I feel like bannerlord is missing dialogue options with nobles and people in general. No longer can we ask nobles to follow our party, no longer can we ask them where they last saw someone, now you just look up that persons name on the encyclopedia.
When I bought Bannerlords at release I immediately noticed the oversimplified and boring UI and Hud. Theres just no charm to be found here. I know it sounds crazy but I still like Warband more for that reason alone
The main thing with warband is the base game armor can be op and u can just wreck everything banner lord more strategic and the factions have a lot more weakness swadia op run down everything super fun
The Armor is not that op...you still need to pay a big ammount for the best ones, and unless you fight a deserter party of Swadian Knights there is no way to get it (Unless you get it from your start) And while yes, bannerlord focuses a lot in strategic...sometimes is...not good Like all factions spamming High level noble troops out of nothing, Battanian Nobles wrecking in range, and that weakness not being that impactfull sometimes (Who needs cavalry in their roster when you can just recruit them from other faction villages...) Also Swadia haves weaknesses, their best troops need a while to train, and Rhodok Spearmen and mountains damage their usefullness, and while yes, they have the best unit, its hard to find in an actual army that it isnt the marshall or King Harlaus
It’s due to mods, let’s face is Bannorlord still doesn’t haven’t any decent total overhaul historical mods, I know some are being made but it could be years, I won’t return until a decent historical overhaul mod is released.
Thats the exact reason why. I can't get into Bannerlord because theres no conversion mods, and I just don't like having to download all these little mods to make little changes to this game. Until Bannerlord gets better mods, I can't see myself playing it like Warband.
@@SisyphusMMA You don't want to download little mods to make little changes you want to download a massive mod to make those little changes. That makes more sense to you why? A smaller number?
@@saltywater5097 What? I’m saying I don’t want to download a lot of mods to make minor changes, I want a large total conversion mod. How did you garner that from what I said?
@@SisyphusMMA That is what you said essentially. You want one large mod that makes bunches of changes all in one instead of a bunch of small mods, even if you could get the same effect from those small mods. Why, the smaller number? It's just downloading more mods, if you can download one you can download 10 and if the effect is the same why not?
I have 4300 hours spend in Warband, just multiplayer. Plus some 1k with 1.011 back in 2009. Played "a bit" too much but it's still one of my favouritve gaming experiences ever. The competitive community in Warband was amazing. Never seen such strong and healthy rivalry as in Warband tournaments.
Warband is still going after years passed because a lot of people likes the mods and the gameplay. Another reason was early on is the money and warband requires a cheaper pc so most players had no option to choose bannerlord. Also in a lot of ways bannerlord is still the same or less than warband. Of course got features and additions what is nice and good to see improving but my pc overheats itself if I play bannerlord.
also when you have a really good pc. Warband looks gorgeous on 4k and 300+ fps. Its there are some outdate aspects but honestly its so nice. I wish we could've stayed in DirectX 9-11 era where the demand for hardware is not that much and its still gorgeous
As Someone said sometime "Bannerlord is great in where Warband was already great at, improving it, while the things they add is not as good, and sometimes bad. And all the charm and heart the characters and the world had are gone"
Have both games and i like both! But in some ways Warband is still better to me, specially when it comes to a few things regarding multiplayer! And it's quite nice to see the community isn't letting the game die!
I played a moded Warband and bought Bannerlord and forgot about it. Went in and sunk multiple weekends on a campaign before getting confused on why my companions have no personal quest, why the dialogue between NPCs are so lacking, why Is there a lack of AI party management. Then I realized... it was the wrong game.
You can also easily tweak Warband using Morghs M&B editor to alter any party size enemy item values anything and it's a breeze to use. It's helpful for making the early game grind of raising a bigger party easier by making looter parties etc more frequent and bigger.
