WARNING: The ACC is in SERIOUS Trouble... | Conference Realignment | BIG10 | SEC | BIG12
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- The ACC is in big trouble. Their contract with ESPN, called the Grant of Rights, is supposed to protect the conference, but it has a lot of weaknesses. One major issue is that the contract might not be enforceable after 2021 because of the way it was handled by the former commissioner. Another problem is that the length of the contract is unclear because it contradicts itself in several places. Finally, Clemson just launched a legal attack that could be the worst one yet for the ACC. This video talks about these problems and more, but you’ll have to watch the next video to find out about the bombshell that Florida State just dropped.
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I really want to believe you (I’m a Clemson fan) but it really does seem like you make some of this up.
What are you struggling to believe? I’ll link the source.
I have personally believed that Swafford was acting in his own self interest for a long time, and not in the interests of the schools.
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Poor Cal, out of the frying pan, and into the fire
Haha!
Poor Cal Jumped off Lustitania just to jump on Titanic.
I fear a lot of what we consider big name schools will be in the similar boat.
John "Raycom Sports" Swofford ALWAYS got booed by Clemson Fans. Always.
I to (being a fsu fan)have developed a healthy dislike for the king of butt picking finger sniffer in the tab Rd area .
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You could make a video of how do you imagine a 20 teams b10,sec and big xii would look like.
I do not understand how the NC judge can disregard the vote requirement and then say it was ok because it was later ratified by some members when the agreement does not allow for that. I hope the FL judge see through the ACC's attempt to stack the deck in NC with a judge who is clearly in favor of the ACC. Why do I say that? Read the whole order.
Judge should have just said he would have tossed it out, but would have sided with the ACC on jurisdiction even if they had to refile because of other reasons outside of the vote. That is the truth to it…
As much as it looks like a win for the ACC I actually think it possibly becomes a win a for FSU to quickly move the case forward to the real meat of it perhaps before June 30th. As it was stated by Rohan Law if it was dismissed the ACC would turn around just to refile anyway and it would start over again. It may put some pressure on FSU to get things together quickly, but it appears the leaky holes are only getting bigger on the sinking ship of the ACC and the GOR anyway.
They had to wait for the other 3 to make another 2/3 because if the signing of the document is legit, having done so AFTER filing its fraud and all schools who signed can and should be sued for fraud. I highly doubt that document is legit.
The NC judge is treating the Noles just like ACC referees do.
case law in NC is why
Well if you include this march madness that just rnded ACC is lsughing at Big 12 basketball all i heard sll sradon was how big an deep big 12 basketball was. Yeah ACC had 3 trsms in the rlite 8 an Big 12.....0..... Yeah eonder how that fits in with ACC is frad.....
The SEC and BIG need to have their own two conference NFL minor league. Their "student athletes" are 99% athlete and 1% student anyway. Then let the others have a second tier with 8 conferences with the conference champions in a playoff. That is the ideal solution.
That may not be too far off from where we are heading. There does appear to be a "New D1" with a Fox & Friends B1G and ESPN SEC conference with 24 teams each.
Ha. Only Major Football schools in the big10 are Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. Schools should be paid on the amount of eyes (ratings) that their games produce. Not schools riding the coat tails of much more popular schools. That's why FSU, Clemson, NC are providing most of the ad revenue through the ACCs GOR. Should a school like Boston College get the same amount of revenue even though they produce 10% of the ad revenue through the GOR? That's Dumb.
@@paullouy3538 I'd add USC, Oregon, and Washington in there, but the key is what the people with the money (the TV networks) are doing.
@@paullouy3538 revenue share between schools benefits and strengthens any conference. it can help programs grow. but above a certain threshold, yes, the highest performing schools should keep more of the revenue they generate
A commissioner leaving a conference should be like a coach leaving a school. If a coach leaves a school players can transfer. If a commissioner leaves a conference universities can transfer.
You should be embarrassed for typing something so void of logic. I guess it sounded better in your head.
Dumbest comment ever…
2:21 the ol' Friends and Family Program. ha ha
Okay that cell phone analogy was one of the worst ones I've ever heard.
Fair enough!
There is a difference in reporting facts and spouting conjecture and speculation.
Find something we said that isn’t supported in a court filing.
