I just said this today to my girlfriend. And im 28 years old. Im in the same boat, im a machinist, i make decent money, great 401k. But just not happy.
@@littlepepper4370 my brother in law is a truck driver, and he hates it. I love driving, but i hate traffic. I took a roadtrip once from California back home to Massachusetts. It was fun but tiring
This guy has discovered the reality of working for someone else. The likelihood of you being passionate about what someone else wants you to do is very low. Plenty of people enjoy their work, and enjoy the people they work with, and enjoy the steady paycheck, but very few are passionate about it to the point that they think of little else.
Just discovered this recently. My industry went mostly remote & most people dont want that to change. Personally, I liked working alongside people, so that aspect of my job is essentially gone :/
That didn’t apply to me yet even if it did, I still hate it. I learned the hard way doing what you are naturally good at doesn’t work for everyone and you know what? Thank God for that realization. It means it’s time to move on and find work that you are passionate about and learn to become good at that.
You have to leave at that stage, unfortunately, those who move job every 3-4 years make more money than those who stay at one place longer term, just the way the world works unfortunately
yeah what Cian said, they wont appreciate your extra work and wont pay you a dime extra besides the once in a while company wide raise. You have to move jobs constantly or ask that job you are in to increase your pay and leave if they dont. It sucks leaving your comfort zone and constantly moving jobs but these companies do not care about you as they say they do, they will replace you in a heartbeat and over work you if they can
I understand this guy 💯 That’s why my wife and I quit our 9-5s, sold out stuff, and moved into a small A-frame house across country to slow down and live life on our own terms
I want to do this. I don’t think any 9-5 job would ever fulfill me I just want to be free that’s all I want. I’m saving money as of now to probably just get a van and just live in it.
I’m so inspired by what you guys did but I’m also terrified of the rest of the country. I have never driven on snow or been through a hurricane or anything remotely dangerous.
@@mirabella2154 exactly for many people having a regular salaried position is a huge privilege. i don't care if my work is boring. as long i do my work quicker then expected, i do whatever i want.
Passion is such a nebulous word. It’s been so overused. Even my employer asks us on surveys how “passionate” we are about our work. When I lived to work and looked to my job/career for fulfillment I was MISERABLE. Now I work to live. Am I passionate about what I do? No. Do I like it well enough to do it for what they pay me? Sure! It allows me to enjoy other things in life like my house, my dog, paddle boarding, whatever. Part of it is certainly because I’m finally getting paid well, which I wasn’t at previous jobs. But some of it is because I found things in life that I enjoy and am passionate about that my job allows me to pay for. Sometimes it’s not a new job people need, but a new perspective.
@@kevinabernardo no, I’m saying that work isn’t the only place to derive fulfillment from in life. I’d rather have a job I’m less passionate about that allows me to pay for the things I AM passionate about than to make work the only thing I find passion and fulfillment in and be broke. And when work was the only thing I looked to for passion and fulfillment I found neither and I was miserable. We all have to make money, which means 99% of us have to work. Might as well find some way to enjoy it, even if that means looking outside of work for enjoyment.
It doesn't get any better, kid. I've felt like you since 25 when I got my first full time career. I'm 32 now. It never gets better. You just get better at getting numb and not caring about work as much.
I know exactly what this guy is talking about. It’s not necessarily about passion. It’s a desire to grow. I was working a steady job for 10 years but the growth rate to get up in the workplace was minimal. You just get tired and burned out and ready for a change.
I am 27 and feel the same way about my job. I have come to the realization that most people don't love their job, it is just a way to make ends meet. I may never "love" any job i do so i try my hardest to love the life i have outside of work instead.
I’m 27 as well, and having the same realization. I work for a giant corporation with good pay and benefits and people are generally impressed when I tell them about my job. However, I absolutely hate it. I wake up to a rush of anxiety that I have to spend another day doing this. I think if you can find a job that allows you time and money to do activities outside of work it may be worth it, but jobs just want more and more of our time. Don’t give up on finding your way 👍🏼
To me, that's such a depressing reality, but it is what it is. I just wish I could do something that made an impact like films do. But I have to do what I have to do and continue studying Software Engineering and Computer Science.
I am 26 too, been working since I was 18 it doesnt get better. Its not about a company or the people. I dont care about anyone. I dont want to work at all, slaving away my life. But you have to to pay your bills and to eat. I just want to live my life, enjoy my life. I dont care about anything else.
I’m 28 and used to feel the same way. The issue with everyone searching for passion in a job is that most of the jobs that run this country suck. I’m a mechanic and don’t love it but I like the people I work with and I like helping out friends and family with their cars. You have to find something you enjoy outside of work or volunteer to bring meaning and passion to your life.
I am a software engineer. It doesn't passion me one bit. I work on this because it is well payed. I enjoy it and I'm good at it. But I dedicate as less time as possible, since my passion goes to art (as a hobby, I don't want to starve).
Me too. No passion for it either. The last thing I want to look at when I sign off work is a computer screen. But I feel like that's a problem in our position since it almost feels necessary to be keeping up with new tech and doing courses/certs and personal projects... I just have absolutely no desire or will to do so. Just wish my work felt more interesting or meaningful like it used to
@@dummy999 I feel you man. I sometimes still wonder why I chose this career. I dislike coding, but it's the best thing I could find that pays well I guess... Someday perhaps, I'll be able to make the films I want.
@@Cesification999 The demand for anything related to the "arts" is quite low. I like teaching, but let's be honest, teachers don't earn much and most students don't want to learn.
@Daniel spot on. Theirs overestimating of teachers, most don't get paid that much, actually depend on what you teach, and most importantly connections. I Have a cousin who straight out college got into the public school system very quickly due to that fact. She loves doing it, her students love her and she's happy currently.
Work as a statistician in a different industry! It’s a great career and you could work in everything from startups to massive international businesses in pharma, economics, medical research, artificial intelligence, operations, ...
