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6:30 the black dragon is not the pyro sovereign, that is nibelung. right after you see that mural in the quest the following quotes appear in the scene: "You witness with your own eyes the gargantuan wings from beyond the world, the once glorious and grand figure now pitiable, having completely sunk into the terrifying shadow.The pitch-black flames scorch the land, and even the white tree nearly withered, and the final envoy's glow shattered and smashed, only able to subsist on the last leaves of the severed roots."
I'm honestly a fan of the fact that Mavuika was so open and honest when she met traveler to explain the situation. I feel like in all the other regions (save for maybe Mondstadt) we were kept in the dark and the archon only speaks to us properly after the subsequent archon quests.
I admit that so far they kept a pretty good balance between humanity and divinity. Mavuika is technically a goddess because of her Archon authority, but you can still notice that she consideres herself equal to the other humans. Even with Nahida and Furina you could see the “veil of being a god”. Mavuika tho gives vibes of a perfect god-human hybrid.
@@Laef_dream actually she isn't a god at all She's the Archon but she's still Human and hasn't been granted Divinity like Focalors was when she ascended This is cuz of the first Pyro Archon Xbalanque, he made it so the Pyro Archon would remain Human
@@dylanmcgoey2238 Yes I know she still follows the rules of being human like aging and whatnot. Being an Archon is what I meant for being a god, and that’s what I like about this duality. She has the characteristics of a goddess and the traits of a human at the same time
Alsdnladasd was one of the Pyro Archons!!! J/k … it’s just keyboard angries… I have them too! See?: RSTHFSHHCGRRRRasdfdsfjdf… …. Ok I’m done now. …Time to go watch more Minslief and/or play Genshin Impact.
Build different and almost got beat by base Capitano who didn't even use his transformation and he's human while Midvuika used all her power confirmed in game btw just to barely injured Capitano 🤣
Also fun detail, when Mavuika sacrifices her power she says she wishes she got a picture of her flaming hair but when she talks about the picture with her family she says she got it painted in their likeness. It’s a very subtle hint that I haven’t seen anyone talk about!
Xbalanque is just HIM.. The mural literally showed him t posing over Xiuhcoatl's dead body, asserting his dominance...Like how can someone surpass that... Even Capitano fails in comparison.. Probably the best archon out of the original seven (sorry Zhongli)
@@AmbroseVermillionwasnt talking to you and killing a godlike being isnt new to this game. Why are u even talking about Ei or Orobashi makes no sense. Irrelevant to tue conversation
I love how chill Mavuika is. Zhongli and Venti's introduction were kinda okay. Raiden's was really crazy. The first time we met Nahida it was kinda in a predicament so the atmosphere is somewhat heavy and instant. But Mavuika? She is literally 'lit'. Her introduction to the Archon quest is flashy, same as Furina welcoming us in an unexpected way. Mavuika feels like the reliable older and chill sister, I love it so much.
Venti sort of treated us like visitors at first glance, he knew we weren't from Teyvat.. He was more curious as to who we were and figured our ability to purify abyssal corruption can be used on Dvalin. Zhongli treated us like guests, but wasn't too sure of our motives, and tested us, he also knew we weren't from Teyvat. However he used the traveler to help guide Liyue into taking on Osial. Ei's puppet saw us as intruders, and a threat to her doctrines and rules, and attempted to destroy us, but the real Ei stepped in and wanted to personally evaluate what was causing such a ruckus outside her plane of euthymia. Nahida was a prisoner, and we were enemies to the sages when we threatened their stranglehold on power. She guided us in our thoughts as we navigated their attacks. Furina was a puppet for Focalors herself, and was only doing when duty on upholding law and order for Fontaine.. she made herself look like a fool going after Lyney and Lynette however, but that was out of duty. Focalors was just using these phony trials to gather energy for the Oratrice to destroy the hydro archon seat in an act of defiance against celestia.
@@Lightningstrike1220 yes i think all archons were cool and ok except ei ( girl...please not every traveller is a goddamn intruder) all knew something except furina venti knew a heck lot of things told us through songs and poets...maybe he is cursed? if ma boy say smthin he might get slapped by nail zhongli had a contract ei didnt knew lot of think but makoto did a LOT nahida told us what she can tells us furina...we have to help her and neuv. didnt told us tons of info although we did go info from other beings
@@Lightningstrike1220Furina wasn’t a puppet. She was Focalors technically, bc she had to fool herself for her plan to work. Furina retained the divine constallation, Focalors’s body and spirit. A lot of ppl confuse Focalors and the Hydro Archon Divinity Focalors, who has memories and the divinity
@@Lightningstrike1220 lore skipper? she was not a puppet. Focalors literally SPLIT herself in half, she said it herself. Go rewatch the AQ. Focalors didn’t create Furina out of nowhere. and then they ask for a skip button..💀💀💀
After Mavuika said that she was also the archon 500 years ago, during the cataclism, I am now pretty sure that the statues of the seven were built AFTER the cataclism by Celestia, before they became dormant. A lot of people didn't know why the statues looked like the current archons and not the original ones if they are so old - turns out the statues are not so old after all. Thats why we got Nahida, Focalors and Mavuika represented in the statue. Kachina says that the statue looking like Mavuika is "a coincidence because there were a lot of pyro archons", but what Kachina does not know was that Mavuika was also the archon 500 years ago, so the statue was built on her image. That also explains a little bit of why the heck the abyss tried to steal one of the statues way back in 1.4, it's new technology for them and something they don't know how it works. I am hoping they will clarify what the statues are during Natlan's AQ, and how they work, since we traveler couldn't ressonate with them this time.
