"The true authenticity of photographs for me is that they usually manipulate and lie about what is in front of the camera, but never lie about the intentions behind the camera.” ― Wolfgang Tillmans, German photographer
great video! Back in 2017 when they were Macphun, I was Matt Granger's videographer and we flew to Tokyo to make a video series for Luminar! Really cool company. Never got a chance to use their software personally, but Matt was always a fan. This stuff is really impressive. I'll have to try it out now!
The problem I have with it (and the plethora of other incredibly powerful tools at our disposition now) is that it makes me feel lost in the endless possiibilities. Art is often at its best when faced with restraint and obstacles to overcome. Creativity suffers when there are no limits. That would be why the Original Star Wars trilogy will always be the best, for example, lol ;)
Painters of canvass use their discretion in what combinations of paints they choose to mix in order to simulate the picture in their minds eye. Impressionist took this concept to a different degree.
Nice to see you talk about photography. Didn’t know how much you enjoyed still shooting as well. That’s awesome! You’re not just the cinema/video shooter anymore to us. Great video.
My personal opinion is what when you start to add or replace anything that was in the original shot then it becomes digital art and ceases to be photography. Light, shadow and saturation adjustments, knock yourself out. Removal/repair are more of a grey area depending on what the shot is for Reportage, no. Fine art etc, yep. The photographer or artist can present what they want of course, but I find it annoying when the image gets presented as 'real' if it half of it wasn't there when when the shot was taken.
@@philipbloom I did. I just happened to catch it pretty much as a it was posted. The part that resonated with me and why I commented was where you are editing the giraffe with the sunlight and made a comment along the lines of that form of processing becoming art. At the start you asked when is something not a photo and that was sort of where my crossover lies. Such as I'd do it for enjoyment, share it, but I'd never enter it into a photography competition as I'd feel it's comething I created and not captured. But I know others don't feel the same and would be happy to enter an image that has gone through the full treatment and that their personal crossover from edited photo into digital composite is different to my own. But for all of us that lines just going to get more blurred as tech improves.
Definitely get the sense that you're treading on egg-shells a bit with this video and I've felt the same when producing my own content about this technology. There are many legitimate commercial uses for apps like Luminar Neo - i.e. real estate photographers don't often get to choose the day they shoot on and swapping out the sky is perfectly understandable. My personal view is that (with a couple of cavets) an image ceases to become a photograph when you stray outside the traditional RAW develop tools that work with existing pixel data. When you add sun rays or the like it becomes artwork. I think cropping, straightening, dirt and dust spot removal also falls within the bounds of legitimate photo processing. But when you start removing powerlines (as Luminar Neo does brilliantly) then (personally speaking) it feels like you've crossed a line. There's nothing inherently wrong with any of this of course - I don't think an image substantially altered in Luminar Neo is 'worse' than a more traditionally processed photograph - but they do become separate entities in my eyes. Thanks for the video Philip - always a pleasure to watch your work. :)
Excellent points. I, like you, am old. I recently took a whole season to shoot with just film, again. So refreshing and great for sharpening up old skills. The Luminar NEO is interesting. I purchased after your video as I am a photoshop user, but wanted to see what else can be done, faster. Good stuff... thanks as always for the videos you put out. By far, you're one of the best in this medium. Cheers from across the pond here in the States.
@@philipbloom I know the feeling. I look back at photos taken when I moved to Poland and see such younger versions of my parents and much like yourself, I have an instant sad face, I wish I could have them with me forever.
I enjoyed this very much. I'll take all the tools I can get. Years ago when Luminar 3 for Windows was incredibly buggy, nevertheless I had a photo of two people talking in a brick-floored courtyard with a lovely stucco wall draped with flowers behind. Problem: lighting was FLAT. Couldn't fix it in PS or LR but a preset in Luminar did it fantastically well. I shot a zillion pix at a dress rehearsal recently and I'll be trying to recreate the feeling of the play in Neo. Wish me luck - I hope Neo isn't only for the outdoors.
Just a note that Photoshop has also got a pretty decent automatic "one click" sky replacement tool. Haven't tested both, so can't say whether it is as good, but it does exist ;-)
Thanks Philip, touched on a very interesting topic - photography. Undoubtedly, post-processing tools are a creative process, but, apparently, a measure is needed here too.