😅😂😅😂 y'all sound and look like a bunch of sniveling 😭😭😭😭 baby 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡s!!
Just pay the 130 million, SHUT UP and move the F🤬 on!!
read the filings if you have the patience. all these allegations are made in the filings
I think people seriously misunderstand the stance every one has in this. ESPN is not really on the side of the ACC and they do not want to pay FSU and Clemson so little. It is not a bargain for them to stay. The networks run a business to make money the high payouts to the Power 2 are a reflection of the profits they make. They want FSU and Clemson to move and pay them money like an SEC/B1G school because that means they are also making the money themselves for 2 more schools on that level. Which also brings up the lack of understanding the true value schools have in this when being added. They don’t care whether the schools that get added average out seasons of 8-4 or 4-8 in the conference. Someone has to lose. They care if the season total for views on their games is closer to 10 million or 50 million. They care that a percentage of those 50 million viewers that are watching an noon kickoff are going to stay tuned in to watch the 3:30 game and 7:00 game because it’s good football and now in conference rivals that matter more. Might be pennies on the dollar, but it takes only 20 nickels to equal 100 pennies.
ESPN would be taking a huge gamble siding with fsu and Clemson on this. As of rn, ESPN makes money off them, if they both leave and go the big$0, they don’t. If they try to make some shady behind-the-scenes deal, well that’s not exactly legal..
So why did (if they did) FSU sign the agreements in 2016 & 2021?
the question is, did they get what they were promised by those contracts?
teams were told that ESPN said "agree or leave" for the extension. was there enough time to leave when that "offer" was extended? and were the assertions made by the ACC to the schools true at that time? did the teams agree to extend E$PN's option? did the ACC breach its contracts with its member schools?
Every time he says “grant of rights” I hear “grain of rice” I swear
Subliminal messaging. We are psyops 😎
8:40 Clemson's ninja
Love the ninja reference
The inevitable breakdown would only involve Florida State and maybe Clemson. Other teams would have to work out their own solutions. If enough teams stay there is the possibility of a Big 12 repeat. If not, then it's the Pac 12 all over again
Too many teams have spots in BIG10 and SEC for big12 reboot
The B1G and the SEC only picked/accepted the best parts of Big 12 and the Pac 12.
FSU, Clemson, and maybe UNC and Virginia. None of the privates and none of the secondary state schools like NCState, Pittsburgh, GaTech and VaTech.
As a B1G alumnus none of the ACC, Big 12, etc. intrigues me. There is only a single team and they hold enough cachet to allow them to select a dance partner be it Stanford or someone else.
@@fecat93 I don’t think any conference that includes Rutgers in its membership has any right to call any team that has a pulse in football “not good enough for us”. Give me a break…
It was pretty obvious once ESPN signed the huge deal with the SEC and forced the SEC to take UT & OU to help recoup their investment that their deal with the ACC would be coming to an end. Why would ESPN fund 2 conferences? I don't know all the ins and outs of the ACC TV deal, but I do know that ESPN is going to consolidate their major spending in the SEC, and Fox/CBS/NBC will do the same for the B1G. We are going to end up with 2 "New D1" conferences of 48 teams, we may have an intermediate step of 3 conferences with 20 teams each, with 2 "power" conferences in the B1G and SEC and a lessor one in the Big 12, but within 5 years, probably closer to 3 years, the Big 12 will be raided and killed off too.
Why would they kill off the B12? Its full of profitable schools for both ESPN and Fox. Would they prefer to pay some schools more by adding them to the B10 or SEC and relegate the remainder to g5? Paying more for something you're already getting for less and losing customers does not make sense.
@@secretagent73 Money. ESPN can consolidate 90% of their funding to 24 schools and Fox can consolidate 90% of their funding into 24 schools, and CBS and NBC can put all into 24 schools and make a massive investment and still save money.
Let me help here. ALL of the SEC and B1G aren't valuable entities. ESPN and other broadcasters, just have to take the good with the bad. People will tune in to watch the biggest draw programs. Those programs that suck at football and aren't really trying, get gifted money from the same pot. The SEC and B1G has many more relevant programs. The ACC has at most, two programs that people will tune-in to watch, . Unfortunately, Clemson has been propping up that conference (consistently) for years. Yet they have to share their return on investment with programs within the ACC, that are standing around with their hands out, while generating negative revenue. That is Clemson and FSU's issue. That the other programs are getting the same payout... for not trying.
