Jehovah's Witness Organization the Co-Savior?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2022
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Chicken Scratch Apologetics, this will focus on the Jehovah's Witness's Organization. The group claims to be essential to salvation, I relationship with them is a must in order to have eternal life. Is that true. No....not in any way.
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They do see themselves as the gatekeeper of salvation - it’s blasphemous
“For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”
1 Timothy 2:5
@@scottgrey2877 so You disagree with scripture well there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus fullstop.
@@scottgrey2877 Who said anything about priests? Why are JWs so quick to assume that anyone with whom they interact that isn't a JW is Catholic? I have one priest -- Jesus, the prophet, priest and king.
They teach that:
- Your relationship with God depends on them.
- Your knowledge of scripture can only come from them.
- Salvation depends on your support of... you guessed it... them.
- Your life depends on field service.
I don't see how people can say that they haven't inserted themselves into God's plan of salvation as an additional requirement that has no scriptural basis. I'm sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to tell us where/how we have it all wrong.
All u have to do is read their rendition of 2 Cor. 5:20 in the NWT & compare it all other Bible translations available. No JW recognizes this gross mistranslation, nor will they dare ? it.
@@bygeorgehemayberite8385 It's amazing how much difference a single word can make.
@@evanwindom3265 a single word can make a difference. Read how Satan deceived Eve in the garden by simply adding "not" to Gods word in Genesis 3:4. It's so simple and effective even today that Satan is still using the same tactic through his organization on earth.
@@bygeorgehemayberite8385 ON BEHALF can also mean a substitute, just like a substitute teacher is acting on behalf of the teacher, so there is no mistranslation there in 2 cor 5:20
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Not a really good example, albeit I knew one would try to defend the rendering of this passage.
There’s a specific reason why 2 Cor. 5:20 is not rendered “substitute” vs. “on behalf of” or “for” by the overwhelming majority of bible translation, b/c the word “substitute” in Greek literally means to ‘stand-in or to replace’.
The Gospel is all about Jesus Christ & no where would The Apostle Paul remotely hint at “standing-in or replacing” the One he was preaching about. Therefore, he availed himself as an ambassador coming on “behalf” of Jesus, not substituting for him.
Ur example of a substitute teacher is actually a poor one, simply b/c a substitute teacher can either follow a curriculum set before them, or if a teacher is expected to be out for a while, create their own curriculum & standards. So the word “substitute” is a very slippery slope & is an unhappy translation per 100% of credible bible translations.
The Watchtower also teaches that Jesus is not your mediator. He is only the mediator for the anointed. For everybody else, the Watchtower is your mediator.
@@scottgrey2877 You keep repeating WT talking points, but don't support any of your claims with scripture. Don't just parrot what you've been taught. Show us you're right.
@@scottgrey2877 SCRIPTURE? (Quoting Stephen Lett isn't the same as citing scripture.)
@@scottgrey2877 "The non elect benefit from the ransom". Yet another completely unsubstantiated claim.
@@scottgrey2877 Yes -- Jesus is the savior of all who believe. There's no differentiation of any "elect" class of people. “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." - John 3:16. I don't need any anointed class of people from some unappointed organization to receive salvation by grace through faith in Jesus.
@@scottgrey2877 By all means, then -- enlighten me. Don't accuse me of something like that and not back it up.
Loved it, simple, truthful and to the point
Another great message.
The JWs are very much like the Hindu's in that they have an Anointed Class ie Brahmin Caste.
Also like Hindu's, the JWs are Henotheists which is a branch of Polytheism.
The four classes were the Brahmins (priestly people), Governing Body
The Kshatriyas (rulers, administrators and warriors; also called Rajanyas), GB helpers and Circuit Overseer
The Vaishyas (artisans, merchants, tradesmen and farmers), Elders and Pioneers, Publishers
The Shudras (labouring classes) The Average JW
The Varna categorisation implicitly had a fifth element, being those people deemed to be entirely outside its scope, such as tribal people and the untouchables.
The Untouchables obviously are the JWs who are Shunned.
Very Much like the Hierarchical Structure of the JWs. Just another Man-Made Organisation.