Anyone can do what they want of course, this is after all just an easier photoshop. Using it very subtly it the way for me but I can’t lecture others of course. The main thing which i forgot to add to the video is if you take the challenge of getting it in camera away then the joy of photography will slowly bleed away…
@@philipbloom Right observation, Philip. You always offer us a lot of good knowledge and reflections on our work of capturing images to tell good stories. Our director and founder has cultivated a habit for decades that when we are very involved with a new camera full of new features, we start a project where we use some of the oldest equipment. This contrast invariably spurs us on to improve ourselves by doing more with less. And it's very pleasurable. A big and fraternal hug from your friends in Brazil! Televisual Team
By reading others comments, I'm not really sure, we watched the same video 😅 Yes, I think it's cheating, I'm a hobby photographer and don't need to sell my work. So I'f a photo turns out "bad" I don't make it good, or better with any alterations, a boring view, maybe. But for me the creation part is in the camera, and not by the computer screen. Sidenote, there were a AI generated photo in a Sony competition that got headlines in general media, a couple of months ago. Never saw much attention of it here on youtube though, thought It would be the other way around.
You know I was thinking and it may be something you’ve already referenced in a video, film or article etc. but photographs and in a different way videos are the only way we can currently experience the world through a different persons eyes. It’s currently really the only way we can see how the same thing, place, person can look different to different people. As if you can five people to take a photo of the same place, item, thing, person the five photos will all be different. Focusing on different things that that person relates to or find more interesting or noticeable!. The same with video but it’s moving obviously. You can literally use the camera as if it’s your own eyes giving the viewer the opportunity to experience that place as close to as you did as is currently I believe possible!. I feel photography/videography is that fundamentally important as it really can tell a story of how someone sees the world. Take someone living in poverty, if they visited say monoco with camera. I’d bet their photographs and videos would be widely widely different compared to a millionaire who visits wealthy places every week and lives in luxury!.
Interesting dilemma. I fully agree that you should always do your very best to get it in camera, but as they say, sometimes life gets in the way. (Should that sun be on the left or right) you demonstrate some powerful tools, and that raises some interesting questions. Thank you for this video. It’s thought provoking, and I guess that’s the point, huh.
Whenever I take a photo, I always see something different in my mind's eye. To me, the edited photo is always represents what I had originally seen in my head. Whether it's landscape or a composited fictional image I made of a person levitating, it's always a representation of my mind's eye. I believe that applies to A.I. too. In Midjourney for example, I see something in my mind and type out prompts to create an image. I edit my prompts until I see the image that closely resembles what I saw in my mind's eye.
I’ve been using luminar neo for my portrait and headshot work importing Fuji raws and man it’s slow. I use a Mac mini m1 with 16gb ram. For batch processing work I still use capture one and only bring in max 10 photos at a time to process in luminar.
reminds me of when "TRON" (the first one) was denied entry into the special effects oscars because they used computers and were called "cheaters". im sure if you went back to the 70's and told people "in the future youll be able to adjust your ISO afterwards on a computer, as well as sharpen your image and push the colors, shadows and highlights" they'd call you a cheater
to anyone in the Philip Bloom community that really know cameras well, can you please suggest me what camera I should look into based on my ideas. I looked into camcorders like the Panasonic HC-X2 as well as Cinema cameras like the Sigma FP or Black Magic's upcoming pocket L format camera for 2023 or their Pocket 6 K camera... But I know too little of all the modern day tech to tell what camera is best on doing what I want, so here I am asking around in hope of hearing what people that worked with cameras a lot more than me think might be the right choice, this is what I aim to do: I see that many cameras no matter they are camcorders or cinema cameras today cost about the same on this level we are talking now... but what I want to do is poetic documentary work .. I am very fascinated by Alexey Titarenko, though he was a photographer not a videographer and lived in a past time... I also like the documentary, "the Fog of War" I like to make documenters based on the Poetic Mood, So, I like to use graphics, animations, maps, charts, or diagrams to explain complex or abstract concepts, show data or statistics but in a symbolic style and not a to me cold and borring news piece way... I want to create transitions mixed with slowmotion of people in protests, arguments or neglect of each other's point of view, showing