Um, I don't think I agree, I believe that the statues of seven were build after the archon war ended, which was thousands years ago rather than just five hundred years ago, and it is coincidence since every archon looks exactly like their reincarnation
To reiterate my comment from a previous video (sorry for being slightly annoying), in 6:36, people are not really sure if the dragon in 6:36 is the pyro dragon or not. There's actually more consensus that the dragon there is not the pyro dragon (since it looks quite different than the dragon Xabalanque killed in the other mural), and a theory floating around is that the dragon who burned the tree in that mural is Nibelung. People are also not fully sure that the tree is irminsul or the shining thing is the shining shade, but there's a bit more consensus there.
right, it's like the third time she mentioned it as if it was 100% confirmed when in reality it looks nothing like the actual pyro dragon from other murals
The Story implied that the Pyro Dragon, and from Apep we know that the corruption can affect them a lot. Ofc, we need official confirmation from the game, but there are way too many hints and focus on him to end as a random pyro dragon and not the Pyro Sovereign, also the tree ofc is not The Irminsul main tree, but one of his "Branches" that are also called Irminsul trees, like the white one that is on Dragonspine. For the rest... I completely agree with you, we don't know if those envoys were the shining shades, they could be seelies, they look pretty similar to the ones in Dragonspine murals.
Some people have been saying that the dragon in the mural burning Irminsul is different than the other murals, and in that particular mural the depicted dragon is more likely to be Nibelung (based on his imagery and description)
Because it looks different from the mural of xbalanque defeating the pyro dragon. It is even described as a black dragon like durin and that it came from outside teyvat. So most likely an abyssal dragon. And since nibelung returned to teyvat with the power of abyss, it is likely that the dragon is him
Wait so the archons are stronger than gods and the four shining shades are stronger than the archons and the shining shades are weaker than the primordial one (aka the heavenly principles ) yeah we ain’t finding the sibling with this one
Even the lore in this game is enough to please my appetite. Glad I picked it up again, never realized it was going to expand into the most exciting free game ever!
If mauvika was alive 500 years ago ... This means she was there when the other twin was on their adventure of teyvat... They must've met ... I hope mauvika tells something about our twin... This could also be a topic for a new video ig...
Being sponsored by Genshin on a Genshin lore video is such a power move but I also kind of wonder why they would do it? Like aren't we a captive audience haha
From the Ars Goetia: Aim (also Aym or Haborym) is a Great Duke of Hell, very strong, and rules over twenty-six legions of demons. *He sets cities, castles and great places on fire, makes men witty in all ways, and gives true answers concerning private matters.* He is depicted as a man (handsome to some sources), but with three heads, one of a serpent, the second of a man, and the third of a cat to most authors, although some say of a calf, riding a viper, and *carrying in his hand a lit firebrand with which he sets the requested things on fire.*
To add to the Murata part of the video, there's already an NPC who appeared with the name Murata in the 2.6 event Hues of the Violet Garden, unless they retcon her name for the Pyro Archon's sake, i don't believe they will have 2 characters with the same name in history unless I'm forgetting someone
I am very sure that Murata does not exist and is just a form of mistranslation from CN to EN, in the Facebook community there are people who discuss this mistranslation and find the fact that in the CN to EN translation It should be written MUNATA, MU is people and NATA is Natlan in Chinese pronunciation, so MUNATA means People of Natlan. Besides, isn't it unreasonable that there is the name Murata, which is a Japanese name in Natlan, whose reference is to ancient American and African civilizations?
1:48 personaly this was a terrible descition from mihoyo. This game NEEDS its story to be enjoyed. Skipping past 3 of the most important parts lore wise missing out on, enkonomya, caliberte, we will reiunite, narwhal, skirk, Scaramouche, dottore and arlecchino is a guaranteed loss. Not to mention that the pacing for natlan this far has been very sappy and “OH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP WE WILL CONCURE THE ABYSS!” will likely throw some people off that haven’t experienced the game so far
I'm pretty sure people who want to enjoy the story will play the rest chronologically, and the others who value gameplay/current characters much more, people who want to catch up, and who don't mind just watching the summary of the story has been given an option to skip a total of ~3 years of story. I think it's a win-win situation.
I've been looking forward to Natlan since the beginning of Genshin. I have not been disappointed Mavuika is definitely my favorite Archon so far. From how she first interacted with Traveler. I'm looking forward to getting to know her even more.
I think the fact that the first pyro archon got his power not from fighting in a war, but killing the pyro dragon is honestly cool and insane. Like we only know so much about these beings (the elemental dragons) and know that Neuvillette is one, so imagine that sort of power for a mortal to be able to beat a dragon, especially one with the power that rivals archons.
Well I do think the speculation of that Murata is a mistranslation is 100% correct since it would be weird if one of the Archons of a South America/Pasific islands/Africa inspired nation to have a Japanese named archon. Although I do thinking Venting was describing an archon in the manga, but mostly likely her name would be different.
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I dont think that mural of the dragon killing the envoy is the pyro dragon, i think its the dragon king Nibelung cuz the dragon killing the envoy is different than the mural with the pyro dragon killed by Xbalanque.
Xbalanque’s feats are insane, battling and beating the likes of the Pyro Dragon and the Flamelord while creating the rules of Natlan, while mentoring Mavuika? That’s just legendary
@@AmbroseVermillion Nope it was a sovereign at full power because after Xbalanque defeated it he was resurrected and gained the authority over pyro. I mean it does make sense that the Pyro Dragon sovereign didn't get their power taken by the Primordial one because if the sovereign had no authority he wouldn't be able to start a dragon civilization. So when Xbalanque defeated the sovereign he gave the pyro authority to celestia.
