Here I am, in my southamerican office, so proud to having prussian blood in my veins! It is hard to explain... I have never been there, but this is not necessary. My best wishes to all of you who have something to do with East Prussia!!
No need to be proud as you born and will die only your actions will define you. Among us only those people are good who are God fearing and obedient to his Lord.... No German no Arab or African are great only pious people are regarded as best.
To zależy od tego co się ma na myśli mówiąc Prusy, czy chodzi o dawne Prusy Wschodnie (obecne Mazury, Warmia i tzw. Okręg Kaliningradzki), czy państwo pruskie założone w 1701 roku)
Changing name is still possible but it cannot be returned to Germany cos there are millions of local Russians who would not leave. They says it must remain Russian as long as they stay there. When the two Germans were reunited in 1990, Germany renounced reclaim to whole of former East Prussia and other areas held by the Polish. There are some Germans living in Kalingrad but they are friendly to Russians and respect to the city remain in Russia.
This is a territory taken by force, which has never been Russian or part of the Russian empire until 1945. Germany was forced to renounce any claims to old territories as a condition of German unification in 1990, but this does not justify Russian ownership of Kaliningrad. In 1945 over 14 million German civilians were kicked out of their homes at 3 hours notice and told to march west - hundreds of miles west. This included elderly people, women with babies, children, etc. They were allowed to pack only the bare minimum. Some 2 million died in this death march. This is something rarely talked about, but has been widely documented.
Ничё будем арендовать Кёнингсберг еще лет сто за не выплаченные репарации России Германией , как победителю=) Тем более русские город после британских бомбёжек восстанавливали, так что лет через сто посмотрим=))))
UnterGlenn, you’re such a poor boy. Kaliningrad (Königsberg) is today a part of Russia, not Poland. And Warsaw, Kraków - are these „German cities“? Warsaw was completely destroyed by the nazis at the end of WW II, but the Polish rebuilt it better than before. Maybe because they are Polish. :-> Btw, I am German, but I found your comment disgusting.
ehm... królewiec, how u call it, isnt polish! königsberg only was polish during the polish-lithuanian era and thats only because u occupied it and it still used to be in prussia
Nie da się objąć całej historii w paru wersach. Nie od dzisiaj szkoda mi tych autochtonów, którzy wyjechali. Proces ich zniemczania postępował jednak b.szybko przed r.1945 o czym Pan nie wspomina. Zwalanie winy za ich zniknięcie na Rosjan jest uproszczeniem stawiającym sprawę na głowie. Czy w ogóle twierdzi Pan, że nasz 45-letni eksperyment z komuną ta wina Rosjan?
Кёнигсберг умер в 1944 году. Жаль, это был красивый старинный город в восточной Пруссии, но восстанавливать исторические постройки считаю уже не нужно, прошло слишком много времени и момент упущен. Да и была другая культура, другие люди. И ещё, только в СССР фашистами были стёрты с земли много городов и сёл, убито более 20 миллионов человек, включая мирное население и за ЭТО надо было отвечать. Кстати, Кёнигсберг разбомбили совсем не Русские солдаты.
Хотя я согласен с тем, что немцы совершали ужасные зверства по отношению к жителям западной части СССР, оккупация северной части Восточной Пруссии кажется просто мелким актом мести, как и навязанная граница Одер-Ниссе. России нужно было не больше земли, а возможность эксплуатировать землю, которая у нее уже была.
А что делали несколько полков бомбардировщиков до 9 апреля? Что они сбрасывали на город? Посмотрите, сколько сил участвовало в штурме Кенигсберга у памятника 1200. Там перечислены все полки и дивизии, которые штурмовали город.
@Breuco --incredible, I'm Southamerican as well and even without East-Prussian forbearers, I've always been attracted by Köenigsberg and all the German cities east of the Elbe...
In the spring of 2008 in Kaliningrad has begun to restore on purpose designing of the town-planning program historical center Königsberg which has been destroyed during storm of a city and later it was not restored. Program end is planned by 2018.
@1993VNG You talking of expulsion of Germans, by the way entirely decided by superpowers. Why aren't you talking about expulsion of Poles by Germany in September-November 1939. There were 1,5 million of them and many deliberately murdered, all property STOLEN by Germany. My mother, being a child was one of them, my grandpa arrested without a reason, marked for execution. My grandma found way to Gestapo to pay high ransom in gold to save his life. So Germans were making money in a gunpoint !
