Eric, Mike has been my favorite guest you've had, for sure. The way he explains the body mechanics really conveys the WHY behind all your other great advice.
Absolute game changer for me...casting/flipping has been an issue for me for years but since completely overhauling my swing pre xmas and drilling this "new" swing thought for me, my ball striking has never been so pure and consistent...Great advice and great video as always.
@@CogornoGolf I taped myself at range last night and noted how short my right arm was at the top (in close - Not behind) any good drills to get that right arm back.. would the down the wall drill then help the downswing to create the feel of dropping (shallowing)?
Eric - you continue to amaze me with your content. I sound like a broken record, but your explanations are so succinct and really convey the information the aspiring golfer needs. The guests you bring on are excellent. I love this particular video. We hear so many conflicting points of view on this point of forearm rotation. This clears any questions one might have regarding the modern golf swing.
This is one of your videos that really helped my ball striking quite a bit. The feel I use is the thought of “keeping my hands quiet”. Once I do that on the takeaway I just make sure I finish and swing all the way through to my finish (another one of your great videos).
You are all bloody good when it's a professional showing you what to do, just take a second, minute whatever and get a high handicap player trying to show you how to swing a golf club, all RUclips golfers have a pure knack of swinging a golf club, sorry for input of most RUclips golf lessons
THANK YOU FOR THIS! Last year I was playing some of my best golf with the feel in mind of right palm to the sky at the top of the backswing and shot my best ever score of 87, I had an injury and forgot all about it, I’m getting to the range tomorrow and getting it ingrained again! 50 seconds in and I’ve already learned more than my last £50 lesson haha
Eric I watched the videos with Mike Malaska they have been great the one thing I had trouble with was bringing the left hip back through impact until I watched a Rory McIlroy describing his swing that when he comes to impact he said I get my left knee out of the way and back and it became so much easier for me hey I know these are old videos I hope your on vacation enjoying yourself because you deserve thanks for the videos as always .
my god the way that mike malaska breaks down all this stuff on like the biomechanical sort of level is just so incredibly useful for me, as a slightly OCD, feels-oriented, headcase of a golfer. i've literally gone out there and done things like just standing on the range and messing with my grip for 15 minutes trying to feel how it affects the comfortable range of motion for arms / shoulders / wrists / etc. forever, and while it feels like it could be a superpower in the right hands, for me i find it very hard to draw conclusions and/or learn from these insights without being *insanely* focused (which does happen from time to time, mercifully, but not at a level that i can sustain as a complete dilletante making stuff up on the fly like an 18th century scientist working from my own personal home laboratory). i mean, mike doesn't need *me* to tell him that he is a great teacher (he's like a Golf Magazine Top 50 instructor, or something, i guess-- no surprise), but it just gives me heart that there are people out there who break stuff down in this way. and that is to take nothing away from Eric either-- there is a reason that i have gravitated toward this amazing channel, and it's not just because of the amazing "inquisitive amateur" affect that Eric puts on in these videos where he has great guests like this. i have learned *tons* from this channel, and expect to learn (and/or forget and re-learn, and/or misunderstand-and-then-finally-learn) soo much more going forward. as someone who is an absolute grinder, finding clear, first-principles content like this to take with me to the range is just so unbelievably valuable-- it feels like highway robbery to be getting it for free! xD (i do plan on reaching out to get more personalized instruction in the future, when i feel like i am plateauing, rather than feeling like i'm learning 100 things every day, but suffice it to say that the gratitude and feeling of goodwill that comes from having such an amazing resource... it's not something that can be fully repaid. but hopefully an over-long youtube comment on a 6 month-old video can do at least *some* justice =D ).
Every example that Mike gave regarding the wrist in other sports was spot on…. Except the bowling one. No good bowler tosses a bowling ball like that. But we definitely got the idea of what he was saying.
Great video series. Correct me if I’m wrong… Mike’s sort of on his own with his wrist angle strategy. I’d say most if not all other RUclipsrs “set” wrists differently (90 degrees differently) at the top of the back swing.