He needs to job hunt in the big cities (SF, LA, NY) as a Data Scientist (not Statistician). He can make 1.5x - 3x more. Cost of living will be more but it won't offset the extra 60k+ he will make. He needs to surround himself with likeminded people, network and take some chances.
Find and do what your passionate about. Don’t wait till you have a family then you will be stuck paying bills. Now is the time to take these risks before it gets complicated.
@@XSkimmilkmanX to live a life that is useful to mankind and give Glory to God. More specifically to provide free or cheap medical service for the less fortunate of this world.
Passion changes man. I really dislike the fact that we push this so much. I do get it. But it's not all about passion. We need to be grounded in reality too.
It sounds like he's getting burned out and couldn't find the right way to describe it. We don't need passion to be content in a career, but getting burned out can be miserable
@@Mom_of_the_Chickies I honestly don't know. I would imagine finding ways to manage your stress and boundaries could help. I'd like to hear from someone who actually knows!
If you don’t love your work, it’s going to be exactly that, work. Finding work that brings you joy is what truly transforms a job into a career that you love!
If there is one plus, it is the fact that you at least get paid well for the type of work that you do. It's much worse when you find yourself in a dead-end job without getting compensated fairly for the work you put in. That is the ultimate stagnation.
I recently hit 27 and I had the same thought. I never "found my passion," but at this point in my life I don't care. All I need is a job that can help pay for the things I actually like doing. That's good enough for me.
I get it, bills need to be paid. But on the other side of the coin, life is too short to be so miserable. I'm in the same boat. Miserable in my career.
I'm 27 and made this switch in January. Went to a new company doing the same job. 200% better place to work and I'm much happier now. I almost left the industry because of the old company. Make the switch!
I USED to love ❤️ my job but since the changes in upper management they have changed so many things that I absolutely HATE it now and all my old coworkers who I’ve been working with the past 20+ years have either retired, quit or let go !! Things have changed so much at my work that I absolutely HATE it !! I can’t do anything until this dam pandemic 😷 is over !!
Management killed my brothers work place after the boss tragically died. It went from a great place to work to shutting down because of bad management. It sucks.
The expression is the grass IS always greener on the other side of the fence. It means when you’re on side “A”, the grass on side “B” will appear greener. When you’re on side “B”, the grass on side “A” will appear greener.
I just said this today to my girlfriend. And im 28 years old. Im in the same boat, im a machinist, i make decent money, great 401k. But just not happy about where im at.
Same 30 year old apartment maintenance. Tired of industry paying hard working techs and expect them to know and perform all trades for 20 dollars an hour . Need to start own business. Probably could double that pay. Problem is that we don’t own what we do.
@@benb3799 yes. Im still young, jack of all trades, master of none. Anything from carpentry to automotive. I do it all, but just tired of back breaking work. Theres another way, i just have to find that path
Same I’m 24 I can wfh some weeks and some in the office salary is decent but the job is just too much for me and I’m very stressed out it’s like living in a nightmare.
@@SharlenesJourney honestly, this isnt what life is about. Its too short and i want to experience more things before im old and wrinkly and cant sky dive and hike the mountains and go parasailing. If we just work work work and pay bills, stress, wake up and kill our bodies. Its not worth it.
I wasn't either, then I dug in. Took on more responsibility without more pay. And now I enjoy my work and am getting promoted. You can find meaning in your work.
It's ok to not be ok. I went to grad school, debt free outside of house, and I like my job, I don't love it. Caller should check out FIRE, we're all the same guy here.
wow im on the same boat, im 27 and i worked for the usps...everyone tells me im stupid for not going back cause it has job security, great benefits and good money. Only two of those are true and this vid really make me appreciate myself more that im worth more than that. I felt the pain in Johns words and it's true.....it gets tiring and old really quick. I need something new.
@@lilsamantha1 yeah fr, I'm out of that job, best decision ever. It really takes a certain type of person to do it, but definitely learned a lot about myself and the world.
I’m not passionate about my job but I am competent and do enjoy it. The answer is to have hobbies you are passionate about, a family you are passionate about. You could even get a side hustle you are passionate about.
Same boat as him. I'll be 31 soon. No passion for what I do but trying to transfer has been next to impossible. Waiting as patiently as I can because there are other duties in my job field I like but am not currently doing it.
@@forever2039 Most people post details that are important to them. Don't see anything else from him. That's what he chose to post. Just having fun back.
@@chrislim7976 who said that is all he got out of it? What he posted is a quote from the video which him along with 50+ others found funny. Not to mention the multiple other comments below pointing out the same thing.
I was laid off at his age in 2008 and should have left sooner. The illusion of job security kept me there. Getting laid off turned out to be the kick I needed to start a better career. 😉
Is it really a requirement to be passionate about a job, though? You're selling labor for a wage. As long as your buyer is good with your results, you've met your end of the agreement. Not all, or even most, fulfillment comes from work. No one's epitaph reads, "He wished he spent more time at work."
Yep. Use your wages to do something you enjoy. Look forward to the weekend when you can spend time on it, and go to work Mondays refreshed with something to talk about. I should take my own advice. Lol
Being passionate can sometimes lead to addiction due to that rush of dopamine. If you really want motivation, think about other people and help them the best way you can do. People that don’t like their job and find yourself complaining about them not being passionate, again think about helping others and not what people don’t want to do because that’s their problem.
the best way to destory ur life is follow ur passion and make passion ur job. you quickly start hating ur passion. never follow passion, follow money. then use free time to do whatver u passionate about.
Terrible advice. You never have enough freetime and will end up hating your job, which bleeds into other parts of life. Being comfortable financially and having some form of passion is the key. Working some soulless corporate job for money and working for the weekend constantly is a short and awful existence
I love engineering. My first internship was with a municipal public utility. It was extremely boring, and felt pointless day in day out. I would advise this guy to move to the private sector, he might get more fulfillment.
