I get that you want to defend Ned on Jaime’s account, but Jaime exposed a weakness about Ned in that Ned allowed his honor to blind him. Instead of hearing Jaime out, all Ned saw was a disgraceful knight who broke his vow. I argue Ned was the catalyst in Jaime’s Kingslayer persona.
The thing is to an outsider the situation seemed very obvious. Jaime had served the mad King for a year and could have killed him the entire time. He served him loyally. Then an army stormed the city and if Jaime had not killed him he would have been arrested or killed the very same day. If you don't know about the wildfire it seems that the Mad King could have done very little in the remaining hours and it is a natural assumption that Jaime switched from the loosing to the winning side at the last possible moment. I never minded that Jaime killed the King but I saw him as a rat leaving a sinking ship before I heard the story.
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845this is the dumbest thing I have ever read, people are not able to watch the show at all, but since the books have more information, I will have to upset you, but your opinion is completely wrong, to begin with, when Tywin came into the city, Jaime literally helped the king and literally told him not to let his own father into the city! The king did not listen and because of this he was in a losing situation because he allowed Tywin’s army to enter the city, AND I WILL REMIND YOU that there were caches with “wild fire” throughout the City,1 word of the mad king and the entire population of Kingslanding would have burned in a seconds,taking into account Ned Stark and Tywin, only after that Jaime took his sword and first of all killed the pyromancers who could set everything on fire, and then the king himself
@@risotto244 I know, but Ned didn't. I am not saying that what Jaime did was wrong or cowardly, although I think he should have done it sooner. My point is that Ned's opinion is not based on what the readers know, but on what Ned knew. Ned didn't know about the wild fire, so to him it seemed that the Mad King couldn't do much when the city was already stormed and to him based on what he knew Jaime killing the King seemed like an obvious attempt to switch from the loosing to the winning side. I know this is a wrong conclusion, but if I only had the information Ned had at the time I might have I would have probably thought the same, so I find it unfair to judge him to harshly just because we know things he didn't.
My very favorite thing about this show is that we see the rationale behind character's decisions and then the eventual, inevitable consequences of those decisions. Ned Stark is a great example. He was a good and honorable man, but he valued his own honor SO highly and seemed to invest next to no thought into how others would respond to his actions. He wasn't a dumb man, but he made any number of really stupid choices. Worse, I feel like if he could be given a second chance, he'd make those stupid choices all over again. And here comes Robb, following in his father's footsteps. He's already deeply offended the Frey, and now he just lost half of his army!
basically everyone takes oaths very seriously so jaime broke his oath to protect his king and thats why so many people dislike him. like yeah the mad king was a bad person but jaime was still expected to keep his oath to protect him regardless of what he was like.
But as Jaime points out he also took an oath to protect the innocent. What do you do when the lord you swore an oath to commands you to kill the innocent you took an oath to protect?
@@joshhutton9534 Possibly, however this was the first time he was asked to commit the mass murder of innocents. In any case, it was enough to Jaime to break his oath to the king and kill him, thus saving the lives of thousands which ironically earns him the disrespect of almost everyone.
@@gunkulator1 he wasn't about to commit it. The pyromancer was. His order was to kill his father. From Ned's point of view, he had no problem keeping his oath while Ned's father and brother burned alive in front of him. But when his father was next, he broke it. Jamie makes it plenty clear that he doesn't care about the "common people"
@@joshhutton9534nah before he was treated badly for killing Aerys he was a pretty alright guy, he idolised chivalrous knights like Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy and even Rhaegar Targaryen, it’s part of the reason he was really excited to join the kingsguard despite not understanding it was a slight against Tywin to snatch up his heir Jaime’s whole thing is about sacrificing honour and oaths to do the right thing in the moment plus in the books they explore this a bit more and Jaime just goes along with the Kingslayer persona - as if saying “if you think i’m a sleezy oathbreaker i’ll be a sleezy oathbreaker”
@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett Morally the protecting the innocent should be more important but within this world as a knight of the kings guard id imagine if you don't hold that oath to be the most important then you are going to be looked down upon heavily
This is a great distinction between Secret Service agents and Homeland Security agents. At homeland, your job is to protect and serve the country. As an SS agent, your protectee is the MOST important. Not exactly the same, but it is the only modern day analogy i can draw from.@absolutelyliberated1357
The Kingsguard oath is considered one of the most sacred, and he is seen in a negative light because as a kingsguard what he did is universally cursed. HOWEVER, what he did was so noble and honorable it goes to show there's more to Jaime's character than the outward bravado and arrogance he shows.
