This is indeed a gorgeous place! Spent a lot of summer holidays there in the early 1960's, it has the largest shingle beech in the UK. There used to be a full gauge spur line there the shingle used to be collected for main line ballast. if you revisit sometime you can fine the old ail line root by the (hopefully) old telegraph polls. Also well worth showing are the acoustic mirrors, at what was RAF Denge (very close) built in 1928-30 to collect sound waves of approaching aircraft abandoned when radar came in. At 9:11 the old RHDR rails were used to pull the fishing fleet out of the sea, You showed the rusting winding gear.
Peter, thanks so much for the additional information. It is a wonderful place, full of mystery. When we return, we'll look out for the old rail line; we usually head there once or twice a year, ideally when it's a bit quiet. We have covered the sound mirrors at Denge in a video - check out - ruclips.net/video/APZS6PX1CaY/видео.html - a look around on a rather wet day, but still enjoyable. Anyway, thanks for stopping by and taking the time to leave a comment; much appreciated. All the best Gary & Janis
Hi, just wanted to thank you for this and your other videos. I've been using your website for the last couple of years to plan our road trips and pretty much retraced your steps around Spain and Portugal. Found your RUclips channel recently and it's great. Managed to do a few of your recommendations in Kent between lockdowns. Hopefully get to do some more trips covid allowing. Thanks for all your hard word and info on the website and RUclips.
Thanks a lot for this beautiful video, the description and the voice is so calming, this video's ambiance actually took me there, for 11 minutes. keep it up 💯👍👍👌
🙏 Thank you Melanie. I hope you have a wonderful time, it's an amazing place, and I love it this time of year - go explore and take loads of pictures or videos yourself because it's ever-changing. Take care, stay safe & well and enjoy Dungeness 😍
@@OurWorldForYou it was absolutely amazing, thank you!! Such an incredible place, the whole place is a photographer's dream. We took the small steam train there and spent the whole day there yesterday exploring, and of course we went to the pub too. I love the place and cannot wait to go back!
Melanie, that's excellent, so glad you had a great time - it is an amazing place, in fact, the whole region is. The next time you go back, it will be just slightly different. Take care, stay safe
@@OurWorldForYou I can imagine :) can't wait to go back. Today I went to see the Sound Mirrors in Denge, just up the road from Dungeness. Couldn't get very close, but still incredible. My dog loved it too. Looking forward to the next vid 👍
This is a very unique area of the U.K and one I’m lucky enough to live near in Greatstone about 1.5 miles down the coast. It make a wonderful place to take our dog for walks.
We love your coastline and that part of the world. We know Greatstone, Littlestone and the wider Romney Marsh. There's a couple of videos on a drive through the area, plus a little look at the Sound Mirrors too. Coming soon is a look at the historic churches of Romney Marsh. However, that said, Dungness is something else, a very unique place in the country. Love it on a sunny winter's day, must be a little mad on a warm summer weekend. Long may it continue. Thanks for the comment, Cheers Gary & Janis
Hi, Ah, I know those roads. We parked at the Lade Car Park and walked up, and on a cold damp day in March wished we'd parked in one of those roads just a little closer. Anyway, back to the next video, and it's a little warmer because I am in Cyprus. Take Care, Gary & Janis
Dungeness has to be one of the most unique and beguiling landscapes in the U.K. It's like stepping into another world. I've actually been inside Prospect Cottage. I was a friend of the owner back in the day. It is internally as extraordinary as its surrounding landscape. A place once visited, never forgotten. Thank you once again 🥰
That's so cool, I think it's now been purchased by an art charity to preserve it, which would be great - hopefully one day it'll be open to the publis. Dungeness is just such a magic place. 😍
Oh this is my favourite place ever. I found it extremely spiritual. It would be my dream to afford a cottage there. I forget the name of Derek Jarman's film but clearly he felt the same. It's so beautiful and atmospheric & faded & charming. Thanks so much for the video & your soothing voice. 😊
Hi Chas, how are you sir? You can still see them around, but you need to know what you're looking for because they have become more disguised over the years. The give-away is the curved roof and the sizes. A fantastic part of Dungeness history, though. I need to capture Rye & Rye Harbour on video. I have been many times, but I need to see to explore a little more. Take care - Gary
Now that's just plain sneaky. I think the little goods wagon in the foreground at 1:59 is genuine, but the buildings behind it looked a bit suspicious. Next time I'm down there, probably after the summer months, I'll have a look around. I hope you're coping with the masses descending on Eastbourne, although I guess the weather is helping keep the numbers a bit lower. Anyway, take care Chas. Kind Regards, Gary
Susan, It does look unique for a British landscape, and there is a Dungeness in the US; Dungeness Washington, where Dungeness Crab comes from on US menus, rather than being caught by a British Nuclear Power station and sent to our cousins over the pond! '😊 Glad you liked the video, and thanks for taking the time to stop by leave us a comment, All the best, Gary & Janis
Ron, It really is, a little bit magical, and great to visit in all four seasons. Thanks for the comment, Stay safe, stay well and happy travels Gary & Janis
The railway lines were used by the fisherman to move there catch from the boats to the road. The block houses you didnt mention were part off the pluto system in ww2. The Britania being one of them albeit being modified. For many years there was the beer wagon which had very wide wooden wheels for going across the shingle - since the concrete road were put in by the army in ww2. The army used the estate for exercises. One section coming across the beach and attacking the defenders in the block houses. The rusting relics were the winches used to pull the boat up from the sea.
