Vasiliy Lomachenko footwork issues???
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I see you found an example in that Teo fight, but the example did come in the round that Loma won in round 2
@@deebofleebo6427 Ain't I put you in timeout during the live? You still at it?
Fam, what are you talking about? The Teo fight is full of examples of every step I was talking about. Did you watch it?
@@musak.4068 Still at what?! Wtf am I doing to anybody?! So if I express an opinion I get timed out?! What kind of pussy azz schit is that I just subscribed last night?! Let me know if that's what your about cuz you timed me out for no reason at all
@@BoxingGems Yeah I just watched the fight like 30 minutes ago then I watched a video on the punch count too. To me there were better examples of Loma's footwork "mistakes" in the Gary Russell fight, not so much in the Teo fight! I'm glad you added the Teo highlights tho, made the video better
It seems to me that whenever Loma uses the L Step followed by the cross step, he’s expecting to be out of range as he does it. But when he’s fighting a taller fighter like Luke Campbell and Pedraza, they were able to take advantage of it the most as their legs are so much longer they could step in quickly by being able to cover so much ground with one quick forward step. Of course the timing has to be on point as well. Another thing is I don’t like how Loma responds to the op disrupting that cross step either. He would sometimes shell up in a high guard without changing angles or trying to reverse step away. He would stand there and take the punishment. This topic is very intriguing. Makes me wanna go back and watch every Loma fight all over again. lol
He can’t change angles in those moments because he’s out of position already. All the op would have to do is wait until he starts that extra shuffle to get back southpaw and Loma is caught on those reverse cross steps.
@@BoxingGems Makes sense. But wouldn’t you say once he got his feet under him after the initial attack that he could pivot or reverse shuffle? It just seemed like once he got attacked out of position, he kinda gave up and chose to just weather the storm so to speak in a lot of those clips. Easier said than done most likely. That’s the funny part about watching boxing. Sometimes people don’t get just how hard it is to do some of things they do. Sometimes I have to remind myself. Just go ask a boxing fan who hasn’t boxed before to throw a check hook and make sure your back foot is planted as the punch is landing. And don’t forget to pivot out. Good luck!!😆. I could never throw a check hook unless it was the simple step back check hook. But the one where you actually had to pivot out as your throwing it??? That shit never felt right!! lol
Depends. On a lot of them he was squared when he got caught or his feet were gathered.
@@BoxingGems Gotcha.
@@TexRock you got to understand and learn the eastern European style to throw the check hook better. Their footwork is different from traditional style
Glitch feet 👨🏼💻🩰 boxing is not Russian ballet 🤣 just hit the reset button.
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He’s Ukrainian not Russian
@@thomasoneil798 you are right 👊
@@thomasoneil798 and it's not even ckose to ballet... But Ok, people have to grab onto something, i guess
@@desanctisapostatanah they just hating
Are you getting a lot of heat bro?
Luke warm Champ, It’s nothing 😂
Film don’t lie! 💪🏾
Not gonna lie the way he sometime falls over his front foot could end up being a disaster for him against tank. Could be Marquez pacquaio all over again. But he does have amazing footwork just shows nobody is perfect
I agree. This is just a technical critique. Absolutely nobody is perfect.
@@BoxingGems just curious, could you find many things like this in Mayweather's game/footwork? Genuine question, no sarcasm or anything behind it
@@CornPopWazABadDude No, not “many” things. But Mayweather has made mistakes obviously. Are they consistent? No. He was a complete fighter and excelled in most styles so his adjustment after making the mistake took away the opponents success
Ur content is so good man I wish u had u deserve ur own channel on espn to talk boxing.
Much love fam
Most of ESPN's boxing audience are super casuals. If they couldn't digest Max Kellerman, Gems will definitely go over their heads. If he critiqued Loma's footwork or questioned Canelo's choice of competition, Stephen A would sprinkle holy water on him pull out a crucifix.