empathy vs non-empathy in people's actions towards each other. I like to show not tell. When I have the details of people's facial emotions as well as slow motions and long exposure on video just like Alexey Titarenko but now on video and not in still photo, I like to then use music, sound effects, or ambient noise to create atmosphere, emotion, and contrast. I am a trained actor and started a master in documentary film production that I never finished, so I got some knowledge of those things from an academic standpoint and so like to also use voice-over narration, text, or subtitles to provide additional information, context, or commentary to what happens between people, show mass hysteria or mass control. I want people, the audience to see how people are being used and ask themselves what they want, ask them if they believe they can live without polarisation and politics. I understand is an ambitious goal, so I want to just start small catching a minute here and there when out and about in town to train my own tech ability to catch it on camera... but what camera can do long exposure , making my work so close to that Russian photographer that I can find the perfect shutter speed on video to mimic the style of Alexey Titarenko? ruclips.net/video/ALwahKTuJfY/видео.html as well as doing normal poetic mood video / film work? thanks for getting back, I know too little of all the tech in cameras today. I had my university training in journalism, documentary work and acting in early 2000 and since then I have not touched cameras. I see a lot has happened since we had tape cassettes in our broadcast camcorders when I did my internships in the Washington Bureau and other places working in Capital Hill and similar areas catching news and reportage... so now I wanna start again, but with more in depth documentary work in a more cinema like , poetic style... So I am asking around on RUclips now to those that work with the latest cameras to understand better what might be the right camera for my ideas. thanks for hearing me out! Kind regards, Christopher / Sweden
Thanks for sharing... what is cheating in an age where reality is malleable. But then again, mythology has bent the reality of entire civilisations to its will.
If you are a travel photographer and tell the world how you would wait weeks to capture an image, that is great. Elia Locardi has stated many times how he would wait days to get the perfect picture. But now he has gone over to the dark side and replaces the sky in many of his photos. His images are no longer photographs but composites when he does that. He is no longer the great photographer that everyone believed he was because we all know how difficult it is to capture the right photo. There are no shortcuts in becoming a great photographer.
I don't necessarily think AI has changed much other than it muddies how people perceive the value of the works. One of the important aspects that has always been applicable is "transparency", news related works that have been doctored can create dangerous narratives of course, but that's always been a danger. Where I feel more uneasy about AI assistance is that it makes creating altered works so incredibly easy, and that means it's in the hands of more people that would deliberately look to gain from it unethically.
@@philipbloom We're about the same age I would guess (I'm about to turn 64) If you do a search for "Linotype Hell Pagination System" you can see a few photos and a few articles on them. There were massive machines that required raised computer floors. These huge disk packs (only 500MB) but they were amazing.
Is there a slider to add UFOs? I like space aliens and feel like their space ships can enhance any shot. ...sorry couldn't help myself. Thanks for another great review!!
Great Video, I first shot a Pentax K1000 in highschool in the 80's, the switch to digital for me was a new discovery, but I have thought a lot about returning for some work to film, namely 6x9 on 120 film. I've been watching out for a Fuji GX680 III that has popped up on the used market locally a couple times now.
It's a handy tool. Sometimes we just don't have the opportunity (especially on trips) to wait on one spot for the perfect sky, though everything else is great. Sometimes, especially in touristy spots, the other tourists/photographers get in the way or crowd the photo. And this tool can help bring your original vision to life. Should photo manipulation ever be allowed in journalism? Certainly not. But if you want to make a pretty image, then use whatever tools you have available. If you want to be a purist and get it all 'in-camera', then by all means, that is completely valid. But if you need to tweak an image to take it to another level (either because of the random weather conditions, etc), I also think it's just fine. Photo manipulation has been around for ages. And every new generation of editing tools and camera tools will always feel like 'cheating' to the old schoolers. That's how it's always been. :)
@@philipbloom Yes. Not sure why my comment seems to have been interpreted as contrary to the points made in your video. My response was more in general for other viewers. Cheers :)
AI tools terrify me, because they achieve perfection with ease. Knowing that no matter how hard I try I can never stand out among these fake images, is quite discouraging.
