here some stuff that I know that I think might fit in the iceberg : the existence of eternal Floette's signature move light of ruin, the tale about many heads haunting a man in kalos that lives in a abandoned mansion, Sabrina 's mewtwo, Guzzlord lives in a destroyed rustboro city and this last one isn't a actual concrete thing but I have clear memory of ghetisis without his eye visor thing but his eye looked like a deflated balloon dripping out of his eye socket without any blood or anything similar, does anybody else remember this?
@@ludnberg1536 I haven't heard about the Guzzlord one. I don't remember anything like that from Ghetisis, but I do remember seeing concept art of him with both eyes showing
You forgot about the little ghost girl of Hammerlocke. She asks you to deliver a letter to her crush, Frank, in Ballonlea. Only when you get there, you find out Frank is actually an old man. When you deliver the letter to him, he reveals that she was a childhood friend of his that disappeared after they had a fight. He later found out she was sick after her disappearance and asks if she's okay (you can choose to be silent or say that she's fine, much to his relief). When you go back to where the girl was, she's gone.
Yeah, you can also go back afterwards to where she is, and mash A until you get a text box thanking you for delivering the letter. After that you get an item called Reaper's cloth, don't know what it's for tho
@@itsalsorowan I believe the reaper cloth is like for evolving a dusclop via trading, which is a ghost pokémon. Which just solidifies that yeah she's probably a ghost.
I think every pokemon game since Gen 4 has some sort of paranormal stuffs like that. In gen 4 it was the woman that disappeared the moment you re-enter the house (Route 217?) and also the Old Chateau. In gen 5 games there were the bridge jumping and the haunted house. Gen 6 got hex maniac. I think it's a tradition at this point to have something like them. Anyway does SWSH has this kind of stuffs?
26:36 Eric Stuart, voice of Brock and James, has explained why he said the “4Kids are the devil” line. When the 4Kids dub of the anime was occurring, anime dubbing was considered “non-union work”, which meant actors got paid much less than the union hourly minimum and it didn’t count towards them receiving benefits/insurance through the SAG union. The way most actors on the show made their salary and got their benefits was through commercial ties with Pokémon (i.e A Burger King Commercial featuring a few Ash lines and Pokémon cries). However, as the show continued, 4Kids gave the advertising companies those voice lines for free, meaning the actors would not get paid for them anymore. Eric Stuart got really upset and decided to record the line, and the sound engineer flipped it and put it in show. He said he had to pay around 1000 dollars to re-record the master copy of the episode
I love how Lavender Town's back in the days was like the scariest shit ever and now it's just a meme. I remember when I was a kid and my friends were like "dude no don't put lavender town or we'll feel sick and die" great times.
Reminds me of the G-man from Half Life. I used to wonder who this mysterius man in a bussines suit was and why he was stalking me. Now he is just a meme.
Flareon, a fire dog which has fire abilities : *is trapped in a burning building* Also Flareon : fricking dies Vaporeon, a water dog which can infinitely shoot water, is strong to fire, can put out fire out with its water : *is trapped in a burning building* Also vaporeon : fricking dies
Dude, I remember as a kid, a friend of mine had mew and he told me about this truck thing. I freaked the f out and never got him lol. Anyways, good memories. Simpler time when I was sure I was bound to become a elite pokemon trainer lol
You forgot one: On 4chan there was a thread where someone asked people to draw their favorite Pokémon from memory. One person drew a Pokémon called “tentaquill” it quickly became a meme and everyone started making fun of it because it was dumb. Years later, the Pokémon gold beta was leaked. Guess what Pokémon was in it? That right. Tentaquill. It wasn’t called that but the art was almost identical. Either this guy was one of the few people that played the beat in Japan, or he posted from an alternate universe where tentaquill got put in the game.
If you think about it. Every anime or games has the "coma" theory. I think it's just people being desperate to make more mysterious, something that was just made for kids/teens and is pure fiction. Some people just want to make connections to reality for some reason. I clearly remember when I was a kid and all of my friends were like "omg Doraemon is all a coma" and that applied to basically every single thing I liked at that times. Digimon, Pokèmon, FF, Mario, Zelda. and more. I never believed in it and I think deep down nobody ever did. It's just funny how far people went to "prove" it.
I think every installment in the Pokémon anime it’s like different universes because ash looks completely different in every new game and same with pikachu and ash never keeps his own old Pokémon like in the galar anime ash just has pikachu and not like his charizard and like squirtle and like his legendary Pokémon he doesn’t have but it’s just a theory
Idk if yall ever heard about this one ,but in when 5th grade , their was this rumor where if you released a jiggly puff in lavender town , the crying jiggly puff would appear and erase all of your saved data. Pretty scary for an 11 year old
I can only speak of my experiences as a kid when it happened, but everyone I knew thought it was a new legendary. If I think about it, it's not too farfetched (hah pun) for kids to think that. Mew is a small and cute Pokémon that also happens to be one of the strongest. We only had gen 1 to go by at the time so when thinking about it, we have to exclude every single gen besides the first.
#JusticeForPorygon Not sure if it was in this vid because I only watched the bottom two levels, but the only place you can hear Porygon2 and Porygon-Z's anime cries are in some obscure spinoff game that I forgot the name of
I don’t remember many details, but in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, there is this couple that you do a double battle with. One of them uses cloyster. The other uses onix. They are husband and wife. This was a meme about the, probably, naughty developers
I thought I heard every single theory but Victini being an A-bomb blew my mind. I've never heard this one and now I can't unsee it. It makes so much sense now.
Miguel Rodrigues yeah but what sounds more interesting? Agatha and Oak were lovers who separate from each other and hate each other or Agatha is just the other Grandparent
In the manga , oak and agatha hate each other and agatha has a grudge against blue and oak. Oak also defeated her in a tournament.(kangaskhan's dizzy punch or something beat her gengar idk how i thought gengar was immune to normal types maybe a special ability) and then agatha got mad that such a strong trainer was "wasting his ability" to do research and pokedex stuff instead of battling i think. Idk i read the manga like 7 years ago😂 also bertha and agatha look so similar
My explanation for npcs using underleveled pokemon is this: maybe the levels arent set in stone. Maybe YOUR dragonite evolved at 60 but not all evlove exactly at 60 but rather 60ish. For the sake of simplicity, the devs made it so every pokemon you catch will evolve at the same level, but if you were a person actually living in the pokemon world there's more of a gray area. And a skilled trainer can get their pokemon to evolve sooner.
I've always thought of it this way. What we're seeing isn't an exact representation of the Pokémon world. We're seeing a simplified version of it, where the rules and limits of gameplay mechanics come into play. Instead of real living cities with millions of people, we're seeing cities with like 10 buildings and 20 people. We don't get to see Pokémon acting like wild animals like the pokédex suggests, and for the sake of gameplay, every Pokémon hatches from an egg - even though that is canonically not the case at all. I never saw the NPCs using underleveled Pokémon as a problem, because they're only underleveled from our perspective as a player of the game, not as a character within that world.
I actually have a theory for how the animal names such as “The Land Shark Pokémon” were created. Since there are multiple dog/cat Pokémon, the creators of the Pokédexes decided to create names for each of these similar Pokémon to group them together.
As someone who trained with VGC regulars, a lot of “perfect” Pokémon are definitely hacked. “As long as the moves and stats are legal, [the judges] dont care,” I’d always hear.
TheRogueRush it won’t change anytime soon, even in gen 5 you could just download pokes from the net and put them on your cart. I personally believe that when the games make it easier to min max perfect pokes, hacking diminishes (we used to have to hack x99 for TMs because it was insane to play a new save file just to teach a Pokémon earthquake, then gen 6 made them reusable). No clue why gen 7 onwards made it harder to do such instead.
Yeah, I know of at least a couple of times that big name competitors had hacked Pokemon that were caught only because they had impossible combinations, like Pokemon with event only moves, that were in the wrong ball. and every time it's always some ridiculous story like; they got it from a friend who assured them it was real or something... Honestly, since it can't be enforced it shouldn't even be a rule.