@@scottgrey2877 Dear Jordan did you bother to look up the definition of Henotheist??? If you are a JW, you believe in The Father Big God and Jesus a god John1:1. = 2 Gods
Christians and Jews are Monotheist.
We believe there is only 1 TRUE GOD, ALL OTHER GODS ARE FALSE.
Isaiah 43:10
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Notice Jordan no God formed before or AFTER. Yet you believe in 2 gods, but only follow 1 god. That's Henotheism, just like the Hindu's. That's Polytheism my friend.
You believe in 2 gods.You are not a Monotheist.
@@scottgrey2877 Absolute rubbish. here Encyclopaedia Brittanica explains
Sometimes above the many gods a polytheistic religion will have a supreme creator and focus of devotion, as in certain phases of Hinduism
Note the phrase "Sometimes" "as in certain phases of Hinduism" I have been to India numerous times and my wife is from that region. Please learn a bit about comparative religions before making a fool of yourself.
But like all JWs you are running madly from the issue. You are a polytheist
Again Brittanica explains "polytheism, the belief in many gods. Polytheism characterizes virtually all religions other than Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, which share a common tradition of monotheism, the belief in one God."
You believe in 2 Gods. the moment you believe the NWT of John 1:1 inspired by Johannes Greber the spiritist You are a Polytheist.
Christians believe in 1 True God, anything is a false god.
You believe in 2 Gods.
@@scottgrey2877 SCRIPTURE????? You keep doing it -- making random claims that things work a certain way, all to WT's advantage, and have not provided a single scripture to support what you say.
@@scottgrey2877 If you believe in more than one God, that is - by definition - polytheism.
@@scottgrey2877 What is that "one substance"? SCRIPTURE?
Its good you are making these videos and exposing the lies of the organization. Its amazing how brain washed the members become.
@larysnw418 no, I was fortunate to never have been part of it.
“ noooo..... NO!”
Awesome, thanks!
Amen. Well said.
Quote from JWs Kingdom Ministries: They definitely claim to be the Saviour
"Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with JEHOVAH’S ORGANIZATION IS ESSENTIAL TO THEIR SALVATION. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established." Kingdom Ministries Nov 1990 page 1
Mr L.O.D. has hit the nail on the head. Eradicating Jesus is their primary concern re Salvation.
stop your lies. JWs teach that our salvation fROM two PERSONS, GOD AND THE LAMB - Rev 7:9-10, while you reject the Father as salvation
@@Mr.DC3.1914 he directly quoted watchtower I guess you believe Watchtower is lies
@@deus_vult8111 That guy is a jw troll, and should not be taken seriously. He/she is probably counting time to let the sacred WT know how "spiritual" they are.
@@Mr.DC3.1914 G'day Del, you accused me of lying in the above quote. Can you clear the matter up and look at Kingdom Ministries Nov 1990 page 1.
You accuse so many people of lying. I suggest you are lying when you are calling us liars as we have you cornered and you are lashing out.
Del, please demonstrate where I lied.
This challenge will go down in the history books as"Del spitting his dummy (Pacifier) again. Nice work Del. Apologies are free Del.
@@RowanTasmanian antiJWs LIED too much and I only say it when you showed that you are liar, and for you , you continue to believe and propagate Lies so yes you are A LIAR
Amen to the last statement, if anyone is pushing themselves on u instead of Jesus, leave
You know, I struggled so long with spiritual issues, and got sidetracked by cults and all kinds of Satanic distractions, and it's really only because I had never actually studied the Bible, in spite of going to religious schools. I thought that I knew the Bible. I thought (perhaps narcissistically) that I had an enlightened understanding of Christianity that normal Christians just didn't get (I read G.K. Chesterton and Joseph Campbell, studied Buddhist and Hindu texts, listened to Alan Watts, lit a bunch of sage, and became a pompous ¶ss about the 'deeper concepts of the Christian myths'.) So I didn't need to open it. But then I got sucked down the cult path, and the only thing that freed me from spiritual bondage was actually reading the Bible. The cults are there ready to make you lose your way, and the way they do it is by convincing you that there are more enlightened people out there with a special connection that you just have to 'tap into'. But really, you have to READ and UNDERSTAND. God's word is plain and available to all men, and the only thing Satan can do is make you doubt that--that's his only trick. And he's got a million variations on that one trick.