I just can’t get behind Skylum’s sales practices. I’ve bought many of their products over the years, but found that they have never addressed software issues. Instead, they update the UI and roll out another paid version about every year. I’m really curious how long Neo will last before it’s replaced.
Hi there! We are now focused on developing Luminar Neo and making it the best software it can possibly be instead of creating a new software. Therefore, we constantly release new updates to help with bugs and performance improvement :)
@@skymakai Adobe did updates pre creative cloud but the big new features were released annually. It sounds like Skylum are going to stick with Neo now anyway and keep developing that, which is the right way to do things!
Everyone should do what they want, and what feels right to them. It's only cheating if you enter a sky replacement photo into a natural landscape competition or something.
They are both forms of cheating because they don’t honor the intentions of the competition. It is about intention and integrity. Personally, I don’t know how people enjoy landscape photography if they just show up at a place and snap a photo and then replace the sky and add a tree. It is about the hunt, the effort put into a photo, the dance with weather conditions, and luck.
I wish I hadn’t made the title a question. Makes me feel most people post their opinion without watching the video as it’s not black and white like your state.
There is a product for every customer how about food photography thats perfect example how they fake the product does it mean the are chefs? No photographes? Maybe designers? For sure is that cheating?? Photography is the entire proces from start to finish imagine artistic painter using printer 🤣🤣🤣
i think there should be at least some transparency about art made with the use of AI, quite so with photography and video, i fear this tools making it soooo easy to completely manipulate images will make geniune images (ones with a bit of color and thats it) nigh nonexistent, i fear we will loose quite a bit of nuance.
@@philipbloom im talking more broad terms and about photography in general, but i guess what i say applies to any kind of deep photographic manipulation, by its just that AI tools make these techniques ubiquitous and that poses a bunch of potential "issues", though im really interested in your take on pure AI generated images, thats a completely different sort of scary.
Were it not for a long-term involvement and reliance on Lightroom/Photoshop, I would jump a the chance to support Skylum, simply for their continued defiance in the face of an existential threat from the insanity of Putin's offensive invasion of Ukraine, where Luminar was developed.
All very clever tech but very sad that this is where art is heading. You have the talent to never need any of this AI nonsense. I understand it may be fun but it is leading us to a place where originality and skill will be redundant.
"The true authenticity of photographs for me is that they usually manipulate and lie about what is in front of the camera, but never lie about the intentions behind the camera.” ― Wolfgang Tillmans, German photographer
great video! Back in 2017 when they were Macphun, I was Matt Granger's videographer and we flew to Tokyo to make a video series for Luminar! Really cool company. Never got a chance to use their software personally, but Matt was always a fan. This stuff is really impressive. I'll have to try it out now!
Just took your advice and purchased the lifetime membership for Luminar Pro. Thanks again for the great content, keep it coming!
Philip Bloom, the only person i can watch his videos at 1x even if it is 20 hours long. I hope to meet you one day in Skiathos.
The problem I have with it (and the plethora of other incredibly powerful tools at our disposition now) is that it makes me feel lost in the endless possiibilities. Art is often at its best when faced with restraint and obstacles to overcome. Creativity suffers when there are no limits. That would be why the Original Star Wars trilogy will always be the best, for example, lol ;)
I think I get that across in the video..
Painters of canvass use their discretion in what combinations of paints they choose to mix in order to simulate the picture in their minds eye. Impressionist took this concept to a different degree.
Nice to see you talk about photography. Didn’t know how much you enjoyed still shooting as well. That’s awesome! You’re not just the cinema/video shooter anymore to us. Great video.
Ditto , very professional , always enjoy his presentations.
Interesting debate and video. Thanks for your thoughts and time, Philip :)
Finished watching Fenchel & Janisch's video and now yours: Really appreciate the professional insights as always 😀
Extremely helpful and down to earth as usual, thank you Philip!
Oh good, we got the kitties at the end.
My personal opinion is what when you start to add or replace anything that was in the original shot then it becomes digital art and ceases to be photography. Light, shadow and saturation adjustments, knock yourself out. Removal/repair are more of a grey area depending on what the shot is for Reportage, no. Fine art etc, yep.
