@@wade-cz4zc Im not a conspiracy theory douchebag. Or at least I dont believe in most conspiracies. Im actually a fan of him. But he is wholeheartedly intellectually dishonest at times. Maher will skirt the truth to make a point. Hes an entertainer. NOT actually a truth teller. Edit: He does say shit no one else will at times. And is right often. Buuut...there are times when im just disappointed with his plethora of rhetoric and complete disregard for logic on issues close to him.
As a former fat person, thank you to Charlemagne, Bill Maher, and anybody else who talks shit about fat people. I have a dark sense of humor and this is not that but it helped me drop 40lbs and keep it off 2 years now. Never going back to fat beach.
I want to thank Bill to from elementary to 8th grade I played lineman was an extra on the team lost the weight and lifted freshmen year went from the line that nobody knew I was on the team and became a WR making tds and being in local newspapers in the sport section
That guy talking with Charlemagne did not watch James Corden video on fat shaming. He wasn't enabling fat people he just gave his two cents on the delivery bill Maher gave on fat shaming. And if Charlemagne actually watched the full video on James Corden giving his opinion in the matter, James actually told his audience to go watch the whole bill Maher video because there were other things bill Maher mentioned worth listening to. If you think for one second that James Corden was enabling fat people in his video, then you should really educate yourself and not bluntly saying he's a "parasite" when you really haven't done your research on the person you blantly disrespected.
Shame does't work...it's funny shaming fat people and everyone is free to do it...but don't go around thinking you are saving the world making fun of people.
Shaming does work because after a while it's going to break you down and at a point effort will be made. Either you get shamed by your peers OR you get body shamed by your doctor as they tell you you're gonna die straight up
@@oluwahefner4194 that's not shaming dude...fat shaming is "moking someone whos fat" you are not shaming someone if you are concern about his healt and so you tell him to get better...and btw i'm not saying you shouldn't do it...just don't think you are doing something good..embrace the fact that you are a dick and make fun of everything you like
@@kyloshoren418 yes exactly , some people mock and make jokes about obesity and fatness and then hide behind this argument that they're trying to help using tough love but in reality , they're just being vindictive and don't want to admit it so they make fun of it to make themselves feel better cuz in their heads , they have a one up on fat people cuz they have a fast metabolism, if you want to help , you gotta sit them down and articulate how you want them to make a healthy change
If fat shaming works then why does the NHS send people to diatricians, not low rate comedians to mock them? Dietry advice helped me somewhat in the begining, but I have serious mental illness that just wasn't helped, so it only went so far. Shaming is a poor motivator as it makes people feel like shit and use comfort eating as a coping mechanism. Bill Maher is an idiot on this subject.
Fittness programs help. Diet programs help. Looking at ways to improve their mental health can help. Even cooking lessons can be useful. No one signs up for a fat shaming coach because it's just not helpful. It doesn't tell you how to improve it just shames you for not improving. The guy at 'Every Damn Day Fitness' helps people loose weight. He doesn't fat shame, yet he also doesn't sugar coat things either, which may not be appropriate for some people, yet he does actually care. He doesn't blame or shame the person, but realises that it's a long road for them and that it's possible to turn things around. What really pisses me off almost as much as the fat shamers is those who ignore the pathology of obesity. Even summo wrestlers aren't healthy. Why does advocating health require being a dick to unhealthy people? We don't shame smokers, we provide mechanisms for them to quit, then take them away once a couple of people die from black market e-liquid. We don't shame drug addicts. Portugal tried that and now they actually help them instead. Bill Maher is going backwards.
The thing is why does it matter if you support or you don't. If someone is happy with their lifestyle let them be happy, if they aren't then that is their shit to deal with. If you have a lifestyle that I dont think is healthy, I feel like you too wouldn't care if I supported it or not.
@@ween.7563 that was his point. But if u don't wanna Google in a nut shell she is a vanilla ass candidate along the lines of Hilary Clinton and will get smoked by Trump
Try and understand what they mean by ‘fat-shaming’ in this context. Repeatedly mentions it in the beginning, and definitely not meant the way most people think!
I hope people will be curious enough to actually go listen to James Corden's rebuttal if they haven't yet. Lenard's account doesn't even come close to making it justice. But if there's one thing to take from it, it's that's there's no such thing as "fat shaming". It's good old fashioned bullying. You can't keep talking yourself into delusion and keep thinking you're acting out of the kindness of your heart: you're doing this for yourself. Whether you resent having to do it or whether you're proud of doing it, you bully "lesser bodies" so you can pat yourself on the back for going to the gym and/or eating kale all day (and not have to be the bullied ones). It's your call. It's fine. But quit the hypocrisy. You're no Mother Theresa's. You're not heroes. You're villains.