I’m 24 and I’m just so depressed the job is sooo boring and I’m very uninterested in it and unmotivated. Sadly the only thing I love doing is playing video games yes I know it’s not a real job however I can see myself streaming playing video games for money. Any other job I would just be depressed in it I can’t work in a office setting it’s just too much politics and office rules feels like a animal in a cage. Ugh it’s just very frustrating 😞
So typical of federal jobs. The feds can kill passion quicker than any supervisor in the commercial sector. Take that passion, before it fades any more, and develop a commercial product. Be your own inspiration.
This dude dont need to leave his job, he needs a hobby on the side hes passionate about while he's investing to retire with a pension that's unheard of these days. DONT QUIT.
I just left the state government. Left for private industry. 60k to 105k just by switching roles. My new team is motivated, driven, and lovely. Government is a great place to get nothing done and still get paid
Doesn't matter if you are passionate at what you do, there will always be frustrations when you turn that passion into your job. You will always think the grass will be greener, so you will need to think long and hard before pursuing another career. Always have a plan in place before making sudden moves
I’m in nursing and this is exactly the way I feel. The passion for nursing in the environment I’m in doesn’t really exist. And on top of that, the harder I work the more work I’m given. And everyone else just falls back and sits on their hands and collects a paycheck.
Love what I do but hate the toxic work culture; maybe because it’s a 100% commission based income people act like hungry wolves at all times. Human are disgusting when it come to survival & money.
My husband's great-grandmother said the same thing to my father-in-law who started his own business..."when are you going to get a real job?" He's doing just fine, btw. 🤣
The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. My father had a job with iron clad job security, stock options and, and pension. Ended up going to a job that doubled his income. They went broke and laid him off after 5 years among the other top earners at the company. The other company is still going strong and the shares have skyrocketed in value.
This is most people. I don’t hate my job but I don’t love it. Only reason im there is cause it pays the bills and puts food on the table & I’m able to take care of my family. For me it’s not about passion it’s about what’s gonna take care of the family that’s it
He's fallen for the lie that a lot of people have fallen for, that if you get a good education and work hard you can get a dream job. He's not living the Rockstar life and is disappointed that it he isn't excited about waking up in the morning to go to work. Welcome to being an adult.
@@kind2423 living the rockstar life isn't normal. That's why having a dull boring job is normalized. Very few people will ever get to work their dream job, and of those that do, only a very few of them will be able to pay their bills doing so. Don't fall into the trap thinking that if you just work hard and go to school, you can get rich and have an awesome time doing it. Part of becoming an adult is letting go of your childhood fantasies.
Lose passion or lose the house. You pick. Anything that becomes work... you WILL lose some passion for it. You can love cooking until you become a chef and now you never wanna look at a stove again. It’s life buddy. You have a career that pays the bills... next caller!
This one hit home to some degree. Only difference is I started losing the passion after 20 years of liking what I do…. But the money is way too good and at my level it would take a specialty, like medicine or dentistry to make more money. 5 years from a full pension and I’ll still be under the age of 48. What would people’s advice be in my scenario?
I am in a graduate STEM program which requires a stats course and my instructor is a PhD in fitness I think ? And a statistician. He seems happy and passionate about his job teaching us and life from what I can tell 🙂
It's not a question of passion - it's ambition. He's ambitious and wants the benefits that comes with that ambition, but not the risk. You can't have both.
Welcome to life. 30+ I'm not passionate about my dead end job, organization is horrible, managment doesn't care, it's a free for all. Yet it currently brings a paycheck. I know how it feels dude. This is life.
@@DiamondScuff you're correct, i make good money but there comes a time you realize you're being paid to be miserable and life is too short, i feel his paid 😔
Welcome to the average life, what about people who do love their jobs? Life is much sweeter when you enjoy work and outside of work but you wouldn’t ever know that experience
Currently have been at a new job for 2 years now and doing much better. Better work environment, work semi independently and can make major decisions depending on the circumstances.
One of the underrated benefits of the modern 1st-world is that we get to choose how we will suffer at work. The social, political and technological climates do not force me to stay in a trade or location, like in many times before. The caller is mature enough to get re-focused before his resume locks him in
5:02 Wow. My dad didn't grow up in the depression, but he did grow up for poor. And this explains why he worked jobs he often didn't like. He did it for the family & he discourages me from starting my own business for a reason. 6:54 Also, if my business does fail I could PROBABLY go back to my in demand field. Thanks for the insights!
@@christhesoftwareguy5672 still, nothing is certain in life. Many things can go wrong, with the job itself or with you, security is an illusion we're sold. Things change over time.
@@mrknarf4438You could die tomorrow, take the risk. What I would say is make sure you have a payed off house and car. If you have that, you could could survive off McDonald's wages. It won't be fun but you won't lose your house at least.
At the end of the day work is work. It's important to be a contributing member of society. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to fully love what they do for a living.
What do you do if this happens to a 58 year old but you need to keep a job until you get a job...while you're at an age where ageism could ruin your chances of finding another job?
"Job burnout" is your attitude, not your situation. Your meaning in life and satisfaction DO NOT have to come from your job! He's frustrated with the job; but that's probably because of something else going on in his life, not the job. I'm confident that no matter what else he decides to do, or how successful he becomes, he will miss those benefits he's throwing away when retirement time comes. Stay long enough to get the pension, and then do something else. Meanwhile, there's plenty of opportunity to do meaningful things and get fulfillment OUTSIDE of your "job".
Personally after living in a huge city my whole life. I am tired of it. So many lifeless drones and just monotony. I'd love to someday sell off everything but my truck and personal belongings and move to a smaller town with less than 100K people and live a quiet life with a small cozy house with a simple job that pays the bills and leaves some left over. I think people who chase those huge high paying jobs in big cities end up depressed or unfulfilled in life.
I would recommend this caller to become a Statistics Professor/Instructor. Good pay (Once become full time), able to work with staff who teach the same subject, and get to teach an important skill set to young adults.