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Great analysis as always gem , its the only downfall to loma being trained in dance before boxing , the reset is the dancers way of keeping the foot rhythm in time , same with the cross over all dance based , which has advantages within the attacking side of the fight as its harder to read and allows for multiple angles within quick spurts , but when defending unless at range can be rather predictable , same with usyk's feint to lead foot closing until outside opponents lead foot , very predictable
Let me find out Shaun’s a dancer! 😂💪🏾 Thanks fam.
@@BoxingGems one has been known to throw a few shapes on special occasions 🤣
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And yet... Loma has one of the best +/- of all time...
@@CornPopWazABadDude what do you mean ? +/- in terms of what ?
We need a Tim Bradley flaws breakdown 😂😂😂
Tim says no 🤣
Been saying this since the Teofimo fight but was called A hater lol. Thanks for putting it All together Gems. He could use those cross steps to create those slick angles when attacking but when he's been timed or being pressured to fight backwards it's a huge problem
Great video. My son has been watching your vids and he is a huge Loma fan. Particularly his coaches are big on Loma and Usyk. I will be watching this one with him. Let's face it, nobody in Boxing is flawless. Every style has an opportunity for an opponent.
Tim knows what it is, and who owns the Infinity #BoxingGemstones! Keep up the phenomenal work ethic 👑
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@@AlmightyAnt300 Tim rarely says dumb and bias things unless he's hating on PBC. Aside from that he's pretty knowledgeable and accurate.
Another great break down . I love how you bring to light the foot work terminology . I got homework to do .... The best in the business #BoxingGems💠"Pops"#truschoolsports 🥊🥊
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I always wondered how guys fall for his pivot move. It’s basic fundamentals to NOT turn on a dime when a guy jumps or pivots around you. All you have to do is occupy the space he just left or step away. Guys turn right into a shot when he does his “matrix pivot” move.
How Loma attacks angles is beautiful tho.
Wow, you should tell the 413 boxers that got dominated by him to do that.
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Nah, I’ll tell salido and Teo to spread the word.
@@selfmade8884 lmao so you're saying Salido outboxed Loma? Teo got his azz whooped by Loma my son, his head was getting bounced around like a bobblehead doll for 6 straight rounds, and Teo couldn't even put 2 punches together for almost the entire fight.
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I knew you where one of “those guys”. You worship Loma and can’t deal with the fact that he lost. You’re still making excuses all these years later. Lmao!!!!!!
It must suck to have to live vicariously through another man. Got the nerve to call me son. Loma must be your dad the way you’re making excuses for him.
Hey Boxing Gems. I had a bit of time to think about this. I was-at first-confused by the terminology because of certain terms like “rhythm stepping,” which I thought meant “pendulum stepping.” But now I see. Barry Robinson 😁 I might make a video response to some of these issues. We’ll see. I’ll let you know if I do. I can better explain an alternate point of view. Talk to you later my man 👊🥊
It’s all good fam
Really nice take! I think along with us, Timothy Bradley is learning a lot. :)
Loma makes those stepping patterns work eventually by variating them as the fight progresses but that takes time that he doesn't always have. I think he'd be happier if they had 15 rounders. Lol He has already given us some great fights but he seems to be fighting at his upper limit in the lightweight division.
Thanks.
I see Loma get caught in every fight but his pressure, feints and footwork all combine to disable his opponents in the long run. Can't wait to see him back. Hopefully these guys fight each other.
Hej man, can you do a video about Navarrete who we can often see do these mistakes but still dominates his weight divison
One thing tho, appart from the Pedraza fight and one example from the Campbell fight, every bits were from at most the 4th round. For someone who takes his time to get on the rythm of his opponent like Loma, maybe it's simply a result of him being in a low energy state in those moments.
For example cross stepping backward to take the oompf out of the punches in the Lopez fight, rythm steps to reset with Rigo early and study his entries. I don't really know why Pedraza had more examples, i'd need to rewatch the fight.