I call it the "Punching Bag" mindset. Hurt people tend to shame others because they feel confort in the fact that they have company in their Pain. Fat shaming has nothing to do with Health concerns. Honestly, the Fitness community has more unhealthy people and unhealthy practices than any other communities, but since they "Look Good", it can pass. Shaming is not the same as Motivating. Shaming is giving emotional pain, while Motivating is giving encouragement.
merard christian the fitness community is less healthy than the general American community? Dumbest shit I’ve heard all year 😂 What next? The desert community knows more about surfing than the surfing community?
I always thought I was fat because of something I was doing wrong even though I ate better than alot of people I know and it just made me more depressed. Then I would get into this spiral where if it doesn't work eating healthy fuck it I'll eat what I want. A year ago I had weight loss surgery and the scale still barely moved. I finally found out just a week ago I have Diverticulitis and Hashimoto thyroiditis and autoimmune disease that messes up your hormones and metabolism. Also found out I'm basically allergic to everything. Now I'm on a proper diet that's already shown great success my pain is down and my energy is up.
Yes Sister, congratulations now that you know the cause of why the scale doesn't budge being proactive I Know you will meet yr goals. 🙏 Up. I can relate, I'm also carrying too many LBS,let's do this
That's fair and im glad you found out the root cause. But for the vast majority of people that's not the case. Thats why diabetes and heart disease are called preventable diseases
Like Cordon said, "fat shaming never went away." Charlemagne purposely leaves that line out because it doesnt fit his narrative of focusing on the new york times article instead of the mental health issues created by the lifelong "shaming" fat people go through. The easiest go to for anyone to get a quick laugh or to one up a person is a fat joke or comment.
Charlamange never ever missed a chance to tall about mental illness and therapy. So I know you lying. I'm glad he disnt pick up on that because i do not want to heat him talk about mental health no damn more. If you fat lose weight end of story.
Gordon also said that the conversation is bigger than fat shaming and obesity is a problem. so in a way you are also looking at 1 sound bite and dismissing everything else. shaming might work on some people and on some it doesnt. there isnt any statistics to show if shaming works on more people than helpful advise.
Okay, so everybody is saying obesity is an individual problem and to an extent it is. However, obesity in America comes from a variety of things. James Gordon was just trying to point out that some people can't control how much weight they gain. If we really want to solve the issues why are we making it rational for people to eat junk food, instead of eating healthy food. Make Healthy Food more accessable!
I don’t think you properly watched James Cordon’s response to Bill. He stated that fat shaming was not the solution but portion control, education, and proper health care is. He said it needed discussed by professionals and agreed with some of Bill’s arguments. He was aware that this is a major problem but stated fat shaming would do nothing to help. As people who are skinny and have never dealt with being over weight, I don’t think it’s correct for you to assume it’s something one can easily change. Shaming someone will not always make them lose weight. Fat people are aware their fat, they’re not stupid and don’t need others reminding them they are. Shaming is equivalent to bullying and will most likely deteriorate their self esteem and probably lead to greater health issues. Think about what you say and how it may affect the people around you.
I 100% agree with this. obesity goes hand in hand with mental health. And everyone knows shamming someone with mental illness will only make there situation worse.
Nice, pretend interest in mental health, yet totally IGNORE that EMOTIONAL OVEREATING is a very serious problem with in the mental health conversation. Especially within the black community. Okay, I got you, now I understand, no better than the rest of the people making money off of the issues of others.
Bill Maher has recently changed his views on multiple topics alienating a majority of his original audience. Personally I believe he's just a talking head and should not be taken seriously.
Every person knows what size they are believe me. It doesn’t need to be pointed out to them. The poorest people do not have access to fresh, healthy food. I remember buying 4 boxes of Mac & Cheese for a dollar. Was that healthy? No not the best choice but when you’re poor that’s what you have access to. Does Bill Maher shame alcoholics or drug addicts or people with suicidal tendencies? Show me how shaming works in those cases.
@Avadh Patel Tell me people living paycheck to paycheck, trying to afford rent, daycare, working more than one job are able to afford what is healthy. They need diapers, formula, a living wage. You’re inability to understand astounds me. Do you think people want to be fat? I bet nobody would answer yes.
@Avadh Patel Then go tell a fat person your great advice. I weigh 114lb. I just don’t think people should be shamed into doing something. Write an Op Ed. Do something useful.
If fat shaming works then why does the NHS send people to diatricians, not low rate comedians to mock them? Dietry advice helped me somewhat in the begining, but I have serious mental illness that just wasn't helped, so it only went so far. Shaming is a poor motivator as it makes people feel like shit and use comfort eating as a coping mechanism. Bill Maher is an idiot on this subject.
I’ve never been more disappointed to call myself a charla fan. If you agree with bill on certain ideals than so be it. But to sit here and try to defend him after he has a history of making an ass of himself is sad. I’m big sad
James Gordon had a really fair and thoughtful response to it but its still full of the same excuses I've made. I can see it and I'm still working on myself too but when people keep telling you about it you're going to wake up to reality
That's fine if someone you know or love is constantly telling you to lose weight. But no one wants to be ridiculed constantly by people that they don't know. And if it's a constant thing all day every day then it could lead to depression and the person getting bigger. I don't think that it is as simple as fat shaming works. Some people are not built mentally to be shamed constantly.
