Josh Pate On CFB Program Ranking BACKLASH (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2024
- What are the top 10 College Football programs in America? On Late Kick Live Ep 501 Josh Pate shared some viewer and listener reaction to his rankings. Are UGA and Alabama still 1-2? How do Michigan and Ohio State stack up? What about Texas as they enter the SEC? Where are Oregon and USC as they enter the Big Ten? Has FSU passed Clemson in the ACC? What about Notre Dame? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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I'm still trying to figure out how you have UGA above Bama when Bama has owned UGA even the past few years and the 1 win UGA does have was when Bama was injured and had already beat them the same year and then one of UGAs other Natties they got lucky and didn't even have to play Bama that year. You have no logical answer for that.
Beat them 3 years a row. Won 3 big ten titles in a row, three playoffs and a National championship. They still think they are better.
Cheated 3 years in a row sanctions are coming in the next few years already getting the hammer from the ncaa why do you think every coach left except for Moore? Your recruiting is hot garbage and the amount of returning players is abysmal
rooting for 10 years in a row 😂😂
The Michigan football program is in absolute meltdown mode.
On probation
Three commitments for 2025
Two staff DUIs
Harbaugh was suspended twice last season for two separate cheating scandals
Michigan is not a top ten program.
@@johnbochenek5526 JP already told y'all it's reflective, not predictive, first off. Second off, they've lost 3 games in the last 3 seasons, have shown that they can win without their head coach, and have consistently been the most physical team on the field every time they've stepped on it
Winning a big 10 championship against Iowa doesn’t count.
A video like this ending with the pic of Josh sipping from the chalice of supremacy gives off the kermit "but that's none of my business" meme vibes
Gee.... And people wonder why we want out of the ACC.
I disagree with Josh on a lot of things but I respect the hell out of his college football knowledge and in spite of some things he believes in I Have been a subscriber for over 4 years I believe.
He's absolutely right about this and The Snub backs this up.... LSU does have a slight edge in being a championship contender over Florida State.
This is because they are in the SEC. Period.
By the way, I had some very interesting conversations this weekend.... I now predict Florida State will be out of the ACC by the end of the calendar year.
Of course purely an opinion but, and educated one.
The only team I don't agree with being on the list is Notre Dame.
I could be ok with notre dame over clemson but definitely not ahead of fsu or lsu
@@ImChazo the only problem with that is that would still put them at #9 or #10 which is still on the list. OP is a ND hater to claim they shouldn't be on the list at all.
lol hater. I can see saying they were ranked to high but saying they shouldn't be on the list at all? Come on now. Who should be on instead of them? A one year wonder like Mizzouri who will NEVER be seen as a top tier team in their own conference. Even now Notre Dame out recruits Missouri on their own instate kids. A team like Tennessee that has still underachieved for 20-30 years and still hasn't proven anything. Kansas State? Penn State? Utah? USC? Miami? The only possible team I could argue for is Oklahoma but even that is a stretch. If Oklahoma outperforms ND next season then yea I could see it but that's a pretty big IF and again even IF they did it would still be a little bit of a stretch to vault them over ND.
@@tomdemay6147 Why do people who disagree with your opinion always have to be a hater lol...Your fragile ego is a lot like the team over in South Bend... Weak. Btw... Rudy was offsides.
@@raniebranson8051 because Notre Dame is undeniable top 10 program. Worst case #11. You want to argue they are overrated that is reasonable but how can you say they aren't top 10 without any facts. Notre Dame is top 10 on the field in winning percentage, Notre Dame is top 10 in revenue, Notre Dame is top 10 in fan support, Notre Dame is top 10 recruiting. All these factors which make up a "program" can be measured and Notre Dame is top 10 in all of them. Want to argue they are lower top 10, again I hear you. They "cant compete" with Georgia and Ohio State on the field? Ok fine, but are you seriously going to argue they haven't outperformed teams that missed this list. Teams like Penn State, Tennessee. Notre Dame has clearly outperformed these teams on the field recently, Notre Dame has made multiple playoffs while these teams never made playoffs, Notre Dame has been to better bowl games, finished with higher rankings MOST years. Look up recruiting. Again the rankings speak for themselves Notre Dame brings in classes ranked around 7-13 every year depending on what service you look at. That is arguably "bottom" of top 10. But its clearly high enough to be a STABLE top 10 team.