Two inaccuracies with the Racist Gengar: -The James cosplayer spoke up to confirm he did not distribute the Gengar. The eyewitness descriptions mentioned the culprit was dressed as a Team Rocket Grunt, but not specifically James. -The posters were put up for a DIFFERENT fake event in which someone was distributing a non-racist Eevee.
@@TheRogueRenegade Right, it might also be why we associate some specially weird looking animals (like maybe the axoltl) to pokemon instead to other animals when we first see them
10:27 -there's a bit more to this theory. In an endgame area you meet a Zorark, one you've actually been hinted at meeting multiple times disguised as a man an he talks to you in perfect english, chatting with you about your journey up to that point. Ns room is filled completely to the brim with toys meant for a small child and we've seen both in games as well as in the anime that pokemon, even very intelligent ones like Mewtwo have an affinity for childish toys. It'd be strange that N, up into his later teens early 20s would be so obsessed with such childish things. N is also shown at multiple points to directly communicate with Pokemon, something only other Pokemon have ever been seen to do, at least to a legitimately meaningful degree. I'd argue it's heavily implied N definitely is a Pokemon.
Just want to point out that in black and white one of N's pokemon in the battle where he has reshiram or zekrom he has a zoroark on his team. Don't know if this changes anything but just thought I'd mention
@@SheutDL the theory rides on the fact that when you chase the Zorark through the tower where it dead ends with no Zorark, N doesn't have one on his team there and he has a full team of 6
There's an entire NSFW subreddit dedicated to the Hex Maniac. r/SexManiac if you curious. It's on the verge of being a dead subreddit though but it's there if you wanna check out some Hex Maniac pics.
I saw something on pinterest where it was a pokemon book that showed the anotomy and explained things on the pokemon. Ditto was on it and it had little web feet think like psyduck but small and redish toned. Not saying its was some official thing, But the most probable ive seen
I actually have three to add. In Pokemon Master's it is implied that Iris and Leon are cousins. Also in Masters, Red actually speaks. The reasoning for him never speaking is because of how strong of a bond he and his Pokemon have, so they can use moves without Red having to say anything. Finally, in Snowbelle City it snows differently in town one day (Can't remember) to remember Iwata.
Here are a few that hasn't been stated in this video. 1. Giovanni's Suicide Rumor: In HG/SS's Celebi Event, after you defeat Giovanni, he commits suicide when he exits the cave, which is behind a waterfall and above the ground. Of course its' debunk. 2. Silver is Giovanni's Son. Don't really know if this is a secret tho. Probably the tip of the Iceburg. 3. The dumb, Ash is in a coma theory. 4. The anime purposely change the female companions for Ash every show because they do not want the boys who watch the show to get bored with the girls on screen. 5. The move "Thrash" in Pokemon B/W sounds just like the beginning of the Super Mario Bros. theme. 6. Giratina and Arceus are suppose to be parallels to God and Satan. 7. You can skip the ghost fight in Red/Blue by giving the ghost a poke doll. The Battle ends as if you defeated it. 8. The Pokemon Lost Silver creepypasta 9. Wailord and Skitty are in the same egg group and can mate with each other. 10. Pikablue was a thing 11. Trading a pokemon from R/S/E to Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire will give the player a special message. 12. Pokemon Gen 1 has such broken mechanics compared to the Gen's today. There's a list of it somewhere on the internet. 13. The cut opening to Pokemon Mewtwo Strikes Back
"A few" lol. I was going to put some of these on the iceberg but either forgot or decided not to, can't remember which. I didn't know about 4 and 5 though. They're pretty interesting
@@mageofshadow Giratina is not the devil and the Distortion World is not Hell. Giratina is the embodiment of antimatter (stated both in-game and in an interview) and the violence it was banished for is a reference to the violent reaction when matter comes into contact with antimatter.
Oh yeah. I know how you do that. You take the game cartridge, set it outside, pour gasoline on it, light it up, and just like that, all your Pokémon evolve into charcoal
Since you mentioned to comment something that could be added to the iceberg, how about multi-universal Lanturn? Basically, someone mathematically calculated that based on one of the Pokedex entries, Lanturn's light is essentially strong enough to destroy the universe
If Team Galactic really wanted to destroy the Universe and build it anew, they should have started by catching Lanturns. Maybe that's why they searched the lakes of Sinnoh?
don't forget about how Lugia's voice in the Pokemon 2000 movie was supposed to be a women's voice, like a mother. and how the Pokemon 2000 movie was meant to be the end of Pokemon story. Dr Lava has a really cool article translating and explaining Takeshi Shudo's blog he made before his death, if you haven't seen it.
TheRogueRush yeah, the reason why the first Pokemon movie was so dark was because he was thrown the keys and told to do whatever, since they were still dealing with the fallout of the Porygon episode at the time and they barely supervised him. and when it was so successful, they did the same thing again for the second movie lol. super interesting stuff, but also pretty sad, considering his life towards his untimely demise.
Why didn't you say the rest of the war theory? The theory is because there are so few able-bodied fighting age men around Kanto. The ones that are there are in the mob (Team Rocket) and could thus dodge the draft. The majority of people in Kanto are children running around unsupervised, sailors, and women. There are even references to pokemon being used for terrorism and other implications of harm against people.
Most of them I didn't go much into detail since I didn't want a 2 hour video. Also, there's plenty of theories on the war, so I won't know all of them sadly. Thanks for bringing it up though, it's pretty interesting
You didnt go into depth with any of them... Why do u care how long it is? Plenty of people are successful with long videos. I wouldve rather known the details. Maybe you could have made a couple videos
I'm not trying to be rude, this is an honest question to anyone in the comments here; Do you guys believe in the "everyone has a personal cartridge" phenomenon? It's often talked about with Zelda Ocarina of Time, and Majora's Mask. I'm curious. It's an exciting concept to think about, but I'm just not sure about it.
Ngl the concept of an 'Unkown King' actually seems really cool. Also, if Gamefreak did something like that, Unkown would actually contribute something outside of lore!
23:01 I used an action replay all the time on my gen 4 games, so I would walk through walls and just travel through the mystery zones as I played the game. Grew up with that, it really has a nostalgic feel for me now.
same here! my brother and i shared an action replay and it was fun going through gen 4 just being as much of a menace as possible. walking through walls, catching opponents pokémon- good times man
Is the Pokémon section of my brain the reason why I knew so much of this, even quite far down the iceberg? Still, I definitely learnt some new stuff from this and it was thoroughly enjoyable!
What's still the most impressive to me is how the creators of Pokemon made something with so much mystery and wonder that it has fueled all of these rumors for so long. When you build such big, creative worlds full of so many secrets, it really starts to seem like anything is possible and almost any plausible theory is going to become fan legend overnight.
"Missingno could delete your save by not being able to process level 0 pokemon" Me, frothing at the mouth in all of my hyperspecific computer science knowledge who knows exactly what missingno is and what it actually does to your save.
26:35 So, I actually went to a small event where Eric Stuart (original voice of Brock and James) let us ask him questions among other things. Someone actually asked him about the "4kids and the devil" thing and according to him the reason he did this was because he was mad at 4Kids. At the time, they would have him do lines for their commercials and he'd be paid every time, like Burger Kings. However, 4Kids did several dickish moves to him, mostly how they started to use lines from the show instead and didn't pay the voice actors for them, which cut a significant part of their salary out. He was mad about this so he had this slipped in. I remember some other stuff from it too so if anyone wants to know some other stories I'll talk about them lol
@@Veilure He was very happy of his VC work for Metaknight where he portrayed him as having a Spanish accent. If I remember correctly this was a reference to Zorro? Not sure. I believe he might have been unsure of it at first because people didn't really like it, but when a young Spanish boy came up to him one day and started talking about how he was happy one of his favorite, cool characters sounded like him, Eric decided that it was good to continue it and he took pride in it.
Something to add is that in one of the gen 2 games the anti piracy thing was your pokemon saying they won’t listen to a criminal even though the rival literally could have stole the Pokémon you chose and it would listen to them anyway
@@sergiorubens8475 Not exactly, he commits suicide on the timelines where Team Rocket loses, and the Mega timeline is one of them, alongside the original one of course. But on the timeline where Team Rocket wins, Giovanni's still alive. The only reason he appears on the Mega timeline is because he got 'teleported' from the timeline where TR wins to that Rainbow event.