Hi Raymond, Thanks so much for the additional information, one thing for sure is that Dungeness has a wonderfully rich history. All the best, Gary & Janis
Great video, you asked if there are any places like it, have you been to Hollesley Bay? It's just passed Ipswich, and a wonderfully desolate place. No railway, no nothing, if you're lucky maybe a Seal.
Hi Ian, That's a great tip; we have an outline of a Suffolk road trip we wanted to do, probably be 2024 now, and this would make a great addition, and if we get to see a seal - happy days. Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment, Gary & Janis
🙏 Stefan, surprised you haven't already been, although you do really need a car to get down to here, it's rather remote. Certainly worth a day out, perhaps combine it with Hythe. Hope you and Ellie are well, and this lockdown isn't driving you too insane.
Went this past weekend and this place is amazing and a photographers dream. On the beach there's lot's of old rusting bulldozers and machinery and old rotting wooden boats. And so many different style homes, some old and falling apart, other's old but renovated, and some ultra modern architect designed houses that are absolutely stunning. And then there's the backdrop of a nuclear power station! And somehow, together, it all works. If you are thinking of going, you really must.
😎 How cool, it's a fabulous place, did you catch the steam railway too? And those photo's area a moment in time, the next time you visit it will have changed ever so slightly. Glad you had a great day - keep exploring 😍
Thanks for this great video - I've just spent a couple of days visiting Dungeness and missing it so I enjoyed revisiting here, and learning some additional facts. We were told by a local that the little tracks on the beach were for transporting fishing/boat items up and down as the beach grew and the sea got further away from the road.
Our absolute pleasure, so glad you enjoyed it, it's a wonderful place, and we like to visit it when we can - we're 35 miles away as the crow flies, but this little corner of England draws us back time and time again. I hope you got a chance to explore a little more of Romney Marsh; it's a terrific place to explore, with an interesting history. If not, then you can always head back. Anyway, all the best, take care Gary & Janis
Thanks, yes I'll certainly head back to explore more of the area. I walked around Rye Harbour nature reserve but certainly more of Romney Marsh to discover. I'm in Portsmouth, so it's a few hours away 😊 @@OurWorldForYou
Firstly, if you're in Pompey I hope everything is okay after Storm Ciarán. It's a touch damp here in mid Kent, but I think we escaped the worst of it. We were in your neck of the woods a short while back to take the Britanny Ferry to and from Spain. It's been a while since we were last there. We had a little look around Rye Harbour on a sunny day in July as a little road trip around there, just fantastic. There's so much to explore, and we love the seasons; there's something lovely about an autumnal day - probably best when there's not a storm in town though. Anyway, all the best, Gary & Janis
Thank you, yes all well regarding the storm, though some big slabs of paving were torn up and transported across the promenade, and roots of sea kale uprooted. Take care and stay safe 😊 @@OurWorldForYou
David, Us too, something magical about it - no better time to have fish and chips along that coast than on a cold day with loads of salt & vinegar. Thanks for taking the time to stop by and leave a comment, All the best Gary & Janis
Excellent video. I like to watch a You Tube video after a day trip. I went today. I recommend the 102 bus that goes from Rye station if like me you don't have a car. You can get off at the stop for The Pilot Inn and walk up towards the Lighthouse or get off a few stops later at The Romney Sands stop for the Railway up to the Lighthouse. You can get a single fare like I did and walk back to The Pilot Inn bus stop for the return bus. Also may I highly recommend the Brittania Inn for food - the chips and fish were so well done and I am very fussy about my fish and chips and the staff were so nice and was very nice inside. Also the Old Lighthouse is well worth a climb. Again v friendly staff and a great wee souvenir shop. I definitely am going back especially for those fish and chips. Excellent video will watch again for next time. Thanks.
Hi Kath, I'm so glad you liked our little video. We just love Dungeness. We will head back very shortly. Great tip on the bus; we always think that it's hard to get to because there's no rail station (other than the RHDR), forgetting the bus network. It's been a while since we ate at Dungeness, but the Pilot edged it for us back then - new management at the Britannia must have turned things around, which is good to see. So glad you enjoyed your day out. Best wishes, Gary & Janis
Hi, Thanks for this beautiful and interesting video showing us a totally different and strange world on the south coast of Kent. In the moment I am reading and enjoying the excellent crime series by William Shaw. Your video helped me to get a better vision of the landscape around Dungeness. Cheers from Germany
🙏 Thank you so much sir 😍 Thank you for the compliment on the video, and thank you for awakening me to the works of William Shaw; I must check out his work (I recognise the cover of The Birdwatcher. Dungeness is a unique place, quite strange, and hard to think it didn't exist before the great storm of 1287. If you want to see more of the landscape check out my 2 Romney Marsh videos too, you'll get to see the landscape around the area, which is fascinating. I have to ask, which part of Germany, we've travel a bit through Germany, and plan to see much more over the coming years. Cheers, and thanks for the comment, Gary & Janis