@Mikele33 One can hope that you have different plans for the present inhabitants of this town than your ancestors had for the Russians who are living there now. Would you like to take some other lands as well? The present national borders resulted from unprovoked Germany's aggression. It is heartbreaking to see films of personal tragedies caused by any war, but Germans wholeheartedly supported their Nazis, either because of stupidity or by being duped by propaganda and this is its result.
this will be a long long way.... what will happen to the people there...? and what is with the russian navy ther? mmh...and south ostpreussen is polish and they are not so happy about such dreams
waaa the great Königsberg, hauptschtadt der East Prussia becomes a third world city ! Owned ! Even in 1944 the city seems to be more pretty than nowadays...sad
Königsberg in Preußen. Königsberg in Prussia. Koningsbergen in Oost-Pruisen (jez. ol.) Кёнигсберг - Навсегда! Смерть большевикам! Калинин умер! Кёнигсберг жив!
@@marwi2091 Mi chodzi o samo nazewnictwo miasta . Załozyli go Czesi ,wiec Breslau to nie oryginalna nazwa . Co się tyczy zarzadzaniem to za czasów Kazimierza wlk. nie ostawał od miast niemieckich .
@@marwi2091 nie ,potem przyszła wojna i rok 45 . Polacy przyszli na .... zrujnowane .Co do przebudowy to zaczeło się nawet wcześniej . Takie Sępolno np. 1918 -jedyne osiedle tak zaprojektowane na całym świecie . Za niemca Wrocław przeżywał swój okres świetności .
Grüße an alle aus Königsberg, ich bin zu Besuch hier war gestern mit einem Spendentopf in Pillkallen und auch in Lasdehnen, man freute sich sehr. Martin - früher daheim in Kermuschienen
@fanaber70 In Sarmatia, in northern Belarus and western Russia and northern Ukraine, around modern Smolensk. The Baltic peoples are connected to the Slavs, but the Balts including the West Baltic tribes of Prussians and Sudovians were more ancient than the Slavs. Slavs never settled in Königsberg. The only Slavic element about Königsberg and the Prussian, Gothic and Viking trade settlements is King Ottokar II of Bohemia, after whom the city was named by the Teutonic Order!
Lwów był założony przez Rusinów (Ukraina wtedy jeszcze nie istniała), dopiero Kaziu Wielki przyłączył go do Polski, potem polskie osadnictwo i kolonizacja. Podobnie było w tym samym czasie z Wrocławiem. On z kolei odpadł od Polski na rzecz Czech a tym samym później przeszedł pod panowanie Habsburgów. Do Prus należał dopiero od 18 wieku
Ишь чего захотеои!!! Да здравствует Калининград!!! Кёнигсбергу пришёл конец 9 апреля 1945 года! А если быть точными, то сами немцы войдя в Советский Союз с войной предрешили судьбу Кёнигсберга!!! Пусть этот город, город Калининград юудет вечным напоминанием тем, кто хотя бы подумает посягнуть на Россию!!!
Pomorze Szczecińskie było bodaj pierwszym obszarem poza ziemiami Polan, które zostało przyłączone przez Piastów do tworzącego się państwa polskiego i przez nich chrystianizowane, ale faktyczne Pomorzanie z tych obszarów parli do niezależności i ostatecznie po paru próbach oderwali się od Polski w 11 wieku. Jedynie pd. część - Kraina (Wałcz, Czaplinek , Złotów) ostała się w Polsce
That is not true. Of course there were Nazi supporters in Germany, but people were not applauding and cheering when Warsaw was bombed. That is just a lie.
@paulmac38 At least for that konigsberg,interburg area it would be better to be within poland or germany not russia .There is only poverty,mafia nothing else very dangerous place.I was ther 3 times
@wladys678 Slavic population resides in Poland for a minimum of FIVE thousand years. It has been proven by evidence of linguistic nature, ancient chronicle and recently by research of male chromosome Y. Harvard University Peter Underhill map shows it, same Harvard studies of Anatoly Klyosov and I.Rozansky. This regards also to lands of what is now Germany, populated by Slavs in almost entire area, some by Celts. Slavs were sedentary agricultural peoples, whereas Germanic tribes nomads.