18:24 I don’t think Ned would have. Ned is as great a man as you perceive him to be but he’s also beholden to duty and honor. A Kingsguard killing his King is as dishonorable as anything in the realm, even if he had good cause. Similar to when Ned executed the Night’s Watch deserter in episode 1. The deserter might’ve been right and had good reason, but law is law and he forsook his oath so Ned had to execute him.
And here's where you see the many problems with Westeros' attitude towards vows. Jaime is sworn to protect his King against all things and give his life if need be, but he is also sworn to protect the innocent, and sworn to obey his father and his superiors; they go into this really well in the books when Jaime tells Catelyn that there are so many vows, so many that it is impossible to uphold every one without dishonoring yourself in some way, enter Ned Stark. Ned is a great man and an honourable to an extreme, and of course to an outsider like Ned, all he sees is a weak-willed kingslayer who gave in when he was pressured. What do you do in that situation? Do you kill your father and watch tens of thousands burn alive? It's a common saying that no man is as cursed as the kinslayer, so who would Jaime really be helping by killing his own family and innocents? Or, do you murder your king, saving countless lives, only now you've disgraced yourself forever as an oathbreaker? Everyone knew Aerys was mad, but it didn't matter to someone like Ned who ironically also rebelled against him and broke his oath as a Lord. He did the right thing even though he broke his vows, but Jaime is forever branded as a traitor.
I do believe that Ned was wrong for judging Jamie too quickly and too harshly without hearing his side of the story. Still, I don't think anyone took notice or looked inside Ned's thoughts on how he saw Jamie as a Lannister because of his father. The Lannisters, at this point, have already had a dishonorable reputation, one that was built on power and fear. Still, his father Tywin has committed three acts that have placed him on the wrong side of the public view, which is why Ned was in no hurry or was in favor of marrying his daughter to Joffrey, who had a 100% Lannister connection. Jamie's father, Tywin, destroyed two vassal houses and their entire lineage. He sacked the city, turning against his king, and his son kills the king, so all of that is in Ned Stark’s head, which is why he judges Jamie, and Ned Stark believes in death before dishonor, which plays a part in Northern tradition.
I think one of the reasons why Jaime makes himself come across as so unlikeable to the other characters in GoT is because of how he was treated after killing the Mad King. If you really think about it, he saved the population of Kings Landing from a terrible fate by killing the Mad King; in a lot of ways it was his hero moment, but instead of being praised and acclaimed for killing a crazy tyrant, he was mocked and scorned and had his name dragged through his he mud as a Kingslayer. All Ned saw when he finally arrived at the throne room was that Jaime had broken a sacred vow to protect his king and that’s the story that got around. Regardless of whether or not the king was killing the innocent, he was still the king and the Kingsguard were his sworn to defend him, and betraying someone you swore to defend is an extremely dishonorable act in a world that holds honor very highly. The books also establish Jaime as someone who really fell for the ideals of honor and being a shining knight defending the weak and innocent and proudly serving his king when he was younger. Becoming the youngest person to enter the order of Kingsguard and taking those vows was the greatest honor of his life to that point, and he wanted to uphold the ideals of what it meant to be a true knight like in the stories. Unfortunately his experience serving the Mad King disillusioned him completely and he became cynical with the concepts and ideals of honor and duty and vows. This comes across when he mocks Jon at the beginning of season 1 for wanting to take his vows and join the Nights Watch (it’s only for life) and when he complains to Catelyn while she’s interrogating him about all the vows a knight has to take and how some of those vows conflict with each other (ie. Obey your king, obey your father, protect the innocent etc, but what happens when the king kills the innocent and orders you to kill your father). He embraced the Kingslayer moniker, someone not to be trusted, in much the same way Tyrion advised Jon to embrace being a bastard and use it as a shield so that no one could use it against him. As Tywin told him in season one, Jaime wants people to think he doesn’t care what they think of him, but the truth is he does. Being the kingslayer wasn’t the reputation or the future he wanted for himself.