@@OurWorldForYou Hi Gary, thanks for your feedback. My family and I live in the Rhine area near Cologne / Bonn, but I also know Bavaria. Just let me know in which area you are interested. As a teenager I had my first student exchange with Folkstone. Maybe this is the reason why I am a nostalgic about this area in England. Cheers, Oliver
Hi Oliver, I'll take you up on that offer. Not sure when we'll be back, hopefully, next year. We are skipping the Christmas markets this year; we've been to Cologne around 12 times, if memory serves me correctly. We have visited maybe 20-30 towns & cities on our travels but still need to get to Hanover, Trier, Leipzig and Dresden, to name but a few. I bet Folkestone has changed a bit since your exchange visit, but each of the coastal towns is very different on that stretch of the coastline. Thanks again, Gary
@@OurWorldForYou Hi Gary, Trier and Dresden are beautiful cities with a lot of history. Why town in Kent would you recommand for a sleep-over while heading from Calais to Stratford-upon-Avon? Cheers Oliver
Hi Oliver, My first thought would be Faversham, then possibly Sevenoaks or even Rochester. However, I have to be honest I have stayed in any of them, but that's because I live so close. I guess you are doing the reverse of the journeys I have made through Germany. In my mind, it's 4 hours from Calais to Cologne (very easy route, although going round Brussels can be slow). I assume you are coming into Folkestone/Dover and just want a stopover. Your diect route would be along the M20 Motorway, but I would avoid Ashford & Maidstone. Are you considering staying at Folkestone on the way back? If not, you should, it has changed over the years, for the better I believe. Please let me know if there is any other help and advice you require. We have videos on the following; Faversham - ruclips.net/video/DidrGc4Fz1Y/видео.html Rochester - ruclips.net/video/KCn__rSDWi4/видео.html Stratford-up-Avon - ruclips.net/video/XadAgHfzTeg/видео.html Folkestone - ruclips.net/video/K2strq8L-Z8/видео.html Creative Folkestone - ruclips.net/video/8M2bTRpa-oE/видео.html Safe travels. Gary
I believe those light-duty rail lines were used by the commercial fishermen, to transport their catch from the distant shore over the shingle to the road, for onward transport to be sold.
Lawrie, I think you're spot on, because trying to shift a catch over the shale without it would have been arduous, and that's after a few hours at sea and with time against you. It's a beautiful place, but for those working on it, a challenge, Anyway, thanks so much for dropping by and taking the time to leave a comment. All the best, Gary & Janis
Hi, We didn't - strictly speaking we perhaps should have obtained permission, but it was just the two of us on a wander with a DJI Pocket camera, rather than a full film crew. Plus, our aim was only to promote the area, free advertising, so hopefully we're okay. Thanks for watching, Take care and safe travels, Gary & Janis
My grandparents used to live in a home opposite fish hut I live there to part of my childhood. It was demolished a few years the home that now stands was a winner on grand designs.
Wow - how cool. Do you get the chance to go back to Dungeness much? I'll keep a lookout for that home, I may even have it on a spare bit of video somewhere - who knows? 😕 Thanks for the comment, take care & stay well 😍
Nice video about Dungeness, what I did keep thinking all the way through was that the guy narrating sounded so much like Martin Kemp of Spandau Ballet! That could be a positive for the lady viewers 😉
Oh Peter, how you made Janis laugh 🤣 pure 'Gold', I'd say so 'True' _ Okay enough puns (Was/Are a big fan of the boys, but it's only Spandau with Tony Hadley's tones...) Anyway thanks so much, glad you liked it - take care, stay safe and a better day is around the corner 😍
@@OurWorldForYou ha ha, what a great response to a comment! Seriously, loved the video, Kent is a place both myself and my Wife have been visiting since we were knee high, absolutely love the area. We now live on the Isle of Wight. Could be another interesting place for one of your future videos. Ps as I believe the railway lines on the beach at Dungeness were to transport fish in small open wagons up from the beach by hand. Keep up the good work, stay safe.
Peter, Janis was brought up on the Isle of white from the age of about 9 until I rescued her when she was 19. Her father was working on the Thames, and when that work dried up, her parents moved to the Isle of Wight to run a guest house in Shanklin. So over the late 80's & early 90's I got to know the Isle of Wight pretty well. It's been a while since we've been back - I blame White Link. Interesting the history of that railway line, I find it hard to believe it was used by the military during the war - it's amazing what you pick up. Just finishing Saturday's video, another from Kent, and another one with a steam railway.
We used to buy fish most Sundays. We met the boats as they landed. The boats were pulled up the shore by a winch cable and the boats rode on timbers, (about 6' x 6"by 2") which were continually dragged by hand from behind the boat, up the beach and laid in front of the boat, about 5' apart. Many fishermen's wives assisted - it was very hard work. Two fishermen then pulled the nets of the boat, shaking the fish onto the beach, a good shake of the net was needed as many fishes gills were caught in the nets! Other fishermen grabbed the fish, still alive, and placed them in boxes each box holding a stone of fish. My recollection is that a stone of fish is more likely to have been a a measure of volume than 14 lbs. At home after I helped others by going around the village where We lived selling fish, (We only bought place), the were sold 7for 1/- 0d, not by weight. Dunge Ness was deserted, (only residents and a dozen or so people) most whom had come to buy fish.
David, some things about Dungeness haven't changed, fish still get landed, and at times it can still be very deserted. Sometimes a bit busier. Which village were you coming from?