I have a really hard time understanding this young generation and needing to be passionate. I’m part of this generation and don’t understand it. Not having advancement is one thing, but the quest for passion is another.
I'm 28, so in the same age bracket as him. Existentialism is a big philosophy of our generation....usually defined as a lack of belief in God, a strong desire to fulfil one's "self", no belief in objective Truth and a few other things. Soren Kierkegaard is a good place to start. Every generation subscribes to its own philosophy and this is merely our own (not that I personally am an existentialist!)
Well i dont think you need to be passionate but if you wake up everyday miserable and not wanting to go to work and you have another 20-25 years left of that. Whats the point in living at that point lol.
@@babatundeonabajo Yeah but you only live once in this life. If the avg human is lucky enough to live 100 years on this planet which is over billions of years old. We are only here for a blink in the eyes of the earth. You wont know if the grass is greener. But the fact your trying to better your life just like you would by exercising is almost always worth it.
I don’t care about “finding my passion,” I just need my work to be meaningful. It’s difficult finding a meaningful job that pays well.
@create306former firefighter here. You should take that one off the list it’s definitely not a high paying field.
That's because meaning has nothing to do with profit.
Meaning comes from within. Jobs won't give you that unless you can make the meaning of it yourself.
Found this in construction.
Medicine brother
Let's be honest, he's describing 90% of us.
I love my job! I build and repair koi ponds for a living! But then again I own the business with my brother so that’s probably why as well!
Describing me at 35.
I just said this today to my girlfriend. And im 28 years old. Im in the same boat, im a machinist, i make decent money, great 401k. But just not happy.
@@davidt.7558 a guy at my work used to be a machinist, until he got tired of it and became a truck driver, much happier
@@littlepepper4370 my brother in law is a truck driver, and he hates it. I love driving, but i hate traffic. I took a roadtrip once from California back home to Massachusetts. It was fun but tiring
This guy has discovered the reality of working for someone else. The likelihood of you being passionate about what someone else wants you to do is very low. Plenty of people enjoy their work, and enjoy the people they work with, and enjoy the steady paycheck, but very few are passionate about it to the point that they think of little else.
Well said.
Just discovered this recently. My industry went mostly remote & most people dont want that to change. Personally, I liked working alongside people, so that aspect of my job is essentially gone :/
I know exactly what he's talking about. When you reveal how good you are at your job you always get extra work but no extra kibble.
Exactly! That's what is killing me at the moment...
It appears this is worldwide... It's the same where I work. If you show how much you like the work you do, you get extra work (period).
That didn’t apply to me yet even if it did, I still hate it. I learned the hard way doing what you are naturally good at doesn’t work for everyone and you know what? Thank God for that realization. It means it’s time to move on and find work that you are passionate about and learn to become good at that.
You have to leave at that stage, unfortunately, those who move job every 3-4 years make more money than those who stay at one place longer term, just the way the world works unfortunately
yeah what Cian said, they wont appreciate your extra work and wont pay you a dime extra besides the once in a while company wide raise. You have to move jobs constantly or ask that job you are in to increase your pay and leave if they dont. It sucks leaving your comfort zone and constantly moving jobs but these companies do not care about you as they say they do, they will replace you in a heartbeat and over work you if they can
Don’t focus on your 9-5. Make the 9-5 as a means (income) to do what you are passionate about.
Bingo
That’s what I decided for myself.
Yes
Does that mean I can buy my dream car if I’m passionate about cars?
@@THECANDYISGONE If you have the money, it's something to look forward to getting.
It’s sounds like his hard work is only getting him more labor, instead of recognition and advancement.
Exactly. He wants the possibility of advancement or at least acknowledgement that if there was that possibility he would be the one who got it.
In the words of Dave....."shocking" 😬
As a manager I don't want to lose him. He's the best and cheapest employee to get the job done! Why would I lose profit for someone's passion?
@@Jimbo12880 then he needs enough of a spine to say he will leave unless he can get some kind of advancement/a raise...
I understand this guy 💯 That’s why my wife and I quit our 9-5s, sold out stuff, and moved into a small A-frame house across country to slow down and live life on our own terms
I want to do this. I don’t think any 9-5 job would ever fulfill me I just want to be free that’s all I want. I’m saving money as of now to probably just get a van and just live in it.
I’m so inspired by what you guys did but I’m also terrified of the rest of the country. I have never driven on snow or been through a hurricane or anything remotely dangerous.
Eeeee boring
I found this at the right time, I’m 27.
Life is about choosing what you want to suffer for, not about what will you choose to make you not suffer
Suffer?
If you're not gonna take risks now that you're 27 then when??? Take risks. Go to a company who's doing meaningful work
Amen 🙏
Not when you have a family. He is lucky if he doesn’t
What does "meaningful" mean? That is a very relative term....
@@mirabella2154 exactly for many people having a regular salaried position is a huge privilege. i don't care if my work is boring. as long i do my work quicker then expected, i do whatever i want.
Nobody is doing meaningful work it's all about money
Passion is such a nebulous word. It’s been so overused. Even my employer asks us on surveys how “passionate” we are about our work. When I lived to work and looked to my job/career for fulfillment I was MISERABLE. Now I work to live. Am I passionate about what I do? No. Do I like it well enough to do it for what they pay me? Sure! It allows me to enjoy other things in life like my house, my dog, paddle boarding, whatever. Part of it is certainly because I’m finally getting paid well, which I wasn’t at previous jobs. But some of it is because I found things in life that I enjoy and am passionate about that my job allows me to pay for. Sometimes it’s not a new job people need, but a new perspective.
Very good point.
VERY good way of looking at things. Thanks for this perspective!
IN other words, you're telling folks to sell out and embrace the 9-5 because that's just the way it is...