"You hush, we'll talk for you"
Me falling off my chair laughing. I love this channel. (Oops, didn't mean "channel" as in the JW "channel", but as in a youtube channel. You know, like the dial on an old TV, not some palm reader telling you to follow her. LOL)
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Keep up the great work 👍
Well said, Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Man-made religious cults like Jehovahs Witnesses are good religions to be from.
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It sounds to me like JW'S are trying to re-write scriptures whereas THEY are the go between and Christ takes a back seat. That's not what Hebrews chapter 10 explains Christ's sacrifice once for all. Christ is our mediator, no one else.
Great advice;piss the bloody hell off,out of the JWs Borg.
My ex friend is JW. It's a cult and she acts brainwashed. It's terribly sad.
I would think that is people are made to believe that the Almighty Creator of this energy pulsating Universe can change into a form of a human, get abused and killed, that would be an example of a brainwashing.
Doesn't one agree?
@larysnw418 JWs are brainwashed. And, look up the bite model.
@larysnw418 "They... either."
You accuse people who are critical towards your cult, but run away when you get challenge.
@larysnw418 Information Control
Deception
Deliberately withhold information
Distort information to make it more acceptable
Systematically lie to the cult member
Minimize or discourage access to non-cult sources of information, including:
Internet, tv, radio, books, articles, newspapers, magazines, other media
Critical information
Former members
Keep members busy so they don’t have time to think and investigate
Control through a cell phone with texting, calls, and internet tracking
Compartmentalize information into Outsider vs Insider doctrines
Ensure that information is not easily accessible
Control information at different levels and missions within the group
Allow only leadership to decide who needs to know what and when
Encourage spying on other members
Impose a buddy system to monitor and control member
Report deviant thoughts, feelings, and actions to leadership
Ensure that individual behavior is monitored by the group
Extensive use of cult-generated information and propaganda, including:
Newsletters, magazines, journals, audiotapes, videotapes, RUclips, movies, and other media
Misquoting statements or using them out of context from non-cult sources
Unethical use of confession
Information about sins used to disrupt and/or dissolve identity boundaries
Withholding forgiveness or absolution
Manipulation of memory, possibly false memories
Jesus is always used as an afterthought with the Jehovah's witnesses 😫😫😫
If just belief in Jesus is all it takes, who are the 'Christians Jesus will reject and destroy?
(Matthew 7:23) And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
Jesus never knew Them not once Why in the verse you see people saying didn't WE do this in your name all these WORKS so these people never Trusted Jesus Christ for salvation/ Whoever Believes has eternal Life ✅
@@brendangoodbrand2597 : That section is about these last days. True Christians and pretenders can be distinguished.
'Only those DOING God's Will will be saved'. Matthew 7:21.
Other works, even great ones, using Jesus' name will not be with God's backing.
Aside from telling us that there will not be miracles in these last days as there were in the first Century, it tells us that there will be True Christians ACTIVE.
JWs are actively fulfilling Matthew 24:14.
@@jimjuri6490so you are Eternally Saved? Nope you are working for your salvation Haha Galatians 1:8 calls you Accused you have a different Jesus and Gospel of Christ you call God a liar 1John 5:13,19 Mathew passage is talking about you people working for salvation Jesus NEVER knew them either your Saved Eternally or your not and will be judged at the great white throne judgement/ also your religion of 8 men who are freemasons call themselves the truth lmao nope Jesus is the Truth wait let's see what the Bible says it's appointed for men to die once then the judgement/ wait your religion says people will get second chance I'll leave you with this Romans 3:19 ,26 Amen ( you have a false Christ who doesn't save eternally the Jesus Christ of the Bible is fully God fully man and Gives eternal Life FREELY therefore you are unsaved and stand condemned and not Forgiven
@@jimjuri6490 you don't even know what the Father's will is I'll tell you John 6:40 ( Matthew 7:23 ) so in Matthew 7 23 you have People who never trusted in Christ for Salvation but he tells you the ones who do the Fathers WIll John 6:40 The Father will is to Believe on the Son for Etetnal Life ✅ and by the way eternal Life doesnt end 1 John 5:13,19 this is the testimony of the Father about the Son that you may know you have etetnal life even says anyone denying this is calling God a Liar ( hope you get saved today is the day of salvation 2 Corinthians 6:2
@@brendangoodbrand2597 : Read Matthew 7:21-23 carefully. There are so called Christians performing great works in Jesus' name. But Jesus rejects them.
