Cells, Trays & Starting Mix - How to Stop Fungus Gnats 100%: Starting Vegetable Seeds Indoors
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- Starting seeds indoors isn't difficult once you know the basics. I cover cells/containers, flats, starting mix and how to prepare your starting mix so you sterilize it. This will prevent those nasty fungus gnats as well as other fungus, molds and diseases.
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I cannot compliment enough how Gary's video's are helpful to not only novices but also for seasoned growers. He is accurate, knowledgable and kind enough to go step by step and I really appreciate about it. It is okay if you have no idea about these things, Gary got your back covered. 👍
Most of what you're saying also is true of some other RUclips gardening educators, like MIGardener, Huw Richards and James Prigioni, but somehow I just absorb the info and tips far better from Gary's vids
This tip about boiling the water to hydrate the soil (or baking it..which ever) was a game changer for me when I was first getting started several years ago. Gary, you saved me SO much aggravation!! Just that one tip you gave back when I first got started made you my gardening GOD! Still watching!! That had to be 4 years ago maybe.
So glad the aggravation level came down. I got gnats from succulents I brought in last year. My level returned lol. Very glad to help. Good luck this year.
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Great information about sterilizing the seed mix. Sometimes the fungus gnats can get really bad, and other times not so much. It's nice to know why and how to prevent it. Thanks for sharing what you know with all of us.
Appreciated. Good luck.
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AT 5:45 you mention not needing the humidity dome; I couldn't agree more. Too many folks on RUclips swear by it, and then two videos later discuss microgreens without another mention. I've certainly never needed it. Thank You!
When you started talking about the fungus gnats (8:30), I had a little flashback from last year. I think the peat moss or soil we grabbed at Lowes was infested because the garden was a mess for a while. Fortunately, I took your advice about the boiling water from another post and had no issues inside.
Gnats are there is what I operate on now. The dome makes a nice tray.
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I have a nice set-up in my basement for starting seeds. I loved your idea of boiling water for the seed starting mix so much that I bought an induction burner so I can boil my water in my basement!
It really helps. Good luck.
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Great starting the seeds in heat treated soil. Gnat and fungi are held at bay. Thanks for your continuous dedication to smaller gardeners. Happy new year.
Very glad to help. I have 4 flats going. NO gnats!
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Ah HA! Wish I'd done that. I've been devastated by those horrible critters. Great info, as always.
I have been there.
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Gary your videos are awesome they are helping new garners and I really appreciate it. God bless your family and everyone
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cool I am itching to get started again
I am planting some starts now for video props.
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Thanks for the tip on boiling water, just finished and let it sit for a day or two!
Perfect.
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Great information, thanks! I think I've diseased many of my plants so I will try watering from the bottom.
You will like watering from the bottom, once you get the hang of it.
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This makes so much sense! I've had baby basils taken down by whatever's growing in the rich soil I got for growing veggies. it looks like a fungus that seemed innocuous enough until it started to appear on the little stems of my basil seedlings. And also yes, fungus gnats galore. It's a buffet and I'm footing the bill. None of the 21 basil seedlings made it. My mistake was mostly overwatering from the top, but ever since I used sterile substrates and water sensibly the fungus problem doesn't come back and the gnats stay away.
Gary your an Amazing teacher !!!!
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As always thanks.
That's the starter soil I used last year and omg I was infested with those little black bugs. I did add boiling water to the dirt. I used the yellow sticky papers and was changing them every other day.
Yep. Once water is added to these mixes the eggs hatch.
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If a person is planning ahead, they can use soil solarization if they don't want to go through the trouble of the boiling water option.
Nice video Gary, very informative. Planting time nearly here. Regards. Eamonn.
We are getting close to seed starting.
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I use the humidity dome when temporarily protecting seedlings while hardening-off. I get a lot of pollen and cotton-wood and it helps. When it gets dusty or if aerosol sprays & perfumes (and disinfectants these days) have been used in the house, I use it then too.
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Will you be doing a Video about Winter Sowing? I like the idea of starting seeds indoors in February, then bringing them outdoors immediately, so we can eliminate the hardening off step.
I will be. You can just move flats in and out too. The warmth at night helps with germination. This is better way for the cool weather crops like lettuce and kale. They tend to be more stocky.
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I started winter sowing in late December. I used various containers (deli/soup containers, salad mix containers, 2-Liter soda bottles, deep tupperware containers, etc) and poked holes in both the top and bottom. I then filled them with 2-3 inches of potting soil, placed my seeds in, covered them with soil and watered. I used duct tape to label my containers and then put a piece of clear tape on top of the label (this is so that the name doesn't come off during the winter due to snow or rain). I placed the containers outside on my patio and they'll sit there all winter. When Spring comes they'll start to bloom and sprout. Easy peezy!