@@Wizznilliam it really depends how sensitive you are. Personally, I'm open minded & I take criticism on board. But other people take criticism as a personal attack
@@michael43567 Yes. And if you don't know that person then you don't know which you are talking to. And if it is the person who can't take personal attacks you also don't know how many that person has already absorbed. Especially in a grade school or high school environment where kids are vicious.
@@Wizznilliam like ctg said, if you're not insecure about it, it won't affect you. If someone says I have 2 toes, im not gonna react angrily cause I know that's not true. I agree with your second point tho. I got bullied in school (over things I was insecure about). It wasn't so much that I was insecure, that made me upset/ angry, it was the amount of people joining in & the frequency of the insults. Constant name calling is unacceptable & it takes its toll on you, especially on kids
He calls it Mexican Shootout, its a Mexican Standoff. Charlamagne continues to call him racist for not being aware of the common accepted term that he slightly misspoke on. "Circular firing squad" lmfao. Charla is something else.
My point is why are you harassing and bulling people about their weight? Fat people know they are fat! Anyone that feels the need to harrass people about how they look! Has nothing to do with the fat person but you! The fact that you go out of your way to suame people means you need ot to feel better about yourself!
"He's just focusing on the fat shaming part" Well, I mean, that's the only part he had a problem with 😐. Charlemagne even pointed out that Carden even agreed with Maher on the obesity issue. Carden was basically just saying you don't have to be an asshole about it. And of course Schulz was Schulzing the entire time.
I don't need "you" to tell me I'm fat and what I need to do to lose weight, especially if I didn't ask or opened up to hearing it. "Fat shaming" is bullying, mean words or expressions used to call out the embarrassment in a person. No one should be criticized by another about their decisions they make in their life. Can we just think before we speak and consider the best way to help each other up instead of breaking each other down
Shame doesn’t work if you’re not ashamed of what they’re trying to shame you about if you’re a big person and don’t mind being big what is shaming going to do?But if you actually talk to somebody like you care about their health that’ll work better than “fat mother fucker lose weight “
If someone doesn't mind being fat talking to them is not going to work either. Yhey dont mind being fat they will brush it off and go in on those chicken wings
Dark n Lovely I didn’t mind being fat 💯because I grew up fat so it wasn’t a issue I was always active but I liked eating I still do but when my girl came and said maybe I should eat healthier I lost almost 100 pounds .not because she shamed me or ridiculed me it was because she showed genuine concern
@@ACommonNostalgic well its 8 billion ppl in this world you're one of many. Some ppl got teased and disnt like being fat and they lost the weight some ppl don't care and keep the weight some ppl for told by a doctor they have to lose the weight and others like yourself get pushed by the wife to do things together and lose the weight. All the same outcome except the one that dont care
I may of not liked Obama, but I let him do his job and didnt cry like a sissy for 8 years about it. If Obama acted like Trump they would be cheering their asses off. Trump doesn't play and gets things done. Democrats just want your vote and that's it. They will dangle the word free in your face and say people are racist cause it pisses you off
I agree that shaming can work. But there are people that are fat because of a lot of reasons beyond themselves. We understand that people need to eat better and exercise. But many people don’t know how to make that lifestyle change. It’s hard for the middle to lower class family that has 2 kids and 50000 a year to make a massive lifestyle change away from cheap bad food and to start working out. So yes shame people, but offer a good solution as well.
I agree with Bill Maher on most things as far as social issues and stuff. I just dont like some of the corporate Democrats he tries to champion. I cant tell If he is grifting on purpose or just oblivious sometimes but he is funny.
You're very wrong about everything here . You CAN absolutely make someone feel shame about things that they ought not be ashamed. Rape victims and victims of child molestation more often than not feel shame from what has happened to them. The attitude and philosophy you speak so brazenly of is the reason that they feel shame. Every person who is overweight has been shamed by someone.... either in their family, or a so-called friend, or by a stranger on the street, or by this very shallow society we live in and its contempt for "unattractive" people. And yet, somehow, with all that 'righteous' shaming going on, obese people continue to exist. So clearly shame does not work - - at least not in the way you think it does. Although, if you choose to ridicule and shame fat people, perhaps you might be able to push them into suicide. Then you can happily be rid of them forever.
Maher USED to be good, lately he has been full of hypocrisy and charla and mahar are no longer in touch w whats going on. U can tell shulzy doesn't think Maher is any good lol
I’m done with Bill Maher. I was an obsessive watcher of Real Time for years but I’m done. Bill Maher can enjoy the smell of his own farts without me from no on. PS: Real Time with Jon Stewart has a nice ring to it.