The rejection is at the end of these last days.
1 Timothy 2:3 This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4 WHOSE WILL IS that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
JWs are witnessing around the world carrying out God's will (Matthew 24:14). They are helping people come to an accurate knowledge of TRUTH.
They can help people to know what saved means. No one is saved as yet.
(Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.
David Agnew
"Rowan Tassie Watchtower 1880?! Why are you people so obsessed with dates? Haha! Rev 3:9 (Murdock): "I will make them to come and do obeisance before thy feet." Rev 3:9 (KJV): "I will make them to come and worship before thy feet." So which is it that they give to you, obeisance or worship? And how does this manifest itself in reality? John Gill: "The worship here spoken of is not a religious worship of the church, for the church is not the object of worship; only before whom, and at whose feet, this worship shall be given to God." (No reply needed)."
Dear David it doesn't matter about Obeisance and Worship. The WT clearly stated to Worship Jesus and not Obeisance to Jesus.
This was done over 75 years and stopped in 1954 with Jesus and Jehovah taking 75 years to tell the Faithful and Discreet Slave, "you have to stop that now as this is idolatry, sorry for letting you do this for 75 years"
Me thinks Jesus and the Father had absolutely nothing to do with this flip flop decision.
Purely Man-made mistakes by the GB.
An American Cult
@@davidagnew8792 "If you got those quotes from JWFacts, JWFacts rejects the trinity and says first century Christians
were not trinitarian." Wow that makes no sense. unless someone has the identical belief to me , I can't quote?????
BTW as I've been doing this for 39 years, I have a huge library of JWs and Mormon material. Most cults are bewildered walking into my home.
So who is really committing idolatry?
Tell me who is committing idolatry and especially how????
If you have been drinking, I really don't appreciate it. The rest of what you wrote are points that a Straw man would be proud of.
Russell was a Henotheist, which is part of Polytheism. This is very basic David. You JWs have extremely basic literacy skills and understanding logic (which God created) is atrocious.
Logically you should look up Henotheism is the Brittanica or a book on philosophy and then get back to me. You'll see I'm 100 percent correct if you believe the NWT of John 1:1c
Also Russell believed Jesus was a god, but followed Jehovah (big God). That's Henotheism. This is so pedestrian having to explain basic philosophical terms.
@@davidagnew8792 Again David you are running from the issues. You see David I don't play to your game. If you accuse me of something, please back it up. I will gladly answer your questions, after you have answered mine. I was first remember.
1)You accused me of Idolatry. I asked for evidence, and you gave nothing.
2) in my statement
"Logically you should look up Henotheism is the Brittanica or a book on philosophy and then get back to me"
That means logically look at Henotheism. USE DEDUCTIVE LOGIC.
For any article in Britannica to list the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of religious groups who are Polytheists, Henotheists, Monotheists would be outside their scope. The List would be enormous.
Instead of allowing the WT to tell you everything you must believe, just use something you don't use in WT presentations. USE DEDUCTIVE LOGIC.
You shouldn't have to be spoon fed. I am not the WT. Use the brain God gave you.
3) your question
"Please show me scholarly evidence proving JWs are henotheists."
Dr James White who specialises in this area describes this. He is a Scholar.
Could you be so nice and advise any names of ANY Scholars at the WT
ruclips.net/video/xSsdTaQNc3U/видео.html. at approx 13:35
4) Russell said many things, which were to be blunt moronic ie
a) The pyramid was the bible in stone.
b) If Dogs had heads like humans, they would think like humans.
c) The fall of Jerusalem was in 607 bce
d) That his "miracle wheat" produced 5 times more yield than other wheat
e) That he was a Prophet
To quote him as an authority on anything is a tragedy to logic.
please get back to me with your answers in your time. Please don't forget to include the names of any Current Scholars at the Watchtower. I'll hold you to that David.