Actually if you're going to look at murals closely, the dragons depicted look different. One is somewhere near red and the other, nester to black. The red one possibly is yhe Pyro Sovereign while the black some, in another theory video i saw, could be the dragon king Nibelung. I also feel that, after that world quest, Xbalanque and the Pyro Sovereign seem to be in good terms. Murata from the web novel is indeed said to be a mistranslation. It was supposedly "Children of Mur-Natlan" which an older speculated name for Natlan. Couldn't find the post though but it was on Reddit.
That is what happens when you let massive Honkai fanboys translate the Manga, the moment they see the word "Mu Nata" they instinctively think of Murata.
@@MiyuKawasaki collect night jade and go to a certain location near the stadium and interact with it, then you will undergo a challenge to collect 5 or 6 chests there
Maybe this is me, but the amount I’ve seen the pyro archons get hate is just… a bit mind blowing to me. Just because they are humans doesn’t make them any less cool, or suddenly lesser than the archons that are elemental beings. It honestly ends up making their achievements cooler when you see that they contend with elemental beings. And while we don’t know really much at all about the Cyro archon, it makes me wonder if the cyro archon has a particular ascension system, and if the cyro archon is like venti and zhongli in how she’s the first archon of her element. (I think it’s mentioned as early as the end of the Mondstat AQ that venti saw the Cyro archon 500 years ago but hasn’t seen her since, so I’m kinda hyped to know about her when she’s added in Snezhnaya next year.
What if Mavuika has to sacrifice herself to keep the Flame goin’? Then by the end of the Archon quest, the traveler inherits the throne just like any other who claimed the title before Mavuika’s resurrection.
Traveller cant get the throne , the archon has to be from natlan + should have ability to produce contending flames which traveller can never produce (only natlan people can do this)
The Eyes of Mavuika look a bit similiar to Surya Majapahit, which is the Emblem of Majapahit Empire. This empire have two design of it's Surya Majapahit
small question for everyone: since Mavuika was the pyro archon 500 years ago does that mean she’s the one on the statue of the seven? If so then that mean the statues were only made at that specific time in her image right?
@@MiyuKawasaki I don’t really think so. For one, Focalors and furina looked very similar to each other so they probably just assumed the statue was of furina or Egeria. And also Kachina mentioned that the statue looking like her was a coincidence. I have 2 theories rn: that either the heavenly principles change the statues and since they’ve been “asleep” for 500 years, it stayed as Mavuika since she was the archon at that time. 2: since Mavuika placed herself in the sacred flame, the statue still looks like her as she never truly died..? I’m definitely leaning more towards my former theory though.❤️
7:48 Ok, this is a reach but could the sage be our boy Ajaw? The colors do line up, question is why his personality changed from helping humans to wanting Kinich dead ☠️
This is my theory So, here is my Theory Any unstable 3-dimensional space that it's not connected to the Imaginary Tree is a Buuble Universe. - Honkai Impact 3rd lore We also know form in game (H13) So, according to a combination of what Dr. MEI, Einstein, and Tesla (Hi3 Characters) say one the subject, all major universes radiate their “existence” to some degree, and then in the gap between universes, that existential radiation mingles and mixes and forms strange pocket dimensions that have some sort of resemblance that their origin universes, but are unstable and usually with some broken or incompatible physics. The more stable bubbles seem to operate on a smaller scale of big universe laws, but are still unstable on account of their limited size, as universes need to be a certain size to maintain themselves on the tree or they get “pruned” This may be weird to say but the world of Teyvat is not large when we compare it to H13 which for all cases is the earth itself. The way we saw the sky in 5.1 quest also points out to this. Also the Abssys for some reason makes and reads like 'The Honkai' Honkai / 崩壊Houkai / 崩坏Bēnghuài, is a cyclical natural disaster phenomenon which periodically adjusts the universe. Every once in a while, the Houkai will break out. The outbreak of the Houkai is irregular and unpredictable, making it highly dangerous. It has manifested in the past as a plague, meteors, volcanic activity and currently as a horde of beasts. The Houkai has also been hinted to have their gender as female because most Herrschers are referred to with she/her pronouns. The Houkai also favours females as a vessel and females in general have higher houkai adaptability. -Source H13 lore wiki The Abssys may as well be the Honkai and for some reason I think so Lumine may the Abssys Princess may be a Herrscher(Just saying) I may not be able to be able to put in words but this is what I think myself. I just came up to this on a wimp, when I HomoLabs video on HI3 part 2; and started comparing it to Genshin Impact. Also you may have noticed that Star rail has started to drift towards the lore of HI3. Which actually sounds cool and there it looks as if that is the end goal of Mihoyo. So, what makes Genshin so different. In GGZ Sirin caused the world reset to cause and overlap and reset of the world, just to point out.