@@davidhorn6008 that’s great to know, we have been close by recently visiting Appledore, Snaregate & the Gusbourne estate - we love the Romney Marsh for its uniqueness. We’ll be back soon - we’re currently in the lowlands of Europe - Flanders
I love Romney Marsh but especially Dungeness. I remember it being for sale and if I had enough money I would have loved to own it as by the whole scene of things Idont think it was that much money, not quite sure what I would have done with it but tried to keep it as it was, just a little tidying up.However it does make me wonder why EDF have bought it ,why would a French company be interested it Know of many places that are supeosedly owned by foreign investors and there is often an ulteiria motive linked to money, which we can end up financing and that's not good for our fragile economy
Hi Tim, Dungeness is special, such a magical place. Like you, I agree that the Dungeness estate should not be 'private' hands, actually it's owned by the French State, as EDF is wholly French. I do wonder why we can't have a British State-owned energy company, but now we're wandering into politics. At least it's possible to still explore it freely and explore the magic that is Dungeness. All the best. Gary & Janis
Hi Sofia, The issue is not the nuclear power plant. The main reason not to swim here is the strong currents from its shape and position in the English Channel. If you want to swim close by, Littlestone is on one side, and Camber is on the other. You can check the water quality at UK government's environmental agency site 🔗environment.data.gov.uk/bwq/profiles/ for the water quality and whether it is safe to swim. I hope that helps, All the best, Gary & Janis
Thanks John, another fact learnt. That would be the 160MW system that landed just outside Boulogne-sur-Mer on the French side. I love that Dungeness has so much history (it could probably do with its own museum!)
@@OurWorldForYou the building was in effect a big junction box where the undersea cables were joined to underground cables to the Lydd converter station.
The disused 15" Guage railway track might have been laid for project PLUTO (Pipeline Under The Ocean) during the second World War when the RH&DR was used to transport material. The pipeline was to supply Fuel to British Forces in France.
It could well have been - its use during WWII is documented, but who knows for sure until the papers surrounding its role are declassified? Looks so different these days, back to how it should be, all about fun.
As children in the early 50's We were told that a second, planned use for PLUTO was to set the sea ablaze in the event of beach landings by enemy troops. Indeed We were shown film of practising this activity on the 1960's TV programme "All our Yesterdays" which showed newsreels of that week, 25 years earlier.
That's interesting Eric - I know some people read about Dungeness being somewhere special, and then are disappointed when they visit - but who wants everyone to be the same? Those of us who enjoy it, love it. And yes, I love Marmite 😋 Thanks for the comment, Gary & Janis
the running track lines were fish wagon carriers of fresh catches and usage for fishing equipment ,ie nets engines etc ,nothing to do with any railway ie RHDR whatsoever,I grew up on marshes from 1952 on the branch lines of the british rail lydd railways,there are a lot of memories I hold down there.
Terry, thanks for that detail - you can not beat local knowledge. Do you ever remember a Beach fish line? It appears on the RHDR Wiki page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romney,_Hythe_and_Dymchurch_Railway, and it may be the same lines that the fishermen used? I just can't be sure. Anyway, thanks so much for the comment. I hope you're staying safe and well - take care, Gary
@@OurWorldForYou by 1952 the beachline fish sidings had well closed down as dungeness branchline station had closed in 1937 and the closedown had began for the fishing industry there ,my whole family were involved in the lydd railway etc,from its first opening to its final demise 1967 ,beeching reared his head as holiday camps never got its promise of lots of public and holidays ,theres lots more history
Lillie, Do you have a source for that? The reason I asked the question is if you check out the Wiki page for RH&DR - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romney,_Hythe_and_Dymchurch_Railway, specifically the railway line, you see a branch called the 'Beach Fish Line'. So did that line just ferry passengers to that point, or did it also bring the catch of the day back. If there's a source that tells me what that beach line was for then I'd love to know. Cheers, Gary
This is indeed a gorgeous place! Spent a lot of summer holidays there in the early 1960's, it has the largest shingle beech in the UK. There used to be a full gauge spur line there the shingle used to be collected for main line ballast. if you revisit sometime you can fine the old ail line root by the (hopefully) old telegraph polls. Also well worth showing are the acoustic mirrors, at what was RAF Denge (very close) built in 1928-30 to collect sound waves of approaching aircraft abandoned when radar came in. At 9:11 the old RHDR rails were used to pull the fishing fleet out of the sea, You showed the rusting winding gear.
Peter, thanks so much for the additional information. It is a wonderful place, full of mystery. When we return, we'll look out for the old rail line; we usually head there once or twice a year, ideally when it's a bit quiet.
We have covered the sound mirrors at Denge in a video - check out - ruclips.net/video/APZS6PX1CaY/видео.html - a look around on a rather wet day, but still enjoyable.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by and taking the time to leave a comment; much appreciated.
All the best
Gary & Janis
What a lovely informative video, relaxing voice and music to accompany it too. Really enjoyed it 😊👏🏻
🙏 Thanks so much Cally, I'm so glad you liked it. 😍
Thank you for this great vid. Love Dungeness!
🙏Thanks so much - appreciate that 😀
Very informative and interesting
🙏Thanks so much, glad you liked it 😍
Loved your vid. Thanks for sharing
Dave,
Thanks so much, so glad you liked it.
All the best,
Gary & Janis
Hi, just wanted to thank you for this and your other videos. I've been using your website for the last couple of years to plan our road trips and pretty much retraced your steps around Spain and Portugal. Found your RUclips channel recently and it's great. Managed to do a few of your recommendations in Kent between lockdowns. Hopefully get to do some more trips covid allowing. Thanks for all your hard word and info on the website and RUclips.