Well the former East Prussia of Germany or nowadays Poland is located in former Baltic Prussian lands(Baltic Prussians are related to Lituanians,Latvians,Curonians).And Poland togerther with Teutonic knights were involved in Crusade against Baltic Prussians.So those lands belongs to Balts.
@@bingo5767 Lithuanians, Latvians and Prussians are called Baltoslavs and are subbranch of of Slavic languages, their kinship to Slavic branch is undeniable. Calling Poland responsible for crusades against Prussians is gross simplification. First, Poland at time 1138-1320 underwent a period of fragmentation lasting 182 years and the central power was either weak or nonexisting. Konrad of Mazovia, who in 1226 brought Teutonic Order to help him repel persistent plunder of Mazovia by Prussians, soon fell into open conflict with the Teutonic Order in 1234. This conflict never ended and was taken over by Poland reunited in 1320. Though reunification in 1320 was limited to only two provinces out of original five provinces that were subject to will of Bolesław IIIrd who died in 1138, these were Małopolska, Wielkopolska, Mazowsze, Pomorze and Śląsk, only the first two reunited in 1320. In 1331 Poland, won a major battle against the Order at Płowce. Mazovia did not reunite with Poland until 1529, but usually acted in alliance. The protruding war Poland vs whole Western Europe led by the Teutonic Order trying to invade, subjugate and colonize Lithuania and Ruś continued and entered a stage of open war when Henry Lancaster of England, future king, allied with the Order invaded Lithuania 1390-1394 but failed in bloody battles that took a tall of 40 thousand invaders. Then Poland won a major Battle of Grunwald 1410. Finally all Prussia became part of Kingdom of Poland in 1466,, as result of a 13-year war against Teutonic Order, but also at the request of people of Prussia. Poland protected the Prussian language so books could be published in this language in XVI century. Protestantisation of Prussia was a defeat for Prussian language that finally got extinguished by German in XVII century, but also many Prussians got mixed with Poles from neighbouring Mazovia and created Mazurian and Warmian dialects spoken by nearly a million inhabitants of Prussia.
@@wladys678 Gross simplification is this "Balto-Slavic" lunacy. Latvians and Lithuanians are classified as Eastern Balts, and Prussians as Western Balts. Most of the slight similarities are result of more recent imperialism on the part of Poland, and Russia. But, Slavs at-least partly descend from a hybrid culture of Dniepr Balts, and Western Schythians, who had subjugated the latter. However, this relation does not enable you to make any sort of claims. Slavs did inhabited a small part of modern-day Southeastern Poland before the migration period, but not much more than that. There are theories claiming that Slavs have been in Central Europe for at least five centuries as you claim, but most historians dismiss them as work of fiction, made up in the heads of insecure Slav nationalists.
@HHHPPP8 Russkije Braty i Susjedy Spasibo Vam za osvobozdenije Polszy w 45 godu i za otpravleije krizakov ze staroj slavjanskoj zemlji Budte zdorov Gorjaczij privjet iz Polszy !!!
@1993VNG Remember, the new border btw Poland and Germany was established by superpowers:USA,England,USSR without consulting a single Pole. Also remember, Poland in 1945 lost more lands on east than gained on west incl.vital cultural Polish centers. Remeber, it was Germany to launch WW2 with its unprecedeted murdering methods, anyone who does that takes a risk of loss in case of defeat. These lands were mostly new to Germany-since 1870.
You make a mistake. Königsberg was founded by the Teutonic order in 1255. East Prussia was German for many centuries, no since 1870. As for your remarks about Poland, I fully concur!
You mean Stettin which was part of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations since 1149 and then the German Empire until 1947. The Polish ethically cleansed all of the inhabitants of Pomerania 1945-1947.
@paulmac38 At least for the area it would be better be withing poland or germany .There is only poverty,mafia nothing else very dangerous place.I was ther 3 times
@1993VNG These lands are called historical Polish lands, although its history is diferent for each region. Eg.Silesia was conquered in a war by Prussia in 1743 and eversince underwent brutal germanisation germanisation. Gdansk was conquered by Prussia in January 1793 after a month long siege in which its inhabitants aided the Polish crew, only the treason of Russia enabled Prussian army to enter the city. Prussia was initiated a conspiracy w.Austria&Russia to erase Polish state 1772-95.