My theory Mavuika also had a ancient name 500 years ago, right and her ancient name was Murata(old archon) That would be insane connection in 6 choosen one mural there is also fire in center and that is Mavuika. She also have to awaken(aknowledged) by Murata and get her memory😂😂😂
If a vision holder wins the archonhood succession run of the pilgrimage do they lose their vision? do they double wield? does their fate change so much that the previous vision goes dormant? here's how kachina can still become the pyro archon
Didn't previous Genshin medias mention that when an Archon's position is absent, someone with a vision can take their place? We know that the war for the archon thrones pretty much killed everyone eligible otherwise. Unless I hallucinated allat. The only regions with their original archons r mondstadt and liyue innit
The way it's being presented in the story, kinda implies there hasn't been any. The plan was to sacrifice her life, meanwhile, the tribes should rebuild from the cataclysm, and then she comes back one day
@@MiyuKawasaki doesn't sound much right cause they all know about the how they choosing the archon and after she reincarnated she didn't just become the archon but she take part in the competition and win then become the archon. Also not many know she is the archon from 500 yrs ago. That means there were others who also took the place as archons before she took the title
Idk how no one noticed but in travail trailer they refer to her as the god of war, but after we know that all pyro archons are humans they never mention her or any pyro archon as a god of war, because if you think about it in previous nations they will always once call their archon a god that they associated with but not in natlan, so is there a deeper meaning to it??? I honestly dont know😅
I would assume that Archons have an innate ability to age slowly or be immortal. Weird that out of all the creatures/races that ascended to godhood, Humans retain their regular aging
He actually didn't I don't know if minslief read the record of hannan puccha or not but they say and also in one of the world quest that the wise sage waxaklam and the fool chaac defeated the original dragon sovereign xiuhcoatl and the great sage gave the power of pyrophosporite to the world
hundred or archon? i doubt it. if true then statue of seven would change shape hundred of times. i bet majority of them are archon in name only. Mavuika is true archon recognize by the throne for past 500 years judging from statue, everyone else probably borrow fraction of power from gnosis or rono a
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She is my fav Archon coz she is the only one who said 'Let our Blades do the talking'. She is so hot (a burning-hair hot)
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6:30 the black dragon is not the pyro sovereign, that is nibelung. right after you see that mural in the quest the following quotes appear in the scene:
"You witness with your own eyes the gargantuan wings from beyond the world, the once glorious and grand figure now pitiable, having completely sunk into the terrifying shadow.The pitch-black flames scorch the land, and even the white tree nearly withered, and the final envoy's glow shattered and smashed, only able to subsist on the last leaves of the severed roots."
I'm honestly a fan of the fact that Mavuika was so open and honest when she met traveler to explain the situation. I feel like in all the other regions (save for maybe Mondstadt) we were kept in the dark and the archon only speaks to us properly after the subsequent archon quests.
Unlike the other Archons she isn't Divine, she's just a human too
Which is why she acts like that
I admit that so far they kept a pretty good balance between humanity and divinity. Mavuika is technically a goddess because of her Archon authority, but you can still notice that she consideres herself equal to the other humans. Even with Nahida and Furina you could see the “veil of being a god”. Mavuika tho gives vibes of a perfect god-human hybrid.
@@Laef_dream actually she isn't a god at all
She's the Archon but she's still Human and hasn't been granted Divinity like Focalors was when she ascended
This is cuz of the first Pyro Archon Xbalanque, he made it so the Pyro Archon would remain Human
@@dylanmcgoey2238 Yes I know she still follows the rules of being human like aging and whatnot. Being an Archon is what I meant for being a god, and that’s what I like about this duality. She has the characteristics of a goddess and the traits of a human at the same time
Agreed, I love how down to earth she is so far
‘Pyro Archons are built different’
I didn’t even have the watch the whole video to know that Minsleif is speaking FAX
i'm still gagged from the information we got about the pyro archons too alsdnladasd
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Alsdnladasd was one of the Pyro Archons!!!
J/k … it’s just keyboard angries…
I have them too! See?:
RSTHFSHHCGRRRRasdfdsfjdf…
…. Ok I’m done now. …Time to go watch more Minslief and/or play Genshin Impact.
@@Minsleifthere is a theory that traveler might become the real pyro archon
Build different and almost got beat by base Capitano who didn't even use his transformation and he's human while Midvuika used all her power confirmed in game btw just to barely injured Capitano 🤣
Also fun detail, when Mavuika sacrifices her power she says she wishes she got a picture of her flaming hair but when she talks about the picture with her family she says she got it painted in their likeness. It’s a very subtle hint that I haven’t seen anyone talk about!
I think it’s interesting but also more sad when you finish the current aq
Xbalanque is just HIM.. The mural literally showed him t posing over Xiuhcoatl's dead body, asserting his dominance...Like how can someone surpass that... Even Capitano fails in comparison..
Probably the best archon out of the original seven (sorry Zhongli)
U litteraly know nothing about him and how he was yet hes the best ? 😂
HAJASHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
@@Sacration uh huh, hes already the IT boy of the archons 🎀💖🔥
@@SacrationOnly Archon to have slain a Dragon Sovereign. And before you say it, no Orobashi wasn’t a Sovereign so Ei didn’t beat one
@@AmbroseVermillionwasnt talking to you and killing a godlike being isnt new to this game.
Why are u even talking about Ei or Orobashi makes no sense. Irrelevant to tue conversation
I love how chill Mavuika is.
Zhongli and Venti's introduction were kinda okay.
Raiden's was really crazy.
The first time we met Nahida it was kinda in a predicament so the atmosphere is somewhat heavy and instant.
But Mavuika? She is literally 'lit'. Her introduction to the Archon quest is flashy, same as Furina welcoming us in an unexpected way. Mavuika feels like the reliable older and chill sister, I love it so much.
Venti sort of treated us like visitors at first glance, he knew we weren't from Teyvat.. He was more curious as to who we were and figured our ability to purify abyssal corruption can be used on Dvalin.
Zhongli treated us like guests, but wasn't too sure of our motives, and tested us, he also knew we weren't from Teyvat. However he used the traveler to help guide Liyue into taking on Osial.