Great reaction! So happy you played the scene of Jaime in the tub. One of the best scenes and dialogues in the whole series. Your empathy for Arya melts my heart. Keep it up!
No matter how bad the mad king was, it's viewed as dishonorable to kill the king you swore a oath to. Ned being as honorable as he is did judge Jamie to killing him despite the fact that the mad king had both his father and brother killed. Ned believed that Jamie did it for selfish reasons to further advance his family when in fact he actually did to save thousands of people's lives.
In your sight of the world there exist NO honorable men... but the slaughterers of the history. A honorable oath to do unhonorable things is just an excuse. Jamie is a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms and THAT oath counts. Not an oath to a mad king.
Well if u didnt notice there are several oaths contradicting each other, "defend the innocent", "obey your king"... So even if u want to keep ur oath by disregarding morality, u can't do since u will break one oath at least no matter what u choose...
Its such a small quick detail but the first time we see Shireen is actually in s2e1. When we first meet Stannis. When he goes to walk off at the end of the beach ceremony, he starts but then turns around and puts his hand out for Shireen to come. :) Its just a little subtle detail I love because we dont even end up "meeting" her until a season and 4 episodes later! 😂 Anyways, Keep up the epic work 🤩
“Jamie, my name is Jamie” the backstory of him is actually quite sad. He used to dream of being a knight, honor and all of it. He became the best swordsman, and then killed the king to protect the city. People saw him as dishonorable and terrible, so instead of always battling the stories, he just became what they made of him. It was a boy with dreams and honor buried alive by the persona that people applied to him. That and Cercei at his side, feeding him the cruelty she feels towards the world.
As Ned said to Jaime earlier in the series - he served the Mad King.... when serving was safe. He should have turned on the Mad King long before he was asked to kill his dad. And yes, Ned probably would say to either give him a sword and fight him face to face or capture him to face trial & be executed.
Amazing reactions, as always. Maybe you would like fun fact a little. After filming Season 3, Maisie Williams told Rolling Stones magazine in an interview that during filming, her "I can be your family" dialogue had to be reshoot many times over and again, the director told her to sound that dialogue like "I love you" and kept on takes and retakes until the dialogue reached that emotional depth. Perhaps you might remember what Robert Baratheon told Ned Stark in Season 1? "I have a son, you have a daughter, we will join our houses" :)
in this story everyone takes oath seriously and jaime was 1 of 7 KINGSGUARD and not only that but i believe he was his personal bodyguard him and selmy are the last of the aerys guard and the others died fighting in the war meaning he was supposed to protect the king no matter what. if robert or ned or anyone else killed the king maybe it would tarnish their name since as wardens of their lands they swear an oath to the king but they were in open rebellion and basically had a conquer’s right to kill him so it wouldn’t be as bad as the kings personal body guard who has been by his side the whole rebellion killing him. robert pardoned him and even let him remain in the kings guard but i think that was tywin and his sister influence. many of the realm rly hate him and insult him to his face like tyrion but bc of his surname there is a respect. and over the years i feel like he just basically took on name of kingslayer like a defense mechanism and became more of the asshole he is.
Another good review. I like the fact that you think more deeply about the story, and the consequences of the characters actions. Thing will just keep getting better and better.