@@Saithiel usum is the universe that rocket won. Gio didnt get teleported by colress. He has his own teleporter. That's how he brought the group together.
Man, I miss when burger king had their pokemon toys. I remember I got a gold plated mewtwo card. Sadly, my moms ex husband took it in the divorce. I recently offered to buy it. But he apparently sold it a couple years ago to buy a pack of smokes.
@@b4Sed1593 its not about buying it. Its the fact that he took something that was precious to me and sold it, cause it meant nothing to him. I got that card going out to eat with my great grandfather, who passed when I was 12.
"In Diamond and Pearl, There was a book that told us, It was normal to have [18:28] relationships with Pokemon" Every Vaporeon On Poké Earth : "Why do I hear boss music ?"
Sorry if this was mentioned already, but I found AZ's floette really intresting. It had a model in gen 6, had a small reference in ORAS, different base stats from normal floette and its own signature move. However, no seperate dex entry. Until USUM, where AZ's floette suddenly gained 2 dex entries SEPERATE from normal floette talking about the terrifying power it holds.
you were able to hack it into ORAS using a specific method, the method itself was patched but i was able to get one, kept it and eventually transferred it into Pokemon Home, where it oddly didn't have an icon in the box screen (it was just a grey pokeball symbol) but a full HD model. Interesting...
I think it was a hint at a sequel to X and Y. because in an interview morimoto was asked for a hint to the next pokemon game and said it was "about a flower" which could mean AZ's floette, or it could have meant lillie, who is named after a flower in both english and japanese and played a big role in sun and moon.
Not gonna lie, as much I enjoyed this, I feel like you need to slow down, friend. I had to rewind a countless number of times to listen again to catch what you said. :(
I think it's based on stuff that's known, being on pokemon youtube will let you know tip of the iceberg things, you can stumble upon middle, but you have to research for abyss
A kid on the playground told me that a partially destroyed Pokemon Red Cartridge would have weird glitches like Charizard's head coming out the top of PokeCenters. My brother caught me trying to smash my copy of the game... Funny how kids will believe absolutely anything.
I'm super late to the party here, but this was a really great video. 12:54 the funny thing is, the _only reason_ Dragonite gets Barrier in Gen 6 is because of an event. The Dragonite in question which was distributed was literally called "Lance's Dragonite" and is a reference to his Gen 1 Dragonite, which is level 62 and has all of its Gen 1 moves, including Barrier. It's honestly just funny to me that the only way the actual player can get a Barrier Dragonite is because it's an exact copy of Lance's incorrect one.
the "no, you’re not the one" girl makes me kinda nostalgic. i remember telling all my friends (that also played pokemon) the next day at school that i saw this weird girl floating... and i was so convinced that there was something wrong with my game xD
But has anyone ACTUALLY found one since then? Glitch or not, the fact that we don't have people hunting Monochrome Pokemon like shinies makes me feel that the whole thing was a hoax.
Yeah, but there wouldn't really be anything to gain from it. It's apparently rarer than a shiny, and just goes back to normal after caught. I don't think people would do it without an incentive
@@TheRogueRenegade I heard they stay monochrome after caught (as shown by some of the pictures you used showing them in the trainer menu), it's only when the game is turned off and some other circumstances that they revert to normal colors. From what I remember, they're estimated to be 10 times rarer than shinies, but people on the internet are madlads, so if someone would go as far as to break the law to obtain Beta Gold, you would think that at least one person would livestream themselves hunting for one of these things. All it would take is setting the game to the initial version and a lot of time. It's so weird how undocumented it all is. Like, there's a few GameFAQs articles from 2013 and a dozen or so photos from around that time, but that's the only proof we have. If I may contradict what I said earlier, I don't think the monochrome phenomina is down to chance, it's a texture glitch, so it must have a scientifically provable cause, like sleep modeing on specific frames, having a specific number of pokemon in the pc, or trainer id. Gosh, now I'm all excited wondering if they're even real.
I believe the "VGC misconduct" thing is referring to an incident where a team of players got kicked out of a hotel for throwing human feces at each other. Anyways, nice vid.
I was searching everywhere for what VGC Misconduct was, but I didn't find anything so I made my own conclusion. I can't believe that actually happened though
@@TheRogueRenegade I'd thought it was the incident where people brought guns to one of the tournaments. They posted about it on Facebook and were arrested before they got inside.
It was at an event in Birmingham UK, spanish team of VGC players did fling poo on their hotels corridor. The gun incident also is real, players never made it into the hall fortunately, authorities were alerted beforehand and security has been enormously increased at Pokemon Worlds afterwards, most everyone at the event knew nothing until after the event.
I still have a bunch of those Pokeballs from the Burger King promotion toys. They're the size of an apple. There's no way a kid could even begin to get one of those things in their mouth let alone choke on them.
I feel like some of these are cut off a little sharply, and lacking some depth. EG: Genisect is Kabutops, it abruptly stops, after only saying that Kabutops is also really old. No mention of any similarities between the two, just... Next thing!
Yeah, i see what you mean. I wanted to briefly touch upon these topics because the video was already long enough. If I went into depth, the video would easily be around 2 hours long
@@TheRogueRenegade Nothing wrong with a longer video. People can stop part way if they're not up for the full length, and greater depth and explanations are usually why people come to an iceberg explanation. At least that's why I do. I liked the video overall, mind. I'd like to see more of you'd be interested in doing more.
I struggled to export a 45 minute video, I have no clue if I could even export a 2 hour long one lol. I think most people would be scared away or get bored. I don't know if I'll do another iceberg, but I know I'll definitely post more in the future. Thank you!
@@acrid8952 I guess it just depends on the video. I've had my comments automatically deleted for having hard swear words. Then I'd retype the same comment with the swear left out and it stayed. I'd say frick just so my stuff doesn't get deleted lol
@@TheRogueRenegade The falling Diamond dust is well documented, while the encounter rates is resent info, I think you had the right idea taking the later and not the former
Comment what you think should be added to the iceberg. I'd love to hear what you all have to share!
Theres nobidy here matthew. You dont have 10 million followers to be askin this lmaoooo
@@Juggernaut16 Bruh why you so negative
here some stuff that I know that I think might fit in the iceberg :
the existence of eternal Floette's signature move light of ruin, the tale about many heads haunting a man in kalos that lives in a abandoned mansion, Sabrina 's mewtwo, Guzzlord lives in a destroyed rustboro city
and this last one isn't
a actual concrete thing but I have clear memory of ghetisis without his eye visor thing but his eye looked like a deflated balloon dripping out of his eye socket without any blood or anything similar, does anybody else remember this?
@@ludnberg1536 I haven't heard about the Guzzlord one. I don't remember anything like that from Ghetisis, but I do remember seeing concept art of him with both eyes showing
@@TheRogueRenegade congratulations. Your first comment on this besides me
the weird gap between parts at 29:03 was the creepiest part of this video
i wonder what that was about..
Imagine if the music cut out though
@@phrastro7075 moment of silence for those innocent lives lost
ikr, i was just waiting to get jumpscared... but the effect of putting nothing in there was even worse
For some reason the part that showed ballio creeped me out the most
Idk something about ballio’s design just looks creepy to me
You forgot about the little ghost girl of Hammerlocke. She asks you to deliver a letter to her crush, Frank, in Ballonlea. Only when you get there, you find out Frank is actually an old man. When you deliver the letter to him, he reveals that she was a childhood friend of his that disappeared after they had a fight. He later found out she was sick after her disappearance and asks if she's okay (you can choose to be silent or say that she's fine, much to his relief). When you go back to where the girl was, she's gone.
yeah, noticed this as well.
Yeah, you can also go back afterwards to where she is, and mash A until you get a text box thanking you for delivering the letter. After that you get an item called Reaper's cloth, don't know what it's for tho
@@itsalsorowan I believe the reaper cloth is like for evolving a dusclop via trading, which is a ghost pokémon. Which just solidifies that yeah she's probably a ghost.