Ei's puppet saw us as intruders, and a threat to her doctrines and rules, and attempted to destroy us, but the real Ei stepped in and wanted to personally evaluate what was causing such a ruckus outside her plane of euthymia.
Nahida was a prisoner, and we were enemies to the sages when we threatened their stranglehold on power. She guided us in our thoughts as we navigated their attacks.
Furina was a puppet for Focalors herself, and was only doing when duty on upholding law and order for Fontaine.. she made herself look like a fool going after Lyney and Lynette however, but that was out of duty. Focalors was just using these phony trials to gather energy for the Oratrice to destroy the hydro archon seat in an act of defiance against celestia.
@@Lightningstrike1220 yes i think all archons were cool and ok except ei ( girl...please not every traveller is a goddamn intruder) all knew something except furina
venti knew a heck lot of things told us through songs and poets...maybe he is cursed? if ma boy say smthin he might get slapped by nail
zhongli had a contract
ei didnt knew lot of think but makoto did a LOT
nahida told us what she can tells us
furina...we have to help her and neuv. didnt told us tons of info although we did go info from other beings
@@Lightningstrike1220Furina wasn’t a puppet. She was Focalors technically, bc she had to fool herself for her plan to work. Furina retained the divine constallation, Focalors’s body and spirit. A lot of ppl confuse Focalors and the Hydro Archon Divinity Focalors, who has memories and the divinity
@@user-ej8rp1hj9n Furina 👏 was 👏 a 👏 puppet.
@@Lightningstrike1220 lore skipper? she was not a puppet. Focalors literally SPLIT herself in half, she said it herself. Go rewatch the AQ. Focalors didn’t create Furina out of nowhere.
and then they ask for a skip button..💀💀💀
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After Mavuika said that she was also the archon 500 years ago, during the cataclism, I am now pretty sure that the statues of the seven were built AFTER the cataclism by Celestia, before they became dormant.
A lot of people didn't know why the statues looked like the current archons and not the original ones if they are so old - turns out the statues are not so old after all. Thats why we got Nahida, Focalors and Mavuika represented in the statue. Kachina says that the statue looking like Mavuika is "a coincidence because there were a lot of pyro archons", but what Kachina does not know was that Mavuika was also the archon 500 years ago, so the statue was built on her image.
That also explains a little bit of why the heck the abyss tried to steal one of the statues way back in 1.4, it's new technology for them and something they don't know how it works. I am hoping they will clarify what the statues are during Natlan's AQ, and how they work, since we traveler couldn't ressonate with them this time.
To me they look like mini Divine Nails, but that may not make sense lore wise
Um, I don't think I agree, I believe that the statues of seven were build after the archon war ended, which was thousands years ago rather than just five hundred years ago, and it is coincidence since every archon looks exactly like their reincarnation
@ Impossible. Rukkadevatha was not kid shaped
You know its a good start to the day when minslief drops a lore analysis
The joke you made in doros short about your fav genshin character was insane. I bursted with him💀💀💀
Xabalanque gives Natsu Dragneel low key
He's got a fire in his belly
To reiterate my comment from a previous video (sorry for being slightly annoying), in 6:36, people are not really sure if the dragon in 6:36 is the pyro dragon or not. There's actually more consensus that the dragon there is not the pyro dragon (since it looks quite different than the dragon Xabalanque killed in the other mural), and a theory floating around is that the dragon who burned the tree in that mural is Nibelung. People are also not fully sure that the tree is irminsul or the shining thing is the shining shade, but there's a bit more consensus there.
right, it's like the third time she mentioned it as if it was 100% confirmed when in reality it looks nothing like the actual pyro dragon from other murals
The Story implied that the Pyro Dragon, and from Apep we know that the corruption can affect them a lot. Ofc, we need official confirmation from the game, but there are way too many hints and focus on him to end as a random pyro dragon and not the Pyro Sovereign, also the tree ofc is not The Irminsul main tree, but one of his "Branches" that are also called Irminsul trees, like the white one that is on Dragonspine.
For the rest... I completely agree with you, we don't know if those envoys were the shining shades, they could be seelies, they look pretty similar to the ones in Dragonspine murals.
Some people have been saying that the dragon in the mural burning Irminsul is different than the other murals, and in that particular mural the depicted dragon is more likely to be Nibelung (based on his imagery and description)
Because it looks different from the mural of xbalanque defeating the pyro dragon. It is even described as a black dragon like durin and that it came from outside teyvat. So most likely an abyssal dragon. And since nibelung returned to teyvat with the power of abyss, it is likely that the dragon is him
I've been waiting for Min to upload with all the current new information.
THE LORE DROPED IN THE NEW ARCHON QUEST IS SO INSANE,CAPITANO IS A KENRIHIAN!?
U know it’s different when it’s “archonS”
Wait so the archons are stronger than gods and the four shining shades are stronger than the archons and the shining shades are weaker than the primordial one (aka the heavenly principles ) yeah we ain’t finding the sibling with this one
@@weirdo_called_F😂
@@weirdo_called_Fi dont think celestia is an entity/person. Celestia felt more like an "Organization" of gods/higher power being
@@AhmadSaifudin116 I meant the heavenly principles
Isn't the heavenly principles the primordial one and his four shining shades?? @@weirdo_called_F
Even the lore in this game is enough to please my appetite. Glad I picked it up again, never realized it was going to expand into the most exciting free game ever!
If mauvika was alive 500 years ago ... This means she was there when the other twin was on their adventure of teyvat... They must've met ... I hope mauvika tells something about our twin... This could also be a topic for a new video ig...