Regards Rowan
@@davidagnew8792 1. JWFacts accuses you of idolatry, not me, by believing the Trinity.
Not true, I have never spoken with them, nor have they contacted me.
2. Britannica, under Jehovah's Witnesses, states that Russell denied the divinity of Jesus. So how can JWs be henotheists if Jesus is not divine?
Again David do you have to be spoon-fed. Why can’t you just research this on Britannica. I think you might not be telling the truth. I have seen it and sent it to many people.
3. Thank you for providing the video link. James White was arguing on the basis that Greg Stafford, who was speaking for himself, believed that Jesus was an individual deity, a separate ontological God, not a god in a metaphorical sense.
In that regard, James White argued that "it might be possible that henotheism is true."
But JWs do not view it in the same sense as Stafford, so the debate is irrelevant.
Again David, this is not the truth. Greg Stafford was a practicing JW at the time of this debate. James White stated Henotheism in regards to the JW position. Not to Greg Stafford’s position
4d. The truth about miracle wheat can be found at "PastorRussell blog miracle wheat", 1975 yearbook or w53 5/15, p319. Which I expect you probably own in your substantial collection of WT literature and probably just overlooked it ;-)
Again David, you are making this up. He lost the court case. Have a look at the court transcript.
Basically David I don’t trust a word of what you say. Many JWs who I have gotten out of this cult all told me they were allowed to lie with their opponent.
Theocratic war strategy. Here’s the quote
"So in time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary, it does much good.” WT 1957 5/1 p285
Jesus never ever taught this demonic doctrine. It’s Lying and you should be ashamed, but you won’t be. You’re not a Christian.
Watchtower can buy any scholar they want.
Really David, Name 5 Scholars. Prove it. Stop telling untruths. Who are these 5 Scholars.
Your Cult has announced Armageddon 9 times and got it wrong. Even Nostradamus had a better strike rate.
It gets very tiring when the JW has convinced himself that us Christians are believing the pathetic lies coming out of their mouths.
We don't
Read the bible only and start believing Christ.
I do. I feel sorry that don't know Christ.
Your Saviour is the Watchtower
Quote
"Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with JEHOVAH’S ORGANIZATION IS ESSENTIAL TO THEIR SALVATION. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established. Kingdom Ministries Nov 1990 page 1
How Demonic.
@@davidagnew8792 Dear David, I wish to apologise for my tone yesterday. You have always been polite to me and upon reflection I realise I went in too hard on you.
I still stand by a lot of what I said, but my Tone showed very little love and patience.
The Gospel Of Christ Was Let Down By My Actions Yesterday.
1 Peter 3:15-16 (HCSB) 15 but honor the Messiah as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you. 16 However, do this with gentleness and respect,...
If you are able to forgive my rudeness , I'll supply the true definition of Henotheism. just let me know.
Regards
Rowan Smith
@@RowanTasmanian It is more than astonishing that there is a serious dispute over whether or not Russell's behavior and teachings meet the criterion of idolatry.
The answer to this question does not require any personal interpretation, but results conclusively from Russell's own fiefdoms and statements.
1.) Russell propagated for more than 30 years that the invisible presence of Christ began in 1874. The doctrine of invisible parousia is, in Jesus' own words, a hallmark of the "false prophet." Matthew 24:24, Luke 17:22-24). The Apostle Paul earnestly exhorted his confreres in Thessaloniki not to follow anyone who spreads such a message publicly. (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3). The term "parousia" was demonstrably used by the apostle Paul exclusively in the sense of the personal or sensually perceptible presence of a person. The term "invisible presence" satisfies the criterion of a paradox, as if a father were to seriously use the term female son. A son is by definition a male child, just as "parousia" in ancient Greek represented the personal or visible visit of a person or ruler to his subjects.