Loved learning how to stop the fungus (on Coir) and those pesky little bugs. Thank YOU!!!
It really helps. They can withstand freezing so heat is the only way.
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I like to use those humidity domes for the first few fays sometimes - especially with those tough starters like rosemary and lavender. But I will try that fridge trick.
Good luck
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Very good info. I had a horrible experience with those fungus gnats. I ended up throwing many seedling into my yard and trying different methods. I thought buying new seed starting methods would help. I think I helped those gnats by not boiling water and adding it to my soils. Thank you my seed starting will begin again with boiling water and baking it.
Yeah a sterile mix to seed start is key. Boiling water really helps.
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I have been saving my Keurig single serve coffee containers. I'm going to try starting my seeds in those. I can write on the pot itself and can water from the bottom. I hope I have made a good choice.
Perfect true. And it can take water in from the bottom.
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I didn't even think of that! I'll try the Verismo pods now! Thank you! :)
I added 2 additional holes with a hot ice pick.
Growing some pots of Pinguicula tina is good for keeping the number of gnats down. they get stuck in the leaves.
Clever. Thanks
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I like that boiled water technique... very awesome
Simple and effective.
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Thank so you much for this series. I am learning so much! Your efforts are appreciated :)
Glad to share. More coming for 2021
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Thank you so much for these videos. You have helped my garden tremendously!
So glad to help,.
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I have been looking for this information forever! Thanks so much. Just repotted my plants today but if that doesn't work, now I know what to do.
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Thank you for sharing
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I’m loving this series - thank you!
Another one will be out in about an hour.
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Thank you so much for your knowledge and the way you teach us! You make it simple enough that people like me understand 😂. Do you use regular potting mix when you transplant to bigger pots? Do you use boiling water to kill eggs in the potting mix? I’m sorry if my questions are no brainers to the seasoned gardeners, but I would love to have just a quarter of your knowledge! Thank you!
If it is staying indoors, I often use boiling water for the potting up mix. If it is going outside relatively soon and my other plants are pretty much finished up inside, I skip that step.
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To start LOL or that I made a video after several weeks.
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Thats my goal!
You really do great videos. I replied to another one of your videos earlier today because I just found you. I have tried starting plants from seeds years ago and was never successful. I am doing great this year so far. My plants are looking great so far. I am concentrating solely on Carolina reapers and other peppers with a scoville rating of 800,000 or more. I have 3 grow boxes going right now containing almost 200 peppers. I'm hoping I can get at least 50-60 plants to fruit. I'll give away the rest. If you have any suggestions or tips I would be very happy to listen to what you have to tell.
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Thanks so much. So much heat. Specific tips. Sounds like your are on right track.
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Another great video
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Very helpful video! Thank you.
Glad to help
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Gary, great video as always!! Can I microwave the soil instead? Just curious.
Moisten it, then microwave it in bursts. You dont want to burn it.
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Thank you for the info about sterilizing the potting mix! 😊 Quick question, what are your thoughts (if you’ve used them) on the biodegradable potting bags? I ordered some and I was just curious if you had had any experience with them and what your thoughts were. Thank you so very much for sharing all of the amazing knowledge and experience that you have with “us” the RUclips world I appreciate you immensely!!!! Thank you
I havent used them. Do you know what they are made out of?
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I didn’t remember off the top of my head so I went back into Amazon where I bought them and looked it up and one copy and paste later here you go.
Per Amazon *“BIODEGRADABLE PLANT BAGS - These seed grow bags are made of eco-friendly plant fiber, great moisture holding, while allowing breathability. These bags allow moisture to go right through, and roots to grow out of the bag when they are ready. Extra water runs out easily.”*
Great video!!!! Thank you for sharing this knowledge! Recommendations on seed starting mix? Because the stores around me are focused still on Christmas.
I just buy what is on sale. Often it is Jiffy. Boiling water is key though.
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Gary Pilarchik (The Rusted Garden) does it have to be seed starting mix or can it be potting soil? Thx!
Salongirl Gardens I ordered some from Gardeners Supply along with some coco coir. It was inexpensive and I didn’t have to wade through Christmas stuff. My local stores don’t have seed starting mix either.