Everyone should remember opinions are like assholes. Everyone’s got one!
As long as you don't get on your Kirk Herbstreit when it comes to FSU i might finally subscribe. Even if we can agree to disagree im cool, but going undefeated aint easy and for you media to be so far up Nick Saban a$$ is ridiculous.
I think Josh should broaden the appeal and make the discussion more inclusive by widening the scope of discussion to “Top 25 Programs”. 😈
love when Josh addresses the comments and schools yall lmfao
Not sure if the show takes ideas from the comments but a segment about teams from the past who would’ve been in the 12 team playoff if it was around that could’ve won it all would be fun
Josh, can you please give a scoop on Arizona St ncaa violations?
Ole Miss fan and only team I could argue deserves to be below us is Clemson, and that's only if you weight recency more. We'll be up there next year, anyway
absolutely agree. Maybe next year we can be higher but right now it 10 in my opinion
Acting like Michigan is CURRENTLY in a better position that OSU is a little strange to me. They are facing serious NCAA penalties, are falling flat on recruiting, and have an entirely new roaster and coaching staff. They’ve had the edge the last 3 seasons, but we found out that they cheated on the field and in recruiting for 2.5 seasons. You have to account for that.
Michigan was ahead of OSU. Now their legendary coach is gone, replaced with a dud. Imagine if Bama replaced Saban with Sherrone Moore.
Michigan’s “Legendary” coach vs OSU:
2015 LOST
2016 LOST
2017 LOST
2018 LOST
2019 LOST
2020 FORFEITED
2021 CHEATED
2022 CHEATED
2023 SUSPENDED
@@SatansShart He went on a legendary 3 season run, elevated the program to new heights. It is what It is. He didn't cheat in developing the 18 draft prospects.
@@SatansShart Also, the Buckeye administration shouldn't have forced out coach Meyer. Maybe the last 3 seasons would've ended differently.
@@SatansShart He is a legend. You can hate all you want. I'm a ND fan and I hate Michigan. Harbaugh was an elite coach on the same level as Smart, Saban, Meyer etc. complaining about "cheating" is crybaby antics. Harbaugh was able to "coach up" Michigan because he is great at coaching fundamentals and toughness. He is also a QB coach which benefitted in raising the play of a less talented QB like McCarthy to championship level. You have to give credit when its due. Harbaugh is real deal. You can cry "cheater" all you want. USC went on sanctions have Pete Carroll, who then went on to go to SuperBowls in the NFL. Is Pete Carroll not a legend? The fact is when you have the success at BOTH the college and NFL level that someone like Harbaugh did you have to give them that credit.
@@tomdemay6147 “raising the play of a less talented QB like McCarthy.”
McCarthy was a Five Star out of high school. What are you talking about? lol
Why couldn’t Harbaugh “raise up” 5 star Shea Patterson? lol His best years were at Ol’ Miss. He regressed statistically under Harbaugh.
I’m not arguing the guy isn’t a great coach but you don’t sound like you really know what you’re talking about.
You’re also comparing Harbaugh’s staff cheating for a live in game advantage, to USC/PC’s recruiting violations. Which by the way, Michigan/Harbaugh just got in trouble for as well (level 1 violations related to recruiting).
Michigan turns 3 stars into 1st - 2nd round draft picks. Nuff said
Chris Olave - 3 star first round pick
Dawand Jones - 3 star and starting tackle day one in the NFL
Nuff said
this john guy trolling the comment section is having a hard time coping.