Thank you - we always set out to inspire people, and provide advice. I'm glad you've enjoyed our work - Thanks again.😃
Love Dungey and Denge marsh ,,,,,,,another great vid mate 💥👍
🙏 Thanks so much, we love the place and the whole area - There's a little bit of old England there 😍
@@OurWorldForYou Absolutely 🍺🇬🇧
Thanks a lot for this beautiful video, the description and the voice is so calming, this video's ambiance actually took me there, for 11 minutes. keep it up 💯👍👍👌
🙏 Thanks so much; I'm so glad you liked it. 😍
I'm off to Dungeness this weekend and I can't wait. Thank you for this video, I found it so relaxing too, you have such a calming voice
🙏 Thank you Melanie. I hope you have a wonderful time, it's an amazing place, and I love it this time of year - go explore and take loads of pictures or videos yourself because it's ever-changing.
Take care, stay safe & well and enjoy Dungeness 😍
So how was it? Did you have a great time? Interesting place right?
@@OurWorldForYou it was absolutely amazing, thank you!! Such an incredible place, the whole place is a photographer's dream. We took the small steam train there and spent the whole day there yesterday exploring, and of course we went to the pub too. I love the place and cannot wait to go back!
Melanie, that's excellent, so glad you had a great time - it is an amazing place, in fact, the whole region is. The next time you go back, it will be just slightly different.
Take care, stay safe
@@OurWorldForYou I can imagine :) can't wait to go back. Today I went to see the Sound Mirrors in Denge, just up the road from Dungeness. Couldn't get very close, but still incredible. My dog loved it too. Looking forward to the next vid 👍
Thank you I enjoyed how you presented this.
Our pleasure, thanks for the kind words, it's appreciated 😍
This is a very unique area of the U.K and one I’m lucky enough to live near in Greatstone about 1.5 miles down the coast. It make a wonderful place to take our dog for walks.
We love your coastline and that part of the world. We know Greatstone, Littlestone and the wider Romney Marsh. There's a couple of videos on a drive through the area, plus a little look at the Sound Mirrors too. Coming soon is a look at the historic churches of Romney Marsh.
However, that said, Dungness is something else, a very unique place in the country. Love it on a sunny winter's day, must be a little mad on a warm summer weekend. Long may it continue.
Thanks for the comment,
Cheers
Gary & Janis
@@OurWorldForYou the sound mirrors are just behind the road I live in about a 10 minute walk away
Hi,
Ah, I know those roads. We parked at the Lade Car Park and walked up, and on a cold damp day in March wished we'd parked in one of those roads just a little closer.
Anyway, back to the next video, and it's a little warmer because I am in Cyprus.
Take Care,
Gary & Janis
Dungeness has to be one of the most unique and beguiling landscapes in the U.K. It's like stepping into another world.
I've actually been inside Prospect Cottage. I was a friend of the owner back in the day. It is internally as extraordinary as its surrounding landscape.
A place once visited, never forgotten.
Thank you once again 🥰
That's so cool, I think it's now been purchased by an art charity to preserve it, which would be great - hopefully one day it'll be open to the publis. Dungeness is just such a magic place. 😍
@@OurWorldForYou I am really happy to hear that. I am sure Derek and Keith would be extremely pleased about that also.
Last time was around 2002 ish . Was going this year but it didn't happen. Broke 2 toes could drive ! One school friend is now captain of the lifeboat.
Excellent video, well covered 😎😎
🙏 Thanks so much - that's very kind of you 😍
Oh this is my favourite place ever. I found it extremely spiritual. It would be my dream to afford a cottage there. I forget the name of Derek Jarman's film but clearly he felt the same. It's so beautiful and atmospheric & faded & charming. Thanks so much for the video & your soothing voice. 😊
Hi,
Thanks so much, it is a unique place, and somewhere you can easily find peace in. I'm so glad you liked the video.
All the best,
Gary & Janis
When I use to visit in the late 50s and early 60s there were loads of old railway carriages repurposed as homes. There is still one at Rye Harbour.
Hi Chas, how are you sir? You can still see them around, but you need to know what you're looking for because they have become more disguised over the years.
The give-away is the curved roof and the sizes. A fantastic part of Dungeness history, though.
I need to capture Rye & Rye Harbour on video. I have been many times, but I need to see to explore a little more.
Take care - Gary
@@OurWorldForYou Hi Gary I have seen one being built in recent years that was made to look like a railway carriage but there was no carriage involved
Now that's just plain sneaky. I think the little goods wagon in the foreground at 1:59 is genuine, but the buildings behind it looked a bit suspicious. Next time I'm down there, probably after the summer months, I'll have a look around.
I hope you're coping with the masses descending on Eastbourne, although I guess the weather is helping keep the numbers a bit lower.
Anyway, take care Chas.
Kind Regards,
Gary
@@chasbell4510 Do you remember pipers near Dymchurch,,,holiday homes was old railway carriages ,,, happy days👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 no we did not stay there but used to visit on days out from Sandwich
What a brilliant place. It's almost looks like somewhere in America. Thank you.
Susan,
It does look unique for a British landscape, and there is a Dungeness in the US; Dungeness Washington, where Dungeness Crab comes from on US menus, rather than being caught by a British Nuclear Power station and sent to our cousins over the pond! '😊
Glad you liked the video, and thanks for taking the time to stop by leave us a comment,
All the best,
Gary & Janis
No problem.@@OurWorldForYou
What a beautiful place !👍❤️❤️
Ron,
It really is, a little bit magical, and great to visit in all four seasons.