Yet, Loma still has one of the best +/- of all time while being an offensive fighter vs defense first...
His dad is probably hard on him getting hit so makes the effort to work it hard
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350 fights 1 defeat 2 Olympic gold medals yeh he needs to sort his foot work out for sure
The video had nothing to do with telling Loma what he “NEEDS” to do. He’s done great with the technical footwork issues he has. This video is pointing out what he “IS” doing. No need for spin. This is a boxing education channel for fans.
loma is overrated imo. people often put him in the same sentence as haney YET haney is undisputed with all the belts and loma isn't even a champion. smh.
That’s been the theme on ESPN for a minute. Loma definitely shouldn’t be on their pound for pound list. So in that sense, Loma is overrated. But the guy can fight his ass off.
@@BoxingGems yeah he is a very very good fighter BUT people often want to forget some crucial key points.
he has many disavantages compared to haney :
1 footwork as shown here
2 chin (linares dropped loma while only whobbled haney)
3 reach and size
4 jab. haney have the best jab in the business today.
they talk as if haney have already lost to loma while i think the opposite minus the fact that loma can prove me wrong.
So the fact that the only reason there's even an undisputed at lightweight is because Loma collected all the belts by himself, cuz Haney and all the other so called "4 kings" were literally fighting nobodies! The only reason Haney even has a belt is cuz Loma gave him one in his pursuit to become undisputed. Maybe over ranked, but overrated is just not true at all
Absolutely brilliant video. So much is made of Loma’s footwork and how he developed it when his dad took him out of boxing and put him in dancing for a few years. His footwork is one of the best in boxing but damn, you put a microscope on it and showed all of its fallacies
Thanks fam. Most fighters have some of the same issues but Loma’s preferred style is based on moving forward so when opponents take advantage of the footwork issues, he’s unable to set his feet and has to keep retreating and resetting. He eventually “sells out” and defaults to midrange 50/50’s where he is still good but obviously far more vulnerable. Great fighter but everyone has flaws and weaknesses.
Loma won that second round with Teo tho. At one point in the second he did the matador move and made Teo miss him completely with a body jab, just by sliding to the right. I mean, if his footwork was a problem in the Teo fight, Loma wouldn't have been able to land those seemingly hundreds of combinations from rounds 7-12
No way on gods green earth did Loma win that second round. Teo controlled the center ring. Revisionist history. But thabjs for highlighting thay Lomas injury was BS since, as you said he threw seemingly "hundreds" of combinations in the 3rd act of the fight. So much for a shoulder injury 😂
This isn’t about winning rounds. You’re trying to protect a fighter, I’m trying to reach fans what’s happening in the ring. If you are trying to say the rhythm step or cross step isn’t a problem despite the video evidence then do that. If not, we aren’t talking about the same thing.
@@mikeharris503 Just watched the fight, Loma outlanded Teo in round 2! Yeah I don't know what Loma was doing or if he was really injured. But I did see a reaction video on the way Loma trains like 2 years ago and the physical therapist was talking about this kettle bell workout Loma does that is notorious for injuring shoulders! But I'm not gonna pretend Teo was whooping Loma's azz... But since you brought it up, he did say his shoulder hurt so he saved it by not throwing punches in case it went the distance.
@@BoxingGems no I'm not saying that, I've heard the comments about Loma's footwork from Bradley in that Linares fight... All I'm saying is those mistakes are not that big a deal for him.... Just like what you said about Roy Jones in the live yesterday
@@deebofleebo6427 they are a big deal. He lost to Teo BECAUSE of those highlighted mistakes. He was floored by linares BECAUSE of those highlighted mistakes. He lost to Salido for the SAME REASONs which is even crazier. So it obviously is a big deal. Its been his downfall on multiple occasions. Hes expected to fight Ortiz, Haney, Shakur etc. These are fighters unlike a small old rigo or a sloppy commey who will be able to take advantage of said footwork mishaps.