I think every pokemon game since Gen 4 has some sort of paranormal stuffs like that. In gen 4 it was the woman that disappeared the moment you re-enter the house (Route 217?) and also the Old Chateau. In gen 5 games there were the bridge jumping and the haunted house. Gen 6 got hex maniac. I think it's a tradition at this point to have something like them. Anyway does SWSH has this kind of stuffs?
@@junilog Yep! The ghost girl of Hammerlocke that I talked about is from Sword and Shield :)
the "corrupted hand of god" sounds way too badass to be in pokemon canon
GameFreak either has no idea, or they did do it on purpose
Kirby canon, on the other hand...
Kirby is a demon slayer
@@TheRogueRenegade more like eldritch multiversal god slayer.
Bruh it sounds like an SMT boss
26:36 Eric Stuart, voice of Brock and James, has explained why he said the “4Kids are the devil” line. When the 4Kids dub of the anime was occurring, anime dubbing was considered “non-union work”, which meant actors got paid much less than the union hourly minimum and it didn’t count towards them receiving benefits/insurance through the SAG union. The way most actors on the show made their salary and got their benefits was through commercial ties with Pokémon (i.e A Burger King Commercial featuring a few Ash lines and Pokémon cries).
However, as the show continued, 4Kids gave the advertising companies those voice lines for free, meaning the actors would not get paid for them anymore. Eric Stuart got really upset and decided to record the line, and the sound engineer flipped it and put it in show. He said he had to pay around 1000 dollars to re-record the master copy of the episode
Leo Burnett was the name of the advertising agency by the way
legend
thanks
I love how Lavender Town's back in the days was like the scariest shit ever and now it's just a meme.
I remember when I was a kid and my friends were like "dude no don't put lavender town or we'll feel sick and die"
great times.
ah, same here, now with smile n such
I remember I used to be terrified of that song and would when ever my sister played it.
but i had to puke after listening to it.
Ye
Reminds me of the G-man from Half Life. I used to wonder who this mysterius man in a bussines suit was and why he was stalking me. Now he is just a meme.
29:05 why is that pause soooooo long i thought there will be a jumpscare
The suspense is enough to kill ;)
@@TheRogueRenegade lol I thought it was an awkward silence
That’s one dramatic pause.
R'n'B moment of honour to victims of the bomb?
I was so on edge 😂
Flareon, a fire dog which has fire abilities : *is trapped in a burning building*
Also Flareon : fricking dies
Vaporeon, a water dog which can infinitely shoot water, is strong to fire, can put out fire out with its water : *is trapped in a burning building*
Also vaporeon : fricking dies
Explanation: It had the hidden ability guts
it still takes damage from fire type attacks, so....
Maybe it died from the rubble? Or the smoke. I'm guessing the former.
@@katking9574 flareon has flash fire ability tho
@@ultimategamer4010 does every single last one of them do? no? then tada.
imagine being the guy that invented the mew truck rumour, he touched the brains of like on billion people
@Google Needs TobeBombed really ?
Dude, I remember as a kid, a friend of mine had mew and he told me about this truck thing. I freaked the f out and never got him lol.
Anyways, good memories. Simpler time when I was sure I was bound to become a elite pokemon trainer lol
Rumour, he touched the brain of like on billon people
Fun fact! If you go there in Pokemon firered/leafgreen, the truck is there. Little easteregg
Actually, this rumour is a fact. You can't move the truck, but you can talk to it. And that wil trigger the encounter with Mew.
You forgot one:
On 4chan there was a thread where someone asked people to draw their favorite Pokémon from memory. One person drew a Pokémon called “tentaquill” it quickly became a meme and everyone started making fun of it because it was dumb. Years later, the Pokémon gold beta was leaked. Guess what Pokémon was in it? That right. Tentaquill. It wasn’t called that but the art was almost identical. Either this guy was one of the few people that played the beat in Japan, or he posted from an alternate universe where tentaquill got put in the game.
I can't believe I forgot that one! I watched a video about it a while back
TheRogueRush it’s one of my fav! I always love those obscure 4chan mysteries, and this is one of the most infamous
@@quopquop1506 Wtf that just blew my fucking mind, is it like a Mandela effect or some shit?
PaPa -Tello
Yep! That’s what the theory is about, Super cool mystery honestly
Mandela effect don't exist. Most cases can be easily explained.
Say it with me folks:
"Main character is in a coma/is dead/nothing in the story is real" is NOT a real theory or conspiracy
WHY IS EVERY NINTENDO THEROY HAVE THE MAIN CHARACTER IN A COMA
If you think about it. Every anime or games has the "coma" theory. I think it's just people being desperate to make more mysterious, something that was just made for kids/teens and is pure fiction. Some people just want to make connections to reality for some reason. I clearly remember when I was a kid and all of my friends were like "omg Doraemon is all a coma" and that applied to basically every single thing I liked at that times. Digimon, Pokèmon, FF, Mario, Zelda. and more.
I never believed in it and I think deep down nobody ever did.
It's just funny how far people went to "prove" it.
It was all just a dream theory’s suck
I think every installment in the Pokémon anime it’s like different universes because ash looks completely different in every new game and same with pikachu and ash never keeps his own old Pokémon like in the galar anime ash just has pikachu and not like his charizard and like squirtle and like his legendary Pokémon he doesn’t have but it’s just a theory
Couldn't it be if there's evidence for it?
If Mewtwo is so good... why isnt there a Mewtwo 2
Omg you're right
Mewtwo X and Y: are we a joke to you?
Mewthree fool
@@reynaldoray7539 R/wooosh
Mewtwo²
The "Diamond and Pearl remakes confirmed" joke aged very well
I'm a prophet
yeah that was quite the "guess"
Gen 2 explicitly confirms that people eat Pokemon-- Slowpoke tails are a delicacy.
And in Gen 5, Basculin are said to be very tasty
And in the anime after the SS Anne sank everyone was imagining eating james' magikarp
Doesnt gen 2 practically give a recipe on how a shuckle tastes with berries
You can also make Slowpoke tail curry in gen 8
@@piotrszulim1831 you can also sautée pikachu's balls in gen 9
Idk if yall ever heard about this one ,but in when 5th grade , their was this rumor where if you released a jiggly puff in lavender town , the crying jiggly puff would appear and erase all of your saved data. Pretty scary for an 11 year old
I've never heard of that one. An older sibling probably pulled a prank on some kid lol
@@TheRogueRenegade who knows , many they got it from the internet
Guess there's no way to know
Me looking at my Gameboy and pokemon red copy with full pokedex let's try it
@@himankdayal7013 did anything happen
who sees a marill and thinks “yeah, that’s the god of pokemon”
Tbh, I don’t remember that rumor back then, yet I definitely remember “water pikachu”.
@VoltDenatsu it definitely is a lesser water pikachu, you’re right.
who sees a deer in a fence as a God? Honestly, I think arceus isnt God, he is just believed to be by the sinnoh people
Pikachu
I can only speak of my experiences as a kid when it happened, but everyone I knew thought it was a new legendary. If I think about it, it's not too farfetched (hah pun) for kids to think that. Mew is a small and cute Pokémon that also happens to be one of the strongest. We only had gen 1 to go by at the time so when thinking about it, we have to exclude every single gen besides the first.
7:37 FINALLY SOMEBODY AGREES WITH ME. Porygon had no reason to be removed
#JusticeForPorygon
#JusticeForPorygon
Not sure if it was in this vid because I only watched the bottom two levels, but the only place you can hear Porygon2 and Porygon-Z's anime cries are in some obscure spinoff game that I forgot the name of
Fr porygon is one of my favorites 😭
wait can we talk about how ghastly is 5’ fucking 11”
How the fuck do you get the height of sentient gas lmao
Tall boi
he is almost as tall as me
No, Gastly Is 4' Something. Haunter Is 5 foot fokin 3, Gengar Is 4'11".
Maybe that's how high it can float? Or it has invisible legs.
When I was a kid, I obtained Mew through the real glitch you can use to get it, then lied to my friends that I got it from under the truck.
That's evil
@@TheRogueRenegade Part of me felt bad, another part of me didn't want anyone else to have a mew!