@tupakki yes true but then it all depends on the majority for example The Falklands are on the doorstep of Argantina but the population is 99.9% British decent and these islands are British like Koninsberg is German. But if the people of Koninsberg where to cause a big enough stir then Russia whould have no choice but to relent the Soviet Bear is gone she may be stronge but Russia is but a Cub. Compeared to the USSR ..
@tupakki If you understand where I am going with this it is not Chynechna or South Ossetia this is Koninsberg if confronted on a large scale Russia whould have to relent. As Koninsberg whould have the backing of NATO UN and the EU
I really don't think Germany wants this territory back. It makes no geographical or geopolitical sense for Germany to have it back. The best thing would be to give it to Poland, and perhaps Poland could then give Stettin back to Germany, which makes more sense.
Long live Königsberg! REVIVE OLD PRUSSIA
Да здравствует Калининград - моя Родина! Забудьте вы уже о Кёнгсберге! Спасибо скажите Адику!😂😂😂
@@НадеждаСемиколеноваОтвет спустя 14 лет😂😂😂
Возможно этого человека уже нет в живых...
Here I am, in my southamerican office, so proud to having prussian blood in my veins! It is hard to explain... I have never been there, but this is not necessary. My best wishes to all of you who have something to do with East Prussia!!
Translate! Скоро вам всем пиздец!
No need to be proud as you born and will die only your actions will define you. Among us only those people are good who are God fearing and obedient to his Lord.... No German no Arab or African are great only pious people are regarded as best.
@jusitke07 In this case, Kaliningrad - the Germans pay for such an attitude to the Slavic race.
We have to act fast until is not to late!!!.Old Königsberg is coming back!
Не дождётесь. Калининград!
To zależy od tego co się ma na myśli mówiąc Prusy, czy chodzi o dawne Prusy Wschodnie (obecne Mazury, Warmia i tzw. Okręg Kaliningradzki), czy państwo pruskie założone w 1701 roku)
Meine Oma hatt Königsberg geliebt
Ich als Enkelin liebe
KALININGRAD ❤
Changing name is still possible but it cannot be returned to Germany cos there are millions of local Russians who would not leave. They says it must remain Russian as long as they stay there.
When the two Germans were reunited in 1990, Germany renounced reclaim to whole of former East Prussia and other areas held by the Polish.
There are some Germans living in Kalingrad but they are friendly to Russians and respect to the city remain in Russia.
1 million ,,,
This is a territory taken by force, which has never been Russian or part of the Russian empire until 1945. Germany was forced to renounce any claims to old territories as a condition of German unification in 1990, but this does not justify Russian ownership of Kaliningrad. In 1945 over 14 million German civilians were kicked out of their homes at 3 hours notice and told to march west - hundreds of miles west. This included elderly people, women with babies, children, etc. They were allowed to pack only the bare minimum. Some 2 million died in this death march. This is something rarely talked about, but has been widely documented.
No more Konigsberg only Królewiec
Ничё будем арендовать Кёнингсберг еще лет сто за не выплаченные репарации России Германией , как победителю=) Тем более русские город после британских бомбёжек восстанавливали, так что лет через сто посмотрим=))))
Кто восстанавливал Узские только разрушать умеют и насрать,потом сидеть по уши в дерьме и на весь мир горлапанить,,мы сила''
Königsberg in East Prussia, Germany.
Восточная Германия то Лужицкий Край ,временно окупированный 😂
UnterGlenn, you’re such a poor boy. Kaliningrad (Königsberg) is today a part of Russia, not Poland. And Warsaw, Kraków - are these „German cities“? Warsaw was completely destroyed by the nazis at the end of WW II, but the Polish rebuilt it better than before. Maybe because they are Polish. :->
Btw, I am German, but I found your comment disgusting.
ehm...
królewiec, how u call it, isnt polish!
königsberg only was polish during the polish-lithuanian era and thats only because u occupied it and it still used to be in prussia
Nie da się objąć całej historii w paru wersach. Nie od dzisiaj szkoda mi tych autochtonów, którzy wyjechali. Proces ich zniemczania postępował jednak b.szybko przed r.1945 o czym Pan nie wspomina. Zwalanie winy za ich zniknięcie na Rosjan jest uproszczeniem stawiającym sprawę na głowie. Czy w ogóle twierdzi Pan, że nasz 45-letni eksperyment z komuną ta wina Rosjan?