@boxing gems who are your top 5 active fighters for footwork? I realized I do the same rhythm step and gotta change that habit
Very interesting analysis, however once you have mastered the fundamentals you can break them and improvise.
Apply the same analysis to Ali or Roy Jones for example and you will see a lot of “footwork issues”.
That would be a statement if Loma wasn’t getting punched or taking a loss because of the footwork.
@@BoxingGems They all got punched and took losses. I’ll leave the analysis up to you…maybe their footwork had something to do with it.
Interesting fact, fighters with technically sound footwork also take punches and lose fights 🤔
Do fighters with technically sound footwork take punches and lose fights because of their footwork? It’s likely that they take punches and lose fights for other reasons right? It’s just not a good take fam. It’s hard to dig out of that initial logic.
@@BoxingGems I agree 100% with that statement, however you could say the same thing for fighters w/o technically sound footwork.
Ali and RJJ had pretty amazing careers w/o having technically sound footwork; maybe some of the punches and loses they took had nothing to do with it. And maybe some of the wins are punches the landed were because of it.
It’s only a mistake if it doesn’t work.
Yea, I feel you, but you can’t say that when you’re teaching fam.
Interesting breakdown. I’m curious though as the majority of the clips you highlighted were punches either blocked or missed due to his head and body movement. I guess the point I’m trying to make is though in conventional boxing fundamentals most individuals don’t have the type of defense he does when making these footwork mistakes as you say. I’m am interested in seeing how this translate in future fights for him though. Thanks for the analysis.
Most fighters don’t have a system to exploit the flaws yet. Teo did.
Always great work.
Thanks fam
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I always thought Loma is the offensive version of the matrix style while usyk is the defensive version..Loma punch accuracy is off the charts while he is still a volume/pressure fighter..usyk is less precise tho as this was seen in the second Joshua fight.
I don't know why, when Loma is resetting or cross stepping . Why boxers aren't attacking Loma's body more. Loma only shells up into a high guard . Loma is left out of position to throw any good counters.
Stab jab does wonders!
big picture, I think Loma utilizes footwork activity to circle opponents into a more defensive posture. it's almost like an illusion but in practice, it's like a herding dog herding an animal into a particular direction he wants it to go. Loma is winning the mental matrix game and controlling the opponent. Gems is giving us the Red pill exposing the fundamental design flaws of the matrix. only then can boxers know when and where to attack. unfortunately, majority of the world is on the blue pill believing in this godly hi-tech fantasy.
Well put. A lot of Loma’s game is confusion.
Its simple. Most if not all His pro opponents took dives.
I just don’t get how ppl see this and try to give fundamental reasons when fundamentally this is wrong.
Easy fam. Either they don’t know fundamentals or they’re in love with the fighter. They think his accolades make up for the actual film.
I like like Loma but I can see what you're saying about resetting and everything it takes you an extra second. Great breakdown you're correct 100%. He's no matrix very talented no matrix
Don’t get me wrong, there are things special about Loma’s footwork. This is just from a technical standpoint. Nobody really moves like Lomachenko. The angles he achieves are amazing.
@@BoxingGems Russians used to go to Cuba show us Boxing. I left Cuba when I was 10. Is those little mistakes when he gets caught. I do like him as a fighter but I just didn't like that he gave him about like that for free.
I feel you
@@JoseDiaz-yl9sh If he made a video of all the brilliant things Loma did it would easily be an hour long
@@deebofleebo6427 I'm not blind I just said I like the way he fights. I just got out of work Dammm . You guys take this to the next level. Loma has good for work but he's no top-level fighter
Congrats on the compliment from Tim Bradley! Another reason to subscribe to you Patreon! I think Loma gets away with this because of his speed advantages over most opponents, but as he slows down with age It could become more of a problem. Although with his background in Dance and Martial Arts training cross stepping is common, many say you can cover more distance using a cross step as well? Most boxing trainers hate it. I guess if you can make it work. Loma also uses a lot of constant movement and energy, especially against bigger guys seems he has to work very hard! Lots of feints and half positions, do you think he sometimes over does it and wastes/uses unnecessary energy, Like that rhythm step?