I can't blame Ned for judging Jaime. Ned arrives at King's Landing to find the city sacked brutally by Tywin, who until then had been sitting out the war, only joining when Robert's victory was certain. Ned enters the throne room, to see Tywin's son sitting upon the Iron Throne, who mockingly declares that Robert can have that uncomfortable seat. What is Ned supposed to think, if Jaime won't open his mouth to give him more information? But Jaime hides vulnerability behind mockery and nonchalance, and therefore choses to sit the throne and mock it, acting brazenly as a shield against the expected judgement. It's s poor coping mechanism, because it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think Ned would have listened to him, and sympathised. Ned was willing to lie about Joffrey to protect those he loved, he didn't chose hard, cold honour over protecting people. I think Ned would still have argued that Jaime should be punished, sentenced to serve at the Night's Watch perhaps; you can think someone should still be punished for something for the law/honour to be upheld, even if you'd have done the same in their shoes, and willingly taken the punishment. I love the scene with Tywin, Tyrion and Cersei, because we see a rare glimpse of "the real Cersei". When she says "Father, don't make me do it again", that's her all vulnerable, the little girl in her begging her father to please not hurt her again - but he doesn't care. All the Lannister siblings are so, so damaged by Tywin, and you see that here so clearly. They want his respect, his love, but they only get scraps when they obey him completely, and succeed in bringing pride to the Lannister name. There is NO love at all when they show imperfections, or have a will of their own. It's no wonder they turned out the way they did!
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I know 1,000% Ned would never give Jamie a chance to give his side of the story. Neds too honorable
Yes Honarable fool😂. I would have really liked to know what Ned would have done if he was at Jamie's place
Or a Fool.
No he wouldn’t. In his eyes honour was following the rules and keeping oaths and Jaime broke his oath
a would call him close minded, not honorable
Even just the fact that he stabbed him in the back rubbed Ned the wrong way. Ned had an honor stick up his ass Forsure
I get that you want to defend Ned on Jaime’s account, but Jaime exposed a weakness about Ned in that Ned allowed his honor to blind him. Instead of hearing Jaime out, all Ned saw was a disgraceful knight who broke his vow. I argue Ned was the catalyst in Jaime’s Kingslayer persona.
The thing is to an outsider the situation seemed very obvious. Jaime had served the mad King for a year and could have killed him the entire time. He served him loyally. Then an army stormed the city and if Jaime had not killed him he would have been arrested or killed the very same day. If you don't know about the wildfire it seems that the Mad King could have done very little in the remaining hours and it is a natural assumption that Jaime switched from the loosing to the winning side at the last possible moment. I never minded that Jaime killed the King but I saw him as a rat leaving a sinking ship before I heard the story.
He served him well when serving was safe.
@@georgebush67Wrong opinion
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845this is the dumbest thing I have ever read, people are not able to watch the show at all, but since the books have more information, I will have to upset you, but your opinion is completely wrong, to begin with, when Tywin came into the city, Jaime literally helped the king and literally told him not to let his own father into the city! The king did not listen and because of this he was in a losing situation because he allowed Tywin’s army to enter the city, AND I WILL REMIND YOU that there were caches with “wild fire” throughout the City,1 word of the mad king and the entire population of Kingslanding would have burned in a seconds,taking into account Ned Stark and Tywin, only after that Jaime took his sword and first of all killed the pyromancers who could set everything on fire, and then the king himself
@@risotto244 I know, but Ned didn't. I am not saying that what Jaime did was wrong or cowardly, although I think he should have done it sooner. My point is that Ned's opinion is not based on what the readers know, but on what Ned knew. Ned didn't know about the wild fire, so to him it seemed that the Mad King couldn't do much when the city was already stormed and to him based on what he knew Jaime killing the King seemed like an obvious attempt to switch from the loosing to the winning side. I know this is a wrong conclusion, but if I only had the information Ned had at the time I might have I would have probably thought the same, so I find it unfair to judge him to harshly just because we know things he didn't.
26:28 Tyrion Lannister, S1E1: "Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you."
My very favorite thing about this show is that we see the rationale behind character's decisions and then the eventual, inevitable consequences of those decisions.
Ned Stark is a great example. He was a good and honorable man, but he valued his own honor SO highly and seemed to invest next to no thought into how others would respond to his actions. He wasn't a dumb man, but he made any number of really stupid choices. Worse, I feel like if he could be given a second chance, he'd make those stupid choices all over again.
And here comes Robb, following in his father's footsteps. He's already deeply offended the Frey, and now he just lost half of his army!
basically everyone takes oaths very seriously so jaime broke his oath to protect his king and thats why so many people dislike him. like yeah the mad king was a bad person but jaime was still expected to keep his oath to protect him regardless of what he was like.