Listen in my opinion , shame works on some people which motivates them to go to the gym and get they ass to the gym but some people are empaths and they feel their feelings too much so it would just make it worse if you shame them
I never know a fat person that works out more than me. Thats some shitty arrogance dude. You were born lean. I dropped sugar since i was 16 to get into shape. Just because weight can be dropped and in general it is unhealthy to be fat, don’t say that some people are not gifted with good genes
Bill is out of line it's not anyone's responsibility to tell fat people to stop being fat. They all know they're fat. That being said I'm not about to compliment people that are fat. I think now the expectation is that fat people should be appreciated for being fat an I'm off that
People who don't struggle with their weight shouldn't judge people who do. Some people are genetically predisposed to store more fat than others. If it was so esay we wouldn't have a multibillion dollar fat lost industry.
No......we should not going to all you can eat and acting like the hot dog eating conest on Coney island.....plus.....making the money i make its cheaper
Question nether one of yall has ever have to diet exercise or anything else Yall talk a good games, but i don't see one of you out there trying to help anybody to lose weight. You talk a goid games but no follow up
@@damysticalone3393 Yup. Which is how I know that Mueller highlighted 10 examples of obstruction of justice. Him not straight up saying anything has nothing to do with Trump not doing anything wrong and everything to do with DOJ guidelines pretty much saying that he can't do anything. That's why he gave the report to Congress because they CAN do something about it.
@@Deemo202 that's bullshit you can't point out one crime 45 committed. Point it out the DOJ guidelines excuse is bullshit too. Because if he committed a crime he would be held accountable otherwise there would be no reason for an investigation
SHAGGY: IT WASNT ME
SIX9INE: YES IT WAS
Loool. You been waiting to get that off
@@michael43567 lmao
Charlemagne saying Bill Maher is the only one telling the truth shows how little he knows about politics
That's why he endorses a terrible prosecutor like Kamala Harris and kissed Clinton's ass. He's a lapdog for the establishment.
Y'all sound like conspiracy theory douchebags. I'm sure you have remarks on who tells the truth right?
@@opethdan2408 u def right he actually fake woke, he doesnt know anything but is a good rhethoric
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Bill maher is the shit. He tells it as it is. I fcuks with bill
@@wade-cz4zc Im not a conspiracy theory douchebag. Or at least I dont believe in most conspiracies.
Im actually a fan of him. But he is wholeheartedly intellectually dishonest at times. Maher will skirt the truth to make a point.
Hes an entertainer. NOT actually a truth teller.
Edit: He does say shit no one else will at times. And is right often. Buuut...there are times when im just disappointed with his plethora of rhetoric and complete disregard for logic on issues close to him.
Americans have an issue with food, the whole country want to believe that actions have no consequences
As a former fat person, thank you to Charlemagne, Bill Maher, and anybody else who talks shit about fat people. I have a dark sense of humor and this is not that but it helped me drop 40lbs and keep it off 2 years now. Never going back to fat beach.
I want to thank Bill to from elementary to 8th grade I played lineman was an extra on the team lost the weight and lifted freshmen year went from the line that nobody knew I was on the team and became a WR making tds and being in local newspapers in the sport section
That guy talking with Charlemagne did not watch James Corden video on fat shaming. He wasn't enabling fat people he just gave his two cents on the delivery bill Maher gave on fat shaming. And if Charlemagne actually watched the full video on James Corden giving his opinion in the matter, James actually told his audience to go watch the whole bill Maher video because there were other things bill Maher mentioned worth listening to. If you think for one second that James Corden was enabling fat people in his video, then you should really educate yourself and not bluntly saying he's a "parasite" when you really haven't done your research on the person you blantly disrespected.
This is from before the whole cordon thing
Agree 100%
James Corden made it all about himself....... hes the most irritating muppet on the planet.
Shame does't work...it's funny shaming fat people and everyone is free to do it...but don't go around thinking you are saving the world making fun of people.
Shaming does work because after a while it's going to break you down and at a point effort will be made. Either you get shamed by your peers OR you get body shamed by your doctor as they tell you you're gonna die straight up
@@oluwahefner4194 that's not shaming dude...fat shaming is "moking someone whos fat" you are not shaming someone if you are concern about his healt and so you tell him to get better...and btw i'm not saying you shouldn't do it...just don't think you are doing something good..embrace the fact that you are a dick and make fun of everything you like
@@kyloshoren418 yes exactly , some people mock and make jokes about obesity and fatness and then hide behind this argument that they're trying to help using tough love but in reality , they're just being vindictive and don't want to admit it so they make fun of it to make themselves feel better cuz in their heads , they have a one up on fat people cuz they have a fast metabolism, if you want to help , you gotta sit them down and articulate how you want them to make a healthy change
@@saades4018 if you fat lose weight and the jokes will stop. Or learn how to snap on others and the jokes will slow down.
@@saades4018 and no you dony have to sit down every fat person to tell them to lose weight. This is a stupid comment
Lmao Body shaming shouldn't even be a thing, I'm not supporting anyones unhealthy lifestyle.
See thats whats wrong with you people always shaming.... JK😂😂😂 this accept everything mentally is retarded.