Funny thing is fundementally rigo was more sound always balance and everything with his footwork. Loma was more free flowy breaking the rules of footwork and yet he schooled him and makes his opponents miss. But yes I agree. A lot of this gets him in trouble.
In the Lopez fight he blocks most punches but bc he’s not balanced it looked like he was getting tagged since he was getting pushed back.
i wonder if Loma would throw off opponents if he had added a retreat jab/cross or any viable throw away attack as he Rythm stepped, L stepped away/angling off when backing up would this not filled the gap in his defense?
Nah, it’s the motion of the reset where he is really most vulnerable. Bringing the front foot forward into stance and subsequently being front foot heavy after it lands. A jab would have no power at all thrown from that position. Also Remember, it’s an unconscious habit as well. Planning to protect the rhythm step would make it conscious however effective or ineffective it may be.
@@BoxingGems hmm see the idea would be to make the rythm step seem dangerous when it isn't similar to feint with no attack behind it, and although it can be countered it will at least stop him from needing to reset so often but hey i feel with a guy with 400+ fights its probz too late to unlearn this stuff 😅
I've always noticed something off and a lil repetitive about his footwork but couldn't put my finger on what specifically till now. But the fact caught all this and literally no one else did jus shows how big brain you are 😂👌🏽
I wouldn’t say no one else did. I just haven’t seen this type of vid on Loma specifically. I’ll take the compliment tho Fam. Thanks
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Loma and Pacman are really anomalies where they make their flawed footwork work time after time.
Great video. Looking forward to watching for these issues in Loma's fights. Would a Dempsey step into a right hook (Hagler style) work for an orthodox fighter when Loma L steps?
It would have to be very well timed. If Loma is L stepping everytime he breaks his base the you would have to break his base then time the step right after.
@@BoxingGems - thank you for your response.
as always amazing works
Thanks fam
🤔 instead off that lazy cross step I think Loma should back out into a full blown triangle step if he wants to reset
Or just reverse step.
@@BoxingGems yeah that too either way he probably won't fix it but can someone truly exploit it
Yeh film don't lie , at no point did one solid punch land on Loma , lomachenko always is the smaller fighter at lightweight even rigo has a longer wing span than Loma , he not trying to escape , he is trying to stay in the pocket make you miss so he can counter and it works for him and makes for exciting fights because he never leaves the pocket for the most part
So is it like Loma moves more the he needs to that leaves his opponents opportunities to catch him?
The steps talked about in the video that Loma takes are boxing “no no’s”. His opponents have caught him making those technical mistakes.
Excellent video
Thanks fam
No you didn't, YOU🤔🤨☝️= 👎......the pivot video!?! NO ,YOU ,DIDN'T!!🤯
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be this as it may he still has better footwork and movement than lots of guys...add that to various othe things he does and he becomens a headache
Sorry but I disagree! if you pull your front foot back first it immediately creates an anchor point that you can push back off and leap backwards creating an extra yard of safe space. It's a tactic, not a flaw!. I learned this when switching from traditional karate to freestyle kickboxing. It's probably the best footwork you can use against a very aggressive opponent!
“Unconscious habit”, not a measured step to evade. Clearly Loma wasn’t using it as an anchor to reverse step. This ain’t karate.
@@BoxingGems I know it ain't karate. But Loma had wrestling training and dance training he was also national level at Ice Hockey. Maybe that's why he's a more complete boxer than most. The more variation of sports builds a better foundation for a boxer! Sure Klitscho was a world champion kickboxer before he started boxing.