Jim Harbaugh did that. There is no guarentee that continues without him and its likely that it wont. Harbaugh was also very good with QBs such as coaching Kap to a Super Bowl in NFL and coaching McCarthy up the way he did. It's much more likely without Harbaugh who was on the same type of level as Saban, Meyers, Smart etc as a true elite coach, that Michigan takes a step back and starts to look more like Penn State or Notre Dame than they stay on the level they are now competing with Bama, Ohio State and Georgia.
@@tomdemay6147 i would agree if it wasn't for the fact that Michigan hired sherone moore as their head coach and sherone moore has been left with basically the protoges of everyone in that program that made it what it was. The future is very bright for michigan right now.
@@mrkennady its a fair point and I do like Moore but its still a very high bar. Lots of other teams have tried to replace guys and even if they next guy is good its very tough to replace a legend. It's not necessarily the guys already in the program but developing the future recruits and replacing coaches with Moore will have to do as well. Part of being a great coach is building great staffs which is easier said than done and something Harbaugh did very well but as these guys leave for promotions and such they have to be replaced. Like I said Moore also has to replace himself as OC and Oline coach. Will these guys be as good at developing fundamentals as Moore was? Will they be able to identify and scout and recruit in the "diamonds in the rough" the way Moore did? Again not saying they wont do that but I just think Michigan fans underestimate just how difficult it will be to keep what Harbaugh built going. One of the reasons I give Harbaugh alot of credit is I feel like he was instrumental in identifying these 3 star players. Not every 3 star is capable of becoming a stud, they have to be developed but the process really starts at identifying the right guys with the potential. I think Harbaugh is a great scout relative to other rival coaches or the guys that make the rankings etc. I think it's very optimistic view to expect Moore, who I do like as a coach, to continue doing this at the elite level Harbaugh did.
It's not sports if people aren't complaining. I don't have any complaints but I feel left out so I'm going to complain why you don't have my beloved Sun Devils in the top 10. Can't take your list seriously without them in the top ten, Josh why do you hate my Sun Devils?
You still did not explain how OSU is below Michigan.
Osu has better
Resources
Players
Coaching
Synergy
Indisputable wins recently
Recruiting
NIL
What does Michigan have over OSU other than Conor Stallions?
3 consecutive wins + conference titles + a national title
@@LateKickwithJoshPate As per my last line, Conor Stallions is involved in all that, so it does not count for a lick. If I stole a Lambo and bragged about having a better car than you, would it count?
As a big 12 fan, you’re being delusional if you think we have a team in the top ten programs. That being said, big 12 is the funnest conference.
Please don't get frustrated. College rankings, when it really comes down to it, are beauty contests. As they say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". One thing I learned is logic is irrelevant to the crowd. Safest is to use the principles of Aristotle when it comes to rhetoric. Trust, pain verse pleasure, cold logic. Note that logic 'ranks' dead last when trying to convince people. They follow those they trust first (trumping what is against self-interest), they will then follow what causes the least pain second, and then all things being equal you can apply logic last of all (which is only a coin flip to convince, because many can't follow an argument with evidence).
Just trying to be helpful.
I thought that was "beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."
@@dentonyoung4314 Is that based on the drunker you were, the prettier the women became?
@@stevelenores5637 Yes. Happened to a friend of mine when we were both young and stupid college students [mumble] years back. He ended up in bed with a woman that, when he sobered up and the hangover wore off, he told me "I would never have even looked at if wasn't drunk."
They've been happily married for a generation now and their two kids are in college.
That’s AWESOME, what a great “feel good” anecdote !
RTR
Josh, just curious for the reason that you have Alabama at #2 over MIchigan? You seem to be using the last three years when discussing Ohio State and Michigan but comparing UM and Alabama, you have UM in the playoffs 3 of 3 years and winning a championship. Meanwhile, Alabama only makes the playoffs 2 of 3 and no championships. You would have ended any OSU vs UM speculation if you'd put them at #2 and Bama at #3.