If fat shaming works then why does the NHS send people to diatricians, not low rate comedians to mock them? Dietry advice helped me somewhat in the begining, but I have serious mental illness that just wasn't helped, so it only went so far. Shaming is a poor motivator as it makes people feel like shit and use comfort eating as a coping mechanism. Bill Maher is an idiot on this subject.
Fittness programs help. Diet programs help. Looking at ways to improve their mental health can help. Even cooking lessons can be useful. No one signs up for a fat shaming coach because it's just not helpful. It doesn't tell you how to improve it just shames you for not improving. The guy at 'Every Damn Day Fitness' helps people loose weight. He doesn't fat shame, yet he also doesn't sugar coat things either, which may not be appropriate for some people, yet he does actually care. He doesn't blame or shame the person, but realises that it's a long road for them and that it's possible to turn things around.
What really pisses me off almost as much as the fat shamers is those who ignore the pathology of obesity. Even summo wrestlers aren't healthy. Why does advocating health require being a dick to unhealthy people? We don't shame smokers, we provide mechanisms for them to quit, then take them away once a couple of people die from black market e-liquid. We don't shame drug addicts. Portugal tried that and now they actually help them instead. Bill Maher is going backwards.
The thing is why does it matter if you support or you don't. If someone is happy with their lifestyle let them be happy, if they aren't then that is their shit to deal with. If you have a lifestyle that I dont think is healthy, I feel like you too wouldn't care if I supported it or not.
Loool how can people be mad at you helping them to live longer
Bill Maher just endorsed Amy klobuchar. Dude is off his rocker
Who?
@@matthenry2564 exactly hahaha
@@ween.7563 dude use Google.
Facts this man is out of touch
@@ween.7563 that was his point. But if u don't wanna Google in a nut shell she is a vanilla ass candidate along the lines of Hilary Clinton and will get smoked by Trump
Yo is that PC running windows 7, I was wondering where I seen that login screen before. Bro, join us in 2019
windows 7 was the one, i wish i still had it.
You think fat shaming works. It could have the opposite effect.
Try and understand what they mean by ‘fat-shaming’ in this context. Repeatedly mentions it in the beginning, and definitely not meant the way most people think!
Wait, just remembered...
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As you were gentlemen.
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Found the fat kid
Charlamagne is dense in regards to politics. The US government is the "same as it ever was..."
I hope people will be curious enough to actually go listen to James Corden's rebuttal if they haven't yet. Lenard's account doesn't even come close to making it justice.
But if there's one thing to take from it, it's that's there's no such thing as "fat shaming". It's good old fashioned bullying.
You can't keep talking yourself into delusion and keep thinking you're acting out of the kindness of your heart: you're doing this for yourself.
Whether you resent having to do it or whether you're proud of doing it, you bully "lesser bodies" so you can pat yourself on the back for going to the gym and/or eating kale all day (and not have to be the bullied ones).
It's your call. It's fine. But quit the hypocrisy. You're no Mother Theresa's. You're not heroes. You're villains.
Blu There are no fat people in heaven.
Of course ! I'm pretty sure heaven would be what you'd like it to be. In mine there are no ignorant people. One can only dream (:
David Heller you’ve been??
I call it the "Punching Bag" mindset. Hurt people tend to shame others because they feel confort in the fact that they have company in their Pain. Fat shaming has nothing to do with Health concerns. Honestly, the Fitness community has more unhealthy people and unhealthy practices than any other communities, but since they "Look Good", it can pass. Shaming is not the same as Motivating. Shaming is giving emotional pain, while Motivating is giving encouragement.
merard christian the fitness community is less healthy than the general American community? Dumbest shit I’ve heard all year 😂 What next? The desert community knows more about surfing than the surfing community?
merard christian smh backwards
I always thought I was fat because of something I was doing wrong even though I ate better than alot of people I know and it just made me more depressed. Then I would get into this spiral where if it doesn't work eating healthy fuck it I'll eat what I want. A year ago I had weight loss surgery and the scale still barely moved. I finally found out just a week ago I have Diverticulitis and Hashimoto thyroiditis and autoimmune disease that messes up your hormones and metabolism. Also found out I'm basically allergic to everything. Now I'm on a proper diet that's already shown great success my pain is down and my energy is up.
Yes Sister, congratulations now that you know the cause of why the scale doesn't budge being proactive I Know you will meet yr goals. 🙏 Up. I can relate, I'm also carrying too many LBS,let's do this
That's fair and im glad you found out the root cause. But for the vast majority of people that's not the case. Thats why diabetes and heart disease are called preventable diseases
Like Cordon said, "fat shaming never went away." Charlemagne purposely leaves that line out because it doesnt fit his narrative of focusing on the new york times article instead of the mental health issues created by the lifelong "shaming" fat people go through. The easiest go to for anyone to get a quick laugh or to one up a person is a fat joke or comment.
Charlamange never ever missed a chance to tall about mental illness and therapy. So I know you lying. I'm glad he disnt pick up on that because i do not want to heat him talk about mental health no damn more. If you fat lose weight end of story.