Jennifer Suorez it’s ridiculous that ppl don’t carry this cuz it’s so important for us gardeners at this time. They’re missing $ on the gardening niche. I guess that just shows that not many ppl care about growing? Idk. I hope it changes. Heading to gardeners supply now. Thx.
Wow that is very interesting. I used the highly compressed bricks of coco coir, then rehydrate them. I have not seen any fungus gnats. But I know now, if that should develop, how to deal with it. Thnks
The pressed coir seems pretty safe.
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Great info
Thanks
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Hi Gary I’m loving the videos they are so helpful. I’m new to gardening and seed starting. I bought the smaller cells from you. Could you tell me what the next size cell I should buy when potting up? It’s the second one you show. I would like to start tomatoes in that size. You were out in your store. Also you never mentioned heat pads when starting seeds. Do I need a heating pad?
Thanks so much
The small cells are great starters. You can buy any 8-12 ounce cup and put holes in the bottom. Thats a good pot up. We cell round 4 inch pots. They are great. I am also using the quart fabric pots from Root Pouch we sell. You just want the pot up to size they can still till they are ready for the ground. To just start tomato in cells... it the largest 6 cell we have. It will tell you.
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I did way too much top watering with my seed starts this year. Lots of algae! Will stick to bottom watering from now on.
It will help.
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You can also deal with the gnats ( especially if you already have plants growing) by using hydrogen peroxide with a1 part HO to 4 parts water. You do have to top water and need to wet the soil at least 1 inch down. In starts I fully wet the pot. Do this every time you water till you don’t see gnats anymore. It sterilizes them and their eggs. Also stops fungus
Thanks so much
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Hi Gary. Loving your videos. I’m planning on using the soil pellets to start my seeds should I use hot boiling water to hydrate them before planting?
It wont hurt but I found they are often not bothered with fungus gnats. But better safe than sorry.
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I don't have the space for seeding indoors. Will there be a series on direct sowing for this upcoming season?
google "winter sowing" You can start your seeds outdoors!
There will be alternatives for sure. And some direct sowing and seed starting in flats outdoors.
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Would the boiling water technic also be done for winter sowing? I don’t have grow lights, but I do use a small greenhouse outside.
If you are using store bought potting mix it is good to do where every you grow. But outdoors is not as big as an issue.
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You mentioned sterilizing the mix and then storing it. Is it ok to store it while its still damp? I'm asking because I have had a bag of potting mix in past. It had moisture in it. It started growing mushrooms!
I wont be starting very many plants so plan on using the bigger seed starting cells. You mention you like to feed the plants when you pot up and transfer them to a larger pot. How should I feed my plants if I wont be moving them to another pot before going outside?
Water soluble fertilizer when you water. A really really small amount. I will be going over that.
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Another Great video Gary, two questions, when do I break out the hydrogen peroxide squirt bottle, and should I microwave the seed starter mix dry or wet..?
Micro wave moist. Keep an eye on it. The spray bottle anytime you feel best.
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I've been using a lot of the advice in your videos in the last few weeks and already have lots of great seedlings. Getting to the point where some will need to be potted on in the next week or two and I'm going to be using a different potting mix. Do you recommend sterilising all potting mixes in the same way or is that just something for starting mix?
Great to hear. I mostly just do it for the starting mix. Potting mix probably brings in stuff but it is hard to sterilize with boiling water as it is moistened already. I actually pot up with starting mix if I still have young seedlings. If I am past germinating and plants have some size i just go to potting mix.
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Hi Gary thanks for sharing your knowledge. Did you ever consider using a microwave to treat moist soil, could work?
I do that too sometimes. I actually sell large bags at my seed shop for that or use turkey roasting bags.
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Question. When would you start Tomato seed in doors for zone 8A Springhill, LA?
I have videos on timing. Its hard for me to say as its based on you frost day. When you are free of frost and ground temps stay in the 50's and warm. That is your target date. Start them 6-8 weeks before that time
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Some people use hydrogen peroxide and charcoal.. heard silica is good ... all for preventing insect fungus disease etc... except silica May also strengthen plant cells... have you worked with any of those?
I use h202 in emergencies. it works well. I found boiling water in the starting mix really removes all issues. But when I brought in house plants last years the gnats went right to my seedling.
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I started some of my seeds before I saw this video! I didn't sanitize my starter mix (Burpee organic). Is there anything I can do to be sure their are no bugs in my plants now? They seem to be growing fine, and I don't see gnats....
Not really. This is just a good precaution. Not doing it doesnt mean you will have an issue.