The photographer or artist can present what they want of course, but I find it annoying when the image gets presented as 'real' if it half of it wasn't there when when the shot was taken.
May I ask if you watched the video before writing the comment?
@@philipbloom I did. I just happened to catch it pretty much as a it was posted. The part that resonated with me and why I commented was where you are editing the giraffe with the sunlight and made a comment along the lines of that form of processing becoming art. At the start you asked when is something not a photo and that was sort of where my crossover lies. Such as I'd do it for enjoyment, share it, but I'd never enter it into a photography competition as I'd feel it's comething I created and not captured. But I know others don't feel the same and would be happy to enter an image that has gone through the full treatment and that their personal crossover from edited photo into digital composite is different to my own. But for all of us that lines just going to get more blurred as tech improves.
@@DigiDonkey any competitions need to have strict rules. Any submissions should be accompanied by the raw photo if being entered as a real photo.
Definitely get the sense that you're treading on egg-shells a bit with this video and I've felt the same when producing my own content about this technology. There are many legitimate commercial uses for apps like Luminar Neo - i.e. real estate photographers don't often get to choose the day they shoot on and swapping out the sky is perfectly understandable. My personal view is that (with a couple of cavets) an image ceases to become a photograph when you stray outside the traditional RAW develop tools that work with existing pixel data. When you add sun rays or the like it becomes artwork. I think cropping, straightening, dirt and dust spot removal also falls within the bounds of legitimate photo processing. But when you start removing powerlines (as Luminar Neo does brilliantly) then (personally speaking) it feels like you've crossed a line. There's nothing inherently wrong with any of this of course - I don't think an image substantially altered in Luminar Neo is 'worse' than a more traditionally processed photograph - but they do become separate entities in my eyes. Thanks for the video Philip - always a pleasure to watch your work. :)
Separate entities for the creator, but no one else knows..
@@johnny_123b unless you reveal your process of work as a trademark of yourself.
Happy Bday Sev Sev!
She’s says thank you!
great thoughts my friend. I have it, havent used it much as i mainly stick with LRC but i have been impressed with the times i've played around in it
You used storytelling in a photo editing tool explainer video 🙌🏾 You’re a master!
Excellent points. I, like you, am old. I recently took a whole season to shoot with just film, again. So refreshing and great for sharpening up old skills. The Luminar NEO is interesting. I purchased after your video as I am a photoshop user, but wanted to see what else can be done, faster. Good stuff... thanks as always for the videos you put out. By far, you're one of the best in this medium. Cheers from across the pond here in the States.
Wow, incredible results!
Great video and I certainly will give it a try, I am very much of the same mindset as you when taking photos having started with film many moons ago.
Mum and Dad sure look fancy!!
It’s an old photo, dad is a very frail shadow of his former self now. 😞
@@philipbloom I know the feeling. I look back at photos taken when I moved to Poland and see such younger versions of my parents and much like yourself, I have an instant sad face, I wish I could have them with me forever.
I enjoyed this very much. I'll take all the tools I can get. Years ago when Luminar 3 for Windows was incredibly buggy, nevertheless I had a photo of two people talking in a brick-floored courtyard with a lovely stucco wall draped with flowers behind. Problem: lighting was FLAT. Couldn't fix it in PS or LR but a preset in Luminar did it fantastically well. I shot a zillion pix at a dress rehearsal recently and I'll be trying to recreate the feeling of the play in Neo. Wish me luck - I hope Neo isn't only for the outdoors.
Just a note that Photoshop has also got a pretty decent automatic "one click" sky replacement tool. Haven't tested both, so can't say whether it is as good, but it does exist ;-)
Thanks Philip, touched on a very interesting topic - photography. Undoubtedly, post-processing tools are a creative process, but, apparently, a measure is needed here too.
Anyone can do what they want of course, this is after all just an easier photoshop. Using it very subtly it the way for me but I can’t lecture others of course. The main thing which i forgot to add to the video is if you take the challenge of getting it in camera away then the joy of photography will slowly bleed away…
@@philipbloom Right observation, Philip.
You always offer us a lot of good knowledge and reflections on our work of capturing images to tell good stories. Our director and founder has cultivated a habit for decades that when we are very involved with a new camera full of new features, we start a project where we use some of the oldest equipment. This contrast invariably spurs us on to improve ourselves by doing more with less. And it's very pleasurable.