Salido didn't beat Loma and Teofimo got very lucky with Loma being injured. There's still no blue print to beating lomachenko. Loma beats Haney, no problem 😊 👌
@@lucannewland1187 drop your ego and learn about boxing fam
@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba 🤣 I boxed for near 30 years ffs, I'm a fan 40 years. Are you going on like that cuz u is black?
@Lucan Newland sorry but if you're relying on a particular pattern, it leaves you vulnerable. in the video, Loma explains not to pivot due to balance and shows off a very poor pivot, demonstrating weak athleticism. Granted, Loma is a more offensive fighter and could be showing where his opponents (lack athleticism) are weak. But at the same time, know yourself to know others.
There is a blueprint on how to beat Loma; I had already bet heavy on Teo to beat Loma and won! Teo's no weak athlete. Simple and plain.
When you are so evolved you are allowed to make mistakes for example
Bro just provided the cheat codes for the matrix
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I saw these issues in Lopez' fight especially, people take it away from Lopez calling it a lucky win or bring up Loma's "injury" (ppl with injury dont fight like he did in rounds 10-12). That's why big framed Haney with active movement has a great possibility of upsetting Loma's rhythm and the fighting style that Vasyl is used to. Moreover, Haney's lead hand control (same as Lopez did in r1-r8) is gonna take away Loma's pawing/probing which is usually followed by an outside step and taking dominant angle.
I really want to see them both winning in Autumn followed by a fight being made somewhere in 2023.
Damn! Shoutout from Tim Bradly!
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Beautiful surgical dissection of the sweet science
Thanks fam
I always said that Loma footwork is overatted.
You’re talking about a two time Olympic gold medalist to have footwork issues? Come on man😒 Just look at your own career in boxing before you open your mouth to speak about him.
Now you almost just straight up sound like Barry lol. He said similar shit about Klitschko 15 years ago and we all made fun of him for it. Yeah, all you have to do is time Klitschkos jabs and pendulum step and you'll win! Super easy. But then Barry tries to sell you his top secret Rhythm Step guide so you can have the secret special knowledge that only he has to one day beat these simple bouncing ballerinas, so I'll give you props for not going that far. The reality is in all these clips Loma got punched a few times with glancing shots, so clearly what he's doing is working, even if we all know crossing your feet, bringing your feet together etc are "wrong". Also, Lomas explanation of his check step and the movements you highlighted were completely different. He was talking about changing angles and directions with side steps and you showed him in fights moving straight backwards... And fair enough, maybe he tried to implement it and failed but the same can be said for anyone trying to throw a check hook or cut an angle too. It's not gonna work every time. Like I said in the last video, the Soviet style of boxing is completely different than American/European. A check step is one of the fundamental movements you learn early on in that style, at the same level as pivoting, so if you think that's weird or wrong then you'll always be biased against it. Which is fine. It's almost like arguing about a vertical vs horizontal fist when throwing a hook or bouncing in a rhythm vs being flat-footed or fighting over the front foot vs the back foot... There's pros and cons to all of them and if you learned one way coming up you usually think the other way is wrong. Regardless, great video and respect to your attention to detail, as always. I'd much rather have a fun debate and disagree about some things than watch some sterilized cookie cutter puff piece talking about shit everyone has known about for years. 👍👍👍
Gross wall of text, my bad. Just love talking boxing
It’s all love fam we are just talking boxing. I think you missed my point tho. I’m definitely not promising wins out here 😂. That’s ridiculous. I’m pointing out what Loma is doing and how it can be or has been exploited.
A lot of fighters use the check step as an alternative to the pivot. I’ve talked about it or pointed it out in a few videos. That wasn’t the issue. But you don’t see them cross stepping into it.