I actually have the OPPOSITE opinion. I find bannerlord multiplayer to be way better than warband's, but get bored of the bannerlord campaign extremely quickly. Singleplayer just doesn't feel the same
If warband had a practical way of creating your own dynasty, be able to play as your heir and kill other lords (and fight their descendants) I would still be playing warband
Bannerlord is improving the gameplay of warband by killing it's soul. The Characters are boring, the dialogue options are little, and companions are a joke compared to the original ones Also, and maybe is just me, but something about the new combat feels...bad, idk. I prefer Warband's simple yet effective combat system, even if it was easier and more "dumb"
Bannerlord multiplayer is just dogshit. Hands down. slowmotion combat, they added a bunch of new gimmicky mechanics so instead of combat being about skill and timing, now its just a 8-10 part rockpaper scissor instead of 4 part rock paper scissor. Online armor choices are "hey you want this weapon? well you gotta wear this bs armor aswell". Where is the good old buy your armor, pick your weapon and give us some bloody fast response times. You let go of a swing in bannerlord and you got enough time to cook dinner before the arm starts moving. Its trash.
Beautiful. I love warband and i still play the multiplayer. Its simple archady like and the combat is awsome. As someone else said bannerlord is dark clunky and kinda boring....
Bannerlord has alot of new features but almost all of them are shallow, and poorly implemented. The campaign map of bannerlord is boring imo, its a sea of empire culture with a tiny ring of different cultures around it.
i fuckin hate how bannerlord is shitty simple, like warband is so simple too, but its deep feudal anarchy time setting and its age allows it to not have like roads, to not have deep subordination system that will be diferent in diferent fractions, and such other things. But bannerlord is fucking new, and it set in time that is few yrs after collaps of 500yrs empire, so why there arent roads? why are imperial and fukin khuzaite or sturgian cities have same infrastructure level? why we can only take a vassal oath from king by the same way in all cultures? what the fuck
Lol bullshit. It's great, no huge overhauls pop up solely because game is still being updated with risk of major code changes, nobody is going to develop anything big for a game that's still in progress....
@@MegaSupernowawell according the devs the game is fully released even if they don't act like it. The game is certainly not bad but after ten years of development the only thing they have to show for it is the graphics. This is not to say warband is perfect and has no flaws but the expectations were a lot lower. Not to mention warband was developed by like 3 people while Bannerlord had a whole team and yet the game is still so shallow. The whole early access was almost entirely focused on bug fixes and the like as opposed to actual content additions.
banner lord is trash if you compare it with warband, warband has better gameplay, more quest, start rebelion, you can unite almost entire kingdom and support other faction to create huge chaos. etc.
Got into this game last few weeks just for three of my saves to be deleted by deleting previous unused saves I’m over this game on console this game is complete garbage
If we are talking vanilla game lets be honest bannerlord is better. Mods shouldnt be compared as bannerlord is a new game, people havent had the time to mod yet. I wont pretend like bannerlord is perfect, i HATE the map and how lazy the factions feel (half of the factions are empire) and also the units, especially the Vlandian ones, look really ugly. Bannerlord also takes place in the early medieval ages which imo is less interesting than the high middle ages setting that warband has.
i miss social bounds building in warband i can make a party and speak about pivotal topics with my nobles and make a good political choose(for example support the opinon of clans which i neeed have friendly) bannerlord is total trash.
I feel like bannerlord is missing dialogue options with nobles and people in general. No longer can we ask nobles to follow our party, no longer can we ask them where they last saw someone, now you just look up that persons name on the encyclopedia.
Yep. The soul is gone. The only thing I need to interact with people with is warfare. There needs to be a warband mod for bannerlord
idiot
There's nothing scarier than a naked man on a deathmatch server armed with nothing but a greatsword/torch.
When I bought Bannerlords at release I immediately noticed the oversimplified and boring UI and Hud. Theres just no charm to be found here. I know it sounds crazy but I still like Warband more for that reason alone
The main thing with warband is the base game armor can be op and u can just wreck everything banner lord more strategic and the factions have a lot more weakness swadia op run down everything super fun
The Armor is not that op...you still need to pay a big ammount for the best ones, and unless you fight a deserter party of Swadian Knights there is no way to get it (Unless you get it from your start)
And while yes, bannerlord focuses a lot in strategic...sometimes is...not good
Like all factions spamming High level noble troops out of nothing, Battanian Nobles wrecking in range, and that weakness not being that impactfull sometimes (Who needs cavalry in their roster when you can just recruit them from other faction villages...)