@@timkinley1779 FSU and Clemson’s problems are the TV deal that will see UCF get more money and half of what B1G and SEC teams get and that the networks will ensure their conferences have the best seats at the playoff table.
@@raleighsanford5111 Hard to follow what you typed. None of your points make sense to being Clemson and FSUs biggest problem. Clemson and FSU are just fine if they didn't have to share an equal amount of the revenue, with teams that don't generate value. The CFP is it's own entity. The rules for entry are complete under the new format. Of course, if you're full fandom, then you'll always think your team is getting screwed if they aren't getting favorable treatment.
Naa, everyone in the ACC thinks they are waaay better than the Big 12, so they're fine. Actually they're in great shape--and unified.
She gone.
Why don't acc just let members out...if team don't want to be in they should be able to leave....acc is killing its self.
They can leave, (and good riddance), $500 million and you can go where ever your heart desires. Preferably straight to hell…
I don't think the ACC is in danger of cracking the way the PAC12 did, but it could be severely weakened. If some of their bigger schools left, then they would likely try to backfill with schools like South Florida, East Carolina, Memphis, Tulane, Washington State, Oregon State, UNC-Charlotte, UCONN, etc.
The problem there is why would the networks give that ACC a decent contract? That was the downfall of the PAC, no network wanted to give much of a TV deal.
@@raleighsanford5111 I agree with you that the ACC would be less valuable to the networks in the scenario that they lost big schools like FSU and Clemson, but I still think the ACC would still be positioned to survive as an entity and try to backfill with replacement schools.
There is no backfill coming. The house of ACC is being burned to the ground and the ashes scattered. It's over.
@@raleighsanford5111 $$ doesn’t matter near as much in basketball as it does in football. What kind of media contract do you think UConn gets from being in the big east?
@@user-ed8gb2fq9g This is true, but football TV deals drive the wagon. It is all academic, the ACC is on the verge of breaking up and in another 3-5 years, the networks will raid the new Big 12 which will have 2 to 4 of schools in the ACC now.
Again this is assuming that all that ESPN money will always be there. If Disney, which isn’t in the best financial shape, offloaded ESPN and the money went away it will be a mess.
My question is, once the ACC dissolves (which it will: that's now inevitable), what happens to teams like Duke, Pitt and wake Forest? Will they go independent, or maybe join a G5 conference?
Pitt may make the 48 school roster in the B1G or SEC, but Duke and Wake Forest will go the way of Washington State and Oregon State, so will Stanford, Cal and probably others.
@@raleighsanford5111You actually think Pitt would get into the power 2 before Stanford? Yeah, I don't see that happening. First, Stanford would probably be added to the B1G once Notre Dame decides it's ready and go as a partner and give the B1G an extra team out west. Pitt is no use to the B1G, they have Penn St. Which makes Pitt redundant. The SEC could add Pitt to get into the region, but I have to imagine Pitt is way down on its wishlist.
@@troywest7045 Fox already said they weren't interested in Stanford or Cal last year & they are the ones making the decision on who goes to the B1G.
After ND, FSU, Clemson, and Miami are off the table, it is anyone's guess who goes where, but based on the previous paragraph, it won't be a school in the pacific time zone and maybe not the mountain time zone.
@@troywest7045 Fox and ESPN already said they weren't interested in Stanford or Cal for that matter. After ND, Clemson, Miami, and FSU, whomever makes the cut is anyone's guess, but it won't be a pacific time zone school and maybe not a mountain time zone school.
I'd imagine Pitt falls to the Big 12 given the history with them between WVU and to a lesser extent Cincy. And besides the rivalries they give both of those schools a break on travel costs. WVU is 90 minutes away so that's a bus ride. One they have to make every time they travel because Pittsburgh international is the closest major airport to them. Cincy I'd imagine would also be a bus ride, it's 4.5-5 hours from Pittsburgh, but Even if it's a plane ride it's a short one.
But the SEC would have to be desperate to make inroads into B10 territory or be petty by taking a school in B10 territory or both.
B10 gains nothing other than having 2 of the 3 Div 1 PA teams. Maybe if they expand to 30 Pitt gets an invite, but Even then probably not.