@@BoxingGems if I misunderstood your position, my bad. I said in the last video I agree with your assessment of his flaws, I only disagree that they actually matter... If that makes sense lol
I'll put it this way and just leave it as an "agree to disagree" thing: Ali crossed his feet all the time. He also couldn't move to the right, like at all. RJJ boxed with his hands down constantly and lunged in with punches multiple times a round. Prince Naseem spazzed out like an ADHD kid on cocaine. Joe Louis might have had the slowest feet in boxing. Foreman moved like Frankenstein and Pacquiao did almost everything "wrong". But they all made it work for them in their own style using their own natural talents and practiced techniques. Ken Norton took advantage of Ali's inability to move right and punished him with right hands all night. Pacquiao got caught coming in with his hands down by Marquez. Foreman gassed out against Ali and couldn't keep up. If one day Loma gets demolished because he resets his feet, I'll be the first to come in here and eat crow
Yea I get it. It’s all good until they get rocked. But when they do, I’m going to say that specific flaw got them rocked. That’s what I’m doing here.
Can you do c.been vs banks
I am right now
Show me a boxing move and i will show its limitations and weaknesses, i can show people getting koed in the high guard or throwing the hook, doesnt mean that much.
they are better moves than the rythm step of course though.
The rythm step is great for probing, breaking rythm, feints, but it has vulnerabilities. Like resetting, or getting caught between the steps, all these barry robinson tier cherry pickings dont mean anything, u can create hours of footage of how bivol was able to get people to react to his steps, but no one would care
No fundamentals? No sound logic behind fundamentals? No sound logic behind keeping your base as much as possible?
Best practices have been figured out a long time ago. There is a counter for every movement however some are far riskier than others.
@@BoxingGems Best practises werent figured out a long time ago if it was all world champions we would see practice one style of fighting, i agree with your trade off analogy though, for some people the rythm step sometimes worth it for the reasons i mentioned above.
Fundamentals are best practices. Definitely figured out a long time ago. You seem like you know enough to know that fundamentals can be used for different styles.
@@BoxingGems I agree but are "fundamentals" really set in stone? Thats what makes boxing great that even fundementals can be executed in hundreds of different styles, think about the left hook, Ryan Garcia,Roy Jones, Golovkin all different shapes of left hook created for their style of fighting, Now are you really gonna tell Garcia for example that "hey you are winding that left hook and you are slapping it" when he koed like 6 people with it, of course you would be right by saying that but the whole story is different, the same with footwork and rythm step, it gets overlooked how many times loma makes his opponent react to his rythm step, i would say its more like a neutral move, unlike Barry Robinson acting like its the same as punching with your chin up or something. I agree that his way of retreating is kind of non-functioning, he gets out of position to counter ,and just goes back in a straight line , but to his defense in these times he usually just raises the high guard and blocks some punches, or lets some in, i wouldnt say its only footworks fault if you are in a high guard and you step back, and a shot lands, i mean him putting his hands up shows that he knew he was in range still, but if you are using the high guard a lot some shots gonna creep through.
We can agree to disagree for now but it would be dope to talk about it on a live stream. Feel free to join the panel. I’m usually on Saturday during fights and sometimes Friday.
Rigondeaux quitting was a shock and a shame! Loma couldn't even touch him! I would have liked to see it all play out fully, but aah well. ✊🏿🥊
He wasn’t exactly winning rounds and he had a point taken if I remember correctly but yea, there wasn’t a lot happening in that fight.
@@BoxingGems yeah, but he knew that losing meant he lost his belts at 126 (I think) too! He was in a corner and it was insanely unfair, has that ever been done to a non-black boxer? I wanted him to fight out of that corner and believed he could. Again, aah well, luck and respect to all who step through the ropes and thanks for the content! ✊🏿🥊
@@AlmightyAnt300 lol, watch it again. ✊🏿🥊
Are tou guys serious, Loma DID touch rigo bunch of times, number 2 Rigo landed like 4 punches in 6 rounds maximum, try and watch the fight again, im avtually shocked that you genually believe loma didnt touch rigo
when I read comments like this, I scratch my head wondering if anybody watches boxing or just highlights
That lead leg looking like a broken spray bottle trigger🥴😂
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This is too high level of a boxing for me to understand, but great video
Thanks fam
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That's why Loma is so damn special, je can do all those things and get away with it because of the rare talent..Have you ever seem Loma in any trouble ever besides getting cocky and Linares dropped him but Ooma wasn't even on the ground for a split second..It works for him, and I love watching it.. Loma will have all the belts by 2023..Period
Doubt it. Let’s put some money on it I’ll take yo shi
I think yer clutching at straws here.