Bama had a much higher strength of schedule and Saban built a much more rock solid program/culture
Saying who you think will be the best teams preseason is the definition of predictive. And Josh if you think Michigan will be better than osu in 2024 put your money on it.
Ncaa did drop the hammer on Michigan
“B..b..b…but our recruiting rankings! And Michigan CHEATED!” - every Buckeye fan, probably
And they’d be correct on both points. Even with a stutter. Enjoy your descent back into irrelevancy, please remain delusional until the ride comes to a complete stop
I hate Ohio state but Michigan are such bitches. Harbaugh was about to be fired after a terrible season and this would’ve ruined his career basically so he decided to cheat and barely won even after getting fans to pay his players. I HATE OSU but they aren’t as much as bitches as Harbaugh and his wolverines
Look forward to his take on the fsu spring showcase if he has one to come out.
He probably wasn't invited
@@gnorley he's got a TV lol
@@blakenagy8399 He didn't stop there on his tour I wonder why
@@gnorley has them at 9 on top 10 programs....
@@blakenagy8399 I know but some FSU fans were really after him on Twitter probably why he didn’t swing by Tallahassee
Where does Tennessee fall in at in your rankings?
I can't believe Utah would be over Tennessee in a list like this, when at very least UT has won multiple 9 win seasons in the SEC, and been one of just a handful of teams in the last decade to beat Bama. Resources, coaching staff, etc all IMO better than even clemson, but especially a team that's only 3-4 in the PAC... I'd say we only maybe get in over oklahoma LSU and clemson on this list, but that is because we beat LSU, clemson has been super meh, and oklahoma had a flash but did it in a much weaker conference than our flash.
How is LSU above FSU? lol. 2-0 against lsu last two years. One was a blowout.
Ya, Notre Lame in the top 10 t.v. market but not THE top 10.
Notre Dame is definitely top 10. They haven't been great over the last 3 years, 5, years, 10 years, 15 years etc. They HAVE been very good and very consistent. Even in their worst "down" year such as Freeman first season when they were embarrassed losing to Marshall and Stanford they won 8 games. Basically a 9-3 or 10-2 team in the regular season for like 15 years. That is a top 10 team on the field, they are also top 10 in fan support, top 10 in revenue, top 10 in recruiting etc. Basically there is no aspect of a "program" that you can say Notre Dame is not a top 10 team in. You can argue they are lower half of top 10 in every area of this, but they are still solidly top 10.
The only thing I disagree with is certain things aren't equal. SEC'S lack of playing 9 Conference games (very top heavy no parity), the constant scheduling of 2-3 games all at home with 1 in November, while everyone else is playing Conference games. Next is outside of the occasional one-offs they rarely top to bottom travel to another P4's stadium (Florida just did it for the 1st time in like 20+ years). They are the only Conference that continuously gets a pass on these issues while everyone else is judged by the above metrics.
Would you care to compare quality the number of quality OOC wins that the SEC has with other conferences? It's not even close. No one plays Power 4 teams on the road. There just aren't that many teams that want to travel. As for the 9 vs 8 argument.......I'm still trying to figure out how playing fewer (or more) conference games helps or hurts a conference.
I love how people constantly try and say the sec is top heavy but if their team were to transfer to the sec they’d lose 5 games minimum every year. Take floridas schedule for example. Last 5 games of the year they play uga, Texas, lsu, ole miss, and fsu.
@@Postingam2 To prove your point just look at Mississippi St. and Kentucky last season. They were both also rans in the SEC but they beat Arizona and Louisville in 2023.....both of whom finished ranked in the final polls.
The SEC has had SIX schools win national titles since inception of BCS. In that same timeframe NO other conference has MORE than TWO schools. Yet it's the SEC that's top heavy. Do you know what that term even means?
SEC/acc have rivalry games against each other at end of season. Meaning it's not just SEC playing noncon games at end of season.