@@ThrottleKitty savage
Lmao
My god
I don’t remember many details, but in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, there is this couple that you do a double battle with. One of them uses cloyster. The other uses onix. They are husband and wife. This was a meme about the, probably, naughty developers
Took me a while to get it
I need my teenage years back
Idk about DPP but before the safari zone in HGSS there is a boyfriend and girlfriend double battle and they also have an onyx and cloyster lmao
I don’t get it 👀
FluffFox moment
@@flufffox8998 shapes
I thought I heard every single theory but Victini being an A-bomb blew my mind. I've never heard this one and now I can't unsee it. It makes so much sense now.
*Blew* your mind
Fun fact: According to Pokemon Masters, Blue is Agatha’s grandson, implying that Agatha and Oak got married.
not it doesnt, everyone has two sets of grandparents... oak could be his parental grandfather and Agatha is maternal grandmother
@@miguelrodrigues2705 yes lol 😂
Miguel Rodrigues yeah but what sounds more interesting? Agatha and Oak were lovers who separate from each other and hate each other or Agatha is just the other Grandparent
In the manga , oak and agatha hate each other and agatha has a grudge against blue and oak. Oak also defeated her in a tournament.(kangaskhan's dizzy punch or something beat her gengar idk how i thought gengar was immune to normal types maybe a special ability) and then agatha got mad that such a strong trainer was "wasting his ability" to do research and pokedex stuff instead of battling i think. Idk i read the manga like 7 years ago😂 also bertha and agatha look so similar
@Hydra true😂😂
My explanation for npcs using underleveled pokemon is this: maybe the levels arent set in stone. Maybe YOUR dragonite evolved at 60 but not all evlove exactly at 60 but rather 60ish. For the sake of simplicity, the devs made it so every pokemon you catch will evolve at the same level, but if you were a person actually living in the pokemon world there's more of a gray area. And a skilled trainer can get their pokemon to evolve sooner.
That seems pretty reasonable. In a real Pokémon world, people would have no way of knowing what levels are. So them making estimates makes sense
Just4 Universe if I remember correctly it was only mentioned once closer to the beginning of the show
I've always thought of it this way. What we're seeing isn't an exact representation of the Pokémon world. We're seeing a simplified version of it, where the rules and limits of gameplay mechanics come into play. Instead of real living cities with millions of people, we're seeing cities with like 10 buildings and 20 people. We don't get to see Pokémon acting like wild animals like the pokédex suggests, and for the sake of gameplay, every Pokémon hatches from an egg - even though that is canonically not the case at all. I never saw the NPCs using underleveled Pokémon as a problem, because they're only underleveled from our perspective as a player of the game, not as a character within that world.
it seems Temtem that there the monsters evolve in approximate levels and not an exact number
You can catch Pokémon in the wild that WAY under level'd.
Maybe they just evolve faster in the wild
My brain has a spot dedicated to pokemon?
Perfect
I see this as a complete win
You profile picture fits so well with this comment...
I actually have a theory for how the animal names such as “The Land Shark Pokémon” were created. Since there are multiple dog/cat Pokémon, the creators of the Pokédexes decided to create names for each of these similar Pokémon to group them together.
As someone who trained with VGC regulars, a lot of “perfect” Pokémon are definitely hacked. “As long as the moves and stats are legal, [the judges] dont care,” I’d always hear.
That's messed up :/ I wish their was some way to prove their legitimacy. It's so unfair for people who put hours into breeding and training
TheRogueRush it won’t change anytime soon, even in gen 5 you could just download pokes from the net and put them on your cart. I personally believe that when the games make it easier to min max perfect pokes, hacking diminishes (we used to have to hack x99 for TMs because it was insane to play a new save file just to teach a Pokémon earthquake, then gen 6 made them reusable). No clue why gen 7 onwards made it harder to do such instead.
Yeah, I can understand the TM thing. Part of me thinks GameFreak doesn't know what their doing but at this point I'm not sure
Yeah, I know of at least a couple of times that big name competitors had hacked Pokemon that were caught only because they had impossible combinations, like Pokemon with event only moves, that were in the wrong ball. and every time it's always some ridiculous story like; they got it from a friend who assured them it was real or something... Honestly, since it can't be enforced it shouldn't even be a rule.
Yeah, honestly just let hacked but legal Pokémon accessable to everyone
Two inaccuracies with the Racist Gengar:
-The James cosplayer spoke up to confirm he did not distribute the Gengar. The eyewitness descriptions mentioned the culprit was dressed as a Team Rocket Grunt, but not specifically James.
-The posters were put up for a DIFFERENT fake event in which someone was distributing a non-racist Eevee.
From now on I'm going to refer to every Evee as "a non-racist evee"
@Pott Rott he wasn't the one who distributed the gengar, if my info from other videos is correct
@Pott Rott it's a incident at a pokemon event, not a conspiracy. Chill with the claims
@Pott Rott oh. I was kinda confused by the wording
ok chiaki
The "new brain area dedicated to pokemon" thing was so cool and weird at the same time that it actually kinda shock me
Yeah, it's really weird. I guess it does make sense though since a lot of us can name Pokémon on the spot
@@TheRogueRenegade Right, it might also be why we associate some specially weird looking animals (like maybe the axoltl) to pokemon instead to other animals when we first see them
I didn't think about that. Like the tadpoles that have a see-through stomach
When did he say that?
Kirk Bupkis 33:30
"pokémon can just leave their pokéballs"
*laughs in master ball*
🤣😂🤣
The fact I knew almost every single one of these is testament to how many pointless Pokémon theory’s I have watched on RUclips
It's for the greater good
all worth it man
I feel you man.
You see there’s an area of your brai-
Same, didn’t think I’d know any past void but how wrong I was
I spent 35 minutes of my life watching a video about pokemon theories and lore
We're proud of you
@@TheRogueRenegade thanks
I did too
What about the last 21 seconds?
@@bugsybooter69 I mean your profile pic is a Hopip
10:27 -there's a bit more to this theory. In an endgame area you meet a Zorark, one you've actually been hinted at meeting multiple times disguised as a man an he talks to you in perfect english, chatting with you about your journey up to that point.
Ns room is filled completely to the brim with toys meant for a small child and we've seen both in games as well as in the anime that pokemon, even very intelligent ones like Mewtwo have an affinity for childish toys. It'd be strange that N, up into his later teens early 20s would be so obsessed with such childish things.
N is also shown at multiple points to directly communicate with Pokemon, something only other Pokemon have ever been seen to do, at least to a legitimately meaningful degree.
I'd argue it's heavily implied N definitely is a Pokemon.
I remember there being more to the theory, bur I didn't wanna get stuck up on it so i moved on. Thank you for reminding me about that
@@TheRogueRenegade I remember checking the toys, the game said that they had scratches on them. I might be wrong.
Just want to point out that in black and white one of N's pokemon in the battle where he has reshiram or zekrom he has a zoroark on his team. Don't know if this changes anything but just thought I'd mention
@@SheutDL the theory rides on the fact that when you chase the Zorark through the tower where it dead ends with no Zorark, N doesn't have one on his team there and he has a full team of 6
Yellow and Lance could talk to pokemon in the manga iirc
I think ash’s dad is the narrator watching him from above.
Woah.
That actually makes sense
Nintendo: He's too dangerous to be kept alive!
That's Great Head Canon
Hex Maniac: tries to creep out the player in the easter egg
Everyone: y'know, she's kinda hot
Funny thing is, I kinda liked her more when she wore a hat.
But then she became the Yakui of Pokemon.
You don’t understand how much hentai there are about Hex maniac
@@phantomb4633 Lots and lots of wild stuff of this type of trainer.
I would bone no lie
There's an entire NSFW subreddit dedicated to the Hex Maniac.
r/SexManiac if you curious. It's on the verge of being a dead subreddit though but it's there if you wanna check out some Hex Maniac pics.