Thank you, Joe! Having the wrist set at or close to 90* at P3 (lead arm parallel in backswing) is a nice checkpoint to start with! Check this video out for more details: ruclips.net/video/vGqZJjnDA0Q/видео.html
Look at the supination / pronation graphs of the top pros . Contrary to Malaska statement , they pronate their lead forearm going back after the end of the takeaway and then supinate their lead forearm in the latter stages of the release. While they also flex their lead wrist going back and extend it late in their downswing , flexion of the lead wrist is far from enough to close the clubface at impact .
Hey Dave! Yep! Of course there are FEELs and REALS...which is PART of this. There is ALWAYS a healthy amount of supination of lead arm in downswing....whether we feel it or not... If the face is more tilted down (a la Viktor Hovland model) e would just see LESS of that lead arm supination compared to someone with face less tilted down (like me :) )
Hi Eric, excellent video as always . i had not played for months, the drill helped cause i just swung a bit and just focused on half swings but throw. I just have a question, while it was excellent for my driver and iron/wedges…how do I adjust the right hand throw for hybrids and wood? I keep getting left to right shots . Thanks
Hey! Love it! All things equal NOTHING would change for those clubs.....so I can't say for sure why you are getting LEFT shots only with those without seeing. Send videos to www.cogornogolf.com so we can see and diagnose OR find a good coach to get with in person. Should not be a hard fix!
What Mike described about twisting your wrist while throwing a ball is exactly why a breaking pitch in baseball travels at a lower velocity than does a fastball (in general. There are some freaks, like Dwight Gooden, who were able to throw a breaking pitch as fast as other pitcher's fastball velocity)
Hey there! You might enjoy checking these videos out for more details on the lead arm/hand action: ruclips.net/video/3pW6O_YHdPI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/BlZriUpP7Ns/видео.html Let us know if you have any questions! Thanks for watching!!
Eric, this wrist position makes me pull the ball left. Not a draw, but an actual pull. I have to weaken my right hand grip substantially to prevent a pull. It’s almost like I’m flipping the club upon release. Any thoughts?
Hey Brad! Without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much. Send us your swings at www.cogornogolf.com so we can do a full analysis and put together a personalized practice plan! Would love to work together on your game! Hope to see you there👊 Thank you for watching!
Such a great video. I am fighting through this exact issue as my current swing is much more like his “old” swing with the roll. Question: at this 3:53 mark in the video I have a “chicken vs the egg” problem in that I feel like I have to roll forearms to get my shoulder to externally rotate. This then opens club face and sets me up for having to time the flip right. Is there a drill for fighting that rolling feeling and still getting your shoulder externally rotated at the top? Thank you for all the killer content
Thanks for your support my friend! I think mixing the concepts from these videos should be a great start👍 ruclips.net/video/piTRlky6G84/видео.html ruclips.net/video/6OapTjdg0qk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/lr8JV6ShmRI/видео.html Hope these help!
Hey Eric I would love to get your thought on something. I think there is a misconception when people hear "palm down" relating to the face being closed. I think they think that palm down means down relative to the ground rather than palm down relative to the arc of the swing. Palm down relative to the ground would in fact result in a face closed relative to the arc. In my opinion the correct mindset is palm down relative to the arc. Would love your thoughts. Thanks.
In another video (one on the Joe Nichols Looping the Club) Mike advises us to start the backswing by pushing the handle down to leverage the clubhead up with the left wrist hinge. I'm not sure how this left wrist action is compatible with the right wrist action he describes here for the backswing?
Update: I had some promising results with this (Eric's Holy Grail video) at the range. Focusing on nothing other than the left wrist, I simply thought: "Cup, then bow." So, for the backswing I 'cup' (well, I think it's actually radial deviation or hinge) my left wrist in the knowledge that this gets a steeper shaft angle and has it going up more outside rather than rolled inside the hands. And for the downswing, I 'bow' (flexion) my left wrist in the knowledge that it flattens the shaft angle and puts it more inside the hands coming down. It's a bit odd in that there was a pause at the top of my backswing where I was transitioning from the former wrist condition to the latter. But my shots (5 iron off a low tee) were pleasing. Thanks, Eric.