Also Swadia haves weaknesses, their best troops need a while to train, and Rhodok Spearmen and mountains damage their usefullness, and while yes, they have the best unit, its hard to find in an actual army that it isnt the marshall or King Harlaus
I guess we're just going to pretend that Horse Archer Spam isn't the Bannerlord Meta?
It’s due to mods, let’s face is Bannorlord still doesn’t haven’t any decent total overhaul historical mods, I know some are being made but it could be years, I won’t return until a decent historical overhaul mod is released.
Thats the exact reason why. I can't get into Bannerlord because theres no conversion mods, and I just don't like having to download all these little mods to make little changes to this game. Until Bannerlord gets better mods, I can't see myself playing it like Warband.
@@SisyphusMMA You don't want to download little mods to make little changes you want to download a massive mod to make those little changes.
That makes more sense to you why? A smaller number?
@@saltywater5097 What? I’m saying I don’t want to download a lot of mods to make minor changes, I want a large total conversion mod. How did you garner that from what I said?
@@SisyphusMMA That is what you said essentially. You want one large mod that makes bunches of changes all in one instead of a bunch of small mods, even if you could get the same effect from those small mods.
Why, the smaller number?
It's just downloading more mods, if you can download one you can download 10 and if the effect is the same why not?
Have a Roman Overhaul now, with the help of a couple other mods you can have a accurate map too.
Warband is the definition of less is more, while Bannerlord is a mess of too much.
Too much is fine but you've got to do something with it, TW just gave us a bunch of stuff without putting in much substance.
I have 4300 hours spend in Warband, just multiplayer. Plus some 1k with 1.011 back in 2009. Played "a bit" too much but it's still one of my favouritve gaming experiences ever. The competitive community in Warband was amazing. Never seen such strong and healthy rivalry as in Warband tournaments.
Warband is still going after years passed because a lot of people likes the mods and the gameplay. Another reason was early on is the money and warband requires a cheaper pc so most players had no option to choose bannerlord. Also in a lot of ways bannerlord is still the same or less than warband. Of course got features and additions what is nice and good to see improving but my pc overheats itself if I play bannerlord.
also when you have a really good pc. Warband looks gorgeous on 4k and 300+ fps. Its there are some outdate aspects but honestly its so nice. I wish we could've stayed in DirectX 9-11 era where the demand for hardware is not that much and its still gorgeous
As Someone said sometime
"Bannerlord is great in where Warband was already great at, improving it, while the things they add is not as good, and sometimes bad. And all the charm and heart the characters and the world had are gone"
Have both games and i like both! But in some ways Warband is still better to me, specially when it comes to a few things regarding multiplayer! And it's quite nice to see the community isn't letting the game die!
I agree, warband is well optimized. Who needs a "realistic" graphic for a god damn GAME. just simple graphic and a good gameplay is enough
There is no game like these two. My pc is too weak for Bannerlord tho, so only Warband for me. What an amazing game! :)
I played a moded Warband and bought Bannerlord and forgot about it.
Went in and sunk multiple weekends on a campaign before getting confused on why my companions have no personal quest, why the dialogue between NPCs are so lacking, why Is there a lack of AI party management.
Then I realized... it was the wrong game.
Remember in Warband multiplayer the uglier the opponent the more fatal.
You can also easily tweak Warband using Morghs M&B editor to alter any party size enemy item values anything and it's a breeze to use. It's helpful for making the early game grind of raising a bigger party easier by making looter parties etc more frequent and bigger.
Warband simply feels better? Idk I have never been able to get past how bannerlord just feels worse to control.
In warband you can chamber block consistently. In bannerlord chambers happen only unintented when you and/or your enemy time attacks poorly
I swear that this gamemode existed in Warband for years and years now and not bc of Bannerlord, but very nostalgic feelgood video regardless
I know it existed for Napoleonic Wars but I don't remember if it existed for vanilla
Given how the updates destabilize mods it shouldn't suprise anyone if anything the updates are meaningless without additions to the core gameplay
I actually have the OPPOSITE opinion. I find bannerlord multiplayer to be way better than warband's, but get bored of the bannerlord campaign extremely quickly. Singleplayer just doesn't feel the same
No better Mount & Blade experience than Adventure in the East for Warband
If warband had a practical way of creating your own dynasty, be able to play as your heir and kill other lords (and fight their descendants) I would still be playing warband
There is an awesome captain battle mod called battleground, great potential, definitely worth it when there is few players
Bannerlord is improving the gameplay of warband by killing it's soul. The Characters are boring, the dialogue options are little, and companions are a joke compared to the original ones
Also, and maybe is just me, but something about the new combat feels...bad, idk. I prefer Warband's simple yet effective combat system, even if it was easier and more "dumb"
Bannerlord colours are so dark, less fun
Warband has much much better combat. Bannerlord Multiplayer just sucks.