Finally, some proper credit from the Pokemon side of youtube to "The Baby Is You"
I can't believe proper credit hasn't been given prior to making this video smh
“No one knows what’s underneath diglett”
That on scene with Brock holding a diglett: Am I a joke to you
Yes, because that was a Dugtrio, and it was a toy
I saw something on pinterest where it was a pokemon book that showed the anotomy and explained things on the pokemon. Ditto was on it and it had little web feet think like psyduck but small and redish toned. Not saying its was some official thing, But the most probable ive seen
@Bayar
Underrated comment
I think it's probably just a mole
HAR HAR DEAD OVERUSE MEMES AR FUNI 🙈
I actually have three to add. In Pokemon Master's it is implied that Iris and Leon are cousins. Also in Masters, Red actually speaks. The reasoning for him never speaking is because of how strong of a bond he and his Pokemon have, so they can use moves without Red having to say anything. Finally, in Snowbelle City it snows differently in town one day (Can't remember) to remember Iwata.
Here are a few that hasn't been stated in this video.
1. Giovanni's Suicide Rumor: In HG/SS's Celebi Event, after you defeat Giovanni, he commits suicide when he exits the cave, which is behind a waterfall and above the ground. Of course its' debunk.
2. Silver is Giovanni's Son. Don't really know if this is a secret tho. Probably the tip of the Iceburg.
3. The dumb, Ash is in a coma theory.
4. The anime purposely change the female companions for Ash every show because they do not want the boys who watch the show to get bored with the girls on screen.
5. The move "Thrash" in Pokemon B/W sounds just like the beginning of the Super Mario Bros. theme.
6. Giratina and Arceus are suppose to be parallels to God and Satan.
7. You can skip the ghost fight in Red/Blue by giving the ghost a poke doll. The Battle ends as if you defeated it.
8. The Pokemon Lost Silver creepypasta
9. Wailord and Skitty are in the same egg group and can mate with each other.
10. Pikablue was a thing
11. Trading a pokemon from R/S/E to Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire will give the player a special message.
12. Pokemon Gen 1 has such broken mechanics compared to the Gen's today. There's a list of it somewhere on the internet.
13. The cut opening to Pokemon Mewtwo Strikes Back
"A few" lol. I was going to put some of these on the iceberg but either forgot or decided not to, can't remember which. I didn't know about 4 and 5 though. They're pretty interesting
Number 6 is wrong tho
@@drabhat8031 how
@@mageofshadow Giratina is not the devil and the Distortion World is not Hell.
Giratina is the embodiment of antimatter (stated both in-game and in an interview) and the violence it was banished for is a reference to the violent reaction when matter comes into contact with antimatter.
@ arceus is stil a pararell to god tho
"kids claimed they had evolved charizard into charcoal" lmao
Oh yeah. I know how you do that. You take the game cartridge, set it outside, pour gasoline on it, light it up, and just like that, all your Pokémon evolve into charcoal
It was called charcolt, wich is a combination between occult, and charizard.
Since you mentioned to comment something that could be added to the iceberg, how about multi-universal Lanturn? Basically, someone mathematically calculated that based on one of the Pokedex entries, Lanturn's light is essentially strong enough to destroy the universe
Honestly, I lot of Pokémon could be strong enough to destroy universes. Pretty spooky
If Team Galactic really wanted to destroy the Universe and build it anew, they should have started by catching Lanturns. Maybe that's why they searched the lakes of Sinnoh?
Isn't Slugma also hotter than the sun?
@@abruptfury9920 Magcargo is...
@@randomshit6539 But hotter than surface only
Ohh spill that tea!
Oh hi dad :D
Help me clean the spill father
Yay
ok
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don't forget about how Lugia's voice in the Pokemon 2000 movie was supposed to be a women's voice, like a mother. and how the Pokemon 2000 movie was meant to be the end of Pokemon story.
Dr Lava has a really cool article translating and explaining Takeshi Shudo's blog he made before his death, if you haven't seen it.
Oh wow, I haven't heard of that. That would've been really weird if it did go as planned
TheRogueRush yeah, the reason why the first Pokemon movie was so dark was because he was thrown the keys and told to do whatever, since they were still dealing with the fallout of the Porygon episode at the time and they barely supervised him. and when it was so successful, they did the same thing again for the second movie lol. super interesting stuff, but also pretty sad, considering his life towards his untimely demise.
Mama Luigi-a
Why didn't you say the rest of the war theory? The theory is because there are so few able-bodied fighting age men around Kanto. The ones that are there are in the mob (Team Rocket) and could thus dodge the draft. The majority of people in Kanto are children running around unsupervised, sailors, and women. There are even references to pokemon being used for terrorism and other implications of harm against people.
Most of them I didn't go much into detail since I didn't want a 2 hour video. Also, there's plenty of theories on the war, so I won't know all of them sadly. Thanks for bringing it up though, it's pretty interesting
You didnt go into depth with any of them... Why do u care how long it is? Plenty of people are successful with long videos. I wouldve rather known the details. Maybe you could have made a couple videos
"The majority of people in Kanto are children running around unsupervised, sailors, and women." that's so funny how are they still alive at all xD
Also a bunch of the characters have no dads
Every copy of pokemon is personalized features the Giovanni apparition
The Giovanni apparition is supposed to be top secret, shhh
@Katz Meowski What?
PLEASE ROGUERUSH I NEED TO FEED MY WIFE AND KIDS DONT DO THIS I NEED THIS JOB
I'm sorry young one
I'm not trying to be rude, this is an honest question to anyone in the comments here; Do you guys believe in the "everyone has a personal cartridge" phenomenon? It's often talked about with Zelda Ocarina of Time, and Majora's Mask. I'm curious. It's an exciting concept to think about, but I'm just not sure about it.
Ngl the concept of an 'Unkown King' actually seems really cool. Also, if Gamefreak did something like that, Unkown would actually contribute something outside of lore!
I swear right? Those unknowns were in the game for like nothing. Wasted potential
“Some people suspect Professor Oak, others say it’s Mr. Mime.” EXCUSE ME WHAT
P O K E F I L L I A
yeah mr mime always hanging out with ashs mom
@@attoboi9763 I know, but I sure hope it’s not ash’s dad 😂
It's Red from the Games, thats why they look similar and both like Pikachu. He left her to train pokemon and complete the Pokedex
Do pkm get old?
I love videos like this
Same, they add a creepy mystery sometimes 😳
I love them more when they don’t use stolen fanart. :/
@@zawgaroo the creepy factor is honestly 90% of the appeal to me haha
@@SurfRock74 Same!
ruclips.net/video/7MOKTU9tCbw/видео.html Oi check this one out babyyyy. It’s a good one.
I'm not into pokemon at all, and I have no clue why the algorithm sent me here. However, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't entertained. Great video!
Glad the algorithm likes me then!
23:01 I used an action replay all the time on my gen 4 games, so I would walk through walls and just travel through the mystery zones as I played the game. Grew up with that, it really has a nostalgic feel for me now.
same here! my brother and i shared an action replay and it was fun going through gen 4 just being as much of a menace as possible. walking through walls, catching opponents pokémon- good times man
The deepest mystery is WHY YOU CUT YOUR SENTENCES SO SOON IT SOUNDS SO UNNATURAL AAAAAA
Well the thing is that I-
@@TheRogueRenegade Finish the rest >:00
@@TheRogueRenegade **dun dun dun dun**
@@TheRogueRenegade 2:26
@@oochipchoogi NUUUU D:< D:< D:< D-
Is the Pokémon section of my brain the reason why I knew so much of this, even quite far down the iceberg? Still, I definitely learnt some new stuff from this and it was thoroughly enjoyable!
Maybe, who knows. Thank you though, it took me a while to make!
Wait, so your saying I have a portion of my brain dedicated to Pokemon?
Yes sir
What's still the most impressive to me is how the creators of Pokemon made something with so much mystery and wonder that it has fueled all of these rumors for so long. When you build such big, creative worlds full of so many secrets, it really starts to seem like anything is possible and almost any plausible theory is going to become fan legend overnight.
Exactly why the games are not living up to their potential nowadays
"Missingno could delete your save by not being able to process level 0 pokemon"
Me, frothing at the mouth in all of my hyperspecific computer science knowledge who knows exactly what missingno is and what it actually does to your save.
well go on then i wanna hear you pop off about this now
*Plays some random song*
Small child: well guess ill die
Ace attorney meme?