A big and fraternal hug from your friends in Brazil!
Televisual Team
@@philipbloom Agree. The joy of photos, even for some at once in JPEG ... - but this is like a tool of discipline, or something ...
love the bg music
By reading others comments, I'm not really sure, we watched the same video 😅
Yes, I think it's cheating, I'm a hobby photographer and don't need to sell my work.
So I'f a photo turns out "bad" I don't make it good, or better with any alterations, a boring view, maybe.
But for me the creation part is in the camera, and not by the computer screen.
Sidenote, there were a AI generated photo in a Sony competition that got headlines in general media, a couple of months ago.
Never saw much attention of it here on youtube though, thought It would be the other way around.
I don’t think you are reading the same comments as me!
You know I was thinking and it may be something you’ve already referenced in a video, film or article etc. but photographs and in a different way videos are the only way we can currently experience the world through a different persons eyes. It’s currently really the only way we can see how the same thing, place, person can look different to different people. As if you can five people to take a photo of the same place, item, thing, person the five photos will all be different. Focusing on different things that that person relates to or find more interesting or noticeable!. The same with video but it’s moving obviously. You can literally use the camera as if it’s your own eyes giving the viewer the opportunity to experience that place as close to as you did as is currently I believe possible!.
I feel photography/videography is that fundamentally important as it really can tell a story of how someone sees the world. Take someone living in poverty, if they visited say monoco with camera. I’d bet their photographs and videos would be widely widely different compared to a millionaire who visits wealthy places every week and lives in luxury!.
Interesting dilemma. I fully agree that you should always do your very best to get it in camera, but as they say, sometimes life gets in the way. (Should that sun be on the left or right) you demonstrate some powerful tools, and that raises some interesting questions.
Thank you for this video. It’s thought provoking, and I guess that’s the point, huh.
Whenever I take a photo, I always see something different in my mind's eye. To me, the edited photo is always represents what I had originally seen in my head. Whether it's landscape or a composited fictional image I made of a person levitating, it's always a representation of my mind's eye. I believe that applies to A.I. too. In Midjourney for example, I see something in my mind and type out prompts to create an image. I edit my prompts until I see the image that closely resembles what I saw in my mind's eye.
Great vid
Thanks it was helpful
Thank you! I am impressed at how quickly you watched it! You must tell me your secret! 🙃
Oi !!! Just jumped when saw an old picture of Frankurtam Main 🤩🥰,,, why did you visit Frankurt of all places?
I was doing private training there.
I’ve been using luminar neo for my portrait and headshot work importing Fuji raws and man it’s slow. I use a Mac mini m1 with 16gb ram. For batch processing work I still use capture one and only bring in max 10 photos at a time to process in luminar.
I'm a purist.
If you couldn't do it in camera... it is cheating.
did you watch the video?
reminds me of when "TRON" (the first one) was denied entry into the special effects oscars because they used computers and were called "cheaters". im sure if you went back to the 70's and told people "in the future youll be able to adjust your ISO afterwards on a computer, as well as sharpen your image and push the colors, shadows and highlights" they'd call you a cheater
to anyone in the Philip Bloom community that really know cameras well, can you please suggest me what camera I should look into based on my ideas.
I looked into camcorders like the Panasonic HC-X2 as well as Cinema cameras like the Sigma FP or Black Magic's upcoming pocket L format camera for 2023 or their Pocket 6 K camera... But I know too little of all the modern day tech to tell what camera is best on doing what I want, so here I am asking around in hope of hearing what people that worked with cameras a lot more than me think might be the right choice,
this is what I aim to do:
I see that many cameras no matter they are camcorders or cinema cameras today cost about the same on this level we are talking now...
but what I want to do is poetic documentary work ..
I am very fascinated by Alexey Titarenko, though he was a photographer not a videographer and lived in a past time... I also like the documentary,
"the Fog of War"
I like to make documenters based on the Poetic Mood,
So, I like to use graphics, animations, maps, charts, or diagrams to explain complex or abstract concepts, show data or statistics but in a symbolic style and not a to me cold and borring news piece way...