Thanks for the comment,
Stay safe, stay well and happy travels
Gary & Janis
The railway lines were used by the fisherman to move there catch from the boats to the road. The block houses you didnt mention were part off the pluto system in ww2. The Britania being one of them albeit being modified. For many years there was the beer wagon which had very wide wooden wheels for going across the shingle - since the concrete road were put in by the army in ww2. The army used the estate for exercises. One section coming across the beach and attacking the defenders in the block houses.
The rusting relics were the winches used to pull the boat up from the sea.
Hi Raymond,
Thanks so much for the additional information, one thing for sure is that Dungeness has a wonderfully rich history.
All the best,
Gary & Janis
Great video, you asked if there are any places like it, have you been to Hollesley Bay? It's just passed Ipswich, and a wonderfully desolate place. No railway, no nothing, if you're lucky maybe a Seal.
Hi Ian,
That's a great tip; we have an outline of a Suffolk road trip we wanted to do, probably be 2024 now, and this would make a great addition, and if we get to see a seal - happy days.
Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment,
Gary & Janis
Looks like a real fun place to visit. And I like me a nice little train any day. We've put this town on our list. Thanks for sharing.
🙏 Stefan, surprised you haven't already been, although you do really need a car to get down to here, it's rather remote. Certainly worth a day out, perhaps combine it with Hythe. Hope you and Ellie are well, and this lockdown isn't driving you too insane.
Went this past weekend and this place is amazing and a photographers dream. On the beach there's lot's of old rusting bulldozers and machinery and old rotting wooden boats. And so many different style homes, some old and falling apart, other's old but renovated, and some ultra modern architect designed houses that are absolutely stunning. And then there's the backdrop of a nuclear power station! And somehow, together, it all works. If you are thinking of going, you really must.
😎 How cool, it's a fabulous place, did you catch the steam railway too? And those photo's area a moment in time, the next time you visit it will have changed ever so slightly. Glad you had a great day - keep exploring 😍
Thanks for this great video - I've just spent a couple of days visiting Dungeness and missing it so I enjoyed revisiting here, and learning some additional facts. We were told by a local that the little tracks on the beach were for transporting fishing/boat items up and down as the beach grew and the sea got further away from the road.
Our absolute pleasure, so glad you enjoyed it, it's a wonderful place, and we like to visit it when we can - we're 35 miles away as the crow flies, but this little corner of England draws us back time and time again.
I hope you got a chance to explore a little more of Romney Marsh; it's a terrific place to explore, with an interesting history. If not, then you can always head back.
Anyway, all the best, take care
Gary & Janis
Thanks, yes I'll certainly head back to explore more of the area. I walked around Rye Harbour nature reserve but certainly more of Romney Marsh to discover. I'm in Portsmouth, so it's a few hours away 😊 @@OurWorldForYou
Firstly, if you're in Pompey I hope everything is okay after Storm Ciarán. It's a touch damp here in mid Kent, but I think we escaped the worst of it.
We were in your neck of the woods a short while back to take the Britanny Ferry to and from Spain. It's been a while since we were last there.
We had a little look around Rye Harbour on a sunny day in July as a little road trip around there, just fantastic. There's so much to explore, and we love the seasons; there's something lovely about an autumnal day - probably best when there's not a storm in town though.
Anyway, all the best,
Gary & Janis
Thank you, yes all well regarding the storm, though some big slabs of paving were torn up and transported across the promenade, and roots of sea kale uprooted. Take care and stay safe 😊 @@OurWorldForYou
My favourite drive......😬it just is......especially on a sunny winters day I ❤️Dungeness
David,
Us too, something magical about it - no better time to have fish and chips along that coast than on a cold day with loads of salt & vinegar.
Thanks for taking the time to stop by and leave a comment,
All the best
Gary & Janis
@@OurWorldForYou +Ketchup for me....😋
Excellent video. I like to watch a You Tube video after a day trip. I went today. I recommend the 102 bus that goes from Rye station if like me you don't have a car. You can get off at the stop for The Pilot Inn and walk up towards the Lighthouse or get off a few stops later at The Romney Sands stop for the Railway up to the Lighthouse. You can get a single fare like I did and walk back to The Pilot Inn bus stop for the return bus. Also may I highly recommend the Brittania Inn for food - the chips and fish were so well done and I am very fussy about my fish and chips and the staff were so nice and was very nice inside. Also the Old Lighthouse is well worth a climb. Again v friendly staff and a great wee souvenir shop. I definitely am going back especially for those fish and chips. Excellent video will watch again for next time. Thanks.
Hi Kath, I'm so glad you liked our little video. We just love Dungeness. We will head back very shortly.
Great tip on the bus; we always think that it's hard to get to because there's no rail station (other than the RHDR), forgetting the bus network.
It's been a while since we ate at Dungeness, but the Pilot edged it for us back then - new management at the Britannia must have turned things around, which is good to see.
So glad you enjoyed your day out.
Best wishes,
Gary & Janis
Have enjoyed traveling to Dungeness on railway from Hythe to station at Dungeness.
Dorene, that's a wonderful little trip through the landscape of the Romney Marshes, the sound & smell of steam.
Thanks for sharing,
Gary & Janis
Hi, Thanks for this beautiful and interesting video showing us a totally different and strange world on the south coast of Kent. In the moment I am reading and enjoying the excellent crime series by William Shaw. Your video helped me to get a better vision of the landscape around Dungeness. Cheers from Germany
🙏 Thank you so much sir 😍 Thank you for the compliment on the video, and thank you for awakening me to the works of William Shaw; I must check out his work (I recognise the cover of The Birdwatcher.