@@narah_here
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@@shourikaen. what
@@shourikaen. o kruci ty polak xD
26:35 So, I actually went to a small event where Eric Stuart (original voice of Brock and James) let us ask him questions among other things.
Someone actually asked him about the "4kids and the devil" thing and according to him the reason he did this was because he was mad at 4Kids. At the time, they would have him do lines for their commercials and he'd be paid every time, like Burger Kings. However, 4Kids did several dickish moves to him, mostly how they started to use lines from the show instead and didn't pay the voice actors for them, which cut a significant part of their salary out. He was mad about this so he had this slipped in.
I remember some other stuff from it too so if anyone wants to know some other stories I'll talk about them lol
Tell us!
@@Veilure He was very happy of his VC work for Metaknight where he portrayed him as having a Spanish accent. If I remember correctly this was a reference to Zorro? Not sure. I believe he might have been unsure of it at first because people didn't really like it, but when a young Spanish boy came up to him one day and started talking about how he was happy one of his favorite, cool characters sounded like him, Eric decided that it was good to continue it and he took pride in it.
That's the mark of a good Voice Actor: knowing the language so well that you can speak in reverse without stuttering every syllable.
That's actually really funny.
9:29
T H A T ' S J U S T B I L L ' S M A R I H U A N A F A R M
Bill is definitely a pothead.
He’s cracked at crack my guy
Something to add is that in one of the gen 2 games the anti piracy thing was your pokemon saying they won’t listen to a criminal even though the rival literally could have stole the Pokémon you chose and it would listen to them anyway
Don't forget about our favorite crime boss Giovanni game ending himself
It'd be really cool and dark if it was true but we see him in other games
@@TheRogueRenegade the other games we see him are in the mega timeline
Edit: he appears in B2W2 as well so this comment dosent make sense
@@sergiorubens8475 Not exactly, he commits suicide on the timelines where Team Rocket loses, and the Mega timeline is one of them, alongside the original one of course.
But on the timeline where Team Rocket wins, Giovanni's still alive. The only reason he appears on the Mega timeline is because he got 'teleported' from the timeline where TR wins to that Rainbow event.
@@sergiorubens8475 B2W2?
@@Saithiel usum is the universe that rocket won. Gio didnt get teleported by colress. He has his own teleporter. That's how he brought the group together.
“LOOK AT MISTY’S BREASTS” “this video took a lot longer to make than I thought” 🤔
hmmmmm
I'm glad I'm not the only one to catch that as the reason for the MONTH delay. Someone went down the doujin rabbit hole
Well yeah, video editing must be HARD with one hand
@@SniperOnSunday bruh
Jiggly puff at the bottom of my screen:
🔴 ○ 🔴
Me: 👁👄👁
You horrible screeching of a planet, I hate Saturn for it's noice, I hope it evaporates before Jupiter does during the Sun's final years.
the void background image: *exists*
Me: "Oh god, oh f*ck..."
Take deep breathes, it can find you sooner
It triggered my anxiety real bad, that was not fun.
It's *bruh* to me.
@@TheRogueRenegade bruh, the frick does that mean?
It’s fine. I’ve seen that jigglypuff a thousand times
Wait.. so now there's a section of me brain dedicated to Pokemon. And it's PERMANENT?
The Mossdeep Space Station rumor likely inspired ORAS' Delta Episode's Deoxys battle.
Yup! Pretty cool that GameFreak acknowledged it
ORAS had so many moments that made my inner child lose its mind, ESPECIALLY this. It's a shame the games get so much shit imo
@@poralium196 no battle tower
@@shevrett2658 yeah honestly that got on my nerves as well
@@poralium196 TOO MUCH WATER!
Rogue: "Birds"
*Shows a picture of a giraffe"
My favorite bird is the Giraffe
Man, I miss when burger king had their pokemon toys. I remember I got a gold plated mewtwo card. Sadly, my moms ex husband took it in the divorce. I recently offered to buy it. But he apparently sold it a couple years ago to buy a pack of smokes.
Bruh
F
Top tier bruh moment
BRUUUUIH YOU KIDDING ME
I have like 5-6 of those gold played cards from BK. Last time I checked they’re not expensive to buy?
@@b4Sed1593 its not about buying it. Its the fact that he took something that was precious to me and sold it, cause it meant nothing to him. I got that card going out to eat with my great grandfather, who passed when I was 12.
10:47 "Take a look at Cloyster, does he looks familiar?"
Me: Well... hm... he looks like a pus
Him: Yeah Ghastly
Me: YES, yes... totally Ghastly!
lol
That one battle with a guy and girl with an Onix and cloyster 😳
@@ihavenoidea5888 they were both male 😳
@@microwave8931 I'm both male and I have an Onix and sort of a Cloyster.
@@robertmorales7812 Whot?
The person who gave away the racist Gengar was dressed as a team rocket grunt, not James
Damn, i tried finding pictures but the news reports about it kept using that picture
TheRogueRush and he had a beard and was unkempt
Wait you can heart replies?
Yes, hello
TheRogueRush a bit more info, there was *another* hacker at the event that made the flyers. They were for an eevee
"In Diamond and Pearl, There was a book that told us, It was normal to have [18:28] relationships with Pokemon"
Every Vaporeon On Poké Earth :
"Why do I hear boss music ?"
I love how People forget N trained/trains a Zoroark
N is 2 zoroark?
It cloned itself?
Its his son
Why does nobody talk about "No, you're not the one" also appearing in gen 6 Mt. Pyre
Has it ever been solved?
Pokémaniac Guquiz nah I think that’s just some extra mystery
I completely forgot abt that
Nobody talks about the connection with oras.
Made a video finally talking about it, made sure it include the Mt Pyre Hex Maniac
Sorry if this was mentioned already, but I found AZ's floette really intresting. It had a model in gen 6, had a small reference in ORAS, different base stats from normal floette and its own signature move. However, no seperate dex entry.
Until USUM, where AZ's floette suddenly gained 2 dex entries SEPERATE from normal floette talking about the terrifying power it holds.
I was going to add it but completely forgot once again. I wonder if they'll ever release it
@@TheRogueRenegade Ah fair, can happen. And I hope because I really enjoy the design
you were able to hack it into ORAS using a specific method, the method itself was patched but i was able to get one, kept it and eventually transferred it into Pokemon Home, where it oddly didn't have an icon in the box screen (it was just a grey pokeball symbol) but a full HD model. Interesting...
Also a signature move: Light of Ruin
I think it was a hint at a sequel to X and Y. because in an interview morimoto was asked for a hint to the next pokemon game and said it was "about a flower"
which could mean AZ's floette, or it could have meant lillie, who is named after a flower in both english and japanese and played a big role in sun and moon.
Not gonna lie, as much I enjoyed this, I feel like you need to slow down, friend. I had to rewind a countless number of times to listen again to catch what you said. :(
Middle of the iceberg: yeah secret boss that eats you alive
Abyss: one scrubby boi
I think it's based on stuff that's known, being on pokemon youtube will let you know tip of the iceberg things, you can stumble upon middle, but you have to research for abyss
@@sword8657 he searched and now he is sharing his findings
@@realbenzo tru
That blood eyed Jigglypuff is me trying to beat Century Smash with it.
A kid on the playground told me that a partially destroyed Pokemon Red Cartridge would have weird glitches like Charizard's head coming out the top of PokeCenters. My brother caught me trying to smash my copy of the game... Funny how kids will believe absolutely anything.
Luckily I didn't believe in these rumours
Sir. I could have lived my entire life not knowing the artist of Electric Tail of Pikachu was a hentai artist.
I will pass my cursed knowledge onto those who don't need it
"Ditto and Mew are the unical mons that can use transform"
Smeargle: *_hold up_*
he's the shadow mario of the pokemon universe
Noob's way: Cleffa->Clefairy->CLEFABLE
OG's way:
Shellder->Cloyster->Ghastly->Haunter->Gengar->CLEFABLE
Nono, I think you must be new here
Shellder>cloyster>(dies)ghastly>haunter. End of evolution.
Clefairy>clefable>gengar
I'm super late to the party here, but this was a really great video.