Honestly that’s true. I hadn’t really thought of that. But I hope that this gets mentioned in a Dainslief story quest. I’d love to see it.
Nah the twin traveled around 300 years ago when chlothar was already 100+ from cataclysm
Being sponsored by Genshin on a Genshin lore video is such a power move but I also kind of wonder why they would do it? Like aren't we a captive audience haha
non-genshin people who have never played or know about genshin probably wouldn’t even click on this video.
If we were to say that all the pyro archons became archon at around 20 and lived up to at least 80 years, there would've been around 35 pyro archons
From the Ars Goetia:
Aim (also Aym or Haborym) is a Great Duke of Hell, very strong, and rules over twenty-six legions of demons.
*He sets cities, castles and great places on fire, makes men witty in all ways, and gives true answers concerning private matters.*
He is depicted as a man (handsome to some sources), but with three heads, one of a serpent, the second of a man, and the third of a cat to most authors, although some say of a calf, riding a viper, and *carrying in his hand a lit firebrand with which he sets the requested things on fire.*
To add to the Murata part of the video, there's already an NPC who appeared with the name Murata in the 2.6 event Hues of the Violet Garden, unless they retcon her name for the Pyro Archon's sake, i don't believe they will have 2 characters with the same name in history unless I'm forgetting someone
There are 2 Marcel's as far as I know, one in Weinlesefest and the killer in Fontaine's quest
Sara from monstadt and Sara inazuma? 😭
oh nvm then forget about this comment LOL
It's confirmed now, Ronova is The Ruler of Death
the way you nailed so many theories in this video is insane
Wake up from your slumber oh almighty minsleif. We request upon thee to theorise with us once more
ahhh so they are paying you! thats good, more video content! much needed videos to help sum up things for players new and old alike
I am very sure that Murata does not exist and is just a form of mistranslation from CN to EN, in the Facebook community there are people who discuss this mistranslation and find the fact that in the CN to EN translation It should be written MUNATA, MU is people and NATA is Natlan in Chinese pronunciation, so MUNATA means People of Natlan.
Besides, isn't it unreasonable that there is the name Murata, which is a Japanese name in Natlan, whose reference is to ancient American and African civilizations?
xbalanque the goat of genshin
1:48 personaly this was a terrible descition from mihoyo. This game NEEDS its story to be enjoyed. Skipping past 3 of the most important parts lore wise missing out on, enkonomya, caliberte, we will reiunite, narwhal, skirk, Scaramouche, dottore and arlecchino is a guaranteed loss. Not to mention that the pacing for natlan this far has been very sappy and “OH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP WE WILL CONCURE THE ABYSS!” will likely throw some people off that haven’t experienced the game so far
I'm pretty sure people who want to enjoy the story will play the rest chronologically, and the others who value gameplay/current characters much more, people who want to catch up, and who don't mind just watching the summary of the story has been given an option to skip a total of ~3 years of story. I think it's a win-win situation.
@@Falindio hmmm, maybe.
I just love listening to her voice, man. She's definitely my go-to genshin story/lore explainer 😍🤩😁
I've been looking forward to Natlan since the beginning of Genshin. I have not been disappointed Mavuika is definitely my favorite Archon so far. From how she first interacted with Traveler. I'm looking forward to getting to know her even more.
I think the fact that the first pyro archon got his power not from fighting in a war, but killing the pyro dragon is honestly cool and insane. Like we only know so much about these beings (the elemental dragons) and know that Neuvillette is one, so imagine that sort of power for a mortal to be able to beat a dragon, especially one with the power that rivals archons.
minsleif, when 5.1 recap
this week
Awesome, thanks Minsleif ❤
@@Minsleif lets go
@@Minsleif it's Friday😭 I need videooo
1:38 kachina is a 5 star? 😅
Here after chapter 4 of natlan… yep… Ronova is Goddess of Death
6:10 Oh and traveller mentions kachina ancient name thing looks like feather too!!. if I'm not mistaken.
honestly minsleif BEST HOYO VERSE CONTENT CREATOR 😍🥰
Well I do think the speculation of that Murata is a mistranslation is 100% correct since it would be weird if one of the Archons of a South America/Pasific islands/Africa inspired nation to have a Japanese named archon. Although I do thinking Venting was describing an archon in the manga, but mostly likely her name would be different.
Genshin’s story is really ramping up and I love it, I really like lore in any game
Wowww genshib sponsored your video?? ❤❤❤that's a hugee honor and privilege, congratulations minsleif🎉🎉🎉looking forward for more knowledge of your theories as i keep watching your uploads always
im early! hope you all get the natan characters you wish for!
likewise!! ; - ; I'm so excited for Xilonen!
Why do i feel like this is a re upload??????
It’s is!!
i still cry each time i see the locked fontaine glider
I dont think that mural of the dragon killing the envoy is the pyro dragon, i think its the dragon king Nibelung cuz the dragon killing the envoy is different than the mural with the pyro dragon killed by Xbalanque.
Xbalanque’s feats are insane, battling and beating the likes of the Pyro Dragon and the Flamelord while creating the rules of Natlan, while mentoring Mavuika? That’s just legendary
Do you think it was a full powered dragon or a weaken one. I think a weakend one
@@Pre4xes_A weakened one, Xbalanque would have been cooked if it was the full powered Pyro Sovereign.
@@AmbroseVermillion
Nope it was a sovereign at full power because after Xbalanque defeated it he was resurrected and gained the authority over pyro.