Ist das alte Kameraden im Hintergrund?
Кёнигсберг умер в 1944 году. Жаль, это был красивый старинный город в восточной Пруссии, но восстанавливать исторические постройки считаю уже не нужно, прошло слишком много времени и момент упущен. Да и была другая культура, другие люди. И ещё, только в СССР фашистами были стёрты с земли много городов и сёл, убито более 20 миллионов человек, включая мирное население и за ЭТО надо было отвечать. Кстати, Кёнигсберг разбомбили совсем не Русские солдаты.
Хотя я согласен с тем, что немцы совершали ужасные зверства по отношению к жителям западной части СССР, оккупация северной части Восточной Пруссии кажется просто мелким актом мести, как и навязанная граница Одер-Ниссе. России нужно было не больше земли, а возможность эксплуатировать землю, которая у нее уже была.
А что делали несколько полков бомбардировщиков до 9 апреля? Что они сбрасывали на город? Посмотрите, сколько сил участвовало в штурме Кенигсберга у памятника 1200. Там перечислены все полки и дивизии, которые штурмовали город.
@Breuco --incredible, I'm Southamerican as well and even without East-Prussian forbearers, I've always been attracted by Köenigsberg and all the German cities east of the Elbe...
Solche Musik kam bei uns früher noch auf den Dorffesten. Lang nicht mehr gehört.
@DasSpektrum Dream on ! Wanna start another war ?
@Minabel60 Я скажу больше - пусть немцы считают, что Калининград - это расплата за их вторжение в Союз и за попытку сравнять Ленинград с землёй.
In the spring of 2008 in Kaliningrad has begun to restore on purpose designing of the town-planning program historical center Königsberg which has been destroyed during storm of a city and later it was not restored. Program end is planned by 2018.
@1993VNG You talking of expulsion of Germans, by the way entirely decided by superpowers. Why aren't you talking about expulsion of Poles by Germany in September-November 1939. There were 1,5 million of them and many deliberately murdered, all property STOLEN by Germany. My mother, being a child was one of them, my grandpa arrested without a reason, marked for execution. My grandma found way to Gestapo to pay high ransom in gold to save his life. So Germans were making money in a gunpoint !
That was a terrible crime and innocent people paid the price later
@Mikele33
One can hope that you have different plans for the present inhabitants of this town than your ancestors had for the Russians who are living there now. Would you like to take some other lands as well? The present national borders resulted from unprovoked Germany's aggression. It is heartbreaking to see films of personal tragedies caused by any war, but Germans wholeheartedly supported their Nazis, either because of stupidity or by being duped by propaganda and this is its result.
this will be a long long way....
what will happen to the people there...? and what is with the russian navy ther? mmh...and south ostpreussen is polish and they are not so happy about such dreams
waaa the great Königsberg, hauptschtadt der East Prussia becomes a third world city ! Owned ! Even in 1944 the city seems to be more pretty than nowadays...sad
germany is on the march!!!!
There's nothing left of Prussia. The city was completely destroyed in 2 WW. Russian built it so that it is a city of Kaliningrad.
@mikebavaria100 Ok. So, if that was so easy, give me back Berlin - old slavonic city, and that's it! :)))
95 % der Deutschen, wissen garnicht was Königsberg war , es interessiert keinen.
Why are you still part of Russia and not Germany ??
@bUfOs89 you wish.............................
@MrAsiansunite totally agree look at new russian and belorussian architecture it sucks.Their new apartaments still look's like in Soviet Russia.
Königsberg in Preußen.
Königsberg in Prussia.
Koningsbergen in Oost-Pruisen (jez. ol.)
Кёнигсберг - Навсегда!
Смерть большевикам! Калинин умер! Кёнигсберг жив!
