Yes... this video is LLLLLLOOOOONNNNGGGGG. But it is basically 2 videos in 1 (Cat9 & Cat Pro Snap Shot review AND Cat9 vs TF9 Comparison Review). Check out the chapters in the description so you can skip to the specific sections you are interested in!
Good comparison. Everyone I know with Trues has the True squeak. I honestly don't even hear it anymore, but mine sound like a rocking chair when I walk. I've had TF's for a year now and no issues at all with rust. I don't remove the insoles but do air them out after every skate. I was going to get some Catalyst but after your review going to stick with my TF's. I don't have the space issues at all, I have really thick feet, so no negative space issues.
On one hand, I am sure True sent me these in hopes of getting more sales of these skates. On the other hand I am happy you TF are still working for you. I am glad they came out with the Cat skate as I do feel there was too much volume, so bringing out the 2nd fit profile allows your foot shape and my foot shape to have an option with True!
Great video with a lot of information. FYI - the TF9 tendon guard uses a bolt and not a rivet. Apparently the more flexible CAT tendon guards will fit on the TF9. True sells those separately for $30US/$35 CAD. Some people had issues with the bolt breaking off with the TF9 which is why they went back to rivets for the CAT skates. Perhaps the lack of flexibility in the tendon guard is also part of the reason that happened (the Easton Mako tendon guards are WAY more flexible than the TF9s - the TF9 guards hardly move at all like you illustrate in the video).
Thanks for posting your review, very informative. I just got the Cat 9 a few weeks ago. The blades were both warped, they changed them right away and I also upgraded to the black steel blades, keeping the reg steel in my bag as spares. Although I have only played a few games on them, I can say they are the most secure fitting and comfortable skates I have ever had, so far so good. Also, I took a good slap shot right off the skate boot in my last game and it didn’t even faze me. I was going to get the full custom skates but I couldn’t wait the 8-12 weeks as my season has already started, my other skates were giving me issues with lace bite on my left foot and it was becoming to painful. I tried on a dozen different brand/models and decided to get the Cat9’s, thought they were pretty good right out of the box but after the heat molding they felt fantastic. Initial impressions are good, will see how they hold up and perform during the season.
For anyone looking at TF9’s, my experience with them is exactly the same as this reviewer’s. I wear 9’s for Bauers, 8.5’s for TF9’s. I installed Powerfoot inserts into the toe box of the TF9’s, and also replaced the tongue with a thicker felt tongue. After those mods, the TF9’s fit perfectly. Sounds like True corrected the sizing on the Catalysts so that they now match other brands.
Great job as always! I'm pretty set on getting the Cat 9s in the near future. Hopefully they fix the warped steel on the new shift max holders. I've heard True is aware of the issue.
No worries. This video is a long boi so I totally understand if someone misses something or if I miss something. I'll just happily direct them to the specific part in the video :)
All the big brands saying how light the hyperlites are and how light the skates are now.... I did some research and my bauer T1 NXG skates from what I can find are lighter than any skate ever at 657 grams..... They still rock for me like 8 years later so I dont know if I can bring myself to give them up....
A friend has had two pairs of TF 9’s where the back cracked where the tendon guard attaches. The first pair got replaced. The second pair was out of warranty. This was within two years. DO NOT BUY. Full transparency I have Custom Trues and other than the lack of comfort edge they are one of the most comfortable skates I’ve ever owned.
I’ve been running the TF9 in 9R for 3 or 4 years now. Loved the skates but had to put the tongue in as far as they would go and also a set of “power foot inserts” i believe they were called (foam to take up negative space). Wanna try out the Cat9 and did the true scan and I come out with 10R for sizing. What’s your thought on the sizing? difference one size difference between TF9 and Cat9 seams a lot to me.
True and retailers have said that the warped steel has all been swapped out now and they should be fine. Obviously I can't confirm that but I'd hope that isn't just smoke and mirrors. For sizing... I don't like giving out my sizing as everything will have a different preference for sizes and majority of people I have talked too are in skates too big for them. So... all I will say is I wear an 11 in most shoes.
@@HockeyReviews Thanks. purchased cat 9s and the blades were warped, just a touch. LHS subbed them out for replacements (free) and they are straight as an arrow now.
Need your honest opinion since I can’t find any Catalyst9’s in my area. I’m a 7.5R or Fit2 in CCM and Bauer and they fit great, should I go with the 7.5 or 8 in the Catalysts? I’ve heard mixed reviews on the sizing.
how do you figure out the width? if you Bauer fit 1 or ccm tapered that's easy your a regular or a D but what are you if your a fit2? in Bauer fit 2 of ccm D regular would that be a regular/D in True FT9?