@@kevinabernardo no, I’m saying that work isn’t the only place to derive fulfillment from in life. I’d rather have a job I’m less passionate about that allows me to pay for the things I AM passionate about than to make work the only thing I find passion and fulfillment in and be broke. And when work was the only thing I looked to for passion and fulfillment I found neither and I was miserable. We all have to make money, which means 99% of us have to work. Might as well find some way to enjoy it, even if that means looking outside of work for enjoyment.
Needed to read this. Thank you.
It doesn't get any better, kid. I've felt like you since 25 when I got my first full time career. I'm 32 now. It never gets better. You just get better at getting numb and not caring about work as much.
I know exactly what this guy is talking about. It’s not necessarily about passion. It’s a desire to grow. I was working a steady job for 10 years but the growth rate to get up in the workplace was minimal. You just get tired and burned out and ready for a change.
This
Job security does not exist anymore. If you don’t perform like they want you to perform, you could be let go.
It does exist in federal government. You can barely have a pulse and still hold a federal job.
Yeah, if you’re lazy and don’t do your job you’ll be fired. Job security is about how needed that particular job will be in the future.
You can not lose your job working for state, local, or federal government.
Who cares
The only people with job security outside government workers are those in the medical field.
dude: "i work as a statistician and the people here are not passionate about what they do"
dave: "shocking"
dude: "i work for the *government* and the people here are not passionate about what they do"
dave: "shocking"
@@smallmoneybigmoney damn…me right now
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The caller is getting burned out-nothing else.
I am 27 and feel the same way about my job. I have come to the realization that most people don't love their job, it is just a way to make ends meet. I may never "love" any job i do so i try my hardest to love the life i have outside of work instead.
There’s another way man. Don’t settle.
Amen
I’m 27 as well, and having the same realization. I work for a giant corporation with good pay and benefits and people are generally impressed when I tell them about my job. However, I absolutely hate it. I wake up to a rush of anxiety that I have to spend another day doing this. I think if you can find a job that allows you time and money to do activities outside of work it may be worth it, but jobs just want more and more of our time. Don’t give up on finding your way 👍🏼
To me, that's such a depressing reality, but it is what it is. I just wish I could do something that made an impact like films do. But I have to do what I have to do and continue studying Software Engineering and Computer Science.
As a former government employee, I 100% understand where he’s coming from
I'm 26 and I wish I would have heard this years ago...
You’re still extremely young. Use that to your advantage and put your whole self toward whatever you want to be doing and you will succeed.
@@sisk22 you have no idea how much I appreciate that response. God bless
@@sisk22 Thank you, I needed to hear this.
Same.
I am 26 too, been working since I was 18 it doesnt get better. Its not about a company or the people. I dont care about anyone. I dont want to work at all, slaving away my life. But you have to to pay your bills and to eat. I just want to live my life, enjoy my life. I dont care about anything else.
I’m 28 and used to feel the same way. The issue with everyone searching for passion in a job is that most of the jobs that run this country suck. I’m a mechanic and don’t love it but I like the people I work with and I like helping out friends and family with their cars. You have to find something you enjoy outside of work or volunteer to bring meaning and passion to your life.
I am a software engineer. It doesn't passion me one bit. I work on this because it is well payed. I enjoy it and I'm good at it. But I dedicate as less time as possible, since my passion goes to art (as a hobby, I don't want to starve).
Me too. No passion for it either. The last thing I want to look at when I sign off work is a computer screen. But I feel like that's a problem in our position since it almost feels necessary to be keeping up with new tech and doing courses/certs and personal projects... I just have absolutely no desire or will to do so. Just wish my work felt more interesting or meaningful like it used to
@@dummy999 I feel you man. I sometimes still wonder why I chose this career. I dislike coding, but it's the best thing I could find that pays well I guess... Someday perhaps, I'll be able to make the films I want.
Don’t be another depressed 30 or 40 something. Start a side project you’re passionate about.
@@Daniel_Zalman then find a way to make it serve others and reap the rewards
@@Daniel_Zalman find new passions, you won't discover unless you try new things
@@Cesification999 The demand for anything related to the "arts" is quite low. I like teaching, but let's be honest, teachers don't earn much and most students don't want to learn.
@Daniel spot on. Theirs overestimating of teachers, most don't get paid that much, actually depend on what you teach, and most importantly connections. I Have a cousin who straight out college got into the public school system very quickly due to that fact. She loves doing it, her students love her and she's happy currently.
Oversaturation*
Work as a statistician in a different industry! It’s a great career and you could work in everything from startups to massive international businesses in pharma, economics, medical research, artificial intelligence, operations, ...
Statisticians makes lots of money, most of those jobs require Masters and PhDs!!!
He needs to job hunt in the big cities (SF, LA, NY) as a Data Scientist (not Statistician). He can make 1.5x - 3x more. Cost of living will be more but it won't offset the extra 60k+ he will make. He needs to surround himself with likeminded people, network and take some chances.
Same am in pharma and I love my job
Find and do what your passionate about. Don’t wait till you have a family then you will be stuck paying bills. Now is the time to take these risks before it gets complicated.
I needed to see this. Thank you.
So what is your passion
@@XSkimmilkmanX to live a life that is useful to mankind and give Glory to
God. More specifically to provide free or cheap medical service for the less fortunate of this world.
@@jusplay7309 As a believer, this is such a good passion.
Passion changes man. I really dislike the fact that we push this so much. I do get it. But it's not all about passion. We need to be grounded in reality too.
It sounds like he's getting burned out and couldn't find the right way to describe it. We don't need passion to be content in a career, but getting burned out can be miserable
How do you cure burnout?
@@Mom_of_the_Chickies I honestly don't know. I would imagine finding ways to manage your stress and boundaries could help. I'd like to hear from someone who actually knows!
Burned out at 27??? 😵😂
@@beachcoconuts3 some jobs burn you out much sooner than others and you realize you don't want to do it forever.
@@Mom_of_the_Chickies you work only 8h per day and close the laptop and go home. work is about paying the bills
i needed to hear ‘security is an illusion and a drug’
If you don’t love your work, it’s going to be exactly that, work. Finding work that brings you joy is what truly transforms a job into a career that you love!