But as Jaime points out he also took an oath to protect the innocent. What do you do when the lord you swore an oath to commands you to kill the innocent you took an oath to protect?
@@gunkulator1 he didn't really care about the innocent until his father was the one in danger
@@joshhutton9534 Possibly, however this was the first time he was asked to commit the mass murder of innocents. In any case, it was enough to Jaime to break his oath to the king and kill him, thus saving the lives of thousands which ironically earns him the disrespect of almost everyone.
@@gunkulator1 he wasn't about to commit it. The pyromancer was. His order was to kill his father. From Ned's point of view, he had no problem keeping his oath while Ned's father and brother burned alive in front of him. But when his father was next, he broke it.
Jamie makes it plenty clear that he doesn't care about the "common people"
@@joshhutton9534nah before he was treated badly for killing Aerys he was a pretty alright guy, he idolised chivalrous knights like Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy and even Rhaegar Targaryen, it’s part of the reason he was really excited to join the kingsguard despite not understanding it was a slight against Tywin to snatch up his heir
Jaime’s whole thing is about sacrificing honour and oaths to do the right thing in the moment
plus in the books they explore this a bit more and Jaime just goes along with the Kingslayer persona - as if saying “if you think i’m a sleezy oathbreaker i’ll be a sleezy oathbreaker”
Ned called for Jaime to be sent to the nights watch, jaime swore an oath to die defending the king, mad or not
Yet like he said, which part of the oath takes precedence when he’s also sworn to protect the innocent ?
@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett Morally the protecting the innocent should be more important but within this world as a knight of the kings guard id imagine if you don't hold that oath to be the most important then you are going to be looked down upon heavily
This is a great distinction between Secret Service agents and Homeland Security agents. At homeland, your job is to protect and serve the country. As an SS agent, your protectee is the MOST important. Not exactly the same, but it is the only modern day analogy i can draw from.@absolutelyliberated1357
@@Phizzo4real You're absolutely right, a SS agent would be kind of a modern day kingsguard in a sense
The Kingsguard oath is considered one of the most sacred, and he is seen in a negative light because as a kingsguard what he did is universally cursed. HOWEVER, what he did was so noble and honorable it goes to show there's more to Jaime's character than the outward bravado and arrogance he shows.
18:24 I don’t think Ned would have. Ned is as great a man as you perceive him to be but he’s also beholden to duty and honor. A Kingsguard killing his King is as dishonorable as anything in the realm, even if he had good cause. Similar to when Ned executed the Night’s Watch deserter in episode 1. The deserter might’ve been right and had good reason, but law is law and he forsook his oath so Ned had to execute him.
And here's where you see the many problems with Westeros' attitude towards vows. Jaime is sworn to protect his King against all things and give his life if need be, but he is also sworn to protect the innocent, and sworn to obey his father and his superiors; they go into this really well in the books when Jaime tells Catelyn that there are so many vows, so many that it is impossible to uphold every one without dishonoring yourself in some way, enter Ned Stark. Ned is a great man and an honourable to an extreme, and of course to an outsider like Ned, all he sees is a weak-willed kingslayer who gave in when he was pressured. What do you do in that situation? Do you kill your father and watch tens of thousands burn alive? It's a common saying that no man is as cursed as the kinslayer, so who would Jaime really be helping by killing his own family and innocents? Or, do you murder your king, saving countless lives, only now you've disgraced yourself forever as an oathbreaker? Everyone knew Aerys was mad, but it didn't matter to someone like Ned who ironically also rebelled against him and broke his oath as a Lord. He did the right thing even though he broke his vows, but Jaime is forever branded as a traitor.
I do believe that Ned was wrong for judging Jamie too quickly and too harshly without hearing his side of the story. Still, I don't think anyone took notice or looked inside Ned's thoughts on how he saw Jamie as a Lannister because of his father. The Lannisters, at this point, have already had a dishonorable reputation, one that was built on power and fear.