This needs to be resolved sooner rather than later, too many universities involved, these universities need to know, and plan for their future
Agree. Expect resolution prior to June 30,2024
@wvgolfnut1 I think some universities are already making plans. There is a rumor going around that a couple of ACC schools reached out to the Big 12. There is probably a lot more going on behind the scenes than we realize.
@@CFBAddiction dream on…
I am a FSU fan i don't think the ACC teams are not good at Football that is why they're not getting money in the 1st place and now that the 2 top football programs leave no way ESPN extends the deal they will be on channel 5 after this
Acc was always meant to be a basketball first conference. The worst thing they ever did was let fsu in in the first place, wtf does fsu offer there? Even in this modern day it is possible to have a decent, even great, college basketball program. How much do you think UConn gets for being in the big east?
Thanks for covering. Yes bad agreement. Hope the courts decide soon.
They won't. Courts don't work fast
Thank you!
After FSU, Clemson, and ND, the next most valuable programs are in the Big12 not the ACC. Granted the Big10 probably wants NC. But if FSU and Clemson go to the BIG10, I don’t see the SEC wanting anyone else. They get to play 8 games and make tons of money. If they add the next most valuable which would be TCU and OSU, they don’t add ratings draw. The whole point is so that the SEC has a stacked schedule. For example, Texas will play Alabama, OU, LSU, UF, Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee in the same year. It’s a ratings bonanza. Adding TCU and OSU would be good, but would it be great?
The SEC would take UNC in a heartbeat.
@@unc0mm0n2 unless it is a package deal with NC State
@@unc0mm0n2 But if I had the arrogance and snootiness of UNC, I would think I belong in the B1G. My option is to get my brains bashed in by every SEC team I play or play a few hard teams in the B1G. Now, I may not have one of those fancy educations from such AAU research schools, but I do know $100 million the B1G is offering each conference member is a lot more than the $65 million offered by the SEC to their schools. UNC better start talking to its lawmakers to unbind them from NC State. As a matter of fact, UNC should help NC State try to find a home in the Big 12. The SEC doesn't need anymore teams in the conference risking diluting the media payout per school. This is a business, not a charity.
@@unc0mm0n2 🤷🏻♂️ maybe. UNC would probably rather go to the Big10. And NCState is the anchor around their neck. Once that obstacle is removed then maybe the SEC. I don’t see that the SEC wants NCstate or UNC because it’s not a ratings draw. No one gives a Sh to watch UNC vs Anyone. Might as well be Vanderbilt. Now change the name to NCState and the ratings are even lower. So SEC… I don’t know. Are we building a ratings money monster or opening an orphanage? SEC wants big matchups because big matchups make prime time money. NCstate and UNC or OKstate and TCU, which will make more money? Answer: they are only interested in Clem, ND, FSU.
The original post is absurd. What metric are you using to evaluate the value of a program? Or is this just your belief without any facts or stats to back out up?
The 2 things I believe dictate a programs value is total athletic revenue (meaning a teams actual fan engagement and support) and tv viewership, which will aid in a conferences' attractiveness in future tv deals. This will create a Venn diagram allowing you to see what teams are actually the most desirable, if one were to agree with my logic.
According to Nielsen ratings... outside of OU & TX, there aren't any Big12 programs on their top 32 list. However, incoming Big12 programs Colorado & Utah are on the list. However, there are 5 ACC teams on the list. FL St. at #9, Clemson (#19), Miami (22), Duke (23), & Louisville (29).
According to USA Today, the top 25 revenue earning college athletic programs for the 2022 - 2023 season was... again, outside of OU & TX, there are no Big12 programs listed. There are 4 ACC programs listed. The #1 ACC program is Virginia (14), followed by Florida St (15), Clemson (17), & Louisville (23). The rest of the list comprises SEC & B1G programs, or soon to be in those leagues.
To me, it looks like Virginia & Louisville are more than meets the eye. Something I wouldn't have thought.
HOOK EM
Where would Clemson go
Big10
Love love love your videos,,,buttttt,, give us more prospective, what's the SEC AND B1G contracts look like?
It's not just the ACC that is screwed. It's college football that is screwed. They will still play a form of football, but it will not be college football.
Nah, college football will be fine. ACC will be gone or merged with BIG12.