I want to create transitions mixed with slowmotion of people in protests, arguments or neglect of each other's point of view, showing empathy vs non-empathy in people's actions towards each other. I like to show not tell.
When I have the details of people's facial emotions as well as slow motions and long exposure on video just like Alexey Titarenko but now on video and not in still photo, I like to then use music, sound effects, or ambient noise to create atmosphere, emotion, and contrast.
I am a trained actor and started a master in documentary film production that I never finished, so I got some knowledge of those things from an academic standpoint and so like to also use voice-over narration, text, or subtitles to provide additional information, context, or commentary to what happens between people, show mass hysteria or mass control. I want people, the audience to see how people are being used and ask themselves what they want, ask them if they believe they can live without polarisation and politics.
I understand is an ambitious goal, so I want to just start small catching a minute here and there when out and about in town to train my own tech ability to catch it on camera...
but what camera can do long exposure , making my work so close to that Russian photographer that I can find the perfect shutter speed on video to mimic the style of Alexey Titarenko?
ruclips.net/video/ALwahKTuJfY/видео.html
as well as doing normal poetic mood video / film work?
thanks for getting back, I know too little of all the tech in cameras today. I had my university training in journalism, documentary work and acting in early 2000 and since then I have not touched cameras.
I see a lot has happened since we had tape cassettes in our broadcast camcorders when I did my internships in the Washington Bureau and other places working in Capital Hill and similar areas catching news and reportage...
so now I wanna start again, but with more in depth documentary work in a more cinema like , poetic style...
So I am asking around on RUclips now to those that work with the latest cameras to understand better what might be the right camera for my ideas.
thanks for hearing me out!
Kind regards, Christopher / Sweden
Thanks for sharing... what is cheating in an age where reality is malleable. But then again, mythology has bent the reality of entire civilisations to its will.
Is that what you said to the wife? 😆😆
@@philipbloom indeed, you draw the line of AI and cheating at WIFE... 😂
If you are a travel photographer and tell the world how you would wait weeks to capture an image, that is great. Elia Locardi has stated many times how he would wait days to get the perfect picture. But now he has gone over to the dark side and replaces the sky in many of his photos. His images are no longer photographs but composites when he does that. He is no longer the great photographer that everyone believed he was because we all know how difficult it is to capture the right photo. There are no shortcuts in becoming a great photographer.
I don't necessarily think AI has changed much other than it muddies how people perceive the value of the works. One of the important aspects that has always been applicable is "transparency", news related works that have been doctored can create dangerous narratives of course, but that's always been a danger. Where I feel more uneasy about AI assistance is that it makes creating altered works so incredibly easy, and that means it's in the hands of more people that would deliberately look to gain from it unethically.
Way back in the Day, I ran a Linotype-Hell Cromocom (over a million dollar digital imaging system) that was used before Photoshop...
surely you can't be older than me?! I would love to see something like that in operation.
@@philipbloom We're about the same age I would guess (I'm about to turn 64) If you do a search for "Linotype Hell Pagination System" you can see a few photos and a few articles on them. There were massive machines that required raised computer floors. These huge disk packs (only 500MB) but they were amazing.
Is there a slider to add UFOs? I like space aliens and feel like their space ships can enhance any shot.
...sorry couldn't help myself. Thanks for another great review!!
Great Video, I first shot a Pentax K1000 in highschool in the 80's, the switch to digital for me was a new discovery, but I have thought a lot about returning for some work to film, namely 6x9 on 120 film. I've been watching out for a Fuji GX680 III that has popped up on the used market locally a couple times now.
It's a handy tool. Sometimes we just don't have the opportunity (especially on trips) to wait on one spot for the perfect sky, though everything else is great. Sometimes, especially in touristy spots, the other tourists/photographers get in the way or crowd the photo. And this tool can help bring your original vision to life. Should photo manipulation ever be allowed in journalism? Certainly not. But if you want to make a pretty image, then use whatever tools you have available. If you want to be a purist and get it all 'in-camera', then by all means, that is completely valid. But if you need to tweak an image to take it to another level (either because of the random weather conditions, etc), I also think it's just fine. Photo manipulation has been around for ages. And every new generation of editing tools and camera tools will always feel like 'cheating' to the old schoolers. That's how it's always been. :)
Did you write this before watching the video? 🙃
@@philipbloom Yes. Not sure why my comment seems to have been interpreted as contrary to the points made in your video. My response was more in general for other viewers. Cheers :)
Erasing Bill Weir at 3:28 feels like a very inside joke.