Here are some SEC @ P4 schools in the recent past. bama @ tex, LSU @ ucla, LSU # texas, ole miss @ GT, a7m @ miami, ark @ byu, aub @ penn state, ms state @ zona, uga @ GT, tenn @ Pitt,
cocks @ clem, ky @ louisville, fla @ fsu, fl @ utah, mizzou @ K state and vandy at wake. ALL 14 SEC teams present and accounted for with games in last couple of seasons @ P4 opponents home stadium. Doesn't even account for the early season neutral site games.
Having ND in there instead of OU is atrocious.
Last 3 years Notre Dame 30-8, Last 3 years Oklahoma 27-12. Recruiting is pretty close. I think its VERY CLOSE between Notre Dame and Oklahoma. Both have been teams that win 9 or 10 games regularly but haven't been able to take the next step. To say it's atrocious means you must really hate ND.
4:16 why would any of that help lsu if anything it makes it worse because lsu has more yet did less
lsu has two heisman winners in the last 5 seasons, they have multiple 1st round picks, play in a harder conference, better resources, better recruiting. what are you on about?
fsu was also in year 4 of mike norvell while it only kelly’s second year at lsu. I think if you give both coaches time to fully settle in and let their respective programs reach their maximum potential lsu is above fsu.
@@ImChazo this isn’t a prediction this is ranking them based off of their past performances
@@chicken_sandwich3377 ik but I’m saying lsu beats them in resources. I think even in year 2 under brian kelly LSU is able to produce higher level athletes (look at Jayden Daniels, Malik Nabers, Brian Thomas Jr, Will Campbell, etc.)
@@chicken_sandwich3377 every head coach that has been at lsu since 2000 has won a national championship. The same can’t be said for fsu.
I'm still trying to figure out how you have UGA above Bama when Bama has owned UGA even the past few years and the 1 win UGA does have was when Bama was injured and had already beat them the same year and then one of UGAs other Natties they got lucky and didn't even have to play Bama that year. You have no logical answer for that.
He quite literally said it was based on the last 3 years. Georgia has 2 losses in those 3 years and 2 national championships, one of them against Alabama. Not sure what you’re not understanding about that
Alabama just lost its coach. That means not only does Georgia have 2 of the last 3 championships (the window relevant to this) but with Saban and Harbaugh both gone there is no one in Smart league as the coach. So they also have the #1 coach in the sport.
Bahahahaha! Ok. Baby Yoda has 1 win in a same season redo game in the last 17 years. Jawja ain’t shit. Never have been and never will be. Don’t matter how many Bama disciples you hire. Also, Jawja played the weakest road and SEC Schedule in the Conference for the last 3 years straight. That BS is over now. Never compare Jawja to Bama, ever. You couldn’t hoist Bama’s nuts with a 1,000 ton crane.
@@5Tweezy meanwhile your progrum is on the fritz and slowly falling out of relevancy. Sad times in Tuscaloosa when your social media team is having to use a cross eyed drunk named Willie to keep people interested
@Postingam2 Yes and those 2 losses came to Alabama meaning Bama has owned them and they only won those 2 Natties because they beat an injured Bama team that had already beat them just a few weeks before when both teams were fully healthy and then didn't even have to play Bama the next year. They've had super easy schedules the past 3 years and whenever they play a healthy Bama team they get owned.
Wait, wait, wait... hold the phone there long ears.... the Big 12 is "America's football conference" ??
That's almost as dumb as claiming "You are not what your record says you are."
Almost. Not quite
You must not watch the channel much, he's been explaining it alot recently and it makes a ton of sense. They aren't top heavy, recruiting is pretty even, and they have to develop players for years instead of just poaching them from the portal like basically every school does on this list to maintain attempts at top 5 ranks.
He just says it's more of how classic CFB was 20 years ago, player loyalty and development and more even conferences.