Dungeness is a unique place, quite strange, and hard to think it didn't exist before the great storm of 1287. If you want to see more of the landscape check out my 2 Romney Marsh videos too, you'll get to see the landscape around the area, which is fascinating.
I have to ask, which part of Germany, we've travel a bit through Germany, and plan to see much more over the coming years.
Cheers, and thanks for the comment,
Gary & Janis
@@OurWorldForYou Hi Gary, thanks for your feedback. My family and I live in the Rhine area near Cologne / Bonn, but I also know Bavaria. Just let me know in which area you are interested. As a teenager I had my first student exchange with Folkstone. Maybe this is the reason why I am a nostalgic about this area in England. Cheers, Oliver
Hi Oliver, I'll take you up on that offer. Not sure when we'll be back, hopefully, next year. We are skipping the Christmas markets this year; we've been to Cologne around 12 times, if memory serves me correctly.
We have visited maybe 20-30 towns & cities on our travels but still need to get to Hanover, Trier, Leipzig and Dresden, to name but a few.
I bet Folkestone has changed a bit since your exchange visit, but each of the coastal towns is very different on that stretch of the coastline.
Thanks again,
Gary
@@OurWorldForYou Hi Gary, Trier and Dresden are beautiful cities with a lot of history. Why town in Kent would you recommand for a sleep-over while heading from Calais to Stratford-upon-Avon? Cheers Oliver
Hi Oliver, My first thought would be Faversham, then possibly Sevenoaks or even Rochester. However, I have to be honest I have stayed in any of them, but that's because I live so close.
I guess you are doing the reverse of the journeys I have made through Germany. In my mind, it's 4 hours from Calais to Cologne (very easy route, although going round Brussels can be slow).
I assume you are coming into Folkestone/Dover and just want a stopover. Your diect route would be along the M20 Motorway, but I would avoid Ashford & Maidstone.
Are you considering staying at Folkestone on the way back? If not, you should, it has changed over the years, for the better I believe.
Please let me know if there is any other help and advice you require.
We have videos on the following;
Faversham - ruclips.net/video/DidrGc4Fz1Y/видео.html
Rochester - ruclips.net/video/KCn__rSDWi4/видео.html
Stratford-up-Avon - ruclips.net/video/XadAgHfzTeg/видео.html
Folkestone - ruclips.net/video/K2strq8L-Z8/видео.html
Creative Folkestone - ruclips.net/video/8M2bTRpa-oE/видео.html
Safe travels.
Gary
I believe those light-duty rail lines were used by the commercial fishermen, to transport their catch from the distant shore over the shingle to the road, for onward transport to be sold.
Lawrie,
I think you're spot on, because trying to shift a catch over the shale without it would have been arduous, and that's after a few hours at sea and with time against you.
It's a beautiful place, but for those working on it, a challenge,
Anyway, thanks so much for dropping by and taking the time to leave a comment.
All the best,
Gary & Janis
Great video! Did you have to pay to shoot video there?
Hi,
We didn't - strictly speaking we perhaps should have obtained permission, but it was just the two of us on a wander with a DJI Pocket camera, rather than a full film crew. Plus, our aim was only to promote the area, free advertising, so hopefully we're okay.
Thanks for watching,
Take care and safe travels,
Gary & Janis
My grandparents used to live in a home opposite fish hut I live there to part of my childhood. It was demolished a few years the home that now stands was a winner on grand designs.
Wow - how cool. Do you get the chance to go back to Dungeness much? I'll keep a lookout for that home, I may even have it on a spare bit of video somewhere - who knows? 😕
Thanks for the comment, take care & stay well 😍
LOVE THIS AREA ✓
🙏 Thanks, an amazing part of the world 😍
Nice video about Dungeness, what I did keep thinking all the way through was that the guy narrating sounded so much like Martin Kemp of Spandau Ballet! That could be a positive for the lady viewers 😉
Oh Peter, how you made Janis laugh 🤣 pure 'Gold', I'd say so 'True' _ Okay enough puns (Was/Are a big fan of the boys, but it's only Spandau with Tony Hadley's tones...) Anyway thanks so much, glad you liked it - take care, stay safe and a better day is around the corner 😍
@@OurWorldForYou ha ha, what a great response to a comment! Seriously, loved the video, Kent is a place both myself and my Wife have been visiting since we were knee high, absolutely love the area. We now live on the Isle of Wight. Could be another interesting place for one of your future videos. Ps as I believe the railway lines on the beach at Dungeness were to transport fish in small open wagons up from the beach by hand. Keep up the good work, stay safe.
Peter, Janis was brought up on the Isle of white from the age of about 9 until I rescued her when she was 19. Her father was working on the Thames, and when that work dried up, her parents moved to the Isle of Wight to run a guest house in Shanklin. So over the late 80's & early 90's I got to know the Isle of Wight pretty well. It's been a while since we've been back - I blame White Link. Interesting the history of that railway line, I find it hard to believe it was used by the military during the war - it's amazing what you pick up. Just finishing Saturday's video, another from Kent, and another one with a steam railway.