I'm sure fat shaming causes anxiety in overweight people.
@@Honesty_iznever_popular if you have mental issues, get the fuck over it. How you sound right now.
U sound fat.
@@revcoston you spell like your mom does opiods.
Gordon also said that the conversation is bigger than fat shaming and obesity is a problem. so in a way you are also looking at 1 sound bite and dismissing everything else. shaming might work on some people and on some it doesnt. there isnt any statistics to show if shaming works on more people than helpful advise.
Fuck them fat cunts
@4:00: "We get so distracted!"
10 seconds later: gets distracted by his phone
Okay, so everybody is saying obesity is an individual problem and to an extent it is. However, obesity in America comes from a variety of things. James Gordon was just trying to point out that some people can't control how much weight they gain. If we really want to solve the issues why are we making it rational for people to eat junk food, instead of eating healthy food. Make Healthy Food more accessable!
I don’t think you properly watched James Cordon’s response to Bill. He stated that fat shaming was not the solution but portion control, education, and proper health care is. He said it needed discussed by professionals and agreed with some of Bill’s arguments. He was aware that this is a major problem but stated fat shaming would do nothing to help.
As people who are skinny and have never dealt with being over weight, I don’t think it’s correct for you to assume it’s something one can easily change. Shaming someone will not always make them lose weight. Fat people are aware their fat, they’re not stupid and don’t need others reminding them they are.
Shaming is equivalent to bullying and will most likely deteriorate their self esteem and probably lead to greater health issues. Think about what you say and how it may affect the people around you.
I 100% agree with this. obesity goes hand in hand with mental health. And everyone knows shamming someone with mental illness will only make there situation worse.
Nice, pretend interest in mental health, yet totally IGNORE that EMOTIONAL OVEREATING is a very serious problem with in the mental health conversation. Especially within the black community. Okay, I got you, now I understand, no better than the rest of the people making money off of the issues of others.
You must be fat
Charlemagne Look Up Jimmy Dore Show
The socialist? You love taxes huh??
@@GMoney-ul6uj He A Social Democrats Like MLK
Bill Maher has recently changed his views on multiple topics alienating a majority of his original audience. Personally I believe he's just a talking head and should not be taken seriously.
How dare he have the wrong opinions now. He must be canceled. Great point🤓😂
Bill Maher unironically thought superheroes and comic books were why we got Trump. He doesn’t speak truth at all
Every person knows what size they are believe me. It doesn’t need to be pointed out to them. The poorest people do not have access to fresh, healthy food. I remember buying 4 boxes of Mac & Cheese for a dollar. Was that healthy? No not the best choice but when you’re poor that’s what you have access to. Does Bill Maher shame alcoholics or drug addicts or people with suicidal tendencies? Show me how shaming works in those cases.
@Avadh Patel Tell me people living paycheck to paycheck, trying to afford rent, daycare, working more than one job are able to afford what is healthy. They need diapers, formula, a living wage. You’re inability to understand astounds me. Do you think people want to be fat? I bet nobody would answer yes.
@Avadh Patel Then go tell a fat person your great advice. I weigh 114lb. I just don’t think people should be shamed into doing something. Write an Op Ed. Do something useful.
@Avadh Patel I shall recommend you for sainthood. I would never go up to a complete stranger and shame them for anything.
If fat shaming works then why does the NHS send people to diatricians, not low rate comedians to mock them? Dietry advice helped me somewhat in the begining, but I have serious mental illness that just wasn't helped, so it only went so far. Shaming is a poor motivator as it makes people feel like shit and use comfort eating as a coping mechanism. Bill Maher is an idiot on this subject.
I’ve never been more disappointed to call myself a charla fan. If you agree with bill on certain ideals than so be it. But to sit here and try to defend him after he has a history of making an ass of himself is sad. I’m big sad
Charlemagne has become a Beta male !!
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That's a side effect of too much booty hole bleaching
@@firghteningtruth7173 Famous words from Jesse Lee Peterson, LOL !!
@@emoquent9447 LOLOLOLOL !!
Shaming does not work to help anyone!
James Gordon had a really fair and thoughtful response to it but its still full of the same excuses I've made. I can see it and I'm still working on myself too but when people keep telling you about it you're going to wake up to reality
That's fine if someone you know or love is constantly telling you to lose weight. But no one wants to be ridiculed constantly by people that they don't know. And if it's a constant thing all day every day then it could lead to depression and the person getting bigger. I don't think that it is as simple as fat shaming works. Some people are not built mentally to be shamed constantly.
@@Wizznilliam it really depends how sensitive you are. Personally, I'm open minded & I take criticism on board. But other people take criticism as a personal attack
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Yes. And if you don't know that person then you don't know which you are talking to. And if it is the person who can't take personal attacks you also don't know how many that person has already absorbed. Especially in a grade school or high school environment where kids are vicious.