I like this video. However the ball has a tendency to go left with the strong grip. On trac man I am swinging inside out so for some reason my club face is closed going left. Any thoughts?
Thanks for watching! Without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much my friend. Send in your swings to www.cogornogolf.com so we can dive in, do a full analysis and build you a custom practice plan! Hope to see you there!
So, is Mike saying that you don't really need to twist the club face down as you approach impact if you maintain your wrist angles throughout? Assuming you rotate and keep your hip depth, of course.
Hey there! Yes, if you keep the club face slightly closed to the shaft on the way back and down, you wouldn't need to necessarily add conscious twisting of the wrist angles and shaft because your club face is already good to go. A lot of golfers twist the wrist angles and shaft and get the club face way open to the shaft, consciously or unconsciously, and they would be great candidates for the twist away method as seen in the video below to square the face up: ruclips.net/video/lr8JV6ShmRI/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf love your channel. been an avid follower for some time now. Just a question on this method. If you keep the club face closed on the back swing and down, how different will the release (after impact) be as opposed to the conventional twisting method?
I can get the right wrist in correct positions halfway back and at top of swing. But at last parallel on downswing my clubface toe is usually pointing up or even more open. Having trouble getting right palm to face back down. Any advice?
Hey Eddie! Without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much. Send your swings in at www.cogornogolf.com so we can dive in and give you the best possible advice and practice plan!👊 This one may help you to get started: ruclips.net/video/fCW9W_lGQtM/видео.html Hope to see you there!
Hey there! You can learn to control the club face if you start short and slow and build your way up! Here are a couple of videos you might like to check out: ruclips.net/video/fCW9W_lGQtM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/lr8JV6ShmRI/видео.html Thanks so much for watching the channel!
Deserve it , I rush typing as always or if someone reads my response with the bad grammar man all those Catholic schools down the drain I wasted so much money lol
This is completely wrong, just look at Tiger Woods and Adam Scott to understand that the movement of the wrist and hand is another, and it's exactly what Malaska says not to do and which instead must be done.
Malaska makes a lot of sense. He's a credit to the game. Thanks for having him on your channel Eric.
Mike is awesome! Appreciate your support, John!
Thanks Eric for sharing this series you did with Mike! You two are like fine wine together 😂! Very helpful vid lessons! 👍
Eric,
Mike has been my favorite guest you've had, for sure. The way he explains the body mechanics really conveys the WHY behind all your other great advice.
Mike is the best! Appreciate you watching!!
Eric is a great teacher and so is Mike Malaska. When these two are together whatever they teach makes perfect sense. I will work on this....
Thanks for your support, Dave! Hope this one helps!
One of the best explanation of the golf swing i have ever seen !
Thank you!!
Absolute game changer for me...casting/flipping has been an issue for me for years but since completely overhauling my swing pre xmas and drilling this "new" swing thought for me, my ball striking has never been so pure and consistent...Great advice and great video as always.
Love to hear of the great ball striking! Appreciate you watching!
Mike and yourself are great teachers and provide quality drills. No nonsense. Great to watch and take to range.
Thanks for your kind words and support! Appreciate you being here with us!
@@CogornoGolf I taped myself at range last night and noted how short my right arm was at the top (in close - Not behind) any good drills to get that right arm back.. would the down the wall drill then help the downswing to create the feel of dropping (shallowing)?
Best golf lesson clip on RUclips. Thank you to both of you. I just booked my lesson with Mike in November
Appreciate that! Thats awesome---Mike is great---enjoy!!
Malaska is by far the best instructor by a mile. Great instruction
He's the best!
Eric - you continue to amaze me with your content. I sound like a broken record, but your explanations are so succinct and really convey the information the aspiring golfer needs. The guests you bring on are excellent. I love this particular video. We hear so many conflicting points of view on this point of forearm rotation. This clears any questions one might have regarding the modern golf swing.
Thanks for the kind words, John! Glad you enjoyed this video!
Best instructor on the net…. Mike Malaska. 🇨🇦💝🇺🇸🙏🥰👍
Mike is awesome!!
Mike Malaska explains things so simple where anyone can easily understand it.
Yes! He's fantastic!