Boom Brando!
Wow. Thanks for this LIFE CHANGING information... What a nothing, no substance comment.
@@Wakemeup456💀🤣
If there is one plus, it is the fact that you at least get paid well for the type of work that you do. It's much worse when you find yourself in a dead-end job without getting compensated fairly for the work you put in. That is the ultimate stagnation.
I recently hit 27 and I had the same thought. I never "found my passion," but at this point in my life I don't care. All I need is a job that can help pay for the things I actually like doing. That's good enough for me.
I get it, bills need to be paid. But on the other side of the coin, life is too short to be so miserable. I'm in the same boat. Miserable in my career.
But, it’s a career though not just a job.
@@rainbowpandasays8851 doesn't matter, job or career, if you're miserable then you're miserable 😂
Working 80 hours a week here and also miserable
Most relatable thing I ever heard on here
I'm 27 and made this switch in January. Went to a new company doing the same job. 200% better place to work and I'm much happier now. I almost left the industry because of the old company. Make the switch!
I USED to love ❤️ my job but since the changes in upper management they have changed so many things that I absolutely HATE it now and all my old coworkers who I’ve been working with the past 20+ years have either retired, quit or let go !! Things have changed so much at my work that I absolutely HATE it !! I can’t do anything until this dam pandemic 😷 is over !!
Yep. Some people just hold on a few more years for benefits and retirement.
Management killed my brothers work place after the boss tragically died. It went from a great place to work to shutting down because of bad management. It sucks.
Are you sure you are not describing my situation right now?☹️this is me you are talking about here, it’s so depressing
Damn, I feel for you… Hope things have improved since you wrote that comment.
Just remember...the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
The expression is the grass IS always greener on the other side of the fence.
It means when you’re on side “A”, the grass on side “B” will appear greener. When you’re on side “B”, the grass on side “A” will appear greener.
@@paddyballgame. Same difference. Lol.
@@paddyballgame it’s a twist on the expression
@@kiwi9660 sure it is.
@@pbnpepe4481 yes
I just said this today to my girlfriend. And im 28 years old. Im in the same boat, im a machinist, i make decent money, great 401k. But just not happy about where im at.
Same 30 year old apartment maintenance. Tired of industry paying hard working techs and expect them to know and perform all trades for 20 dollars an hour . Need to start own business. Probably could double that pay. Problem is that we don’t own what we do.
@@benb3799 yes. Im still young, jack of all trades, master of none. Anything from carpentry to automotive. I do it all, but just tired of back breaking work. Theres another way, i just have to find that path
Same I’m 24 I can wfh some weeks and some in the office salary is decent but the job is just too much for me and I’m very stressed out it’s like living in a nightmare.
@@SharlenesJourney honestly, this isnt what life is about. Its too short and i want to experience more things before im old and wrinkly and cant sky dive and hike the mountains and go parasailing. If we just work work work and pay bills, stress, wake up and kill our bodies. Its not worth it.
So what did u do in this 3 years bro
I wasn't either, then I dug in. Took on more responsibility without more pay. And now I enjoy my work and am getting promoted.
You can find meaning in your work.
You’re only as employable as someone is willing to pay you money to do something. Very wise words.
It's ok to not be ok. I went to grad school, debt free outside of house, and I like my job, I don't love it. Caller should check out FIRE, we're all the same guy here.
"You're only as secure as the ability yo do a work that people want to pay you for." Dave Ramsey.
So true!
wow im on the same boat, im 27 and i worked for the usps...everyone tells me im stupid for not going back cause it has job security, great benefits and good money. Only two of those are true and this vid really make me appreciate myself more that im worth more than that. I felt the pain in Johns words and it's true.....it gets tiring and old really quick. I need something new.
What are you trying to do now?
Uff USPS is very very hard job. And its also very hard to quit because its so comfortable
@@lilsamantha1 yeah fr, I'm out of that job, best decision ever. It really takes a certain type of person to do it, but definitely learned a lot about myself and the world.
@@SomeBotOfficial same I learned so much about myself...definetly taugh me to be more humble and grpunded
everyone gets job burnout after a few years
I’m not passionate about my job but I am competent and do enjoy it. The answer is to have hobbies you are passionate about, a family you are passionate about. You could even get a side hustle you are passionate about.
Same boat as him. I'll be 31 soon. No passion for what I do but trying to transfer has been next to impossible.
Waiting as patiently as I can because there are other duties in my job field I like but am not currently doing it.
You seem to be in shape you should start a RUclips channel and share some fitness knowledge.
I'm so glad that I legit love my job right now :). I hope my passion for my job lasts forever!
Good for you man, what do you do? What's your passion?
Same. I do web development and programming.
It won't.
After traveling abroad. this is me, don't like my salaried job and sometimes just wanna get out of this country and love abroad. 😭
“Hi dave im 27 years old and-“
“So how old are u?”
If that's what you got out of it that really says more about you buddy.
Chris Lim , it was a it fun detail you don't have to assume thats the only thing he got from it
@@forever2039
Most people post details that are important to them. Don't see anything else from him. That's what he chose to post. Just having fun back.
@@chrislim7976 who said that is all he got out of it? What he posted is a quote from the video which him along with 50+ others found funny. Not to mention the multiple other comments below pointing out the same thing.
@@pvn0369
I did.
I am also going to say you have more time on your hands than the poster or me.
There are pluses and minuses to everything
Indeed I would stay and rack money . It’s not about the work you do but what you do after you work IE retirement
Agreed
@@riverdaletales8457 that’s my mindset too
A Good Quote, Be happy for this moment, this moment is your life.
Must’ve gotten lucky. I enjoy what I do, passions are for hobbies! That way they never get boring.
I just miss my old job, new one pays well but its not fun like the old one. It is driving me nuts.