@@Wizznilliam like ctg said, if you're not insecure about it, it won't affect you. If someone says I have 2 toes, im not gonna react angrily cause I know that's not true.
I agree with your second point tho. I got bullied in school (over things I was insecure about). It wasn't so much that I was insecure, that made me upset/ angry, it was the amount of people joining in & the frequency of the insults. Constant name calling is unacceptable & it takes its toll on you, especially on kids
Real talk
I think the situation with Jillian Michaels and lizzo comes to this. And what people like Charlamagne and Bill Maher get
I can’t stop staring at Charlemagne squiggly vein on his temple
He calls it Mexican Shootout, its a Mexican Standoff. Charlamagne continues to call him racist for not being aware of the common accepted term that he slightly misspoke on. "Circular firing squad" lmfao. Charla is something else.
Charla read all of bill mahers comments but paraphrased the shit out of james cordons response. You can tell this wasn’t an objective opinion at all.
"Left" .."Right"... both sheeple
Why do you always have strangers on their phones in the background?
Jay W11 you’re definitely new here if you don’t know who that is...
CDiddy is a legend, not a stranger!!! LMAO
CDiddy is the producer, all up in the videos. You must be new here
Your not fat unless you're CthaGod's friend 😂😂😂😂😂
Hypotheticals Are Pointless *you’re
this is the Idiots part
It's easy to tell folks who are effortlessly skinny that people should lose weight.
Bert definitely works out more than Andrew.
My point is why are you harassing and bulling people about their weight?
Fat people know they are fat!
Anyone that feels the need to harrass people about how they look! Has nothing to do with the fat person but you!
The fact that you go out of your way to suame people means you need ot to feel better about yourself!
I like people who doesn't talk about things convenient and think freely. One of the reasons I enjoy this podcast.
"He's just focusing on the fat shaming part"
Well, I mean, that's the only part he had a problem with 😐. Charlemagne even pointed out that Carden even agreed with Maher on the obesity issue. Carden was basically just saying you don't have to be an asshole about it.
And of course Schulz was Schulzing the entire time.
I don't need "you" to tell me I'm fat and what I need to do to lose weight, especially if I didn't ask or opened up to hearing it. "Fat shaming" is bullying, mean words or expressions used to call out the embarrassment in a person. No one should be criticized by another about their decisions they make in their life. Can we just think before we speak and consider the best way to help each other up instead of breaking each other down
Shame doesn’t work if you’re not ashamed of what they’re trying to shame you about if you’re a big person and don’t mind being big what is shaming going to do?But if you actually talk to somebody like you care about their health that’ll work better than “fat mother fucker lose weight “
If someone doesn't mind being fat talking to them is not going to work either. Yhey dont mind being fat they will brush it off and go in on those chicken wings
Dark n Lovely I didn’t mind being fat 💯because I grew up fat so it wasn’t a issue I was always active but I liked eating I still do but when my girl came and said maybe I should eat healthier I lost almost 100 pounds .not because she shamed me or ridiculed me it was because she showed genuine concern
@@ACommonNostalgic well its 8 billion ppl in this world you're one of many. Some ppl got teased and disnt like being fat and they lost the weight some ppl don't care and keep the weight some ppl for told by a doctor they have to lose the weight and others like yourself get pushed by the wife to do things together and lose the weight. All the same outcome except the one that dont care
People with unnatural bodies feel ashamed
Actually if you read or watched what James said he did address healthcare and poverty
Why does Charlamange hate Trump so much??
Foe Moe Years black media has to hate trump in the public or else they’re not black anymore
Same reason those conservatives hated Obama, just cuz...
I may of not liked Obama, but I let him do his job and didnt cry like a sissy for 8 years about it. If Obama acted like Trump they would be cheering their asses off. Trump doesn't play and gets things done. Democrats just want your vote and that's it. They will dangle the word free in your face and say people are racist cause it pisses you off
I agree that shaming can work. But there are people that are fat because of a lot of reasons beyond themselves. We understand that people need to eat better and exercise. But many people don’t know how to make that lifestyle change. It’s hard for the middle to lower class family that has 2 kids and 50000 a year to make a massive lifestyle change away from cheap bad food and to start working out. So yes shame people, but offer a good solution as well.
In the future you can be Transhumanist this will change society forever. You can be what you want and no more abortion debates.
I agree with Bill Maher on most things as far as social issues and stuff. I just dont like some of the corporate Democrats he tries to champion. I cant tell If he is grifting on purpose or just oblivious sometimes but he is funny.
James Corden made some good points, but it still sounded like excuses. It's really not that hard to lose weight. Eat less, workout regularly
Can people who don't struggle with their weight stop telling people how easy it is to lose weight?
@@timothywatters4774 fyi timmy, I've had issues gaining weight not too long ago. And I was obese when I was younger timmy.
Timothy Watters not everyone struggles
@@timothywatters4774 I'm fat as fuck and guess what it's cause I ate a lot and didn't exercise.What the man said was the truth.