Slusznie . Jezeli nazwy maja wrocic do historycznych oryginalow to konsekwentnie . Powinien byc rowniez Danzig , Ppzen , Stettin , Breslau , Katowitz itd .
no to Wrocław raczej nie bedzie jak breslau
@@kutyna4nogi141 raczej nie ma szans pod polskim zarzadem . Wroclaw to tylko ubogi krewny dawnego Breslau
@@marwi2091 Mi chodzi o samo nazewnictwo miasta . Załozyli go Czesi ,wiec Breslau to nie oryginalna nazwa . Co się tyczy zarzadzaniem to za czasów Kazimierza wlk. nie ostawał od miast niemieckich .
@@kutyna4nogi141 za to w latach 30tych Breslau zostalo przebudowane wg projektu wyroznionego nagroda swiatowa . A potem przyszli polacy ..
@@marwi2091 nie ,potem przyszła wojna i rok 45 . Polacy przyszli na .... zrujnowane .Co do przebudowy to zaczeło się nawet wcześniej . Takie Sępolno np. 1918 -jedyne osiedle tak zaprojektowane na całym świecie . Za niemca Wrocław przeżywał swój okres świetności .
We hope Koenisberg become new independent baltic state.
Надейтесь надейтесь, не в этой вашей жизни.
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@dziadzioniunio all right better Krolewiec as Kaliningrad, Russia ends 500km eastside of it.
A lesson to germans that racism is not way to go.
@hujson77 -100 тебе за комент.
@DasSpektrum -- Das Deutsche Reich existiert noch von dem juristischen Standpunkt?
Grüße an alle aus Königsberg, ich bin zu Besuch hier war gestern mit einem Spendentopf in Pillkallen und auch in Lasdehnen, man freute sich sehr.
Martin - früher daheim in Kermuschienen
@HeiligesReich2
Grüß aus Weiden i. d. OPf. , Bayern
Sie haben Graudenz, Osterode, Lyck, Insterburg und Gumbinnen vergessen!
Англичаны.
Klar, ein Lette spielt „Alte Kameraden“. Paßt. Da möchte wohl jemand gern noch mal HiWi sein.
@bUfOs89 Kaliningrad ist Russland!!!!!!
labi
@fanaber70 In Sarmatia, in northern Belarus and western Russia and northern Ukraine, around modern Smolensk. The Baltic peoples are connected to the Slavs, but the Balts including the West Baltic tribes of Prussians and Sudovians were more ancient than the Slavs. Slavs never settled in Königsberg. The only Slavic element about Königsberg and the Prussian, Gothic and Viking trade settlements is King Ottokar II of Bohemia, after whom the city was named by the Teutonic Order!
Lwów był założony przez Rusinów (Ukraina wtedy jeszcze nie istniała), dopiero Kaziu Wielki przyłączył go do Polski, potem polskie osadnictwo i kolonizacja. Podobnie było w tym samym czasie z Wrocławiem. On z kolei odpadł od Polski na rzecz Czech a tym samym później przeszedł pod panowanie Habsburgów. Do Prus należał dopiero od 18 wieku
Ишь чего захотеои!!! Да здравствует Калининград!!! Кёнигсбергу пришёл конец 9 апреля 1945 года! А если быть точными, то сами немцы войдя в Советский Союз с войной предрешили судьбу Кёнигсберга!!! Пусть этот город, город Калининград юудет вечным напоминанием тем, кто хотя бы подумает посягнуть на Россию!!!
muss ich das kommentieren?
IF YOU WANT TO COME with a mood such as to leave a comment then I'll tell you - HERE WILL NOT BE HAPPY
@NikolaiOrlov21
A superb and undeniably intelligent reply ... best of luck to you friend.
LETS GO STRIKE WHEN AND WHERE ???TELL ME I WILL GO
Pomorze Szczecińskie było bodaj pierwszym obszarem poza ziemiami Polan, które zostało przyłączone przez Piastów do tworzącego się państwa polskiego i przez nich chrystianizowane, ale faktyczne Pomorzanie z tych obszarów parli do niezależności i ostatecznie po paru próbach oderwali się od Polski w 11 wieku. Jedynie pd. część - Kraina (Wałcz, Czaplinek , Złotów) ostała się w Polsce
Partly You are right. Mostly they dissolved in german and polish environments
@paulmac38 never again ethnical cleansing!!!
@stranniiy Too many letters.
I'm not, maybe you?
@tetris136 Is this old Prussian language??