12:54 the funny thing is, the _only reason_ Dragonite gets Barrier in Gen 6 is because of an event. The Dragonite in question which was distributed was literally called "Lance's Dragonite" and is a reference to his Gen 1 Dragonite, which is level 62 and has all of its Gen 1 moves, including Barrier. It's honestly just funny to me that the only way the actual player can get a Barrier Dragonite is because it's an exact copy of Lance's incorrect one.
Nice seeing you here, and thank you! That's honestly hilarious, I can't believe it still technically isn't even legal
Misty says she hates bugs, even Pokèmon. Animals are in the Pokèmon world.
Only for, like, the first generation. Once they found their footing, EVERYTHING was a Pokémon.
the "no, you’re not the one" girl makes me kinda nostalgic. i remember telling all my friends (that also played pokemon) the next day at school that i saw this weird girl floating... and i was so convinced that there was something wrong with my game xD
SAME I scared all of my second grade friends
I feel like they floating girl is actually still kind of scary
TOBY FOX SNUCK IN MALE HOMESTUCK PREGNANCY FANFIC MUSIC INTO SWSH!?!?!? That's a sentence I thought I would never say or hear ever
???????
oh shi-
@@GeneralLDS Ya that one is a fairly big mind blow
* Megalovania intensifies * Who knew
This real tho?
I saw that monochrome thing back when X and Y came out. I saw someone talk about it just once but never saw it again and now I finally know the truth.
I really wish it wasn't a glitch
But has anyone ACTUALLY found one since then? Glitch or not, the fact that we don't have people hunting Monochrome Pokemon like shinies makes me feel that the whole thing was a hoax.
Yeah, but there wouldn't really be anything to gain from it. It's apparently rarer than a shiny, and just goes back to normal after caught. I don't think people would do it without an incentive
@@TheRogueRenegade I heard they stay monochrome after caught (as shown by some of the pictures you used showing them in the trainer menu), it's only when the game is turned off and some other circumstances that they revert to normal colors. From what I remember, they're estimated to be 10 times rarer than shinies, but people on the internet are madlads, so if someone would go as far as to break the law to obtain Beta Gold, you would think that at least one person would livestream themselves hunting for one of these things. All it would take is setting the game to the initial version and a lot of time.
It's so weird how undocumented it all is. Like, there's a few GameFAQs articles from 2013 and a dozen or so photos from around that time, but that's the only proof we have. If I may contradict what I said earlier, I don't think the monochrome phenomina is down to chance, it's a texture glitch, so it must have a scientifically provable cause, like sleep modeing on specific frames, having a specific number of pokemon in the pc, or trainer id.
Gosh, now I'm all excited wondering if they're even real.
Oh yeahh, you're right. If it honestly is real, that would be really cool. If no one else does it, I'll attempt to do it myself
16:27 there is also a mistys determination artwork from an xy set and it is numbered 104/122. It is adult misty and it looks like she is a lifeguard
That's just her HGSS design.
I believe the "VGC misconduct" thing is referring to an incident where a team of players got kicked out of a hotel for throwing human feces at each other.
Anyways, nice vid.
I was searching everywhere for what VGC Misconduct was, but I didn't find anything so I made my own conclusion. I can't believe that actually happened though
Bruh
@@TheRogueRenegade I'd thought it was the incident where people brought guns to one of the tournaments. They posted about it on Facebook and were arrested before they got inside.
It was at an event in Birmingham UK, spanish team of VGC players did fling poo on their hotels corridor. The gun incident also is real, players never made it into the hall fortunately, authorities were alerted beforehand and security has been enormously increased at Pokemon Worlds afterwards, most everyone at the event knew nothing until after the event.
haha poop now laugh
I still have a bunch of those Pokeballs from the Burger King promotion toys. They're the size of an apple. There's no way a kid could even begin to get one of those things in their mouth let alone choke on them.
Well it somehow happened, and yeah, you know the rest
they weren't choking on them, they were suffocating because the pokeball got stuck on their face.
Ohhh, that makes a lot more sense.
On their mouth. To cover nose and mouth.
I feel like some of these are cut off a little sharply, and lacking some depth.
EG: Genisect is Kabutops, it abruptly stops, after only saying that Kabutops is also really old. No mention of any similarities between the two, just... Next thing!
Yeah, i see what you mean. I wanted to briefly touch upon these topics because the video was already long enough. If I went into depth, the video would easily be around 2 hours long
@@TheRogueRenegade
Nothing wrong with a longer video.
People can stop part way if they're not up for the full length, and greater depth and explanations are usually why people come to an iceberg explanation.
At least that's why I do.
I liked the video overall, mind. I'd like to see more of you'd be interested in doing more.
I struggled to export a 45 minute video, I have no clue if I could even export a 2 hour long one lol. I think most people would be scared away or get bored. I don't know if I'll do another iceberg, but I know I'll definitely post more in the future. Thank you!
@@TheRogueRenegade
Well, if you do do more, I'll definitely be interested.
Isnt that the point tho? These are only overviews
I really, really, really appreciated your use of music from Pokemon Colosseum in this! One of my FAVORITE Pokemon games!
I pretty much only used Colosseum music in my latest video. I agree though, Colosseum is amazing
Wrong, the true iceberg is actually Avalugg.
You know too much
@@TheRogueRenegade "You know the rules and so do I
SAY GOODBYE"
_gunshot_
@@sanscipher435 why u Rick roll me
@@arandomfox9009 I want Tell u a lie and hurt u say good bye! *gun noises*
“It’s not like he’s being funded” that line killed me 😂
I'm speaking facts
18:29 Ralts: Mommy, Daddy how was I born?
Dad: Well son, when a human wants to frick a gardevoir...
The Pidgey and the Combees
XD
You're allowed to swear on the internet. Just say fuck.
@@acrid8952 Ralts is supposed to be a kid so a frick is more fitting in this context
@@acrid8952 I guess it just depends on the video. I've had my comments automatically deleted for having hard swear words. Then I'd retype the same comment with the swear left out and it stayed. I'd say frick just so my stuff doesn't get deleted lol
“Kids in the 90s believed almost anything”
Yeah, cause kids believing in Momo these days is so much more rational. 🙄
True true, but information wasn't as widespread during the 90's
@@TheRogueRenegade which is why it’s so sad that kids now can’t tell
@@namedrop721 more info means more fake info too
I'm pretty sure those yutes were 5
Noodle getting a lil offensive
In Mewtwo's first movie (I forget the name now), you can actually hear a scientist in the background say "now we can begin work on Mew 3!"
Like Zoinks scooby
Mewtwo strikes back?
No shot
"Pokémon the First Movie" 😁
I appreciate your pacing on this. A lot of commentary channels tend to ramble but you got straight to the point and still made it enjoyable to watch
I felt so big brained when I recognized the 9/11 encounter rates from 4th generation pokemon
Very big brain moment. I honestly didn't believe what I was reading when I researched into it. It's so strange
TheRogueRush I believe there’s also various days throughout the year that turn the hail effect to diamond dust within Snowpoint City and Mt Silver
@@AW-wg5zp Yup, that's correct! I didn't add it to the iceberg though because I felt it didn't really fit in
@@TheRogueRenegade The falling Diamond dust is well documented, while the encounter rates is resent info, I think you had the right idea taking the later and not the former
solid video, I like that even the lowest tier stuff had a basis in reality, a lot of these videos stop having anything real in them towards the end.
Yeah, i was trying to aim for that since reality is always scarier than fiction
has no one acknowledged the moment of silence for the japanese victims at 29:04 ?
Plenty have, don't worry
Oh , I was very disrespectful and now feeling sorry that the silence was for that
"But he illustrated a doujin of Jessie and James having some fun"
Me instantaneously without actually thinking about it: S O U R C E ?
And it's in English!?
i'm a little disappointed that i've scrolled this far into the comments and this is the only mention of it i've seen and still no sauce.
What
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@@Platinumnic does this still work?
"It was discovered this pokegod was just... Marill"
Yo, don't diss my child.
u mean mine.
“Leo Burnett and 4Kids are the devil!”
Lmao I don’t know why but I find that hilarious