2.) Russell announced over 3 decades the prediction that in 1914 the end of this evil world will take place and all Christians will experience the rapture to heaven at that time. For the year 1914, not the outbreak of the 1st World War had been predicted, but the beginning of the thousand-year rule of Chisti. The doctrine of a second class of Christians who would survive Armageddon on earth was not provided for in the curriculum of Russell and his followers. This prediction has demonstrably not been fulfilled.
How can one pretend to love the God of the Bible while disregarding His basic commandments?
According to God's clear rules, an Old Covenant believer was forbidden to follow a confrere who had spread false predictions among his compatriots in the name of God. (Deuteronomy 18:22-24).
In this sense, according to the rules of Yahwe, Russell should have been removed from office by the end of 1914 at the latest.
Jehovah's Witnesses disregard this rule by granting false prophets a privileged position and status as saints within the Brotherhood.
3.) Russell had described himself as the mouthpiece of God. Not even the apostle Paul claimed such a designation for himself, even though he had been called by Jesus Christ Himself. (Galatians 1:11-12).
Rather, the apostle Paul was content with the term "slave and apostle of Jesus Christ." (example: Galatians 1,1-2, 1. Corinthians 1,1-3, Ephesians 1,1-3).
And in this capacity as God's mouthpiece, Russell had also publicly proclaimed his predictions.
If, in the name of a God who cannot lie, one repeatedly spreads predictions that prove to be a blatant error, one should be aware of the consequences. In this case, not only the reputation of human propagandists, but also the trustworthiness of the Bible and the God attested to in it is damaged in public perception.
For this reason, Jesus Christ personally stated that the determination of end-time dates is reserved exclusively for God the Father. (Acts 1:7). After that, Jesus forbade His apostles to explore end-time dates, let alone proclaim them. This commandment applies to all Christians at all times. Those who disregard this commandment disregard the will of God the Father.
After the doctrine of "the generation" had to be abandoned in 1995 (see Watchtower article of 01.11.1995), this doctrine was revived years ago in the form of the overlapping generation, although this doctrine is in absolute contradiction to the statements of Jesus in his end-time discourse.
4.) Russell's followers publicly appeared as "Russellites" with the approval or acquiescence of this Mr. Russell, although Paul in his 1st letter to the Corinthians declared such a practice absolutely inadmissible. (1 Corinthians 1:10-17).
5.) Russell publicly stated that if you only read his scripture studies, you would remain in the light and fall into darkness if you only read the Bible.
This truth was accepted and acknowledged by the Russellites and publicly disseminated in the form of scripture studies, etc.
How truthfully this statement is to be evaluated in retrospect can be deduced from the fact that no library in a local community contains Russell's scripture studies and other works. In the case of inquiries about these „historical testimonies of truth“, the respective brothers are referred to the current publications by the responsible elders.
6.) Russell was a representative and propagandist of the "pyramid doctrine". He claimed that the Great Pyramde was to be regarded as a stone witness of God. To this end, Russell traveled to Egypt and studied the inner passages of the Great Pyramid to legitimize the calculation of his end-time dates, especially in relation to the year 1914.
Every Christian is aware that the pyramid is to be regarded as a pagan object and served the worship of the pharaohs as god-like beings.
As a Christian, how can one seek the truth in pagan objects or places of worship when the Bible is the only Word of God passed on to man through the apostles of Christ?
7.) These scripture studies were decorated with pagan symbols on the obverse, as a sign of his glorification of the pharaoh cults. (Eagle wing of the sun god Ammon-Ra).
8.) Russell was buried next to the miniature replica of the Great Pyramid. This monument was recently removed. Masonic symbols were also engraved on this monument. ("All-seeing Eye", "Tilted Cross with Crown"). On his grave, Russell immortalized himself as a messenger of Laodicea of Revelation.
Does such behavior testify to modesty and appropriate self-assessment?
Matthew 25:34-40 “Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom ….to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
How we treat Christ Brothers on earth does affect our salvation.
(Vss 41-46) “Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels…Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”
Christ is talking about you’re fellow man, ἀδελφῶν, is brethen, people, your neighbors. But If you think he only means spiritual brothers…
Matthew 12:50
For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother, and sister, and mother
And what is the will of the Father?
Also consider..