You havent shown one example of him being punished or exposed. All the clips you are showing are of fights he took no significant damage in, won comfortably if he didn't end em early !
Theres many reasons a fighter will do this or that & I kno you are aware of that coz Ive seen you mention em in other vids.
If Loma isnt moving outa range my guess is, based on ACTUAL RESULTS, is that hes not trying to move outa range, hes moving to read something or set something else up, or hes moving just enough to give the opponent an opportunity to gamble on Lomachenkos terms.
I agree with you that he is displaying bad habits, habits a lesser fighter would get exposed on but Roy Jones made a career outa having bad habits, so did Pernell Whitacker. Ali had bad habits, Larry Holmes & Tommy Hearns carried their left too low but somehow still had great jabs & Willie Pep brought his feet together all the time.
Fighters are crafty, unless they are getting punished for something the chances are they're trying to lure or sucker an opponent by doing this, that or the other, or they're doing something not by the book to save energy for the later rounds.
Its not what they do, its the way that they do it & WHEN they do it.
As for the Lopez fight, what I seen was a guy who for one reason or another was boxing like he was paid to only show up for the 2nd half of the fight n carry the guy for the first 6 rds.
#RealTalk
Plenty of examples of Loma getting hit for breaking his base in these vids.
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Getting touched, because he drew a reaction from a guy he went on to COMFORTABLY beat, if not comfortably FINISH.
If hes getting "Hit" in those clips then Floyd Mayweather made a career outa getting hit by timidly shelling up & impersonating a harmless punchbag for 12 rds like he did vs Oscar & Manny.
Yer disrespecting the mans talent & his level of accomplishment, therefore yer disrespecting the sport & all its great champions.
Who has decked him or even rocked him other than Linares ?
If you showed the Linares clip I woulda kept my mouth shut 😁
Yer clutching at straws coz for some reason you dont like Loma.
Everything was thoroughly explained in a series of vids.
ruclips.net/video/c_4jmxoGGyw/видео.html
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Ive followed yer link & watched yer video & theres nothing extra in it. Im not saying its bad its just the same.
You are talking about a guy with 2 x Olympic Golds & 3 World Titles inside 12 rights like hes a novice or a bum who keeps on getting KOd for the same reasons.
Looks like yer reaching, clutching at straws in desperation because for some reason nothing to do with sport you dont like him.
Yer showing Bivol bouncing between punches like a novice with his lead hand low & his legs wider apart than a $5 hooker & generating about as much power as her because of it, but yer holding him up as an example of excellence even though he done nothing more than touch up a middleweight (Canelo) who is either too injured to run in training n make his natural weight or is too complacent.
You showed Tank Davis falling in behind his left hand n squaring up like Calzaghe did & got punished for against both Roy Jones & Hopkins.
You showed Wilder getting tripped as though its an example of Lomachenko doing something wrong & once again you showed clips of him getting hit on his guard on his own terms, taking zero damage while staying in range to attack, as tho dictating range n tempo to wear an opponent down physically & mentally is now a bad thing in a 12 rd Championship fight.
Naw man, yer reaching & the more I look at it the more I dont like it.
Im done on this one, let the judges sort it out.
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Fantastic brake down buddy.
Thanks fam
@coachbarryrobinson
Fantastic brake down buddy.
Fantastic brake down buddy.
Fantastic brake down buddy.
Fantastic brake down buddy.
Fantastic brake down buddy.