This is one of your videos that really helped my ball striking quite a bit. The feel I use is the thought of “keeping my hands quiet”. Once I do that on the takeaway I just make sure I finish and swing all the way through to my finish (another one of your great videos).
👊Love to hear it my friend! Thank you!
You are all bloody good when it's a professional showing you what to do, just take a second, minute whatever and get a high handicap player trying to show you how to swing a golf club, all RUclips golfers have a pure knack of swinging a golf club, sorry for input of most RUclips golf lessons
Thanks for watching, Stewart!
Thank you and Mike so much! I’ve been looking for a video like this for a while! Answers so many questions!
Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed this one!
THANK YOU FOR THIS! Last year I was playing some of my best golf with the feel in mind of right palm to the sky at the top of the backswing and shot my best ever score of 87, I had an injury and forgot all about it, I’m getting to the range tomorrow and getting it ingrained again! 50 seconds in and I’ve already learned more than my last £50 lesson haha
Our pleasure! Happy to hear this one helped!
I got to say Eric you and Mike explain and demonstrate thing’s clear and precise
Thank you, John!
Two fantastic coaches
Thank you!
Eric I watched the videos with Mike Malaska they have been great the one thing I had trouble with was bringing the left hip back through impact until I watched a Rory McIlroy describing his swing that when he comes to impact he said I get my left knee out of the way and back and it became so much easier for me hey I know these are old videos I hope your on vacation enjoying yourself because you deserve thanks for the videos as always .
👊Thank you for your support, John!
Thank you for sharing all these amazing tutorials e concepts.
Our pleasure, Marcelo! Thank you for watching the channel!
This video series is amazing
👊Thank you, Mark!
Yeah Malaska is that guy
my god the way that mike malaska breaks down all this stuff on like the biomechanical sort of level is just so incredibly useful for me, as a slightly OCD, feels-oriented, headcase of a golfer. i've literally gone out there and done things like just standing on the range and messing with my grip for 15 minutes trying to feel how it affects the comfortable range of motion for arms / shoulders / wrists / etc. forever, and while it feels like it could be a superpower in the right hands, for me i find it very hard to draw conclusions and/or learn from these insights without being *insanely* focused (which does happen from time to time, mercifully, but not at a level that i can sustain as a complete dilletante making stuff up on the fly like an 18th century scientist working from my own personal home laboratory). i mean, mike doesn't need *me* to tell him that he is a great teacher (he's like a Golf Magazine Top 50 instructor, or something, i guess-- no surprise), but it just gives me heart that there are people out there who break stuff down in this way.
and that is to take nothing away from Eric either-- there is a reason that i have gravitated toward this amazing channel, and it's not just because of the amazing "inquisitive amateur" affect that Eric puts on in these videos where he has great guests like this. i have learned *tons* from this channel, and expect to learn (and/or forget and re-learn, and/or misunderstand-and-then-finally-learn) soo much more going forward. as someone who is an absolute grinder, finding clear, first-principles content like this to take with me to the range is just so unbelievably valuable-- it feels like highway robbery to be getting it for free! xD (i do plan on reaching out to get more personalized instruction in the future, when i feel like i am plateauing, rather than feeling like i'm learning 100 things every day, but suffice it to say that the gratitude and feeling of goodwill that comes from having such an amazing resource... it's not something that can be fully repaid. but hopefully an over-long youtube comment on a 6 month-old video can do at least *some* justice =D ).
Lol love it---appreciate the kind words and support and agreed---Mike is the best!!
This is really interesting. Thanks
Thanks for watching the channel, Lori! Hope this one helps your game!
Every example that Mike gave regarding the wrist in other sports was spot on…. Except the bowling one. No good bowler tosses a bowling ball like that. But we definitely got the idea of what he was saying.
👊Thanks for watching, Rob!
Wonderful video tips
Thanks Lenard!
Great video series. Correct me if I’m wrong… Mike’s sort of on his own with his wrist angle strategy. I’d say most if not all other RUclipsrs “set” wrists differently (90 degrees differently) at the top of the back swing.
Thank you, Joe!