This is about return on investment. Watching college football (on a broadcast) is a different business than ticket sales. People really want to watch relevant programs play on TV. Nobody wants to watch irrelevant teams play. I damn sure don't. We can get on a soapbox and proclaim "the sky is falling". But it isn't. The way is it shaping up, the networks and big-time programs are starting to cut the fat out. They are tired of sharing revenue with programs that aren't really trying. Hopefully, one day, we'll get tons of two relevant teams per game. Time to reward programs that have their shit together. Not incentive the ones that don't.
@@CFBAddiction I think you’re missing the point. Your version of college football will be college football in name only, even if you’re right about the ACC. The way things are going, I would rather just tune out or watch nfl instead until basketball season and I don’t think I’m alone there.
The Big 12 wasn't in serious trouble when Texas and Oklahoma announced they were leaving. That means Clemson and Florida State could leave the ACC and the ACC would be just fine like the Big 12 was.
To be clear, there are more schools in the ACC than FSU and Clemson which are valuable to the big10 and sec. The math makes it inevitable they are leaving. This video covers the only real hurdle other than the exit penalty, which is peanuts compared to the money they make on the other side.
Apples and bowling balls. ACC is divided into teams good enough for others to want and weak sisters. Big 12 did not really have weak sisters or teams higher-paying conferences want. Just decent programs that took turns being good. Every valuable brand in the ACC will be looking for a ticket out so they are not one of those stuck with the weak sisters.
@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 Big 12 doesn't have weak sisters????? Houston, UCF, Cincinnati, BYU, Colorado, and Arizona State are the sisters of the poor.
@@Patrick-sg7cm CO is a state flagship school. BYU has a built-in nation-wide fan base, AZ State is a huge state campus, 50,000 students in a big TV market. UCF is even bigger and in a bigger TV market in a football talent and fan hotbed. Cincy was a playoff team a few years ago, and Houston is another large campus in a gigantic TV market and talent pool in a place where people love football. They have the potential to be a giant. Any of them are twice the size of and better than Wake and BC and still much larger and a better deal than Syracuse.
@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 Wake Forest = Baylor and Boston College = TCU
Sounds believable. Not going to do like some and rip you for what you are saying. If you are correct you will gain a lot of followers. Go Clemson Tigers!!!!!!
Appreciate.
It sounds like FSU will withdraw as early as the 2025 season with at most a penalty negotiating starting point of around 90 million, or none at all if other arguments win out. Goodbye ACC and hello Big Ten (hopefully) for Florida State, Clemson, Miami, and maybe a Georgia Tech or Pitt, Utah, and, if they get off the dime, Notre Dame. That’s our 24.
I think if you get your way college sports (esp football, maybe less so in basketball) will become A LOT less popular and will severely damage the sport in the long run. ESPN and Fox are all about the $$, they don’t care, but the average college sports fan has no idea what they are rooting for…
@@user-ed8gb2fq9g I have no way. It’s not about “my way”. These changes are the result of the law and court cases. The NCAA keeps losing them because of antitrust reasons. They would need an exemption from Congress to win them. Congress isn’t going to give it to them. The media deals are driving conference and school compensation. Those (media deals) are based upon public viewers. It has nothing to do with any person or conference trying to impose anything. It’s about adapting to the legal and market realities. That is what is driving the changes. The players, legally, have to be compensated for their role in bringing millions upon millions of dollars to the conferences and schools for playing as they do. A full ride scholarship isn’t adequate considering the amount of dollars in revenue. These changes are totally driven by the law and by the marketplace. Nobody (individual) is going to be able to change that reality. It’s not just a sport, it’s a business. Adapt, or lose out. Eventually there will be a Tier 1 of teams/schools that are part of big time college football. Then there will be a Tier 2 that isn’t that can no longer compete. They’ll have separate conferences and playoffs, or drop football.
@@mark8337 I don’t disagree, it’s now more business than sport. That makes it lose its appeal to me and others over “professional” sports. They shouldn’t even call it college sports anymore as it has absolutely nothing to do with education. I wouldn’t even care if it was just football, but it’s not. In the end, capitalism corrupts all…
Obiden and friends must love this kind of 'judge' eh.