We used to buy fish most Sundays. We met the boats as they landed. The boats were pulled up the shore by a winch cable and the boats rode on timbers, (about 6' x 6"by 2") which were continually dragged by hand from behind the boat, up the beach and laid in front of the boat, about 5' apart. Many fishermen's wives assisted - it was very hard work. Two fishermen then pulled the nets of the boat, shaking the fish onto the beach, a good shake of the net was needed as many fishes gills were caught in the nets! Other fishermen grabbed the fish, still alive, and placed them in boxes each box holding a stone of fish. My recollection is that a stone of fish is more likely to have been a a measure of volume than 14 lbs. At home after I helped others by going around the village where We lived selling fish, (We only bought place), the were sold 7for 1/- 0d, not by weight. Dunge Ness was deserted, (only residents and a dozen or so people) most whom had come to buy fish.
David, some things about Dungeness haven't changed, fish still get landed, and at times it can still be very deserted. Sometimes a bit busier. Which village were you coming from?
You have assumed I moved away and no longer visit? I've visited four times in September and once in October.
@@davidhorn6008 that’s great to know, we have been close by recently visiting Appledore, Snaregate & the Gusbourne estate - we love the Romney Marsh for its uniqueness. We’ll be back soon - we’re currently in the lowlands of Europe - Flanders
I love Romney Marsh but especially Dungeness. I remember it being for sale and if I had enough money I would have loved to own it as by the whole scene of things Idont think it was that much money, not quite sure what I would have done with it but tried to keep it as it was, just a little tidying up.However it does make me wonder why EDF have bought it ,why would a French company be interested it Know of many places that are supeosedly owned by foreign investors and there is often an ulteiria motive linked to money, which we can end up financing and that's not good for our fragile economy
Hi Tim,
Dungeness is special, such a magical place.
Like you, I agree that the Dungeness estate should not be 'private' hands, actually it's owned by the French State, as EDF is wholly French. I do wonder why we can't have a British State-owned energy company, but now we're wandering into politics.
At least it's possible to still explore it freely and explore the magic that is Dungeness.
All the best.
Gary & Janis
Thanks for this. Can you swim in the sea? Is it safe to swim, with the nuclear plant nearby?
Hi Sofia,
The issue is not the nuclear power plant. The main reason not to swim here is the strong currents from its shape and position in the English Channel.
If you want to swim close by, Littlestone is on one side, and Camber is on the other.
You can check the water quality at UK government's environmental agency site 🔗environment.data.gov.uk/bwq/profiles/ for the water quality and whether it is safe to swim.
I hope that helps,
All the best,
Gary & Janis
@@OurWorldForYou thanks for the information 👍
The square building at 1.05 was where the first electricity cable to France came ashore in the late 1960s
Thanks John, another fact learnt. That would be the 160MW system that landed just outside Boulogne-sur-Mer on the French side. I love that Dungeness has so much history (it could probably do with its own museum!)
@@OurWorldForYou the building was in effect a big junction box where the undersea cables were joined to underground cables to the Lydd converter station.
The disused 15" Guage railway
track might have been laid for project PLUTO (Pipeline Under The Ocean) during the second World War when the RH&DR was used to transport material. The pipeline was to supply Fuel to British Forces in France.
It could well have been - its use during WWII is documented, but who knows for sure until the papers surrounding its role are declassified? Looks so different these days, back to how it should be, all about fun.
As children in the early 50's We were told that a second, planned use for PLUTO was to set the sea ablaze in the event of beach landings by enemy troops. Indeed We were shown film of practising this activity on the 1960's TV programme "All our Yesterdays" which showed newsreels of that week, 25 years earlier.
David, now that's really interesting - I bet that newsreel has been lost to time which is a shame.
Dungeness is like Marmite, you either love it or hate it. I personally love it, as does my wife, but my daughter just doesn't get it.
That's interesting Eric - I know some people read about Dungeness being somewhere special, and then are disappointed when they visit - but who wants everyone to be the same? Those of us who enjoy it, love it.
And yes, I love Marmite 😋
Thanks for the comment,
Gary & Janis
the running track lines were fish wagon carriers of fresh catches and usage for fishing equipment ,ie nets engines etc ,nothing to do with any railway ie RHDR whatsoever,I grew up on marshes from 1952 on the branch lines of the british rail lydd railways,there are a lot of memories I hold down there.
Terry, thanks for that detail - you can not beat local knowledge. Do you ever remember a Beach fish line? It appears on the RHDR Wiki page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romney,_Hythe_and_Dymchurch_Railway, and it may be the same lines that the fishermen used? I just can't be sure. Anyway, thanks so much for the comment. I hope you're staying safe and well - take care, Gary
@@OurWorldForYou by 1952 the beachline fish sidings had well closed down as dungeness branchline station had closed in 1937 and the closedown had began for the fishing industry there ,my whole family were involved in the lydd railway etc,from its first opening to its final demise 1967 ,beeching reared his head as holiday camps never got its promise of lots of public and holidays ,theres lots more history
No dungeons to be found here, but a power station!
Hey, how do you know? maybe not public ones 😮 - but it is a massive power station. Take Care - Stay Well 😍
I knew because back in 2004, Channel 4 filmed a Pylon ident, and some bloke said it was near Dungeness Power Station
The "railway lines" on the beach are to do with hauling/unloading/ loading of boats, nothing to do with RH&DR.
Lillie,
Do you have a source for that? The reason I asked the question is if you check out the Wiki page for RH&DR - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romney,_Hythe_and_Dymchurch_Railway, specifically the railway line, you see a branch called the 'Beach Fish Line'. So did that line just ferry passengers to that point, or did it also bring the catch of the day back. If there's a source that tells me what that beach line was for then I'd love to know.
Cheers,
Gary