Having the wrist set at or close to 90* at P3 (lead arm parallel in backswing) is a nice checkpoint to start with! Check this video out for more details:
ruclips.net/video/vGqZJjnDA0Q/видео.html
At 3:30 there is pretty clearly some right forearm supination. He says it is right shoulder external rotation but it isn’t. 3:32
Been playing a long time. Hit right…hit left. I practiced the square take away and never hit the ball straighter. Thankyou
Love to hear this, Gary!
Look at the supination / pronation graphs of the top pros . Contrary to Malaska statement , they pronate their lead forearm going back after the end of the takeaway and then supinate their lead forearm in the latter stages of the release. While they also flex their lead wrist going back and extend it late in their downswing , flexion of the lead wrist is far from enough to close the clubface at impact .
Hey Dave!
Yep!
Of course there are FEELs and REALS...which is PART of this.
There is ALWAYS a healthy amount of supination of lead arm in downswing....whether we feel it or not...
If the face is more tilted down (a la Viktor Hovland model) e would just see LESS of that lead arm supination compared to someone with face less tilted down (like me :) )
Hi Eric, excellent video as always . i had not played for months, the drill helped cause i just swung a bit and just focused on half swings but throw. I just have a question, while it was excellent for my driver and iron/wedges…how do I adjust the right hand throw for hybrids and wood? I keep getting left to right shots . Thanks
Hey!
Love it!
All things equal NOTHING would change for those clubs.....so I can't say for sure why you are getting LEFT shots only with those without seeing.
Send videos to www.cogornogolf.com so we can see and diagnose OR find a good coach to get with in person. Should not be a hard fix!
What Mike described about twisting your wrist while throwing a ball is exactly why a breaking pitch in baseball travels at a lower velocity than does a fastball (in general. There are some freaks, like Dwight Gooden, who were able to throw a breaking pitch as fast as other pitcher's fastball velocity)
👊👊
Can you explain how to get the right grip for your body?
Hey there! I'd start with this one👍
ruclips.net/video/EoHnyunIAWw/видео.html
Hope it helps!
Do you have a video to back this up with what the left hand does?
Hey there!
You might enjoy checking these videos out for more details on the lead arm/hand action:
ruclips.net/video/3pW6O_YHdPI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/BlZriUpP7Ns/видео.html
Let us know if you have any questions! Thanks for watching!!
Eric, this wrist position makes me pull the ball left. Not a draw, but an actual pull. I have to weaken my right hand grip substantially to prevent a pull. It’s almost like I’m flipping the club upon release. Any thoughts?
Hey Brad!
Without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much. Send us your swings at www.cogornogolf.com so we can do a full analysis and put together a personalized practice plan!
Would love to work together on your game! Hope to see you there👊
Thank you for watching!
Such a great video. I am fighting through this exact issue as my current swing is much more like his “old” swing with the roll. Question: at this 3:53 mark in the video I have a “chicken vs the egg” problem in that I feel like I have to roll forearms to get my shoulder to externally rotate. This then opens club face and sets me up for having to time the flip right. Is there a drill for fighting that rolling feeling and still getting your shoulder externally rotated at the top? Thank you for all the killer content
Thanks for your support my friend!
I think mixing the concepts from these videos should be a great start👍
ruclips.net/video/piTRlky6G84/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/6OapTjdg0qk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/lr8JV6ShmRI/видео.html
Hope these help!
Stephen Curry- Klay Thompson of the golf teachers - best of the best - thank you- Keith
Appreciate your support Keith! Thank you!!
Hey Eric I would love to get your thought on something. I think there is a misconception when people hear "palm down" relating to the face being closed. I think they think that palm down means down relative to the ground rather than palm down relative to the arc of the swing. Palm down relative to the ground would in fact result in a face closed relative to the arc. In my opinion the correct mindset is palm down relative to the arc. Would love your thoughts. Thanks.
Can you make a video on back pain because I have trouble keeping my spine neutral that is why I have pain.
Maybe a future video idea!
@@CogornoGolf Thanks sir I appreciate it
In another video (one on the Joe Nichols Looping the Club) Mike advises us to start the backswing by pushing the handle down to leverage the clubhead up with the left wrist hinge. I'm not sure how this left wrist action is compatible with the right wrist action he describes here for the backswing?