Matthew 22:37
37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”
This is about loving God, loving brothers, loving your fellow human. Notice how it’s the basics of survival you’re providing, food, water, shelter, first aid, clothing, and adding compassion
Jesus says what that looks like in Luke 10:25-37.
Nothing in Matthew identifies “Christ’s brothers” to only be referring to a special class of people we must submit to in order to be saved. Think about this, the same people telling you, that your life depends on them, also said this verse was about them, and you aren’t allowed to disagree.
What’s your opinion on the WT removing Jesus?
Your first drawing was wrong.
Jehovah - Jesus - GB - JW would be more accurate
So are the GB, Jehovah Channel or Jesus’s only channel?
God is the Actual Saviour. However he uses means to accomplish this saving.
Judges 3:9 When the Israelites called to Jehovah for help, Jehovah RAISED UP A SAVIOUR to rescue the Israelites, Othʹni·el the son of Keʹnaz, the younger brother of Caʹleb.
The Bible states that God delivered the Israelites from Egypt. Even though God used an angel to bring the Israelites out of Egypt.
Similarly, Jesus is used by God to save all mankind. John 3:16.
None of these appointed by God can be called co-saviours.
Jesus is compared to the means of God communicating with hiumans
(Hebrews 1:2) Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son,
Show me a verse that stays his organization is involved in our salvation.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry:(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.
If God wants those who sincerely want to worship him to get out of their various religions before its too late, where do they go to? Stay at home and watch TV?
Where did people in Noah's day need to go to to get saved? To the ONE ARK God had built.
Jesus likens our day to Noah's. Matthew 24:37-39. What is the 'ARK' today?
Jeremiah 23:3 “Then I will GATHER TOGETHER the remnant of my sheep from all the lands to which I have dispersed them, and I will bring them back to their pasture, and they will be fruitful and become many. 4 And I will raise up over them shepherds who will really shepherd them. They will no longer be afraid or be terrified, and none will be missing,” declares Jehovah.
God has only ONE organization carrying out his Will. Those whom Jesus is leading in the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14.
Those who meet this criteria.
(1 Corinthians 1:10) Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.
And this criteria:
(John 13:35) By this all will know that you are my disciples-if you have love among yourselves.”
@@tongakhan230 none of those mean that. Try again.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry : Then how about one's own version of what those scriptures mean?
(Micah 4:2) And many nations will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah And to the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.
If JWs are inviting people to True Worship where do these who accept the invitation go to? Back to their various religions which have no connection to the TRUTH?
Any idea?
@@tongakhan230 The mountain is the church, the gathering of believers, and read Hebrews 12, confirms this was in the first century. Also notice is was God teaching them ( the Holy Spirit) not men.
WHY is JW Headquarter in Warwick STILL NOT RAIDED by Police special task forces????e WHY is JW Headquarter in Warwick STILL NOT RAIDED by Police special task forces????
Based on what grounds?
Rape case of Deborah Hines
@@evanwindom3265 I think it could be for withholding court ordered records and documents of CSA perpetrators that the JWs has been continuously refusing to hand over but instead paying a hefty fine. Also this satanic false religion has taken this case up to the Supreme Court. Why wont JWs just comply with the courts? Ridiculous!!!
@@anonymousprofessor8866 They''re claiming clery/penitent privilege, which may or may not stand the test in court.
If Jesus Christ didn't want helpers he wouldn't have had disciples. Jesus was teaching us a science which begins with our spiritual health...and in our electromagnetic universe a refined version of these electrical laws could, indeed, give us everlasting life. A strict code of conduct is of paramount importance if we want to be pulled out of this chaotic moshe pit we find ourselves in...mainly because it rerouted our lymph processes in a harmful way...and no one who smears God's righteousness will escape Wormwood, but the true Jehovah's Witness has already escaped it even though it's only just beginning to show its presence.
There's a big difference between helping someone and claiming to share their authority and ability to save. Jesus never said that you had to have a relationship with His disciples to have salvation. Any doctrine that says that loyalty to men is necessary for salvation is heresy.
@@scottgrey2877 No, Jordan, it's not. Jesus said to come to him, not to anyone else. Can you support your claim with scripture?