I was laid off at his age in 2008 and should have left sooner. The illusion of job security kept me there. Getting laid off turned out to be the kick I needed to start a better career. 😉
What do you do for a living now?
@@automotivetv9861 web developer.
@@JosephDickson how'd you get started?
@@JosephDickson How can someone get into web development? Bootcamps are 10k and up.
Is it really a requirement to be passionate about a job, though? You're selling labor for a wage. As long as your buyer is good with your results, you've met your end of the agreement. Not all, or even most, fulfillment comes from work. No one's epitaph reads, "He wished he spent more time at work."
Yep. Use your wages to do something you enjoy. Look forward to the weekend when you can spend time on it, and go to work Mondays refreshed with something to talk about. I should take my own advice. Lol
The bureaucratic nonsense and managers who are jerks can wear you down even if you like the actual work.
A job is just a job- nobody says you have to love what you do or passionate about it. Your life is not defined by your job.
Being passionate can sometimes lead to addiction due to that rush of dopamine. If you really want motivation, think about other people and help them the best way you can do. People that don’t like their job and find yourself complaining about them not being passionate, again think about helping others and not what people don’t want to do because that’s their problem.
the best way to destory ur life is follow ur passion and make passion ur job. you quickly start hating ur passion. never follow passion, follow money. then use free time to do whatver u passionate about.
Ehhh nah dude
Exactly
Terrible advice. You never have enough freetime and will end up hating your job, which bleeds into other parts of life. Being comfortable financially and having some form of passion is the key. Working some soulless corporate job for money and working for the weekend constantly is a short and awful existence
I love engineering. My first internship was with a municipal public utility. It was extremely boring, and felt pointless day in day out. I would advise this guy to move to the private sector, he might get more fulfillment.
I’m 24 and I’m just so depressed the job is sooo boring and I’m very uninterested in it and unmotivated. Sadly the only thing I love doing is playing video games yes I know it’s not a real job however I can see myself streaming playing video games for money. Any other job I would just be depressed in it I can’t work in a office setting it’s just too much politics and office rules feels like a animal in a cage. Ugh it’s just very frustrating 😞
You should look up HealthyGamerGG. He's a RUclips psych that talks about related issues.
Mysterious Stranger thank you so much I’m
Going to look him up right now 🙏🏾
So typical of federal jobs. The feds can kill passion quicker than any supervisor in the commercial sector. Take that passion, before it fades any more, and develop a commercial product. Be your own inspiration.
Big corporate firms have they same castrating effect.
This dude dont need to leave his job, he needs a hobby on the side hes passionate about while he's investing to retire with a pension that's unheard of these days. DONT QUIT.
Passion is when you're not at work !! Go buy a kx 450 4stroke that's how to live man .
I just left the state government. Left for private industry. 60k to 105k just by switching roles. My new team is motivated, driven, and lovely. Government is a great place to get nothing done and still get paid
look into being an actuary, lotta exams to study for while you're working but def worth it
Doesn't matter if you are passionate at what you do, there will always be frustrations when you turn that passion into your job. You will always think the grass will be greener, so you will need to think long and hard before pursuing another career. Always have a plan in place before making sudden moves
Spot on
Grow up. Let your hobbies be your passion. A lot of people are broke because they followed their passion.
I’m in nursing and this is exactly the way I feel. The passion for nursing in the environment I’m in doesn’t really exist. And on top of that, the harder I work the more work I’m given. And everyone else just falls back and sits on their hands and collects a paycheck.
Then switch jobs. I am in healthcare too and you can find a passionate environment quite easily.
@@alexmurphy5289 , yessir!
@@alexmurphy5289 , I’m leaving the industry altogether. I’m excited about the future!
I think the solution here is simple. Start doing something you like on the side. If it takes off then do that full time.
Love what I do but hate the toxic work culture; maybe because it’s a 100% commission based income people act like hungry wolves at all times. Human are disgusting when it come to survival & money.
My husband's great-grandmother said the same thing to my father-in-law who started his own business..."when are you going to get a real job?"
He's doing just fine, btw. 🤣
Same, bud. Hate my job over here and still looking
It's been 3 years have you found a better one yet?
I feel the same. I’m just not satisfied or challenged by my job anymore.
The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. My father had a job with iron clad job security, stock options and, and pension. Ended up going to a job that doubled his income. They went broke and laid him off after 5 years among the other top earners at the company. The other company is still going strong and the shares have skyrocketed in value.
This is most people. I don’t hate my job but I don’t love it. Only reason im there is cause it pays the bills and puts food on the table & I’m able to take care of my family. For me it’s not about passion it’s about what’s gonna take care of the family that’s it
@create306What is “pays well?” I’ve found that sometimes higher pay means more miserable job.
He's fallen for the lie that a lot of people have fallen for, that if you get a good education and work hard you can get a dream job. He's not living the Rockstar life and is disappointed that it he isn't excited about waking up in the morning to go to work. Welcome to being an adult.
Not looking forward to this lol
But I don’t understand why this is normalized as being an “adult”. Life doesn’t have to be this way
Being an adult is about paying bills.
@@kind2423 living the rockstar life isn't normal. That's why having a dull boring job is normalized. Very few people will ever get to work their dream job, and of those that do, only a very few of them will be able to pay their bills doing so. Don't fall into the trap thinking that if you just work hard and go to school, you can get rich and have an awesome time doing it. Part of becoming an adult is letting go of your childhood fantasies.
@@sitiwrattz I agree some what. Some people make their dreams reality and some just settle
I like to go window shopping for a new job every now and then. I’ve never taken a new position yet because the grass isn’t always greener.
Hey your name looks familiar :) and you’re right, it isn’t always greener. So I’d plant new grass!
Lose passion or lose the house. You pick. Anything that becomes work... you WILL lose some passion for it. You can love cooking until you become a chef and now you never wanna look at a stove again. It’s life buddy. You have a career that pays the bills... next caller!