Anyway I can't believe Utah would be over Tennessee in a list like this, when at very least UT has won multiple 9 win seasons in the freaking SEC, and been one of just a handful of teams in the last decade to beat Bama. Resources, coaching staff, etc all IMO better than even clemson but especially a pac 12 number 3-4 best. I'd say we only get in over oklahoma LSU and clemson on this list, but that is because we beat LSU, clemson has been super meh, and oklahoma had a flash but did it in a much weaker conference than our flash.
@@Nathan-ct9eh It is true, I don't watch his channel much. Every now and then his show comes up because the video I was just watching ended and I'm not at my computer.
Michigan over Ohio State is just plain wrong. New season. New roster. Nice try, Joel.
It took OU crapping away it's shot of winning the it's 15th Big 12 TITLE since 2000 by cratering it's shot against KU and OSU that had no business in being in Arlington and gave Texas it's easiest shot at a Big 12 title in 15 years Oh... that's right.. Since 2000 texas has only won 2 Big 12 titles prior to 2023 and that was due to OU graduating or declaring for the NFL a huge percentage of it's first team in the depth chart in 2004 and 2008 which led to two of Stoops worst season in 2005 and 2009 the 2 seasons rexas took it's only titles. While OU has won how many titles since 2000? This guy probably lives in Austin secretly hahahaha. It's hilarious how almost the entire longhorn fan base wanted Sarkisian fired after the loss in Dallas last year.. Sark had a wonderful shot at his only win in against OU after OU losing to KSU and TCU in 2022 prior to going to Dallas. And this all stared after TBOW took the future Heisman and few other 5 stars while he was already going to USC before he blew the bedlem game in Stillwater which kicked us out of Arlington and then killed us in 2022 with first year of Venables... other wise Saban would have had to get Sark of fthe unemployment line and bring him back to Bama to be rehabilitated 2 years ago,,,, I agree if you are looking at the last 5 OU doesn't belong in that list.. But to go off and have Texas at 5 for just 2023? You did research and look at Sark versus OU and he is 1-2 and like I mentioned texas win in 2022 in Dallas.. but did you look and see how texas did after that win? texas lost to a 7-6 OSU and a weak so called playoff team named TCU at DKR then lost it's bowl game, Did you even look at 2021 where texas went 5-7 or 7-3 in 2020 or 8-5 in 2019? How can you go with the last 5 season and texas losing 20 games from 2019-2022 and got beat again by OU in 2023 and it took OU tanking to let texas slide back in. One season gets them in the top 5?
how can a team that has lost to OU 4 of the last 5 seasons and lost a total of 22 games in your criteria be in the top 5?
remember.. this guy is the king of texas is back!..
if you look at rivals team rankings for the past 5 cycles and add up each yearly ranking for OU and Texas and average them out. Texas finished on a average at 1.8 spots per year ahead of OU...I guess your using how Texas can over pay to snack players as pat of your criteria.
Anyone who thinks Ohio state is ahead of Michigan is just dumb and blinded by recruiting rankings
That ttun is in for dark days, a decade of irrelevance coming for them. Coming off of a “natty*” those skunk weasels have the #56 ranked recruiting class😮 and it seems to be driving their coaches to drink
@@user-rl3fd7xo1m and Ohio state can recruit as many top 5 classes as they want but they still got out coached and outperformed by Michigan and I’m not even a Michigan fan
Michigan was on top but their legendary coach is gone, replaced with a dud. Imagine if Bama replaced Saban with Sherrone Moore.
@@someguy6212 doesn’t matter this isnt a prediction this is purely about what teams did in the past 3-4 years
@@chicken_sandwich3377 did you pay attention to the previous 20 years? Obviously not
LSU over Tennessee? Can't argue on the field. Can't argue program. Can't argue award winners. TN did all those things too, plus blew out LSU. Even played a harder schedule than LSU year in and out.