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Should you at least spritz the seed at the surface right after the seed goes in, or will the water wick up to the seed after several hours? And should you let the water dry out before adding more? Or do you change the water every two or three days and make sure there is always water under the plant?
Water will surely wick up. No need to spritz. I have a video on watering that will help in this series.
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@ garypilarchik I have a grow light set up that I bought (and love) but it’s nonstandard size. Would using metal trays to hold my seed trays/cups warm them up too much or harm them in any way? Thanks!
No the aluminum doesnt do much for heat addition. Just like any other tray.
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So.. you say you don't bother adding anything until you pot up. What would you suggest if you started in the bigger cups (brownish colored cups you sell on your shop) to be a good time to add fertilizers or amendments?
I like using worm casting in there. I will put worm casting in my seed starting mix sometimes. Ill be ding a video on it. I wanted to start with the basics in the series. And any water soluble fertilizer will still take care of your bigger cups. Basically we could just use WS.
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Can we use your peat moss/compost/topsoil mix for seed starting?? I already did and my seedlings seem to be fine but wondering for the future.
Outdoor yes. Indoors it will work but you bring in potential insects and fungus. They thrive in house temps without Nature to keep them under control
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Hi Gary, question for you, I made a mistake a picked up the Jiffy young plant mix rather than the seed starting mix . Is there a difference between the two? Can I use it as a seed starting mix ?
You know. I never heard of that. Sorry
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Are the larger cells (the ones you've said you could plant into at the start and not need to transplant) the ones on your storefront that are advertised as 144 cells? It's say's there that they measure 1.5" x 1.5". Is that right? In your video they look larger.
144 cells in a flat are the smaller spaces. They are a lot of options if you click the store front. They descriptions should say. But 72 cells per flat and lower are the larger ones.
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I’ve been boiling my soil like you mentioned but it seems that even after I plant in containers outside the gnats still find their way on the soil so aggravating!!!!😫😫😢
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Could we get the same results by just microwaving the starter mix.
of course that would work, you are basically steaming it.
Yep that works too. I do that at times.
Another poster said she also bakes it in the oven and it works too
Be very careful microwaving starter soil, it must be moist and if you should Microwave it too long, when you take it out of the Microwave it it could start to smoke and it will burn and could even catch fire! Never microwave seed starter soil too long and do not leave it unattended!
What is the advantage of smaller starting trays? Is it only about space? As they grow you would have the same space issue, is that correct?
Start small, get more started when it is cold. As they get to size to pot up, warm temps are coming or at least not freezing. So some stuff goes outside and other places. So I dont put all the pot ups under the grow lights. Just depends on what your growing, when your starting and all that. But if you have room for larger cells to start, that is a good way.
I have some Miracle Grow Potting mix, would it be ok to start seeds in that? or do you need a starter mix?
Seeds start in it fine. Indoors always a chance of bring in insects.
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What's your thought on starting seeds in coconut coir?
It works. I tried it but they didnt does as well as the straight peat and vermiculite mix. I found the later had a better consistency.
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What is your recipe for seed starter?
Now I just use Jiffy mix.
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I've started my seeds .. and the plant was doing great until it got a little bit bigger, the leaves started to curl upwards ! I thought it would be from some bugs so I used neem oil but still the baby leaves are growing curled up already ! What could cause the problem ?
CFdeedee What kind of seeds did you start? Do the plants need more light?
@@jennifersuorez7860 I started many seeds like tomatoes, radish and different types of peppers .. I only noticed the problem with the peppers ! They grew just fine at the beginning (Natural lights) but as soon as they got a little bigger than 3 inches tall the leaves started to curl upwards !
Its hard to say without seeing them. Sorry.
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Did you start with soil that may have had fertilizer in it? Have you added any fertilizer?
@@tpowfjb It was because of too much watering ! it didn't kill the plant but in the same time it didn't know what to do with all the extra water, so it went to leaves which caused the little water cells to expand and cause it to curve !
Why don't you recommend the Jiffy seed starting mix?
I use it. I just sometimes make it clear I dont recommend it over others. That is what I meant. Its not better or worse, it was just on sale one day and now I have like 30 bags. Only $2 a bag.
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Do i need o sterilize used cell packs or just clean hem up a little?
I dont sterilize them. Get rid of the old dirt and reuse.
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can you sterliize your own compost?
Probably but not sure how. It seems heating it would work but that will kill off all the good life too. Starting mix doesnt have any from the start.,
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Easier to put it in a 9 x 13 pan and bake in the oven at 350 for 1/2 hour!
Unless your wife hates the smell
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