My Cat Pro had a crack in the outer layer after NOT that much use. Unfortunately I never used the 9s but I don't think True really improved on anything here.
Oh, I don't do reviews "on ice". What I meant by that is there would be a review of the skates after I got to use them on ice and actually wear them. Which can be found here: ruclips.net/video/uXFR-7-JxcA/видео.html
It felt like I was on rails for a bit compared to my Tuuk on my custom skates, but after a profile and slight pitch adjustment I haven't had any issues. Steel is solid and I wouldn't swap the holders just to swap them.
@@HockeyReviews would you recommend paying the additional $ for the pro vs the cat9? I'm on quad zero and ccm sb 4.0 holders. What pitch should I adjust the shift steel to on top of matching the quad 0 profile on it to make it similar
I think it depends on how well you fit into retail skates. I've always been "don't buy customs unless you REALLY need it, or you just have the money to spend with no problem." I don't really fit into retail skates, so I basically have to go custom. These Cat Pro are actually more comfortable than my previous True Customs were so I am impressed in that regards. I don't think you would have to pitch anything with the CCM holders. Just get Quad 0 and you should be pretty fine.
@@HockeyReviews thanks for the reply. I was curious the diff with the cat 9 and pro since the retail trues are pretty thernoformable. Only issue I have with retail ccm and Bauer is where the toecap meets the quarter. That area always rubs and or pinches my pinky. I currently have the first gen true customs which I love and was tempted to try the cat pros but thought it might be better off just getting the cat 9 if fit is more or less same as the cat pro
I wouldn't say they fit the exact same. I wasn't really comfortable in the Cat9 and am totally happy with the Cat Pro. But I knew after baking and just wearing the Cat9 for like 5 minutes they wouldn't work.
I’m sorry, those yellow Cat9’s are just so damn ugly. I don’t usually pick equipment based on looks but these are worse looking than the McDonalds (CCM) Jetspeed skates. Even the pro is kinda too much and ugly. I also think comfort edge is a must.
McDonald's Jetspeed's???.. I think the FT4/FT4 Pros look sick! Dun get all the hate I see online. My friend's and people I play with dig the FT4 Red/White/Blk color way as do I. I dig the catalyst 9 and Pro design looks as well.
Why does TRUE need a feature when it’s not a problem on their skates? BAUER and CCM have trained people to shop by a feature rather than something that doesn’t hurt your feet- Hence the need to sell over priced recovery slides
Hello friend! Can you please help me: finally i received my True Catalyst Pro skates. And i have a problem with the length i think... My big toes on both legs are very uncomfortable... i am really disappointed and need you help how to fix it.. thanks in advance.
Have you baked them yet? That is always step 1 but the store you baked them at should be able to help you with any fit issues? I had to put Superfeet into my Catalyst Pro (same thing I had to do with my True Customs) to pull my toes back a bit and then they were perfect.
@@HockeyReviews Sure i baked them 1st... but after 15 min of training i realized that smth wrong... My previos T9 were 9W... as i can note from sticker inside the skates Cat are 9R... How do you think if i bake them again and ask serviceman to put more pressure to the heels? Cause now it looks like still a lot of foam there.
The saran wrap should pull your heel back into the skate as much as possible, so you really shouldn't have to do anything there unless you are getting heel lift. I would seriously look at Superfeet, they should have a 30 day guarantee so you can try them and return them if they don't work.
Yes... this video is LLLLLLOOOOONNNNGGGGG. But it is basically 2 videos in 1 (Cat9 & Cat Pro Snap Shot review AND Cat9 vs TF9 Comparison Review). Check out the chapters in the description so you can skip to the specific sections you are interested in!
what is the size of lightspeed edge holder installed on your old true custom skates. Thanks
Good comparison. Everyone I know with Trues has the True squeak. I honestly don't even hear it anymore, but mine sound like a rocking chair when I walk. I've had TF's for a year now and no issues at all with rust. I don't remove the insoles but do air them out after every skate. I was going to get some Catalyst but after your review going to stick with my TF's. I don't have the space issues at all, I have really thick feet, so no negative space issues.
On one hand, I am sure True sent me these in hopes of getting more sales of these skates. On the other hand I am happy you TF are still working for you.
I am glad they came out with the Cat skate as I do feel there was too much volume, so bringing out the 2nd fit profile allows your foot shape and my foot shape to have an option with True!
Great video with a lot of information.
FYI - the TF9 tendon guard uses a bolt and not a rivet. Apparently the more flexible CAT tendon guards will fit on the TF9. True sells those separately for $30US/$35 CAD. Some people had issues with the bolt breaking off with the TF9 which is why they went back to rivets for the CAT skates. Perhaps the lack of flexibility in the tendon guard is also part of the reason that happened (the Easton Mako tendon guards are WAY more flexible than the TF9s - the TF9 guards hardly move at all like you illustrate in the video).