ACC lead counsel meets FSU's lead counsel for first time in person (bahaha) ruclips.net/video/1Mtj_rv3mEc/видео.htmlsi=HlY7aEROaU_F3olE
ACC should do what big 12 did.. already have cal and stanford coming in . Is cl3mson and fsu leave.. consider Uconn and Temple natural rivalries... And send out feelers for tulane, s.florida. oregon st and Washington st.. for home and home with standford and cal...
Any team of value will end up in the BIG, SEC and Big 12. Stanford and Cal will most likely go independent in football and WCC in other sports and lower end teams will be regulated to the AAC. The ACC will die.
Temple doesn't put enough into fb. Memphis and USF would be next in line for ACC invite. Memphis is now owner of Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium and are beginning a 2-year $220 million renovation next month. They wouldn't be doing that if they didn't have some kind of backdoor deal with the ACC should they lose FSU and/or Clemson or more.
Noone is going to watch 2-4 auburn vs 2-4 south Carolina... Or 3-3 Texas vs 1-5 ole miss. Or 0-4 Penn St vs 1-3 Iowa... You can bag on conferences all you want .. March madness is great not because of conferences... NFL isn't great because of conferences... NBA isn't great because of conferences, soccer isn't great because of conferences.....
@@seanevans9329 That made no sense.
Wishful thinking from an FSU fan. Maryland also sued the ACC over the same issue and lost. Also lost the appeal. They eventually paid a 50 million dollar exist fee to get out of the ACC so they could join the Big Ten. Afterwords the ACC raised the exit fee and tightened the legal language and the league voted on it. No matter how much yelling and squirming Florida State and Clemson do. They are not going anywhere unless they pay a fortune to get out.
Maryland left the ACC prior to the grant of rights existence. Appreciate you sharing your uninformed opinion though 😎
Actually Maryland only had to pay 31 million of the 50 million dollar exit fee. The ACC settled out before the actual court case went full throttle. Reports I’ve seen have also suggested those that leave will probably have to pay close to the same 58 percent of the actual ACC’s numbers. Who knows at this point.
Nobody wants fsu to stay. Honor the contract you signed and go away. So long, no tears shed. The only reason they were invited was to lift up football in the ACC (mistake) obviously because they offer absolutely nothing else.
@@user-ed8gb2fq9g I'm a Maryland Alum and loved the old ACC. I retired and moved to North Carolina just before Maryland left. No one saw it coming and I was pretty mad at the time. The plan was to go to a couple of games a year, since I live just an hour south of Raleigh. When wearing my Terps hat around I was treated by some like a traitor, but most folks are nice and ask me if I'm happy we left. Now that the ACC is imploding, and we are getting north of 100 million a year from the Big Ten. Hell, yes, I'm happy. When the ACC realigned, we were told that we would play Duke and Carolina once every couple of years. Our new assigned rival was Pitt! That didn't go to well with any Maryland fan. I never liked FSU because to me, not being a member of the AAU, they could get away with lower recruiting standards and it's not considered to be a good school to begin with. I miss the old rivalry games against Carolina, Duke, NC State, and Virginia, but the new lineup in the Big Ten has me excited!
I guess we will see if these ACC teams are competitive in their new conferences.....
If either Clemson or FSU had a schedule as easy as Michigan's was last year, they would do just fine.
Soon, another conference will bite the dust!
These are irrational and biased arguements. The GOR is the same as it has been for all conferences that had a GOR, including the Big 12 which Texas and Nebraska, and Texas A&M and MIssouri all had to wait until the GOR was near the end of the contract and still had to pay millions of dollars to get out. Texas and Oklahoma both paid $50 Million to get out of the Big 12 just 1 year before the Big 12 GOR ends. This entire analysis is based on false logic because his analysis is not comparable because each are following the language in the contracts of each case. So, the real logic is that he is proving that FSU and Clemson would have to follow the plain language of the contract which means they have to pay hundreds of millions to get out early. This is really nothing more than click-bait.
Appreciate you weighing in. Check back with us when then is all over Gary. 🤝
Dude has been saying the same stuff for months. And nothing has happened.
Even if 8 teams leave they have a solid base of 10 schools. Add OSU, WSU out West and you have 12 schools.
I don't understand why so many people view these podcasts and so few hit the like button ?
Let me fix that.
Hit the like button AND comment, both are important.