@@scottgrey2877 As Evan rightly pointed out, where are your verses to prove there is an organisation. I looked up Governing Body and Organisation in my Concordance. Guess What???? There's nothing in the bible. That sounds a bit suspicious to me. Enforcing doctrine that's not in the bible.
@@RowanTasmanian It is a vicious, spiteful, and terrible world...and we are held in the power of evil, unless we put down a solid anchor in Jesus Christ. Our main concern today is Wormwood. It is here, now, and bearing heavily upon this planet...but there is a salvation path...it is the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as he taught the seven churches in Asia. If we are trying to be righteous our profile will fit in with one of those churches and we must obey Jesus to those seven churches to be saved, because, therein, lies a science...and the Jehovah's Witness Faith carries that science which will save us.
@@trevorbates8972 Gday Trevor are you trying to say the JWs are the correct way. I’m not sure what you are saying.
Jesus made clear that doing miracles and other great things using his name would not have God's approval.
Only those DOING THE WILL of my Father will be saved (Matthew 7:21,22).
Obviously Jesus' True Disciples would know what God's Will is for these last days.
Matthew 24:14 is clear. Can't see any other UNITED group fulfilling it.
brain washed
Don't you think this video is a bit pedantic and hypocritical? You also believe that Christianity has certain doctrinal parameters, and if you go beyond those, then you are no longer safe/saved, correct? The only difference is that because JW's are the ONLY ones that believe what we hold to be true, then we think you need to remain a part of Jehovah's Organisation, whereas you think someone could possibly leave whatever denomination/group you belong to, and find another one that's not dissimilar. That's the only difference as far as I can tell.
Or were you saying you don't need to belong to a group at all? As long as you believe all the right stuff, you don't even need to leave your house. How do you reconcile that with Proverbs 18:1?
Doctrinal parameters? Well yes, and no. If someone says they’re a Christian, and lives a life opposite of how a Christian should, I would say they aren’t one, a false convert, and they are either fooling everyone else or and themselves. That includes unrepentant sin, practice of sin, holding beliefs that are contrary to core doctrine, like for instance believing There’s a mother God or Jesus isn’t the only way to eternal life.
Speaking on church, For the Christian, it really doesn’t matter what Christian believers you associate with. Whatever church you attend (obviously being real and not apostate) will help build you spiritually and Shepard your faith, as well as support you socially, mentally, finically. But that church doesn’t save you.
True Christian doctrine should be approached like the lone survivor on a desert island. If you Matt, let’s say you’re an atheist, find yourself stranded forever on a desert island alone, and all you have is a Bible, can you be saved spiritually? Of course. Repent, call out to Jesus. Now, there is no one to baptize you, no doors to knock on, no one to preach to, no church to join. But still saved because Your salvation depends on Christ alone, (without people involved) that’s the Gospel.
As a true Christian, you want to profess faith, you want to associate with others, you want to tell others, but those acts don’t save you, Christ does. Those works are desires that come a changed heart, that originated from the saving work of the Holy Spirit.
Make sense?
stop your lies. JWs teach that we owe our salvation from two persons, GOD and the Lamb. rev 7:9-10
That’s good, thanks for clearing that up. So I don’t need to be apart of the Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses to be saved?
@@scottgrey2877 My fiancé says to me “Come to me, and let’s get married.” Now she runs and organization, that’s she’s in charge of. She has others beneath her running it also. By me joining and becoming a member, have I know come and married my fiancé because I joined her organization?
Then explain this, please: “The other sheep should never forget that their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed 'brothers' still on Earth.” Watchtower, March 15, 2012, p20
@@scottgrey2877 "if Christ is the head of the organisation coming to the organisation is coming to Christ". You say that so much you should have it printed on the front on a t-shirt. And on the back, you could print "The Earth is flat."
@@scottgrey2877 Agreed, but how does that support the whole "coming to the organization is coming to Christ" fallacy? Actually, when you come to Christ you join His Church, which is not bound by the boundaries and limitations of any man-made organization like the Catholic Church or the Watchtower. The WT is fixated on trying to sell people that Jesus insists that there is a single group or organization that belongs to Him. That's not what scripture says.
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