Football players, Weight lifters, etc. exercise and are also large.
Andrew didnt even saw what corden said
Bill Maher founded *KID LOVE PRODUCTIONS*
.....ummmmm, yeah
Jimmy dore , check him up, the only comedian telling the truth
Wade Ramos YES
FACTS!
DRINKING GAME - Take a shot every time Charlemagne calls somebody racist or mentions Trump on this podcast
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You're very wrong about everything here . You CAN absolutely make someone feel shame about things that they ought not be ashamed. Rape victims and victims of child molestation more often than not feel shame from what has happened to them. The attitude and philosophy you speak so brazenly of is the reason that they feel shame. Every person who is overweight has been shamed by someone.... either in their family, or a so-called friend, or by a stranger on the street, or by this very shallow society we live in and its contempt for "unattractive" people. And yet, somehow, with all that 'righteous' shaming going on, obese people continue to exist. So clearly shame does not work - - at least not in the way you think it does. Although, if you choose to ridicule and shame fat people, perhaps you might be able to push them into suicide. Then you can happily be rid of them forever.
I dont gonout cause of fat people.
Just order things online.
Maher USED to be good, lately he has been full of hypocrisy and charla and mahar are no longer in touch w whats going on. U can tell shulzy doesn't think Maher is any good lol
Wish we could focus more on the parasite behavior of quite a lot of media or entertainment figures looking for social justice and a pat on the back.
No it's not!! It's from depression!! Some Ppl hate life & Charlemagne can not change that!!
teddylifer so ALL people are obese because they’re depressed?
Lmao he said Maher is center...oh my god you have forsaken the education of these dudes!
Wait, is TBI still happening, or did it come back? I thought there is only Flagrant now. 😆 i'm confused.
I’m done with Bill Maher. I was an obsessive watcher of Real Time for years but I’m done. Bill Maher can enjoy the smell of his own farts without me from no on.
PS: Real Time with Jon Stewart has a nice ring to it.
Listen in my opinion , shame works on some people which motivates them to go to the gym and get they ass to the gym but some people are empaths and they feel their feelings too much so it would just make it worse if you shame them
I never know a fat person that works out more than me. Thats some shitty arrogance dude. You were born lean. I dropped sugar since i was 16 to get into shape. Just because weight can be dropped and in general it is unhealthy to be fat, don’t say that some people are not gifted with good genes
Maher still doesn't get a hood pass to say the n word though. Talk about that cthagod
twiWright25 wow your big brain is tackling the REAL issues. LMAOO
@@Jgrish why isn't yours?
Bill is out of line it's not anyone's responsibility to tell fat people to stop being fat. They all know they're fat. That being said I'm not about to compliment people that are fat. I think now the expectation is that fat people should be appreciated for being fat an I'm off that
Bill Maher? Lmao. Cmon man
Check out Jimmy Dore and RT America for better news
Andrew is 100% right
People who don't struggle with their weight shouldn't judge people who do. Some people are genetically predisposed to store more fat than others. If it was so esay we wouldn't have a multibillion dollar fat lost industry.
Yeah but being predisposed to storing more fat doesn't mean you should be OBESE.
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I got called a pothead once.. straight up quit weed the next day. Shaming works because it tells you others are noticing your shitty habits.
Insightful
I swear they only speak truth on this podcast
Damn. Charlemagne doesnt really know shit. Bill Maher has been losing credibility daily.
So y’all got opinions, huh?
Mmmmmm........dumplings
No......we should not going to all you can eat and acting like the hot dog eating conest on Coney island.....plus.....making the money i make its cheaper
6:43 What did he say?
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"Mexican shooting"
Bill Maher lol really?
Charlemagne: Trump is out here committing crimes.
Trump: But where tho.
What crimes is Trump committing?
snitch9ine
Question nether one of yall has ever have to diet exercise or anything else
Yall talk a good games, but i don't see one of you out there trying to help anybody to lose weight. You talk a goid games but no follow up
Can we get the episode vlad 🤦🏾♂️😂😉
Lol, Bill Maher? Char...... you a chump!! 🤦♂️
What crimes did Trump commit?
What is a Chris? What does it do?
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CTG - again, shouting into the mic. Relax, bruh!
(Sound engineer, please)
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The right needs more criticism than the left? What?
Bill Maher is absolutely brilliant, definitely a voice that’s needed in the media
What crimes has 45 committed 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Have you read the Mueller report?
@@Deemo202 have you?
@@damysticalone3393 Yup. Which is how I know that Mueller highlighted 10 examples of obstruction of justice. Him not straight up saying anything has nothing to do with Trump not doing anything wrong and everything to do with DOJ guidelines pretty much saying that he can't do anything. That's why he gave the report to Congress because they CAN do something about it.
@@Deemo202 that's bullshit you can't point out one crime 45 committed. Point it out the DOJ guidelines excuse is bullshit too. Because if he committed a crime he would be held accountable otherwise there would be no reason for an investigation
What crime did trump commit that he was obstructing?????