I will pin this after a few days so more people can see the info about chapters! I knew I got something wrong with the TF9 skates haha
Thanks for posting your review, very informative. I just got the Cat 9 a few weeks ago. The blades were both warped, they changed them right away and I also upgraded to the black steel blades, keeping the reg steel in my bag as spares. Although I have only played a few games on them, I can say they are the most secure fitting and comfortable skates I have ever had, so far so good. Also, I took a good slap shot right off the skate boot in my last game and it didn’t even faze me. I was going to get the full custom skates but I couldn’t wait the 8-12 weeks as my season has already started, my other skates were giving me issues with lace bite on my left foot and it was becoming to painful. I tried on a dozen different brand/models and decided to get the Cat9’s, thought they were pretty good right out of the box but after the heat molding they felt fantastic. Initial impressions are good, will see how they hold up and perform during the season.
I am happy they worked for you and I hope you continue to enjoy them!
How are they holding up?
For anyone looking at TF9’s, my experience with them is exactly the same as this reviewer’s. I wear 9’s for Bauers, 8.5’s for TF9’s. I installed Powerfoot inserts into the toe box of the TF9’s, and also replaced the tongue with a thicker felt tongue. After those mods, the TF9’s fit perfectly. Sounds like True corrected the sizing on the Catalysts so that they now match other brands.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Great job as always! I'm pretty set on getting the Cat 9s in the near future. Hopefully they fix the warped steel on the new shift max holders. I've heard True is aware of the issue.
So... I think you should check the "Areas of concern" section of this video at 43:40 👀
@@HockeyReviews Haha, my bad! I got through the earlier section on the steel and posted my comment before finishing the video. Cheers.
No worries. This video is a long boi so I totally understand if someone misses something or if I miss something. I'll just happily direct them to the specific part in the video :)
Great video, thank you.
Good review brotha! 👍 Keep it up!! :)
All the big brands saying how light the hyperlites are and how light the skates are now.... I did some research and my bauer T1 NXG skates from what I can find are lighter than any skate ever at 657 grams..... They still rock for me like 8 years later so I dont know if I can bring myself to give them up....
I don't really see a point in changing skates unless they are literally falling apart. So if your TotalOne are still going solid keep them going!
Hey: are you going to review the SVH customs? Would love to see that. Thanks
A friend has had two pairs of TF 9’s where the back cracked where the tendon guard attaches. The first pair got replaced. The second pair was out of warranty. This was within two years. DO NOT BUY.
Full transparency I have Custom Trues and other than the lack of comfort edge they are one of the most comfortable skates I’ve ever owned.
But why are they yellow?
I’ve been running the TF9 in 9R for 3 or 4 years now. Loved the skates but had to put the tongue in as far as they would go and also a set of “power foot inserts” i believe they were called (foam to take up negative space). Wanna try out the Cat9 and did the true scan and I come out with 10R for sizing. What’s your thought on the sizing? difference one size difference between TF9 and Cat9 seams a lot to me.
Watch here: 25:29
Got one more question regarding the cat pros. Is there a way to see what size shell was used ? Is the size and width stamped anywhere?
@hockeyreviews I have the tf9s now and the tendon guard is wayy too stiff is there anything I can do about it or no?
You can try and get the Cat9 tendon guard from a True retailer (or can try direct from True) and swap them
great video. slightly concerning on the warp blade issues. size wise, how close does the 8.5 cat9 reflect your shoe size?
True and retailers have said that the warped steel has all been swapped out now and they should be fine. Obviously I can't confirm that but I'd hope that isn't just smoke and mirrors.
For sizing... I don't like giving out my sizing as everything will have a different preference for sizes and majority of people I have talked too are in skates too big for them. So... all I will say is I wear an 11 in most shoes.
@@HockeyReviews Thanks. purchased cat 9s and the blades were warped, just a touch. LHS subbed them out for replacements (free) and they are straight as an arrow now.
Need your honest opinion since I can’t find any Catalyst9’s in my area. I’m a 7.5R or Fit2 in CCM and Bauer and they fit great, should I go with the 7.5 or 8 in the Catalysts? I’ve heard mixed reviews on the sizing.
Are you talking player skate or goalie skate?
@@HockeyReviews player
From my experience Cat 9 fit the same length as CCM and Bauer.
how do you figure out the width? if you Bauer fit 1 or ccm tapered that's easy your a regular or a D but what are you if your a fit2? in Bauer fit 2 of ccm D regular would that be a regular/D in True FT9?
I think that falls into the realm of "you have to try it on and find out." I knew I was always an EE in skates so it was straight forward for me.