Still, his father Tywin has committed three acts that have placed him on the wrong side of the public view, which is why Ned was in no hurry or was in favor of marrying his daughter to Joffrey, who had a 100% Lannister connection.
Jamie's father, Tywin, destroyed two vassal houses and their entire lineage. He sacked the city, turning against his king, and his son kills the king, so all of that is in Ned Stark’s head, which is why he judges Jamie, and Ned Stark believes in death before dishonor, which plays a part in Northern tradition.
Often as soon as the reaction is over I turn videos off but I really enjoyed how you summed it all up the end.
I think one of the reasons why Jaime makes himself come across as so unlikeable to the other characters in GoT is because of how he was treated after killing the Mad King.
If you really think about it, he saved the population of Kings Landing from a terrible fate by killing the Mad King; in a lot of ways it was his hero moment, but instead of being praised and acclaimed for killing a crazy tyrant, he was mocked and scorned and had his name dragged through his he mud as a Kingslayer. All Ned saw when he finally arrived at the throne room was that Jaime had broken a sacred vow to protect his king and that’s the story that got around. Regardless of whether or not the king was killing the innocent, he was still the king and the Kingsguard were his sworn to defend him, and betraying someone you swore to defend is an extremely dishonorable act in a world that holds honor very highly.
The books also establish Jaime as someone who really fell for the ideals of honor and being a shining knight defending the weak and innocent and proudly serving his king when he was younger. Becoming the youngest person to enter the order of Kingsguard and taking those vows was the greatest honor of his life to that point, and he wanted to uphold the ideals of what it meant to be a true knight like in the stories. Unfortunately his experience serving the Mad King disillusioned him completely and he became cynical with the concepts and ideals of honor and duty and vows. This comes across when he mocks Jon at the beginning of season 1 for wanting to take his vows and join the Nights Watch (it’s only for life) and when he complains to Catelyn while she’s interrogating him about all the vows a knight has to take and how some of those vows conflict with each other (ie. Obey your king, obey your father, protect the innocent etc, but what happens when the king kills the innocent and orders you to kill your father).
He embraced the Kingslayer moniker, someone not to be trusted, in much the same way Tyrion advised Jon to embrace being a bastard and use it as a shield so that no one could use it against him. As Tywin told him in season one, Jaime wants people to think he doesn’t care what they think of him, but the truth is he does. Being the kingslayer wasn’t the reputation or the future he wanted for himself.
Great reaction! So happy you played the scene of Jaime in the tub. One of the best scenes and dialogues in the whole series. Your empathy for Arya melts my heart. Keep it up!
No matter how bad the mad king was, it's viewed as dishonorable to kill the king you swore a oath to. Ned being as honorable as he is did judge Jamie to killing him despite the fact that the mad king had both his father and brother killed. Ned believed that Jamie did it for selfish reasons to further advance his family when in fact he actually did to save thousands of people's lives.
In your sight of the world there exist NO honorable men... but the slaughterers of the history.
A honorable oath to do unhonorable things is just an excuse.
Jamie is a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms and THAT oath counts. Not an oath to a mad king.
Well if u didnt notice there are several oaths contradicting each other, "defend the innocent", "obey your king"... So even if u want to keep ur oath by disregarding morality, u can't do since u will break one oath at least no matter what u choose...
Its such a small quick detail but the first time we see Shireen is actually in s2e1. When we first meet Stannis. When he goes to walk off at the end of the beach ceremony, he starts but then turns around and puts his hand out for Shireen to come. :)
Its just a little subtle detail I love because we dont even end up "meeting" her until a season and 4 episodes later! 😂
Anyways,
Keep up the epic work 🤩
Genuinely one of my fav episodes of the series.
“Jamie, my name is Jamie” the backstory of him is actually quite sad. He used to dream of being a knight, honor and all of it. He became the best swordsman, and then killed the king to protect the city. People saw him as dishonorable and terrible, so instead of always battling the stories, he just became what they made of him. It was a boy with dreams and honor buried alive by the persona that people applied to him. That and Cercei at his side, feeding him the cruelty she feels towards the world.