LSU is 233-78 in the 21st century, Tennessee is 165-125, and LSU has 3 national championships and 5 SEC championships to Tennessee's 0 and 0 in that time. So it's not hard at all hard to see how they are ranked ahead of you program wise. Only retarded Tennessee fans would even try to argue it.
Tennessee also lost to Florida. LSU has national championships under their last 3 coaches. LSU has a undeniable top 10 coach (who I hate but it is what it is). Tennessee is nowhere near the caliber of program LSU is. Tennessee fans irrational. Underachieving, undisciplined team until proven otherwise. Your coach is a joke. I'm not even a SEC fan I'm a Notre Dame fan but watching Tennessee clown coach crying while getting outcoached by Napier versus Florida last year was a disgrace. Heard all last offseason how great Milton was gonna be and he was all hype like Tennessee always is. Tennessee had ONE great year two years ago with Hooker at QB. Gave up like 70 points to South Carolina and got embarrassed. That is Tennessee ceiling when they luck into a superstar at QB. When they dont it's just average team. Tennessee should fall behind teams like Penn State and Utah on this list if we are being honest let alone comparing themselves to LSU.
@@tomdemay6147 100%. I'm not a fan of either school either, but it's not even close. LSU has won 3 national championships and 5 SEC championships in the 21st century compared to Tennessee's 0 and 0. Not to mention LSU's record in the 21st century is about 80 games better (233-78 for LSU to 165-125 for Tennessee). Tennessee fans are the most delusional fans in sports.
@@tomdemay6147 But LSU hasn't done any of that in the "last 3-4", which are the criteria for this video concept right? Just mediocrity carried by a great QB, and losing to UT..... You could argue the former for UT as well, but there's a head to head and IMO similar coaching and resources - so for them to be halfway up the list and UT not to be on it is a bit wild to me. Neither belong on it, but IMO you bump Clemson and LSU in favor of Ole Piss and ND, with Tenn and LSU outside and maybe Utah after that
I don’t think this segment is a good one. You move the goal post to much
Example of goal post moving?
@@Hookah_Hornssoooo Michigan beating Ohio State allows them to behead but FSU beating LSU doesn’t … that’s a goal post moved
@@d.weathers What I think you're missing is that it weighs multiple subjective variables, as JP has explained. It's not like beating OSU 3x is the only reason Michigan is ranked higher than them. They also won the natty, for example. If FSU won the natty and was recruiting like the top tier programs, I'm sure they'd be ranked ahead of LSU.
@@Hookah_Hornswell FSU has won their conference in the last 3 years has LSU done that? And okay you may have recruited better but what that get you ? 2 Loses in a row … now you’re moving the goal post it’s that simple. We’re splitting hairs here and the ice is broken by wins on the field which is FSU. I’m an Oregon fan so I don’t even care about either team but Josh moves the goal post when doing these rankings and this is just a segment he should get away from in my opinion.
@@d.weathers Cmon man, the acc is hot garbage. I'm a TX fan and have no dog in the fight either and I'd put lsu on top of fsu too.
You don't love the big 12. Old Miss stop it.
Man, ya'll are gonna be really shocked at just how poorly FSU will be this upcoming season. They'll get 8 games. They won't win 10 games total.
After watching that spring game they’ll be lucky to reach 8. That was pathetic
tough to say. I DO think FSU will take a big step back from last year regular season team. However it's still the weak ass ACC. Their non conference rival Florida is still a dumpster fire. Luckily for us, not for FSU they do at least draw Notre Dame as a "partial" ACC game so that makes the schedule a little tougher. But look at some of these ACC games they play. Boston College, SMU, Duke, Cal, North Carolina, Georgia Tech. Memphis, Florida, Charleston Southern in non con. Thats 9 very winable games right there. There two "tough" ACC games are Miami (who is big underachiever and choke artist type team) and Clemson (in tailspin / downward spiral with big question marks at QB and WR). So I think winning 10 is possible for them just because the schedule so soft.