AI tools terrify me, because they achieve perfection with ease. Knowing that no matter how hard I try I can never stand out among these fake images, is quite discouraging.
I just can’t get behind Skylum’s sales practices. I’ve bought many of their products over the years, but found that they have never addressed software issues. Instead, they update the UI and roll out another paid version about every year.
I’m really curious how long Neo will last before it’s replaced.
But how is that different to how Adobe used to do things before moving to a subscription system?
@@philipbloom Didn't Adobe do bug fixes though?
Hi there! We are now focused on developing Luminar Neo and making it the best software it can possibly be instead of creating a new software. Therefore, we constantly release new updates to help with bugs and performance improvement :)
@@skymakai Adobe did updates pre creative cloud but the big new features were released annually.
It sounds like Skylum are going to stick with Neo now anyway and keep developing that, which is the right way to do things!
@@philipbloom Agreed!
Does it stitch panorama shots?
Hi Richard, not at the moment, but we surely have plans. Maybe you'll see it very soon ;)
Everyone should do what they want, and what feels right to them. It's only cheating if you enter a sky replacement photo into a natural landscape competition or something.
What if I entered a non manipulated photo into an AI competition?! 😆
@@philipbloom lol but that would be wrong too. It's really becoming an art to manipulate with AI
They are both forms of cheating because they don’t honor the intentions of the competition. It is about intention and integrity. Personally, I don’t know how people enjoy landscape photography if they just show up at a place and snap a photo and then replace the sky and add a tree. It is about the hunt, the effort put into a photo, the dance with weather conditions, and luck.
What is the name of the software for adding sun
Not quite sure how to answer this, it's the title of the video!
No. Even Ansel Adams manipulated his photographs through post processing.
I think people aren’t getting that the question is actually the title of the video!
Yes 100% its digital designe not photography these are 2 diffrent catefories
I wish I hadn’t made the title a question. Makes me feel most people post their opinion without watching the video as it’s not black and white like your state.
There is a product for every customer how about food photography thats perfect example how they fake the product does it mean the are chefs? No photographes? Maybe designers? For sure is that cheating?? Photography is the entire proces from start to finish imagine artistic painter using printer 🤣🤣🤣
Enhance ai and sky Enhance are my number 1 and 2 got too tools. Borderline make editing cheating.
Fuck the sky... The photo is of the bird, not the sky
i think there should be at least some transparency about art made with the use of AI, quite so with photography and video, i fear this tools making it soooo easy to completely manipulate images will make geniune images (ones with a bit of color and thats it) nigh nonexistent, i fear we will loose quite a bit of nuance.
Define the AI use in this video though…is it AI? It’s not like the AI art I talked about eat the beginning.
@@philipbloom im talking more broad terms and about photography in general, but i guess what i say applies to any kind of deep photographic manipulation, by its just that AI tools make these techniques ubiquitous and that poses a bunch of potential "issues", though im really interested in your take on pure AI generated images, thats a completely different sort of scary.
Were it not for a long-term involvement and reliance on Lightroom/Photoshop, I would jump a the chance to support Skylum, simply for their continued defiance in the face of an existential threat from the insanity of Putin's offensive invasion of Ukraine, where Luminar was developed.
All very clever tech but very sad that this is where art is heading. You have the talent to never need any of this AI nonsense. I understand it may be fun but it is leading us to a place where originality and skill will be redundant.
I have to ask, did you watch the video before commenting, it doesn’t feel like you have. 😊
You do you. Cameras are so limited by their physics. Quicker and easier is better for me.
Why are you telling me to masturbate?
Jokes aside your comment makes no sense. What are you talking about??
How is this video sponsored by Skylum?
What do you mean?
@@philipbloom in the description it says sponsored by Skylum
@@DigitalPhotoMentor I know, I am asking what do you mean by your question? Perhaps you could rephrase it?
Hello?