To prawda, wykończyli też resztkę rdzennych Pomorzan (Słowińców), znad jeziora Łebsko
И вас добьем)
ale Piastowie zdążyli założyć biskupstwa misyjne w Kamieniu i Kołobrzegu
@mikebavaria wait, wait for Królewiec!
@Cordiasz Do not forget Karaliaučius!
That is not true. Of course there were Nazi supporters in Germany, but people were not applauding and cheering when Warsaw was bombed. That is just a lie.
Polskij i Russkij narod iz odnogo kornja. Nam nado idti odnom szagom.
nie rozumiem po niemiecku, ale chyba się zgadzamy ?
@paulmac38 At least for that konigsberg,interburg area it would be better to be within poland or germany not russia .There is only poverty,mafia nothing else very dangerous place.I was ther 3 times
@BRIOCHIN22000 hallo briochin, königsberg wurde erst 1256 gegründet.
No more Kaliningrad indeed. Regards from Bulgaria.
@wladys678 Slavic population resides in Poland for a minimum of FIVE thousand years. It has been proven by evidence of linguistic nature, ancient chronicle and recently by research of male chromosome Y. Harvard University Peter Underhill map shows it, same Harvard studies of Anatoly Klyosov and I.Rozansky.
This regards also to lands of what is now Germany, populated by Slavs in almost entire area, some by Celts.
Slavs were sedentary agricultural peoples, whereas Germanic tribes nomads.
Well the former East Prussia of Germany or nowadays Poland is located in former Baltic Prussian lands(Baltic Prussians are related to Lituanians,Latvians,Curonians).And Poland togerther with Teutonic knights were involved in Crusade against Baltic Prussians.So those lands belongs to Balts.
@@bingo5767 Lithuanians, Latvians and Prussians are called Baltoslavs and are subbranch of of Slavic languages, their kinship to Slavic branch is undeniable.
Calling Poland responsible for crusades against Prussians is gross simplification. First, Poland at time 1138-1320 underwent a period of fragmentation lasting 182 years and the central power was either weak or nonexisting. Konrad of Mazovia, who in 1226 brought Teutonic Order to help him repel persistent plunder of Mazovia by Prussians, soon fell into open conflict with the Teutonic Order in 1234. This conflict never ended and was taken over by Poland reunited in 1320. Though reunification in 1320 was limited to only two provinces out of original five provinces that were subject to will of Bolesław IIIrd who died in 1138, these were Małopolska, Wielkopolska, Mazowsze, Pomorze and Śląsk, only the first two reunited in 1320. In 1331 Poland, won a major battle against the Order at Płowce. Mazovia did not reunite with Poland until 1529, but usually acted in alliance. The protruding war Poland vs whole Western Europe led by the Teutonic Order trying to invade, subjugate and colonize Lithuania and Ruś continued and entered a stage of open war when Henry Lancaster of England, future king, allied with the Order invaded Lithuania 1390-1394 but failed in bloody battles that took a tall of 40 thousand invaders. Then Poland won a major Battle of Grunwald 1410. Finally all Prussia became part of Kingdom of Poland in 1466,, as result of a 13-year war against Teutonic Order, but also at the request of people of Prussia. Poland protected the Prussian language so books could be published in this language in XVI century. Protestantisation of Prussia was a defeat for Prussian language that finally got extinguished by German in XVII century, but also many Prussians got mixed with Poles from neighbouring Mazovia and created Mazurian and Warmian dialects spoken by nearly a million inhabitants of Prussia.
@@wladys678 Gross simplification is this "Balto-Slavic" lunacy. Latvians and Lithuanians are classified as Eastern Balts, and Prussians as Western Balts.
Most of the slight similarities are result of more recent imperialism on the part of Poland, and Russia.
But, Slavs at-least partly descend from a hybrid culture of Dniepr Balts, and Western Schythians, who had subjugated the latter.
However, this relation does not enable you to make any sort of claims.
Slavs did inhabited a small part of modern-day Southeastern Poland before the migration period, but not much more than that. There are theories claiming that Slavs have been in Central Europe for at least five centuries as you claim, but most historians dismiss them as work of fiction, made up in the heads of insecure Slav nationalists.
Hande hoch! schnell schell... trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpdschhhhh
@CubanodePlacetas
Und Vladivostock!
