The number of times to use tattler/harvest guard (same family) gasket is 10 times. The harvest guard lids look to have mold release on them from manufacturing. They had issues with a new manufacturer of gaskets. Stack the lid with the gasket upside down in the hot water and with tongs pick both up at the same time. You can turn off heat, remove lid, wait 5 min and pull jars out one at a time and tighten the lid down. This prevents less siphoning. Yes, remove bands. You can have a false seal if you leave bands on. A seal can fail and reseal with temp changes. Removing bands prevents this.
Additionally, to the false seal comment from above, removing the rings removes a potential place to harbour bacteria growth as well as prevents rust if there are humidity shifts in storage.
I have used both Tatler and Harvest Guard,they both work well and stay sealed I have some 2 years old now still sealed. I quit using Harvest guard and stick with Tatler now because Harvest Guard sky rocketed their prices more than three times the usuall amount so that was the deciding factor for me.
I have had mixed results with the Harvest Guard. Yesterday I did a run with 16 pints. 5 did not seal. I am using the new gaskets. Sometimes they work sometimes they dont. I am going back to metal lids. I will use the HG if I have no other option.
I have seen others say put the rings on the lids, put all in a pan, then pour hot water over them. They then pick the whole thing up with tongs and put on the jar. No need to put the ring first on the jar. Would you use these lids for canning meat? According to the National Center For Home Food Preservation the reason to remove the band is it prevents corrosion of the bands and also if left on it hides that a seal may have broken.
Yes, they work fine for meat. I have been using them for about 10 yrs. If you are new to them, run a test batch and can water to get a feel for them before canning food.
@@horticultureandhomes I have had mine for a long time, just haven't used them very much. Am just getting back into canning and started using the lids again. Thank you.
You're not supposed to leave the bands on even with the disposable anyways. Reason being is because if for whatever reason the seal comes unsealed, bacteria can get in there and with the band on the jar it can reseal the lid after bacteria gets in. And you wouldn't know until you open it to eat.
LOL, I just went to watch their tutorial and they literally did exactly what I did. So you're going to have to be more specific when you say my advice is bad... The only thing I did differently is I leave the rings on in storage which isn't what they do. Is that my "very bad advice" or was there more?
The number of times to use tattler/harvest guard (same family) gasket is 10 times. The harvest guard lids look to have mold release on them from manufacturing. They had issues with a new manufacturer of gaskets.
Stack the lid with the gasket upside down in the hot water and with tongs pick both up at the same time.
You can turn off heat, remove lid, wait 5 min and pull jars out one at a time and tighten the lid down. This prevents less siphoning.
Yes, remove bands. You can have a false seal if you leave bands on. A seal can fail and reseal with temp changes. Removing bands prevents this.
That’s great to know!
Additionally, to the false seal comment from above, removing the rings removes a potential place to harbour bacteria growth as well as prevents rust if there are humidity shifts in storage.
I have used both Tatler and Harvest Guard,they both work well and stay sealed I have some 2 years old now still sealed. I quit using Harvest guard and stick with Tatler now because Harvest Guard sky rocketed their prices more than three times the usuall amount so that was the deciding factor for me.
So far both have worked great for us too! I’d go based on price too.
The screw band can make for a false seal…and you wouldn’t know it
I have had mixed results with the Harvest Guard. Yesterday I did a run with 16 pints. 5 did not seal. I am using the new gaskets. Sometimes they work sometimes they dont. I am going back to metal lids. I will use the HG if I have no other option.
I have seen others say put the rings on the lids, put all in a pan, then pour hot water over them. They then pick the whole thing up with tongs and put on the jar. No need to put the ring first on the jar. Would you use these lids for canning meat? According to the National Center For Home Food Preservation the reason to remove the band is it prevents corrosion of the bands and also if left on it hides that a seal may have broken.
Yes, they work fine for meat. I have been using them for about 10 yrs. If you are new to them, run a test batch and can water to get a feel for them before canning food.
@@horticultureandhomes I have had mine for a long time, just haven't used them very much. Am just getting back into canning and started using the lids again. Thank you.
You're not supposed to leave the bands on even with the disposable anyways. Reason being is because if for whatever reason the seal comes unsealed, bacteria can get in there and with the band on the jar it can reseal the lid after bacteria gets in. And you wouldn't know until you open it to eat.
please don't give canning advice.....lol
because...?
@@pantrypreparedness because it's very bad advice.
Harvest guard has a channel here...have a look
LOL, I just went to watch their tutorial and they literally did exactly what I did. So you're going to have to be more specific when you say my advice is bad...
The only thing I did differently is I leave the rings on in storage which isn't what they do. Is that my "very bad advice" or was there more?