I mean it does make sense that the Pyro Dragon sovereign didn't get their power taken by the Primordial one because if the sovereign had no authority he wouldn't be able to start a dragon civilization.
So when Xbalanque defeated the sovereign he gave the pyro authority to celestia.
@@AmbroseVermillion is it confirmed that Xiuhcoatl is the dragon sovereign ?
If a person has a hydro vision and won. Would they give up their hydro power for a pyro one?
They just borrow th sacred flame power and probably infuse that with their own ability so they’re much stronger
No way hydro archons are back
THATS WHAT JVE BEEN THINKING
Actually if you're going to look at murals closely, the dragons depicted look different. One is somewhere near red and the other, nester to black. The red one possibly is yhe Pyro Sovereign while the black some, in another theory video i saw, could be the dragon king Nibelung.
I also feel that, after that world quest, Xbalanque and the Pyro Sovereign seem to be in good terms.
Murata from the web novel is indeed said to be a mistranslation. It was supposedly "Children of Mur-Natlan" which an older speculated name for Natlan. Couldn't find the post though but it was on Reddit.
About Murata, I fully believe she never existed.
I agree
That is what happens when you let massive Honkai fanboys translate the Manga, the moment they see the word "Mu Nata" they instinctively think of Murata.
or maybe that was mavuika's name in the previous life..
@@jaskiratsingh7750 Honkai players: FUK!!! NO!!!
There is no Murata, only Xbalanque 😎😎😎
Your video makes me think if Bennett visits Natlan, his luck with drastically turn around (assuming he truly is of Natlanian descent)
1:36 mualani, kachina and kinich are new natlan 5-stars? (kachina is a 4-star)
You need to go find a certain cat in the night kingdom. They say some very sus things that really contribute to the shade of death stuff.
How to go to the night kingdom
@@MiyuKawasaki collect night jade and go to a certain location near the stadium and interact with it, then you will undergo a challenge to collect 5 or 6 chests there
@@hakimgamerzs5827 how do I get the night jade thing?
@@Lyneyfan70 if I'm not mistaken, you get night jade after completing 3 different world quests
@@hakimgamerzs5827 which ones 😭😭
Maybe this is me, but the amount I’ve seen the pyro archons get hate is just… a bit mind blowing to me. Just because they are humans doesn’t make them any less cool, or suddenly lesser than the archons that are elemental beings. It honestly ends up making their achievements cooler when you see that they contend with elemental beings.
And while we don’t know really much at all about the Cyro archon, it makes me wonder if the cyro archon has a particular ascension system, and if the cyro archon is like venti and zhongli in how she’s the first archon of her element. (I think it’s mentioned as early as the end of the Mondstat AQ that venti saw the Cyro archon 500 years ago but hasn’t seen her since, so I’m kinda hyped to know about her when she’s added in Snezhnaya next year.
What if Mavuika has to sacrifice herself to keep the Flame goin’? Then by the end of the Archon quest, the traveler inherits the throne just like any other who claimed the title before Mavuika’s resurrection.
Traveller cant get the throne , the archon has to be from natlan + should have ability to produce contending flames which traveller can never produce (only natlan people can do this)
do u not livestream anymore :(
I know it was a sponsored segment, but they really had to make you say " 1:31 " statement
Thats a big stretch there, Hoyo 💀
Xbalanque is the name of one of the Maya Hero Twins.
so maybe he outsmarted the Pyro Sovereign
The Eyes of Mavuika look a bit similiar to Surya Majapahit, which is the Emblem of Majapahit Empire. This empire have two design of it's Surya Majapahit
In before Traveller becomes the Pyro Archon in 5.2 and that’s when we gain our Pyro powers.
hi can u do video on the fake sky
im guessing traveler becomes the next pyro archon for like a day 😅
Could you please mention where you got the "Mavuikas' demon name from Ars Goetia is Haborym" information from?
It’s in the video, it’s exactly the NPC that was shown on screen!
Based on the current chosen heroes in Natlan, we can expect all heroes are 5 Star Characters in the future
Babe wake up, Minsleif uploaded
And if you dont see it the bottom of voicelines ( Traveller ) It’s was little bit strange for locked ? Do you have a idea about this ?
Oh I think its for after we finish kinich story quest
Traveler stories are locked until the end of the game
Wow I’m early, but very ready for the lore 💅🏼💅🏼
Mav is the third and fourth Archon❤
Capitano the first harbinger of fatui vs varka the grandmaster of favonius knight who wins
small question for everyone: since Mavuika was the pyro archon 500 years ago does that mean she’s the one on the statue of the seven? If so then that mean the statues were only made at that specific time in her image right?
I think the statue changes automatically by Celestia, because Fontaine people never knew how Focalors looked
@@MiyuKawasaki I don’t really think so. For one, Focalors and furina looked very similar to each other so they probably just assumed the statue was of furina or Egeria. And also Kachina mentioned that the statue looking like her was a coincidence. I have 2 theories rn: that either the heavenly principles change the statues and since they’ve been “asleep” for 500 years, it stayed as Mavuika since she was the archon at that time. 2: since Mavuika placed herself in the sacred flame, the statue still looks like her as she never truly died..? I’m definitely leaning more towards my former theory though.❤️
Minsleif. I am still waiting for you to drop another video. The latest Arcon quest in 5.1 patch, Natlan was released. Where are you?
I came here after 5.1 archon quest. And that ronova related to death is true, ronova is the goddess of death or ruler of death.
7:48
Ok, this is a reach but could the sage be our boy Ajaw?