Compared to ccm tacks As line vs True which do you find more comfortable ? At my age im tired of sore feet?
Is the Cat9 significantly lighter than the TF9?
True Skates still look like your local Rink Rentals. LOL.
Will you be getting the new SVH True customs too? Very interested in those myself.
Most likely not, but I have the previous gen Customs and they are VERY similar.
my VH footwear custom skates still feel better than my true custom skates
Ik this is an old video but is it true that the true skates especially the cat 9’s have terrible durability?
My Cat Pro had a crack in the outer layer after NOT that much use. Unfortunately I never used the 9s but I don't think True really improved on anything here.
Can you do review on marsblade ice holder
Unfortunately I don't think I will be able to check that out.
Is the toe box different in the cat vs tf. Ive heard one is wider. Thanks
Cat is more streamlined, check out 39:31
@@HockeyReviews Perfect that's what I thought you meant. Also I don't see the on ice video. THANKS FOR GETTING BACK
Oh, I don't do reviews "on ice". What I meant by that is there would be a review of the skates after I got to use them on ice and actually wear them.
Which can be found here: ruclips.net/video/uXFR-7-JxcA/видео.html
How do you find the max shift holder. I'm on the fence of giving it a shot when I get my cat pros or have true send the holders unattached
It felt like I was on rails for a bit compared to my Tuuk on my custom skates, but after a profile and slight pitch adjustment I haven't had any issues. Steel is solid and I wouldn't swap the holders just to swap them.
@@HockeyReviews would you recommend paying the additional $ for the pro vs the cat9? I'm on quad zero and ccm sb 4.0 holders. What pitch should I adjust the shift steel to on top of matching the quad 0 profile on it to make it similar
I think it depends on how well you fit into retail skates. I've always been "don't buy customs unless you REALLY need it, or you just have the money to spend with no problem."
I don't really fit into retail skates, so I basically have to go custom. These Cat Pro are actually more comfortable than my previous True Customs were so I am impressed in that regards.
I don't think you would have to pitch anything with the CCM holders. Just get Quad 0 and you should be pretty fine.
@@HockeyReviews thanks for the reply. I was curious the diff with the cat 9 and pro since the retail trues are pretty thernoformable. Only issue I have with retail ccm and Bauer is where the toecap meets the quarter. That area always rubs and or pinches my pinky.
I currently have the first gen true customs which I love and was tempted to try the cat pros but thought it might be better off just getting the cat 9 if fit is more or less same as the cat pro
I wouldn't say they fit the exact same. I wasn't really comfortable in the Cat9 and am totally happy with the Cat Pro. But I knew after baking and just wearing the Cat9 for like 5 minutes they wouldn't work.
Man the cat pro really looks sleek. Too bad the cat 9 doesn't have the darker Color scheme.
I’m sorry, those yellow Cat9’s are just so damn ugly. I don’t usually pick equipment based on looks but these are worse looking than the McDonalds (CCM) Jetspeed skates. Even the pro is kinda too much and ugly.
I also think comfort edge is a must.
McDonald's Jetspeed's???.. I think the FT4/FT4 Pros look sick! Dun get all the hate I see online. My friend's and people I play with dig the FT4 Red/White/Blk color way as do I. I dig the catalyst 9 and Pro design looks as well.
Why does TRUE need a feature when it’s not a problem on their skates? BAUER and CCM have trained people to shop by a feature rather than something that doesn’t hurt your feet- Hence the need to sell over priced recovery slides
I specifically mention it because I noticed it when I am playing goalie. So for goalie skates I wish it was there.
Hello friend! Can you please help me: finally i received my True Catalyst Pro skates. And i have a problem with the length i think... My big toes on both legs are very uncomfortable... i am really disappointed and need you help how to fix it.. thanks in advance.
Have you baked them yet? That is always step 1 but the store you baked them at should be able to help you with any fit issues?
I had to put Superfeet into my Catalyst Pro (same thing I had to do with my True Customs) to pull my toes back a bit and then they were perfect.
@@HockeyReviews Sure i baked them 1st... but after 15 min of training i realized that smth wrong... My previos T9 were 9W... as i can note from sticker inside the skates Cat are 9R...
How do you think if i bake them again and ask serviceman to put more pressure to the heels? Cause now it looks like still a lot of foam there.
The saran wrap should pull your heel back into the skate as much as possible, so you really shouldn't have to do anything there unless you are getting heel lift.
I would seriously look at Superfeet, they should have a 30 day guarantee so you can try them and return them if they don't work.
@@HockeyReviews But how Superfeet can help me with the length of the skate?
they help keep your arch from collapsing so your foot ends up staying shorter. I cover it here:
ruclips.net/video/5VFiyut675M/видео.html