Mostly because all this shit is bs. He keeps throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. He has no idea what he’s talking about..
Nobody really knows and if you dont respect his opinion/speculation you should stay in the basement.@@user-ed8gb2fq9g
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np Yeah, but I ain't messin with that alarm bell
FSU, Clemson, and whomever else had better get used to years of long cross-country trips to Palo Alto, Berkeley and Dallas. You aren’t going anywhere!
The ACC is DOA! Sorry peeps, this conference is done!
Why don't these schools get off their butt's and vote, what is taking so long?
The problem is and always was that a certain amount of votes are needed to do anything and more ACC programs than not benefit from being in the ACC ... The ACC as is might be a bad deal for FSU and Clemson as well as two of three others but from programs like Georgia Tech or Duke an the rest of the majority it's a massive payday ... The ACC pays out roughly 30 to 40 million a year in TV rights and the thing is most ACC programs aren't worth anywhere near that amount of money as sporting brands they only get that kind of a payday due to the top 2 to 5 programs being valuable enough make the entire conference look attractive to TV partners most these programs don't have enough open market value to guarantee that they would keep making 30 to 40 million outside of the ACC ... So their gonna try to keep the ACC as is at all costs
@@ddcs0s this whole thing needs to be decided before June.
@@paulbegansky5650 I agree but I'd also argue this whole thing needed to be dealt with years ago and here we are ... It's just a big mess at this point and I think FSU and Clemson will be fine the SEC and or B1G will take them and in the end they'll be alright but everyone else is screwed and it's entirely every single one of their faults because had FSU agreed to switch to a pay grade system like FSU asked last year they and Clemson wouldn't be trying to leave and the ACC would be fine even if it meant the less valuable teams taking the justified pay cut ... It's not greedy to ask for the money you're bringing in the greed has been programs in the ACC that don't generate 10M a year thinking their entitled to a 30M pay out while doing nothing to elevate their athletic departments and now they want to be mad because the programs that were getting screwed got tired of it ... They hid behind contracts instead of trying to fix the problem FSU wasn't even asking for SEC or B1G money they just said they wanted more than half their value
@@ddcs0s Sounds like the Pac12.
@@DaninVa-gt9nj No the PAC12's entire was they couldn't get a TV deal and the B1G wanted to move West and willing to take the top 4 PAC programs ... The PAC wasn't trying to hold anyone hostage their situation didn't involve them going out of their way to hurt one of their members and as someone who lived in CA for 20 plus years I can tell you at minimum Cal and Stanford would have taken pay cuts to keep UCLA and USC
I’m not sure I agree with this pod interpretation of the grant of rights. It’s very complicated.
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts
lol😊
I watched this guy out of curiosity for a couple of weeks and clearly he is full of crap.
💩🤝
My only thought is that we saw the exact same thing on that video 2 weeks ago.
This dude still crying
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Some of you people are so naive. Every team signed the GOR.. twice. No one, including FSU is going anywhere for years. This guy even admitted that on another podcast. Yet here you are hanging on every word. He's going to be making these same conference realignment videos every off season for years.
Check back with us before June 30, 2024. 🤝
I'm afraid you're the one that is naive... this is all about one thing, MONEY. Any team in the ACC that cares about their football program knows they MUST get out of the ACC, or else die a slow financial death. So FSU and Clemson have made it clear they are out...NO MATTER THE COST... and the other 5-6 teams will follow, NO MATTER WHAT. The price to get out, IF there ends up being one, (which is not certain), will be financed over many many years, and will be paid by the increase in income of getting into a REAL conference.
If there was a document that had all schools signed, the ACC would have made it public to shut everyone up. When you keep a document locked up tighter than Fort Knox and nobody is allowed to see it, that is fishy.
@edwardhughes9024 what was redacted the judge ordered be restored for the public to see before 15 April, 2024? Could it just possibly be information contrary to the Grant of Rights keeping members in the conference?
Troll!
FSU IS CHOOSING TO BLOWUP THE ACC🤬
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@joecartwright9221 I'd say ESPN is blowing up the ACC and FSU is either being proactive or working with ESPN as they are about to be a part of the ESPN conference. Either way, the networks are killing CFB, not the universities.
swofford and certain other corrupt tobacco road homies blew up the acc