The colors do line up, question is why his personality changed from helping humans to wanting Kinich dead ☠️
This is my theory
So, here is my Theory
Any unstable 3-dimensional space that it's not connected to the Imaginary Tree is a Buuble Universe. - Honkai Impact 3rd lore
We also know form in game (H13)
So, according to a combination of what Dr. MEI, Einstein, and Tesla (Hi3 Characters) say one the subject, all major universes radiate their “existence” to some degree, and then in the gap between universes, that existential radiation mingles and mixes and forms strange pocket dimensions that have some sort of resemblance that their origin universes, but are unstable and usually with some broken or incompatible physics. The more stable bubbles seem to operate on a smaller scale of big universe laws, but are still unstable on account of their limited size, as universes need to be a certain size to maintain themselves on the tree or they get “pruned”
This may be weird to say but the world of Teyvat is not large when we compare it to H13 which for all cases is the earth itself. The way we saw the sky in 5.1 quest also points out to this.
Also the Abssys for some reason makes and reads like 'The Honkai'
Honkai / 崩壊Houkai / 崩坏Bēnghuài, is a cyclical natural disaster phenomenon which periodically adjusts the universe.
Every once in a while, the Houkai will break out. The outbreak of the Houkai is irregular and unpredictable, making it highly dangerous. It has manifested in the past as a plague, meteors, volcanic activity and currently as a horde of beasts.
The Houkai has also been hinted to have their gender as female because most Herrschers are referred to with she/her pronouns. The Houkai also favours females as a vessel and females in general have higher houkai adaptability. -Source H13 lore wiki
The Abssys may as well be the Honkai and for some reason I think so Lumine may the Abssys Princess may be a Herrscher(Just saying)
I may not be able to be able to put in words but this is what I think myself. I just came up to this on a wimp, when I HomoLabs video on HI3 part 2; and started comparing it to Genshin Impact.
Also you may have noticed that Star rail has started to drift towards the lore of HI3. Which actually sounds cool and there it looks as if that is the end goal of Mihoyo. So, what makes Genshin so different. In GGZ Sirin caused the world reset to cause and overlap and reset of the world, just to point out.
My theory Mavuika also had a ancient name 500 years ago, right and her ancient name was Murata(old archon)
That would be insane connection in 6 choosen one mural there is also fire in center and that is Mavuika. She also have to awaken(aknowledged) by Murata and get her memory😂😂😂
If a vision holder wins the archonhood succession run of the pilgrimage do they lose their vision? do they double wield? does their fate change so much that the previous vision goes dormant? here's how kachina can still become the pyro archon
OMG THE NEW QUEST HAS THE GODDESS OF DEATH
The Murata thing was a mistranslation--it was actually "the children of [Mu-Natlan]"
does that mean that only those with pyro visions have the chance to be the pyro archon?
Best archon has to be Nahida! After that Furina/Focalors and Mauvika 3rd
Didn't previous Genshin medias mention that when an Archon's position is absent, someone with a vision can take their place?
We know that the war for the archon thrones pretty much killed everyone eligible otherwise.
Unless I hallucinated allat.
The only regions with their original archons r mondstadt and liyue innit
who were the pyro archons after she sacrifice her life to reincarnated in the future?
The way it's being presented in the story, kinda implies there hasn't been any. The plan was to sacrifice her life, meanwhile, the tribes should rebuild from the cataclysm, and then she comes back one day
@@MiyuKawasaki doesn't sound much right cause they all know about the how they choosing the archon and after she reincarnated she didn't just become the archon but she take part in the competition and win then become the archon. Also not many know she is the archon from 500 yrs ago. That means there were others who also took the place as archons before she took the title
This video really makes me think that Traveler will become a Pyro Archon in order to face Tsaritsa, a Cryo Archon.
Ah yes… Kachina… my favorite 5 star ⭐️
Idk how no one noticed but in travail trailer they refer to her as the god of war, but after we know that all pyro archons are humans they never mention her or any pyro archon as a god of war, because if you think about it in previous nations they will always once call their archon a god that they associated with but not in natlan, so is there a deeper meaning to it??? I honestly dont know😅
Im waiting for the 5.1 event explanationg about the fake sky
minsleif can you please make a lore video on kaeya?
What if her two old concept arts were one of the previous pyro archons.
hi minsleif!!!!!
So when you returning to stream?
So this is where the rest of the 5* pyro off fielders are were
Why's there reused footage in this video...
I would assume that Archons have an innate ability to age slowly or be immortal. Weird that out of all the creatures/races that ascended to godhood, Humans retain their regular aging
Does a person who wins the pilgrimage lose their element and gain the Pyro element or...
My head hurts.
Miss there something you need to know in 5.1 Archon. The Abby's is connected to celestia
And unknown god
Pls can you make a theory about it
Im convinced that Xbalanque didn't beat the pyro dragon with his own power not down play him though
He actually didn't I don't know if minslief read the record of hannan puccha or not but they say and also in one of the world quest that the wise sage waxaklam and the fool chaac defeated the original dragon sovereign xiuhcoatl and the great sage gave the power of pyrophosporite to the world
I want to know what is your reaction on the fourth anniversary genshin edit
6:17
Helluva Boss lore enjoyers hearing her pronounce “ars goetia”
(It’s pronounced ars go-e-shya)
hundred or archon?
i doubt it.
if true then statue of seven would change shape hundred of times.
i bet majority of them are archon in name only.
Mavuika is true archon recognize by the throne for past 500 years judging from statue,
everyone else probably borrow fraction of power from gnosis or rono a
I hope we see Dainsleif in Natlan 😊
The quest could be really crazy bc natlan has a lot to do with the Abyss
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