Not true lol. I’m day trading and I love doing it everyday😄👍💯💯💯
Well said!
Exactly.
Dave's position is like someone getting ready for the worst situation
Like someone who sees a storm and doesn't have an umbrella
It was the opposite for me, loved my job but no money. 🤔
I'm kind of in the same boat right now. 😅 But I just feel indifferent towards it right now. Don't like it or hate it either.
Right. Everyone has to make choices. Having it all is as rare as winning the lottery.
@C&G/G&C Was it worth it?
I turned 30 this year and found something I enjoyed despite having a bachelor's degree.
This one hit home to some degree. Only difference is I started losing the passion after 20 years of liking what I do…. But the money is way too good and at my level it would take a specialty, like medicine or dentistry to make more money. 5 years from a full pension and I’ll still be under the age of 48. What would people’s advice be in my scenario?
Retire with a good life to look forward ahead of you. Stay healthy.
Consider yourself in the top 1% of the world wealth-wise and be thankful.
The way he described not being passionate was great despite being passionate in my job
I am in a graduate STEM program which requires a stats course and my instructor is a PhD in fitness I think ? And a statistician. He seems happy and passionate about his job teaching us and life from what I can tell 🙂
It's not a question of passion - it's ambition. He's ambitious and wants the benefits that comes with that ambition, but not the risk. You can't have both.
This way this man’s situation and mine are similar to a T as a fed employee myself 😭 it’s scary how bad I needed this video
Welcome to life. 30+ I'm not passionate about my dead end job, organization is horrible, managment doesn't care, it's a free for all.
Yet it currently brings a paycheck.
I know how it feels dude.
This is life.
A "settled" life.
@@DiamondScuff you're correct, i make good money but there comes a time you realize you're being paid to be miserable and life is too short, i feel his paid 😔
Welcome to the average life, what about people who do love their jobs? Life is much sweeter when you enjoy work and outside of work but you wouldn’t ever know that experience
Currently have been at a new job for 2 years now and doing much better. Better work environment, work semi independently and can make major decisions depending on the circumstances.
One of the underrated benefits of the modern 1st-world is that we get to choose how we will suffer at work. The social, political and technological climates do not force me to stay in a trade or location, like in many times before. The caller is mature enough to get re-focused before his resume locks him in
I am in the same place and I feel stuck but the difference is that I don’t job security and work in private sector and am 32.
5:02 Wow. My dad didn't grow up in the depression, but he did grow up for poor.
And this explains why he worked jobs he often didn't like. He did it for the family & he discourages me from starting my own business for a reason.
6:54 Also, if my business does fail I could PROBABLY go back to my in demand field.
Thanks for the insights!
lol Dave doesn’t understand how the feds work. I relate to this guy and understand where he is coming from
facts.....It's hard to get fired once you finish your probation period (as a current GS-14).
@@christhesoftwareguy5672 hard to get fired from a job you hate makes it worse and the dreadful cycle continues
@@christhesoftwareguy5672 still, nothing is certain in life. Many things can go wrong, with the job itself or with you, security is an illusion we're sold. Things change over time.
@@mrknarf4438You could die tomorrow, take the risk. What I would say is make sure you have a payed off house and car. If you have that, you could could survive off McDonald's wages. It won't be fun but you won't lose your house at least.
Back in the yearly 2010s my parents weren't supportive when I wanted to become a programmer and now look at how business is :)
At the end of the day work is work. It's important to be a contributing member of society. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to fully love what they do for a living.
What do you do if this happens to a 58 year old but you need to keep a job until you get a job...while you're at an age where ageism could ruin your chances of finding another job?
Most people hate their jobs. And they know.. that's why they pay us.
If one wants passion, then read a romance novel. One works for a paycheck, not entertainment. Not everybody gets to be an astronaut or quarterback.
You’re thinking about it the wrong way.
"Job burnout" is your attitude, not your situation. Your meaning in life and satisfaction DO NOT have to come from your job! He's frustrated with the job; but that's probably because of something else going on in his life, not the job. I'm confident that no matter what else he decides to do, or how successful he becomes, he will miss those benefits he's throwing away when retirement time comes. Stay long enough to get the pension, and then do something else. Meanwhile, there's plenty of opportunity to do meaningful things and get fulfillment OUTSIDE of your "job".
Personally after living in a huge city my whole life. I am tired of it. So many lifeless drones and just monotony. I'd love to someday sell off everything but my truck and personal belongings and move to a smaller town with less than 100K people and live a quiet life with a small cozy house with a simple job that pays the bills and leaves some left over. I think people who chase those huge high paying jobs in big cities end up depressed or unfulfilled in life.
I would recommend this caller to become a Statistics Professor/Instructor. Good pay (Once become full time), able to work with staff who teach the same subject, and get to teach an important skill set to young adults.
3:33 opened my eyes to the truth
I have a really hard time understanding this young generation and needing to be passionate. I’m part of this generation and don’t understand it.
Not having advancement is one thing, but the quest for passion is another.
I'm 28, so in the same age bracket as him. Existentialism is a big philosophy of our generation....usually defined as a lack of belief in God, a strong desire to fulfil one's "self", no belief in objective Truth and a few other things. Soren Kierkegaard is a good place to start. Every generation subscribes to its own philosophy and this is merely our own (not that I personally am an existentialist!)
Well i dont think you need to be passionate but if you wake up everyday miserable and not wanting to go to work and you have another 20-25 years left of that. Whats the point in living at that point lol.
@@DiamondScuff That's true but at the same time the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.
@@babatundeonabajo Yeah but you only live once in this life. If the avg human is lucky enough to live 100 years on this planet which is over billions of years old. We are only here for a blink in the eyes of the earth. You wont know if the grass is greener. But the fact your trying to better your life just like you would by exercising is almost always worth it.
Because there's more to life than living like a robot.
7:38
Get out get out get out get out 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
He is not special. 90% of people don’t like where they work. Big deal.