from them. That’s where the name comes from. It exists in most fruits and is like citric acid’s meaner cousin. Still harmless in reasonable doses but it’s the sour part of very sour candies
You don’t have to kill an elephant. You just have to get an elephant to say fuck this! Lol
Zildjian cymbals is celebrating 400 years this year (2023)
Congō Gumi has it's 1500:th anniversary coming up in a mere few decades.
Googlezon, thats a name i haven't heard in a long time
This is putting Age of Empires III in a _very_ different context...
Better update that. A contender has arrived
Clive: bad guy but he had hutzpah
Hitler : me 2 😮
I'd probably go for any number of companies that directly participated and profited from the Holocaust, the East India Companies are certainly the most powerful and influential companies ever (and probably the most profitable) but not necessarily directly involved in the most evil things so at best you'd wind up with a utlitarian axis because they lasted for so long which would inevitably conclude that they had achieved some good and some evil (a lot of both) but probably weren't doing human experiments on a mass scale in concentration camps for future pharmaceutical benefit.
Top tier channel
I waa expecting Union Carbide
Hilarious “people are just gonna start sniping ceos”
just history repeating itself
I know that voice! It's MacDaddy SWAIM!!!
Does destroying most of a plant species in the name of greed count as genocide? Because if so, this was multiple simultaneous genocides.
It's tricky. The original term "genos" is described as basically being a tribe linked by blood, but it was also used only for humans. (A noble family would collectively refer to themselves as a genos to stand apart from other nobles, for example) It only got used as a biological descriptor of a class of animals in the 1600s.
The person that coined the term (300 years after the biological use came into existence) stated that he uses the definition of "gene-" for "a tribe", which would not apply to non-humans.
Personally, I think that the distinction is arbitrary and intentionally rendering a non-endangered species extinct should be considered genocide from a biological standpoint. But my opinion probably won't change the mind of all of modern academia.
@@liger04... thanks for explaining the joke, I guess? ^^;;
The Dutch East Indies Company?
Now to listen ....
Oh. Huh, I was right. Those f*ckers are the GOAT of corporate bullsh!t.
The ABIR Congo Company. Hands down.
Build A Bear = Bilderberg