What's this mod called
Captains mode in warband, amazing. Is there a captains survival mode in warband?
yes
I played 700 hours warband most in multiplayer, one of my best online experiences in all of gaming at its peak IMO
Bannerlord multiplayer is just dogshit. Hands down. slowmotion combat, they added a bunch of new gimmicky mechanics so instead of combat being about skill and timing, now its just a 8-10 part rockpaper scissor instead of 4 part rock paper scissor.
Online armor choices are "hey you want this weapon? well you gotta wear this bs armor aswell".
Where is the good old buy your armor, pick your weapon and give us some bloody fast response times. You let go of a swing in bannerlord and you got enough time to cook dinner before the arm starts moving. Its trash.
yeah i agree
Warband has superior multiplayer compared to Bannerlord!
Warbands combat is undoubtedly better and I feel like the missiles were done better there too
Funny you upload this because I just bought it a few days ago and I love it better than Bannerlord.
Beautiful. I love warband and i still play the multiplayer. Its simple archady like and the combat is awsome. As someone else said bannerlord is dark clunky and kinda boring....
Resonant come on man, vanilla warband is not even nearly superior to vanilla bannerlord
Bannerlord has alot of new features but almost all of them are shallow, and poorly implemented. The campaign map of bannerlord is boring imo, its a sea of empire culture with a tiny ring of different cultures around it.
warband beats bannerlord at anything except graphics and single player
lol sure @@tillicumbeach638
Warband has a superior combat system
i fuckin hate how bannerlord is shitty simple, like warband is so simple too, but its deep feudal anarchy time setting and its age allows it to not have like roads, to not have deep subordination system that will be diferent in diferent fractions, and such other things. But bannerlord is fucking new, and it set in time that is few yrs after collaps of 500yrs empire, so why there arent roads? why are imperial and fukin khuzaite or sturgian cities have same infrastructure level? why we can only take a vassal oath from king by the same way in all cultures? what the fuck
What game mode is this
mount and blade warband
Yay well warband has had a long time to last so people still love warband better
Yeah bannerlord modding is crap. They completely lied to us
Lol bullshit. It's great, no huge overhauls pop up solely because game is still being updated with risk of major code changes, nobody is going to develop anything big for a game that's still in progress....
@@MegaSupernowawell according the devs the game is fully released even if they don't act like it. The game is certainly not bad but after ten years of development the only thing they have to show for it is the graphics. This is not to say warband is perfect and has no flaws but the expectations were a lot lower. Not to mention warband was developed by like 3 people while Bannerlord had a whole team and yet the game is still so shallow. The whole early access was almost entirely focused on bug fixes and the like as opposed to actual content additions.
The voting system in bannerlord is a joke
banner lord is trash if you compare it with warband, warband has better gameplay, more quest, start rebelion, you can unite almost entire kingdom and support other faction to create huge chaos. etc.
Got into this game last few weeks just for three of my saves to be deleted by deleting previous unused saves I’m over this game on console this game is complete garbage
yes
If we are talking vanilla game lets be honest bannerlord is better. Mods shouldnt be compared as bannerlord is a new game, people havent had the time to mod yet. I wont pretend like bannerlord is perfect, i HATE the map and how lazy the factions feel (half of the factions are empire) and also the units, especially the Vlandian ones, look really ugly. Bannerlord also takes place in the early medieval ages which imo is less interesting than the high middle ages setting that warband has.
no i respect your opinoin but i think that the mods and just base vannila is better on warband respect your opion nevertheless though
No it isn't.
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i miss social bounds building in warband i can make a party and speak about pivotal topics with my nobles and make a good political choose(for example support the opinon of clans which i neeed have friendly) bannerlord is total trash.
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