Кенигсберг всегда и всегда будет Калининграде!
Никто не может изменить этот кусочек правды!
россия навсегда!
@HHHPPP8
Russkije Braty i Susjedy
Spasibo Vam za osvobozdenije Polszy w 45 godu
i za otpravleije krizakov ze staroj slavjanskoj zemlji
Budte zdorov
Gorjaczij privjet iz Polszy !!!
Хрен ь тебе а не КАРАЛЯВИЧУС
It is Koenigsberg, not Kaliningrad!
It is German, not Russian!
The worldleaders are too scared to say anything about it against Russia >:(
@NikolaiOrlov21
Its about as Russian as Mexico city is Irish ....
@cleckheatoncentral --the Russians offered it back to Germany in 1991/92 but the German gov't rejected the proposal....
Russian? No... You missed a P, Königsberg is Prussian! :)
@1993VNG Remember, the new border btw Poland and Germany was established by superpowers:USA,England,USSR without consulting a single Pole. Also remember, Poland in 1945 lost more lands on east than gained on west incl.vital cultural Polish centers. Remeber, it was Germany to launch WW2 with its unprecedeted murdering methods, anyone who does that takes a risk of loss in case of defeat. These lands were mostly new to Germany-since 1870.
You make a mistake. Königsberg was founded by the Teutonic order in 1255. East Prussia was German for many centuries, no since 1870. As for your remarks about Poland, I fully concur!
You mean v.e. Szczecin (Stettin), but many of these cities was establish on stolen Polish territories
You mean Stettin which was part of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations since 1149 and then the German Empire until 1947. The Polish ethically cleansed all of the inhabitants of Pomerania 1945-1947.
@bUfOs89 Unfortunately , the Russians living there don't see it that way.
Too bad for them. Let them vacate to Bachmut, newly conquered Russia.
@stranniiy Бред полный.
POLAND!
@Krautsalatlecker Nein, das ist pRussia!!! Vielen dank
Хотелки какие смешные.
Как хорошо что город навсегда русский и наша родина в четвертом поколении. Если немцы повылазят то накажем по привычке
Ty luchshe poprashchaysia s semiey - poviestku uzhe tebe nesut, vielikoruZZ!
😱💀😱💀😱
@paulmac38 At least for the area it would be better be withing poland or germany .There is only poverty,mafia nothing else very dangerous place.I was ther 3 times
@1993VNG These lands are called historical Polish lands, although its history is diferent for each region. Eg.Silesia was conquered in a war by Prussia in 1743 and eversince underwent brutal germanisation germanisation. Gdansk was conquered by Prussia in January 1793 after a month long siege in which its inhabitants aided the Polish crew, only the treason of Russia enabled Prussian army to enter the city. Prussia was initiated a conspiracy w.Austria&Russia to erase Polish state 1772-95.
To w takim razie czy 60 mln zamordowanych mieszkańców Rosji (w tym chyba 80% etnicznych Rosjan) w latach 1917-1955 to wina Rosjan czy komuny ?
@tupakki yes true but then it all depends on the majority for example The Falklands are on the doorstep of Argantina but the population is 99.9% British decent and these islands are British like Koninsberg is German.
But if the people of Koninsberg where to cause a big enough stir then Russia whould have no choice but to relent the Soviet Bear is gone she may be stronge but Russia is but a Cub.
Compeared to the USSR ..
@tupakki If you understand where I am going with this it is not Chynechna or South Ossetia this is Koninsberg if confronted on a large scale Russia whould have to relent.
As Koninsberg whould have the backing of NATO UN and the EU
Дзенькую! ))))
Правильно! На его месте сейчас- Калининград!
I really don't think Germany wants this territory back. It makes no geographical or geopolitical sense for Germany to have it back. The best thing would be to give it to Poland, and perhaps Poland could then give Stettin back to Germany, which makes more sense.
Кьонігсберг це Німеччина !
Козин цэ дубина..👎
@@Жека-е4л4й Це ти маєш на увазі себе ?
А Калининград, это Россия.
Это верно! )))
Better than the rat’s nest of the Soviet era
nein! alles welt gebiet is polnisch gebiet!!!!! gruß aus polnisch Washington D.C.
I'm ukrainian and I think that Königsberg muss deutsch sein !!!