Hey Lee!
I think this video below will help out:
ruclips.net/video/vGqZJjnDA0Q/видео.html
Please let us know if you have any questions after watching!
@@CogornoGolf Thanks Eric, very informative. I guess the other variable that would interact with those ones would be forearm supination/pronation?
Update: I had some promising results with this (Eric's Holy Grail video) at the range. Focusing on nothing other than the left wrist, I simply thought: "Cup, then bow." So, for the backswing I 'cup' (well, I think it's actually radial deviation or hinge) my left wrist in the knowledge that this gets a steeper shaft angle and has it going up more outside rather than rolled inside the hands. And for the downswing, I 'bow' (flexion) my left wrist in the knowledge that it flattens the shaft angle and puts it more inside the hands coming down.
It's a bit odd in that there was a pause at the top of my backswing where I was transitioning from the former wrist condition to the latter. But my shots (5 iron off a low tee) were pleasing.
Thanks, Eric.
I like this video. However the ball has a tendency to go left with the strong grip. On trac man I am swinging inside out so for some reason my club face is closed going left. Any thoughts?
Thanks for watching!
Without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much my friend. Send in your swings to www.cogornogolf.com so we can dive in, do a full analysis and build you a custom practice plan!
Hope to see you there!
So, is Mike saying that you don't really need to twist the club face down as you approach impact if you maintain your wrist angles throughout? Assuming you rotate and keep your hip depth, of course.
Hey there!
Yes, if you keep the club face slightly closed to the shaft on the way back and down, you wouldn't need to necessarily add conscious twisting of the wrist angles and shaft because your club face is already good to go.
A lot of golfers twist the wrist angles and shaft and get the club face way open to the shaft, consciously or unconsciously, and they would be great candidates for the twist away method as seen in the video below to square the face up:
ruclips.net/video/lr8JV6ShmRI/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf love your channel. been an avid follower for some time now.
Just a question on this method. If you keep the club face closed on the back swing and down, how different will the release (after impact) be as opposed to the conventional twisting method?
How do you release the club without scooping the ball?
Hey there!
Check this video out and let us know if you have any questions!
ruclips.net/video/odSKa4DY4SA/видео.html
Thank you for watching!
I can get the right wrist in correct positions halfway back and at top of swing. But at last parallel on downswing my clubface toe is usually pointing up or even more open. Having trouble getting right palm to face back down. Any advice?
Hey Eddie!
Without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much. Send your swings in at www.cogornogolf.com so we can dive in and give you the best possible advice and practice plan!👊
This one may help you to get started:
ruclips.net/video/fCW9W_lGQtM/видео.html
Hope to see you there!
Man I see why you replay some of these. "They're gold Jerry"
:) Thank you so much for watching!
H.s... i think that just changed EVERYTHING for me... For the rest of the day at least.
:) Thanks for watching, Rick!
You didn't put the two video links on the screen, at the end!
I'm sure the forearm rotation would be ok with older flatter lie angle clubs,
Thanks for watching the channel, Nephesh!
Would swinging like this not make the ball come out a lot lower because you are keeping the face more down?
anyone have an idea where to get that club they used for training/illustration in this video?
Another Mike said he threw with his right hand. Austin
:)
His forearms do rotate to the top 😂 Its not just his right shoulder
I always believed manipulating the face was a mistake…the swing happen to fast to really control it.
Hey there!
You can learn to control the club face if you start short and slow and build your way up!
Here are a couple of videos you might like to check out:
ruclips.net/video/fCW9W_lGQtM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/lr8JV6ShmRI/видео.html
Thanks so much for watching the channel!
Deserve it , I rush typing as always or if someone reads my response with the bad grammar man all those Catholic schools down the drain I wasted so much money lol
Mike wears two gloves which makes sense. No one has a good explanation why golfers should only wear one glove other than that it traditional.
This is completely wrong, just look at Tiger Woods and Adam Scott to understand that the movement of the wrist and hand is another, and it's exactly what Malaska says not to do and which instead must be done.
Thanks for the feedback!
Bla bla bla Too looooong!!!
Thanks for the feedback!