This is one of my favorite episodes. Packed with fun. Jaime's soliloquy & Stannis' dead boys then the epic ending. That ending scene is just the best.
As Ned said to Jaime earlier in the series - he served the Mad King.... when serving was safe. He should have turned on the Mad King long before he was asked to kill his dad. And yes, Ned probably would say to either give him a sword and fight him face to face or capture him to face trial & be executed.
The episode with the two memorable bathing scenes!
The Night's Watch takes an oath to not take wives or father children, it says nothing about smooshing
Amazing reactions, as always. Maybe you would like fun fact a little. After filming Season 3, Maisie Williams told Rolling Stones magazine in an interview that during filming, her "I can be your family" dialogue had to be reshoot many times over and again, the director told her to sound that dialogue like "I love you" and kept on takes and retakes until the dialogue reached that emotional depth. Perhaps you might remember what Robert Baratheon told Ned Stark in Season 1? "I have a son, you have a daughter, we will join our houses" :)
Beric Dondarrion has 100 proof blood😎
Tywin wiped off Cersei's smirk pretty quickly
in this story everyone takes oath seriously and jaime was 1 of 7 KINGSGUARD and not only that but i believe he was his personal bodyguard him and selmy are the last of the aerys guard and the others died fighting in the war meaning he was supposed to protect the king no matter what. if robert or ned or anyone else killed the king maybe it would tarnish their name since as wardens of their lands they swear an oath to the king but they were in open rebellion and basically had a conquer’s right to kill him so it wouldn’t be as bad as the kings personal body guard who has been by his side the whole rebellion killing him. robert pardoned him and even let him remain in the kings guard but i think that was tywin and his sister influence. many of the realm rly hate him and insult him to his face like tyrion but bc of his surname there is a respect. and over the years i feel like he just basically took on name of kingslayer like a defense mechanism and became more of the asshole he is.
Shireen and Ser Davos are so wholesome 🥹
Ned definitely judged Lannisters in one light
Another good review. I like the fact that you think more deeply about the story, and the consequences of the characters actions. Thing will just keep getting better and better.
I can't blame Ned for judging Jaime. Ned arrives at King's Landing to find the city sacked brutally by Tywin, who until then had been sitting out the war, only joining when Robert's victory was certain. Ned enters the throne room, to see Tywin's son sitting upon the Iron Throne, who mockingly declares that Robert can have that uncomfortable seat. What is Ned supposed to think, if Jaime won't open his mouth to give him more information?
But Jaime hides vulnerability behind mockery and nonchalance, and therefore choses to sit the throne and mock it, acting brazenly as a shield against the expected judgement. It's s poor coping mechanism, because it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think Ned would have listened to him, and sympathised. Ned was willing to lie about Joffrey to protect those he loved, he didn't chose hard, cold honour over protecting people. I think Ned would still have argued that Jaime should be punished, sentenced to serve at the Night's Watch perhaps; you can think someone should still be punished for something for the law/honour to be upheld, even if you'd have done the same in their shoes, and willingly taken the punishment.
I love the scene with Tywin, Tyrion and Cersei, because we see a rare glimpse of "the real Cersei". When she says "Father, don't make me do it again", that's her all vulnerable, the little girl in her begging her father to please not hurt her again - but he doesn't care. All the Lannister siblings are so, so damaged by Tywin, and you see that here so clearly. They want his respect, his love, but they only get scraps when they obey him completely, and succeed in bringing pride to the Lannister name. There is NO love at all when they show imperfections, or have a will of their own. It's no wonder they turned out the way they did!
Kiss by fire is the purest kiss🔥💋
jamie stark :D 30:55
I love jaime Lannister
Incredibly compelling character.
@@Skirne he is my favorite character in the series
Will the real Cersei Lannister please step forward? 😉
12:53
Where are the history and lore video's ???
Hey, recently started watch GOT with you, enjoying watching it all again. Your channel seems to be taking off, do you have any tips for a small youtuber who's struggling to get going?
Make better content
Give up because your content sucks
"They were boys!".
oh noo... this reacter wouldn´t stand silent beside a massacre... she would blame the "wrong words". Wokies at their best. Blablabla.